I am waiting on the BVA Board to give me a answer to my claim and I an sure I know the answer already. What can a vet do to get the right help?

And this is only the very smallest tip of the iceberg!

We have 535 over paid, pompous jerks in Congress who for the most part can talk the talk, but sure as hell can’t walk the walk! They may go into office broke as all hell, but they sure as hell come out richer than God himself with one hell of a retirement plan!

If we rely on the Veteran Service Organizations to stand up for Veterans, think again! They never will unless they’re PAID to!

I really don’t think it was veterans outrage that the VFW and American Legion stepped up to the plate to stop the billing private insurance carriers like President Obama wanted, I think it was insurance lobbyists who PAID all the VSO’s to step up!

So tell me who was looking out for whom? Self interests of the VSO’s?

I know it’s hard to accept for most, and most will blast my ass right off the earth for having said this, but next time you can attend a national meeting, go ahead, ask them WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR ME TODAY? That’s IF you ever get a straight answer from them.

Then ask them and request they prove to you beyond a doubt how much they collected and how much they actually GAVE to veterans in need! Not the local posts, I mean the national commanders!

If veterans really want to see change, then you will have to take responsibility and step up to the plate again, this time not for your country, but for yourself, your spouse, your children, be pro-active and speak out, make your voice heard!

I founded a group called Veterans-For-Change, we speak loud and clear every month to all 535 members of Congress, so if you have the 30-60 minutes a month to work from your computer to be more involved, please contact me at: jdavis90813@hotmail.com!

Together WE CAN WIN!

Please forward this for take-action

The VA needs to be overhauled and reorganized…there is no other way to logically go about it. Those people even remotely responsible for any of these acts must be punished up to the maximum allowable punishment available to them IAW applicable laws and guidelines.

The VA must allow Veteran’s to re-initiate their claims all over again regardless of their age and be afforded due-process in a fair and consistent manner. All those still living that are due benefits should be paid accordingly with intrest accrued for any monies due to them.

This can never be “righted” fully….but the VA has got to step up and do the right thing for once….the audacity and sheer negligence and malice shown to veterans disgusts me almost to a homicidal rage against these people responsible. I wonder how many of these people ever served on Active Duty, let alone ever served during a conflict…that I’d like to know honestly. I bet most of them have never left the continental US.

I sincerely hope that the Grand Jury does get involved in this, and that an independent inspection agency getst he reigns to the VA records to prosecute these miserable excuses for humans and charges them accordingly….many should be fined and imprisoned and warrant Felonies. While this will never undo the wrong’s, maybe they will feel just a bit of the anguish, disgust, and anger that we have felt and continue to feel. Abraham Lincoln would puke if he knew what the VA has turned into and evolved from its inception.

He was born in 1841 and died in 1925.  My father was five when he died.  He told me once while he was alive that he barely remembers this old guy who used to wear a Union kepi on his head all the time.  He said that he was a mean old bastard that would hit anyone with one of his cane if they got too close to his legs.  All he did was drink and complain about how the War Department was screwing him over his pension.  He literally could not talk about anything else.

When  I was declared totally disabled I looked at the VSO and said, "This money is for Old Tom Barnes and me.  He finally got his money!".  He had no idea what I was talking about.

Now you do.

Requests for recognition as veterans of the US Merchant Marine during WW II have been denied repeatedly denied by the NMC because records are not available that show service during the timeframe required. There were some 10,000 mariners that served on seagoing barges. Five members of my family were among them. These seamen have all been left behind, denied and forgotten.
Two specific actions taken by the USCG and the Maritime Administration have resulted in the National Maritime Center (NMC) denying these seamen their well earned benefits as US Veterans.
(1) On 20 March, 1944, the Commandant, USCG issued orders to masters of tugs, towboats and seagoing barges relieving them of the responsibility of submitting shipping and discharge forms (718A) to seamen shipped,
(2) USCG Reference Information Paper #77, page 3 states, “After WWII the deck and engine logbooks of vessels operated by the WSA were turned over to that agency (Maritime Administration) by the ship owners and were destroyed during the 1970s” The NMC repeatedly denies applicants eligibility because records do not exists.

USCG Reference Information Paper #77 of April, 1992, Page 1 indicates acceptable forms of documentation are: (a) Certificate of discharge (Form 718A); (b) Continuous Discharge Books, (Deck log books) and (c) Company letters showing vessel names and dates. These old wooden hulled barges were obsolete when they were called back into services in WW II and have long since been replaced by larger and more modern self propelled vessels, placing both the companies and their records lost to history.

