You really do need to learn something about the Constitution in a literal sense.

Put this on your reading list, The Real Lincoln, by Thomas Di Lorenzo.

Your ad hominem aside, I can’t completely fault you, after all, you are a product of your training. That’s what I’ll always appreciate about the training I received, our ability to think for ourselves was actually encouraged and enhanced.

Tom

It’s the FED GOV that made sweet lies to every American who unwittingly trusted them.

Yes, of course, old debts & promises should be paid – but who is the obligated party, in the case of SS ?

Vermont’s secession impulse if motivated by the firm KNOWLEDGE of the impossibility of all the SSA debt – and the fradulent nature of the relationship of citizen claimants for the trillions of dollars yet to be paid, that must come from either forced taxation or printed willy nilly by the Federal Reserve, at the cost of extreme inflation to ALL Americans.

The SS fund is broke – has for 30 years been broke – face the facts.

The CBO admits it every year, but government slaves (if you think they OWE you a cushy retirement, that includes YOU), refuse to listen to the more objective voice of the CBO, in preference to the sweet lies of the DemoPublicans & Republicrat Party.

I know this is tough medicine. Don’t even try to blame Liberty minded Vermonters – or Patriots anywhere with the blame due to the FED.

I will predict that an economy that is ‘unshackled’ from the sinking National morass can only rise, and that raises all boats, including yours….more than we may expect…..hope that give you hope……it does to all us other Patriots.

Your state (assuming you’re a Vermonter) or mine, should, as part of declaring it’s Sovereignty, also repeal legal tender laws, thus allowing competeting currency & gold & silver, etc to enter the Free Market – see Ron Paul’s book End the Fed for more details on that strategy…..

No, still fighting that ‘new war’. The Principles are the same – they’ve never changed. And any debate on Principle lost, remains lost, until Righted.

Our current Federal mess is a result of a festering 150 year old decision to hide our heads in the sand – and re-enthrone a false & deceptive philosophy – that delusion of old, that Centralized Statism is an earthly savior.

Such unbridled power ALWAYS becomes a rival to God & tramples the rights of the people. (I Samuel, chapter 8 lays out the sad template, of old)

This Tower of Babel will fall, but exactly how & when, we can only guess.

I think while it was bloody in 1860, it need not be this time.

Especially with the wide diffusion of knowledge & power that it brings to the Patriots of the several States, thru the Internet – we can know study the original Principles of the Founding Fathers – which is why we are beginning to see diverse groups (on traditional Right & Left, both) in widely spread states ‘revert’ – return – repent, back to Principles of Federalism & Liberty !

“Remove not the Landmark which thy Fathers have set” – says the Scriptures, which is why we cannot go forward aright, until we have corrected our trajectory by looking backward for guidance.

Have you read “Molon Labe”, the novel by Boston T. Party ?- It lays out how a state or confederation of states can separate from the corrupted rest by Honoring & Standing upon Constitution Principle.

This is very different situation than in 1860, which was then a regional divide – it had a border fairly well defined.

Today’s divide is more separate states which demand Liberty + Rural vs. City assumptions.

I don’t claim to understand all that those factors portends – only that the struggle today has some key differences.

I guess an analogy might be, that the War between the States (‘civil war’, commonly called), was like the old Army VS Army on the straight battlefield – european / English style. Who wins that war ? Biggest, Most men, most weapons, most everytime.

The new divide / conflict, is super diverse states that sometimes cluster, contiguous.

So what do Vermont, Wyoming/Montanta/Utah, & Tennesse or Texas have in common ? Ethics & Principles & a strong sense of their own self government, but they’re widely spread, very diverse from each other, but they generally speaking, HATE what the Fed Gov has come to be & affect them to be.

So, if the War Between The States was ARMY VS ARMY, the new confilct is much more like ARMY vs. MULTIPLE, WIDELY SPREAD INSURGENTS – way harder to win, as no matter where you turn, opponents are on every side.

And when the opponents are some of the most productive, most Principled, most devoted, most thoughtful Americans – who DEMAND their States enforce their Natural & God given right to Sovereignty (right to rule their proper sphere of authority), the real question becomes:

How could the Patriot & State Sovereignty move NOT suceed ?

Its Lawful, while the other is UNLAWFUL. The first obey the highest Principles, Natural Law, Biblical Law & The Law of Nations, in short all the Founding Fathers Principles.

At it’s best, this is a revival of genuine Christian Statesmanship.

Contrarywise, the Centralizing Statists are dishonoring to every Principle of Natural Law & the Founders – indeed, it’s especially Idolatrous from a Biblical standard in that it recognizes no limits on it’s own powers (and I can assure you, if that raises your sense of righteous indignation as it does mine, just think how mad GOD & His SON in heaven is at the insult – see Psalm 2 & Psalm 110 for the details).

This UNlawful drive for Centralized Power may rightly be classed with every tryannical regieme in history – take your pick – Cain, Nimrod, Pharoah, Alexander the Perverted, Rome, Middle ages England, Marx, Lennin, Stalin, Mussolini, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot & now the US World Empire ?

26 world dominating empires (I left out many of antiquity) have come & gone – what makes Amerika invincible ?

And again, those Psalm 2 & 110, and Molon Labe by Boston T Party lay out an insightful possible future, one where the wicked mainly harm themselves, as they damn their own souls, and where God protects, prospers & blesses those who obey Him & our nations Founders.

God be praised – because these prophetic outlines provide a lot more hope than my worst dreams !

Molon Labe !

“We’re in God’s hands brother, not in theirs !” – Christian King Henry V to his depressed & doubtful soldiers on the eve of their smashing victory over the French at Agincourt, outnumbered & ill equipped as they were…..

Samuel Adams
In the Spirit of ’76