Our last poster, Mr. Rick, was a VA employee, though probably not responsible for EVERYTHING.  He should tell us if he was able to do anything to help.

Bill Eckard, a new writer, did 34 years at the VA.  He verifies all you say…told me they had personnel assigned to shred mail when it came in…

Everything you have written….is totally accurate and hundreds of thousands of us know it. 

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I have VA’s own documentation, etc. of it, and it’s employees violating HIPAA Laws, US Laws, VA Policies and Procedures, violating Federal Codes of Ethics, lying to US Senators, Fraud, Freedom of Information Act violations, etc. etc. yet our Elected Officials, Law Enforcement Agencies, etc. do not even wish to see it, much less take actions for the crimes committed!
My problem is that I have physical barriers, and also don’t know how to get it all together, write it up for the Media, etc. that will help! Anyone that can offer any advise, or can help me with this please send me an email! Maybe we can help keep another veteran from being subject to the same provable crimes I have!

Marc C. Daniele
US Army, 100% Disabled Veteran
m6c9d2000@yahoo.com

You have been repeatedly banned from this site for Terms of Service violations.  We will block this IP address and you can move to another proxy if you like. 

However, you are still a sad and distrubed individual. 

If you are a veteran, please see your local health care provider.  As useless a person as you are to us, you may have a mother that still loves you.

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It is a KNOWN FACT THAT CLINTON’s Intell was bad and he pass that on to BUSH, PROVEN FACT!!!!

IT’S ALSO a PROVEN FACT that CLINTON, KERRY (who sat in the intell committee) SAID over and over that IRAQ had WMD’s and even VOTED to go into Iraq (all except Kerry and he knew it was all a lie). PROVEN again…………..

Now as far as Cheney’s daughter, she is enttilted to her opinion wether it be a right or left wing nut…She is probally a better person then you to begin with for you are a coward as far as I’m concern.

This has to be one of the worst of worst articles ever written by this so call site of cowards and liars….

You attack Cheney’s daughter I attack you asshole…You stop with the personnal attacks, other people here have been warn when they attack people of your staff..but, thats gives you the right to attack and not go by your owns rules..making you an ass and a total one…

Like I said PROVE IT and not some left wing nut article that says I “Think” so or this is what happen and doesn’t have one bit of proof, but thinks they are right.

This whole thing is about taking the heat off Obama and his complete inability to lead this country, so you go back to the attack Bush and his admin again .

Well, you might get the hand full of idiots who read and believe your lies, but I for one don’t. YOUR A LIAR plain and simple..

You must think people don’t read (well your side don’t) and look at everything and not just one thing and try to pin every war lost on Bush and every thing that has happen dating back to 1620 that it was Bush’s fault..Your an idiot.

When you hit Vietnam, American had become professional at, not only ignoring and abusing vets but worshipping piece of shit politicians.

Every time I hear someone cheering on some phony piece of shit politican because he squawks to the NRA, VFW or the American Taliban about how he is going to take over the world, save their guns and punish the imaginary communists…

don’t get me started.

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As far as what’s right. That’s a different discussion.
Jim

Kind of depend on this….if there are conspiracies…if there is a secret government…if we are all being lied to all the time…

all of which is true of course….

the folks here will know…and some of them may be involved.

What we should be doing…is asking questions, all of us.  Then we can turn our bullshit meters on…

One of the points I made recently….BIN LADEN IS DEAD AS SHIT…BEEN THAT WAY FOR YEARS

if this is true…and it is

and it can be proven

and it can

then…what the hell has been going on since December 13, 2001….when bin Laden was planted in a small grave at Tora Bora?

we can go further…bin Laden had absolutely NOTHING to do with 9/11….

what the hell has been going on here?  those of us who travel….some of us continually….have people look at us like we are total idiots because we are Americans.

think of mrs clinton in pakistan talking about bin laden and terrorism.  NOBODY IN PAKISTAN BELIEVES BIN LADEN IS ALIVE…NOBODY

BUT..THEY ALL THINK OUR SECRETARY OF STATE IS TOTALLY NUTS

Is this a good thing?

