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GORDON DUFF: CASE CLOSED, BIN LADEN’S TRUE TRANSLATION ON 9/11 ATTACK

CIA TRANSLATION OF OSAMA BIN LADEN

INTERVIEWED ON 9/11 (ENGLISH VOICE OVER WITH CIA OFFICAL TRANSCRIPT BELOW)

By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor

The Western media is unleashing such a baseless propaganda, which makes us surprise but it reflects on what is in their hearts and gradually they themselves become captive of this propaganda. They become afraid of it and begin to cause harm to themselves. Terror is the most dreaded weapon in modern age and the Western media is mercilessly using it against its own people. It can add fear and helplessness in the psyche of the people of Europe and the United States….Osama bin Laden

This video has been shown many times with Osama bin Laden’s voice clearly in Arabic and a translation in English that is totally wrong.  Most people who believe Osama bin Laden was responsible for 9/11 believe so because of this falsified translation, falsified just like the “dancing Palestinians” that Israel claimed to have filmed that we later found never existed.  There are things you can assume from this video:

  1. Osama bin Laden is either telling the truth or lying, neither one matters because…..
  2. Tapes released later (bin Laden’s death was confirmed as December 13, 2001) that contradict his proven words must be counterfeit or bin Laden would lose his followers by violating his own proven statements about his religious beliefs.
  3. As all subsequent counterfeit tapes originated from sources tied to Israel, source of the counterfeit “dancing Palestinian” video, these deceptions must have been done for a reason
  4. Production and distribution of known counterfeit bin Laden tapes are felonies, obstruction of justice, conspiracy, material support for terrorism and dozens more counts.
  5. As these tapes are known to have been made in Israel and distrubuted by sources tied to Israeli intelligence, any and all persons tied to these tapes, production, “authentication” and distribution, perhaps even broadcast should be subject to arrest for terror related charges and subjected to “enhanced interrogation” and detention as “enemy combatants.”


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This tape, the real Osama bin Laden, confronts us with some unpleasant realities.  Either he lost his mind, assuming that his statements about his beliefs in this interview seen by 500,000,000 Muslims would be forgotten, all of whom actually understood what he really said, and started putting out audio tapes, mailed to Israel it seems, that contradict this very clear statement or

This, in itself, because so many counterfeits have been created, most easily tracing back to Israel, is enough reason for a reasonable person to investigate the possibility that Israel was either involved before 9/11 or, with much more certainty, was asked to help cover up the involvement of some other group afterward.

I have not seen evidence that Israel planned 9/11, though they benefitted from it more than any other country.  However, there is more than enough proof that Israel violated American laws in producing falsified evidence after the incident took place.  At a state level, being involved in producing the tapes themselves is “material support of terrorism” against the United States.

Again, we come down to why the FBI has never been able to charge Osama bin Laden.  If Bin Laden can’t be indicted, those who produce the phony evidence that the FBI ignores as counterfeit must be guilty of crimes.  This is unavoidable.  Lie to an FBI agent and see how long you stay out of jail.  Produce a phony confession to a crime and see how many criminal charges are heaped on you.  Facts are facts and law is law.   Let a jury decide.

Is Israel so powerful it is above any American law?

DECLASSIFIED TRANSCRIPT PROVIDED BY THE CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY FOREIGN BROADCASTING INTERNATIONAL SERVICE:

FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY

Website of Doha Al-Jazirah Satellite Channel Television in Arabic

[FBIS Report] Website of Doha Al-Jazirah Satellite Channel Television in Arabic,independent television station financed by the Qatari Government, which can be accessedat URL: http://www.aljazeera.net, carries at 2011 GMT on 24 September the text of the following letter by Usama Bin Ladin “to the Pakistani people.”

“And the witnesses who testify in the eyes of their lord, they shall have their reward and

their lights. [Koranic verse]

To our Muslim brothers in Pakistan

God’s peace and prayers be upon you:

I have heard with great sorrow that some of our brethren Muslims in Karachi were killed

while they were expressing their opposition to the aggression of the forces of crusader

America and its allies against the Muslims’ territories in Pakistan and Afghanistan. We

beseech Almighty God to accept them as martyrs and place them among the prophets, the

sincere lovers of truth, the martyrs, and the benevolent people who are the best

companions, grant their families patience and solace, bless their children and property,

and reward them on behalf of Islam.

