Comments on: Too Many Unmet Needs for America’s Veterans: Losing Veterans to our Streets http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/06/05/too-many-unmet-needs-for-america-s-veterans-losing-veterans-to-our-streets/ Military Veterans and Foreign Affairs Journal - VA - Veterans Administration Sun, 21 Mar 2010 09:01:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: dishonored veteran http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/06/05/too-many-unmet-needs-for-america-s-veterans-losing-veterans-to-our-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-26141 dishonored veteran Sun, 27 Sep 2009 08:18:12 +0000 http://127.0.0.1/?p=7186#comment-26141 THEY TREAT VETERANS LIKE DOG POO, IM A WOMEN VETERAN THEY LOST MY MEDICAL RECORDS THE VA DENIED ME NOW I HAVE TO WAIT FOR SOME FUBAR VA HEARING 3 YEARS NO HEARING, THE PEOPLE THAT LOST MY RECORDS NRPC THEY SENT ME A LETTER SAYING THEY LOST THEM. SO IM OUT COMPENSATION BECUASE THE GOVERNMENT DOSN'T KNOW HOW TO FILE, BUT IF IT WAS A POLITICIANS RECORDS THEY WOULD OF BEEN YESTERDAY. THIS IS THE GOVERNMENT THEY WILL KICK YOU WHEN YOUR DOWN AND SAY WE LOST YOUR RECORDS AND WHEN YOU ASK FOR A GOVERNMENT JOB THEY WILL DISHONOR YOU BY NOT HIRNINH YOU OVER A CIVILIAN WITH A HIGH SCHOOL EDUCATION THAT NEVER SERVED, THE DISHONOR FROM OUR OWN GOVERNMENT IS AT THE PEAK OF UNETHICAL AND UNMORAL. SENATOR MITCHELL BACHMAN ISN RIGHT WE DO NEED A INVESTIGAION INTO THSES GOVERNMENT AGENCIES THE VA ACTS LIKE THEY ARE LIBYA, THEY FORGET THEY ARE OWNED BY THE US TAXPAYERS. THEY US TAX PAYERS WANT YOU TO TAKE CARE OF THE VETERANS NOT YOUR CIVILAIN FAMILIES THAT NEVER SERVED THAT YOU GOT JOBS FOR INSIDE THE VA. YES THE THERE IS MANY GOVERNMENT OFFICES THAT NEEDS INVESTIGATING AND TO START THE HUMAN RESOURCE OFFICES OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT THEY IS ALOT OF ANTI VETERAN SENTIMENT COMMING FROM GOVERNMENT OFFICES AND ESPICALLY THE PEOPLE WHO DO THE HIRING. THERE IS VETERANS DOING FOIA LETTERS TO GET INFORAMTION ON WHO THEY HIRED THE USAF WILL PUT IT ON ALL THERE DENIAL LETTERS WHO THEY HIRED THE VA WANTS YOU TO A FOIA LETTER WHICH THEY WILL NOT ANSWER AND GIVE YOU THE RUN AROUND THERE IS SO MUCH DISPECT FROM THE VA THEY NEED TO PURGE 80 pERCENT OF THESE PEOPLE WHO THE RUN THE VA WITH PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY SERVED THERE COUNTRY. ALL WE GOT NOW IS PWOPLW WHO HATE VETERANS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE TO TO usaf TO THE va. jUST GO INTO ANY GOVERNMENT OFFICE AND ASK DID YOU SERVE THE 90 PERCENT ANSER IS NO. THERE IS NO MORE HONOR IN SERVING BECAUSE YOU ARE SPIT ON WHEN YOU GET BACK BY THE DISHONOROUS TREATMENT YOU GET FROM VA DOWN. http://www.federaltimes.com/index.php?S=3026827 THEY TREAT VETERANS LIKE DOG POO, IM A WOMEN VETERAN THEY LOST MY MEDICAL RECORDS THE VA DENIED ME NOW I HAVE TO WAIT FOR SOME FUBAR VA HEARING 3 YEARS NO HEARING, THE PEOPLE THAT LOST MY RECORDS NRPC THEY SENT ME A LETTER SAYING THEY LOST THEM. SO IM OUT COMPENSATION BECUASE THE GOVERNMENT DOSN’T KNOW HOW TO FILE, BUT IF IT WAS A POLITICIANS RECORDS THEY WOULD OF BEEN YESTERDAY. THIS IS THE GOVERNMENT THEY WILL KICK YOU WHEN YOUR DOWN AND SAY WE LOST YOUR RECORDS AND WHEN YOU ASK FOR A GOVERNMENT JOB THEY WILL DISHONOR YOU BY NOT HIRNINH YOU OVER A CIVILIAN WITH A HIGH SCHOOL EDUCATION THAT NEVER SERVED, THE DISHONOR FROM OUR OWN GOVERNMENT IS AT THE PEAK OF UNETHICAL AND UNMORAL. SENATOR MITCHELL BACHMAN ISN RIGHT WE DO NEED A INVESTIGAION INTO THSES GOVERNMENT AGENCIES THE VA ACTS LIKE THEY ARE LIBYA, THEY FORGET THEY ARE OWNED BY THE US TAXPAYERS. THEY US TAX PAYERS WANT YOU TO TAKE CARE OF THE VETERANS NOT YOUR CIVILAIN FAMILIES THAT NEVER SERVED THAT YOU GOT JOBS FOR INSIDE THE VA. YES THE THERE IS MANY GOVERNMENT OFFICES THAT NEEDS INVESTIGATING AND TO START THE HUMAN RESOURCE OFFICES OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT THEY IS ALOT OF ANTI VETERAN SENTIMENT COMMING FROM GOVERNMENT OFFICES AND ESPICALLY THE PEOPLE WHO DO THE HIRING. THERE IS VETERANS DOING FOIA LETTERS TO GET INFORAMTION ON WHO THEY HIRED THE USAF WILL PUT IT ON ALL THERE DENIAL LETTERS WHO THEY HIRED THE VA WANTS YOU TO A FOIA LETTER WHICH THEY WILL NOT ANSWER AND GIVE YOU THE RUN AROUND THERE IS SO MUCH DISPECT FROM THE VA THEY NEED TO PURGE 80 pERCENT OF THESE PEOPLE WHO THE RUN THE VA WITH PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY SERVED THERE COUNTRY. ALL WE GOT NOW IS PWOPLW WHO HATE VETERANS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE TO TO usaf TO THE va. jUST GO INTO ANY GOVERNMENT OFFICE AND ASK DID YOU SERVE THE 90 PERCENT ANSER IS NO. THERE IS NO MORE HONOR IN SERVING BECAUSE YOU ARE SPIT ON WHEN YOU GET BACK BY THE DISHONOROUS TREATMENT YOU GET FROM VA DOWN.

