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GORDON DUFF: LIVING AND DYING: ISLAM, JUDAISM AND CHRISTIANITY
SCAPEGOATING ISLAM BECAUSE WE ARE TOTALLY SCREWED UP AIN’T GONNA WORK
By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor
Today, in Tampa, Fla, a Navy reservist tried to murder a Greek Orthodox priest from Crete as a “terrorist.” The reservist claimed the non-Arabic speaking Greek had yelled “Allah Akbar.” (God is Great) When arrested, Naval Reservist Jason D. Bruce told police the priest had tried to rob him. Thus, America’s honor is defended again. Two idiotic wars, two phony invasions and lots of hate crimes, the number, we will never know. We do know 99% of what we hear is lies. Vietnam was a lie. Iraq was a lie and Americans are dying in Afghanistan over more lies. Perhaps we could spread the hate out a bit. We seem to have so much of it.
Now when I hear about 9/11, no matter what I saw, the insane coincidences, the suppressed intelligence and the childish lies told the Commission by Rumsfeld and Cheney make me feel like we have all been “had.” The Iraq lies, thousands of them, were not enough. Now we have the fiasco of a war in Afghanistan where everything is destroyed, everything except poppy plants. They must be invisible, bullet proof, something. One pattern emerges, lies, money, lies, killing and more lies. I am sick of it. Scapegoating Greek priests or Islamic Americans isn’t justified, even after incidents like Ft. Hood shootings.
The stink over Ft. Hood is starting to spread. Every bit of it dishonors the families of the dead. We have too many people, too many armchair counter terrorists, too many “boogeyman” fundraisers and too many hate mongers. They are all in motion now. Dead soldiers are, as usual, a business, a racket. Nothing new in this.
The terrorist, Hasan, is going to have to get the “Jack Ruby” treatment. I got an anonymous email from the Homeland Security group at George Washington University last night claiming Hasan walked in off the street. I ran the names of the people he was with, off the same list his name came from. It was a “who’s who” of security and counter terrorism experts. Hasan got too close to the power during his 6 years at Walter Reed. He made friends in the “right” places and now they are running for cover like rats.
I don’t think any American had a part in this. This Hasan guy was totally nuts. Can I please have an end to the lying? Please stop the phony fundraising for right wing political baloney. Please stop damning over a billion Muslims because of this one criminal. I don’t care if there are a hundred more like him, do the count. Islamic Americans have not been much of a threat, not compared to many other groups. They have a nasty habit of working for a living, obeying laws and leaving other people alone. This is the truth. Learn to deal with it and move on with life.
If you lie to me enough times, I will stop thinking you are a nice person. 9/11 is so full of holes, that failing to call for a new investigation but blaming Islam is an insult, an insult to me, an insult to endless millions of Muslims to believe 9/11 was an abomination.
I can no longer tell which group, the former Bush administration or the conspiracy people are telling the truth. I have proof that the Bush group lied about Iraq and hundreds of other things. Thus, they can’t be believed. Anyone who chooses to believe a liar is a fool. End of story.
Back when Saddam invaded Kuwait, we were told that babys were taken out of their incubators and killed. Then we found the story, reported by every news organization, came from Israeli sources. It was a total lie. After 9/11, we saw films of Palestinians dancing in the streets celebrating. Then we found the films were 10 years old. Israeli’s gave us them also.
When the UN called our invasion of Iraq a war crime, we used 9/11 as an excuse, that and information we have found was, not only lies, but lies paid for by taxpayer money. We bought lies to start a war whose only real purpose was to steal oil, bilk the government with no bid contracts to Bush insiders, hundreds of billions were stolen and kill of thousands of Americans in the process.
When we found we had started a permanent war, we set up a cheap subterfuge called “the surge” and put half of Iraq on welfare, paying criminals billions of dollars to leave us alone. The end result? We seem to have built a massive Mafia inside Iraq that any real government will have to fight for decades. This is what has really happened. Check on it. The truth is out there.
