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		<title>By: Himmler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Himmler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not exactly. This garbage is funded by UAE.</description>
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		<title>By: Mark, USA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark, USA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 01:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the ancient Greek philosopher Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it should be kept. If it doesn&#039;t, the belief should not only be discarded, but the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous information in the first place. Not surprisingly, this type of teaching didn&#039;t sit well with the ruling elite of Greece. &quot; By Dr. Albert D Pastore Phd. From http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/stf1.html?q=stf1.html

Mega-Millionaire, Jimmy Walter, Offers $100,000 Reward For Scientific Proof that the WTC Towers Collapsed As Bush Administration Claims.

www.NAFCASH.com offers $10000 REWARD for locating JUST ONE of the alleged “HUGE MASS GRAVES” of Treblinka. 

Don&#039;t waste your time analyzing the evil done by the many tentacles of the beast.  I think you should get to the core, the source of the problem.  Attack at the heart of the beast.  There are few things in this world that can be assessed scientifically and unemotionally and shown to be true or false.  An extremely recent historical event that resulted in the death and burial of millions of individuals in a ditch no bigger than a few feet wide is one such easily provable thing.   To prove this in 1945 at the Nuremberg trials the US and British forces showed two shrunken heads, one &quot;tattooed human skin lamp shade&quot;, a bar of &quot;human soap&quot;, a half dozen paid &quot;eye witnesses&quot;, confessions of a few half way to death tortured German officers, and a few other such odd items.  All the items shown in the Nuremberg trials have now been scientifically and logically shown to have been nothing more than lies and the eye witnesses were shown to have contradicted themselves and gotten lost in their own lies.   In 2009 the leader of Israel, Mr. Netanyahu, with his access to all the data, evidence, and historical materials of the WWII camps comes to the UN and shows a map of one of the Camps as proof.   We are told that there are Mountains of evidence, Mountains of documents that clearly, precisely, and unambiguously prove the deliberate killings of the Jews using specific chemicals at those camps.   No not a drawer full, not an ant hill, but Mountains of documents that clearly prove this evil act.   Of this Mountains of documents, after years of research, Mr. Netanyahu finally finds one document in 2009, at the age &quot;Photoshop&quot;, and brings this definite irrefutable proof to the UN floor.   I urge you the readers to check out the history of that document shown by Mr. Netanyahu.   It was found and labeled as proof in the 1970s.  Soon after that &quot;JEWISH&quot; historians from Israel as well as others examined and labeled it as FAKE.   Not that it was not a map; it was.  But it was a map of somewhere else showing something else that had nothing to do with killing people.   Kind of like showing the map of restaurants in Miami and saying that this is the map of Gas chambers in New York City used to kill the Jews, and that is why there are so few Jews in the New York City.  Lets say we continue to believe the gas chamber killing stories of the &quot;first&quot; and the second world war, it would be really nice if someone could show an actual scientific proof of the darn thing.  Any proof would do, just as long as we can all point to it and say “Aha” finally there it is the irrefutable proof.   Note that after the war, we the US, Britain, and Israel came to own the German materials.   We have the German typewriters, the German codes, the German ink ribbons and ink bottles, the German paper, the German printing press, the German Top secret governmental stamps, and we even have their German secretaries.  Surely in 60 years we can fabricate some half decent &quot;proof&quot; document that at least fools the Jewish historians!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the ancient Greek philosopher Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it should be kept. If it doesn&#8217;t, the belief should not only be discarded, but the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous information in the first place. Not surprisingly, this type of teaching didn&#8217;t sit well with the ruling elite of Greece. &#8221; By Dr. Albert D Pastore Phd. From <a href="http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/stf1.html?q=stf1.html" rel="nofollow">http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/stf1.html?q=stf1.html</a></p>
<p>Mega-Millionaire, Jimmy Walter, Offers $100,000 Reward For Scientific Proof that the WTC Towers Collapsed As Bush Administration Claims.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.NAFCASH.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.NAFCASH.com</a> offers $10000 REWARD for locating JUST ONE of the alleged “HUGE MASS GRAVES” of Treblinka. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t waste your time analyzing the evil done by the many tentacles of the beast.  I think you should get to the core, the source of the problem.  Attack at the heart of the beast.  There are few things in this world that can be assessed scientifically and unemotionally and shown to be true or false.  An extremely recent historical event that resulted in the death and burial of millions of individuals in a ditch no bigger than a few feet wide is one such easily provable thing.   To prove this in 1945 at the Nuremberg trials the US and British forces showed two shrunken heads, one &#8220;tattooed human skin lamp shade&#8221;, a bar of &#8220;human soap&#8221;, a half dozen paid &#8220;eye witnesses&#8221;, confessions of a few half way to death tortured German officers, and a few other such odd items.  All the items shown in the Nuremberg trials have now been scientifically and logically shown to have been nothing more than lies and the eye witnesses were shown to have contradicted themselves and gotten lost in their own lies.   In 2009 the leader of Israel, Mr. Netanyahu, with his access to all the data, evidence, and historical materials of the WWII camps comes to the UN and shows a map of one of the Camps as proof.   We are told that there are Mountains of evidence, Mountains of documents that clearly, precisely, and unambiguously prove the deliberate killings of the Jews using specific chemicals at those camps.   No not a drawer full, not an ant hill, but Mountains of documents that clearly prove this evil act.   Of this Mountains of documents, after years of research, Mr. Netanyahu finally finds one document in 2009, at the age &#8220;Photoshop&#8221;, and brings this definite irrefutable proof to the UN floor.   I urge you the readers to check out the history of that document shown by Mr. Netanyahu.   It was found and labeled as proof in the 1970s.  Soon after that &#8220;JEWISH&#8221; historians from Israel as well as others examined and labeled it as FAKE.   Not that it was not a map; it was.  But it was a map of somewhere else showing something else that had nothing to do with killing people.   Kind of like showing the map of restaurants in Miami and saying that this is the map of Gas chambers in New York City used to kill the Jews, and that is why there are so few Jews in the New York City.  Lets say we continue to believe the gas chamber killing stories of the &#8220;first&#8221; and the second world war, it would be really nice if someone could show an actual scientific proof of the darn thing.  Any proof would do, just as long as we can all point to it and say “Aha” finally there it is the irrefutable proof.   Note that after the war, we the US, Britain, and Israel came to own the German materials.   We have the German typewriters, the German codes, the German ink ribbons and ink bottles, the German paper, the German printing press, the German Top secret governmental stamps, and we even have their German secretaries.  Surely in 60 years we can fabricate some half decent &#8220;proof&#8221; document that at least fools the Jewish historians!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mick</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/26/nuke-gaza-a-world-gone-mad/comment-page-1/#comment-29917</link>
		<dc:creator>Mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can find Dave Lindorf here
http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/ 