Those who left children behind them, their children are mine. I will be their caretaker,

God willing.

No wonder that the Muslim nation in Pakistan has rushed to defend their Islam. Pakistan

is the first line of defense of Islam in this region, as Afghanistan was on the front line of

defending itself and Pakistan against the Russian invasion more than 20 years ago.

We hope that these brothers would be the first martyrs in Islam’s battle in this age against

the new Jewish crusade that is being led by the biggest crusader, Bush, under the banner

of the cross. This battle is one of Islam’s immortal battles.

We incite our Muslim brothers in Pakistan to deter with all their capabilities the

American crusaders from invading Pakistan and Afghanistan for the prophet, may God’s

peace and blessings be upon him, who said: He who does not join fighters in battle, fails

to support them financially or take care of a fighter’s family will be punished by God

before the Day of Judgment.

I bring you the good news, brothers, that we are firm on the path of jihad for the cause of

God, following the example God’s messenger, God’s peace and blessings be upon him,

with the heroic faithful Afghan people, and under the leadership of our mujahid amir,

who prides himself in his religion, Prince of the Faithful Mullah Mohammad Omar.

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We beseech God to grant him victory against the forces of infidelity and arrogance, and

to crush the new crusader-Jewish campaign on the land of Pakistan and Afghanistan.

“If Allah helps you, none can overcome you: If He forsakes you, who is there, after that,

that can help you? In Allah, then, let believers put their trust.” Koranic verse

[Signed] Your brother in Islam, Usama Bin-Muhammad Bin Ladin

‘Exclusive’ Interview With Usama Bin Ladin on 11 Sep Attacks

in US

Karachi Ummat in Urdu 28 Sep 01 pp 1, 7

["Exclusive" interview with Usama Bin Ladin by unidentified Ummat special

correspondent: "The US should search attackers within itself", place and date not given,

first paragraph is Ummat introduction]

[FBIS Translated Text]

Kabul: Prominent Arab Mujahid [holy warrior] Usama Bin Ladin has said that he or his

al-Qua’ida group has nothing to do with the 11 September suicidal attacks in Washington

and New York. He said the US Government should find the attackers within the country.

In an exclusive interview with daily “Ummat,” he said these attacks could be the act of

those who are part of the American system and are rebelling against it and working for

some other system. Or, Usama said, this could be the act of those who want to make the

current century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity. Or, the American

Jews, who are opposed to President Bush ever since the Florida elections, might be the

masterminds of this act. There is also a great possibility of the involvement of US

intelligence agencies, which need billions of dollars worth of funds every year. He said

there is a government within the government in the United States. The secret agencies,

he said, should be asked as to who are behind the attacks. Usama said support for attack

on Afghanistan was a matter of need for some Muslim countries and compulsion for

others. However, he said, he was thankful to the courageous people of Pakistan who

erected a bulwark before the wrong forces. He added that the Islamic world was

attaching great expectations with Pakistan and, in time of need, ‘we will protect this

bulwark by sacrificing of lives.’ Following is the interview in full detail:

Ummat: You have been accused of involvement in the attacks in New York and

Washington. What do you want to say about this? If you are not involved, who might

be?

Usama: In the name of Allah, the most beneficent, the most merciful. Praise be to Allah,

Who is the creator of the whole universe and Who made the earth as an abode for peace,

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for the whole mankind. Allah is the Sustainer, who sent Prophet Muhammad for our

guidance. I am thankful to the Ummat Group of Publications, which gave me the

opportunity to convey my viewpoint to the people, particularly the valiant and Momin

[true Muslim] people of Pakistan who refused to believe in lie of the demon. I have

already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As

a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. Neither I had any knowledge of these

attacks nor I consider the killing of innocent women, children, and other humans as an

appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children, and

other people. Such a practice is forbidden ever in the course of a battle. It is the United

States, which is perpetrating every maltreatment on women, children, and common

people of other faiths, particularly the followers of Islam. All that is going on in Palestine

for the last 11 months is sufficient to call the wrath of God upon the United States and

Israel. There is also a warning for those Muslim countries, which witnessed all these as a

silent spectator. What had earlier been done to the innocent people of Iraq, Chechnya,

and Bosnia? Only one conclusion could be derived from the indifference of the United

States and the West to these acts of terror and the patronage of the tyrants by these

powers that America is an anti-Islamic power and it is patronizing the anti-Islamic forces.