http://www.federaltimes.com/index.php?S=3026827

]]> By: Daniel http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/06/05/too-many-unmet-needs-for-america-s-veterans-losing-veterans-to-our-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-16260 Daniel Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:32:35 +0000 http://127.0.0.1/?p=7186#comment-16260 Terry you may be right, that there are a number of Veterans that don't want to be bothered by the VA because there are a large number of people that work at the WLA VA that don't give a hoot about veterans, they are collecting a check. I know because it took me thirty years before I ever went back after my initial visit, and then when I became a single father, I went back for a job. I couldn't help but think while working there observing the way some veterans are treated, 'With the exception of the Grace of GOD, there goes me.' Most of the civilians, are decent, but managements agenda is not in the Veterans favor. They are concerned with the budget and favors with cronies and relatives. I said that to say this, Regardless of the fact of some not wanting help, the Government is obligated to make it available to all veterans, particularly combat Veterans, and those that have service connected disabilities. If Veterans can operate the Armed Services, then they can run hospitals and administrative offices. Those without jobs should be working at those facilities. And they should have priority and preference. Maybe then you would see the letter of the law being utilized. Terry you may be right, that there are a number of Veterans that don’t want to be bothered by the VA because there are a large number of people that work at the WLA VA that don’t give a hoot about veterans, they are collecting a check. I know because it took me thirty years before I ever went back after my initial visit, and then when I became a single father, I went back for a job. I couldn’t help but think while working there observing the way some veterans are treated, ‘With the exception of the Grace of GOD, there goes me.’ Most of the civilians, are decent, but managements agenda is not in the Veterans favor. They are concerned with the budget and favors with cronies and relatives. I said that to say this, Regardless of the fact of some not wanting help, the Government is obligated to make it available to all veterans, particularly combat Veterans, and those that have service connected disabilities. If Veterans can operate the Armed Services, then they can run hospitals and administrative offices. Those without jobs should be working at those facilities. And they should have priority and preference. Maybe then you would see the letter of the law being utilized.

