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		<title>By: Watching Israel Delegitimize the U.S. &#124; Intifada Palestine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Watching Israel Delegitimize the U.S. &#124; Intifada Palestine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 06:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] persistence can be traced to the strength of a lobby that, to date, has escaped registration as a foreign agent. Those known for their skill at waging war “by way of deception” have routinely betrayed the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Is the “Times Square Terrorist” more Field-based Warfare? &#124; Intifada Palestine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is the “Times Square Terrorist” more Field-based Warfare? &#124; Intifada Palestine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 01:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The control wielded in Washington by the Israel lobby remains little known to mainstream Americans. As our representatives in what was meant to be a representative system of governance, the U.S. Congress now epitomizes “the people in between.” See: How the Israel Lobby Controls U.S. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The control wielded in Washington by the Israel lobby remains little known to mainstream Americans. As our representatives in what was meant to be a representative system of governance, the U.S. Congress now epitomizes “the people in between.” See: How the Israel Lobby Controls U.S. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Is the “Times Square Terrorist” more Field-based Warfare? &#8211; Dark Politricks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is the “Times Square Terrorist” more Field-based Warfare? &#8211; Dark Politricks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 10:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The control wielded in Washington by the Israel lobby remains little known to mainstream Americans. As our representatives in what was meant to be a representative system of governance, the U.S. Congress now epitomizes “the people in between.” See: How the Israel Lobby Controls U.S. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Is the &#8220;Times Square Terrorist&#8221; more Field-based Warfare? : Veterans Today</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is the &#8220;Times Square Terrorist&#8221; more Field-based Warfare? : Veterans Today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 01:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The control wielded in Washington by the Israel lobby remains little known to mainstream Americans. As our representatives in what was meant to be a representative system of governance, the U.S. Congress now epitomizes “the people in between.” See: How the Israel Lobby Controls U.S. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Funded by UAE</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/17/dancing-to-our-israeli-masters/comment-page-1/#comment-39989</link>
		<dc:creator>Funded by UAE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 03:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I strongly urge everyone to read this article by Diana West. Iraq will never be a so called &quot;Bastion of Democracy&quot; after the departure of US Forces. Iraq is already in bed with the Islamic world that is intent in the establishment of a World Wide Caliphate as demonstrated by her close relationship with Iran and her votes in the UN and elsewhere.

We must face stop blinding ourselves to this truth. If the Islamic Chairman Obama continues to withdraw from Iraq and follows through with the withdrawal of forces from Afghanistan in 18 months we will in fact surrender the Middle east to Radical Islam and the Caliphate.

Our only recourse is to maintain substantial forces in both countries for a long period of time or face a greater war with Islam, that will most defiantly include sabotage attacks in America, England, Europe, Australia, etc by the Islamic 5th Columns that have already established themselves in these nations. The Big Question here is what of Russia and China when this occurs?? I have no answer except that like the Korean War and the Vietnam War they will supply the enemy with arms and support.

This is a Dark Future for America and the World but one we must face up to and take action to thwart today, worse still is that the Obamanation Administration and the Marxist Controlled Congress will not act do to their desire to convert America into the USSR of America - who&#039;s side are they on? ? ?

Source and complete article:

http://townhall.com/columnists/DianaWest/2009/12/29/the_surge_and_s...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I strongly urge everyone to read this article by Diana West. Iraq will never be a so called &#8220;Bastion of Democracy&#8221; after the departure of US Forces. Iraq is already in bed with the Islamic world that is intent in the establishment of a World Wide Caliphate as demonstrated by her close relationship with Iran and her votes in the UN and elsewhere.</p>
<p>We must face stop blinding ourselves to this truth. If the Islamic Chairman Obama continues to withdraw from Iraq and follows through with the withdrawal of forces from Afghanistan in 18 months we will in fact surrender the Middle east to Radical Islam and the Caliphate.</p>
<p>Our only recourse is to maintain substantial forces in both countries for a long period of time or face a greater war with Islam, that will most defiantly include sabotage attacks in America, England, Europe, Australia, etc by the Islamic 5th Columns that have already established themselves in these nations. The Big Question here is what of Russia and China when this occurs?? I have no answer except that like the Korean War and the Vietnam War they will supply the enemy with arms and support.</p>
<p>This is a Dark Future for America and the World but one we must face up to and take action to thwart today, worse still is that the Obamanation Administration and the Marxist Controlled Congress will not act do to their desire to convert America into the USSR of America &#8211; who&#8217;s side are they on? ? ?</p>
<p>Source and complete article:</p>
<p><a href="http://townhall.com/columnists/DianaWest/2009/12/29/the_surge_and_s.." rel="nofollow">http://townhall.com/columnists/DianaWest/2009/12/29/the_surge_and_s..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Molchany</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/17/dancing-to-our-israeli-masters/comment-page-1/#comment-33516</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Molchany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting that those who attack Jeff Gates do so by attacking him personally rather than by responding to the facts and research he has provided.  Melbfreaky&#039;s juvenile comments can only result in blowback for him.

