Comments on: GORDON DUFF: GOP HYPOCRITE RANDALL TERRY NOT ARRESTED FOR MURDER http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/06/01/gop-hypocrite-randall-terry-not-arrested-for-murder/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=gop-hypocrite-randall-terry-not-arrested-for-murder Military Veterans and Foreign Affairs Journal - VA - Veterans Administration Sun, 12 Feb 2012 04:03:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Daniel http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/06/01/gop-hypocrite-randall-terry-not-arrested-for-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-16045 Daniel Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:01:29 +0000 http://127.0.0.1/?p=7039#comment-16045 You're directing your conversation to someone that worked at the WLA VA for 5 years in Human Resources and I was illegally terminated for writing the Sec. of Veterans Affairs about the Veterans discrimination that was conducted in their hiring processes. As a result they had to offer every position in the Hospital to a Veteran if he was qualified. But I was singled out as a trouble-maker and dismissed for printing a personnel screen of a person that they gave an illegal Veterans Readjustment Act appointment that wasn't eligible for it. The law requires that in order to be eligible you must either 30% disabled or be in the service in the last 10 years. This guy was 60 and served during the Viet Nam war. NOT in Viet Nam. But he was one of their cronies so he went from a GS 5 in 1998 to a GS 11 in 2001. Most of the other Veterans coming in for jobs had to start as a janitor in order to use their Veterans Preference. How does this apply to the subject matter. Secretary Principi and his sucessor, knew these kinds of things were going on and did nothing. As a result of bushes instructions. In every VA in the nation. Corruption has been ignored but there are still Veterans out there that defend bush that ultimately insults my intelligence and every Vet that ever put on a Uniform. You’re directing your conversation to someone that worked at the WLA VA for 5 years in Human Resources and I was illegally terminated for writing the Sec. of Veterans Affairs about the Veterans discrimination that was conducted in their hiring processes. As a result they had to offer every position in the Hospital to a Veteran if he was qualified. But I was singled out as a trouble-maker and dismissed for printing a personnel screen of a person that they gave an illegal Veterans Readjustment Act appointment that wasn’t eligible for it. The law requires that in order to be eligible you must either 30% disabled or be in the service in the last 10 years. This guy was 60 and served during the Viet Nam war. NOT in Viet Nam. But he was one of their cronies so he went from a GS 5 in 1998 to a GS 11 in 2001. Most of the other Veterans coming in for jobs had to start as a janitor in order to use their Veterans Preference. How does this apply to the subject matter. Secretary Principi and his sucessor, knew these kinds of things were going on and did nothing. As a result of bushes instructions. In every VA in the nation. Corruption has been ignored but there are still Veterans out there that defend bush that ultimately insults my intelligence and every Vet that ever put on a Uniform.

]]> By: The Blue Max http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/06/01/gop-hypocrite-randall-terry-not-arrested-for-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-15883 The Blue Max Tue, 02 Jun 2009 21:52:47 +0000 http://127.0.0.1/?p=7039#comment-15883 Dear Daniel: You are really confused. YOu spend your time attacking things in my response that are not there. So I bring this to your attention. So you go right on attacking things that are not there. Ergo, your need to attack overwhelms your Reasoning ability. Just slow down and actually read what is written. Go back to the top and please note how quickly the responses veer away from the substance of the article and where that occurred. As son as Duff introduced "phony Christian values," he was looking for a fight and he got it. But note who started it and who began the name calling. Joe 6 Pack tells us exactly what we all know: It is a site filled with hate. I didn't bring it. It was here long before I aever heard about the site (about 3 months ago). (Engry Code: 3C17ZC) Dear Daniel: You are really confused. YOu spend your time attacking things in my response that are not there. So I bring this to your attention. So you go right on attacking things that are not there. Ergo, your need to attack overwhelms your Reasoning ability. Just slow down
and actually read what is written. Go back to the top and please note how quickly the responses veer away from the substance of the article and where that occurred. As son as Duff introduced “phony Christian values,” he was looking for a fight and he got it. But note who started it and who began the name calling. Joe 6 Pack tells us exactly what we all know: It is a site filled with hate. I didn’t bring it. It was here long before I aever heard about the site (about 3 months ago).