You can find me here. I posted this on the front page of the blog where the entire song is located. It is a take off on Country Joe and Fish&#039;s song during the Vietnam era. I know you are familiar with this Jeff.

http://wwwcampfire.blogspot.com/

If we don&#039;t get the hell out of Afghanistan, then we&#039;ll all be singing Country Joe&#039;s song, but with modified lyrics (which I (Dave Lindorff) just premiered at a solo performance at a fund-raising dinner last week in Philadelphia for the local chapter of Veterans for Peace):

Come on all you young women and men,&#8232;
Uncle Sam needs your help again.
&#8232;He&#039;s got himself into a terrible jam,&#8232;
Way off yonder in Afghanistan.
&#8232;You ain&#039;t got a job, so pick up a gun!
&#8232;We&#039;re gonna have a whole lotta fun!

All you folks in the National Guard,
&#8232;You won&#039;t be protecting your back yard.
&#8232;We may have floods and hurricanes here,
&#8232;But you&#039;ll be dodging bullets in the desert there.
&#8232;But if that&#039;s not what you signed up for,
&#8232;We&#039;ll send you there a few times more!

General McCrystal, jump right in!&#8232;
Your big chance has come again.&#8232;
The VC whupped us back in &#039;74,
&#8232;But now you can show some Muslims what-for,
And maybe even earn you a medal or three,&#8232;
Sittin&#039; at your desk in DC.&#8232;

Chorus:&#8232;Oh it&#039;s one, two, three what are we fightin&#039; for?&#8232;
Don&#039;t ask me, I don&#039;t give a damn.
&#8232;Next stop&#039;s Afghanistan.&#8232;
 it&#039;s five, six, seven, open up the Pearly Gates.
&#8232;Ain&#039;t no time to wonder why.
&#8232;Whoopee! We&#039;re all bound to die!

Come on mothers, here&#039;s the plan,
&#8232;Send your son off to Afghanistan.
&#8232;Come on fathers, it&#039;s all cool,&#8232;
Send a daughter off to Ka-Bool.
&#8232;And if they die, they come home free,
&#8232;And nobody has to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can find Dave Lindorf here<br />
<a href="http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/" rel="nofollow">http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/</a> </p>
<p>You can find me here. I posted this on the front page of the blog where the entire song is located. It is a take off on Country Joe and Fish&#8217;s song during the Vietnam era. I know you are familiar with this Jeff.</p>
<p><a href="http://wwwcampfire.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://wwwcampfire.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p>If we don&#8217;t get the hell out of Afghanistan, then we&#8217;ll all be singing Country Joe&#8217;s song, but with modified lyrics (which I (Dave Lindorff) just premiered at a solo performance at a fund-raising dinner last week in Philadelphia for the local chapter of Veterans for Peace):</p>
<p>Come on all you young women and men,&#8232;<br />
Uncle Sam needs your help again.<br />
&#8232;He&#8217;s got himself into a terrible jam,&#8232;<br />
Way off yonder in Afghanistan.<br />
&#8232;You ain&#8217;t got a job, so pick up a gun!<br />
&#8232;We&#8217;re gonna have a whole lotta fun!</p>
<p>All you folks in the National Guard,<br />
&#8232;You won&#8217;t be protecting your back yard.<br />
&#8232;We may have floods and hurricanes here,<br />
&#8232;But you&#8217;ll be dodging bullets in the desert there.<br />
&#8232;But if that&#8217;s not what you signed up for,<br />
&#8232;We&#8217;ll send you there a few times more!</p>
<p>General McCrystal, jump right in!&#8232;<br />
Your big chance has come again.&#8232;<br />
The VC whupped us back in &#8217;74,<br />
&#8232;But now you can show some Muslims what-for,<br />
And maybe even earn you a medal or three,&#8232;<br />
Sittin&#8217; at your desk in DC.&#8232;</p>
<p>Chorus:&#8232;Oh it&#8217;s one, two, three what are we fightin&#8217; for?&#8232;<br />
Don&#8217;t ask me, I don&#8217;t give a damn.<br />
&#8232;Next stop&#8217;s Afghanistan.&#8232;<br />
 it&#8217;s five, six, seven, open up the Pearly Gates.<br />
&#8232;Ain&#8217;t no time to wonder why.<br />
&#8232;Whoopee! We&#8217;re all bound to die!</p>
<p>Come on mothers, here&#8217;s the plan,<br />
&#8232;Send your son off to Afghanistan.<br />
&#8232;Come on fathers, it&#8217;s all cool,&#8232;<br />
Send a daughter off to Ka-Bool.<br />
&#8232;And if they die, they come home free,<br />
&#8232;And nobody has to see.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Gates</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/26/nuke-gaza-a-world-gone-mad/comment-page-1/#comment-29729</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Gates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for taking the time to comment. This is Information Age warfare. Why would anyone expect it to be other that it is, particularly the role of mainstream media in assisting the perpetrators in displacing facts with what &quot;the mark&quot; (us) can be deceived to believe. For how long has the behavior of the species been manipulated by those masterful at manipulating thoughts and emotions? The only thing modern about this duplicity is the modern means for deceiving on a global scale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for taking the time to comment. This is Information Age warfare. Why would anyone expect it to be other that it is, particularly the role of mainstream media in assisting the perpetrators in displacing facts with what &#8220;the mark&#8221; (us) can be deceived to believe. For how long has the behavior of the species been manipulated by those masterful at manipulating thoughts and emotions? The only thing modern about this duplicity is the modern means for deceiving on a global scale.</p>
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		<title>By: Mick</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/26/nuke-gaza-a-world-gone-mad/comment-page-1/#comment-29723</link>
		<dc:creator>Mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack that dog won&#039;t hunt anymore! 

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6c8_1247454118

Israeli ‘thought Police’ Declare All Out War On The Web

&quot;The Foreign Ministry unveiled a new plan this week: Paying talkbackers to post pro-Israel responses on websites worldwide. A total of NIS 600,000 (roughly $150,000) will be earmarked to the establishment of an “Internet warfare” squad.

The Foreign Ministry intends to hire young people who speak at least one language and who study communication, political science, or law – or alternately, Israelis with military experience gained at units dealing with information analysis.

Beyond the fact that these job requirements reveal a basic lack of understanding in respect to the dynamics of the online discourse – the project’s manager argued that “adults don’t know how to blog” – they are not too relevant either. An effective talkbacker does not need a law degree or military experience. He merely needs to care about the subject he writes about.

