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9/11 AND A GENERATION DECEIVED

October 8, 2009 by Gordon Duff · 41 Comments 

whitesheetsHAS UNCLE SAM STRAYED?  IS HE CHEATING ON US?

9/11 WAS NOT THE FIRST AND WON’T BE THE LAST

By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor

We make it easy for them.  Lying to us is nothing.  Our own government is a pack of philandering cheats, phony attacks, lying about wars, never a word of truth we can depend on. No matter what kind of outlandish thing they do, some "commission" covers it up.  We don’t need any of their blue ribbon commissions, we need a good divorce lawyer.

     

What happens when the delusional "super patriots" in our government go totally nuts on us as years of odd coincidences is beginning to prove to even the biggest dullards?  What happens to keep one of their conspiracies from blowing up in their faces?  First, word leaks out. 

A few weeks later, anyone who says anything is called a "conspiracy nut."  Newspapers can’t carry stories once anyone says "conspiracy."  What does it cause?  Simple.  Give a group total power to do anything they want, no matter how brutal, how insane.  Make them above the law.  Show them that anything can be covered up, that the press will no longer look into anything and that "national security" can be used to classify evidence for decades, even centuries and we have opened the door to barbarism.

Why is there a huge 9/11 conspiracy movement?  Another no brainer.  It is no big stretch of the imagination that Bush, Cheney and Rove could get a pack of rogue CIA/Mossad folks to do anything if the end result ended up as the war Bush was put in office to start.  We’ve been between the sheets with these folks for a long time, think about the USS Liberty. 

Why are millions willing to believe Obama wasn’t born in the US?  Simple.  If a secret group running our government could rig the Bush elections, blow up the World Trade Center, murder 2 Kennedys, fill out streets with drugs and rob the entire planet’s financial system, putting a Muslim from Kenya in the Whitehouse would be a piece of cake. 

Where does this leave us?  How does a generation of Americans live when confronted with one inexplicable thing after another, all having the look of being a bit too convenient and happening at just the right time. 

Many Americans pick up a newspaper or watch TV and as soon as they hear a rumor about an attack or a story about some threat. As soon as we see a pentagon fat ass on TV reading about some imaginary boogeyman on his telepromter, we know what’s coming.  Its too bad we set up phony terrorst attacks to end wars rather than just start them.  We need one right now to get us out of Afghanistan.

Maybe we can arrange one proving that Al Qaeda is in Africa and we can pack up, leave Afghanistan and Iraq and go there instead.  The worst part of that, even if there is no enemy for us to fight, as in Iraq, one will show up anyway, just because we are there.  Is this always the plan in the first place?

You can’t turn on the TV and head to the cable/satellite channels, A&E, Military History, Discovery and others without being confronted by continual assaults on our traditional view of history, many of the shows carefully outlining how what we have always believed was a convenient lie meant to shut us up. 

Between the ghosts and UFOs, shows like the Secret History of WW2, which debunks 75% of the accepted histroy of mankinds greatest conflict, shows us how far government goes and how little newspapers and historians really know.  Somewhere, in basements all over Washington DC, classified documents that would make a mockery of everything we hold true sit and collect dust. 

How does this make us feel?  Its like we are all married to people we find really aren’t going to a job every day but heading off to a motel somewhere.  One day, we follow them and see them coming out with a mysterious stranger.  We confront them.  They tell us that we made it all up.

Every American who chooses to believe the government when they yell out "conspiracy theory" is like the spouse being lied to.  You can keep quiet and pretend to believe, living a marriage more lie than real or you can break up your family, maybe lose you home, your kids, because you can’t live a lie.

In some cases, it goes much further, its like we watched the whole thing through the motel window, hell, it is even as bad as if we kept a video tape.  The Iraq War, the rigged elections, the anthrax outbreaks, the Sibel Edmonds spying scandal and the financial bailout are just like this.  We have it all, videos, stained sheets, the whole thing and seem to be enjoying the humiliation.

In this analogy, what are we telling the spouse?  Are we saying that "boys or girls night out" can be sex in the back seat somewhere and we simply don’t care?  What are we telling our government?  Are we saying that they can go ahead, kill all of us if they want.

