Comments on: Right-Wing Extremist Group on Active Military Duty

By: donald rutledge

donald rutledge — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 04:51:27 +0000

when you take you oath to the u.s. constitution, did you mean it? i served many years and my right hand didn’t come down, have any of you read the u.s. constitution and the bill fo rights do you as veterans know yours rights as an american? i challenge you to read these documents and to study it and then look at the world we live in and watch the news, i am an oathkeeper i kept my oath when i joined in 1981. we as an org is growing we have over 14,000 and growing very day, we have pastors, law enforcement, military, even government reps, i challenge you as an veteran to look into your hearts and decide, we have issues in this country and un-constitution laws that have been broken, example remember katrina when law enforcement and military disarmed americans, well, i do this was a violation of the 2nd amend of the u.s. constitution. and that was under george bush now we have healthcare, bailouts, earmarks, climate change, etc. these items are not in the u.s. constitution. honor your oath and join us at oathkeeper we want only our u.s. constitution to be adhered to and not be trashed like it is now.

By: Giarmo in OK

Giarmo in OK — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 15:19:13 +0000

Reason surfaced, that is, rose to the top, when Lt. Col Lynn gave the correct assertion concerning the nature of the SPLC. But the journalists of this publication are not all conservative in their orientation, and some will continue to look to news containing misrepresentations from various sources which will shed a better light on organizations such as SPLC. My congrats to Lt. Col Lynn

By: soldierguardian@twitter

soldierguardian@twitter — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:06:11 +0000

The photo (along with a short paragraph) was submitted by the dirtbag soldier to the oathkeeper website. This group is a subversive organization; anyone who thinks otherwise has been hittin’ the koolaid too much. As an Army and CG vet, still serving (21years total, both Sr NCO and officer), I find it alarming that such a group, that claims to be patriotic, would stand for such subversive, unConstitutional, and unAmerican looniness. Surely the FBI, DHS, and the Secret Service are keeping tabs on them. I hope the military is tracking troops who belong to the organization!

By: A.J.

A.J. — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:32:48 +0000

A photo on its site showing (it says) “an active duty Oath Keeper in Mosul, Iraq” ??? Please, this is not evidence. We can’t really know if this is even in Iraq.

By: Dennis Rick

Dennis Rick — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:05:45 +0000

Yea, and how many gang bangers are in the military just to learn combat ways? Or how many left-wingers are in just to leak out classify info?

What a stupid article, once again.

By: Lt. Colonel Robert A. Lynn Florida Guard

Lt. Colonel Robert A. Lynn Florida Guard — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:41:53 +0000

The REAL question that needs to be asked here isn’t about the Oathkeepers, Masons, or any other groups represented in the U.S. military (they will always be there because our Armed Forces are drawn from across the spectrum of our society) but the SPLC and their dubious claims of an increase in supposed militia groups across this country. The SPLC headed by Morris Dees or Sleaze runs a shakedown operation that uses scare tactics to raise money. This is just the latest con that he and the SPLC is running. They have been investigated by both the local papers and the Nation (to name just a few) and their articles don’t paint a flattering picture of it. They are given the grade of F by a watchdog charity agency that grades these type of organizations. Their report is less than flattering as well. As a currently serving officer and former enlisted U.S. Marine (Vietnam veteran), I find their accusations both baseless and false. Please, Veterans Today, don’t publish anything by this organization on this web site.

By: CWO4 Gourley usa ret.

CWO4 Gourley usa ret. — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:10:07 +0000

The troop in the picture is wearing unauthorized additions to his uniform. His commander / platoon ldr must be one also, to allow it. After all they are called uniforms for a reason

By: jr

jr — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 06:53:29 +0000

people must enjoy being enalaved or they would rise up and change things.patriotic about what!it reminds me of abused children who continue to love the person who abuses them.i would not love anyone who abuses me!

By: Tom Barnes

Tom Barnes — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 05:15:35 +0000

Amen to that!

By: Robert

Robert — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:26:44 +0000

This American soldier has come to find peace in a form of patriotism as the antidote to endless war.
The recessive economy, that is currently being experienced, has affected only the common people, like this soldier will become upon his return.
These have been forced out of the markets, their savings and retirement accounts have been depleted, their homes have been repossessed, and their jobs have been terminated. Their losses were reflected only briefly by a downturn in the markets into which they had been lured by their own greed and by the tempters of the financial world who offered them wealth without honest endeavor.
In truth the moneyed internationalist investors have at a rock bottom price acquired their assets causing the markets to rebound, but the jobs, homes, savings and tabgibles were not regained. The wealth has been transferred from the many unto the few who control their destinies.

By: Tom Barnes

Tom Barnes — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:05:14 +0000

I strongly suspect that the situation outlined above, where active duty federal soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen have strong ties to non-military groups, is not unprecedented. Lets take a quick look.

The overwhelming majority of generals and admirals that have run for office after their careers were finished aligned themselves with the most conservative political party of that day, whatever it might have been. I have no evidence to support this claim, but I would guess that most of the officer corps in the U.S. Armed Forces today are right wing Republicans or at least extreme conservative types.

Groups such as the Freemasons have long been represented in the Armed Forces. I know because I am a Blue Lodge Mason, a Scottish Rite Mason and a Shriner.

I knew several Rosicrucians while I was in the Service and I knew one young guy whose parents were card carrying communists.

I knew several French Canadians who were serving on active duty in the U.S. Coast Guard when I served there who had family ties to Candadian separatist groups.

He shall go nameless, but I knew of one U.S. Coast Guardsman who had strong family ties reaching back decades among the Irish Republican Army and I knew one Scottish American chief radioman in the U.S. Coast Guard who had family ties to a seperatist Scottish group with violent tendencies and that was in the early 1980s.

In 1983-1984 while assigned as an instructor to Coast Guard Yeoman School in Petaluma, California, I had several bad experiences with a large group of Coast Guardsmen that somehow or other had gotten themselves involved with an extreme anti-Catholic Bible Ministry headquartered in San Francisco. It was absolutely bizare.

On the ship in which I served as a chief yeoman, USCGC RUSH (WHEC 723) from Oct 1984 until July 1987 I served with a guy who was a Native American and a third class machinery technician. He was a cousin to Leonard Pelltier, the American Indian who was convicted of shooting and killing an FBI agent in the 1970s. He made no secret of his hatred for the FBI.

What I am trying to say is that this whole idea of an "untainted" mind serving in uniform, that is a mind that has no allegiance to any sort of ideology other than the Code of Conduct for Service men and women is unrealistic. Some of the most radical and unstable people I have ever met in my lifetime wore a U.S. uniform. And that was almost thirty five years ago.

In my limited experience with "outside influences" in the U.S. Armed Forces, they are a hell of a lot more prevelant than anyone would think.

CWO3 Tom Barnes, USCG (Ret.)