The sad truth is that had Israeli citizens believed that their State is doing the right thing, they would have made sure to explain it out of their own accord. Without being paid.

Foreign Ministry officials are fighting what they see as a terrible and scary monster: the Palestinian public relations monster. Yet nothing can be done to defeat it, regardless of how many foolish inventions will be introduced and how many bright communication students will be hired.

The reason is that good PR cannot make the reality in the occupied territories prettier. Children are being killed, homes are being bombed, and families are starved. Yet nonetheless, the Foreign Ministry wants to try to change the situation. And they have willing partners. “Where do I submit a CV?” wrote one respondent. “I’m fluent in several languages and I’m able to spew forth bullshit for hours on end.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack that dog won&#8217;t hunt anymore! </p>
<p><a href="http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6c8_1247454118" rel="nofollow">http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6c8_1247454118</a></p>
<p>Israeli ‘thought Police’ Declare All Out War On The Web</p>
<p>&#8220;The Foreign Ministry unveiled a new plan this week: Paying talkbackers to post pro-Israel responses on websites worldwide. A total of NIS 600,000 (roughly $150,000) will be earmarked to the establishment of an “Internet warfare” squad.</p>
<p>The Foreign Ministry intends to hire young people who speak at least one language and who study communication, political science, or law – or alternately, Israelis with military experience gained at units dealing with information analysis.</p>
<p>Beyond the fact that these job requirements reveal a basic lack of understanding in respect to the dynamics of the online discourse – the project’s manager argued that “adults don’t know how to blog” – they are not too relevant either. An effective talkbacker does not need a law degree or military experience. He merely needs to care about the subject he writes about.</p>
<p>The sad truth is that had Israeli citizens believed that their State is doing the right thing, they would have made sure to explain it out of their own accord. Without being paid.</p>
<p>Foreign Ministry officials are fighting what they see as a terrible and scary monster: the Palestinian public relations monster. Yet nothing can be done to defeat it, regardless of how many foolish inventions will be introduced and how many bright communication students will be hired.</p>
<p>The reason is that good PR cannot make the reality in the occupied territories prettier. Children are being killed, homes are being bombed, and families are starved. Yet nonetheless, the Foreign Ministry wants to try to change the situation. And they have willing partners. “Where do I submit a CV?” wrote one respondent. “I’m fluent in several languages and I’m able to spew forth bullshit for hours on end.”</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Gates</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/26/nuke-gaza-a-world-gone-mad/comment-page-1/#comment-29491</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Gates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This comment sounds like a guilt-by-association ploy. Have you read Guilt By Association? If not, please go to the Criminal State website where there are several excerpts and lots of op-eds on the &quot;how&quot; of this systemic duplicity. You&#039;ll also find a chapter in the book precisely on this point titled &quot;The New Anti-Semitism&quot; -- i.e., the attempt to dismiss any criticism of Israeli policy no matter how extreme. The culprit here is extremism. Moderate Jews are thrilled at the analysis. They would rightly be concerned by those who would attempt to conceal the real facts by making guilt-by-association charges such as this. &quot;Sounds like&quot; is the domain of the dumb. Get familiar with the confirmed facts and then share with the vets an informed opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This comment sounds like a guilt-by-association ploy. Have you read Guilt By Association? If not, please go to the Criminal State website where there are several excerpts and lots of op-eds on the &#8220;how&#8221; of this systemic duplicity. You&#8217;ll also find a chapter in the book precisely on this point titled &#8220;The New Anti-Semitism&#8221; &#8212; i.e., the attempt to dismiss any criticism of Israeli policy no matter how extreme. The culprit here is extremism. Moderate Jews are thrilled at the analysis. They would rightly be concerned by those who would attempt to conceal the real facts by making guilt-by-association charges such as this. &#8220;Sounds like&#8221; is the domain of the dumb. Get familiar with the confirmed facts and then share with the vets an informed opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: jack barsela</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/26/nuke-gaza-a-world-gone-mad/comment-page-1/#comment-29481</link>
		<dc:creator>jack barsela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article sound like a storm front white aryan article</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff Gates</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/26/nuke-gaza-a-world-gone-mad/comment-page-1/#comment-29274</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Gates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comment. Those responsible for serial well-timed crises rely on agent provocateur behavior to ensure that others are seen as the aggressors. In game theory-modeled warfare, the reaction of &quot;the mark&quot; (aka us) to a well planned orchestration becomes predictable - within an acceptable range of probabilities. And, yes, you are correct: then the &quot;problem&quot; disappears and the responder becomes the problems -- as with our invasion of Iraq. We are now the aggressors yet the Greater Israel policy is the key beneficiary. And, yes, unless we face the facts and fix this entangled alliance, we will continue to be perceived as hostile to the Muslim world and them to us. Those chronicled in Guilt By Association specialize in pitting two sides against the middle (e.g., The Clash of Civilizations) while profiting off the misery of both. The only modern aspect of this mental and emotional manipulation is the technological means to deceive on a global scale. As for those people whose political careers are produced by this trans-generational criminal syndicate, please see the response above for a description of how those complicit often operate through &quot;assets&quot; and a vast cadre of sayanim (Hebrew for volunteers). Israel has already lost; Tel Aviv just cannot yet acknowledge it. Nor can those in positions of power who continue to give aid and comfort to this enemy within. As Shakespeare put it best: the truth will out. Those most hurt by this psychopathology disguised as a nation-state are not only the obvious—our troops and those we are induced to kill for others—but also moderate Jews, including those who in 1948 urged that we not recognize these fanatics as a &quot;state.&quot; Albert Einstein and other brilliant Jews were candid in their assessment. In a December 1948 letter to the editor featured in The New York Times, they said: &quot;This bears the unmistakable stamp of a Fascist party for whom terrorism (against Jews, Arabs and British alike), and misrepresentation are means and a leader state the goal.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment. Those responsible for serial well-timed crises rely on agent provocateur behavior to ensure that others are seen as the aggressors. In game theory-modeled warfare, the reaction of &#8220;the mark&#8221; (aka us) to a well planned orchestration becomes predictable &#8211; within an acceptable range of probabilities. And, yes, you are correct: then the &#8220;problem&#8221; disappears and the responder becomes the problems &#8212; as with our invasion of Iraq. We are now the aggressors yet the Greater Israel policy is the key beneficiary. And, yes, unless we face the facts and fix this entangled alliance, we will continue to be perceived as hostile to the Muslim world and them to us. Those chronicled in Guilt By Association specialize in pitting two sides against the middle (e.g., The Clash of Civilizations) while profiting off the misery of both. The only modern aspect of this mental and emotional manipulation is the technological means to deceive on a global scale. As for those people whose political careers are produced by this trans-generational criminal syndicate, please see the response above for a description of how those complicit often operate through &#8220;assets&#8221; and a vast cadre of sayanim (Hebrew for volunteers). Israel has already lost; Tel Aviv just cannot yet acknowledge it. Nor can those in positions of power who continue to give aid and comfort to this enemy within. As Shakespeare put it best: the truth will out. Those most hurt by this psychopathology disguised as a nation-state are not only the obvious—our troops and those we are induced to kill for others—but also moderate Jews, including those who in 1948 urged that we not recognize these fanatics as a &#8220;state.&#8221; Albert Einstein and other brilliant Jews were candid in their assessment. In a December 1948 letter to the editor featured in The New York Times, they said: &#8220;This bears the unmistakable stamp of a Fascist party for whom terrorism (against Jews, Arabs and British alike), and misrepresentation are means and a leader state the goal.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kristoffer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristoffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, really good article. 