Is this the message we want them to have?  If this president is from Kenya, maybe the next one won’t even speak English.  Our last one had the IQ of a chimp but none of the good looks.  There is no humiation we aren’t willing to accept.


gordonduff_400Senior Editor, Gordon Duff is a Marine combat veteran and regular contributor on political and social issues.

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41 Responses to “9/11 AND A GENERATION DECEIVED”
  1. Kahsahndra says:

    Great article – just to add a bit of history on Sadam’s WMD: 1967-things are not going well for Israel. The Eqyptian 5th Army has crossed the Suez, smashed the Bar Lev Line and for the first time in history, Israeli aromr and air are taking more casualties than their enemy. The Israeli field commander sends a message to Tel Aviv with the phrase “destruction of the 4th temple” which concerns us as we’ve learned this is actually a request to release nukes on the battlefield. Wondering just how bad this could get, Pres. Nixon orders an SR=71 from California to overfly the base – carved out of a mountain a la’ the NORAD folks – and see what’s up. Blackbird refuels twice over the Pacific, and desopite the Israeli F-4, HAWKs etc, makes it home. We check the entrails of the beast and announce Israel has 7 nukes ready to go. Three ways we could know that: 1) we had a spy at the base who held up seven fingers when the Blackbird flew over. 2) The A/C brok down inside the mountain and the bombs had been moved to the parking lot to keep from overheating 3) there was something inside the SR-71 that could peek inside a mountain and count nukes. Fast fwd to the Carter Administration. Jimmy is pushing a disarmament plan where we’d have one nuke hidden among dozens of missiles that would play musical chairs among silos all over the West. The plan is dropped when NRO discovers the Soviets have duplicated our ability to spot nukes inside the silos FROM SPACE. Anybody who thinks we somehow didn’t KNOW there were no nukes anywhere in Iraq 30 years later is a dunce or a dupe.

  2. duffster says:

    Great story, well written.  I am intested in knowing more.  Who are u?

    g

     

  3. Tom Barnes says:

    When one gets a degree in history, either undergrad or grad, one has to learn about historiograhy and what it is…and what it is not.  The dictionary definition reads like this:

    Main Entry: his·to·ri·og·ra·phy
    Pronunciation: \-fē\
    Function: noun
    Date: 1569

    1 a : the writing of history; especially : the writing of history based on the critical examination of sources, the selection of particulars from the authentic materials, and the synthesis of particulars into a narrative that will stand the test of critical methods b : the principles, theory, and history of historical writing <a course in historiography>
    2 : the product of historical writing : a body of historical literature

    his·to·rio·graph·i·cal \-ē-ə-ˈgra-fi-kəl\ also his·to·rio·graph·ic \-fik\ adjective

    his·to·rio·graph·i·cal·ly \-ē-ə-ˈgra-fi-k(ə-)lē\ adverb

    Some of the "biggies" in laying down what history is and is not (in the West) are Plutarch, Hegel, Darwin, Marx, Arnold Toynbee, Turner and Boorstin and such theories as the Radicals and the Historical Forces theorists.  In essence, nobody agrees completely as to what history is or is not. 

    They all take a different view and to some extent, even at the university level, it is recognized that history is pretty much what a group of important and connected people in power say it is. 

    There is the rub.  If history is a story, everyone who gets to tell it around the campfire is allowed to tell a different story to the campers as long as it has some basis in fact, some sense of unity and flow to the story, and some socially redeeming qualities i.e. we can all learn from the story.

    Whether or not the story that is being told is objectively true or not can never really be settled.  For everyone that says "this" is what happened, you will find an equal amount of people that say "no, that is what happened".  It is in the nature of humans telling tales.

    So in the end, conspiracy theorists, liars, Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity have it right.  They can say whatever they want to say because they have a right to their view of reality. 

    The problem comes in when a skewed view of reality is accepted as "objective truth" by people who can change things around for all of us.  That is why Coulter and Beck and Hannity are dangerous.  It is not because they change the facts, it is because they cleverly take the facts and then bend them to a predetermined ideology that that foist upon the rest of us.

