YEARS OF DECEIT: US OPENLY ACCEPTS BIN LADEN LONG DEAD
December 5, 2009 posted by Gordon Duff · 128 Comments
BIN LADEN NEVER MENTIONED IN McCHRYSTAL REPORT OR OBAMA SPEECH
"HUNT FOR BIN LADEN" A NATIONAL SHAME
By Gordon Duff/STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor
Conservative commentator, former Marine Colonel Bob Pappas has been saying for years that bin Laden died at Tora Bora and that Senator Kerry’s claim that bin Laden escaped with Bush help was a lie. Now we know that Pappas was correct. The embarassment of having Secretary of State Clinton talk about bin Laden in Pakistan was horrific. He has been dead since December 13, 2001 and now, finally, everyone, Obama, McChrystal, Cheney, everyone who isn’t nuts is finally saying what they have known for years.
However, since we lost a couple of hundred of our top special operations forces hunting for bin Laden after we knew he was dead, is someone going to answer for this with some jail time? Since we spent 200 million dollars on "special ops" looking for someone we knew was dead, who is going to jail for that? Since Bush, Rumsfeld and Cheney continually talked about a man they knew was dead, now known to be for reasons of POLITICAL nature, who is going to jail for that? Why were tapes brought out, now known to be forged, as legitimate intelligence to sway the disputed 2004 election in the US? This is a criminal act if there ever was one.
In 66 pages, General Stanley McChrystal never mentions Osama bin Laden. Everything is "Mullah Omar"now. In his talk at West Point, President Obama never mentioned Osama bin Laden. Col. Pappas makes it clear, Vice President Cheney let it "out of the bag" long ago. Bin Laden was killed by American troops many many years ago.
America knew Osama bin Laden died December 13, 2001. After that, his use was hardly one to unite America but rather one to divide, scam and play games. With bin Laden gone, we could have started legitimate nation building in Afghanistan instead of the eternal insurgency that we invented ourselves.
Without our ill informed policies, we could have had a brought diplomatic solution in 2002 in Afghanistan, the one we are ignoring now, and spent money rebuilding the country, 5 cents on the dollar compared to what we are spending fighting a war against an enemy we ourselves recruited thru ignorance.
The bin Laden scam is one of the most shameful acts ever perpetrated against the American people. We don’t even know if he really was an enemy, certainly he was never the person that Bush and Cheney said. In fact, the Bush and bin Laden families were always close friends and had been for many years.
What kind of man was Osama bin Laden? This one time American ally against Russia, son of a wealthy Saudi family, went to Afghanistan to help them fight for their freedom. America saw him as a great hero then. Transcripts of the real bin Laden show him to be much more moderate than we claim, angry at Israel and the US government but showing no anger toward Americans and never making the kind of theats claimed. All of this is public record for any with the will to learn.
How much of America’s tragedy is tied with these two children of the rich, children of families long joined thru money and friendship, the Bush and bin Laden clans.
One son died in remote mountains, another lives in a Dallas suburb hoping nobody is sent after him. One is a combat veteran, one never took a strong stand unless done from safety and comfort. Islam once saw bin Laden as a great leader. Now he is mostly forgotten.
What has America decided about Bush?
We know this: Bin Laden always denied any ties to 9/11 and, in fact, has never been charged in relation to 9/11. He not only denied involvement, but had done so, while alive, 4 times and had vigorously condemned those who were involved in the attack.
This is on the public record, public in every free country except ours. We, instead, showed films made by paid actors, made up to look somewhat similar to bin Laden, actors who contradicted bin Ladens very public statements, actors pretending to be bin Laden long after bin Laden’s death.
These were done to help justify spending, repressive laws, torture and simple thievery.
For years, we attacked the government of Pakistan for not hunting down someone everyone knew was dead. Bin Laden’s death hit the newspapers in Pakistan on December 15, 2001. How do you think our ally felt when they were continually berated for failing to hunt down and turn over someone who didn’t exist?
What do you think this did for American credibility in Pakistan and thru the Islamic world? Were we seen as criminals, liars or simply fools? Which one is best?
This is also treason.
How does the death of bin Laden and the defeat and dismemberment of Al Qaeda impact the intelligence assessments, partially based on, not only bin Laden but Al Qaeda activity in Iraq that,not only never happened but was now known to have been unable to happen?
How many "Pentagon Pundits," the retired officers who sold their honor to send us to war for what is now known to be domestic political dirty tricks and not national security are culpable in these crimes?
I don’t always agree with Col. Pappas on things. I believe his politics overrule his judgement at times. However, we totally agree on bin Laden, simply disagree with what it means. To me lying and sending men to their deaths based on lies is treason.
Falsifying military intelligence and spending billions on unnecessary military operations for political reasons is an abomination. Consider this, giving billions in contracts to GOP friends who fill campaign coffers, and doing so based on falsified intelligence is insane. This was done for years.
We spent 8 years chasing a dead man, spending billions, sending FBI agents, the CIA, Navy Seals, Marine Force Recon, Special Forces, many to their deaths, as part of a political campaign to justify running American into debt, enriching a pack of political cronies and war profiteers and to puff up a pack of Pentagon peacocks and their Whitehouse draft dodging bosses.
How many laws were pushed thru because of a dead man?
How many hundreds were tortured to find a dead man?
How many hundreds died looking for a dead man?
