THE SPEECH WE DID NOT HEAR
December 1, 2009 posted by Gordon Duff · 27 Comments
HAS AMERICA FORGOTTEN PEACE?
By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor
Last night, I listened to our President tell me that it will take years to withdraw from Afghanistan. He, out of political necessity told a series of lies. He lies by omission, failing to tell people that this war, our "good war" was, when the facts are examined, a farce.
There has not been a credible word from Osama bin Laden since December, 2001, when his death was announced in the Islamic press. What other reason did we have to occupy Afghanistan and lead it into total ruin?
The President lies because he has been lied to.
He presented solutions, solutions sending troops into harms way, troops meant to build a government and country that force of arms can only destroy.
Years of propaganda and war mongering has made it impossible for any honest dialog about war. Years of lying, lying for politics, lying for profit, lying in support of treasonous foreign interests has left us with nothing to build on. No honest voice is left, just screaming liars paid by thieves claiming to represent the right or the left.
Neither really exist. If it talks, if it squawks, it is paid off by someone and is probably lying. Our government has their own business, getting elected, taking care of rich constituents and making sure war profiteers keep raking it in.
Without a voice of opposition from the people, as there is certainly no opposition in Washington, especially since the GOP is tied to the apron strings of the insurance industry and big oil and has no time for simple people, there will be no voice to scream "STOP."
Yes, support the troops. Bring them home to their families, let the villagers in Afghanistan continue whatever they have been doing for 300 years and stay out of it. We have managed to build a massive economy around playing at war. How many lobbyists does it require to hold a village in Afghanistan?
How many Predator drones does it require to find a bed for a homeless veteran?
How many mercenaries does it take to teach an amputee how to walk?
How many intelligence analysts does it take to figure out that if you keep doing the same thing over and over and it doesn’t work, but you keep doing the same thing anyway, it is a sign you are nuts?
How long is it going to take us to realize that NOBODY is on our side. We think we are the new Roman empire, the policeman of the world. America isn’t Caesar’s Rome, not even the Rome of Augustus. We are the Rome of Nero and Caligula, a society steeped in corruption, excess and debauchery. How many Americans think of Washington DC as a center of culture and stability?
Does anyone even think America has a policy or government? Are we a country or simply a group of people ruled by a government owned and operated by special interest groups who dip into our treasury at will, send our kids off to war for amusement serve the agendas of "flavor of the month" allies, often brutal dictatorships disguised as enlightened democracies.
Over 40 years ago, America began to awaken to the fact that the war in Vietnam was a senseless slaughter having nothing to do with American values or security. President Obama is the 3rd president in my lifetime elected based on his promise to end a war.
In 1952, Eisenhower promised peace in Korea. We still have troops there nearly 6 decades later and wait daily for war to break out again.
In 1968, Nixon promised a "secret plan" to end the war in Vietnam. His plan, fight for 4 more years, killing 20,000 more Americans, then abandon most of our POWs and give Vietnam to the communists.
Tonite we hear another secret plan to end a war. Will we hear the truth? Not hardly!
"8 years ago we invaded Afghanistan and a short time later, Iraq, to punish a small group of murderers that killed 3000 Americans. As time has gone on, we now know that much of what we believed about those attacks is false. Evidence now points, not only to terror groups, but to countries we thought to be friends and there is even evidence of complicity here at home.
After years of phony intelligence, propaganda campaigns and torturing false confessions out of detainees, nothing can be trusted.
Donald Rumsfeld tells it best. He went before the 9/11 Commission (see Addendum below) stating there was never any indication that terror attacks of the kind seen on 9/11 were possible nor did he receive any warning. We now know that nearly every word he and so many others told that commission were lies, unquestionable, proven and done with remorseless cynicism.
8 years, the illegal invasion of Iraq, the engineering of an economic collapse in America, the corruption of our laws, of our national honor and our moral standing make it impossible for me to continue the war in Afghanistan.
No more Americans will die because of the criminality of a few. Are the few foreign terrorists or Americans, politicians, lobbyists, industrialist, bankers and their good friends overseas in Saudi Arabia or maybe Israel.
How can we order the deaths of thousands of Americans when the real "evil doers" at home run free? We know their names, we know their crimes. How can we bring justice and democracy to others when we, ourselves, have none?