These two actions by government agencies have compromised the efforts of these 10,000 or so seamen from obtaining their proper recognition and benefits while serving on those seagoing barges. They have removed items (1) & (2) as acceptable forms of eligibility. The loss of the companies and their records removes the only other contention, making the effort for recognition almost useless. Alternate methods are required if we are to recognize these honorable seamen. This nation cannot stand by and allow this travesty to continue. WW II Veterans are dying at the rate of 850 per day and there is precious time left to assist those that remain. Action must be swift to assist those left to enjoy their recognition. We have recognized the Filipino veteran; surely we can do the same for our own. Costs have already been set aside under P.L. 95-202 & 105-368 making this administrative legislation only.
Efforts to gain assistance from the chartered VSOs brought forth very limited response; as if they have forgotten their purpose. These barge people served in harm’s way on the Atlantic Coast making thousands of trips in waters continuously patrolled by the savage German wolf pack submarines that were making daily sinking’s of our merchant ships. Their speed of 4 knots and without armed protection, made them sitting ducks just waiting to be the next victim. We owe them dearly. We have talked the talk. Now let’s walk the walk. Please offer this to congress and square our debt to them. With the mortality rate as high as it is, we can hardly wait any longer. Please notify me of your actions.
Very Respectfully
J. D. Horton
104 Riverview Ave, Camden, NC 27921.
PROPOSAL

Committee: ____________________ Principal Author: ___________________________

Bill No: __________ Delegation: _______________________________

Title: Alternative Methods of Recognition for Veteran Status to Merchant Marine Seamen of WW II
Be It Enacted by the one hundred & eleventh Congress of the United States
1. Preamble: Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of
2. America in congress assembled; Public Law 95-202 & 105-368 provided veteran status for members
3. of the U.S Merchant Marine who served during WW II between 07 Dec, 1941 and 31 Dec, 1946 and
4. who were able to prove their service. Various actions by governmental personnel have destroyed or
5. caused these documents to be unavailable. These actions prohibit merchant marine veterans of
6. WW II from receiving the recognition and benefits of veteran’s status provided by these laws.
7. Alternative methods to prove service are required, as just compensation, for records lost by
8. government actions.

9. SECTION 1: Records held by the Social Security Administration that denote dates, wages earned and
10. companies employed shall be utilized when USCG forms 718 (any date) or other official data such
11. as ship’s logbook, etc, are not available.

12. SECTION 2: Validated testimony from the veteran or the primary next of kin as to employment shall 13. be allowed to determine eligibility; and

14. SECTION 3: Other official documentation offered by the veteran, shall constitute replacement of
15. records that were destroyed or from other actions causing the required records to be unavailable
16. that were committed by those responsible for the control and maintenance of veteran records.

17. SECTION 4: For the timeframe between 07 December, 1941 and 31 December, 1946, masters of
18. seagoing vessels shall be recognized as agents of the United States authorized to document
19. crew members as it applies to the shipping and discharge of seaman for purposes of employment.

20. SECTION 5: These replacements records shall satisfy all requirements for eligibility of service during
21. the required timeframe 07 December, 1941 and 31 December, 1946.

22. SECTION 6: This bill will go into effect 91 days after passage.

Like countless civilians(w/ fake DD214..) & regular veterans being contacted to file claims which is doctored inside, etc…

I am also curious what VARO has the most approved claims?

How VA examiners/employee an be investigated for un-explained wealth?

The new VA secretary should look into this..

WHEN Denied form or HARMED IN PER DIEM PROGRAm FRom disablity viaoltions its covered up not cleaned up and MANY hospital msws phd and mds say sad spo sad , but NOT MY JOB.
VA patient reps are limited and quality controllers also lower in “rank” than those creating the problems are not authorized to demand repair of bad quality.

homeless mulit disabled in agaony, was denied over and over care then repair finally a PT APPOINTMENT i was offered -pt by zerox- DO IT yourself and worse to be done while often starving and living in the back seat of a car?

So many people out of work could and would do better, those at VA with “not my job syndrome”
NEED to not have the job.

“What chance do veterans do have when foreign dictators with gold, diamonds or oil, can buy more influence in our own government than our own heroes long disenfranchised by service organizations, some of which are controlled by entrenched DC bureaucrats or political extremists?”

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OUR ONLY CHANCE “CIVIL WAR” WITH EXTREME PREGIDOUS!
THIS IS THE ANSWER…

Again provided were over 100 VA “certified” copies of the veteran’s still in-hand proof of the Menieres disease, 100% unemployability awards and the Project 7210 consequences. In reference to these award resulting resubmissions, a VA 10/16/08 letter noted “…because of insufficient or inaccurate information we cannot identify the proper record.” Part of the evidence was of the VA Boston Regional Office Rating Board’s 7/9/57 clear and unmistakable error (CUE) of their awarded hearing loss only. This is proven by their 4/26/57 examining physician’s 4/3/58 submission of the before the 7/9/57 Board CUE evidence that resulted in the still ignored USAF SURGEON’S 6/25/58, “PERMANENTLY MEDICALLY DISQUALIFIED FOR MILITARY SERVICE”! A yet again resubmitted and to date VA refused to address error!