Can anyone begin to tell me what Afghanistan is about? Please, anyone? I study this stuff and it makes my head spin. I have so many groups, foreign fighters, Mujahideen, a dozen different Taliban groups in two countries and more warlords than you can count. We send people out into the middle of nowhere, and folks show up and try to kill them. I love our military geniuses.
Do we know why? Sure we do. You send anyone, girl scouts, mimes, washing machine repairmen into Afghanistan, and someone will show up to kill them. Buy a history book. Read it.
Do we call Afghanistan a war? It is more like Detroit.
Are we going to win the war? Win what? Oh, we are going to make everyone loveS President Karzai and join his government and build a nation, a democracy we can be proud of. Farming on the moon would be easier and much more sensible. It would also be cheaper and less dangerous.
So, what is all this stuff about Islam? I don’t claim to be an expert. I studied this stuff in college. I have lived in Islamic countries. I have many friends there. Islam is not a country. It isn’t really one religion, there are different kinds. We are talking about nearly half the planet here.
Are there things in Islam that read “unpleasantly?” Yes. The Koran has alot of Old Testament in it. Get out a Christian Bible. Start with Genesis. A couple of things will start to come to mind. Both religions involve the same folks, Abraham in particular. Both religions involve alot of war and killing. You can pick out language that will justify anything.
If you want to see how language can be twisted, read the Patriot Acts and then scan the Constitution. If you don’t have your eyes roll back into your head after that, you are a pure dullard.
Islam can be used to justify many things. The Taliban and some in Iran have some odd ideas. The Wahabists in Saudi Arabia make my head spin also. However, the church by my mother’s house in Kentucky had snake handlers and people rolling around the floor. Before you want to accuse the Taliban of crazy, listen to John Hagee, “preacher in charge” during the Bush administration. This guy is “Taliban on sterioids.”
What is real and not real? News on TV is not real, not anymore. If you see a picture of something, it could be a dozen years old, it could be anything. If someone tells you something, you have to ask yourself why? Who is paying him? Should things be that way? Hell, no!
If we send our kids to war, we now have to ask, who makes money from it. We all do that already, don’t try to kid me. Some of us don’t admit it, but we all do it. First thing you ask:
- What are we there to steal? Do they have oil? Drugs?
- Did the Israeli’s push us into it?
- Where is this place, I never heard of it? Does someone have a map?
- Who is the enemy? Is there an enemy? If we win, do we get a prize?
- Do we have to blow the whole place up first, before we give them billions to rebuild it or can we just save the time and drop money on them instead?
- What do you call 5000 lobbyists on the bottom of the ocean? (A good start?)
Can we dig back into our own history:
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. –
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are suffer-able, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
But when a long train of abuses and usurpation s, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”
Does it say, anywhere, that it is our job to invade other countries and do all this for them? Does anyone note a failure or two in keeping to some of these ideas back here? Did the Founding Fathers suspect that huge corporations were going to buy and sell our own government and that a huge standing army, more powerful than the forces of the entire planet was going to, under the guise of “spreading freedom,” run rampant around the planet with mercenaries and oil companies?
Does anyone pick up an undercurrent of “mind our own business” in these words from the Declaration of Independence? Has anyone found the part saying we will send in armies and put drug dealers, criminals and thieves in charge of countries, steal their oil, blow things up and fight for decades, because we don’t like their religion?
The folks who wrote the Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson in particular, knew Islam well and was not a person very inclined to be a Christian extremist. It takes a bit of work to show Jefferson as a Christian at all. These were men of the Age of Enlightenment, a time when religion and its abuses had proven itself unable to exist in a democracy. If you want to check, you will find that the official policy of the Catholic Church, well into the 19th century declared, not only living in a democracy but the act of voting as a sin.
Perhaps the next time anyone, be it in Jordan, Egypt, Iraq or Alabama, feels a need to chase someone down the street because of their religion, it might be time to pause a moment. The 3 religions of the Book share one thing in common, a single deity. It is the same deity. There are different words, different practices and, oddly, many of the same prophets.