    That is to say, they tell half truths.  And half truths are ALWAYS more dangerous than lies.  Because they are partially true and to some extent can be corroborated with facts and have some basis in reality.

    In the end, it all comes down to what Jesus of Nazareth is purported to have said to Pontius Pilate at his hearing before that Procurator prior to his storied crucifixion.  The Gospels say that He asked Pilate "What is truth?".

    It is assumed that Pilate did not answer.

    • Shea Brown says:

      Hey Tom,
      It is not very often I pick up my little pocket sized New Testament,, but I did this morning to review the conversation between Jesus and Pilate.
      My copy says this,,
      John, chapter 18, verse 38;

      Pilate said to Him,”What is truth?” And when he had said this, he went out again to the Jews, and said to them,”I find no fault in Him at all.”

      This was Pilate’s response to Jesus telling him that he had come into the world
      “to bear witness to the truth.” (verse 37.)

      I only mention this, as might a kind and friendly editor. I appreciate very much your intelligent posts on these pages.
      I look forward to reading Gordon’s articles every day,, I like his energy and anger,,
      and in hearing that,, I also hear his hope.
      We are indeed in a crazy world,, where we have given over our military missions to private contractors who can only profit quite handsomely from the continuation of conflict. Makes about as much sense as asking your heart surgeon to chug a pint of vodka just before he operates.
      Oh well,,,time to turn on some of the Sunday news shows,, to wait for the questions that never seem to be asked.
      I will google your name this morning to see if you have your own site,, or to find some more of your writing,, you do write so well. If you have have a site, perhaps you might pass that on to me, I would appreciate it.
      Shea Brown believepeaceispossible@yahoo.com

  4. Da_old_warrant says:

    I have given this much thought. You couldn’t ram airliners into NY. buildings without someone involved in the planning talking ……..Unless they were in one room of the pentagon when the bomb went off !!

    • duffster says:

      Real insiders never talk.  Has anyone in the Johnson administration fessed up for ordering the sinking of the USS Liberty?

      Anyone in the FBI for murdering MLK?  JFK?  RFK?

      Anyone in the Bush family for the Reagan attempt?

      g

  5. George Wurtzinger says:

    Gordon, you have no idea how much I wish I could attack the arguments in your column. I CANNOT! You are, unfortunately, right on the money.

    Some of us suspected we were lied to. Documentaries on cable expose some of the secrets and lies we have been fed for too long.

    As a Vietnam veteran, who volunteered to go, I never knew whether or not we were right to be there. That was beyond the scope of a lowly trooper. Rather, my knowledge was that was my country’s position and I felt compelled to answer the call.

    Recently, McNamara died after his expose to cleanse his conscious. While his conscious may have been cleared, his soul wasn’t. Nor has his record. His actions and inactions called for discipline that he never faced. It’s no wonder that many of us were unable to find something good to say when he kicked the bucket.

    Yesterday, I was outraged to learn it was the eighth year of our troops in Afghanistan. The current Prez is waiting for a strategy. He and his staff met yesterday to discuss Pakistan for 3 hours. Afghanistan may come up at the end of the week or maybe next week.

    To top things off, there was a photo of a little girl who couldn’t say good-bye to her daddy. No one could turn her away from him. That little girl represents the reality of war and its impact on the families of our military.

    Our sacrifices are more than the people killed in combat. By the way, they are “killed” not “died”. The media seems to think “died” is more politically correct. I am fed up with the immortality of what is politically correct.

    Last night, Lou Dobbs spoke of his website and the petition to bring our troops home.

    I rarely sign petitions let lone forward them to others. But, this was an exception and I forwarded it to over 400 people. Few responded, although one took time to remind me that I am stupid. His in depth analysis of my email was short and not so sweet.

    My intent was not to force the issue. Rather, I wanted to ask people to take the time to think, and take the action they deemed appropriate.

    I did it because I asked myself, “How can we, in good conscience, commit our military, their families and loved ones to the sacrifices they face daily without FIRST having a strategy?” It’s like buying a lottery ticket and hoping the outcome will be good.

    What is happening to the Nation that we served?