]]> By: Terry http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/06/05/too-many-unmet-needs-for-america-s-veterans-losing-veterans-to-our-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-16170 Terry Sat, 06 Jun 2009 06:07:43 +0000 http://127.0.0.1/?p=7186#comment-16170 You can't get everyone off the streets, veteran or not. Some of them like it there. It is what they know. They have no desire to get cleaned up, get a job and be a part of a society they feel has failed them. I know what I am talking about, because I was on the street myself in Los Angeles 5 years ago. Sleeping on the street, or under a box, and hoping that I didn't get shot. What was different for me, I guess is that I felt like I had let my family, and society in general down. If it hadn't been for the VA, I would probably still be there. I had the chance to enter New Directions program. I went inside and a feeling came over me, that it was not the place for me. I ended up in another program there. The help I got was really the result of the VA Clinic downtown, and not so much the West LA facility. I stayed there 3 months and then moved to the Philippines. I give the most credit to the God that I believe in, and my family who taught me what I needed to survive. Many of those veterans have no such beliefs, but you can only make help available. You can't force anyone to accept help. Either they want it or they don't. Stand up American, and be proud of your heritage. America is still the land of the free, and the home of the brave!! You can’t get everyone off the streets, veteran or not. Some of them like it there. It is what they know. They have no desire to get cleaned up, get a job and be a part of a society they feel has failed them. I know what I am talking about, because I was on the street myself in Los Angeles 5 years ago. Sleeping on the street, or under a box, and hoping that I didn’t get shot. What was different for me, I guess is that I felt like I had let my family, and society in general down. If it hadn’t been for the VA, I would probably still be there. I had the chance to enter New Directions program. I went inside and a feeling came over me, that it was not the place for me. I ended up in another program there. The help I got was really the result of the VA Clinic downtown, and not so much the West LA facility. I stayed there 3 months and then moved to the Philippines. I give the most credit to the God that I believe in, and my family who taught me what I needed to survive. Many of those veterans have no such beliefs, but you can only make help available. You can’t force anyone to accept help. Either they want it or they don’t. Stand up American, and be proud of your heritage. America is still the land of the free, and the home of the brave!!

]]> By: Dan http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/06/05/too-many-unmet-needs-for-america-s-veterans-losing-veterans-to-our-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-16152 Dan Fri, 05 Jun 2009 18:44:02 +0000 http://127.0.0.1/?p=7186#comment-16152 This is not a new issue. Congress has known that this was a problem and is only getting worse. As more of our nations hero's return and do not receive adequate treatment for PTSD, TBI, or transition assistance this problem will soon reach unimaginable proportions. It is time the House and Senate take action! Holding hearings year after year and still taking no action is ridiculous. We owe our veterans so much more! This is not a new issue. Congress has known that this was a problem and is only getting worse. As more of our nations hero’s return and do not receive adequate treatment for PTSD, TBI, or transition assistance this problem will soon reach unimaginable proportions. It is time the House and Senate take action! Holding hearings year after year and still taking no action is ridiculous. We owe our veterans so much more!