They are unable to do so and resort to the worn-out attempts to intimidate by calling him or anyone else who criticizes Israel or the Israel lobby as being anti-Semitic.  That doesn&#039;t work anymore.

As for Israel&#039;s fear of its neighbors, it is quite the reverse.  Nearly every war in the Middle East, including the 1948 war was initiated by Israeli attacks intended to steal more land.  The bombardment and devastation of Gaza followed Israel&#039;s full breach of its June 19, 2009 truce with Hamas; Hamas complied as is evidenced by Israel&#039;s own intelligence reports; Israel did not. 

In a joint study by Tel Aviv University and a European University, it was Israel who breached 79 percent of ceasefire agreements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting that those who attack Jeff Gates do so by attacking him personally rather than by responding to the facts and research he has provided.  Melbfreaky&#8217;s juvenile comments can only result in blowback for him.</p>
<p>They are unable to do so and resort to the worn-out attempts to intimidate by calling him or anyone else who criticizes Israel or the Israel lobby as being anti-Semitic.  That doesn&#8217;t work anymore.</p>
<p>As for Israel&#8217;s fear of its neighbors, it is quite the reverse.  Nearly every war in the Middle East, including the 1948 war was initiated by Israeli attacks intended to steal more land.  The bombardment and devastation of Gaza followed Israel&#8217;s full breach of its June 19, 2009 truce with Hamas; Hamas complied as is evidenced by Israel&#8217;s own intelligence reports; Israel did not. </p>
<p>In a joint study by Tel Aviv University and a European University, it was Israel who breached 79 percent of ceasefire agreements.</p>
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		<title>By: MELBFREAKY</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/17/dancing-to-our-israeli-masters/comment-page-1/#comment-32445</link>
		<dc:creator>MELBFREAKY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff Gates =Cookoo for cocoa puffs...........</description>
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		<title>By: Robert Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/17/dancing-to-our-israeli-masters/comment-page-1/#comment-31174</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just don&#039;t understand all the anti-semitism right now on this site.  The attack on the USS LIBERTY was a travisty, and justice needs to be served, but when the US Navy tells sailors to keep quite about the incident, and the records of Board of inquiry are not available, and when the CIC at that time orders the return of American jets back to their carrier while the attack still continues leaves a lot of unanswered questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just don&#8217;t understand all the anti-semitism right now on this site.  The attack on the USS LIBERTY was a travisty, and justice needs to be served, but when the US Navy tells sailors to keep quite about the incident, and the records of Board of inquiry are not available, and when the CIC at that time orders the return of American jets back to their carrier while the attack still continues leaves a lot of unanswered questions.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Gates</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/17/dancing-to-our-israeli-masters/comment-page-1/#comment-28690</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Gates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep in mind that the U.S. is enabling (and U.S. taxpayers are paying for) every bit of this -- all of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep in mind that the U.S. is enabling (and U.S. taxpayers are paying for) every bit of this &#8212; all of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Gates</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/17/dancing-to-our-israeli-masters/comment-page-1/#comment-28689</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Gates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Norman Finkelstein&#039;s book The Holocaust Industry is a must-read. See www.normanfinkelstein.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Norman Finkelstein&#8217;s book The Holocaust Industry is a must-read. See <a href="http://www.normanfinkelstein.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.normanfinkelstein.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Gates</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/17/dancing-to-our-israeli-masters/comment-page-1/#comment-28688</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Gates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your service - and that of your family. Unfortunately, a &quot;consensus&quot; emerged from academia that led us to agree that financial freedom is a proxy for personal freedom. Chapter 6 in Guilt By Association explains the fundamentals of finance to show that widely shared belief was certain to do just what it&#039;s done: concentrate wealth and income at record rates, ensuring the creation of oligarchies worldwide and thereby undermining both democracies and markets -- all in the name of freedom. Here&#039;s an excerpt titled
Market Theory versus Financial Reality ---

Regardless of the label put on “economics,” broad-based purchasing power (demand) remains essential for healthy markets, just as broad-based ownership remains indispensable for healthy democracies.  By embracing a closed system of finance certain to concentrate both wealth and income, democracies are endangered and markets undermined. That’s how the “Washington” consensus—with its roots in “Chicago” economics—put the health of communities worldwide at risk even as people sought to recover from the perils of state ownership that accompanied their belief in an earlier version of “economics.” 