Nearly 10,000 Americans are dead, tens of thousands wounded and trillions of dollars are missing. There is much more proof that these deaths and this massive theft was caused by a domestic conspiracy than any foreign intrigue.
First, we clean our own home, then we carry democracy to others."
Will we hear this tonite?
ADDENDUM
EXERPTS FROM THE SWORN TESTIMONY OF DONALD RUMSFELD BEFORE THE 9/11 COMMISSION
Ben Veneste: Well, it is correct that the United States intelligence community had a great deal of intelligence suggesting that the terrorists, back since 1994, had plans, discussed plans, to use airplanes as weapons, loaded with fuel, loaded with bombs, loaded with explosives.
There were plans in ’97 using a UAV. In ’98, an Al Qaida- connected group talked about flying a commercial plane into the World Trade Center. In ’98, there was a plot broken up by Turkish intelligence involving the use of a plane as a weapon.
In ’99, there was a plot involving exploding a plane at an airport. Also in ’99, there was a plot regarding an explosive-laden hang-glider. In ’99 or in 2000, there was a plot regarding hijacking a 747. And in August of 2001, there was information received by our intelligence community regarding flying a plane into the Nairobi embassy, our Nairobi embassy.
And so I suggest that when you have this threat spike in the summer of 2001 that said something huge was going to happen and the FAA circulates, as you mentioned, a warning which does nothing to alert people on the ground to the potential threat of jihadist hijacking, which only, it seems to me, despite the fact that they read into the congressional record the potential for a hijacking threat in the United States, in the summer of 2001, it never gets to any actionable level.
Nobody at the airports is alerted to any particular threat. Nobody flying the planes takes action of a defensive posture.
I understand that going after Al Qaida overseas is one thing. But protecting the United States is another thing. And it seems to me that a statement that we could not conceive of such a thing happening really does not reflect the state of our intelligence community as of 2001, sir.
RUMSFELD: A couple of comments. I quite agree with you, there were a number of reports about potential hijacking. I even remember comments about UAVs. I even have seen things about private aircraft hitting something. But I do not recall ever seeing anything in the period since I came back to government about the idea of taking a commercial airliner and using it as a missile. I just don’t recall seeing it. And maybe you do, Dick?
(Editors note: Can anyone see where a charge of perjury might apply here?)
MYERS: No, I do not.
(Editors note: And here?)
BEN-VENISTE: Well, the fact is that our staff has — and the joint inquiry before us, I must say — has come up with eight or 10 examples which are well-known in the intelligence community. My goodness, there was an example of an individual who flew a small plane and landed right next to the White House.
RUMSFELD: I remember…. And a civilian aircraft was a law enforcement matter to be handled by law enforcement authorities and aviation authorities.
(Editors note: Is Secretary Rumsfeld saying that an airliner hijacked by terrorists is a problem for local police? Do they have F16s?)
GORELICK: So now I would like to talk about the aspects that were in your control. When the 1996 Olympics were being planned about what do we do when an aircraft is being hijacked and is flying into a stadium at the Olympics? What is the military’s response? What is it’s role?
And it has always been my assumption that even though, yes, you were looking out, that you have a responsibility to protect our airspace.
So my question is: In this summer of threat, what did you do to protect, let’s just say the Pentagon, from attack? Where were our aircraft when a missile is heading toward the Pentagon? Surely that is within the Pentagon’s responsibility to protect — force protection, to protect our facilities, to protect something — our headquarters, the Pentagon. Is there anything that we did at the Pentagon to prevent that harm in the spring and summer of ’01?
RUMSFELD: First let me respond as to what the responsibility of the Department of Defense has been with a hijacking. As I said, it was a law enforcement issue. And the Department of Defense has had various understandings with FAA whereby when someone squawks "hijack," they have an arrangement with the Department of Defense that the military would send an airplane up and monitor the flight, but certainly in a hijack situation, did not have authority to shoot down a plane that was being hijacked.
The purpose of a hijack is to take the plane from one place to another place where it wasn’t intended to be going, not to fly it into buildings.
(Editors note: Is this more perjury? Why had Secretary Rumsfeld ordered war games to protect against hijacked planes crashing into buildings, war games held on 9/11 by coincidence if one single statement in this answer is correct?)
GORELICK: Was it your understanding that the NORAD pilots who were circling over Washington D.C. that morning had indeed received a shoot-down order?