Its friendship with the Muslim countries is just a show, rather deceit. By enticing or

intimidating these countries, the United States is forcing them to play a role of its choice.

Put a glance all around and you will see that the slaves of the United States are either

rulers or enemies [of Muslims]. The US has no friends, nor it wants to keep one because

the prerequisite of friendship is to come to the level of the friend or consider him at par

with you. America does not want to see anyone equal to it. It expects slavery from

others. Therefore, other countries are either its slaves or subordinates. However, our

case is different. We have pledged slavery to God Almighty alone and after this pledge

there is no possibility to become the slave of someone else. If we do that, it will be

disregardful to both our Sustainer and his fellow beings. Most of the world nations

upholding their freedom are the religious ones, which are the enemies of United States, or

the latter itself considers them as its enemies. Or the countries, which do not agree to

become its slaves, such as China, Iran, Libya, Cuba, Syria, and the former Russia.

Whoever committed the act of 11 September are not the friends of the American people.

I have already said that we are against the American system, not against its people,

whereas in these attacks, the common American people have been killed. According to

my information, the death toll is much higher than what the US Government has stated.

But the Bush administration does not want the panic to spread. The United States should

try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; the people who are a part of the

US system, but are dissenting against it. Or those who are working for some other

system; persons who want to make the present century as a century of conflict between

Islam and Christianity so that their own civilization, nation, country, or ideology could

survive. They can be any one, from Russia to Israel and from India to Serbia. In the US

itself, there are dozens of well-organized and well-equipped groups, which are capable of

causing a large-scale destruction. Then you cannot forget the American Jews, who are

annoyed with President Bush ever since the elections in Florida and want to avenge him.

Then there are intelligence agencies in the US, which require billions of dollars worth of

funds from the Congress and the government every year. This [funding issue] was not a

big problem till the existence of the former Soviet Union but after that the budget of these

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agencies has been in danger. They needed an enemy. So, they first started propaganda

against Usama and Taliban and then this incident happened. You see, the Bush

administration approved a budget of $40 billion. Where will this huge amount go? It

will be provided to the same agencies, which need huge funds and want to exert their

importance. Now they will spend the money for their expansion and for increasing their

importance. I will give you an example. Drug smugglers from all over the world are in

contact with the US secret agencies. These agencies do not want to eradicate narcotics

cultivation and trafficking because their importance will be diminished. The people in

the US Drug Enforcement Department are encouraging drug trade so that they could

show performance and get millions of dollars worth of budget. General Noriega was

made a drug baron by the CIA and, in need, he was made a scapegoat. In the same way,

whether it is President Bush or any other US President, they cannot bring Israel to justice

for its human rights abuses or to hold it accountable for such crimes. What is this? Is it

not that there exists a government within the government in the United Sates? That

secret government must be asked as to who made the attacks.

Ummat: A number of world countries have joined the call of the United States for

launching an attack on Afghanistan. These also include a number of Muslim countries.

Will al-Qua’ida declare a jihad against these countries as well?

Usama: I must say that my duty is just to awaken the Muslims; to tell them as to what is

good for them and what is not. What does Islam says and what the enemies of Islam

want? Al-Qua’ida was set up to wage a jihad against infidelity, particularly to encounter

the onslaught of the infidel countries against the Islamic states. Jihad is the sixth

undeclared element of Islam. [The first five being the basic holy words of Islam, prayers,

fast, pilgrimage to Mecca, and giving the poor-due] Every anti-Islamic person is afraid

of it. Al-Qua’ida wants to keep this element alive and active and make it part of the daily

life of the Muslims. It wants to give it the status of worship. We are not against any

Islamic country nor we consider a war against an Islamic country as Jihad. We are in

favor of armed jihad only against those infidel countries, which are killing innocent

Muslim men, women, and children just because they are Muslims. Supporting the US

act is the need of some Muslim countries and the compulsion of others. However, they

should think as to what will remain of their religious and moral position if they support

the attack of the Christians and the Jews on a Muslim country like Afghanistan. The

orders of Islamic Shariat [jurisprudence] for such individuals, organizations, and

countries are clear and all the scholars of the Muslim brotherhood are unanimous on

them. We will do the same, which is being ordered by the Ameerul Momineen [the

commander of the faithful] Mulla Omar and the Islamic scholars. The hearts of the

people of Muslim countries are beating with the call of jihad. We are grateful to them.