    Last year, the “silent majority” spoke up. We wrote our “representatives”, some of whom feel their oaths of office were nothing more than a formality. And, what happened? They rejected our pleas for representation and bailed out the big boys. Some of the big boys, in bed with our “representatives” were the ones that provided them home mortgages and other loans at discounted rates. And, our idealistic, holier than thou representatives claimed they didn’t realize the rates they received were lower than the rest of us pay. It is naive to think they are ignorant. No, they’re not ignorant. They’re liars and thieves!

    Are they idiots, or are we the idiots? I have tired of people saying it’s our fault because we vote these morons into office. Yes. The fault is ours but not for voting; it’s because we don’t step forward and offer to make the sacrifices of seeking political roles. The system has been twisted and broken by those who swore to support and defend it.

    Who can blame us? We watch prospective appointees grilled unmercifully by people who wouldn’t know a moral if it hit them in the face. Then, after uncovering facts that show the prospect can’t even file his own taxes that he couldn’t understand or wasn’t responsible for the indiscretions that were challenged, they assume their positions anyway.

    The dirty laundry is exposed. But, just like underwear soils daily, so do the records of these hypocrits.

    Today’s news on CNN featured Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County Arizona. His authority to enforce the law, in regard to illegal immigrants, has been revoked. Sheriff Arpaio has decided to continue to do what he has been doing. There are state laws and some federal laws that he can enforce that aren’t covered by our Dept. of Homeland In-Security.

    In regard to illegal immigration, I learned today that some federal jobs require employees who can also speak Spanish. My hope that English will be declared our national language seems remote.

    Time to get off my soap box. Thanks for helping set the record straight and for providing an opportunity for us to state our cases as well.

    GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!

    George Wurtzinger

    • duffster says:

      George,

      Your comment is twice as long as my article and, worst of all, perhaps better written.

      g

    • Vet613 says:

      “Recently, McNamara died after his expose to cleanse his conscious. While his conscious may have been cleared, his soul wasn’t. Nor has his record. His actions and inactions called for discipline that he never faced. It’s no wonder that many of us were unable to find something good to say when he kicked the bucket.”

      Hello George,

      I beg to differ a bit…I for one found something good to say. As a combat disabled Vietnam veteran, I did have a good thing to say. I said “Thankfully that mother f****r is finally dead.” I only wished he had not gotten off so easily.

      Regards,
      Vet613

  6. MGM-31C says:

    Duff you hit another one out the park keep em coming.

  7. Les Pisrael says:

    Veterans: America is broke. Most of Washington’s politicians become multi-milliomnair$ after 1 1/2 terms. Lot’s of luck in finding such a job,even at 8 bucks an hour.
    I noticed something missing in the article—Israel firsters is America’s main problem. We talk about WWI WWII Gulf war, Iran invasion. Afghanstan Invasion and never question why innocent folks were slaughtered and who’s interest was it all about.
    Our troops in Iraq and Afghanstan are complianing that they have been trained to kill and they are bored stiff because of the put-down and no real person targets.
    After 8 years of sinceless killings,talk is about calling it quits. Not soon enough 4me–our guys are fed up- and want to come home–about time and let’s hope some have fragging on their minds:^/

    • duffster says:

      Les,

      The comment of politicians and money is a classic.  Yes, we seem to have lost our friggin’ minds.

      g

  8. Truthman says:

    Very courageously written, Gordon. It is rare to find someone with your background willing to tell the truth. I love your “calling out” of history. ‘Tis true, the victors write the history books. I discovered what a crock of lies our history is in my search for the truth a few years back. And one of the most amazing things that I’m leaning toward, though haven’t completely bought, is the whole Hitler myth. When you compare the way Saddam Hussein was demonized, much like Ahmadinejad and Hugo Chavez and compare the rhetoric against the facts (which you can find, but must dig for) you see that what all these “brutal dictators” had in common was that they committed to NOT borrowing money from the Elite banks. And the more successful they are or were, the more they were demonized. The wool is pulled tightly over our eyes by the Zionist media and “shock and awe” here we come, yea, baby! You can trace most every conflict the US has had in the last 100 years to the money lenders and the Zionists.

    It is so funny how they’ve convinced us that we are the “good guys.”