It is simply not credible to suggest that financial sophisticates failed to grasp the results certain to accompany these closed system dynamics. Nor is it plausible to propose that banks and investment banks failed to comprehend the foreseeable impact of supply-side economics. For example, Reagan Treasury Secretary Don Regan was chief executive of Merrill Lynch before he led the advocacy team for Reaganomics.

As this closed system became the global norm behind a façade of privatization, LBOs expanded in size and geographic reach, and oligarchs emerged worldwide. By charging a 2% management fee and pocketing 20% of any increase in value, private equity and hedge fund managers, along with bank operatives (such as Citigroup CEO Sanford Weill), joined the ranks of the super-rich. The closest analogy to this financial phenomenon is the casino skim.  

The foreseeable trends now expanding rapidly to global scale include:

•	As referenced earlier, the wealth of the Forbes 400 richest Americans grew by $290 billion in 2006 alone, for a combined wealth of $1.54 trillion in 2007.
•	By 2008 the minimum personal wealth for inclusion on the Forbes list was $1.3 billion, up form $91 million in 1982.
•	The average CEO of a large U.S. company was paid $10.8 million in 2006 —364 times the pay of one of their employees, or as much pay each day as an employee takes home in a year. 

The merger of finance and politics continues to gain momentum. In April 2008, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts &amp; Co. (KKR), a private equity firm, announced that Ken Mehlman, former chairman of the Republican National Committee, had become head of global public affairs, a new position for a firm that has completed more than $400 billion in LBOs.  Manager of G.W. Bush’s 2004 re-election campaign, Mehlman now serves as one of John McCain’s top fundraisers in the financial sector.  

Only as this account was nearing completion did it become clear what agenda the private equity firms meant to pursue through Mehlman’s political connections. In this latest pump-and-dump, the major firms are prepared to exploit the desperation of ailing banks and concerned regulators by investing huge amounts in the nation’s largest banks. Before doing so, however, they want legislative and regulatory exemptions from rules designed to prevent conflicts of interest and the abuses known to accompany such concentrations of economic power. 

As record-breaking public-sector debt was incurred to fund record-breaking accumulations of private-sector wealth, a crisis in infrastructure emerged nationwide as roads, bridges, schools, water treatment and such suffered from financial neglect. With the American Society of Civil Engineers estimating $1.6 trillion needed over the next five years, KKR, Lehman Brothers and other top-tier private equity firms are prepared to profit from the crisis. 