Ummat: The losses caused in the attacks in New York and Washington have proved that

giving an economic blow to the US is not too difficult. US experts admit that a few more

such attacks can bring down the American economy. Why is al-Qua’ida not targeting

their economic pillars?

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Usama: I have already said that we are not hostile to the United States. We are against

the system, which makes other nations slaves of the United States, or forces them to

mortgage their political and economic freedom. This system is totally in control of the

American Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States. It is simply that the

American people are themselves the slaves of the Jews and are forced to live according to

the principles and laws laid by them. So, the punishment should reach Israel. In fact, it

is Israel, which is giving a blood bath to innocent Muslims and the US is not uttering a

single word.

Ummat: Why is harm not caused to the enemies of Islam through other means, apart

from the armed struggle? For instance, inciting the Muslims to boycott Western

products, banks, shipping lines, and TV channels.

Usama: The first thing is that Western products could only be boycotted when the

Muslim fraternity is fully awakened and organized. Secondly, the Muslim companies

should become self-sufficient in producing goods equal to the products of Western

companies. Economic boycott of the West is not possible unless economic selfsufficiency

is attained and substitute products are brought out. You see that wealth is

scattered all across the Muslim world but not a single TV channel has been acquired

which can preach Islamic injunctions according to modern requirements and attain an

international influence. Muslim traders and philanthropists should make it a point that if

the weapon of public opinion is to be used, it is to be kept in the hand. Today’s world is

of public opinion and the fates of nations are determined through its pressure. Once the

tools for building public opinion are obtained, everything that you asked for can be done.

Ummat: The entire propaganda about your struggle has so far been made by the Western

media. But no information is being received from your sources about the network of al-

Qua’ida and its jihadi successes. Would you comment?

Usama: In fact, the Western media is left with nothing else. It has no other theme to

survive for a long time. Then we have many other things to do. The struggle for jihad

and the successes are for the sake of Allah and not to annoy His bondsmen. Our silence

is our real propaganda. Rejections, explanations, or corrigendum only waste your time

and through them, the enemy wants you to engage in things which are not of use to you.

These things are pulling you away from your cause. The Western media is unleashing

such a baseless propaganda, which make us surprise but it reflects on what is in their

hearts and gradually they themselves become captive of this propaganda. They become

afraid of it and begin to cause harm to themselves. Terror is the most dreaded weapon in

modern age and the Western media is mercilessly using it against its own people. It can

add fear and helplessness in the psyche of the people of Europe and the United States. It

means that what the enemies of the United States cannot do, its media is doing that. You

can understand as to what will be the performance of the nation in a war, which suffers

from fear and helplessness.”

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  1. I’m shocked by how many of the people commenting here believe this video is meant to be anything but a clever way of delivering the actual translation. Of course it looks fake, he didn’t say these things in Englsih. Sheeeeeeesh… it’s satire, people! The video IS fake… the translation is NOT!

  2. USA-THE VICTIM SINDBAD WHO IS HELPLESS TO TOPPLE THE APPARITION OF ZIONISM FROM ITS SHOULDER

    United States of America-Utopian dreamland of Reverend George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln-has turned into the worst devil of imperialism.
    For what purpose USA is doing so? What was fault of the 1.5 million Iraqis? What was the blunder of 1 million cherubic Iraqi Kids- who before witnessing the beauties of the world met their God for entrance in the Eden garden? How it was possible for the Taliban with their prehistoric ammunition become a ‘threat’ for USA- the Super power that history had ever met or will ever meet?

    Is there any answer? no need- i have the answer.All these are proxy- surrogate the zionist diaspora-israel-the demon breeding all satanic schemes around the globe.(zionist’s ‘z’ and israel’s ‘i’ are suggested to be capital as per lexicon but my conscience forbade me to pay any ‘respect’ to the worst two lexis in English)

    Brothers and sisters of USA!

    Do you forget who these zionists are? Aren’t they the alleged killer of Jesus Christ(peace be upon him)? Aren’t they betrayer of Moses(peace be upon him)? Aren’t they the destroyer of authentic spirit of Christianity- sending the true followers of Jesus(pbuh) to holocaust by titling them as ‘Nestorians’? Aren’t they the destroyer of Nativity Church in Holy land of Bathelham? Aren’t they the perpetrators desecrating Notre Dame-Mother Marry(peace be upon her)addressing her as prostitute? Aren’t they the Shylock of Shakespeare cutting flesh of innocuous gentile Bassanio? Aren’t they the Monster who legalize all illegals to establish their devilish New World Order?

