Comments on: GORDON DUFF: Is Vietnams Dirty Little Secret True for our New War Too? http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/01/18/is-vietnams-dirty-little-secret-true-for-our-new-war-too/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=is-vietnams-dirty-little-secret-true-for-our-new-war-too Military Veterans and Foreign Affairs Journal - VA - Veterans Administration Sun, 12 Feb 2012 05:25:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Gordon Duff http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/01/18/is-vietnams-dirty-little-secret-true-for-our-new-war-too/comment-page-1/#comment-45918 Gordon Duff Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:48:28 +0000 http://www.veteranstoday.com/?p=10988#comment-45918 Thirl, Wasn't me. I was actually enjoying hearing from you. Your stuff was very on topic and substantive. repost. g Thirl,

Wasn’t me. I was actually enjoying hearing from you. Your stuff was very on topic and substantive.

repost.

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]]> By: thirl a hornbrook http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/01/18/is-vietnams-dirty-little-secret-true-for-our-new-war-too/comment-page-1/#comment-45901 thirl a hornbrook Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:30:26 +0000 http://www.veteranstoday.com/?p=10988#comment-45901 i apologize for my last post . it seems that only the month of jan. was there , but when i posted my comments it appeared . again, my apologies . semper fi . i apologize for my last post . it seems that only the month of jan. was there , but when i posted my comments it appeared . again, my apologies . semper fi .

]]> By: thirl a hornbrook http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/01/18/is-vietnams-dirty-little-secret-true-for-our-new-war-too/comment-page-1/#comment-45898 thirl a hornbrook Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:25:27 +0000 http://www.veteranstoday.com/?p=10988#comment-45898 i see you have removed my comments on this topic . you questioned where i served for 30 months and i responded . no reply . typacal liberal action . i see you have removed my comments on this topic . you questioned where i served for 30 months and i responded . no reply . typacal liberal action .

]]> By: Gordon Duff http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/01/18/is-vietnams-dirty-little-secret-true-for-our-new-war-too/comment-page-1/#comment-45454 Gordon Duff Mon, 22 Mar 2010 22:30:29 +0000 http://www.veteranstoday.com/?p=10988#comment-45454 I would hit that figure on combat patrols but nowhere near that on firefights. I have been in a couple of nasty scraps and been shot at more than a few times but most grunts don't survive their first serious firefight. They are usually initiated by bad guys with the numbers to back it up, thus the extremley high casualty rates for marines. g I would hit that figure on combat patrols but nowhere near that on firefights. I have been in a couple of nasty scraps and been shot at more than a few times but most grunts don’t survive their first serious firefight. They are usually initiated by bad guys with the numbers to back it up, thus the extremley high casualty rates for marines.

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]]> By: thirl a hornbrook http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/01/18/is-vietnams-dirty-little-secret-true-for-our-new-war-too/comment-page-1/#comment-45418 thirl a hornbrook Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:16:24 +0000 http://www.veteranstoday.com/?p=10988#comment-45418 frontline was a figure of speech. i was a river rat and spent my time surrounded by the frontline. i had over 500 combat patrols and was in over 150 firefights all of them in 3 and 4 corps. frontline was a figure of speech. i was a river rat and spent my time surrounded by the frontline. i had over 500 combat patrols and was in over 150 firefights all of them in 3 and 4 corps.

]]> By: Gordon Duff http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/01/18/is-vietnams-dirty-little-secret-true-for-our-new-war-too/comment-page-1/#comment-45282 Gordon Duff Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:30:13 +0000 http://www.veteranstoday.com/?p=10988#comment-45282 depends on what you did for 30 months. if you say you were in the "front lines" I might ask you....where the hell were they? I was in the bush...looking for the front lines. someone had hidden them from me. g depends on what you did for 30 months. if you say you were in the “front lines” I might ask you….where the hell were they?

I was in the bush…looking for the front lines.

someone had hidden them from me.
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]]> By: thirl a hornbrook http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/01/18/is-vietnams-dirty-little-secret-true-for-our-new-war-too/comment-page-1/#comment-45280 thirl a hornbrook Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:09:44 +0000 http://www.veteranstoday.com/?p=10988#comment-45280 i must have led a very sheltered life while i was in south vietnam . in the 30 months that i was there i didn't get to go to px's or exchanges and being on the front line 24/7 the use of dope would likely get you killed . a lot of the postings i see on sites like this are usually from wannabe's and disgruntled people. just my opinion . i must have led a very sheltered life while i was in south vietnam . in the 30 months that i was there i didn’t get to go to px’s or exchanges and being on the front line 24/7 the use of dope would likely get you killed . a lot of the postings i see on sites like this are usually from wannabe’s and disgruntled people. just my opinion .

