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	<title>Comments on: RETIRED VA OFFICIAL:  LOS ANGELES VETERANS LAND &quot;STOLEN&quot;</title>
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		<title>By: Fran Lawrence</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/11/26/retired-va-official-los-angeles-veterans-land-quot-stolen-quot/comment-page-1/#comment-34451</link>
		<dc:creator>Fran Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 20:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why The VA Frustrates Veterans
60 Minutes: 
Two Wars Are Slowing The Large Bureaucracy, Delaying Benefits

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/01/60minutes/main6045148.shtml?tag=currentVideoInfo;segmentUtilities

&quot;Last year, $30 billion dollars - one third of the VA&#039;s total budget - was paid in disability compensation to nearly three million veterans.&quot;

In regards to the statement that I made: &quot;THE V.A. SPENDS MORE TO KEEP VETERANS FROM GETTING DESERVED BENEFITS THAN THEY DO IN ACTUAL BENEFITS TO VETERANS.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why The VA Frustrates Veterans<br />
60 Minutes:<br />
Two Wars Are Slowing The Large Bureaucracy, Delaying Benefits</p>
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<p>&#8220;Last year, $30 billion dollars &#8211; one third of the VA&#8217;s total budget &#8211; was paid in disability compensation to nearly three million veterans.&#8221;</p>
<p>In regards to the statement that I made: &#8220;THE V.A. SPENDS MORE TO KEEP VETERANS FROM GETTING DESERVED BENEFITS THAN THEY DO IN ACTUAL BENEFITS TO VETERANS.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ENC(SW/AW)QUITORIANOUSNAVY</title>
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		<dc:creator>ENC(SW/AW)QUITORIANOUSNAVY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PROMISE OF THE PRESIDENT REGARDING CHAPTER 61 MEDICAL RETIREES. ANY IDEA HERE SHIPMATES.</description>
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		<title>By: Fran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, that would make me 39 years old many times over.  thanks, 2010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that would make me 39 years old many times over.  thanks, 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: Maximillium</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maximillium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 13:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By Fran Lawrence on 2009-12-03 23:15:30
SAVE THE DATE - JULY 4th, 2003 - LOS ANGELES VETERAN&#039;S PARK

Two Thousand Three?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By Fran Lawrence on 2009-12-03 23:15:30<br />
SAVE THE DATE &#8211; JULY 4th, 2003 &#8211; LOS ANGELES VETERAN&#8217;S PARK</p>
<p>Two Thousand Three?</p>
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		<title>By: Annie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 03:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>US MILITARY TRIBUTE - FAR AWAY - NICKLEBACK

http://media.causes.com/622166?p_id=96125462</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>US MILITARY TRIBUTE &#8211; FAR AWAY &#8211; NICKLEBACK</p>
<p><a href="http://media.causes.com/622166?p_id=96125462" rel="nofollow">http://media.causes.com/622166?p_id=96125462</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fran Lawrence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fran Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 23:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SAVE THE DATE - JULY 4th, 2003 
 - LOS ANGELES VETERAN&#039;S PARK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SAVE THE DATE &#8211; JULY 4th, 2003<br />
 &#8211; LOS ANGELES VETERAN&#8217;S PARK</p>
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		<title>By: Fran Lawrence</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/11/26/retired-va-official-los-angeles-veterans-land-quot-stolen-quot/comment-page-1/#comment-32421</link>
		<dc:creator>Fran Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 23:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as the statement: &quot;I for one look forward to the day that I can COME BACK to CALIFORNIA and stand with the other veterans on the street corner down there WITH MY BIG CRAPPY CAMPER! :-&quot;  

I stand by that.  Until then, Robert Rosebrock and all the other veterans that are there standing for what is right... STAND FOR ME AS WELL.  