As the rich grew vastly richer and the people in between skimmed hundreds of billions of dollars, household income stagnated. For the bulk of Americans, weekly earnings in 2007 were the same as in 2000—despite an 18% growth in productivity. Americans work two weeks longer each year than they did in the 1970s, and 350 hours longer per year than Europeans. The income of men in their 30s is 12% lower than it was three decades ago. Households led by someone 65 or under made an average 3.4 percent less in 2007 than in 2000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your service &#8211; and that of your family. Unfortunately, a &#8220;consensus&#8221; emerged from academia that led us to agree that financial freedom is a proxy for personal freedom. Chapter 6 in Guilt By Association explains the fundamentals of finance to show that widely shared belief was certain to do just what it&#8217;s done: concentrate wealth and income at record rates, ensuring the creation of oligarchies worldwide and thereby undermining both democracies and markets &#8212; all in the name of freedom. Here&#8217;s an excerpt titled<br />
Market Theory versus Financial Reality &#8212;</p>
<p>Regardless of the label put on “economics,” broad-based purchasing power (demand) remains essential for healthy markets, just as broad-based ownership remains indispensable for healthy democracies.  By embracing a closed system of finance certain to concentrate both wealth and income, democracies are endangered and markets undermined. That’s how the “Washington” consensus—with its roots in “Chicago” economics—put the health of communities worldwide at risk even as people sought to recover from the perils of state ownership that accompanied their belief in an earlier version of “economics.” </p>
<p>It is simply not credible to suggest that financial sophisticates failed to grasp the results certain to accompany these closed system dynamics. Nor is it plausible to propose that banks and investment banks failed to comprehend the foreseeable impact of supply-side economics. For example, Reagan Treasury Secretary Don Regan was chief executive of Merrill Lynch before he led the advocacy team for Reaganomics.</p>
<p>As this closed system became the global norm behind a façade of privatization, LBOs expanded in size and geographic reach, and oligarchs emerged worldwide. By charging a 2% management fee and pocketing 20% of any increase in value, private equity and hedge fund managers, along with bank operatives (such as Citigroup CEO Sanford Weill), joined the ranks of the super-rich. The closest analogy to this financial phenomenon is the casino skim.  </p>
<p>The foreseeable trends now expanding rapidly to global scale include:</p>
<p>•	As referenced earlier, the wealth of the Forbes 400 richest Americans grew by $290 billion in 2006 alone, for a combined wealth of $1.54 trillion in 2007.<br />
•	By 2008 the minimum personal wealth for inclusion on the Forbes list was $1.3 billion, up form $91 million in 1982.<br />
•	The average CEO of a large U.S. company was paid $10.8 million in 2006 —364 times the pay of one of their employees, or as much pay each day as an employee takes home in a year. </p>
<p>The merger of finance and politics continues to gain momentum. In April 2008, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts &#038; Co. (KKR), a private equity firm, announced that Ken Mehlman, former chairman of the Republican National Committee, had become head of global public affairs, a new position for a firm that has completed more than $400 billion in LBOs.  Manager of G.W. Bush’s 2004 re-election campaign, Mehlman now serves as one of John McCain’s top fundraisers in the financial sector.  </p>
<p>Only as this account was nearing completion did it become clear what agenda the private equity firms meant to pursue through Mehlman’s political connections. In this latest pump-and-dump, the major firms are prepared to exploit the desperation of ailing banks and concerned regulators by investing huge amounts in the nation’s largest banks. Before doing so, however, they want legislative and regulatory exemptions from rules designed to prevent conflicts of interest and the abuses known to accompany such concentrations of economic power. </p>
<p>As record-breaking public-sector debt was incurred to fund record-breaking accumulations of private-sector wealth, a crisis in infrastructure emerged nationwide as roads, bridges, schools, water treatment and such suffered from financial neglect. With the American Society of Civil Engineers estimating $1.6 trillion needed over the next five years, KKR, Lehman Brothers and other top-tier private equity firms are prepared to profit from the crisis. </p>
<p>As the rich grew vastly richer and the people in between skimmed hundreds of billions of dollars, household income stagnated. For the bulk of Americans, weekly earnings in 2007 were the same as in 2000—despite an 18% growth in productivity. Americans work two weeks longer each year than they did in the 1970s, and 350 hours longer per year than Europeans. The income of men in their 30s is 12% lower than it was three decades ago. Households led by someone 65 or under made an average 3.4 percent less in 2007 than in 2000.</p>
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		<title>By: duffster</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/17/dancing-to-our-israeli-masters/comment-page-1/#comment-28603</link>
		<dc:creator>duffster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;SMAJ&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;While we are playing with this, we are also becoming increasingly dependent on Iran to act in concert with Pakistan as broker for peace in Afghanistan.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thus..we ain&#039;t attakin&#039; nobody.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;g&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SMAJ</p>
<p>While we are playing with this, we are also becoming increasingly dependent on Iran to act in concert with Pakistan as broker for peace in Afghanistan.</p>
<p>Thus..we ain&#8217;t attakin&#8217; nobody.</p>
<p>g</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Gates</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/17/dancing-to-our-israeli-masters/comment-page-1/#comment-28456</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Gates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Bons --

I am an anti-anti-semite. Some of the strongest supporters have been moderate Jews thrilled that finally an analysis is in print that separates the extremists who have long posed such a problem for the broader Jewish community by making them appear...guilty by association.

Suggest you read Guilt By Association as it makes those key distinctions while also pinpointing HOW these extremists induced us to war in Iraq with false, flawed and fixed intelligence. The back cover promises to make treason transparent. I would value your appraisal of that claim AFTER you read the book. What happens when Americans awaken to the fact that our blood and treasure are being expended in the Middle East for the expansionist policies of Greater Israel?

Excerpts are posted on www.criminalstate.com along with numerous analyses.