    • duffster says:

      Using the term Zionist gets you dumped in the Nazi category quickly.  We now have a Zionist in Chief, Rupert Murdock and his clown puppets standing right along with the children of Hitler’s biggest supporters.

      Jews in America were progressive because they were Communists, they were progressive because they were educated.

      What happened?

      g

  9. Hatchet says:

    Lied to?! Would they?!! Say it isn’t so!! Combine the article above with the fact that there’s a W-80(nuclear warhead) floating around ‘out there’ somewhere, the advent of another 9/11 wouldn’t surprise me in the least. Question is: which geographical location will CNN be filming that mushroom cloud, this time?

  10. 9/11 was an INSIDE JOB says:

    ZERO: A 9-11 INVESTIGATION

    http://dprogram.net/2009/02/24/film-zero-investigation-into-911/

    sadly, it takes an Italian crew to get the truth out, but this is worth watching, it’s factual and to the point.

  11. FreedomLover says:

    Great article. Nice to see some balls for a change. Spot on.

    911 was an inside job. We must overcome this tyrannical government!

  12. steveph says:

    Great article G – Thank you for the significant contribution you are making.
    steveph

  13. John Shriver says:

    Yes, that is my real name and I stand by anything I say. I am also a Vietnam Vet, squid, and damn proud of it. I don’t usually comment on conspiracies but some of the comments require a pumped fist in air, hip-hip-horay and keep them coming. As veterans and Americans, we need to keep digging for the truth and and nailing politicians to the barn door.

    • duffster says:

      John,

      Thank for reading.  Its not time for us to let go.  "They" expect it of us.  We don’t let go of anything.

      Welcome home squid.

      g

  14. Bob Brown says:

    …excellent article…take it one step further…read the truth about the founding of this country and how the founding fathers conspired to create a phony Constitution…all the while we are subjects of the british crown…this is why we have Obama…a british intelligence agent just like his dad…the Revolutionary War was created to put this young country into debt…we borrowed money from france and france even backed us up but King George at the time was King of both England and France…he financed both sides…our so called Constitution was ratified by the states which are corporations…the UNITED STATES is a corporation…we the people never voted for this Constitution…a few years later our illustrious Congress passed a bill making the people liable for the debt to the King of England…to this day portions of property taxes and social security taxes and income taxes continue to support the coffers of the English Throne…the lies began when this country began and the history books written by Zionists keeps the truth hidden from us all and play their games while laughing at us all…i for one am totally disgusted with this pack of elite liars and am not going to take it anymore…keep the flow of truth coming dufster…

    • duffster says:

      Certain people work very hard to keep Zionism safe by hiding behind anti-semitism.  Zionists are only one of a group of many total jerks on the planet…but they are wonderfully effective at screwing things up.

      g

  15. James says:

    Elie Wiesel vs Encyclopaedia Britannica

    Wiesel has been one of the most prominent spokesman for the very sizeable group of people known as Holocaust survivors. [According to Norman Finkelstein of the City University of New York in his book The Holocaust Industry published in the year 2000, ‘The Israeli Prime Minister’s office recently put the number of "living Holocaust survivors" at nearly a million’ (p.83)]. Wiesel has chaired the US Holocaust Memorial Council and has been the recipient of a Congressional Gold Medal and Nobel Peace Prize…
    Time Magazine, March 18 1985:

    ‘How had he survived two of the most notorious killing fields [Auschwitz and Buchenwald] of the century? “I will never know” he says. “I was always weak. I never ate. The slightest wind would turn me over. In Buchenwald they sent 10,000 to their deaths every day. I was always in the last hundred near the gate. They stopped. Why?”

    Compare this with Encyclopaedia Britannica (1993), under ‘Buchenwald’:

    “In World War II it held about 20,000 prisoners.. Although there were no gas chambers, hundreds perished monthly through disease, malnutrition, exhaustion, beatings and executions.”

  16. James says:

    Very Interesting Arithmetic

    Have a look at a typical account by one of the seemingly endless number of survivors: Olga Lengyel’s Five Chimneys: a woman survivor’s true story of Auschwitz (Granada/ Ziff-Davis, 1947, 1972).