I&#039;m hoping to be there July 4th.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as the statement: &#8220;I for one look forward to the day that I can COME BACK to CALIFORNIA and stand with the other veterans on the street corner down there WITH MY BIG CRAPPY CAMPER! :-&#8221;  </p>
<p>I stand by that.  Until then, Robert Rosebrock and all the other veterans that are there standing for what is right&#8230; STAND FOR ME AS WELL.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping to be there July 4th.</p>
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		<title>By: Fran Lawrence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fran Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 22:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In regards to the statement that I made: 

&quot;THE V.A. SPENDS MORE TO KEEP VETERANS FROM GETTING DESERVED BENEFITS THAN THEY DO IN ACTUAL BENEFITS TO VETERANS.&quot;

I really don&#039;t know if this is true.  Since I like to keep my world based in reality by using facts... I need to recant this statement.  

It would be interesting however if there was an honest study, that didn&#039;t use taxpayers and V.A. money, to see what this ratio really is.

-Fran</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regards to the statement that I made: </p>
<p>&#8220;THE V.A. SPENDS MORE TO KEEP VETERANS FROM GETTING DESERVED BENEFITS THAN THEY DO IN ACTUAL BENEFITS TO VETERANS.&#8221;</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t know if this is true.  Since I like to keep my world based in reality by using facts&#8230; I need to recant this statement.  </p>
<p>It would be interesting however if there was an honest study, that didn&#8217;t use taxpayers and V.A. money, to see what this ratio really is.</p>
<p>-Fran</p>
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		<title>By: Fran Lawrence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fran Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 12:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AMERICAN VETERANS, 

CALL TO ARMS TO RESPOND AGAINST THE ASSAULT AGAINST US!

PLEASE COME TO SUNNY CALIFORNIA AND MEET IN FRONT OF THE LOS ANGELES VETERANS PARK!  BRING YOUR R.V.s and CAMPERS!  THE MORE THE BETTER!  BRING YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY AND BE PREPARED TO STAY AS LONG AS POSSIBLE.  THIS IS A CAUSE WORTH FIGHTING FOR.  SPEAK UP FOR YOURSELF AND CHILDREN.  

SPEAK UP FOR THOSE WHO HAVE STOOD UP FOR YOU!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AMERICAN VETERANS, </p>
<p>CALL TO ARMS TO RESPOND AGAINST THE ASSAULT AGAINST US!</p>
<p>PLEASE COME TO SUNNY CALIFORNIA AND MEET IN FRONT OF THE LOS ANGELES VETERANS PARK!  BRING YOUR R.V.s and CAMPERS!  THE MORE THE BETTER!  BRING YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY AND BE PREPARED TO STAY AS LONG AS POSSIBLE.  THIS IS A CAUSE WORTH FIGHTING FOR.  SPEAK UP FOR YOURSELF AND CHILDREN.  </p>
<p>SPEAK UP FOR THOSE WHO HAVE STOOD UP FOR YOU!</p>
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		<title>By: Fran Lawrence</title>
		<link>http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/11/26/retired-va-official-los-angeles-veterans-land-quot-stolen-quot/comment-page-1/#comment-32393</link>
		<dc:creator>Fran Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 12:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Publius, 

What gift are you talking about that veterans are ingrates about and have lost the support of &#039;the families&#039; &#039;who bestowed the gift? 

Oh my goodness!  Are you kidding?  Disabled American combat veterans can&#039;t even sleep on the sidewalk outside &#039;this wonderful gift&#039;.  Damn, how ungrateful can a bunch of veterans be?  

And yeah, these people here represent me and my husband, both American veterans... and I&#039;m sure a whole bunch of other veterans agree and will agree... and that&#039;s what&#039;s concerning you, huh?  It should. 

I, for one, am grateful that this land was bestowed to American Veterans by two people a long time ago.  Some day, veterans may actually get to have and use their land to their benefit to help combat veterans heal from war.  

And this stuff about, &quot;the V.A. serves millions&quot;?

I can personally tell you as the wife of a disabled American combat veteran... there is a lot you don&#039;t know about what our wounded warriors have to go through with their injuries and still not get the help that they and their families need from the V.A. to heal.  