Thanks for taking the time to comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Bons &#8211;</p>
<p>I am an anti-anti-semite. Some of the strongest supporters have been moderate Jews thrilled that finally an analysis is in print that separates the extremists who have long posed such a problem for the broader Jewish community by making them appear&#8230;guilty by association.</p>
<p>Suggest you read Guilt By Association as it makes those key distinctions while also pinpointing HOW these extremists induced us to war in Iraq with false, flawed and fixed intelligence. The back cover promises to make treason transparent. I would value your appraisal of that claim AFTER you read the book. What happens when Americans awaken to the fact that our blood and treasure are being expended in the Middle East for the expansionist policies of Greater Israel?</p>
<p>Excerpts are posted on <a href="http://www.criminalstate.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.criminalstate.com</a> along with numerous analyses.</p>
<p>Thanks for taking the time to comment.</p>
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		<title>By: SMajGrotto</title>
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		<dc:creator>SMajGrotto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do know this. Israel is not going on bended knee to Obama to seek permission to go after Iran&#039; attempt to make Israel into a parking lot. I would not be a bit surprised if the new bunker bombs are already in Israel&#039;s arsenal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do know this. Israel is not going on bended knee to Obama to seek permission to go after Iran&#8217; attempt to make Israel into a parking lot. I would not be a bit surprised if the new bunker bombs are already in Israel&#8217;s arsenal.</p>
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		<title>By: Notorious Kelly</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/17/dancing-to-our-israeli-masters/comment-page-1/#comment-28369</link>
		<dc:creator>Notorious Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There have been many holocausts, but we only seem to ever hear about One.

And hear about it we do.

Frankly, I&#039;m bored with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There have been many holocausts, but we only seem to ever hear about One.</p>
<p>And hear about it we do.</p>
<p>Frankly, I&#8217;m bored with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Gates</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/17/dancing-to-our-israeli-masters/comment-page-1/#comment-28361</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Gates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get it. How can you choose not to review the available facts and simultaneously suggest that the facts do not support what is charged? What am I missing here?

Again, I suggest you read Guilt By Association with its 80 pages of endnotes. Then wade in with documented facts rather than ill-informed beliefs, consensus opinions and yet another rendition of generally accepted truths.

If you can&#039;t deal with confirmed facts, that&#039;s fine. Rest assured you are in distinguished company. You can count yourself allied with many of those failed in their duty when they took an oath to defend this nation based on facts (and the rule of law) rather than what they choose to believe is true. 