Don’t answer that.

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I wish I had your way with words.  How the hell can we talk to each other when there are still people around nutty enough to praise the people who already killed us?

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A new phrase you might like, wingers and birthers they are rather dated and are old labels. They have evolved into the “Bevis and Butthead” Conservatives. The best on can say about Richard Cheney is that he is a pathetic creature. Other Buttheads include the marring men Girngrich and Barr, the serial adulter like the late Henry Hyde, Livingston, Gingrich and Barr (again) and the late but not so great Christian Conservatives.

Then their are the know nothing buttheads like William Bennett, Rush, and Ann and of course all of the FOX news network.

A good sign Duff, while at the SDVAMC last week in Area 1, as usual they had FOX News on the TV, a Veteran actually asked the security guard to change the channel, noting that the President says FOX is not a legitimate news network. Of course the security guard didn’t have the authority to change the channel, but hey it’s a start.

Bush W. is in a class all of the own. The “What Me Worry” Republicans.

ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

I am a 100% disabled Vietnam vet…Marine grunt with tons of bush time.  Frankly, I am always surprised when a combat vet will listen to tough guy talk from an deserter and a pack of draft dodgers.

It makes me think that something may have broken his spirit a bit.

Whenever I hear tough guy talk from someone that ducked military service….the GOP chickenhawk brigade…

Here is the full list of GOP …good and bad…read and learn: 

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Chickenhawk Database History of the NH Gazette

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CHICKENHAWK HEADQUARTERS
Name Employer Year
Born Relevant
Conflict
Avoided Lame
Excuse Preferred
Activity
Bush, George W Citizenry 1946 Vietnam A.W.O.L.
Cheney, Dick Citizenry 1941 Vietnam "had other priorities"

BARKING HEAD BRIGADE
Name Employer Year
Born Relevant
Conflict
Avoided Lame
Excuse Preferred
Activity
Hume, Brit Faux TV 1943 Vietnam
Keyes, Alan Faux TV 1950 Vietnam Harvard
Limbaugh, David Radio? 1952 Vietnam National Guard
Limbaugh, Rush Radio 1951 Vietnam anal cysts
Reagan, Michael Radio? unk Vietnam

THE BUREAUCRATIC BATTALION
Name Position Year
Born Relevant
Conflict
Avoided Lame
Excuse Preferred
Activity
Abraham, Spencer Energy Sec. 1952 Vietnam Harvard Law
Abrams, Elliott State Dept. 1948 Vietnam bad back college, grad school
Adelman, Ken Bureaucrat unk Vietnam skin rash
Bolton, John State Dept. 1948 Vietnam
Card, Andrew High-Level Flunky 1947 Vietnam
Evans, Don Commerce Sec. 1946 Vietnam Sigma Alpha Epsilon
Hutchinson, Asa Drug Tsar 1950 Vietnam
Perle, Richard Bureaucrat 1941+C59 Vietnam
Pitt, Harvey Bureaucrat unk Vietnam Law school
Stockman, David Budget-Boy 1946 Vietnam
Thompson, Tommy Bureaucrat 1947 Vietnam National Guard
Walters, John Drug Tsar unk Vietnam
Wolfowitz, Paul Bureaucrat unk Vietnam

JAG
Name Position Year
Born Relevant
Conflict
Avoided Lame
Excuse Preferred
Activity
Ashcroft, John "Justice" 1942 Vietnam teaching business ed
Kennedy, Arthur Judge of sorts 1936 Vietnam lawyering
Olson, Ted Solicitor General unk Vietnam
Scalia, Antonin Associate Justice Vietnam
Starr, Ken Persecutor 1947 Vietnam psoriasis
Thomas, Clarence Tool 1948 Vietnam