THE V.A. SPENDS MORE TO KEEP VETERANS FROM GETTING DESERVED BENEFITS THAN THEY DO IN ACTUAL BENEFITS TO VETERANS. 

But then, that&#039;s not your problem... is it?  

And you really don&#039;t care, do you? 

We&#039;re just a bunch of angry &#039;maggots&#039; on the street corner and that&#039;s all.  

I for one look forward to the day that I can COME BACK to CALIFORNIA and stand with the other veterans on the street corner down there WITH MY BIG CRAPPY CAMPER! :-) 

Look out California!  Here I come!  

By the way, there are 27,000,000 veterans... 

I wonder how many have crappy campers too and would LOVE to come to California this summer to enjoy your company?

Signed, Fran and Jim Lawrence
-American veterans with real names that you consider as &#039;maggots&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Publius, </p>
<p>What gift are you talking about that veterans are ingrates about and have lost the support of &#8216;the families&#8217; &#8216;who bestowed the gift? </p>
<p>Oh my goodness!  Are you kidding?  Disabled American combat veterans can&#8217;t even sleep on the sidewalk outside &#8216;this wonderful gift&#8217;.  Damn, how ungrateful can a bunch of veterans be?  </p>
<p>And yeah, these people here represent me and my husband, both American veterans&#8230; and I&#8217;m sure a whole bunch of other veterans agree and will agree&#8230; and that&#8217;s what&#8217;s concerning you, huh?  It should. </p>
<p>I, for one, am grateful that this land was bestowed to American Veterans by two people a long time ago.  Some day, veterans may actually get to have and use their land to their benefit to help combat veterans heal from war.  </p>
<p>And this stuff about, &#8220;the V.A. serves millions&#8221;?</p>
<p>I can personally tell you as the wife of a disabled American combat veteran&#8230; there is a lot you don&#8217;t know about what our wounded warriors have to go through with their injuries and still not get the help that they and their families need from the V.A. to heal.  </p>
<p>THE V.A. SPENDS MORE TO KEEP VETERANS FROM GETTING DESERVED BENEFITS THAN THEY DO IN ACTUAL BENEFITS TO VETERANS. </p>
<p>But then, that&#8217;s not your problem&#8230; is it?  </p>
<p>And you really don&#8217;t care, do you? </p>
<p>We&#8217;re just a bunch of angry &#8216;maggots&#8217; on the street corner and that&#8217;s all.  </p>
<p>I for one look forward to the day that I can COME BACK to CALIFORNIA and stand with the other veterans on the street corner down there WITH MY BIG CRAPPY CAMPER! <img src='http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Look out California!  Here I come!  </p>
<p>By the way, there are 27,000,000 veterans&#8230; </p>
<p>I wonder how many have crappy campers too and would LOVE to come to California this summer to enjoy your company?</p>
<p>Signed, Fran and Jim Lawrence<br />
-American veterans with real names that you consider as &#8216;maggots&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Fran Lawrence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fran Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Publius,  

You have made it very clear how you feel about our country&#039;s veterans that you are insulting here, and when you do... you are insulting ALL OF US... when you call us &#039;maggot&#039; and tell us...we&#039;re &#039;another angry vet on the corner, not much else.&#039; 

I&#039;m not feeling the love here for those that served with honor.

Thank you for showing what &#039;the family&#039; really thinks of our country&#039;s courageous and brave veterans.  

I am a veteran married to a disabled combat veteran.  Judging from your writings, &#039;the family&#039; thinks we are only &#039;maggots&#039; that should be standing on the corner holding cardboard signs and that&#039;s where we belong.... 

Come on admit it.  Say it.  Tell us what &#039;the family&#039; really thinks about America&#039;s son&#039;s and daughters, mothers and fathers and sisters and brothers that come back from war on America&#039;s... our behalf.  

