OBL: DEAD OR ALIVE
October 22, 2009 by Gordon Duff · 4 Comments
Osama Bin Laden: Dead or Alive?
Submitted by David Ray Griffin
Is Osama bin Laden still alive? I have dealt with this question in a recent little book entitled Osama bin Laden: Dead or Alive?1 The present essay summarizes the main points of this book.2 Since the transference of power from the Bush administration to that of the Barack Obama administration, the question of whether bin Laden is dead or alive has become more important.
Although George W. Bush famously said that he wanted Osama bin Laden "dead or alive," he made clear that he was not serious about this. Besides stating that he was not concerned about bin Laden, he demonstrated this by diverting most of America’s military resources to Iraq. Bush could likely be so unconcerned about bin Laden because he knew that, besides the fact that bin Laden had nothing to do with 9/11,3 he was probably dead anyway.
I do not know what President Obama and his people think about these matters, but their rhetoric presupposes that bin Laden was responsible for 9/11 and is still alive.
In November 2008, for example, a Washington Post story said:
"President-elect Barack Obama . . . intends to renew the U.S. commitment to the hunt for Osama bin Laden. . . . ‘This is our enemy,’ one adviser said of bin Laden, ‘and he should be our principal target.’"4
In his White House address of March 27, 2009, President Obama said:
"[A]l Qaeda and its allies – the terrorists who planned and supported the 9/11 attacks – are in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Multiple intelligence estimates have warned that al Qaeda is actively planning attacks on the U.S. homeland from its safe-haven in Pakistan. . . . [A]l Qaeda and its extremist allies have moved across the border to the remote areas of the Pakistani frontier. This almost certainly includes al Qaeda’s leadership: Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri."5
Obama has appealed regularly to these intelligence estimates, which have invariably claimed that bin Laden is hiding in Pakistan, somewhere along the Afghan border. This claim has been used to justify the extension of US military activity into Pakistan, with the result that people now speak of the "AfPak war."
One way to argue against this war is to point out that, if these intelligence experts do not even know whether bin Laden is alive, they certainly cannot know where he is and what he is thinking.
There are, to be sure, other good arguments against this war, and many critics are making these arguments. But to point out that bin Laden is almost certainly dead provides an argument that goes to the heart of the war’s publically articulated rationale.
Of course, another way to argue against this war would be to point out that bin Laden had nothing to do with 9/11. But even though our own FBI has admitted that it "has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11," a large part of the American population has been conditioned to reject all revisionism about 9/11 out of hand. As we saw recently with "the Van Jones affair," people are considered unfit for public service if they once signed a document suggesting that the official account of 9/11 might not be fully true.
My little bin Laden book is primarily for people who, besides assuming that Osama bin Laden was responsible for the 9/11 attacks, also believe that the AfPak war is justifiable because we need to prevent him from planning another attack. Many such people will turn against the war if they become aware of the fact that the publicly accessible evidence at the present time leads to the conclusion that bin Laden is probably dead.
The evidence for this conclusion is of two types: objective evidence and testimonies.
Objective Evidence that Bin Laden is Dead
The objective evidence includes the following facts:
First, up until mid-December 2001, the CIA had regularly been intercepting messages between bin Laden and his people. At that time, however, the messages suddenly stopped, and the CIA has never again intercepted a message to or from bin Laden.
Second, on December 26, 2001, a Pakistani newspaper published a story reporting that bin Laden had died in mid-December, adding:
"A prominent official in the Afghan Taleban movement . . . stated . . . that he had himself attended the funeral of bin Laden and saw his face prior to burial."
Third, bin Laden evidently had kidney disease. He reportedly had been treated for it in the American Hospital in Dubai in July 2001, at which time he ordered two dialysis machines to take home. And on the night before the 9/11 attacks, CBS News reported, he was being given kidney dialysis treatment in a hospital in Pakistan.6 In January of 2001, moreover, Dr. Sanjay Gupta said – based on a video of bin Laden that had been made in either late November or early December of 2001 – that he appeared to be in the last stages of kidney failure.
