We have a noncombat doctor who got off 400 rounds with a 357 in one hand and a clip gun in the other who killed 13 and wounded over 40. Move over Wyatt Earp, Billy the Kid and Jesse James you have just been supplanted in American lore in the field of gun play! This doc should have been combat because if he were the war in Afghanistan would already be over……

Where were the guns traced back to, who bought them, were they army issued?…….

Where are the other two guys picked up in connection with this and then released, what were their names, were they muslim, Israeli, or freckled faced Billy and Joe from Texas?………….

There was a lock down on Fort Hood and they want to see who is missing. They want evidence and anybody who saw anything. They especially want to know if anybody has any automatic weapon shell casings because that would make them look awfully stupid if there is any because the doctor was not supposed to have an assault weapon was he? I wonder if they want to make sure nobody saw any gunners who looked mideast type who weren’t muslims…………….

It would seem to me America is spending a lot on a military that can’t protect themselves, see USS Liberty, unstoppable planes flying over New York or Fort Hood Texas. It reminds me of the roman saying cuid ipso custodes….who will guard the guardians?………….

After breaking news the media has gone strangely silent after reporting multiple shooters and different areas of the base having gunfire. The only one who isn’t silent is kosher Joe Lieberman and Diane Feinstein. Joe thinks we need to look more closely at veterans military people and Americans citizens. They need watching! But that is how it always is isn’t it?……………….

Again, Duff…well stated.

“The FBI, Jewell said, trampled on his rights “in its rush to show the world it could get its man,” while the news media “cared nothing about my feelings as a human being” in its rush to get a story on the bombing.

Jewell was working as a private security guard in Centennial Olympic Park about 1 a.m. on July 27 when he noticed a suspicious unidentified package and began moving people away from it. The package turned out to contain a bomb, which eventually killed one person and wounded more than 100.

Initially hailed a hero for moving people away, he was later cast in a different light when the FBI began investigating whether he had set off the bomb to give himself an opportunity to be a hero.”

What is a verteran anyway? Is that Hebrew for veteran?

“The FBI, Jewell said, trampled on his rights “in its rush to show the world it could get its man,” while the news media “cared nothing about my feelings as a human being” in its rush to get a story on the bombing.

Jewell was working as a private security guard in Centennial Olympic Park about 1 a.m. on July 27 when he noticed a suspicious unidentified package and began moving people away from it. The package turned out to contain a bomb, which eventually killed one person and wounded more than 100.

Initially hailed a hero for moving people away, he was later cast in a different light when the FBI began investigating whether he had set off the bomb to give himself an opportunity to be a hero.”

What is a verteran anyway? Is that Hebrew for veteran?

http://afterarmageddon7.blogspot.com/2009/11/theories-and-facts-about-fort-hood.html

the only question that matters: is it true?

Iran has signed the NPT. As a signatory to the NPT, Iran may rightfully, legally, use nuclear technology for peaceful energy purposes. Iran has submitted to and passed repeated IAEA inspections. The US intelligence community (NIE) does not consider Iran a nuclear threat. Israel refuses to sign the NPT. Israel has an estimated several hundred undeclared nuclear weapons. Russia and China have warned that an attack on Iran will have global consequences. That’s the situation in a nutshell. Where to next, people? Where to?

Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? – Galatians 4:16
11.08.2009

theories and facts about Fort Hood

a loose compilation of things that sort of hang together:

1. excerpt from Christopher Story: Fort Hood: Recovery of the Chinese Currency Boxes

The shootings were staged in order to cover up what was really happening behind the scenes which was as follows:

(1): George H. W. D. V. D. Bush, the head of THE BOX GANG working with the Clintons, had stored some or all of the stolen/diverted 1933 dollar currency Chinese currency boxes referenced in our reports dated 4th and 5th November 2009 at Fort Hood. These boxes form part of the Settlement negotiated with the Chinese parties, who were immediately double-crossed by the Americans.

(2): We do not know at the time of posting whether George Bush Sr. had flown in to Fort Hood from Germany, but as this base is located close to Crawford and other Bush Crime Family locations, we believe this to be HIGHLY PROBABLE.

(3): Whether Bush Sr. flew into Fort Hood to be joined with the stolen/diverted Chinese-sourced currency boxes, or was accompanying stolen boxes on the plane, is not strictly material, because what we DO KNOW is as follows:

(4): An operation was mounted at Fort Hood to CONFISCATE THE STOLEN CHINESE CURRENCY BOXES FROM BUSH SR., which achieved its objective. The currency boxes, forming part of the Settlement that Adolf Schickelbusch sabotaged with the duplicitous assistance of his agent, Chancellor Angela Merkel [see preceding reports], were retrieved.