Tell us.  Tell the truth.  Your attitude is already showing everyone.  

Fran Lawrence
An American Veteran with a real name</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Publius,  </p>
<p>You have made it very clear how you feel about our country&#8217;s veterans that you are insulting here, and when you do&#8230; you are insulting ALL OF US&#8230; when you call us &#8216;maggot&#8217; and tell us&#8230;we&#8217;re &#8216;another angry vet on the corner, not much else.&#8217; </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not feeling the love here for those that served with honor.</p>
<p>Thank you for showing what &#8216;the family&#8217; really thinks of our country&#8217;s courageous and brave veterans.  </p>
<p>I am a veteran married to a disabled combat veteran.  Judging from your writings, &#8216;the family&#8217; thinks we are only &#8216;maggots&#8217; that should be standing on the corner holding cardboard signs and that&#8217;s where we belong&#8230;. </p>
<p>Come on admit it.  Say it.  Tell us what &#8216;the family&#8217; really thinks about America&#8217;s son&#8217;s and daughters, mothers and fathers and sisters and brothers that come back from war on America&#8217;s&#8230; our behalf.  </p>
<p>Tell us.  Tell the truth.  Your attitude is already showing everyone.  </p>
<p>Fran Lawrence<br />
An American Veteran with a real name</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Rosebrock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Rosebrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Pubilas: Is this the same Carolina Winston Barrie that wrote:  
-- Dear Mr. President, (GW Bush) My family’s intention was clear. The land was given for the benefit of the veterans themselves, who have made enormous sacrifices so that all of us can live freely in this wonderful country. This property was selected because it was warm and balmy and close to the ocean breezes. It was never intended that it would be traded for something else. To do so would be a betrayal of the purpose of my family’s donation. 
Mrs. Carolina Winston Barrie -- Is this the same &quot;family&quot; member that sits on the board of the wealthy Brentwood homeowner group that wants to turn Veterans land into &quot;central park west&quot;? A Trojan Horse is a Trojan Horse, and a robber baron is a robber baron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Pubilas: Is this the same Carolina Winston Barrie that wrote:<br />
&#8211; Dear Mr. President, (GW Bush) My family’s intention was clear. The land was given for the benefit of the veterans themselves, who have made enormous sacrifices so that all of us can live freely in this wonderful country. This property was selected because it was warm and balmy and close to the ocean breezes. It was never intended that it would be traded for something else. To do so would be a betrayal of the purpose of my family’s donation.<br />
Mrs. Carolina Winston Barrie &#8212; Is this the same &#8220;family&#8221; member that sits on the board of the wealthy Brentwood homeowner group that wants to turn Veterans land into &#8220;central park west&#8221;? A Trojan Horse is a Trojan Horse, and a robber baron is a robber baron.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Rosebrock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Rosebrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Pablum: 

We have the support of Arcadia de Baker! She gave Veterans this land and we are defending it in her behalf and in her honor for our fellow Veterans, just as she intended. In fact, for the past two years we&#039;ve held the 120th and 121st Anniversary Celebration in hers and Senator Jones&#039; honor. Where in the hell were you or any of the so-called &quot;family&quot; members.  

The so-called &quot;family&quot; even tried to sue in court to take this land away from Veterans and lost big time.

We have over 200,000 Veterans in support of our cause just in California.  We also have the California Democratic Party supporting our opposition to the public park and other misuse and abuse of Veterans sacred land.  Why is the so-called &quot;family&quot; supporting a public park, public golf course, etc., on this sacred land instead of a Veterans Home? 

If you can&#039;t confiscate this land through the courts for personal gain then try and steal it in the name of &quot;honoring our veterans&quot; with a bogus veterans park, and through a &quot;non-profit&quot; organization.  You have no shame, no honor ... nothing but a lost cause founded upon greed and corruption. 