(Engry Code: 3C17ZC)

]]> By: Daniel http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/06/01/gop-hypocrite-randall-terry-not-arrested-for-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-15836 Daniel Tue, 02 Jun 2009 14:54:18 +0000 http://127.0.0.1/?p=7039#comment-15836 I can see that there are few of us that are all up in the kool-aid and don't know the flavor. Where we are all having problems is that most of you menial minded miscreants don't understand that if you are a Veteran, then you are a special minority. The various political parties have pumped your head with 'you are one of us' with one hand and blown sunshine up your butt, with the other as though you don't belong on the same side of the fence with the rest of the Veterans and the issues that affect all of us. BM take your ball and run home like that will help anything, and have a BM so you can get some of that BS out of your system. The original article is about saving Veterans lives and doing something that a lot of them are suffering from. DUH Did the doomsday squad miss that? Not to mention ignoring the fairness or hipocritical doctrines that some of you grasp and adhere to without understanding one basic fact about all Veterans. Whatever maladies any of us might have, if you don't suffer from it, have you ever considered, "Except for the grace of God, there goes me. All of us need to understand that. Have you ever noticed that the VA will only deal with single claims instead of all of us that have the same problems? Do you know why? So they can divide and conquer and not pay all of us. Just who they want to. Wake up and think Gentlemen. I can see that there are few of us that are all up in the kool-aid and don’t know the flavor. Where we are all having problems is that most of you menial minded miscreants don’t understand that if you are a Veteran, then you are a special minority. The various political parties have pumped your head with ‘you are one of us’ with one hand and blown sunshine up your butt, with the other as though you don’t belong on the same side of the fence with the rest of the Veterans and the issues that affect all of us. BM take your ball and run home like that will help anything, and have a BM so you can get some of that BS out of your system. The original article is about saving Veterans lives and doing something that a lot of them are suffering from. DUH Did the doomsday squad miss that? Not to mention ignoring the fairness or hipocritical doctrines that some of you grasp and adhere to without understanding one basic fact about all Veterans. Whatever maladies any of us might have, if you don’t suffer from it, have you ever considered, “Except for the grace of God, there goes me. All of us need to understand that. Have you ever noticed that the VA will only deal with single claims instead of all of us that have the same problems? Do you know why? So they can divide and conquer and not pay all of us. Just who they want to. Wake up and think Gentlemen.

]]> By: Joe 6 Pack http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/06/01/gop-hypocrite-randall-terry-not-arrested-for-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-15824 Joe 6 Pack Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:49:07 +0000 http://127.0.0.1/?p=7039#comment-15824 I'm afraid it's time to unsubscribe. This newsletter is filled with hatred, unsubstantiated "facts", and a fundamental misunderstanding of the Constitution of the US. I happen to know a little about the "facts" of this article and they are dead wrong. It's not my opinion, it's what I do for a living and know about. I was hoping to be able to have some serious dialogue with those who have different ideology than me, but that's impossible. When dealing with Liberals, there is no respect for conservative principles. If you disagree, you're attacked. If you challenge a fact, you're an idiot. Well, I will continue to search for an honest liberal to debate. So far, I've only met one. A gay neighbor. He and I sit out front, have a beer and debate often. It is definately a learning experience for both of us. I was hoping to have a little of that here, but you guys obviously aren't capable of having an individual thought. Go on hating that which you do not undertand. Attack that which you disagree with. Keep your mind closed. I am done with this newsletter. I’m afraid it’s time to unsubscribe. This newsletter is filled with hatred, unsubstantiated “facts”, and a fundamental misunderstanding of the Constitution of the US. I happen to know a little about the “facts” of this article and they are dead wrong. It’s not my opinion, it’s what I do for a living and know about. I was hoping to be able to have some serious dialogue with those who have different ideology than me, but that’s impossible. When dealing with Liberals, there is no respect for conservative principles. If you disagree, you’re attacked. If you challenge a fact, you’re an idiot.