(5): It is likely that the shoot-out which occurred for public consumption was a diversionary operation masking a parallel shoot-out involving Bush bodyguards and US military, although we cannot confirm this. Certainly, the ‘mainstream’ media, as usual, is running the wrong story.

(6): The deployment of 500+ heavily armed troops, and the fact that military helicopters were called in, implies a sizeable operation, which would be make little sense in the context of a shooting such as is described in the media. That does not diminish the nastiness and tragedy of the loss of life as reported: but when this operation was planned, loss of life was factored into the equation.

• It’s called cynically: COLLATERAL DAMAGE.

I am wondering however when the Chinese guy gunned down students in Virginia did any of you call for war on Red China? Of course you didn’t because they can defend themselves and they would blow us up in return. Nothwithstanding the fact that they don’t have any oil or land Israel immediately wants to occupy.

http://smokingmirrors.blogspot.com/2009/11/november-8th-radio-show-and-little.html

(THIS IS ONE GUY’S OPINION ON THE WEB CAN ANY ONE DISPROVE IT?)
FALSEFLAG!!! said…
The Fort Hood shooting is looking more and more like a false flag.

Best explanation from the bits of facts one can gleen through the disinformation from the MSM is that Hasan was a patsy who fired no shots at all (sic).

That two or three government agents (most likely Mossad – to remove the killing of unarmed American moral complecation) dressed in army fatigues with rifles in the trasit terminal suddenly began shooting everyone including Hasan, and two civil police who rushed in. The rifle gunmen after a few short minutes of semiautomatic fire (>400 rounds) slipped out of the transit hall and were transported by a black SWAT van with engaged siren and bluelight at very high speed out of Fort Hood.
One of the civil police survived – although she has no recollection of shooting Hassan.
Hasan is rumoured to have survived.

If Hasan is the patsy he will NEVER be allowed to utter a single word EVER.
The reason is that he will disclose that it was not him but the two or three government agents who shot up the soldiers in the transit hall.
Hasan will be suicided.
Dead patsies never talk.
Compare Oswald.

Cui bono?
The Rothschildean, American, Zionist beast who needs public support (money) and more troops to go and kill the browned-skinned people to steal their oil and ressources and to make their country to agree to control by the private international banking cartel.

This was a false flag by the very same folks that brought us 9/11. No more, no less.

Terrorist….yes, absolutely.

This is one man.  Deal with the man.  Any time I hear the word "raghead" I think of John Hagee….and how no mullah or "raghead" is as totally nuts as this man….the inspiration behind the Bush administation.

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Keep us posted squalene is known to cause the immune system to attack itself. Lupus will most likely be the least of your problems.

I think where you went wrong is believing that Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK by himself, James Earl Ray shot Martin Luther King, jet fuel melts steel and leaves behind thermite traces, Jessica Lynch is the reincarnation of Annie Oakley, Timothy McVeigh is capable of constructing barium bombs (two of them) and his body was not buried or cremated contradicting policy and is nowhere to be found, David Koresh could not have been picked up in Waco where he jogged alone most mornings.

You believe Roosevelt who goaded the Japanese into attacking did not know it was coming, he and the fools around him sipped champagne when they heard the new, the Vietnamese attacked a ship in Tonkin Gulf and the Lusitania was avenged
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Now they want you to believe that a fellow never trained for combat, medical officer shot about forty people with a handgun in a military base. Hey, maybe next time we will see the storming of Fort Knox. You have to realize, a military base is not a Kentucky fried chicken place, but most of you believe it. Hasan is fresh in from Virginia Tech where a chinese student shot 32 other students. Hasan specializes in mind control combat reset. But suddenly he has morphed into al Queeda!

I have come to believe that the overwhelming majority of Americans will believe anything. It is one of the primary reasons America has attacked most of Europe, China, Korea, South America, Grenada, Panama, Chile, well this could go on forever you fill in the blank and it is called spreading democracy. Unfortunately those dead don’t get democracy and to them it matters little who won the war.

Who was it Sinclair Lewis who said when fascism comes to America it will come in the form of a flag wrapped around a cross. Well it is here, our leaders are corporate employees and they are leading the new crusades like you say and little things like the constitution and bill of rights are now minor annoyances. Matter of fact if you talk to much about this or you are a veteran you are to be looked upon with suspicion.