Even if it was written 3000 years ago or 1500 years ago, the intent was not to destroy the lives of children, destroy families and spread hate. Anyone who thinks they can fix this with a gun or bomb or advocate hate, is an enemy of mankind. You are either with us or against, us, Bush was right about that. He just had the “us” part wrong.
Veterans Today Senior Editor Gordon Duff is a Marine combat veteran and regular contributor on political and social issues.
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This is excellent. It has been difficult to watch true patriotism that founded our country be perverted into an alien and mutated concept that has been freely and widely accepted on a mass scale and ultimately turned against us – Americans and all America stands and stood for. (And I agree: Religion doesn’t kill people. People do.)
I think the Patriot Acts redacted the Declaration of Independence.
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Good shit. "Do we call Afghanistan a war? It is more like Detroit." Ha!
I will tell one thing, as a guy who wrote a lot nice stuff about and did a lot of work for candidate Obama last year. We won’t know for a couple of weeks, but if President Obama escalates in Afghanistan without some solid draw-down strategy, then fuck him we are done, I’ll vote for Nader or a Green candidate.
There is 24/7, hyper bullshit today, but Obama does have the people behind him. Hell, the Democratic Party is overwhelmingly for withdrawal. As for bigotry, this piece of shit Jason D. Bruce [I read the guy calls himself a Marine], everyone is against this guy.
Obama does not need to lie, not for politics, not for security. He does need to tell the truth if nothing else than for the 1,000s of kids coming home scarred and let’s be honest fucked-up for life.
So right after Thanksgiving when Obama makes the annoucement on Afghanistan, this is it, man. Obama is either with us or against us when it comes to bullshit war. I want a plan to bring everyone home, and they – the tribal warlords, the Taliban, the whole bunch of them – can have Detroit, it’s their country.
This was spot on and a very good reading of the pulse of the nation. We do not want this war. We cannot see any purpose to it that correlates to freedom or democracy or anything that this Republic should be exporting.
Good job!
I have to remember of attack Israel or Iran more.
I keep getting confused about who the enemies are.
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“The terrorist, Hasan, is going to have to get the “Jack Ruby” treatment. ”
If he doesn’t get Oswalted first.
I ate lunch at a local Muslim restaurant yesterday. The folks are really sweet. I was the only white-faced, blue-eyed person in the place. I sat right by the window, in view of a bunch of sourpusses to make my point.
The owners said, “Thank you, thank you for coming again.”
I responded, “I came because of Fort Hood. There are crazies everywhere. You folks are not crazy. You are my friends and you are good Americans. Thank YOU for coming to our Country legally and making it your home. We need good, hardworking folks.”
Tom Dillman – Houston, Texas
I am known two places:
1. our local islamic store…where they greet us and always have time
2. our local mexican restaurant…mexican only…(burns your insides to death)…I have my own table.
Our wonderful whiteguy friends….we are meat to them.
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You ask a lot of pertinent questions, sounds like the Socratic Method, and you smacked the whole thing out of the park. Good job.
These wars need to stop. You fought in one, so did I. We both know something.
Don’t stop writing and fighting against them.
Thanks
Bob Higgins
the good part is the typos and pidgin english
not bad for…maybe 7 minutes
if only i had an editor.
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Six months ago I couldn’t even spell editor, now I are, er, uh, am one.
From the day “USS LIBERTY” was savagely attacked in 1967 (73 US naval personal slaughtered and over 130 injured, including the Captain), the writing was on the wall for everyone to see: “Israel rules America”.
What came after that is simply an escalation and consolidation of the takeover of US finance, world monetary system, both the Democratic and the Republican party and US FOREIGN POLICY, to suite the goals of the most successful Mafia of all times.
Without use of force within the USA, it managed by deceit, false flag operations and positioning its foot soldiers in key government positions to turn the American taxpayers into slaves, pushing the US government (Congress and Senate) to send young American patriotic men and women into unnecessary wars, based on blatant lies.