    The blurb on the cover of the book quotes the New York Herald-Tribune: “Passionate, tormenting”. Albert Einstein, the promoter of the US construction of the bombs used at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, is quoted as offering “You have done a real service by letting the ones who are now silent and most forgotten (sic) speak.”

    Lengyel says

    ‘After June, 1943, the gas chamber was reserved exclusively for Jews and Gypsies.. Three hundred and sixty corpses every half-hour, which was all the time it took to reduce human flesh to ashes, made 720 per hour, or 17,280 corpses per twenty-four hour shift. And the ovens, with murderous efficiency, functioned day and night. However, one must also reckon the death pits, which could destroy another 8,000 cadavers a day. In round numbers, about 24,000 corpses were handled each day. An admirable production record, one that speaks well for German industry.’ (Paperback edition, pp80-81). [No trace of any remains of or in ‘death pits’ has been found.]

    This implies almost 100,000 corpses per four working days, or a million in 40 days, or six million in 240 days (eight months).

    Could this claim be a misprint?

    Kitty Hart, in spite of her name a Jewish survivor born in Poland, fully confirms these figures:

    ‘Working around the clock, the four units together could dispose of about 18,000 bodies every twenty-four hours, while the open pits coped with a further 8,000 in the same period.’ (p 118; Return to Auschwitz – paperback edition by Granada (1981, 1983).

    According to the cover blurb, ‘The subject of the award-winning Yorkshire television documentary of the same name.’ ‘Both engaging and harrowing…an important addition to the growing holocaust literature, very little of which conveys so courageously both the daily torment and the will to survive’ – Martin Gilbert, The Times.

    Martin Gilbert, indefatigable Jewish campaigner on behalf of the ‘Holocaust’ and biographer of Winston Churchill, adds to the rich flavour and makes his own numerical claims, certainly not without chutzpah:

    In his book Auschwitz and the Allies (1981) he states

    ‘The deliberate attempt to destroy systematically all of Europe’s Jews was unsuspected in the spring and early summer of 1942: the very period during which it was at its most intense, and during which hundreds of thousands of Jews were being gassed every day at Belzec, Chelmo, Sobibor and Treblinka.’ (p.26).

    If we assume a minimum figure of 200,000 per day, this amounts to say a million a five-day working week, or 6 million in six weeks, and this does not include the truly awe-inspiring claims for Auschwitz put forward by Hart and Lengyel with Gilbert’s blessing.

  17. Rod says:

    Duff,

    Thank you for mentioning USS Liberty and the conspiracy to continue the cover up. Readers have to know that one of the commissions to cover up the truth was headed by John S. McCain II. The cover up was continued by his son John S. McCain III. Do a little open minded homework readers.

    • duffster says:

      Rod,

      We remember Senator McCain and what he has done.  Neither the USS Liberty nor Senator "Hanoi" John McCain will be forgotten.

  18. Jim says:

    Great article. I know from experience what it is like to be bamboozled by the US.
    In 1964 I volunteered to serve as a USNR officer in the Dental Corps. Gung-ho stationed with the Marines at Camp Pendelton, then overseas in the P.I. By 1967 I was ready to volunteer to go regular Navy and serve in the Fleet Marines. Totally brainwashed to die for Uncle Sam. Then, thank God, sanity took over. Got out and returned to civilian life. Then I began to read history. By 1969 I had done a 180. No longer brainwashed I became anti war and realized that Uncle Sam lies. Lies about most everything.
    Get the news out to the youngsters. Tell them the truth.

    • duffster says:

      Jim

      More needed to take that path.  More need to do the same today.  Puppets make piss poor citizens in a democracy.

      g

  19. Thoreau says:

    It’s great to hear yet another distinguished military veteran speak out on these issues. Unfortunately, the mass of men lead lives of quiet denial, as well as desperation. Indeed, the light of truth is too bright for most to look into.

    I know you’re taking a lot of heat for your views; but keep up the great work!

  20. nonewithout2d says:

    Do you have irrefutable eveidence regarding your claims? If so, release it so we can begin the treason trials and line up the firing squads. If not, you will be viewed as a “conspiracy nut”.
    Put up or shut up.