THE POLITICIANS PLATOON
Name Franchise Year
Born Relevant
Conflict
Avoided Lame
Excuse Preferred
Activity
Alexandar, Lamar ex-Gov. (Tenn.) Vietnam
Barr, Bob US House (R-Ga.) 1948 Vietnam
Bartlett, Roscoe US House (R-MD) 1926 WWII
Bauer, Gary None 1946 Vietnam
Blunt, Roy US House (R-Mo.) 1950 Vietnam
Bush, Jeb Gov. – Fla. 1953 Vietnam
Chambliss, Saxby US House (R-Ga.) 1943 Vietnam bad knees running
Craig, Larry Senator (R-Idaho) 1945 Vietnam
DeLay, Tom US House (R-Tex) 1947 Vietnam attended grad school
Engler, John Gov. – Mich. 1948 Vietnam "too fat," by 8 lbs.
Gingrich, Newt ex-US House (R-Ga.) 1943 Vietnam attended grad school
Giuliani, Rudy ex-Mayor, NYC 1944 Vietnam
Gramm, Phil Senate (R-Tex.) 1942 Vietnam marriage deferment
Hastert, Dennis US House (R-Ill.) 1942 Vietnam bad knees wrestling coach (huh?)
Hutchinson, Tim Senate (R-Ark.) 1949 Vietnam
Keating, Frank Gov. – Okla. 1944 Vietnam
Kemp, Jack ex-US House (R-NY) 1935 Vietnam bum knee football
Lieberman, Joe Senate (Conn.) 1942 Vietnam
Lott, Trent Senate (R-Miss.) 1941 Vietnam cheerleader
McConnell, Mitch Senator (R-Ky.) 1942 Vietnam lawyering
Meyers, Herbert House Candidate, Wash. 1943/46 Vietnam
Nickles, Don Senator (R-Okla.) 1948 Vietnam cushy Guard slot
Quayle, Dan Veep 1947 Vietnam National Guard
Reagan, Ronald Prez 1911 WWII Hollywood
Romney, Mitt None yet 1947 Vietnam BYU
Shelby, Richard Senator (R-Ala.) 1934 Vietnam
Souder, Mark US House (R-IN) 1050 Vietnam
Stone, Roger Consultant 1952± Vietnam
Weber, Vin Politician 1952 Vietnam
Weld, William ex-Gov. – Mass. 1945 Vietnam

THE PROPAGANDA PLATOON
Name Employer Year
Born Relevant
Conflict
Avoided Lame
Excuse Preferred
Activity
Adelman, Ken Right-Wing Conspiracy unk Vietnam?
Ailes, Roger Faux TV 1940 Vietnam
Bartley, Robert Wall St. unk Korea?
Blitzer, Wolf CNN 1948 Vietnam
Boortz, Neal Syndic. 1945 Vietnam
Clancy, Tom Self-Amused ? Vietnam
Coulter, Ann Right-Wing Conspiracy unk Desert Storm
Doocy, Steve Faux-TV unk Desert Storm
Feder, Don Syndic. unk Vietnam law school
Forbes, Steve News Baron 1947 Vietnam
Gottlieb, Alan Syndic. unk Vietnam National Guard
Greenwood, Lee Record racket unk Vietnam
Hannity, Sean Faux TV unk post-Vietnam
Harvey, Paul ? 1918 WWII
Kilmeade, Brian Faux-TV unk Desert Storm
Kristol, William Vanity Press unk Vietnam
Ledeen, Michael Think Tank Commando unk Vietnam
Medved, Michael ? 1948 Vietnam taught 3rd grade
McRaney, Gerald Hollywood 1947 Vietnam
Olasky, Marvin U-Texas J-School 1950± Vietnam
O’Reilly, Bill Faux TV 1949 Vietnam
O’Rourke, P.J. Self-Amused 1947 Vietnam
Savage, Michael Radio unk Vietnam
Snow, Tony Faux TV unk Vietnam
Stallone, Sylvester La-La Land 1946 Vietnam private girls school
Stein, Ben Comedy Channel 1944 Vietnam attended law school
Tyrrell, R. Emmett Propagandist unk Vietnam
Wayne, John Propagandist 1907 WWII
Will, George Propagandist 1941 Vietnam Divinity School