RUMSFELD: When I arrived in the command centre, one of the first things I heard, was that the order had been given and that the pilots — correction, not the pilots necessarily, but the command had been given the instructions that their pilots could, in fact, use their weapons to shoot down a commercial airliners filled with our people in the event that the aircraft appeared to be behaving in a threatening way and an unresponsive way.
(Editors note: If crashing planes into the World Trade Center isn’t threatening or "unresponsive," what is?)
GORELICK: Now, you make a distinction there between the command and the pilots. Was it your understanding that the pilots had received that order?
MYERS: General Eberhart,told the staff, what he told me, as I recall, was that the pilots did — at the appropriate point when the authority to engage civilian airliners was given, that the pilots knew that fairly quickly. I mean, it went down through the chain of command.
(Editors note: Did anyone understand this?)
RUMSFELD: It was on a threat conference call that it was given, and everybody heard it simultaneously. The question then would be — the reason I am hesitant is because we went through two or three iterations of the rules of engagement. And in the end, we ended up delegating that authority to, at the lowest level, I believe, to two stars.
(Editors note: I wonder how long that took? What is an "iteration" of a rule of engagement? Did we need 3 of them? Thousands were dying while Rumsfeld and Myer were "iterating" over and over.)
MYERS: Right.
(Editors note: No matter how stupid something is, you can find a 4 star general in the Pentagon to salute it.)
RUMSFELD: And the pilot would then describe the situation to that level. To the extent that level had time, they would come up to General Eberhart. To the extent Eberhart had time, he would come up to me. And to the extent I had time, I might talk to the president, which in fact, I did do on several occasions during the remainder of the day with respect to international flights heading to this country that were squawking "hijack."
(Editors note: Does an analogy involving horses, barns and doors apply here?)
GORELICK: I’m just trying to understand whether it is your understanding that the NORAD pilots themselves, who were circling over Washington, as you referred to in your statement, whether they knew that they had authority to shoot down a plane
RUMSFELD: I do not know what they thought. In fact, I haven’t talked to any of the pilots that were up there.
(Editor: Finally, something we can believe.)
This is the official sworn testimony of Defense Secretary Rumsfeld and Joint Chiefs Chairman, General Myers. With all the conspiracy theories, with all the finger pointing, why not just start with the real record itself.
Veterans Today Senior Editor Gordon Duff is a Marine combat veteran and regular contributor on political and social issues.
Right on the money, g.
The whole thing is based on lies, bribes, political coersion, racism. The New World Order elites create “perpetual wars for perpetual peace” for their own personal enrichment at the dire cost of innocent people. The US economy can’t afford any more of this crap. Military families are being abused and devastated by all the no-win wars.
We have only a handful of genuine patriots in govt., Ron Paul is an outstanding public servant. His son is running for the senate.
Jim Trafficant is bravely trying to help from his weakend position.
I wonder if we can get Trafficant back into the Senate?
He was always a favorite.
g
Most likely
http://kennysideshow.blogspot.com/2009/12/escalation-is-treason.html
Escalation is Treason
Or perhaps more accurately, a continuation of treason that moves from one administration and congress to the next.
How else can you put it?
Not one thing said over the last 8 years by our government about why we are in Afghanistan and Iraq is true. With few exceptions every elected official is a liar and murderer.
What could be more treasonous than lying us into wars with the results being an untold number of deaths? I suppose you could say that the catalyst, the false flag of 9/11, is right up at the top of the pantheon of treason.
Benedict Arnold , often called America’s most infamous traitor, was a boy scout in comparison to the Clinton/Bush/Cheney/Obama criminal syndicate.
It seems fitting that Arnold’s betrayal of West Point in the Revolutionary War is the same place that Obama will give his treasonous speech tonight on the escalation in Afghanistan.
Arnold was never caught, tried and convicted for his crimes. He escaped to England where he lived out the rest of his life. Our modern day traitors have also escaped and haven’t even had to leave. They are in plain sight.
And we just sit back, watch the traitors on television and do nothing.
Obama: “The first thing I will do as President is get our troops home. Take that to the bank.”
Congrats Obamaites; You are Now in Bed With Rick Santorum, Greta Van Susteren and Fox News. Good job…
Gone but not forgotten — the bin Laden revival tour
Another toothless Iraq inquiry. It can only confirm what most people already know: this was a war deliberately waged under a string of false pretenses
The War in Afghanistan: Right on Cue, Barry Soetoro Commits More US Forces For the Lost Cause!