Second: This is the tragic truthe, israel is the aggresior in most of the conflicts and when they are accused of this. They hide under the &quot;you are a nazi&quot; blanket and then the problem dissapears and I become the aggressor. 

The fact is that this will prolly in some near future result in a major conflict where israel is bound to loose. I dont have any problems with jews in general, just that they have a tendancy to put retarded people at possitions of power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, really good article. </p>
<p>Second: This is the tragic truthe, israel is the aggresior in most of the conflicts and when they are accused of this. They hide under the &#8220;you are a nazi&#8221; blanket and then the problem dissapears and I become the aggressor. </p>
<p>The fact is that this will prolly in some near future result in a major conflict where israel is bound to loose. I dont have any problems with jews in general, just that they have a tendancy to put retarded people at possitions of power.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Gates</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/26/nuke-gaza-a-world-gone-mad/comment-page-1/#comment-29256</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Gates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Certainly it will fascinating to isolate the source of this latest scare. I gather that a laboratory was the source of the hoof-and-mouth disease that devastated the U.K. economy a few years back. If, as the confirmed facts suggest, war is being waged on the U.S. by an enemy within, prudence suggests that one remain open to the possibility of a multifaceted assault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly it will fascinating to isolate the source of this latest scare. I gather that a laboratory was the source of the hoof-and-mouth disease that devastated the U.K. economy a few years back. If, as the confirmed facts suggest, war is being waged on the U.S. by an enemy within, prudence suggests that one remain open to the possibility of a multifaceted assault.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Gates</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/26/nuke-gaza-a-world-gone-mad/comment-page-1/#comment-29254</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Gates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When served lemons, make lemonade. Others have mentioned the possibility of using the Apartheid Wall (aka the Separation Fence) as a means to contain this phenomenon. Rather than keeping Palestinians out, use the wall and the guard tower as a means to enable the oppressed to keep the oppressors contained. An interesting new way to frame the problem. And potentially a way to meet the post-Cold War challenge of containment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When served lemons, make lemonade. Others have mentioned the possibility of using the Apartheid Wall (aka the Separation Fence) as a means to contain this phenomenon. Rather than keeping Palestinians out, use the wall and the guard tower as a means to enable the oppressed to keep the oppressors contained. An interesting new way to frame the problem. And potentially a way to meet the post-Cold War challenge of containment.</p>
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		<title>By: Mick</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/26/nuke-gaza-a-world-gone-mad/comment-page-1/#comment-29170</link>
		<dc:creator>Mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=1433%3Anational-emergency-declaration-in-usa-allows-use-of-squalene&amp;catid=1%3Alatest-news&amp;Itemid=64&amp;lang=en

Squalene vaccination will be the ultimate way to reduce veteran pensions. 

The decision by President Barack Obama to declare a National Emergency over the swine flu pandemic will allow vaccines and drugs such as the adjuvant squalene which have not been approved by the FDA to be used by doctors, hospitals and vaccine clinics.

There is a large body of scientific evidence that shows that squalene in the anthrax vaccine was responsible for causing the Gulf War Syndrome and other diseases in US and UK soldiers.

The swine flu jab vaccine contains up to a million times more squalene than the anthrax vaccines, which afflicted an estimated 25 % of all soldiers who got the jab.

Squalene is illegal in the USA and UK, but emergency regulations allow the government to use drugs that have not been proven for safety.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageId=110720

Dr. Doom
http://tcrnews2.com/Popcontrol1.html</description>
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<p>Squalene vaccination will be the ultimate way to reduce veteran pensions. </p>
<p>The decision by President Barack Obama to declare a National Emergency over the swine flu pandemic will allow vaccines and drugs such as the adjuvant squalene which have not been approved by the FDA to be used by doctors, hospitals and vaccine clinics.</p>
<p>There is a large body of scientific evidence that shows that squalene in the anthrax vaccine was responsible for causing the Gulf War Syndrome and other diseases in US and UK soldiers.</p>
<p>The swine flu jab vaccine contains up to a million times more squalene than the anthrax vaccines, which afflicted an estimated 25 % of all soldiers who got the jab.</p>
<p>Squalene is illegal in the USA and UK, but emergency regulations allow the government to use drugs that have not been proven for safety.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&#038;pageId=110720" rel="nofollow">http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&#038;pageId=110720</a></p>
<p>Dr. Doom<br />
<a href="http://tcrnews2.com/Popcontrol1.html" rel="nofollow">http://tcrnews2.com/Popcontrol1.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tempus Mutantis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tempus Mutantis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way to not be an accomplish in the Khazars crimes would be for USA to build a wall around ISIS-RA-EL, stop all supplies including food, stop the water from entering it, have snipers target babies-and everybody else, bomb them with sulphur and depleted uranium and have check-points everywhere.AND to imprison the traitors who have usurped the US government. Nuking is too fast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way to not be an accomplish in the Khazars crimes would be for USA to build a wall around ISIS-RA-EL, stop all supplies including food, stop the water from entering it, have snipers target babies-and everybody else, bomb them with sulphur and depleted uranium and have check-points everywhere.AND to imprison the traitors who have usurped the US government. Nuking is too fast.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Gates</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/26/nuke-gaza-a-world-gone-mad/comment-page-1/#comment-29142</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Gates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama&#039;s political career is a product of West Side Chicago Ashkenazim with roots that trace directly back to organized crime of the 1920s through the Pritzker and Crown (Krinsky) clans. He is what is known as an &quot;asset&quot; (see description below). AND that does not mean he could not become a terrific, even a transformative, president. But first he will need to wake up and realize that he would not be where he is but for this trans-generational syndicate. Unless he makes that shift prior to traveling to Oslo to receive the Nobel peace prize, the Norwegians will be complicit in enabling an &quot;asset&quot; of those who are the most sophisticated war-mongers with which the human species has been forced to contend. I object to your generalization about Jews. Many Jews are appalled by the behavior epitomized by the &quot;state&quot; of Israel. Many Jews are outspoken in their objections and working for change. To paint with such a broad brushstroke only feeds the ability of those complicit to deflect criticism with claims of anti-Semitism. Suggest you stick tightly to the facts and to evidence able to isolate HOW this deceit operates in plain sight. Here&#039;s the description of asset from Guilt By Association, also available on the Criminal State website in an excerpt (&quot;Introduction&quot;):  •	Assets are people profiled such that, within an acceptable range of probabilities, they can be relied upon to behave consistent with their personality profile. Assets lack the state of mind required for criminal culpability because they lack the conscious intent to commit a crime. Nevertheless, they can contribute to a criminal operation simply by pursuing their subconscious personal needs, typically for recognition, influence, money, sex, drugs or ideology. 