NEW HAMPSHIRE NOTABLES
Name Position
or
Employer Year
Born Relevant
Conflict
Avoided Lame
Excuse Preferred
Activity
Bass, Charlie Politician 1952 Vietnam
Carmen, Gerald DC Lobbyist 1930 Korea college
Chandler, John PH Ancestors? 1911 WWII pencil pushing
Douglas, Chuck Unk 1942 Vietnam
Finnegan, Jim Bill Loeb 1930 Korea disk jockey
Gregg, Judd Politician 1947 Vietnam bad knees, acne college
Lessner, Dick Bill Loeb unk Vietnam divinity school
Loeb, William Beelzebub 1905 WWII
McQuaid, Joe Bill Loeb 1949 Vietnam "trick shoulder" copy boy
Rath, Tom Legal clients 1945 Vietnam law school
Thomson, Meldrim Taxpayer 1912 WWII pencil pushing
Thomson, Robb Taxpayer 1952 Vietnam
Thomson, Peter Taxpayer 1941 Vietnam
Tibbetts, Don Bill Loeb 1930 Korea disk jockey

SUI GENERIS SQUAD
Name Modus
Operandi Year
Born Relevant
Conflict
Avoided Lame
Excuse Preferred
Activity
Bennett, Bill Public Scold 1943 Vietnam attended grad school
Cohn, Roy Creep 1927 Korea terrorism
Falwell, Jerry Holy Man 1933 Korea
Gaffney, Frank Missile Salesman 1953 Vietnam zits
Graham, Billy Holy man 1918 WWII
LaPierre, Wayne Head Gun Nut unk Vietnam
Nugent, Ted Noisemaker 1948 Vietnam
Robertson, Pat Holy Man 1930 Korea
Rove, Karl Puppeteer 1950 Vietnam many schools; no degrees
Sinatra, Frank Entertainer 1915 WWII punctured eardrum

Chickenhawk Notes
Definition

A chickenhawk is a term often applied to public persons – generally male – who (1) tend to advocate, or are fervent supporters of those who advocate, military solutions to political problems, and who have personally (2) declined to take advantage of a significant opportunity to serve in uniform during wartime.

Some individuals may qualify more for their political associations than for any demonstrated personal tendency towards bellicosity. Some women may be included for exceptional bellicosity.

There is another, less savory definition of the term chickenhawk. It is not relevant to this discussion; we intend no such associations to be drawn here.

This list is provisonal. The management of the Gazette is proud to have served the vital public function of assembling the best known list of American chickenhawks, but we confess – we declare and emphasize – that we have not the resources to tend to it properly. Therefore we declare it provisional: we acknowledge there may be faults – hell, we know there are.

Errors and Omissions

Anyone falsely characterized as a chickenhawk is particularly welcome to correct any errors. We encourage every interested American to feel free to nominate chickenhawks, or to fill in missing information. Nominations are solicited from all sources.

History

We assembled an earlier version of this list by merging two or three less complete lists. We then added more than a score of names ourselves. We posted the list to the Gazette’s website in March, where it seemed to catch the public’s interest. Twenty or more names were then added to create the list as you see it here.

Chickenhawk Details
George W. Bush: Yeah, right. He was in uniform. Big deal. See http://www.awolbush.com/

Bill Clinton: He may have launched a few cruise missiles to distract us from a dalliance with a girl half his age, but our judges believe he wasn’t bellicose enough to make the cut. Your mileage may vary.

Tom Delay: "DeLay’s excuse for having a yellow streak as wide as the Rio Grande down his back is truly imaginative, if you take a delight in the bizarre. The man who believes Dioxin is good for you (again, we are not making this up), claims that he volunteered for Vietnam, but all the spots were taken up by minorities, so he was not allowed to serve. Clearly all those years of exposure to toxic chemicals had some serious side effects on ‘Ol Tom." – Esther and/or Jeff Clark

Sean Hannity: Too young for ‘Nam, but anyone that bellicose could have horned in on Panama or Desert Storm somehow.