It is not that I don’t have a lot of compassion for Americans because they have been fed Fluoride, mercury, teflon, aluminum, monosodium glutinate, aspartame, chlorine and well fill in the blank once again. The new flu shots and frankenstein foods are the cutting edge however should speed up the depopulation agenda into warp speed.

No I firmly believe when the U.N. orders our George Town educated generals and troops to begin picking up Americans they are al queeda, our military and your neighbor will not only believe it but will help them. They will relish this new found sense of authority and intrigue. They will glow in their new role rooting out hippies, liberals, conservatives, rag heads, nazis, commies and whatever the call on their cellphone labels you as.

They can do that now you know, no lawyers, no reason, no warrant. That is not what my uncle died for and my father was wounded in Germany for. That is not freedom. So stop kidding yourselves you are not fighting any more for freedom. You are fighting for paychecks, big banks, oil companies and Israel.

So spare me the part about they hate our freedom, it is enough to make one puke.

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Point: A private physician or hospital would have filed the required report with the CDC on patients who experience negative reactions to H1N1 that are life threatening. The Air Force medical facility didn’t even treat me for the symptoms of the reaction let alone do any reporting to CDC. Well at least I didn’t go to an Army Hospital. SO MUCH FOR SOCIALIZED MEDICINE!!! Major Hanafin

Anyway, as I was doing battle with socialized medicine (young doctors, their students, and Hospace [another nightmare], this story of a Major acing fellow troops at a military processing center (press refused to use Mental Health, PTSD, or anyting vague related so that the military could continue hiding behind SOCIAL STIGMA as they practive SOCIALIZED MEDICINE).

Sure as hell gave me second and third thoughts, and I’m not a Muslim. However, I am a Retired Major who has opposed the war(s) from get go, not really for any moral, ethical, or religious reasons, but simply because the American people have never been committed to being part of well THE WARS!!!

That said, my last experience with the Air Force at least was one where I had to call a Medical doctor (could care less what rank she was, they don’t give a crap about mine), a head nurse (civilian contract), and a Airman tech on the carpet for being incompetent, violating two patients rights, dignity, and privacy (one of them choosing alternatives for dying) so on and so forth.

Heck, that was an Air Force Hospital that rarely sees an Army or Marine combat Vet. (That’s another beef I have with the war(s) the lack of shared sacrifice even between the services. Yes, the Air Force has the dirty job of bring the dead home, and even sending security forces to the war zone, but how come military medical capabilities are not combined under one command and share resources???).

When this story broke, my first response was Oh, Shit I should have kept my mouth shut, or they’ll put me in the luny bin just to shut me up.

Now all I see is the spin being place on it by the media and damage control instead of getting at the heart of the problem.

What could have been done to prevent such an incident of more importantly what can be done in the future?

Thus far, what I read continues to point towards the Major being right in his assessment about the war(s) being Christian CRUSADES, but extremely wrong in his approach to it.

There is Courage to Resist, quite a few enlisted people and a few officers have done so knowing the war(s) are CRUSADES against Islam (with Muslim taking the place of Communists), however none of them open fire on any military base to prove their point they simply QUIT with many paying the price.

Thus, I agree with those who say get the PC out of reporting on the war(s) and call them what they really are CRUSADES. So what if we tick off a few (precious few) Muslims who want to serve our country. Is their contributions really that significant. However, once we cut off Muslim enlistments what next?

What if a miracle happened and we found ourselves at war with Israel for continuing to spy on us, shot at our Naval Vessels, or even refuse to serve in allied operations with us due to PC. Hell, the only reason Christian troops are on a crusade in the Middle East is due to Joe Libermann and the influence of the Isreali lobby (but that’s putting it too simplistic).

The latest I saw from the chief instigator – AP  who unfortunately most mainstream media follows is biased, one-sided, and inflamatory against Muslims in the service period. Leads one who can think to think damn who owns AP and how much do they contribute to the Israeli lobby, Congress, and to control Presidents?
Some saw trouble ahead with Fort Hood shooter

- Dr. Hasan raised eyebrows with comments that the war on terror was "a war on Islam" and wrestled with what to tell fellow Muslim solders who had their doubts about fighting in Islamic countries.

Note: Dr. Hasan obviously did not raise eyebrows high enough. It is now the Obama administration, and Obama’s Pentagon, or I think so for even that is doubtful given it is run by Bush holdovers, including Generals and Admirals.

Experiment: Let’s see the Pentagon’s reaction to an Executive Order from the President allowing the mainstream media access to how our troops train to fight no shit Muslim extremists.