Fourth, In July of 2002, CNN reported that bin Laden’s bodyguards had been captured in February of that year, adding: "Sources believe that if the bodyguards were captured away from bin Laden, it is likely the most-wanted man in the world is dead."
Fifth, the United States has since 2001 offered a $25 million reward for any information leading to the capture or killing of bin Laden. But this reward offer has produced no such information, even though Pakistan has many desperately poor people, only about half of whom, evidently, have been supportive of bin Laden.
Testimonial Evidence that Bin Laden Is Dead
In addition to this objective evidence, we had considerable testimony in 2002, from people in better position to know than the average person, that bin Laden was dead, or probably so. These people included:
- President Musharraf of Pakistan;
- Dale Watson, the head of the FBI’s counterterrorism unit;
- Oliver North, who said: "I’m certain that Osama is dead. . . And so are all the other guys I stay in touch with";
- President Hamid Karzai of Afghanistan;
- Sources within Israeli intelligence, who said that any new messages from bin Laden were "probably fabrications";
- Sources within Pakistani intelligence, who "confirmed the death of . . . Osama Bin Laden" and "attributed the reasons behind Washington’s hiding news on the death of Osama Bin Laden to the desire of the hawks of the American administration to use the issue of al-Qaida and international terrorism to invade Iraq."
For this reason, perhaps, the stories about the demise of bin Laden largely came to an end in the latter part of 2002, when the United States was gearing up for its attack on Iraq. From then until now, there have been few such stories.
Recently, however, two former intelligence officers have spoken out. In October 2008, former CIA case officer Robert Baer, during an interview on National Public Radio, suggested in passing that bin Laden was no longer among the living. When the interviewer asked Baer about this comment, he said: "Of course he’s dead."
In March of 2009, former Foreign Service officer Angelo Codevilla published an essay in the American Spectator entitled "Osama bin Elvis." Explaining his title, Codevilla wrote: "Seven years after Osama bin Laden’s last verifiable appearance among the living, there is more evidence for Elvis’s presence among us than for his."
Codavilla’s article is excellent, but it has one flaw. Benazir Bhutto, being interviewed by David Frost in 2007, referred to Omar Sheikh as "the man who murdered Osama bin Laden." Codevilla cited this statement as further evidence that bin Laden is dead. But Bhutto had simply misspoken: She had meant to say "the man who murdered Daniel Pearl," which is the standard way of referring to Omar Sheikh. That she misspoke was shown the next day, when she told CNN, "I don’t think General Musharaf personally knows where Osama bin Laden is, and again ten days later, speaking to NPR, when she reported having asked a policeman assigned to guard her house, "Shouldn’t you be looking for Osama bin Laden?" This flaw aside, Codevilla’s article provides good support for his claim that the widespread belief in bin Laden’s continued existence is not backed up by evidence.
What about the "Messages from Osama bin Laden"?
Many people, of course, assume that there is a lot of evidence that bin Laden is still alive, namely, the dozens of audio and video tape "messages from bin Laden" that have appeared since 2001. These tapes would provide good evidence, however, only if they were authentic. The longest chapter of my book presents evidence that they are not.
I show, in the first place, that the technology for making fake audio and video tapes is now so advanced that even experts can be fooled. So although the press regularly tells us that intelligence agencies have authenticated the latest bin Laden tape, it is virtually impossible to prove a tape to be authentic. Even if the voice is genuinely that of bin Laden, the existence of voice-morphing technology means that this provides no proof that bin Laden himself made those statements. The existence of the technology of video morphing means that it is would be difficult to prove the authenticity of a so-called Osama bin Laden video tape.
It is sometimes possible, however, to prove a tape to be inauthentic. For example: If the person hired to play bin Laden writes with his right hand; if he is heavier and darker than bin Laden was in an undoubtedly authentic tape made about the same time; if he has fatter hands and shorter fingers; if his nose has a different shape. And if, in discussing the Twin Towers, he says that the fire melted the steel, whereas the real bin Laden would have known that a building fire cannot melt steel. I am speaking here of the video that was allegedly found by US troops in Jalalabad, Afghanistan, in November 2001, which is widely known as the "bin Laden confession video."