A troop surge can only magnify the crime against Afghanistan
Bush and Blair Return
Demjanjuk on trial for alleged war crimes at Treblinka … I mean Sobibor … wait, It think it’s Treblinka … no, hang on a minute … maybe it’s Abu Graib … no, no, sorry … must be Long Kesh … could be the Bastille … Lubyanka?
Obama Impatient With Iran
Manning, Iraq, 9/11, Jews
Milking the Last Bloody Nickels from Enduring Lies.
Every day I look at the news, which I automatically identify as the particular lies and distortions of the moment. Then I know what it is that they want us to believe. I’ve got a pretty good idea of how we got into this mess. I’m a great deal less clear on how we are going to get out of it. {Visible}
These lies and insanity are going to make it less likely people sign up to defend their country. Is this what it is really about? Join a meat grinder for nothing! You defend your country by being in it.
Editors Choice
Peter Macdonald 465 Packers falls Rd Lee NH 03824 603-659-6217 11-2-09
The editor’s choice is like the social atmosphere of society. Condemn the war but make the people ship Christmas trees to the troops to make them feel at home. Censor the opinion letters of U.S. citizens about government wrongs to protect the establish way and avoid libel legal action. Short calendars, sniper fire, and the loneness of being scared and unable to tell anyone how can this be? The mental state of a 100% disabled U.S. Marine that has no medical care but the established record meets societies satisfaction. The Lack of Memory yet the knowledge of to kill, is an established way with experience and emotional harmony from government mistakes to create world legacy. The reaching tentacles of a mind with no base to come home to is the sound many returning U.S. Military are lost in the wind to because the social atmosphere of society short changes us.
The rambling rants of a U.S. Military Veteran with the ability to write but not remember. Societies protocol can establish from experience that some one with the ability to write cannot be mentally disabled. The editor’s choice to censor the opinion of someone so wrong meets the way society will accept to proceed. Silence the veteran because our view is daunted by our uncivilized actions that only those that participated in can justify. A broken back cannot stop a U.S. Marine by pain alone if volunteering to make the U.S. better is the result. Pain and Anguish set aside to help a legally blind person put a roof on or defy the enemy to benefit the other U.S. citizens around you. U.S. Military are citizens also. The lucky ones die before learning the social atmosphere of society that will isolate and attempt to silence any words of reality. The uncontrolled Veterans Administration that wastes tax dollars so the social atmosphere of society can smile for those they helped. The loss of so many swept under the rug as a means to keep the established protocol reaching for more to quell the social up roar. Government checks and balance to protect the citizen no longer exist in the VA as elected officials use returning veterans care as a screen to keep the voters happy. Veterans in need can be lost with paperwork or rejection because society demands you follow procedure even if it is designed to harm the veteran silently with out redress. Where does a U.S. Military Veteran go when the social atmosphere of society will look the other way of the 25% homeless veterans alone in a world that you build for us because we cannot come home from what we did for you?
Label me a danger to society and call me a terrorist because I lost my ability to be scared of the consequences of telling every one of the wrongs. You call for violence in the criminal acts put on me to silence my words but accepting harm to make it better for others in the future has to be my way.
The editor’s choice has to be right for they must establish their private business in an acceptable way of the social atmosphere of society. A useless Christmas tree to troops in combat is what the people need to hear.
Peter Macdonald Sgt USMC Semper Fi
Funny thing about human nature. If a person lies all the time and get’s caught at it finally, when they try tell the truth, no one listens anymore. And anyone associated with them can also be branded a LIAR and ignored too.
Fact of the matter is, if a government LIES to it’s people, then for oh, I’d say the next two generations, everything they say will be considered a LIE first, a manipulation/ distortion second and very unlikely the truth.
It’s one thing to lie about turning in your homework, missing a date or perhaps not cleaning up your room, but when your lies involve human lives and blood being spilled for no reason, then that is not acceptable.
When all these LIES come back on the Government IE, the Iraq, Afghanistan pack of lies, I expect that the fabric of the ‘American way of life’ will be torn. How much will be anybody’s guess but at a time when the Whole World needs the trust of it’s governments, can America afford to lie now?