Arcadia de Baker and Senator Jones wouldn&#039;t have anything to do with you and / or the so-called family. These were honorable people who loved America&#039;s Veterans! Stop dragging their good name into your pig-pen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Pablum: </p>
<p>We have the support of Arcadia de Baker! She gave Veterans this land and we are defending it in her behalf and in her honor for our fellow Veterans, just as she intended. In fact, for the past two years we&#8217;ve held the 120th and 121st Anniversary Celebration in hers and Senator Jones&#8217; honor. Where in the hell were you or any of the so-called &#8220;family&#8221; members.  </p>
<p>The so-called &#8220;family&#8221; even tried to sue in court to take this land away from Veterans and lost big time.</p>
<p>We have over 200,000 Veterans in support of our cause just in California.  We also have the California Democratic Party supporting our opposition to the public park and other misuse and abuse of Veterans sacred land.  Why is the so-called &#8220;family&#8221; supporting a public park, public golf course, etc., on this sacred land instead of a Veterans Home? </p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t confiscate this land through the courts for personal gain then try and steal it in the name of &#8220;honoring our veterans&#8221; with a bogus veterans park, and through a &#8220;non-profit&#8221; organization.  You have no shame, no honor &#8230; nothing but a lost cause founded upon greed and corruption. </p>
<p>Arcadia de Baker and Senator Jones wouldn&#8217;t have anything to do with you and / or the so-called family. These were honorable people who loved America&#8217;s Veterans! Stop dragging their good name into your pig-pen.</p>
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		<title>By: Francisco Juarez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francisco Juarez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Publius writes............you at VT keep regurgitating your personal point of view but accept no other including the family representative?

The so-called family representatives should be leading the rallies at the corner of Wilshire and San Vicente every Sunday, we&#039;re just waiting for them to admit that the leases, normally granted to &quot;$INFLUENTIAL$&quot; types, violate the terms, conditions, spirit and intent of their Ancestor, Arcadia.

I really dont think you remote editors have a clue about what is actually going on this matter and other stories you post. This lady whom you hold in contempt, speaks for 129 surviving family members who deeded the land in the first place, if their point of view is uncomfortable for you then perhaps you might simply take an objective point of view instead of your ad hominem attacks.

Not all of us are &quot;remote editors&quot; but we do chime in when we feel it necessary.  In this case, I feel the need to not only defend my fellow defenders of the &quot;Sacred Trust&quot; but to point out that this small section (above) is the only humane part of your print.  You offer perspective without displaying your own contempt, and you suggest an &quot;objective point of view&quot;.  Your words read as if you were one of the 129 surviving family members, descendents of the cousins of Arcadia (she had no children of her own).  Thank you.
You and your family need to be objective.  Fact; the land was a gift for returning Veterans to have a place to be healed.  Fact; all of that started to go away after the committee that ran it for years handed it over to the VA.  Fact; the &quot;gift&quot; has been whittled away with deals, not transparent to the public, let alone the Veteran community, that insult the intentions of Aunt Arcadia and Senator Jones.  Fact; Salvation Army gets about 2 acres (you know about this, the &quot;family&quot; fought to get it back for themselves, not Veterans), develop it as multi-dwelling rentals, charge market rates and fill it with mostly non-Veterans and only have to pay $1 a year!  And the list goes on and on until a rent-free 16 acre public park is planned.  This is the basis of our objectivity, can you offer something better?

And besides you&#039;re the ones who keep reposting the story to begin with? Rosebrock hangs the flag up side down, some of us resent that, he exempts himself from the rules the rest of us are obliged to conduct ourselves by not hanging banners and signs on the VA fences? He is a fraud and so are you....hey indeed ass. Show respect get respect, show none get none, Hey?