Put a profiled asset in a pre-staged time, place and circumstance (such as a presidency) and psy-ops specialists can be confident that—within an acceptable range of probabilities—an asset will behave consistent with their profile, much as Bill Clinton behaved with White House intern Monica Lewinsky. Just as Christian Zionist presidents from Harry Truman to G.W. Bush were reliable and pliable advocates for pro-Israeli policies, the consistency of a candidate’s conduct confirms his or her qualifications as a pro-Israeli asset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s political career is a product of West Side Chicago Ashkenazim with roots that trace directly back to organized crime of the 1920s through the Pritzker and Crown (Krinsky) clans. He is what is known as an &#8220;asset&#8221; (see description below). AND that does not mean he could not become a terrific, even a transformative, president. But first he will need to wake up and realize that he would not be where he is but for this trans-generational syndicate. Unless he makes that shift prior to traveling to Oslo to receive the Nobel peace prize, the Norwegians will be complicit in enabling an &#8220;asset&#8221; of those who are the most sophisticated war-mongers with which the human species has been forced to contend. I object to your generalization about Jews. Many Jews are appalled by the behavior epitomized by the &#8220;state&#8221; of Israel. Many Jews are outspoken in their objections and working for change. To paint with such a broad brushstroke only feeds the ability of those complicit to deflect criticism with claims of anti-Semitism. Suggest you stick tightly to the facts and to evidence able to isolate HOW this deceit operates in plain sight. Here&#8217;s the description of asset from Guilt By Association, also available on the Criminal State website in an excerpt (&#8220;Introduction&#8221;):  •	Assets are people profiled such that, within an acceptable range of probabilities, they can be relied upon to behave consistent with their personality profile. Assets lack the state of mind required for criminal culpability because they lack the conscious intent to commit a crime. Nevertheless, they can contribute to a criminal operation simply by pursuing their subconscious personal needs, typically for recognition, influence, money, sex, drugs or ideology. </p>
<p>Put a profiled asset in a pre-staged time, place and circumstance (such as a presidency) and psy-ops specialists can be confident that—within an acceptable range of probabilities—an asset will behave consistent with their profile, much as Bill Clinton behaved with White House intern Monica Lewinsky. Just as Christian Zionist presidents from Harry Truman to G.W. Bush were reliable and pliable advocates for pro-Israeli policies, the consistency of a candidate’s conduct confirms his or her qualifications as a pro-Israeli asset.</p>
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		<title>By: Georgann Marks</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/26/nuke-gaza-a-world-gone-mad/comment-page-1/#comment-29136</link>
		<dc:creator>Georgann Marks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I voted Obama, in part because the Jerusalem Post hated him.

Silly me... another false flag operation.

The bloom was off that rose for me with his first appointment of Rahm Emanuel.... 

It seems Barack [yes we can] Obama sold his soul to the Jews to get a media pass for the duration of the campaign.

America is still Sobibor West - with a Jew in every watch tower.

When the Nobel committee gave him the Peace Prize... I hoped it was to give legitimacy to his resistance to Jewish control over foreign policy.

If that were the case, we&#039;ve sure seen no sign of a backbone in the man.

He seems content to bring medicare to the masses .... as a first term goal.

It makes one ask... how much of a majority do Progressives have to garner to thwart the many games of Congress?

My fear is that the left postures against the war... but the business of war is just too lucrative for the monsters who control our governors.