Point is: IS THE WAR ON TERROR A WAR ON ISLAM OR MUSLIM EXTREMISTS? Either way folks it IS A WAR ON ISLAM regardless what positive spin President Obama or other proponents of war place on it. Once again, I must strongly agree with those who post saying we need to call a Crusade a Crusade and get it over with.

That is the first investigative question being conveniently ignored.

Wait there’s more, check out the line of questioning and responses the reporter gets or frames to direct the story instead of report it. Major Hanafin.

"The system is not doing what it’s supposed to do," said Dr. Val Finnell, who complained to administrators at a military university about what he considered Dr. Hasan’s "anti-American" rants. "He at least should have been confronted about these beliefs, told to cease and desist, and to shape up or ship out."

Frankly, where are Dr. Finnell’s complaints documented, why were they not documented, how many witnesses did Dr. Finnell have who are as nationalistic as he is – PC aside.

What is missing here? What follow up questions or additional information should the reporter have gotten?

1. Dr. Finnell is evidently military, so what rank is he?

How many other military physicians not born in America does he know feel the same way (keep in mind the vast majority of professional medical personnel in America (a) would never join the military unless they had no other recourse to an education, and (b) even within our Armed Forces there is a significant number of foreign born doctors.

If any doctor regardless if he or she is treating heart patients, cancer patients,  PTSD patients, or refering patients to Hospice really felt as Dr. Finnel does that number must be known as accurately as possible, and they may not all be Muslim or terrorists as such. Oh, forgot Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist and Veteran?

AP also uses one example of one super patriotic physcian to make a point and what is their point?

2. Anti-American rants?

If I were the investigative reporter I would have asked Captain or Major Finnell exactly what did he mean by "anti-American" rants, was Dr. Hasan not commissioned as an American? That said, Dr. Finnell may have been onto something despite his professional ethnocentrism (for those of you with a GED like me ethnocentrism is a belief that your ethnic group, culture, society, or religion is superior to others put another way – YOU ARE AN ARROGANT SOB CONTRIBUTING THE FALL OF OUR ROMAN EMPIRE!).

However, regardless what one thinks of how Officer Finnell’s views are projected by the media, he does bring up a very valid point:

Why didn’t military authorities do anything to accomodate or discipline Dr. Hasan early on such as  a reprimand, court marshal, or best yet allow him to resign his commission, what have you?

Sure beats having a Conscientious Objector go on a shooting rampage! That said, why didn’t Dr. Hasan file an official CO application even if it would have been disapproved.

Word to the wise if you truly feel the way Dr. Hasan feels about the wars by all means fill out a CO application and find some way to pay your tuition back. Don’t let your ethical, spiritual, and moral feelings go the other terrorist way. Major Hanafin.

Dr. Finnell testifies that Dr. Hasan persistently complained about perceived anti-Muslim sentiment in the military and injected his politics into courses where they had no place.

Note two buzz words here used by the Neocon to shut down debate or even discussion of personal views on the war(s).

1. Is there perceived anti-Muslim sentiment in the military due to the way in which our troops are trained to well kill mostly Muslim extremists with of course collateral damage to well, Islam or is there no shit anti-Muslim views within our military PC aside?

Put another way I would have asked Dr. Finnel exactly what do you mean by perceived ant-Muslim sentiment there is or there is not? Is that your perception Dr. Finnell and what is that perception based on reality or what one Muslim, Dr. Hasan has said.

2. The other buzz word is "his or her politics."

Think on it. Anything a ethnocentric nationalist or someone who thinks anywhere near that extreme point of view allows discussion on the war(s) it is only as long as it is postive it is PATRIOTIC.

However, the very minutes ANYONE (Muslim, Christian, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist, Aethist) questions the war(s) it’s POLITICS.

STOP TALKING POLITICS is the PC buzz word used in VA Hospitals and of course on other socialized medical establishments like military bases to stiffle any dissent. They point at someone and say "don’t talk politics." Unless there is a clear PC patriotic, nationalistic, thing to say. Don’t say a God damn thing.

Frankly, I’ve learned how to play this game everytime I go anywhere near a VA or military medical facility I leave my principles, courage, and views at the entry way then pick them back up on the way out. However, that’s is how one must accept socialized medicine. Heck, it beats having no medical coverage at all. Hell, let’s not go there we’ve already wasted enough time on spreading VA and military medical care across the nation. Major Hanafin.

