General Petraeus acknowledges the US has violated the Geneva Conventions and international law
June 5, 2009 by Robert L. Hanafin · 2 Comments
Generals Commanding the Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan acknowledge that violations of the Geneva Convention were ineffective.
This is follow-up to a previous article about reasons why people who are pro-peace must take action NOW to help President Obama to further change America’s image in the world instead of continuing practices that contributed to that evil image. Two evils in no way equal any noble cause.
My personal opinion is that senior military leaders who were in G.W. Bush’s chain-of-command during the incicents in question are trying to both unsuccessfully distance themselves from responsiblity for the very evil acts they took part in as members of the Chain-of-Command, plus at the same time transition into Obama administration policy that is putting it meakly down on torture. In the event the Bush/Cheney crime syndicate should miraculously be brough to trial, these senior military leaders in his chain-of-command are able to say the devil made us do it. Generals you cannot have you Abu Gahrab and GITMO and deny it too.
So many former members of Bush’s military chain of command running for cover only tells me that neither Bush/Cheney nor the gang of thugs that brough disgrace upon our nation in the eyes of the international community will ever be brought to trail, but a few senior military leaders obviously fear so. Why? In any Chain-of-Command shit, crud, and evil rolls down hill. No more Colonels or even Captains can now be scapegoats for a federal government policy.
Robert L. Hanafin
Major, U.S. Air Force-Retired
Veterans Today Staff Writer
Editorial Board Member
General David Petraeus, in a stunning admission, acknowledges the US has violated the Geneva Conventions and international law. General Ricardo Sanchez, the former top coalition commander in Iraq, has called for a truth commission to investigate abusive interrogation practices. Former President Jimmy Carter disagreed with Obama’s decision not to release the photos and failure to fully investigate torture and abuse to determine whether prosecution is necessary.
Unfortunately, President Obama is doing all he can to block release of the photos, supporting a bill co-sponsored by Senators Joe Lieberman and Lindsay Graham that will re-write the Freedom of Information Act to prevent the release of the torture and abuse photos.
General David The legal, moral, and ethical question that would have been asked at the Nuremburg trials is if you gentlemen as senior military members within the President’s chain of command passionately and morally felt your Commander-In-Chief was WRONG, then why did you carry out his orders. Why did you not speak out then, or at the minimum retire in protest over violations of the Geneva Convention? Major Hanafin. – the figure lauded by conservatives and the person chosen by Bush and Cheney to sell the surge to Congress – said the following to Fox News in regards to criticisms of President Obama for taking “enhanced interrogation techniques” off the table:
Gen. Petraeus: "Well, actually what I would ask is, ‘Does that not take away from our enemies a tool which again have beaten us around the head and shoulders in the court of public opinion?’ When we have taken steps that have violated the Geneva Conventions we rightly have been criticized, so as we move forward I think it’s important to again live our values, to live the agreements that we have made in the international justice arena and to practice those."
Last Sunday, General Ricardo Sanchez, the former commander of all coalition forces in Iraq, called for a truth commission to investigate the abuses and torture which occurred there. General Sanchez also stated, "During my time in Iraq there was not one instance of actionable intelligence that came out of these interrogation techniques."
As Bush and Cheney scramble to defend their actions, making false claims about the effectiveness of the techniques and the military’s desire to use them, we must be very clear: the most senior generals, the ones we trust with our sons and daughters lives – who literally formed the battle plan – are saying Bush and Cheney were wrong.
"If we do not find out what happened then we are doomed to repeat it,” said General Sanchez.
The legal, moral, and ethical question that would have been asked at the Nuremburg trials had senior American military leaders violated the Geneva Conventon is if you gentlemen as senior military members within the President’s chain of command passionately and morally felt your Commander-In-Chief was WRONG, then why did you carry out his orders. Why did you not speak out then, or at the minimum retire in protest over violations of the Geneva Convention? Major Hanafin.
I remain a strong supporter of an independent investigation into the Bush Administration policies. Legislation must be introduced to Congress and given national grass roots support that would establish a special select House Committee to reexamine our national security after a full investigation of the practices and policies of the Bush Administration.
Complaints about the use of torture are no longer arising only from partisan political views but we must congradulate these non-partisan soldiers for their brave and honest words. However, we must also hold them responsible for following the orders of their chain-of- command. This sounds too much like former senior military officers once loyal to President Bush are now turning on him and Dick Cheney to save their own skins.
We trusted these men to take us to war. We should trust them when they say we, and they, went too far. For them to cast stones at the Bush administraton when they were an intimate part of that administration as acinine. It amounts to General Petraous and General Sanchez denying knowledge of GITMO or Abu Gahrab and to believe that would be yet just another Disney Fairy Tale.
The legal, moral, and ethical question that would have been asked at the Nuremburg trials is if you gentlemen as senior military members within the President’s chain of command passionately and morally felt your Commander-In-Chief was WRONG, then why did you carry out his orders. Why did you not speak out then, or at the minimum retire in protest over violations of the Geneva Convention? Major Hanafin.
We need to consistently let our representatives know that we oppose these actions and organize events to push them to end these wars and apply the rule of law to torture. You can write your representatives and President Obama by clicking here.



























In reviewing Vice President Cheney’s informal testimony, we should consider the favorable evaluation of his credibility by former Republican spokesperson, Nancy Pfotenhauer [www.FairAndUNbalanced.com?http:]
Burr,
I pretty much prefer the source you got this from Talking Points Memo [tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com] (TMP) [tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com]
to FU, but FU is a catchy phrase, and it admits to being Unbalanced, or more approprately Fair and Unbalanced.
Either way, the comments and responses bloggers received to this delusional view by Nancy P. reflect negatively on former (thank the Gods) Vice-President Cheney, the Bush administration, and the United States government.
That said, having served in the federal government (in and out of uniform and undercover) my bet is on nothing being seriously done about Bush, Cheney, the Generals, even the Camp Commandante at GITMO. It’s worthy news to print when the most senior military officer’s in Bush’s chain of command turn on him, but that’s about as far as this is going.
To pursue a serious investigation let alone prosecution of the Bush cartel means holding responsible EVERYONE in the Chain of Command (ala Nuremburg) and that’s never gonna happen.
Speaking as a former Army Dad, I have passionate mixed feelings about this. Would you seriously want you son or daughter to be a prison guard anywhere in Iraq, Afghanistan, or GITMO as our national leaders debate the good or evil you’ve taken part in. No one in any military family would want their love one placed in that position.
These Generals are trying to distance themselves from the Bush/Cheny horror show just like the Republican party unsuccessfully did giving us Barrack Obama.
But we know that shit rolls down hill, if the former Commander-In-Chief is found guilty of ordering torture, each and everyone who followed those orders in the Chain of Command is vulnerable for that guilt from the President to the Joint Chiefs of Staff at the time, to commanders in the field right down to the prison guards.
If this really got serious, we would see the politicians and former politician plus senior military leadership clammering to find some underling(s) and scapegoats to blame. You know the Few Bad Apples Card.
Major Hanafin
USAF-Retired