And if they jump off the bridge, you jump off the bridge too?  Sad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Publius writes&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;you at VT keep regurgitating your personal point of view but accept no other including the family representative?</p>
<p>The so-called family representatives should be leading the rallies at the corner of Wilshire and San Vicente every Sunday, we&#8217;re just waiting for them to admit that the leases, normally granted to &#8220;$INFLUENTIAL$&#8221; types, violate the terms, conditions, spirit and intent of their Ancestor, Arcadia.</p>
<p>I really dont think you remote editors have a clue about what is actually going on this matter and other stories you post. This lady whom you hold in contempt, speaks for 129 surviving family members who deeded the land in the first place, if their point of view is uncomfortable for you then perhaps you might simply take an objective point of view instead of your ad hominem attacks.</p>
<p>Not all of us are &#8220;remote editors&#8221; but we do chime in when we feel it necessary.  In this case, I feel the need to not only defend my fellow defenders of the &#8220;Sacred Trust&#8221; but to point out that this small section (above) is the only humane part of your print.  You offer perspective without displaying your own contempt, and you suggest an &#8220;objective point of view&#8221;.  Your words read as if you were one of the 129 surviving family members, descendents of the cousins of Arcadia (she had no children of her own).  Thank you.<br />
You and your family need to be objective.  Fact; the land was a gift for returning Veterans to have a place to be healed.  Fact; all of that started to go away after the committee that ran it for years handed it over to the VA.  Fact; the &#8220;gift&#8221; has been whittled away with deals, not transparent to the public, let alone the Veteran community, that insult the intentions of Aunt Arcadia and Senator Jones.  Fact; Salvation Army gets about 2 acres (you know about this, the &#8220;family&#8221; fought to get it back for themselves, not Veterans), develop it as multi-dwelling rentals, charge market rates and fill it with mostly non-Veterans and only have to pay $1 a year!  And the list goes on and on until a rent-free 16 acre public park is planned.  This is the basis of our objectivity, can you offer something better?</p>
<p>And besides you&#8217;re the ones who keep reposting the story to begin with? Rosebrock hangs the flag up side down, some of us resent that, he exempts himself from the rules the rest of us are obliged to conduct ourselves by not hanging banners and signs on the VA fences? He is a fraud and so are you&#8230;.hey indeed ass. Show respect get respect, show none get none, Hey?</p>
<p>And if they jump off the bridge, you jump off the bridge too?  Sad</p>
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		<title>By: duffster</title>
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		<dc:creator>duffster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading the full biography of the original Mrs. Baker who died childless in 1912 without ever learning English showed a person of great kindness, discernment and taste.

If only she had children who could speak for her, or grandchildren or even great grandchildren and not &quot;shirt tail relations.&quot;

I am more closely related to the English royal family than those claiming to be descendants are to her.....and I couldn&#039;t talk my way into a paid visit to Windsor Castle, much less pretend to discuss how land within Britain is transferred.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading the full biography of the original Mrs. Baker who died childless in 1912 without ever learning English showed a person of great kindness, discernment and taste.</p>
<p>If only she had children who could speak for her, or grandchildren or even great grandchildren and not &#8220;shirt tail relations.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am more closely related to the English royal family than those claiming to be descendants are to her&#8230;..and I couldn&#8217;t talk my way into a paid visit to Windsor Castle, much less pretend to discuss how land within Britain is transferred.</p>
<p>g</p>
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		<title>By: duffster</title>
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		<dc:creator>duffster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have lost the support of the greedy 4th generation offspring of the decent people who donated a few thousand dollars of land long ago...folks who now see it worth billions.

You have one &quot;pet&quot; General...a Hollywood playboy as a stooge who is supposedly speaking for veterans.

The American Legion says you are wrong, he is wrong.

The ACLU says you are wrong.

Show me the homeless vets and disabled vets who belong to your organization.  Thus far, I see insurance executives, movie producers, millionaires all.

In fact, exactly how many of your supporters, how many who live in your neighborhood actually are veterans?

Lets look at the Brentwood School which uses the biggest portion of the property....

What is their program for children of military serving overseas and children of disabled veterans?

What have you done for them?

A contemplative park?