    • Joe says:

      Doing a little of your own homework would turn you into a thinker instead of a follower. There has been plenty of evidence proving that 9/11 was nowhere NEAR the way the government’s official version describes it and evem members of the 9/11 commission themselves say they were lied to every step of the way and had the proper information withheld from them that would have allowed them to have accurate findings. It’s YOU that should put up or shut up, in a way that would cause you to actually put an ounce of effort into doing your own research with a few simple google searches. but since you can’t get started on your own and need someone to hold your hand, google “WTC7″ for starters and watch a video of that building coming down by controlled demolition around 5:20 on the afternoon of 9/11. Then search for the video showing the plane crashing into the pentagon. Then search for the photos of the damage to the pentagon taken before the actual roof collapsed showing not only no damage where the wings and tail section would have impacted the building, and not the fact that the initial penetration hole is much too small for it to have been the plane they claim, but the grass is not so much as scraped up where the engines would have tore into the ground if the nosecone center of the plane was where the initial penetration says it should have been.

      People like you are exactly why the 9/11 truth may never come out. You probably also believe the Warren Commission’s findings too.. YOU people are the conspiracy theorists, not those who are awake.

  21. nick chance (Aus) says:

    Nice work mate. Perhaps you could get your pen to investigate the damage HAARP is doing here in the Pacific rim. The HAARP boys can now pinpoint an earthquake and the films of sky/cloud formations immediately prior to the last two very recent earthquakes look very much like HAARP action. Course, that doesn’t fit in with the Al-Gore-ithm rubbish and they wouldn’t be able to produce bloody silly tax revenues on the back of ludicrous claims of global warming.
    Perhaps you could get the authorities to stop boiling the iionosphere. Damned fools!

    • duffster says:

      Nick,

      The US Army declassified its non-lethal weapons docs in 2006.  If they can boil your brain inside your skull at a mile, HAAARP isn’t impossible.

      g

  22. Mick says:

    This article was not about the favorite subject of some of you. It is about 9-11.

    http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/index.asp

    http://www.rense.com/

    http://zippittydodah.blogspot.com/2009/07/serving-armies-of-standing-bankers.html

    The Serving Armies of The Standing Bankers.

    One would be a fool to think that because they could see the delusions and denial of those around them that they were free of some degree of the same. You can’t occupy a human body with its sensory apparatus and be free of it. Even if you were free of delusions about the nature and operations of the manifest world you would not be free of delusions about yourself. Even an awareness of the world is a delusion because it indicates a state of dreaming that doesn’t exist, except as a projection upon a blank screen. The screen is real, the projection is not.

    However, even if the pool a man is drowning in is not real, this does not mean you should not try to pull him out of it. His suffering is real to him, even if he is in denial about it.

    I know that agents of the American and Israeli government were the authors of 9/11. I know this. Many others know this. Then there are those who buy the official line which is impossible. The very fact that no jets were scrambled during the event points to government complicity. The free fall of three buildings into their own footprints and the evidence of nano-thermite prove controlled demolition. Consider these things in a court of law.

    Why then do seemingly intelligent people resist the obvious truth? Let’s give an example of a personality type. Let’s take a man who went to war in Vietnam or Iraq under the illusion that he was fulfilling some patriotic duty to a democratic country. We’ve since learned that the Vietnam War and the Iraq War, like nearly all wars, were the brain child of bankers who initiated them for profit. Let’s consider that the so-called democratic country is not, in fact, a democratic country but a serf nation in fealty to a collection of bankers called The Federal Reserve. All of the representatives of this serf nation are employed by the bank and serve at the pleasure of the bank. John Steinbeck illustrated the nature of the bank in his wonderful novel, “The Grapes of Wrath”. Today you see the reality of ‘the bank’ at work in wars for profit, in foreclosures and corporate thefts as well as the tightening of counterfeit, fiat currency flow into the economy.