How? By monopolizing the Media and spreading lies, fabricating myths, manipulating the public opinion, owning the Federal Reserve, Wailing Wall Street, corrupting many politicians and deciding through AIPAC and the ADL whom should be promoted or demoted and removed.
That is the way America got colonized and unless the American people gets conscious about what is going on and how the deception has been engineered and is done, no change: The USA have been turned into a milk cow and a source of recruiting innocent young men and women to fight, die or be crippled for the benefit of the KOSHER MAFIA DONS. They are the true masters of the country. There is a need for a nationwide debate about “who really benefit from the marriage and entwining of ‘destiny-interests’ between the USA and Israel”, and most of all: “Who rules nowadays America, the American People or the Kosher Mafia”.
Jeff writes on this and has done considerable research. There is more than minor proof of the things you are indicating.
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A real eye opener here Duff. I have long felt that the US should not go galloping around the world so much. We have plenty of things in the States that need attention. The rich and powerful have all they need, so what the heck, sacrificing a few thousand American lives is nothing. I guess it has always been that way to a degree, but now we hear so much more because of the media. I only hope that more Americans will read and think about what is really going on. I still believe in the American people. We are the most caring, empathetic people on the planet.
Terry Lee and others,
Perhaps this is the time to revist the idea of isolationism? We have everything we need right here in America. We can cease with the "missionary mentality". We aren’t very good at it.
Carol
I’m with Carol. It’s like a missionary going out and helping everybody else while their own children live in a pig-pen and are neglected. Pretty lame analogy, but it’s the best I can come up with right now.
Ohh, if only we could take all those lobbyists, bank managers, wall street lunatics, closed minded right wing media idiots and rednecks that have never wore a uniform (but by God they will tell you what YOU have to do to keep on wasting money). If we could just gather them up and send THEM to a war zone…. heck I’d even pay for the gas to send them there, not at $400 a gallon though.
teach them skin diving
put them 500 feet deep
then deliver them their equipment
eventually
after a day or two.
none of them are oxygen breathers anyway….leave them near a methane vent.
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The king has been running around bare a@#ed for years. Some Americans are starting to notice. I maintain that we are living under an occupation government, That it is the same government in occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan. From our president on down, and I do not mean just the present one, Those in this occupation government only have use for constitution after they have taken a dump and are wiping their behinds. When they take an oath to the constitution it means nothing to them and most probbely can not tell you what the document has to say. Being a bit of a history nut, I used to shake my head in amazement at how the German people allowed Hitler and his bunch to take power, run around the world killing millions of people. I do not wonder at that now. I am trying to figure out how we let it happen.
If you want to see what the lackeys are saying…look down..Mike Griffith.
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Sheesh, an Islamic Jihadist kills 13 of your fellow soldiers, and you guys fall all over yourselves to minimize the implications and nature of his actions.
Hasan sought Islamic fatwas from American-born Yemeni al-Qa’eda cleric Anwar al-Awlaki (who’d been his imam at the Dar Al-Hijrah Islamic Center in Falls Church, Virginia). Hasan told colleagues, “I’m a Muslim first and an American second.” He proselytized his psychiatric patients, many with PTSD, trying to convert them to Islam — and they complained about it. He gave a Power Point presentation while at the military’s Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences entitled ‘Why the War on Terror is a War on Islam” in which a classmate says he “justified suicide bombing” and spewed “anti-American propaganda.” He posted radical messages on Internet boards. He listed himself as a “Palestinian” even though he was born in America. And just before he gunned down 13 of your fellow soldiers, he yelled “Allahu Akbar,” as all Jihadists are asked to do before they commit their acts of murder and terror.
But all Gordon Duff can do is post more of his nutjob nonsense, apologize for Islam, and attack Christianity. What a disgrace. And shame on those of you who parrot the garbage uttered by this Al Qaeda stooge.
OK…you are Mike Griffith. You are a minor GOP functionary that trolls the internet. You are continually wrong about everything.
Is it worth reading your crap and turning it around to get the truth? You aren’t even well enough uninformed to deal with.
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