]]> By: Carlo Albanese http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/06/05/too-many-unmet-needs-for-america-s-veterans-losing-veterans-to-our-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-16142 Carlo Albanese Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:05:52 +0000 http://127.0.0.1/?p=7186#comment-16142 If America Only Knew, If Congress Only Cared and made the necessary commitments, Public Laws and provided for our veterans to the degree they should, then we would not have Veterans, their families and loved ones in the financial, medical and deplorable circumstances veterans are faced with. We as a nation "Congress" vote away American tax payers money to care for the world globally, but neglect to care for our own veterans first and Americans at home. Some thing is wrong with our political system in Washington and those in control of it. Broken, Government, Broken Promises to our Veterans! Will we ever have the change and reform acted upon, implemented other then verbal commitments, hearings, Bills introduced and political obstacles put in the way of our Veterans rights. Read the words on the Department of Veterans Affairs Building in Washington DC. " To Care for Him Who Has Born The Battle and for His Widow, and his Orphan" President A. Lincoln A Veterans Battle should not have to be with his or her own Government, Congress or the Department of Veterans Affairs. Carlo Albanese New York If America Only Knew, If Congress Only Cared and made the necessary commitments, Public Laws and provided for our veterans to the degree they should, then we would not have Veterans, their families and loved ones in the financial, medical and deplorable circumstances veterans are faced with.

We as a nation “Congress” vote away American tax payers money to care for the world globally, but neglect to care for our own veterans first and Americans at home.

Some thing is wrong with our political system in Washington and those in control of it.

Broken, Government, Broken Promises to our Veterans!

Will we ever have the change and reform acted upon, implemented other then verbal commitments, hearings, Bills introduced and political obstacles put in the way of our Veterans rights.

Read the words on the Department of Veterans Affairs Building in Washington DC.

” To Care for Him Who Has Born The Battle and for His Widow, and his Orphan”

President A. Lincoln

A Veterans Battle should not have to be with his or her own Government, Congress or the Department of Veterans Affairs.

Carlo Albanese
New York

]]> By: Chaplain Mary Murphy War Widow http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/06/05/too-many-unmet-needs-for-america-s-veterans-losing-veterans-to-our-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-16140 Chaplain Mary Murphy War Widow Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:58:54 +0000 http://127.0.0.1/?p=7186#comment-16140 www.veteranschamberofcommerce.org has the first Chamber of Commerce educating our Veterans Incarcerated and Homeless to be solar-energy business owners; hiring only Veterans for this needed faith-based paradigm Please help us locate churches, etc, who will sponsor the individual Veteran vis this systemic change The War Widows Veteransjustice@aol.com http://www.veteranschamberofcommerce.org has the first Chamber of Commerce educating our Veterans Incarcerated and Homeless to be solar-energy business owners; hiring only Veterans for this needed faith-based paradigm

Please help us locate churches, etc, who will sponsor the individual Veteran vis this systemic change
The War Widows
Veteransjustice@aol.com

]]> By: Jim Davis, Veterans-For-Change http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/06/05/too-many-unmet-needs-for-america-s-veterans-losing-veterans-to-our-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-16134 Jim Davis, Veterans-For-Change Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:06:43 +0000 http://127.0.0.1/?p=7186#comment-16134 Maybe, and I do mean maybe, if our Congress and the President weren’t always pushing for Amnesty, or funding programs that illegal aliens can access which every day normal US Citizens can’t, there’d be more than enough money to help homeless veterans! They’re would be jobs for them! I’m quite sure any homeless vet no matter the job if one were available and offered would be thrilled to take it. Once again making them a productive citizen of society. And if the VA actually provided the benefits and services needed these veterans not only were promised but damn sure earned, again, our homeless veteran population wouldn’t be near the numbers we see and hear every day! But then we also have the Sepulveda VA Facility who wants to put stringent demands on rent making it damn near impossible to house veterans when they’re homeless, wanting to rent to any Joe blow off the street, or rent to movie studios, or hell just sell off the land. We already have such a high suicide rate and homeless population it’s NOT funny! It’s just even tolerable not to mention even acceptable! We have so many veterans walking around, or worse buried in their home or some card board box on the street suffering from PTSD, entitled to benefits, medical care, treatment, a home, and we simply allow the Government and the VA to ignore them. Don’t issue any more PTSD diagnosis, don’t treat them, just let them wander off and die. Why is it that so many veterans are so damn scared to do something? Why can’t they or won’t they help their fellow veteran? Push the issue with your VFW, American Legion, Viet Nam Veterans, whom ever. Hell join a grass roots veterans organization and do something to stop this insanity! Stop being just another statistic on some lame report that 90% of the members of Congress will never read. WE can put a stop to the continual abuse inflicted by the VA! WE can stop the abuse by Congress! WE can force Congress and the President to do the right thing, if and when veterans UNITE as one and force the issues down their throats till they can’t breath any longer! And not let up until they actually put forth legislation to care for ALL veterans, spouses, and their children. Not let up till they fix the problem in the over 1 million claims and appeals in backlog. Put those boots back on the ground and really do something! Jim Davis President Veterans-For-Change . JDAVIS92840@SBCGLOBAL.NET . http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VETERANS-FOR-CHANGE/ Maybe, and I do mean maybe, if our Congress and the President weren’t always pushing for Amnesty, or funding programs that illegal aliens can access which every day normal US Citizens can’t, there’d be more than enough money to help homeless veterans!