Well, I will continue to search for an honest liberal to debate. So far, I’ve only met one. A gay neighbor. He and I sit out front, have a beer and debate often. It is definately a learning experience for both of us. I was hoping to have a little of that here, but you guys obviously aren’t capable of having an individual thought.

Go on hating that which you do not undertand. Attack that which you disagree with. Keep your mind closed.

I am done with this newsletter.

]]> By: The Blue Max http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/06/01/gop-hypocrite-randall-terry-not-arrested-for-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-15765 The Blue Max Tue, 02 Jun 2009 01:19:16 +0000 http://127.0.0.1/?p=7039#comment-15765 Dear Daniel: In your zeal to jump into the lion's den and slay the little bastard, youi forgot to read my message with an open eye (one would be enough). Where does it say that I am defending Bush, Cheney, or anybody else that you hate? I'm an independent. Obama is not my cup of tea because I believe he is in the process of destroying Capitalism. AS Capitalism goes, so goes the Nation. Like it or not. By the time he's done, there will be damn little left for Veteran. My problem with Daffy Duff and his "posse" is that they just spew hate all over the place. Your message is in harmony with that level. Read it slowly aloud and then report back that it's a message of Love thy Neighbor. As for solutions, it was just a week or so ago that some veterans out in California turned to Daffy for help (Sepulveda Med Ctr and West L.A. Med Ctr). He asked a couple of questions and THEN HE DISAPPEARED. It is one thing to interview somebody at the UN. It is quite another thing to stand up and be counted when Vets turn to you for help. The Enter Code is EE1DBZ and I have typed it in correctly. Daffy blocked it. The new code that I just typed in is 3AE7F8 Dear Daniel: In your zeal to jump into the lion’s den and slay the little
bastard, youi forgot to read my message with an open eye (one would be enough). Where does it say that I am defending Bush, Cheney, or anybody else that you hate? I’m an independent. Obama is not my cup of tea because I believe he is in the process of destroying Capitalism.
AS Capitalism goes, so goes the Nation. Like it or not. By the time he’s done, there will be damn little left for Veteran. My problem with Daffy Duff and his “posse” is that they just spew hate all over the place. Your message is in harmony with that level. Read it slowly aloud and then report back that it’s a message of Love thy Neighbor. As for solutions,
it was just a week or so ago that some veterans out in California turned to Daffy for help (Sepulveda Med Ctr and West L.A. Med Ctr). He asked a couple of questions and THEN HE DISAPPEARED. It is one thing to interview somebody at the UN. It is quite another thing to stand up and be counted when Vets turn to you for help. The Enter Code is EE1DBZ
and I have typed it in correctly. Daffy blocked it. The new code that I
just typed in is 3AE7F8