The 130 page July 1956 USAF Project 7210 Technical Report (TR) 54-401 records the noise levels for 27 versions of 10 jet-engines in 1952 to 1956 U. S. Military service; see “contrails.iit.edu”, under its “search” use “TR 54-401″. The flight line overall “very high noise levels” range from 135 dB, at a 6,144 sound pressure multiple (X), to 177 dB (@ 815,583 X)! This with this veteran’s in-hand documentation could help the 77, e.g., “Had some trouble with hearing while working on warm-up crew for F-86 D with very high noise levels.” The physician’s 29 Jan. 54 USAF Cadet Wing Commander washout statement. All flight line personnel at Tyndall AFB, Panama City, FLA. were unprotected and subjected to the “very high noise levels”. All worked well within a 50 feet radius and were injured in direct disobedience of the AFR 160-3 required protection. For F-86D personnel it is the then known certain J47-GE-1 jet-engine injury, i.e., TR pages 68-75, “Test Group 10, Date of the Tests: 1952, Test Numbers 62-64″. This is an at 50 feet 158 dB noise level with an 87,381 X. Fifteen (15) of the 77 were repeatedly exposed to a “warm-up crew” 176 dB level of over 699,051 X vs. the AFR 160-3, 95 dB at 59 X! The AMA Family Medical Guide 3d edition, page 365 is the sound pressure multiple (X) source. Its 60 dB “Normal conversation” is the base line for the calculated “…sound pressure doubles with an increase of 6 decibels” 87,381 X to 699,051 X.

The question is not if these 77 unprotected individuals were injured but how badly!
AIR FORCE SERIAL NUMBERS (AFSN) ARE AVAILABLE FOR EACH OF THE LISTED 77 OTHER USAF PERSONNEL.
1952 – 1956 JET AIRCRAFT MECHANICS, AFSC 43131H AND 43151C.
NO. NAME. NO. NAME.
1. APPLEYARD, WILLIAM L. 40. HOWARD, ROY W.
2. BATES, JOE H. 41. HOWARTH, WALLACE R.
3. BAVIS, HARRY G. 42. HURLEY, DAVID W.
4. BERRY, DENNIE 43. IENSE, WILLIAM A.
5. BERSTRON, ELLERY D. 44. IRVIN, JAMES E.
6. BERTRAND, ROBERT E. 45. JANDRON, PAUL J.
7. BONASERA, JOSEPH E. 46. JONES, GLEN R.
8. BONE, J. E. 47. JONES JR, BOBBY
9. BRITTAIN, THOMAS W. 48. JUNG, WESLEY E.
10. BUMPUS, JOE E. 49. JUSTICE, HERMAN M.
11. CADRETTE, EUCLID J. 50. KEAN, RONALD B.
12. CARNEY, JOHN F. 51. KELLY, HAROLD R.
13. CLARK JR, CHESTER H. 52. KELLY JR, GERALD L.
14. CODORI, JOSEPH B. 53. LARKOWSKI, GERALD G.
15. COUNCIL JR, JAMES I. 54. LEWIS JR, FRANKLIN
16. CRISWELL, WILLIAM G. 55. LOCKIEY, REGINAID E.
17. DONALDSON, WILLIAM A. 56. LOGSDON, ELMO W.
18. DUESLER, JOHN H. 57. LONG, EARL T.
19. DUNBAR, LEROY W. 58. LOVE, JERRY K.
20. EWTON, JAMES E. 59. LYCAN, EDWARD S.
21. FLENING, JACK E. 60. MORGAN, WARNER L.
22. FRITZ, JOHN A. C. 61. MULLINS, JIMMY A.
23. GILAM, JAT T. 62. MURPHEY, TALMADGE G.
24. GOMES JR, MANUEL F. 63. MURRAY, WILLIE E.
25. GONES, LEAMON 64. MUSGRAVE PAUL I.
26. GORE, WILLIAM R. 65. OGBORN, GLENN
27. GREEN, LEVI D. 66. OTTLEY, FRANKLIN D.
28. GUILA, MIKE J. 67. RATHJEN. CHARLES
29. GUNSLAUS, DAVID W. 68. REID, BILLY G.
30. HANDLIN, JAMES F. 69. RICHARDSON, JAMES W.
31. HARDING, JERRY L. 70. SANDELL, PHILLIP R.
32. HARTER, JOHN E. 71. SEXTON, FRED B.
33. HENDON, JAMES 72. SHUMATE, RICHARD W.
34. HENDON, JAMES H. 73. VOLLENTINE, DONALD R.
35. HIGNUTT, JESSE L. 74. WALLER, GLENN R.
36. HILL, RAY S. 75. WHITE, SAMUEL L.
37. HINSON, BERT L. 76. WOOD, LEONARD F.
38. HIRSH, DONALD H. 77. ZIEGLER, CARL P.
39. HODGE, JAMES F.

It takes at least 60% rating to qualify for IU.

If you qualify, download the form and send it in immediately.

If your rating is under 60%, please go to:

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She may be able to help.

Great comment.

Thanks

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