Again if u don’t like it. Move to Canada. Ya bunch of retards
If we move to Canada, Mr. Patriot, should we take our Purple Hearts with us? Most of us are veterans who are very concerned about the future of this broken Nation.
What say you?
Because we own this country and its our intent to ship you to… Well I don’t know where. Someplace you can safely work out the issues that led you to believe calling yourself Patriot was anything more than wishful thinking.
Cheers!
I too am a veteran of three tours in Iraq, and was awarded the Bronze Star. And it wasn’t just for being an officer. Infact I was just a SSG doing my job. Awards are just Decoration for my Class A uniform. All I ever see on this site are raceist remarks about the president and that isreal is to blame for our problems. But we are to blame all of us. We keep electing the same crooks to the house and senate. That is the root problem. If we get lawmakers that care about the people and not their own pockets we’ll be fine.. But Mr Obama is the ligit president. Live with it already.
‘Parrot’ – People who fought in combat for our country have a right to say whatever they want against war without being told to ‘move to Canada’ or being called ‘retards’. Pretty sad when ‘Brothers In Arms’ call each other childish names and tell others to move to Canada.
If you have something intelligent to say… say it intelligently.
Besides, I figured out Obama’s strategy… the people that try to undermine everything Obama does are going to scream about him sending more troops… so then he will comply and bring them all home… and then everybody will be happy.
Reverse Psychology…. brilliant.
“Patriot’ – Whoops!… I accidentally spelled your ‘name’ wrong.
- Fran Lawrence
As I told my soldiers. If ur gonna bitch about a problem. U better have an idea to fix it.
Man oh man, you really need to fact check once akay, for instance you mention Nixon and Vietnam correct…WRONG!!! BIG TIME WRONG!!!!!…Nixon has N.V. on its knees and N.V. had agree to withdrawn and not I repeat NOT engage in anymore action against S.V., in turn We (Thats us the U.S.) would STOP BOMBING N.V.. Fact check it idiot.
Then Nixon got caught up in watergate (as a matter of fact a lot of people think Nixon was set up for that..do some fact checking) anyhow when Nixon Resign and I think it was Ford who took over..well, N.V. saw its chance and started again against S.V. and the promise to start bombing N.V. never happen…therefore after a few more yrs of fighting we sign a peace agreement and withdrew. Hey Idiot how many of the enemy was killed in Tet of 1968 Vs us? I bet you don’t know do you? Try over 32,000 of them and a anywhere between 1 and 2 thousand of us. Now tell me the kill rato..idiot…As a matter of fact WE never lost a battle in Vietnam..fact check that! Our kill rato was something like 10 to 1, fact check that….
And as far as leaving the POW’s behind..Mister your flat ass wrong and thats a LIE and a BIG LIE and you know it….Why don’t YOU go ask JOHN THE COMMIE KERRY AND JOHN McCAIN about that..idiot…Kerry was caught by his own aids shedding the documents to the POW’s (the orginal ones).
Why don’t you and your bunch of coward go the site call “Proud Honorable Vietnam Vetrans” and learn the truth behind Kerry and rest of your pure bullshit…I would much rather belong to that site then this bunch of chicken shit liars. Who thought they were warriors put couldn’t pony up but yet still claim they are…Warriors are born, not Train and you never forget it. You can train a man till the cows come home, but when flag goes up, all that trainning doesn’t mean a then, if he can’t use it and turns into YOU…
Dennis,
Nixon announced Vietnamization as part of his political compaign in 1968.
Watergate didn’t become a real problem until after 1973.
Of the Kerry McCain cabal, why are you saying that Kerry did the things McCain did?
Anyway, this is closer to reality than you usually get.
We can all be thankful for that.
g
I assume when you state Warriors are born, not Train(ed) You are describing yourself as a Warrior. So exactly when was the last time you used those “born with abilities?” Your bravado filled rants would be much more convincing if you were writing them from a battlefield somewhere.
Also, I read when we replace the first letter of our last name with the first letter of our first name we learn the true nature of our being. Mines Dotsford. I’m sure that probably means Super Duper Warrior in “being speak.” I wonder what yours says…. Oh! nevermind. LOL
Dennis – You are wrong.