]]> By: Daniel http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/06/01/gop-hypocrite-randall-terry-not-arrested-for-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-15758 Daniel Tue, 02 Jun 2009 00:20:18 +0000 http://127.0.0.1/?p=7039#comment-15758 You doomsday conservative bush-ass kissin super-suckers get on my last nerve. You complain about somebody bringing to light the fact that there are solutions to the maladies that a lot of veterans have and don't have a solution yourself, but you want to critisize someone that does. Why don't you narrow-minded miscreants fade away like most of the other republicans have done and let something good for veterans happen. As a matter of fact if you don't have something positive to bring to the table, then keep eating scraps off the floor. The Government should be accountable to all of us and you punks want to act like it is a sin to complain about the fact that the corruption that bush and his cronies brought to the table is ok. It's not. They have cost this Nation thousands of lives just to make money for themselves and their cronies. Cheney finally admitted today that he knows and they knew that Sadaam didn't have a damn thing to do with 9/11 and put it on the CIA s Tenet as the person that fed them the information. Which is a blatant lie. Just like you asses that keep lying to yourselves about how good bush and his buddies were for the country. They killed thousands of people that didn't need to die and nobody is holding them accountable. Now if your mentality can't grasp that, maybe you should question your momma to see if she is really your sister and the retardation is taking hold on your mind. Either way shut the phuck up unless you have something to say that will help Vets. You doomsday conservative bush-ass kissin super-suckers get on my last nerve. You complain about somebody bringing to light the fact that there are solutions to the maladies that a lot of veterans have and don’t have a solution yourself, but you want to critisize someone that does. Why don’t you narrow-minded miscreants fade away like most of the other republicans have done and let something good for veterans happen. As a matter of fact if you don’t have something positive to bring to the table, then keep eating scraps off the floor. The Government should be accountable to all of us and you punks want to act like it is a sin to complain about the fact that the corruption that bush and his cronies brought to the table is ok. It’s not. They have cost this Nation thousands of lives just to make money for themselves and their cronies. Cheney finally admitted today that he knows and they knew that Sadaam didn’t have a damn thing to do with 9/11 and put it on the CIA s Tenet as the person that fed them the information. Which is a blatant lie. Just like you asses that keep lying to yourselves about how good bush and his buddies were for the country. They killed thousands of people that didn’t need to die and nobody is holding them accountable. Now if your mentality can’t grasp that, maybe you should question your momma to see if she is really your sister and the retardation is taking hold on your mind. Either way shut the phuck up unless you have something to say that will help Vets.

]]> By: The Blue Max http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/06/01/gop-hypocrite-randall-terry-not-arrested-for-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-15726 The Blue Max Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:31:37 +0000 http://127.0.0.1/?p=7039#comment-15726 Hey, Joe: Here's the picture. People like Daffy Duff, Mommy Barnes and The Turd Man (Byron Skinner) are so filled with SELF-LOATHING that it spills out willy-nilly in all directions. That's really the bottom line: Self-hatred rules their lives, ruels their families, rules their businesses, rules everything they do or say. So What would Jesus Do? He wuld forgive them. But then I'm not Jesus. I think they are a drag on all that is good in this Nation and they wail and wail and wail that we are not yet the Socialist or Communist society they obviously admire. And they sure as hell don't do a lot to help Veterans with all their bitching. I've siad it before: These are the guys whose loyalty to their fellow troopers and veterans ends with a DD-214 and an Honorable Discharge. The Code below is 25A228 and I've typed it in correctly. Hey, Joe: Here’s the picture. People like Daffy Duff, Mommy Barnes and The Turd Man (Byron Skinner) are so filled with SELF-LOATHING that it spills out willy-nilly in all directions. That’s really the bottom line:
Self-hatred rules their lives, ruels their families, rules their businesses, rules everything they do or say. So What would Jesus Do? He wuld forgive them. But then I’m not Jesus. I think they are a drag on all that is good in this Nation and they wail and wail and wail that we are not yet the Socialist or Communist society they obviously admire. And they sure as hell don’t do a lot to help Veterans with all their bitching. I’ve siad it before: These are the guys whose loyalty to their fellow troopers and veterans ends with a DD-214 and an Honorable Discharge.

The Code below is 25A228 and I’ve typed it in correctly.

]]> By: Tom Barnes http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/06/01/gop-hypocrite-randall-terry-not-arrested-for-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-15725 Tom Barnes Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:27:50 +0000 http://127.0.0.1/?p=7039#comment-15725 <p>Contact me privately.</p><p>My email is fine.</p><p>You and I have a lot of discusion to do.  You are very , very sadly misinformed as to the realities here.</p><p>I await your email.</p><p> </p><p>Tom Barnes</p> Contact me privately.

My email is fine.

You and I have a lot of discusion to do.  You are very , very sadly misinformed as to the realities here.

I await your email.