    People USA Wake Up!

    You are the worst victims of the machinations of zionism. The Octopus has beset you from all sides. your economy, military, education, administration,media- each and every fundamentals of modern civilization have been snatched away by the Free Mesons- zionists in disguise.Your Presidents are minions(i am sorry to use the word) of them agape towards israel- when the revelation will dispatched from ‘Holy’ tel aviv- with the 10 ‘commandments'; Destroy 1.Iraq 2.Afghasistan 3.Iran 4.Sudan 5.Libya 6.Pakistan 7.Yemen 8.Bangladesh 9. Maldives And finally march toward the prime target 10.Holy land of Saudi Arabia.Wherever you look upon from business,banks via CIA,FBI to Pentagon- every where will you find one or more zionists standing at the top. US senate- the capitol has turned into a ‘Yes man’-assenting blindly to the agenda prepared,edited and finalized in tel aviv.Media – from New york Times to CNN-you will find Rupert Murdoch.In every business Mogul- you will find the ghost of Rockefeller simpering at you.Americans! Do You Know every US child is coming in the world with a debt of 2.5 hundred thousand dollar on his shoulder? Who has made this all-the answer simple- the zinist Frankenstein!

    It’s time to wake up. It’s time to protest the evil. It’s time to eradicate and exterminate zionism. It’s time to annihilate israel- the filthy zionist Diaspora.USA! Let’s move!

  3. There’s a town near here with a library named after the USS Liberty.
    In front is a stone marker with the names of the dead who “lost their lives in this incident”.

    Not one mention of who attacked them. The library is a guilt-release mechanism for the next town south of it, which is where the largest Jewish school is located in the area.

    One should never talk about how our government “might” be controlled by the Zionists without reading about the USS Liberty incident. That incident proved how far the Jews can go without our government doing a damn thing about it.

  4. GOOD RESEARCH ON WHO OWNS AND CONTROL OUR CORPORATE MEDIA ! IT IS SO OBVIOUS !
    BRAVO
    HOPEFULLY THE IDIOTS WILL UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE LIKE SHEEP RUNNING TO THE SLAUGHTER HOUSE WHILE WEARING A “FREEDOM OF CHOICE” T SHIRT.
    KEEP IT UP !

  5. Duffy knowledge is the coin of the realm,but who’s information acurate or propoganda is heard the most? so is the coin counterfit or is it gold? we are losing the battle as long as aipac/multi-international corporations has control of the likes of the dlc,dscc the rnc.there are good people in government,however they have the weight of billions of dollars and manys years of deciet keeping them silent.without people like yourself and many others that link to you to keep information,verifiable information hidden from the masses flowing we’d probably all be standing behind barb wire in a freespeech zone.we need to link to some or all of the politicians who are being stiffled.thanks for the golden coins.

    • Back during the 50s, Americans were terrified of being controlled by a foreign power. Now that it is a fact, those who speak most loudly of patriotism and freedom are also those who went to the other side the quickest.

      Nobody would have been surprised then, nobody is surprised now.

      g

  6. Jeremiah,

    So, if CBS News says something is true, then it is true.

    got it.

    Aren’t they MSM/Corporate media?

    Then isn’t the opposite true?

    Of course, since we broke this story two years ago, isn’t CBS a bit behind?

    g

  7. I can only comment generally on the above article, and look forward to re-reading it. However, after studying the 9/11 official story and cover-up since 2001, or before (since it was related to 2000 election-theft election, and the military plan to dominate the world), I am convinced in the obvious use of the bin-Laden boogie man to justify taking actions that would only create more acts of terrorism.. Only twisting people’s minds with live footage of imploded buildings, 3 down with two planes, could convince an unthinking public to lose their minds in denial of the laws of physics. Thankfully from independent researchers we have found explanations for implosions, molten metal, eyewitness testimonies, seismic movements in the earth just before the planes struct, and thermite explosive evidence in the exploded WTC dust.