Oh come now.  Sleeping ourdoors is the only form of contemplation you wish for veterans, those who have kept you safe and built the country you have managed to do so well in.

g</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have lost the support of the greedy 4th generation offspring of the decent people who donated a few thousand dollars of land long ago&#8230;folks who now see it worth billions.</p>
<p>You have one &#8220;pet&#8221; General&#8230;a Hollywood playboy as a stooge who is supposedly speaking for veterans.</p>
<p>The American Legion says you are wrong, he is wrong.</p>
<p>The ACLU says you are wrong.</p>
<p>Show me the homeless vets and disabled vets who belong to your organization.  Thus far, I see insurance executives, movie producers, millionaires all.</p>
<p>In fact, exactly how many of your supporters, how many who live in your neighborhood actually are veterans?</p>
<p>Lets look at the Brentwood School which uses the biggest portion of the property&#8230;.</p>
<p>What is their program for children of military serving overseas and children of disabled veterans?</p>
<p>What have you done for them?</p>
<p>A contemplative park?</p>
<p>Oh come now.  Sleeping ourdoors is the only form of contemplation you wish for veterans, those who have kept you safe and built the country you have managed to do so well in.</p>
<p>g</p>
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		<title>By: Publius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Publius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you guys are full of crap....a stalking horse looking for an issue? This aint it, you have lost the support of the families who bestowed the gift, perhaps you need best attend a political science class to better understand what you have done, destroyed your movement, all this hooweee how Waxman ans Yaroslovsky have failed you?
You dont represent the majority of the veterans community, can this nonsense of a &#039;national movement&#039; the only movement you are all a part of is your misrepresentation of the true facts, and your movement reeks like the brown water that runs down the drain your crap flows through.
If you hadnt lost the support of the families you might have had a better chance but you alienated them even here today, such ingrates you are.
All this nonsense every body in government is wrong and only you are right? One of you swears to it the other signs it?
Get serious, look about you the WLA-VA serves thousands, the VA serves millions, you serve no one except your ego.
Who do you people think you are to cast such insults what exactly is it you do that makes you so much the authorized Vox ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you guys are full of crap&#8230;.a stalking horse looking for an issue? This aint it, you have lost the support of the families who bestowed the gift, perhaps you need best attend a political science class to better understand what you have done, destroyed your movement, all this hooweee how Waxman ans Yaroslovsky have failed you?<br />
You dont represent the majority of the veterans community, can this nonsense of a &#8216;national movement&#8217; the only movement you are all a part of is your misrepresentation of the true facts, and your movement reeks like the brown water that runs down the drain your crap flows through.<br />
If you hadnt lost the support of the families you might have had a better chance but you alienated them even here today, such ingrates you are.<br />
All this nonsense every body in government is wrong and only you are right? One of you swears to it the other signs it?<br />
Get serious, look about you the WLA-VA serves thousands, the VA serves millions, you serve no one except your ego.<br />
Who do you people think you are to cast such insults what exactly is it you do that makes you so much the authorized Vox ?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Culmer 20 year career Marine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Culmer 20 year career Marine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This &quot;publius&quot; puke, isn’t that the name of the little swisher guy that did the major sucking-up to Caesar back in Rome? 

I was on the Veterans Advisory Commission in 1989 and spoke, in September, and in March of 1990, to the Board of Supervisory, mainly to Yeroslafsky. He promised he would &quot;Take care of the Veterans&quot;. (Both meetings are available to view) Well he did, and has been doing it ever since, along with sue young, zora chrissoloff, waxman and the rest of the dog pack of brentwood, still lead by the cheif musher, sue young. She changed the name of her pack three times, first it was the brentwood homeowner’s assoc then to the brentwood park preserve, then to the brentwood park conservancy. This was a feeble attempt at throwing people off her trail because of all the back stabbing she was doing. Dr Robert Delzell was the Chairman of the Veterans Advisory Commission at that time. He and I met and talked with the vpc&#039;s lawyers, Bill Belding and his gofer asst. Robert Bell. I asked eleven times if there was a plan in place that would show what the plans were for the sixteen acres in question. Eleven times the question evaded with the usual lawyer doublespeak. Serious considerations were given to putting up an amusement park, tennis courts, and a velodrome. All of which twisted, turned, and faded like leaves on a tree when met with opposition.