That, in a nutshell, is how our national security was hollowed out--from within.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get it. How can you choose not to review the available facts and simultaneously suggest that the facts do not support what is charged? What am I missing here?</p>
<p>Again, I suggest you read Guilt By Association with its 80 pages of endnotes. Then wade in with documented facts rather than ill-informed beliefs, consensus opinions and yet another rendition of generally accepted truths.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t deal with confirmed facts, that&#8217;s fine. Rest assured you are in distinguished company. You can count yourself allied with many of those failed in their duty when they took an oath to defend this nation based on facts (and the rule of law) rather than what they choose to believe is true. </p>
<p>That, in a nutshell, is how our national security was hollowed out&#8211;from within.</p>
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		<title>By: Duffster</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/17/dancing-to-our-israeli-masters/comment-page-1/#comment-28350</link>
		<dc:creator>Duffster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 09:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dave F.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is a terms of service violation.&#160; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Excuse me for adding this, but the writer of the column is Jeff Gates.&#160; Tom is an Editor here.&#160; Please learn to express yourself in a manner consistent&#160;with respect you ask for yourself.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You may attack ideas, any ideas, but not any individuals.&#160; It is my hope that you are a person of honor and courage that we should respect.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Tom Barnes is certainly that kind of individual as is Jeff Gates.&#160; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;g&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Senior Editor&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave F.</p>
<p>This is a terms of service violation.&nbsp; </p>
<p>Excuse me for adding this, but the writer of the column is Jeff Gates.&nbsp; Tom is an Editor here.&nbsp; Please learn to express yourself in a manner consistent&nbsp;with respect you ask for yourself.</p>
<p>You may attack ideas, any ideas, but not any individuals.&nbsp; It is my hope that you are a person of honor and courage that we should respect.</p>
<p>Tom Barnes is certainly that kind of individual as is Jeff Gates.&nbsp; </p>
<p>g</p>
<p>Senior Editor</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Barnes</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/17/dancing-to-our-israeli-masters/comment-page-1/#comment-28347</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 08:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dave F:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lets go through the drill here.&#160; First of all, we do not like monikers here.&#160; Use your real name.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Second of all, we have no personal attacks on this site.&#160; This is your first warning.&#160; I will give you one or two more and then ask the editorial board to ban your IP if you continue to personally attack any writer or commenter on this site.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We are adults on this site.&#160; We do not personally attack anyone.&#160; We use the basic rules of any high school debate team in the country on this site.&#160; If you personally attack someone who you are debating, you are disqualified.&#160; Then you are warned, if you do it much more after that, you get banned.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You are now warned.&#160; Next time you write, use your full name so that we can hold you personally accountable for what you say here.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is your first warning for a personal attack&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;CWO3 Tom Barnes, USCG (Ret.)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave F:</p>
<p>Lets go through the drill here.&nbsp; First of all, we do not like monikers here.&nbsp; Use your real name.</p>
<p>Second of all, we have no personal attacks on this site.&nbsp; This is your first warning.&nbsp; I will give you one or two more and then ask the editorial board to ban your IP if you continue to personally attack any writer or commenter on this site.</p>
<p>We are adults on this site.&nbsp; We do not personally attack anyone.&nbsp; We use the basic rules of any high school debate team in the country on this site.&nbsp; If you personally attack someone who you are debating, you are disqualified.&nbsp; Then you are warned, if you do it much more after that, you get banned.</p>
<p>You are now warned.&nbsp; Next time you write, use your full name so that we can hold you personally accountable for what you say here.</p>
<p>This is your first warning for a personal attack</p>
<p>CWO3 Tom Barnes, USCG (Ret.)</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Barnes</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/17/dancing-to-our-israeli-masters/comment-page-1/#comment-28346</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 08:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Gemtlemen:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Go back and read over your comments attached to my comments here.&#160; The anti-Israeli poison is dripping off your comments.&#160; That is not reason or debate or anything else of the sort.&#160; It is hatred.&#160; That much is obvious.&#160; Why?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What is behind all this anti-Israeli stuff?&#160; And by the way, how can ANY of us verify the comments you have just made of Israeli agents sleeping with Presidents, of Clinton allowing a super pro-Israeli agenda to poison his cabinet, etc.&#160; This is all conspiracy theory stuff that none of us have ever heard about and none of us can prove.&#160; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You guys are conspiracy theorists.&#160; That is not scholarship.&#160; Certainly you know this!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What is going on here?&#160; What is behind all this anti-Israeli stuff?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You need to come clean.&#160; What are your motivations in writing this stuff?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;CWO3 Tom Barnes, USCG (Ret.)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gemtlemen:</p>
<p>Go back and read over your comments attached to my comments here.&nbsp; The anti-Israeli poison is dripping off your comments.&nbsp; That is not reason or debate or anything else of the sort.&nbsp; It is hatred.&nbsp; That much is obvious.&nbsp; Why?</p>
<p>What is behind all this anti-Israeli stuff?&nbsp; And by the way, how can ANY of us verify the comments you have just made of Israeli agents sleeping with Presidents, of Clinton allowing a super pro-Israeli agenda to poison his cabinet, etc.&nbsp; This is all conspiracy theory stuff that none of us have ever heard about and none of us can prove.&nbsp; </p>
<p>You guys are conspiracy theorists.&nbsp; That is not scholarship.&nbsp; Certainly you know this!</p>
<p>What is going on here?&nbsp; What is behind all this anti-Israeli stuff?</p>
<p>You need to come clean.&nbsp; What are your motivations in writing this stuff?</p>
<p>CWO3 Tom Barnes, USCG (Ret.)</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Bons</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/17/dancing-to-our-israeli-masters/comment-page-1/#comment-28344</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Bons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 07:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Jewish American, and a veteran I find Mr. Gates perspective to be bordering on anti semetic....Mr. gates while I honor your service as a fellow combat veteran however....I couldn&#039;t disagree with  you more. As a jew, AND as an American I have wittnessed what this kind of mind set does to people who believe this kind of (dare I say) neo nazi drivel. and I find it to be entirely offensive. Mr Gates thank you for showing your &quot;true colors&quot;. And what I disturbing is that there are so many writers on this site that lean so far to the left. As a veteran of the Gulf War and OIF I can say personally they don&#039;t represent my views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Jewish American, and a veteran I find Mr. Gates perspective to be bordering on anti semetic&#8230;.Mr. gates while I honor your service as a fellow combat veteran however&#8230;.I couldn&#8217;t disagree with  you more. As a jew, AND as an American I have wittnessed what this kind of mind set does to people who believe this kind of (dare I say) neo nazi drivel. and I find it to be entirely offensive. Mr Gates thank you for showing your &#8220;true colors&#8221;. And what I disturbing is that there are so many writers on this site that lean so far to the left. As a veteran of the Gulf War and OIF I can say personally they don&#8217;t represent my views.</p>
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