In retrospect, I’m not surprised he did it," Finnell said of the shootings. "I had real questions about what his priorities were, what his beliefs were."

Hold the phone, Dr. Finnel exactly what are your political and religious beliefs, we believe Dr. Hasan took both his religious and political beliefs to the extremes, but doe that means you can’t take your Crusade to extremes?

Well, since we are no shit on a CRUSADE in which we are afraid to implement the draft – hum.

- numerous church services honoring the victims were planned both on the post and in neighboring Killeen.

We hope and pray that the Christian ministers do several things to deflat this situation

(1) bring in Muslim clergy who are not extremists to balance or at least give the illustion that there is no real anti-Muslim sentiment in the communities around any military base. Good luck because you can’t set PC aside and do that.

(2) Christian clergy ask their congregations to pray for those killed, but also for those within the military who question what they are doing to make the God given right decision and murder is not the answer.

A government official speaking on condition of anonymity said an initial review of Hasan’s computer use has found no evidence of links to terror groups, or anyone who might have helped plan or push him toward the shooting attack. The review of Hasan’s computer is continuing and more evidence could emerge, the source said.

Put another way, if nothing else is found on his computer nor nothing substantial connecting him to blog posts he allegedly might have made, Dr. Hasan is simply Dr. Timothy McVeigh Hasan. Thus, where do we go from here in screening out other potential Timothy McVeighs in the Armed Forces regardless of their religion. Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist in his own right, the only difference between him and Major Hasan is that McVeigh was not on active duty when he blew up the federal building in Oklahoma city.

– A picture has emerged of a man who was forcefully opposed to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, was trying to elude his pending deployment to Afghanistan and had struggled professionally in his work as an Army psychiatrist.

So, why was he not asked to leave the Army?

Question needed immediate follow up given the pressure being placed on President Barack Obama to send more cannon fodder to Afghanistan:

How many other men and women in our Armed Forces today regardless of religion, political views, PC, service, and so on question or even oppose the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and to what degree? 

Meaning there are troops who are smart enough to question their purpose in life and goals in Iraq or Afghanistan but also strongly desire a military career (hell I’ve been in their shoes ala Vietnam so I know).

They will most likely lay low, be PC, play the games as I do when I go into a VA or military medical facility even today, allow their views to be shut down by the right-wing buss words "don’t talk politics."

"I told him, `There’s something wrong with you,’" Osman Danquah, co-founder of the Islamic Community of Greater Killeen.

"I didn’t get the feeling he was talking for himself, but something just didn’t seem right."

Danquah assumed the military’s chain of command knew about Hasan’s doubts, which had been known for more than a year to classmates at the Maryland graduate military medical program. His fellow students complained to the faculty about Hasan’s "anti-American propaganda," but said a fear of appearing discriminatory against a Muslim student kept officers from filing a formal complaint.

Bullshit, failure to file a formal complaint against someone (anyone) who is not fit for duty period is guilt by association. The same people have no reluctance about appearing discriminatory against any Muslim troops now that one of them has gone on a shooting spree, so why wait?

- OK, I’ve about had it. AP uses the example of one nationalistic doctor to make a case for most or all physcians at the graduate military medical program complaining to the faculty about Dr. Hasan’s "anti-American" propaganda.

I’m an investigative reporter from Missouri, SHOW ME, exactly how many classmates felt this way about Dr. Hasan?

How come their concerns were not documented? And I don’t buy they fearing appearing to discriminate against one Muslim. All they needed do is find but one non-Christian physcian to join in their complaints, but damn we are no shit on a CHRISTIAN CRUSADE AGAINST ISLAM.

So, let’s get on with it.

It is AP’s journalistic responsibility to prove the contention by providing names of other doctors who did not like Dr. Hasan’s politics or was it his religion they had a problem with? Then hell out with it.

simply stated he was a sic raghead with intentions of killing or maiming americans terrorist attack

the news peopl did not want to jump to conclusion think we have given the muslims to much in this country
we always quick to let them slip away

say nuke em all

We are a smart Nation, we can live without their oil–that would hurt them more than bombs and bullets.

Does anyone realize how much money those sand scums get from our Nation because we buy their oil? Why do you think gas prices are so high? Who do you think runs OPEC?

***Let the boys at Levinworth get a hold of that scum bag muslim who killed those at Ft. Hood; they will fix his ass…..boo hoo, I was harassed because I’m a muslim. Shut the F@!# up you sorry peice of shit!

And anyone who believes the media is just a damn fool! They can’t even get the weather right…