]]> By: Gordon Duff http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/01/18/is-vietnams-dirty-little-secret-true-for-our-new-war-too/comment-page-1/#comment-36078 Gordon Duff Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:25:34 +0000 http://www.veteranstoday.com/?p=10988#comment-36078 I have interviewed thousands of Vietnam veterans and, of course, am one myself. Your contention that all people who served in support positions could have been involved in the massive black market and drug trade is, I suspect, a miscommunication. Read thru the comments, truckloads of heroin was moving thru US areas. Few know the veteran community as well as I do. 16 years as a writer and 16 years as a service officer and everything in the world crosses your desk. None of it is clear, none of it is simple. The story stands, 100% accurate. Learn to live with a truth you may not have seen but it is true just the same. Learn from it. We aren't lying to you. g I have interviewed thousands of Vietnam veterans and, of course, am one myself. Your contention that all people who served in support positions could have been involved in the massive black market and drug trade is, I suspect, a miscommunication.

Read thru the comments, truckloads of heroin was moving thru US areas.

Few know the veteran community as well as I do. 16 years as a writer and 16 years as a service officer and everything in the world crosses your desk. None of it is clear, none of it is simple.

The story stands, 100% accurate. Learn to live with a truth you may not have seen but it is true just the same. Learn from it. We aren’t lying to you.

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]]> By: Randy http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/01/18/is-vietnams-dirty-little-secret-true-for-our-new-war-too/comment-page-1/#comment-36077 Randy Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:20:48 +0000 http://www.veteranstoday.com/?p=10988#comment-36077 I'm trying to fool and old fooler. You have in the past made it sound if you were not in the bush you don't rate. I've seen both sides also. I also seen a lot of things and have no reason to fool anyone and those were not my intentions. I never even heard of wannabe until I read your article. I don't care if someone said they were there and wasn't. I feel sorry for people like that. 60% R I’m trying to fool and old fooler. You have in the past made it sound if you were not in the bush you don’t rate. I’ve seen both sides also. I also seen a lot of things and have no reason to fool anyone and those were not my intentions. I never even heard of wannabe until I read your article. I don’t care if someone said they were there and wasn’t. I feel sorry for people like that.

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]]> By: Gordon Duff http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/01/18/is-vietnams-dirty-little-secret-true-for-our-new-war-too/comment-page-1/#comment-35941 Gordon Duff Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:44:33 +0000 http://www.veteranstoday.com/?p=10988#comment-35941 Randy, We spent 6 years on the AOL/History Channel section back in the 90s, getting vets from all over Vietnam in every MOS to describe their experiences. We also got many WW@ and Korea vets on board. I saw people in rear areas work 12 hour days and sit up half the night in a bunker. I also saw people who never did anythign commit every outrage imaginable. I rode with one of my friends when me made blackmarket payoffs in DaNang and have seen trucks of food unloaded prior to being taken, 90% empty, out to front line units. Dont fool and old fooler. g Randy,

We spent 6 years on the AOL/History Channel section back in the 90s, getting vets from all over Vietnam in every MOS to describe their experiences. We also got many WW@ and Korea vets on board. I saw people in rear areas work 12 hour days and sit up half the night in a bunker.

I also saw people who never did anythign commit every outrage imaginable. I rode with one of my friends when me made blackmarket payoffs in DaNang and have seen trucks of food unloaded prior to being taken, 90% empty, out to front line units.

Dont fool and old fooler.

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]]> By: Randy http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/01/18/is-vietnams-dirty-little-secret-true-for-our-new-war-too/comment-page-1/#comment-35933 Randy Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:16:48 +0000 http://www.veteranstoday.com/?p=10988#comment-35933 If you are writing to me, yes I was there, 5th comm (Camp Hoi Long and 7th Comm Camp Books). I also posted your feelings about going to the PX and feeling some were doing nothing on forum2.aimoo.com 5thcommbn. You make some people who were there worthless. Some of us were not in the bush but we served with honor. We worked hard every day to make sure your radios were repaired and delivered. We worked on wire constantly cut. We didn't run off to and hide in Canada. If you are writing to me, yes I was there, 5th comm (Camp Hoi Long and 7th Comm Camp Books). I also posted your feelings about going to the PX and feeling some were doing nothing on forum2.aimoo.com 5thcommbn. You make some people who were there worthless. Some of us were not in the bush but we served with honor. We worked hard every day to make sure your radios were repaired and delivered. We worked on wire constantly cut. We didn’t run off to and hide in Canada.