    This man who went to Vietnam has bought into his own sense of sacrifice and whatever idea of manhood he thought he got out of it. He even wallows in the injustice of his state, given how the war ended and the public’s view of it. It defines him to himself. He’s listening to Bruce sing, “Glory Days” on the bar stool of his dotage. He went from soldier to college graduate and into a field that relied on the serf nation for his employment. He bought into the system and served the system, continuing to believe that there are good wars and that his nation is a democratic one. He seeks justice in the system believing that the public interest is served. In reality, the poor usually go to jail and the rich stay out or spend their time in a country club. If he looks clearly at it he cannot justify his position with his conscience so he becomes philosophical and interprets everything that happens within a fantasy construct the same way he did with Vietnam.

    Deep inside this man strives to believe that he is a hero. He rocks along with John Fogerty and never hears a word. All across this democratic land, there are men and women like him. They are lawyers and businessmen; politicos, doctors, engineers, teachers and whathaveyou and they all work for the system. The system allows only so much in the way of personal or reactive thought and action. When you’re heavily involved in it and in debt to it, it owns you… no matter what you tell yourself. It owns you. You can’t act outside of it and you can’t speak against it or yonder looms the highway and the sleeping bag under the overpass. This living state of compromise and hypocrisy in the service of a confined, personal survival is untenable to a real person. A real person doesn’t ask themselves the cost of truth. They pay the toll.

    No one wants to have to accept that they went to war or that their children died in wars that existed only for the profit of bankers or the pressures of a foreign nation who control the banks that start the wars. No one wants to be put into the position where they jeopardize their position by speaking out against lies and hypocrisies, so they pretend they don’t exist while the very thing stares them in the face. This is how you die inside. This is how you lose your youthfulness and all of the finer qualities that made you who you think you are but no longer are because these finer qualities will not stay in the heart of a man who is false to himself.

    How is it that a man can think himself brave by going to war for bankers and not find himself capable of going to war for the very essence of what these false wars were presented as being about? All the phony medals and awards of this phony world are useless except in the company of other men and women who lie to themselves. They think they are honest yet they embrace dishonesty at every turn. They think they are brave yet they kneel in a moment before the oppressors of humanity. They think they are useful but they are all bad examples and willing servants of the engines of enslavement. They watch movies about people in dire peril who win the day because that’s how movies go. They think they are one of those people but they are given the same choices as the people in the movie and they turn away. They turn away.

    No man can see the world as it is who does not look closely at himself. No one can know the meaning of anything if they do not know the meaning of themselves.

    It is something to see; people who imagine they are standing forth and speaking the truth while hearing the roar of the crowd. One does not hear the roar of the crowd when one speaks the truth. One hears the rustling of chairs and the sound of people leaving the hall. Why is this? The people who are leaving are not leaving because of the speaker. They are leaving because what is inside them cannot accept the responsibility that comes with hearing the truth and failing to act.

    Such an immensity of lies surround us that it threatens to block out the sun. It has certainly blocked out the light of introspection and objectivity within so many of us. Enshrined lies now have their own laws to protect them. The only time a purported truth needs protection is when it is concealing the lies contained within it. If something is true then further inquiry only proves it so.

    The men from Vietnam and Iraq believe they have sacrificed so much for their country but they fought and died and… in some part survived …conflicts generated by bankers. They are fools to believe otherwise but they do. Having embraced this lie it is not so hard to embrace each succeeding lie. They want to be a part of all they imagined to be true. They go on to fill the positions freely given to those who can accept and perpetuate the lies. They corrupt their own children with these lies after first having corrupted themselves. They corrupt their friends and their neighborhoods. Their churches speak of the deep things in unknown places which honor those who gave their service to God and Country. It was always the bank. It was always about the money; money for the men who did not go to war, money for the men who created the wars for money.

    The greatest of honors are reserved for those who have the courage to see the lies and to admit that they were in service to lies and who then denounced the lies and their own complicity in them. These are the few and the brave who are no longer proud. How often have we seen any man accomplish this before the world and then go on to live the truth he has discovered at the cost of all he once believed to be true?

    It has been truly asked what it profits a man to gain everything and lose himself. There are real heroes among us but their ranks are not composed of the men and women who have served the interests of those who sacrificed them for a lie.

  23. W. T . Mann says:

    If only more Americans could actually think like this guy.

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