Let’s just fast-forward the tape. If this friggen dog pack was truly honest, forthright, and earnestly wanted to help Veterans this would have been a done deal in 1990, the bottom line is the same as it was for Judas, a few lousy pieces of silver, for small people that were sat on the potty cross-way as a kid and think this betrayal will take the place of therapy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This &#8220;publius&#8221; puke, isn’t that the name of the little swisher guy that did the major sucking-up to Caesar back in Rome? </p>
<p>I was on the Veterans Advisory Commission in 1989 and spoke, in September, and in March of 1990, to the Board of Supervisory, mainly to Yeroslafsky. He promised he would &#8220;Take care of the Veterans&#8221;. (Both meetings are available to view) Well he did, and has been doing it ever since, along with sue young, zora chrissoloff, waxman and the rest of the dog pack of brentwood, still lead by the cheif musher, sue young. She changed the name of her pack three times, first it was the brentwood homeowner’s assoc then to the brentwood park preserve, then to the brentwood park conservancy. This was a feeble attempt at throwing people off her trail because of all the back stabbing she was doing. Dr Robert Delzell was the Chairman of the Veterans Advisory Commission at that time. He and I met and talked with the vpc&#8217;s lawyers, Bill Belding and his gofer asst. Robert Bell. I asked eleven times if there was a plan in place that would show what the plans were for the sixteen acres in question. Eleven times the question evaded with the usual lawyer doublespeak. Serious considerations were given to putting up an amusement park, tennis courts, and a velodrome. All of which twisted, turned, and faded like leaves on a tree when met with opposition.</p>
<p>Let’s just fast-forward the tape. If this friggen dog pack was truly honest, forthright, and earnestly wanted to help Veterans this would have been a done deal in 1990, the bottom line is the same as it was for Judas, a few lousy pieces of silver, for small people that were sat on the potty cross-way as a kid and think this betrayal will take the place of therapy.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Rosebrock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Rosebrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>puberty or whatever -- You&#039;re a total coward and afraid to put up your name. I&#039;d be ashamed too if I was stealing sacred land from Veterans. Nobody speaks for Arcadia de Baker! Her words are in the Deed of 1888 and nowhere does it mention a public park, open space and all the other garbage that sue young keeps fabricating in order to keep 20,000 homeless Veterans from their rightful &quot;Home.&quot; This so-called &quot;family&quot; you allude to is aiding and abetting in the theft of Veterans property given by John P. Jones and Ms. Baker. Just as you cannot honor the Deed of 1888, you cannot honor the U.S. Flag Code. You&#039;re a fake, fraud and an embarrassment to the human race. Put up your name or shut up!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>puberty or whatever &#8212; You&#8217;re a total coward and afraid to put up your name. I&#8217;d be ashamed too if I was stealing sacred land from Veterans. Nobody speaks for Arcadia de Baker! Her words are in the Deed of 1888 and nowhere does it mention a public park, open space and all the other garbage that sue young keeps fabricating in order to keep 20,000 homeless Veterans from their rightful &#8220;Home.&#8221; This so-called &#8220;family&#8221; you allude to is aiding and abetting in the theft of Veterans property given by John P. Jones and Ms. Baker. Just as you cannot honor the Deed of 1888, you cannot honor the U.S. Flag Code. You&#8217;re a fake, fraud and an embarrassment to the human race. Put up your name or shut up!!</p>
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		<title>By: duffster</title>
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		<dc:creator>duffster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 15:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert,
Where did they get this crazy woman from anyway?

g</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,<br />
Where did they get this crazy woman from anyway?</p>
<p>g</p>
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