The “president,” if you want to call him that, lied because he is a politician and lying is what they all do whether Democrat, Republican, or Independent. You can see and feel the lies in all levels of government, local, county, state and federal. We need people like we once had in government. Ordinary people like us who don’t make politics a career. People in office who honestly want to do a job and then leave when it’s over. There is too much celebrity afforded to politicians today and it goes to their swelled heads. Obama is no different. We are going to be involved in Afghanistan for a long, long time. Even if Obama pulls the troops out, coincidently, just before he is due to be re-elected, they will have to return. Make no mistake about it, radical Islam is determined to spread in the world and, in fact, already has spread worldwide. As Bush said on the day of the 9/11 attack, we are fighting a war now without end. Put the fire out in one place, and it springs up in another. We are involved in the second wave of a war that began a thousand years ago, The Crusades. It’s in a different version now to suit modern times, but it’s the same war. We are having trouble seeing if we are winning or not because we are not fighting any country. We are fighting a radical philosophy, and how do you know when you have won or lost the war?
As a part time military history prof, I find it rather distrubing that we or any nation would let the enemy, or so they say, know the approximate time we would be leaving. If I were the Taliban or the so called terrorists over in that area, I would re arm, stockpile, hunkerdown, get more heavier weapons and wait 18 months.
Steve
Suggest you consider a stronger background in south asian history first.
I got back to school on this one…
g
G-
So correct, as you so often are – so many others are afraid to speak their mind out of fear that, in some way, they could be taken out.
As we are both former combat Marines, we both have the taste of whats its about on the ground. The literal smell of death, the constant fear, the paranoia, the killing of innocents, stuffing our buddies intestines back in their gut, talking to them knowing damn well they will be zipped up in a body bag in minutes.
And of course, its our fellow Marines who will always be the first to deploy, the first to die, and the last to mop up and leave.
I salute you brother for having no fear and speaking the truth. As I have written, and so many others, we have no business being in Afghanistan, let alone escalating a no reason, no purpose war.
Semper Peace!
Chuck
Chuck
My only real fear is the biting wit of Dennis Rick.
You have no idea how many people we have pissed off. If our writers could get a buck for each death threat, some of them would have to start paying taxes.
g
WE STAND TOGETHER… CAN’T TAKE US ALL OUT!!!!!! THERE WAS A MAN WHO ONCE,,, (CORRECTLY SAID) “PEACE CAN LAST FOREVER” HE WAS MURDERED IN COLD BLOOD….. SOME OF THE PERPS STILL WALK TODAY….
obviously alot of the pissed off probably aren’t military. their right wing tough guys who have never seen combat smelled the death. i’m ex army a 63b20 mech.was up country(quantri) only 2 days when after filling sandbags all day two duce and a halfs came to the replacement area for some chow in the area where we had been filling sand bags,in the back were these black bags,we didn’t know what they were and they’er were 20+of stacked up.needless to say i was sick as hell for two days when i learned from one the drivers that they had just returned from charlie 2 or alfa 4 with the dead from a rocket attack.ever since then i’ve held all you cats in the highest regard that carried a rifle for this country.thanks for your service from a grateful vet.
least we all forget we went into bahgdad only after the freakin’ contract killers got themselves killed.why were the corporate killers in the city anyway? to buy lunch? to get postcards to send to mom?maybe to get all documents linking sadam and the big oil companies with the blackmarket.al qiada and the taliban don’t give a damn about the american people,they hate the ruthless corporations that steal their resources pollute their air ,water and soil and then plant they’re goverment with pro corporate stooges.thats why we were attacked.i don’t think america ever created any goddamn democracies anywhere,we only creat fascist states! and noew its coming home to roost.
What a let down!
It”s back to the Khyber Pass again, with kilts whirling, pipes whining, a la Gunga Din.
I expected a complete withdrawal, like the one we’re waiting that was promised in Iraq.
All this amounts to is a replay of the Bush years.
Not one American, or, member of the coalition forces, should die or get mangled in this idiotic surge.
Cheney said withdrawal from Iraq would result in mass murder.
Didn’t we hear the same about Afghanistan the other night uttered by our president?
When will they ever learn?
Your right Duff,..my forte is not south Asian history but I bounced your comment off several friends of mine at a big ten university and they totally agreed with me. The Taliban is looking at when we get out and will do exactly what I thought they would,……stock up and be ready when we leave. Although it looks like the Sec of Defense and Sec Clinton put a different spin on it.
Oh yes, both profs are foreign, one being from Kuwait and the other from Pakistan.