Also obviously fabricated, I would say, was the "October Surprise" video, which appeared on October 29, 2004, just in time to help George W. Bush get reelected. One clue that it was a fake, aside from its timing, is provided by its language. Bin Laden’s own messages were saturated with references to Allah and the Prophet Mohammed. But in this October Surprise video, Allah was mentioned rarely and the only "Mohammad" mentioned was Mohamed Atta. Also, whereas undoubtedly authentic bin Laden messages portrayed worldly events as caused or at least permitted by Allah, the speaker in this October Surprise video gave a purely secular account of events, even telling the American people: "Your security is in your own hands."
The most obviously faked video is one that, appearing in 2007, was identical to the October Surprise video of 2004, except that the bin Laden figure now had a completely black beard, leading me to call it the video from "Blackbeard the Terrorist." Although pundits tried, with straight faces, to explain why bin Laden might have dyed his beard, or put on a fake one, this video was best treated with the respect it deserved by a YouTube video featuring an actor wearing a very long and very black beard, who said:
Hello, long time no see. It is me, Osama bin Laden. And no, this not to be confused with just-for-men hair color commercial. . . . I make this video to prove to world that me still alive and kicking.
This video is very funny. But it is, of course, not funny if fake bin Laden videos were used to justify the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and if they are still being used to justify the AfPak war, which continues to kill dozens if not hundreds of innocent people each week, including women and children attending weddings and funerals.
Conclusion
If my little book, by showing that bin Laden has probably long been dead, can help shorten this war, it will have served its main purpose.
Its other main point, to which a separate chapter is devoted, is that these fake bin Laden tapes appear to be simply one part of an extensive propaganda operation, in which US military intelligence is using tax dollars – illegally – to propagandize the American public, with the aim of furthering the militarization of America and its foreign policy.
I hope my little book will stimulate the 9/11 truth movement, along with the anti-war movement in general, to take on more fully the task of exposing this propaganda effort, to which a growing portion of our tax dollars is being devoted.
Notes
1. David Ray Griffin, Osama bin Laden: Dead or Alive? (Northampton, MA: Olive Branch [Interlink Books], 2009). Except when otherwise indicated, the references for all quoted material can be found in this book.
2. This is a slightly revised version, with notes added, of an essay that was first published at Global Research, October 9, 2009 (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15601), which in turn was a slightly revised version of a lecture presented at the 9/11 Film Festival at Grand Lake Theater, Oakland, California, September 9, 2009.
3. For evidence that the 9/11 attacks were not authorized by bin Laden or carried out by al-Qaeda operatives, see David Ray Griffin, The New Pearl Harbor Revisited: 9/11, the Cover-Up, and the Exposé (Northampton, MA: Olive Branch [Interlink Books], 2008).
4. As indicated in note 1, the reference for this quotation, along with all the other quotations for which no reference is given in this essay, can be found in Osama bin Laden: Dead or Alive?
5. "Remarks by the President on the New Strategy for Afghanistan and Pakistan," The White House, March 27, 2009 (http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-by-the-President-on-a-New-Strategy-for-Afghanistan-and-Pakistan).
6. For the video, see "911 Bin Laden at Rawalpindi Hospital September 10th 1 28 2002 CBS" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OW4A-yd9BI); to read the text, see "Bin Laden Whereabouts before 9/11," CBS Evening News with Dan Rather; Author: Dan Rather, Barry Petersen, January 28, 2002 (http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CBS203A.html). When I wrote the book, I did not know about this video.
David Ray Griffin (born 1939) is a retired professor of philosophy of religion and theology. Along with John B. Cobb, Jr., he founded the Center for Process Studies in 1973, a research center of Claremont School of Theology which seeks to promote the common good by means of the relational approach found in process thought.[1]More recently, Griffin has published a number of books on the subject of the September 11 attacks, suggesting that there was a conspiracy involving some elements of the United States government.[2]




























If it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Bin Laden has been dead since 2001 and that these wars were launched on manipulated data by our own government in order to decieve our own people, this is treason. There can be no doubt.