]]> By: Ed http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/01/18/is-vietnams-dirty-little-secret-true-for-our-new-war-too/comment-page-1/#comment-35736 Ed Sun, 24 Jan 2010 18:32:37 +0000 http://www.veteranstoday.com/?p=10988#comment-35736 Hell yes it's true I was with the White Horse Div.(Koreans) One gi sent stuff home all the time to Korea he said when he got home he would have all the money he wanted.We ate old c-rations done without our S-p Packs for weeks on end TO who wrot this thank you TO all vets WELCOME HOME Hell yes it’s true I was with the White Horse Div.(Koreans) One gi sent stuff home all the time to Korea he said when he got home he would have all the money he wanted.We ate old c-rations done without our S-p Packs for weeks on end TO who wrot this thank you TO all vets WELCOME HOME

]]> By: Marlboro Man http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/01/18/is-vietnams-dirty-little-secret-true-for-our-new-war-too/comment-page-1/#comment-35728 Marlboro Man Sun, 24 Jan 2010 17:31:46 +0000 http://www.veteranstoday.com/?p=10988#comment-35728 In 70 I was in the rear for a couple days and was playing poker with the supply nco after he was getting drunk and losing his ass (to me) I ask how he could lose so much ,he just grined and said this is small change!That why I had to ware the same dam boots for a year !!!And yes the drugs were shipped home and else where by the trucks full! In 70 I was in the rear for a couple days and was playing poker with the supply nco after he was getting drunk and losing his ass (to me) I ask how he could lose so much ,he just grined and said this is small change!That why I had to ware the same dam boots for a year !!!And yes the drugs were shipped home and else where by the trucks full!

]]> By: Melvin http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/01/18/is-vietnams-dirty-little-secret-true-for-our-new-war-too/comment-page-1/#comment-35699 Melvin Sun, 24 Jan 2010 12:11:45 +0000 http://www.veteranstoday.com/?p=10988#comment-35699 This type of stuff has been going on at least since the Civil War, but that doesn't mean we still have to tolerate it. Maybe it's time to just start naming names. Every NCO and O you saw and can remember compile his friggin' name on a net list and make it searchable. "Hey grandpa, is that your name my class discovered as being a stinking, no-good, dealing-with-the-enemy crook while in Nam? You always told me you were a hero." This type of stuff has been going on at least since the Civil War, but that doesn’t mean we still have to tolerate it. Maybe it’s time to just start naming names. Every NCO and O you saw and can remember compile his friggin’ name on a net list and make it searchable. “Hey grandpa, is that your name my class discovered as being a stinking, no-good, dealing-with-the-enemy crook while in Nam? You always told me you were a hero.”

]]> By: Randy http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/01/18/is-vietnams-dirty-little-secret-true-for-our-new-war-too/comment-page-1/#comment-35637 Randy Sun, 24 Jan 2010 02:37:45 +0000 http://www.veteranstoday.com/?p=10988#comment-35637 I, I, I, that's all I hear. I, I, I, that’s all I hear.

]]> By: Gordon Duff http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/01/18/is-vietnams-dirty-little-secret-true-for-our-new-war-too/comment-page-1/#comment-35283 Gordon Duff Thu, 21 Jan 2010 04:35:39 +0000 http://www.veteranstoday.com/?p=10988#comment-35283 I have driven thru Iraq looking at the empty fields where American hospitals were built. g I have driven thru Iraq looking at the empty fields where American hospitals were built.

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]]> By: Oldleatherneck http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/01/18/is-vietnams-dirty-little-secret-true-for-our-new-war-too/comment-page-1/#comment-35252 Oldleatherneck Wed, 20 Jan 2010 18:42:20 +0000 http://www.veteranstoday.com/?p=10988#comment-35252 In 1968 I was nieve, young and dumb. I do know if I hadn't taken advantage of the piles of clothing boots and recycled gear outside of graves registration, I would have been naked and defencless. I didn't at the time make the conection that there corruption going on. However in 2004 when I was a govt contractor in Iraq I saw first hand of what you speak. In 1968 I was nieve, young and dumb. I do know if I hadn’t taken advantage of the piles of clothing boots and recycled gear outside of graves registration, I would have been naked and defencless. I didn’t at the time make the conection that there corruption going on. However in 2004 when I was a govt contractor in Iraq I saw first hand of what you speak.

]]> By: Randy http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/01/18/is-vietnams-dirty-little-secret-true-for-our-new-war-too/comment-page-1/#comment-35247 Randy Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:47:04 +0000 http://www.veteranstoday.com/?p=10988#comment-35247 Them I'm squared-away. Semper Fi till the day I die. MCRD platoon 3185. Them I’m squared-away. Semper Fi till the day I die. MCRD platoon 3185.

]]> By: Gordon Duff http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/01/18/is-vietnams-dirty-little-secret-true-for-our-new-war-too/comment-page-1/#comment-35245 Gordon Duff Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:20:49 +0000 http://www.veteranstoday.com/?p=10988#comment-35245 Randy, We have limited TOS rules here. Only offending writers is a problem. We call it "tyranny." g Randy,

We have limited TOS rules here. Only offending writers is a problem. We call it “tyranny.”
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]]> By: Randy http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/01/18/is-vietnams-dirty-little-secret-true-for-our-new-war-too/comment-page-1/#comment-35244 Randy Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:16:46 +0000 http://www.veteranstoday.com/?p=10988#comment-35244 I just wanted to state what I saw. I don't go around spreading this story, we are all vets right? Sorry if I offended anyone. I just wanted to state what I saw. I don’t go around spreading this story, we are all vets right? Sorry if I offended anyone.

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