They’re would be jobs for them!

I’m quite sure any homeless vet no matter the job if one were available and offered would be thrilled to take it. Once again making them a productive citizen of society.

And if the VA actually provided the benefits and services needed these veterans not only were promised but damn sure earned, again, our homeless veteran population wouldn’t be near the numbers we see and hear every day!

But then we also have the Sepulveda VA Facility who wants to put stringent demands on rent making it damn near impossible to house veterans when they’re homeless, wanting to rent to any Joe blow off the street, or rent to movie studios, or hell just sell off the land.

We already have such a high suicide rate and homeless population it’s NOT funny! It’s just even tolerable not to mention even acceptable!

We have so many veterans walking around, or worse buried in their home or some card board box on the street suffering from PTSD, entitled to benefits, medical care, treatment, a home, and we simply allow the Government and the VA to ignore them.

Don’t issue any more PTSD diagnosis, don’t treat them, just let them wander off and die.

Why is it that so many veterans are so damn scared to do something? Why can’t they or won’t they help their fellow veteran?

Push the issue with your VFW, American Legion, Viet Nam Veterans, whom ever. Hell join a grass roots veterans organization and do something to stop this insanity!

Stop being just another statistic on some lame report that 90% of the members of Congress will never read.

WE can put a stop to the continual abuse inflicted by the VA! WE can stop the abuse by Congress! WE can force Congress and the President to do the right thing, if and when veterans UNITE as one and force the issues down their throats till they can’t breath any longer!

And not let up until they actually put forth legislation to care for ALL veterans, spouses, and their children.

Not let up till they fix the problem in the over 1 million claims and appeals in backlog.

Put those boots back on the ground and really do something!

Jim Davis
President
Veterans-For-Change
.
JDAVIS92840@SBCGLOBAL.NET
.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VETERANS-FOR-CHANGE/

]]> By: What is the truth? http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/06/05/too-many-unmet-needs-for-america-s-veterans-losing-veterans-to-our-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-16131 What is the truth? Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:10:38 +0000 http://127.0.0.1/?p=7186#comment-16131 From a business stand point it is much easier to under pay them up front, then brand them with a criminal record later then Deny deny till they die, all others we can be put on some socialized welfare program for the mentally ill. Just so all those who are supporting government and in congress make money that is what counts, LIVE MAKE MONEY AND DIE all the rest Our citizens can put on welfare. It works in Denmark. What is the Truth when contractors are paying construction help 2500.00 a week and soldiers make 500.00 a week to die? Something stinks in America and has had plenty of time to rot... After all America cannot have those lazy get over vets get more then what congresses corporate cronies assume each is due. Just cannot have pay without OFFSETS… One thing for sure those bonuses must get paid. Not to worry U.S. Government will throw everyone a few crumbs in a stimulus check… From a business stand point it is much easier to under pay them up front, then brand them with a criminal record later then Deny deny till they die, all others we can be put on some socialized welfare program for the mentally ill. Just so all those who are supporting government and in congress make money that is what counts, LIVE MAKE MONEY AND DIE all the rest Our citizens can put on welfare. It works in Denmark. What is the Truth when contractors are paying construction help 2500.00 a week and soldiers make 500.00 a week to die? Something stinks in America and has had plenty of time to rot… After all America cannot have those lazy get over vets get more then what congresses corporate cronies assume each is due. Just cannot have pay without OFFSETS… One thing for sure those bonuses must get paid. Not to worry U.S. Government will throw everyone a few crumbs in a stimulus check…

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