So long as Obama is reviled in Israel.... I keep a glimmer of hope alive... but Jews will always be Jews.... and you cannot read their tea leaves without an official translator..... vermin that they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I voted Obama, in part because the Jerusalem Post hated him.</p>
<p>Silly me&#8230; another false flag operation.</p>
<p>The bloom was off that rose for me with his first appointment of Rahm Emanuel&#8230;. </p>
<p>It seems Barack [yes we can] Obama sold his soul to the Jews to get a media pass for the duration of the campaign.</p>
<p>America is still Sobibor West &#8211; with a Jew in every watch tower.</p>
<p>When the Nobel committee gave him the Peace Prize&#8230; I hoped it was to give legitimacy to his resistance to Jewish control over foreign policy.</p>
<p>If that were the case, we&#8217;ve sure seen no sign of a backbone in the man.</p>
<p>He seems content to bring medicare to the masses &#8230;. as a first term goal.</p>
<p>It makes one ask&#8230; how much of a majority do Progressives have to garner to thwart the many games of Congress?</p>
<p>My fear is that the left postures against the war&#8230; but the business of war is just too lucrative for the monsters who control our governors.</p>
<p>So long as Obama is reviled in Israel&#8230;. I keep a glimmer of hope alive&#8230; but Jews will always be Jews&#8230;. and you cannot read their tea leaves without an official translator&#8230;.. vermin that they are.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff Gates</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/26/nuke-gaza-a-world-gone-mad/comment-page-1/#comment-29134</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff Gates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;ll look on the Criminal State website, you&#039;ll see a chapter excerpt from Guilt By Association that addresses the USS Liberty situation and the key role played in it by the admiral father of Senator John McCain and, more recently, by the Arizona Senator when he endorsed a cover-up. The chapter is titled &quot;McCain Family Secret: The Cover-up.&quot; How many Americans realize that our Commander-in-Chief at the time (Lyndon Johnson) was having his needs serviced by Mathilde Krim, the wife of the largest fundraiser for the party that LBJ then headed? And that Mathilde was a former Irgun operative, the terrorist gang that oversaw the ethnic cleansing of 400-plus Palestinian villages? How many Americans realized that she was in the White House the night the 1967 war broke out? Do you think the Monica Lewinsky scandal was an isolated event? How old/ancient is this modus operandi? I live in Arizona, a state that has been run by organized crime since at least the 1920s when Gus Greenbaum was its overseer. When he moved to Las Vegas after Murder, Inc. killed Bugsy Seigel who was caught skimming the casino skim, Kemper Marley took over. His statewide liquor monopoly traces directly to Prohibition-era Bronfman clan distillers, founders/funders of the World Jewish Congress. When Kemper had federal liquor law problems, the two Hensley brothers, both employees, took the heat. That&#039;s when Jim Hensley came into the Anheuser-Busch distributorship, a license to print money. His daughter, 18 years the junior of John McCain, &quot;met&quot; this former POW with an electable CV. Playing consistent with his profile, he and she hit it off. He soon ended his marriage, moved here and was put into the House four years before Goldwater&#039;s anticipated retirement from the Senate. McCain is a classic asset - driven by unfulfilled needs and a nontransparent agenda. In this 2008 race for the presidency, the GOP silenced several senators who candidly conceded what everyone knows: he is far too unstable serve as president. Even serving as a Senator is a stretch but then that&#039;s why he&#039;s there. Keep in mind his inseparable companion was Jewish Zionist Senator Joe Lieberman in the post-911 environment where they were the lead cheerleaders for the invasion of Iraq. When an informed public grasps -- really grasps -- HOW this psy-ops works in plain sight, they will see how this duplicity begins with the betrayal of the self. On that score, John McCain will be the poster boy for treason in the modern era. When the list of key enablers is compiled, he will be highly ranked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;ll look on the Criminal State website, you&#8217;ll see a chapter excerpt from Guilt By Association that addresses the USS Liberty situation and the key role played in it by the admiral father of Senator John McCain and, more recently, by the Arizona Senator when he endorsed a cover-up. The chapter is titled &#8220;McCain Family Secret: The Cover-up.&#8221; How many Americans realize that our Commander-in-Chief at the time (Lyndon Johnson) was having his needs serviced by Mathilde Krim, the wife of the largest fundraiser for the party that LBJ then headed? And that Mathilde was a former Irgun operative, the terrorist gang that oversaw the ethnic cleansing of 400-plus Palestinian villages? How many Americans realized that she was in the White House the night the 1967 war broke out? Do you think the Monica Lewinsky scandal was an isolated event? How old/ancient is this modus operandi? I live in Arizona, a state that has been run by organized crime since at least the 1920s when Gus Greenbaum was its overseer. When he moved to Las Vegas after Murder, Inc. killed Bugsy Seigel who was caught skimming the casino skim, Kemper Marley took over. His statewide liquor monopoly traces directly to Prohibition-era Bronfman clan distillers, founders/funders of the World Jewish Congress. When Kemper had federal liquor law problems, the two Hensley brothers, both employees, took the heat. That&#8217;s when Jim Hensley came into the Anheuser-Busch distributorship, a license to print money. His daughter, 18 years the junior of John McCain, &#8220;met&#8221; this former POW with an electable CV. Playing consistent with his profile, he and she hit it off. He soon ended his marriage, moved here and was put into the House four years before Goldwater&#8217;s anticipated retirement from the Senate. McCain is a classic asset &#8211; driven by unfulfilled needs and a nontransparent agenda. In this 2008 race for the presidency, the GOP silenced several senators who candidly conceded what everyone knows: he is far too unstable serve as president. Even serving as a Senator is a stretch but then that&#8217;s why he&#8217;s there. Keep in mind his inseparable companion was Jewish Zionist Senator Joe Lieberman in the post-911 environment where they were the lead cheerleaders for the invasion of Iraq. When an informed public grasps &#8212; really grasps &#8212; HOW this psy-ops works in plain sight, they will see how this duplicity begins with the betrayal of the self. On that score, John McCain will be the poster boy for treason in the modern era. When the list of key enablers is compiled, he will be highly ranked.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff Gates</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/26/nuke-gaza-a-world-gone-mad/comment-page-1/#comment-29130</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff Gates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Defense Secretary Robert Gates (no relation) coined a terrific descriptive term to describe the most troublesome combatants when waging unconventional warfare. He calls them simply &quot;the people in between.&quot; Thus the strategic necessity for Zionists and pro-Israelis to exert such dominance in media. In a system of governance based on informed consent, it&#039;s essential to Israel&#039;s success that their operatives put a barrier between a target population (such as the U.S.) and the real facts. That&#039;s HOW you displace facts with what &quot;the mark&quot; can be deceived to believe. Thus the role, for example, of Wolf Blitzer who served 17 years with The Jerusalem Post and also served as an editor of Near East Report, the in-house journal of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (i.e., the Israel lobby). He even wrote a book on Israeli super-spy Jonathan Pollard, the fellow who stole more than one million classified documents. Likewise Judith Miller at the New York Times who parroted the fixed intelligence from Ahmad Chalabi, the Iraqi liar who was recruited by Richard Perle &amp; Co two decades ago to ensure a &quot;reliable&quot; source to induce us to invade Iraq in response to the mass murder of 9-11. In theory, the airwaves belong to the American public. That&#039;s why federal rules ensure that no one person can monopolize outlets. Yet what good does that do if those who own the outlets share the same undisclosed bias -- which is what we now face. The inescapable reality is that this is how warfare is waged in the Information Age. Why would anyone expect it to be otherwise? Without exception, &quot;the people in between&quot; in this essential domain are Zionists and/or pro-Israeli. The Framers were very clear about the centrality of media in maintaining the informed populace required for informed consent. By dominating that &quot;in between&quot; domain, mainstream media enables high treason -- in plain sight. As people grasp &quot;how&quot; this duplicity proceeds in plain sight, they will see for themselves who and why. At present, governments committed to systems of informed choice (aka liberty) are steadily losing ground, particularly here in the so-called bastion of freedom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Defense Secretary Robert Gates (no relation) coined a terrific descriptive term to describe the most troublesome combatants when waging unconventional warfare. He calls them simply &#8220;the people in between.&#8221; Thus the strategic necessity for Zionists and pro-Israelis to exert such dominance in media. In a system of governance based on informed consent, it&#8217;s essential to Israel&#8217;s success that their operatives put a barrier between a target population (such as the U.S.) and the real facts. That&#8217;s HOW you displace facts with what &#8220;the mark&#8221; can be deceived to believe. Thus the role, for example, of Wolf Blitzer who served 17 years with The Jerusalem Post and also served as an editor of Near East Report, the in-house journal of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (i.e., the Israel lobby). He even wrote a book on Israeli super-spy Jonathan Pollard, the fellow who stole more than one million classified documents. Likewise Judith Miller at the New York Times who parroted the fixed intelligence from Ahmad Chalabi, the Iraqi liar who was recruited by Richard Perle &#038; Co two decades ago to ensure a &#8220;reliable&#8221; source to induce us to invade Iraq in response to the mass murder of 9-11. In theory, the airwaves belong to the American public. That&#8217;s why federal rules ensure that no one person can monopolize outlets. Yet what good does that do if those who own the outlets share the same undisclosed bias &#8212; which is what we now face. The inescapable reality is that this is how warfare is waged in the Information Age. Why would anyone expect it to be otherwise? Without exception, &#8220;the people in between&#8221; in this essential domain are Zionists and/or pro-Israeli. The Framers were very clear about the centrality of media in maintaining the informed populace required for informed consent. By dominating that &#8220;in between&#8221; domain, mainstream media enables high treason &#8212; in plain sight. As people grasp &#8220;how&#8221; this duplicity proceeds in plain sight, they will see for themselves who and why. At present, governments committed to systems of informed choice (aka liberty) are steadily losing ground, particularly here in the so-called bastion of freedom.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Gates</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/26/nuke-gaza-a-world-gone-mad/comment-page-1/#comment-29128</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Gates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And that&#039;s just the ones that become apparent. The real problem is much, much deeper. The Israelis are very candid about how they operate. I post below an excerpt from Guilt By Association explaining the key force-multiplying impact of sayanim, a Hebrew word denoting volunteers -- who are riddled throughout the government at the federal, state and local level. You&#039;ll find on the Criminal State website the introduction to Guilty By Association, the first release in the Criminal State series, where you&#039;re find an extended explanation of HOW Israel wages war on the U.S. in plain sight -- from within. Here&#039;s an excerpt explaining what is, in effect, a reserve army: 