 

Tom Barnes

]]> By: Joe 6 Pack http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/06/01/gop-hypocrite-randall-terry-not-arrested-for-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-15723 Joe 6 Pack Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:13:08 +0000 http://127.0.0.1/?p=7039#comment-15723 It amazes me how much folks who don't regularly attend the Catholic Church know about it! Do you know what this past Sunday's gospel was about? It explains exactly what Barnes is criticizing. Why is it not enough for you to just leave the Church? Why do you have to try to destroy it? I'll tell you why. It is lack of confidence in your conviction. You want to make sure as many people as possible go down with you in case you're wrong! It's standard policy for Liberals. it doesn't matter what the topic is, you guys spew venom at anyone who disagrees with you. You guys have no idea what the Catholic Churches view on stem cell research is nor do you have a clue about the advances that have taken place over the last 10 years! You just make up facts to support your ideals. It really is sad. Here's a news bulletin for you...Not everything bad thing in the world is due to George Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Fox News or the Pope! And they are not all a conspiracy. You sound like my favorite Secretary of State. You want to talk about conspiracy, why don't you explain why everyone she was friends with involved in White Water are dead! Now that's a juicy conspiracy. And who knows, there might actually even be some truth to it! It amazes me how much folks who don’t regularly attend the Catholic Church know about it! Do you know what this past Sunday’s gospel was about? It explains exactly what Barnes is criticizing.

Why is it not enough for you to just leave the Church? Why do you have to try to destroy it? I’ll tell you why. It is lack of confidence in your conviction. You want to make sure as many people as possible go down with you in case you’re wrong! It’s standard policy for Liberals. it doesn’t matter what the topic is, you guys spew venom at anyone who disagrees with you.

You guys have no idea what the Catholic Churches view on stem cell research is nor do you have a clue about the advances that have taken place over the last 10 years! You just make up facts to support your ideals. It really is sad.

Here’s a news bulletin for you…Not everything bad thing in the world is due to George Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Fox News or the Pope! And they are not all a conspiracy. You sound like my favorite Secretary of State. You want to talk about conspiracy, why don’t you explain why everyone she was friends with involved in White Water are dead! Now that’s a juicy conspiracy. And who knows, there might actually even be some truth to it!

]]> By: duffster http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/06/01/gop-hypocrite-randall-terry-not-arrested-for-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-15714 duffster Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:37:14 +0000 http://127.0.0.1/?p=7039#comment-15714 I think of type 2 diabetes alone..and the tens of thousands of vets whose lives have been shortened. It pisses me off. g I think of type 2 diabetes alone..and the tens of thousands of vets whose lives have been shortened.

It pisses me off.
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]]> By: Tom Barnes http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/06/01/gop-hypocrite-randall-terry-not-arrested-for-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-15708 Tom Barnes Mon, 01 Jun 2009 14:27:07 +0000 http://127.0.0.1/?p=7039#comment-15708 <p>Well as someone who studied for priesthood myself but who no longer practices a formal religion, I am at a loss as to how to explain that there really is not <strong>A </strong>Catholic Church.  There are many, many Catholic Churches within the church all having their own agendas, their own power bases and their own style of cafeteria Catholicism, that is, they pick and choose what they hold dear and sacred.  They choose the rules that they wish to follow based on regional culture and historical precedent.</p><p>The American Church within Catholicism was traditionally quite liberal however in the past thirty years or so it has moved very far to the right.  The Latin American Catholic churches along with the Asian and African Catholic Churches tend to be quite radical at the priest and lay worker level and enormously conservative at the hierarchical level (i.e. the bishops).  It is certainly true that from Mexico to Tierra Del Fuego many rebel leaders were and are in fact Catholic priests.  In a few cases, they have been Catholic bishops.  The notion that there is one theology in Catholicism is a pipe dream for Catholic apologists.  There are hundreds of theologies.  But there is one united front that is put up front for all the world to see.  AND THAT is what we are talking about here.</p><p>The popes and cardinals and archbishops and Eastern Rite metropolitans and patriarchs have been bending the rules for their own benefit for well over 1500 years.  This is not news.  What is news is that modern technology allows all of us to know to a very great extent exactly what they are doing at all times, once an insider is willing to talk.  It is now painfully obvious that the old men in the Vatican are without doubt getting medical care for their dementia that is forbidden to the pew Catholic on so called moral grounds.  This must stop and this is hypocrisy of the highest order.</p><p>The reason that this is so important to American veterans is that we have so many extremely disabled veterans in this country to whom stem cell research using fetal cells could literally have them walk again or think straight again or rid them of possible fatal diseases.  This is no small thing and the Catholic Church is standing in the way.  This is wrong.</p><p>Bottom line...if it is good enough for the pope...it is good enough for us.  Lets stop the hypocrisy and get this technique out there for everyone.</p><p>CWO3 Tom Barnes, USCG (Ret.)</p> Well as someone who studied for priesthood myself but who no longer practices a formal religion, I am at a loss as to how to explain that there really is not A Catholic Church.  There are many, many Catholic Churches within the church all having their own agendas, their own power bases and their own style of cafeteria Catholicism, that is, they pick and choose what they hold dear and sacred.  They choose the rules that they wish to follow based on regional culture and historical precedent.