Paul Harvey: A complicated case. We’re working on a dossier.

Trent Lott: "Dear Sir or Madam, Please be advised that Trent "Cheerleader" Lott is NOT a senator from Louisiana as you have mislabeled him but rather from the state of Mississippi. We have enough problems in Louisiana without someone thinking this toupee wearing, right wing fop is our Senator! – Please correct your entry and keep up the good work! – Rev. Kenneth M. Kafoed"

Ted Nugent: An amusing case. We’re working on a dossier.

Richard Perle: We’re working on a dossier.

Ronald Reagan: A complicated case. He remains listed because our judges believe his bellicosity outweighs his relatively painless service.

Pat Robertson: As we recall it, Pete McCloskey charged that Robertson’s father got him posted to Japan shortly after his unit arrived in Korea. Robertson responded with a libel suit, which he later dropped. "[His own] libel suit [against fellow former Marine Pete McCloskey] turned out to be an embarrassment to Robertson. During depositions, Paul Brosnan, Jr., a retired university professor who served with Robertson in Korea, backed up [Congressman Pete] McCloskey’s claim and went even further, asserting that the televangelist had consorted with prostitutes and had sexually harassed a Korean cleaning girl who worked in the barracks." –Rob Boston, The Most Dangerous Man in America, Prometheus Books, 1996.

Steven Spielberg: We read his films as ultimately adding to the glorification of war. Perhaps we’re wrong. This nomination has been challenged, and is open to debate.

John Wayne: "Another notable Hollywood faker to consider is Marion Morrison. Born in 1907, he decided to jump past his competitors like Jimmy Stewart and Henry Fonda by using his married status as a reason to avoid volunteering for the cause. As John Wayne, a phony name for a phony man, he played a lot of war heroes, while he ran away from anything resembling patriotism, except the pose. – Ray Duray

Another Sort of Chickenhawk Altogether
We realized with a shudder today that with all the noise we’ve making about "chickenhawks" – who are in general a less-than inspiring lot – we’ve neglected to mention a self-described chickenhawk of an altogether different sort: Robert Mason.

Robert Mason was an Army helicopter pilot with the First Cavalry in Vietnam in 1965 and 1966. His best-selling memoir "Chickenhawk" will likely remain the definitive portrayal of the war as seen from the pilot’s seat of a Huey.

In 1984, when Mason’s "Chickenhawk" was on the New York Times best seller list, its author was in prison for trying to sail a boat full of marijuana into the country. How an ace Army helicopter pilot became a drug smuggler is revealed in Mason’s second book, "Chickenhawk: Back in the World."

It will come as no surprise to Mason’s fellow veterans that PTSD – Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder – had something to do with the course of his life after the war. Mason’s aptly-named wife Patience wrote a valuable book of her own, Recovering From the War: A Guide for all Veterans, Family Members, Friends, and Therapists, published by Viking in 1990.

The fact that the term "chickenhawk" applies to belligerent draft dodgers like Saxby Chambliss and Tom Delay, and to men like Robert Mason, is, as far as we can tell, simply further proof that if you follow something to its extreme, you may meet its opposite.

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The assembler of this information meditates on his own service in Vietnam, in
Cognitive Dissonance and Moral Imperatives, or, From One Morgue to Another

The alleged "gentlemen" listed in this database are here because they share three qualities: bellicosity (a warlike manner or temperament), public prominence, and a curious lack of wartime service when others their age had no trouble finding the fight. (Sorry, Dan and George W. and Dan Q. – your safe, cushy National Guard slots won’t help you now.) The fact that they’s almost all Republicans is … well, curious, don’t you think? No doubt this list is incomplete. Readers are encouraged to nominate their favorite overlooked chickenhawks.

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