•	Sayanim (singular sayan) play an essential support role. Hebrew for volunteers or helpers, sayanim are shielded from culpability by being told only enough to perform their narrow role. Though they may play an essential task in the commission of a far broader crime, these volunteers could pass a polygraph test because Mossad recruiters ensure they are kept ignorant of the intended result.

Akin to military reservists, sayanim are activated when their skills are required to support Israeli operations. They agree to remain “on call” for missions they believe are in the best interest of Israel. In effect, sayanim operate as a cost-effective undercover corps. When not engaged in an operation, they gather and report intelligence useful to Israel. The assistance of sayanim may be logistics, medical care or intelligence gathering. Sayanim also operate as the people in between in legislative bodies worldwide. Morris Amitay, a former executive director of the Israel lobby (AIPAC), explains:

There are a lot of guys at the working level up here [on Capitol Hill]…who happen to be Jewish, who are willing…to look at certain issues in terms of their Jewishness…These are all guys who are in a position to make the decision in these areas for those senators…You can get an awful lot done just at the staff level. 

As federal grand juries are impaneled to identify and indict the people in between who are involved in this trans-generational operation, how many sayanim should the Federal Bureau of Investigation expect to identify? No one knows. Former Mossad case officer Victor Ostrovsky wrote in 1990 that the Mossad had 7,000 sayanim on which it could rely in London alone.  If that volunteer population is divided by London’s 1990 population of 6.8 million, sayanim then represented one-tenth of one percent of the population of that capital city. 