The American Church within Catholicism was traditionally quite liberal however in the past thirty years or so it has moved very far to the right.  The Latin American Catholic churches along with the Asian and African Catholic Churches tend to be quite radical at the priest and lay worker level and enormously conservative at the hierarchical level (i.e. the bishops).  It is certainly true that from Mexico to Tierra Del Fuego many rebel leaders were and are in fact Catholic priests.  In a few cases, they have been Catholic bishops.  The notion that there is one theology in Catholicism is a pipe dream for Catholic apologists.  There are hundreds of theologies.  But there is one united front that is put up front for all the world to see.  AND THAT is what we are talking about here.

The popes and cardinals and archbishops and Eastern Rite metropolitans and patriarchs have been bending the rules for their own benefit for well over 1500 years.  This is not news.  What is news is that modern technology allows all of us to know to a very great extent exactly what they are doing at all times, once an insider is willing to talk.  It is now painfully obvious that the old men in the Vatican are without doubt getting medical care for their dementia that is forbidden to the pew Catholic on so called moral grounds.  This must stop and this is hypocrisy of the highest order.

The reason that this is so important to American veterans is that we have so many extremely disabled veterans in this country to whom stem cell research using fetal cells could literally have them walk again or think straight again or rid them of possible fatal diseases.  This is no small thing and the Catholic Church is standing in the way.  This is wrong.

Bottom line…if it is good enough for the pope…it is good enough for us.  Lets stop the hypocrisy and get this technique out there for everyone.

CWO3 Tom Barnes, USCG (Ret.)

]]> By: duffster http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/06/01/gop-hypocrite-randall-terry-not-arrested-for-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-15689 duffster Mon, 01 Jun 2009 10:19:19 +0000 http://127.0.0.1/?p=7039#comment-15689 <p>I hope we see a proper response to both issues.</p><p>1.  Domestic terrorism too long hiddin within "the right."</p><p>2.  Phony "Christian values" that are putting thousands of veterans in an early grave.</p><p>As you did this interview with me, your take on this would be desired.</p><p>g</p> I hope we see a proper response to both issues.

1.  Domestic terrorism too long hiddin within "the right."

2.  Phony "Christian values" that are putting thousands of veterans in an early grave.

As you did this interview with me, your take on this would be desired.

g

]]> By: Tom Barnes http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/06/01/gop-hypocrite-randall-terry-not-arrested-for-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-15674 Tom Barnes Mon, 01 Jun 2009 07:27:09 +0000 http://127.0.0.1/?p=7039#comment-15674 <p>I just sent this article to the people that I work with relative to sexual abuse issues in the Catholic Church.  Many of them are newspaper people.  Lets see what happens.</p><p> Tom Barnes</p> I just sent this article to the people that I work with relative to sexual abuse issues in the Catholic Church.  Many of them are newspaper people.  Lets see what happens.

 Tom Barnes

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