How many billions were spent looking for a dead man?
Every time Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld stood before troops and talked about hunting down the dead bin Laden, it was a dishonor. Lying to men and women who put their lives on the line is not a joke.
Who is going to answer to the families of those who died for the politics and profit tied to the Hunt for Bin Laden?
Veterans Today Senior Editor Gordon Duff is a Marine combat veteran and regular contributor on political and social issues.
While I do think Bin Laden is dead, I’m afraid I don’t see ANY proof in this article. Or any admission of such, by anyone of note.
Very misleading to suddenly claim the US is openly accepting that he’s dead, when you can’t provide any concrete evidence of such. Just your opinion, informed by the fact that they’re no longer making him their focus.
OK…lets say you are right and he is alive just turned invisible 8 years ago and everyone believes he is dead…
he has no followers
only a few fools in the US who spend their children to die looking for ….the easter bunny.
your synthesis is flawed
g
Hopefully the troops that vote Republican understand why the Republicans support the military, it’s to make themselves and their friends rich.
As a veterab if WW2, U.S. Marine, female, I feel we, the citizens of this country never really know what is happening. Lies from Bush and now many, many lies from the existing person in the white house. My son sent me this information, I lived thru those years, but I honestly can say I never heard that Bin Laden was dead. Seems like it was not reported in any news, I watch Fox daily and now I am disabled and 85 years old, not employed. My son has been telling me these things, but some I believed and some not. But, I did not agree with Bush on the border at all. All I can say now is God Bless America
Goldie,
We are hear doing our work….research….and making government accountable because we care what happens to our kids.
Several of us here have lost children and know the pain of it. Some of us have fought in wars and know the game….that war has become.
This is not WW2.
This is WWOil.
g
Bin Laden dead? No way! I have iron clad proof he is alive!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr5aFDfdcl4&feature=player_embedded
Also I have proof that a band called Rammstein went to the moon before Apollo 11!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w9EksAo5hY
See, its all true, you can see it with your own eyes!
How many of you out there have seen the movie “Wag the dog”? How many know how advanced graphics are these days? They could fake an alien landing tomorrow and if the papers reported it as being TRUE, would you believe it because you saw it on tv and read about it in the paper?
Why do people question where I get my sources, yet never question the papers/tv if they say “an unnamed source said…….”
Learn about deceptions and false flags!
I actually watched the Rammstein rocket take off. It was cool. Bin Laden was with me. Bush was driving. Was it Harken or Zapata oil….I can’t remember. It was one of those companies that launder money for terrorists, though. They picked up the bill. We ate at Denny’s.
g
Lookin’ for Ben ?
check this out
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6027414n&tag=contentMain;cbsCarousel
Feels great to find kindred minds
When I posted this … July 02, 2006 …not so much
DYING REGIME 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNuefnjwbJ0
They stole 2 elections… the first by perverting the supreme court, second the system…nothing happened…Then 9-11 and a war based on a 1000 lies + the treacherous hoisting of a CIA agent… nothing happened… ENRON…zzzzzzzzz….they proceeded to shred the constitution, kidnapped imprisoned & tortured the world over…nothing…spied on one & all, fired top US attorneys, destroyed evidence… nada… conducted Katrina’s thinly veiled ethic cleansing …zilch…seeing how compliant we all where…they took us to the cleaners !
& now we are asked to…
PICK UP THE SOAP !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzPJPHVjc78
“In most communities it is illegal to cry “fire” in a crowded assembly. Should it not be considered serious international misconduct to manufacture a general war scare in an effort to achieve local political aims?” – Dwight D. Eisenhower
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor moves among those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not traitor, he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their garments, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared.” – Cicero, 42 B.C.
“We are watching a poorly staged rendition of Wag the Dog , interpreted for the morbidly stupid and performed by the criminally insane.” – Jules Carlysle
I think the greatest enemy of the US is its own government. I know hundreds of American……….all of them are finest people, humane,loving, kind and sensible. The government is perhaps not made of American people.
You are right Mr Hasan Sir. The US Govt is made up of Zionist jews and Israeli Americans, dual citizens. Yes, not true Americans. Their allegiance is to Israel and the Talmud, not to America. Check out iamthewitnessdotcom for all info on these guys.
Ordinary US citizen doesn’t know or cares to know what is being cooked up by the Government in US. What they care about, as a priority, ever increasing unemployment rate with very adverse economic and social consequences. Shouldn’t the Government spend all that (WAR) money for the economic well being of its citizens
With all due respect for your service to our country Mr. Duffy, although I have believed for some time that Bin Laden is dead, I don’t believe that we have been able to confirm it. I certainly do not believe that President Bush would perpetrate such a cover up. Now, if you were to ask me about some others in the administration, I might believe they could.
Bin Laden being killed or captured would have given President Bush a lot of political capital, it certainly would have made him very popular with the public. And then there is the evidence of audio and video from Bin Laden, which in todays day and age can be faked pretty well, however no on has been able to definitvly prove the rants are fake.
I see in your bio that you are a Vietnam Vet, and actual grunt on the ground Marine, so I know you have seen lots of things that I haven’t. But until we see definitive proof of his death or capture, I believe it is prudent for the military to operate under the assumption that he is still alive.
Thank you for your service to our country,sir.
Jay Are
I apologize for getting the last name wrong, sir. It should not say Mr. Duffy, but Mr. Duff.