If the capital of the United States is, say, four times more important to Israel’s geopolitical goals than the capital of the United Kingdom, does that mean the FBI should expect four times more sayanim per capita in Washington, D.C.? What about sayanim in New York, Los Angeles, Miami, Atlanta, Boston, Cleveland, Denver, Phoenix, Minneapolis, Chicago, Philadelphia, Houston, St. Louis, San Diego, Seattle, Tampa? No one knows. And Tel Aviv is unlikely to volunteer the information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that&#8217;s just the ones that become apparent. The real problem is much, much deeper. The Israelis are very candid about how they operate. I post below an excerpt from Guilt By Association explaining the key force-multiplying impact of sayanim, a Hebrew word denoting volunteers &#8212; who are riddled throughout the government at the federal, state and local level. You&#8217;ll find on the Criminal State website the introduction to Guilty By Association, the first release in the Criminal State series, where you&#8217;re find an extended explanation of HOW Israel wages war on the U.S. in plain sight &#8212; from within. Here&#8217;s an excerpt explaining what is, in effect, a reserve army: </p>
<p>•	Sayanim (singular sayan) play an essential support role. Hebrew for volunteers or helpers, sayanim are shielded from culpability by being told only enough to perform their narrow role. Though they may play an essential task in the commission of a far broader crime, these volunteers could pass a polygraph test because Mossad recruiters ensure they are kept ignorant of the intended result.</p>
<p>Akin to military reservists, sayanim are activated when their skills are required to support Israeli operations. They agree to remain “on call” for missions they believe are in the best interest of Israel. In effect, sayanim operate as a cost-effective undercover corps. When not engaged in an operation, they gather and report intelligence useful to Israel. The assistance of sayanim may be logistics, medical care or intelligence gathering. Sayanim also operate as the people in between in legislative bodies worldwide. Morris Amitay, a former executive director of the Israel lobby (AIPAC), explains:</p>
<p>There are a lot of guys at the working level up here [on Capitol Hill]…who happen to be Jewish, who are willing…to look at certain issues in terms of their Jewishness…These are all guys who are in a position to make the decision in these areas for those senators…You can get an awful lot done just at the staff level. </p>
<p>As federal grand juries are impaneled to identify and indict the people in between who are involved in this trans-generational operation, how many sayanim should the Federal Bureau of Investigation expect to identify? No one knows. Former Mossad case officer Victor Ostrovsky wrote in 1990 that the Mossad had 7,000 sayanim on which it could rely in London alone.  If that volunteer population is divided by London’s 1990 population of 6.8 million, sayanim then represented one-tenth of one percent of the population of that capital city. </p>
<p>If the capital of the United States is, say, four times more important to Israel’s geopolitical goals than the capital of the United Kingdom, does that mean the FBI should expect four times more sayanim per capita in Washington, D.C.? What about sayanim in New York, Los Angeles, Miami, Atlanta, Boston, Cleveland, Denver, Phoenix, Minneapolis, Chicago, Philadelphia, Houston, St. Louis, San Diego, Seattle, Tampa? No one knows. And Tel Aviv is unlikely to volunteer the information.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Gates</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/26/nuke-gaza-a-world-gone-mad/comment-page-1/#comment-29127</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Gates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s considerably worse than what you suggest. The out-of-pocket outlays are miniscule in comparison to the &quot;but for&quot; costs in both blood and treasure. Would we have this war in the Middle East but for this entangled alliance? Many veterans shed blood in Europe, Korea, Vietnam and elsewhere in the name of freedom. What would be the status of that hard-earned credibility but for this &quot;special relationship.&quot; Nobel economist Joe Stiglitz puts the cost of the current war at $3 trillion, keeping in mind that every cent has been borrowed, suggesting some $700 billion in just interest costs alone -- paid to whom (the wealthy and the Chinese government?). Any injured vet knows the deferred costs. The suicide rate is likely to be some multiple that of Vietnam, particularly when today&#039;s veterans finally awaken to the long obvious fact that a purported ally deceive us to wage their war for an expansionist agenda -- i.e., PRECISELY what the Joint Chiefs warned more than six decades ago. When the veterans of today realize that Members of the House and Senate are, even now, supporting this treachery, what recourse do they have against those complicit? What do active duty flag rank officers do when they realize that their oath of office requires that they defend this nation from all enemies, both foreign and domestic, but that many of those enemies have imbedded themselves in high office? What then? What is the cost that this &quot;state&quot; has imposed on us? Surely the &quot;but for&quot; costs must include, at a minimum, the cost of this latest war? What about the next one that this &quot;state&quot; is now busying working to provoke? What if the game theory-foreseeable dynamics destabilize Pakistan? Does anyone REALLY believe that Israel is an ally? If so, pray tell why? The confirmed facts point to a very sophisticated enemy within that, to date, has routinely succeeded in deceiving us to commit our blood and treasure for their extremist agenda. And what is our payoff? We look guilty by association, period, full stop. To fix it, face it -- we&#039;ve been had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s considerably worse than what you suggest. The out-of-pocket outlays are miniscule in comparison to the &#8220;but for&#8221; costs in both blood and treasure. Would we have this war in the Middle East but for this entangled alliance? Many veterans shed blood in Europe, Korea, Vietnam and elsewhere in the name of freedom. What would be the status of that hard-earned credibility but for this &#8220;special relationship.&#8221; Nobel economist Joe Stiglitz puts the cost of the current war at $3 trillion, keeping in mind that every cent has been borrowed, suggesting some $700 billion in just interest costs alone &#8212; paid to whom (the wealthy and the Chinese government?). Any injured vet knows the deferred costs. The suicide rate is likely to be some multiple that of Vietnam, particularly when today&#8217;s veterans finally awaken to the long obvious fact that a purported ally deceive us to wage their war for an expansionist agenda &#8212; i.e., PRECISELY what the Joint Chiefs warned more than six decades ago. When the veterans of today realize that Members of the House and Senate are, even now, supporting this treachery, what recourse do they have against those complicit? What do active duty flag rank officers do when they realize that their oath of office requires that they defend this nation from all enemies, both foreign and domestic, but that many of those enemies have imbedded themselves in high office? What then? What is the cost that this &#8220;state&#8221; has imposed on us? Surely the &#8220;but for&#8221; costs must include, at a minimum, the cost of this latest war? What about the next one that this &#8220;state&#8221; is now busying working to provoke? What if the game theory-foreseeable dynamics destabilize Pakistan? Does anyone REALLY believe that Israel is an ally? If so, pray tell why? The confirmed facts point to a very sophisticated enemy within that, to date, has routinely succeeded in deceiving us to commit our blood and treasure for their extremist agenda. And what is our payoff? We look guilty by association, period, full stop. To fix it, face it &#8212; we&#8217;ve been had.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Gates</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/26/nuke-gaza-a-world-gone-mad/comment-page-1/#comment-29126</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Gates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chas Freeman (in a speech posted on the website of the National Council for US Arab Relations) puts the &quot;insolent cruelties&quot; of this &quot;state&quot; in perspective by simply reminding us of the remarkable power that the Israel lobby exerts: &quot;Mr. Netanyahu does not fear pressure from the Unites States to change course. he is confident that his American lobby will arrange for Congress to punish the president if the president tries to punish Israel for its intransigence.&quot; Keep in mind that an assassination campaign ensured that Tel Aviv would have &quot;no one to talk to&quot; on the Palestinian side. Israel does not want peace. Colonial Zionism requires serial well-timed crises, period, full stop. Thus the enormous peril should they fail to catalyze war with Iran because that will allow enough breathing space to reexamine just who provided the fixed intelligence that took us to war in Iraq for this agenda. Americans are not stupid; they&#039;re just woefully (and purposefully) misinformed. An informed electorate will unwind this entangled alliance and begin to hold accountable those who enabled this. As for J Street, this looks like the latest &quot;progressive&quot; lipstick on the same old storyline. Let them acknowledge the common source and motivation behind the fixed intelligence. Let them concede the mythical nature of the rationale for this &quot;state.&quot; To date, they&#039;ve only played good cop to the Likud bad cop. Once they start acknowledging the REAL facts.... then they make a difference. Until then, it&#039;s a softer image on a hard reality that they have yet to concede.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chas Freeman (in a speech posted on the website of the National Council for US Arab Relations) puts the &#8220;insolent cruelties&#8221; of this &#8220;state&#8221; in perspective by simply reminding us of the remarkable power that the Israel lobby exerts: &#8220;Mr. Netanyahu does not fear pressure from the Unites States to change course. he is confident that his American lobby will arrange for Congress to punish the president if the president tries to punish Israel for its intransigence.&#8221; Keep in mind that an assassination campaign ensured that Tel Aviv would have &#8220;no one to talk to&#8221; on the Palestinian side. Israel does not want peace. Colonial Zionism requires serial well-timed crises, period, full stop. Thus the enormous peril should they fail to catalyze war with Iran because that will allow enough breathing space to reexamine just who provided the fixed intelligence that took us to war in Iraq for this agenda. Americans are not stupid; they&#8217;re just woefully (and purposefully) misinformed. An informed electorate will unwind this entangled alliance and begin to hold accountable those who enabled this. As for J Street, this looks like the latest &#8220;progressive&#8221; lipstick on the same old storyline. Let them acknowledge the common source and motivation behind the fixed intelligence. Let them concede the mythical nature of the rationale for this &#8220;state.&#8221; To date, they&#8217;ve only played good cop to the Likud bad cop. Once they start acknowledging the REAL facts&#8230;. then they make a difference. Until then, it&#8217;s a softer image on a hard reality that they have yet to concede.</p>
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