I for one would be the very first to call for courts martial for all the generals and admirals that knew on charges of treason and dereliction of duty, treason trials for all the Intelligence Community Directors that knew and as for Presidents and Vice Presidents of any party, I would call for public trials on treason charges.
If this is true and it can be proven, we are talking about imminent civil war led by the families of the American dead.
If this is true, and it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, this Republic is doomed.
CWO3 Tom Barnes, USCG (Ret.)
Nobody with any credibility has ever said bin Laden was alive.
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It sure would be nice if someone in the government would answer back on some of these pages and try to convince us that Osama is still alive.
Obama has been making the case that Osama is still a threat to us, and that we need to keep our troops in Afghanistan. Now is certainly the time for public debates about these security issues. If the American people do not demand these debates they will not happen.
What is there in this picture that resembles any part of a democracy?
Who is profiting from the heroin coming out of Afghanistan?
We have read official pentagon press releases that have announced that our troops are only bothering drug merchants who have ties to the Taliban,, but to what degree are we USING the heroin industry there?
Anyone interested in how we might be manipulating the control of the drug industry should read Alfred W. McCoy’s “The Politics of Heroin.” This is an incredibly well researched and documented book that reveals the actual inner workings of the international drug trade , and is so incredibly important to read during this current
situation in Afghanistan.
It appears that the American public is being treated as a small child might be treated,,,, just not mature enough to handle the truth,, not old enough to know the real situation.
One thing will spell failure for the Obama administration,, and that is if he does not keep his promise of creating more transparency in our government. Obama has a chance now to create open and transparent debates about our troops are being used,, and a chance to provide the most accurate intelligence data to be used in these debates.
The importance of these internet pages should not be underestimated.
Obama’s failure to provide open and honest debate about our government’s agenda will certainly threaten his chances to win another election,, and he should be wise enough to know this now.
Forget about winning the hearts and minds of our potential enemies,,,now is the time to be concerned about the hearts and minds of the people who got Obama elected.
Are we spreading our empire a little thin? I think so,, absolutely.
If the economic reality from our experts declares that we must control the heroin from Afghanistan in order to keep our boat afloat,, then tell us that.
We are big boys,, we can handle the truth!
I can see that angry Jack Nicholson face screaming at Tom Cruise now,,”You can’t handle the truth!!” Veins popping out on his forehead,, rage seething from his lips.
Well,,, not only do I think we can handle the truth,,, I feel we absolutely
deserve it.
But more importantly,,the men and women who have signed those contracts placing them on the ground in Afghanistan deserve the truth,,but they are not in positions to demand anything from their president or representatives,, they are there
trusting us to demand the truth,,, they are just there following orders.
Bravo and thanks to Veterans Today for keeping these discussions alive.
Our mass media has proven it cannot provide intelligent investigations.
These pages are very important. For a democracy to function correctly it relies on the informed and intelligent behavior of its citizens. We could always use a little more of that.
I’m going fishing,, enough of this serious talk!
Shea,
We have 2 issues with bin laden. OK, more than that. His death was announced, it was accepted in Islam that he was dead, but why did we lie openly for 7 year…8 now…that people are following bin Laden. He is forgotten by everyone except us.
The other problem….who was he? His real statements are so far from the “Weekend at Bernies” zombie version that SOMEONE hired…that we may not have a clear idea about the man.
Let’s get a clear history and see if we might decide who it was we thought we were against and why. We beleive he was invovled in the embassy bombings in 98.
We have no proof bin Laden was involved or that Al Qaeda even existed at the time. The US Attorney’s office seemed to have jumped to these conclusions to make the case seem much more sexy.
We knew the groups that did this and why. Our assumption that a worldwide terror organization run by bin Laden was responsible is without any clear evidence.
Were he alive and if he had Gerry Spence as a lawyer, bin Laden could be walking down any street in America. He was wanted for crimes we didn’t have didley squat of evidence against him for.
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