    The twisted rhetoric continues to this day; reminding people another big attack can go off at any moment. Gordon, you do us a big service in questioning the boogie man and pointing your finger at the real culprits. I invite folks to read an extensive page with archives since the end of the last Century.. and updated..

    http://www.flybynews.com/cgi-local/newspro/viewnews.cgi?newsid1014738186,11057,

    New 9/11 Investigation vs New World Order

    @ FlybyNews.com

  8. Remember back in 1990, when the old USSR collapsed and there was talk of a ‘peace’ dividend?
    Money that had been spent on fighting commie boogiemen could now be spent on schools, infrasturcture, health care, etc.

    That kind of talk scared the hell out of the Pentagon, defense contractors and Israel, all of whom stood to lose a significant portion of their budget or incomes.

    Presto Chango, within a year, we had another ‘boogieman,’ the Muslim kind.

    This boogieman is 1.5 billion people strong, so we should never run out of people to hate or kill.

    This war, according to former Sec’y of Defense Rumsfeld is supposed to last 70 years, aided and abetted by a Zionist-Neocon run MSM, who skillfully plant psyop stories to scare the hell out of us and keep us stupid, so we’ll cower in fear and not notice the wholesale looting going on in Wall Street and the tons of funny money being printed up by Fed Head Ben ‘Shalom’ Bernanke.

    So go ahead and keep getting PO at Muslim boogieman while your job disappears, your house is foreclosed on and you can’t afford to see a Doc about that stomach pain, while the corrupt and sold out Congress takes away more of our freedoms in order to protect us from some made up phantoms.

    • Thus far, the biggest bin Laden crime I can come up was his ability to tell the truth. According to that, many of us are now terrorists.

      g

      • somewhere around 93-95?, undergoing terror awareness training, I read the official USA description of what constituted a terrorist and understood that the government of the USA was a terrorist. I have always had that problem of seeing that black and white thing. The grey area will get you ever time.

  9. Get a copy of the DVD on 9/11 by the Pilots for 9/11 Truth…and then say that

    9/11 was not an inside job…

    I am a retired Navy vet and have lived and traveled to many places in the world.
    This has opened my eyes to the fact that our country is not run by the open
    government…From day one after the signing of the Declaration of Independence
    there have been factions which did not believe in the right of the individual
    to be responsible for their own lives. If that happened then there was no longer
    any need for a ruling class, because they needed to control in order to gain
    and gather what they need to survive on (PARASITES)

    Remember what Thomas Jefferson said “The price of freedom comes high”…I think
    what he meant by that is that, we as citizens, must be constantly vigilant of
    our government to ensure they are acting in our best interests. The problems
    in USA today, are not because of the politicians but because we have given up
    our right to be vigilant…

    Keep up the good work Gordon…

  10. Sorry your taking a beating on this one. Schools out, you get it or you don,t. Most Americans don,t want to know about the 900 lb gorilla walking up behind them with its sex toy out. Most Americans want to bend over, spread them, pretend it is not going to happen, pretend it is no happening while it is, pull their pants up as soon as its over, pretend it did not happen while they babble on about how the gorilla is their friend.

    • John,
      Perhaps you should read my article, “Splitting America.” The crazy folks are why America needs to go its separate ways.

      g

  11. though majority of people in asia feel bad about 9/11 yet very few believe the version touted by the neo-cons; so no wonder, US is losing her image/credibility. It is making new enemies by the day as it keeps on killing more and more epeople in Af-Pak and as an aftermath of her occupation of IRaq a la ‘WMD’. Such shoddy policies are also dangerous for the majority of Muslims who are against extremism.that way Gordon is really helping his country wake up to the trouble brewing for us all in the years to come Af-Pak is no Vietnam nor Iraq.

  12. Watch and read mohammed T-shirt art from Sweden at,
    http://www.mohammedt-shirt.com
    Please read in English.

  13. Hi g, I don’t think the case is closed. There are still too many inconsistencies. We can’t trust the MSM and frankly, some of your sources you proudly quote are on the shaky side of paranoia. I do think I remember a video clip of OBL speaking shortly after 9/11 saying he wasn’t involved, but America still deserved it.

    I could just as honestly say the shaky Sunni Saddam Hussein planned the attack. He probably didn’t, but I can say it and somewhere it’ll get picked up and spread around the world as factual, quoting the Venerable Veterans Today as the source.

    Other that that, all this speculation about 9/11 is a useless waste of time that is precious to veterans — unless, of course, it is your marketing ploy.

    Now Usama’s thing about the Middle East learning to make gadgets equivalent to the Western products is spot on, and the same problem we have moving Af-Pak forward.

    Tom — Houston vet

    • Tom,

      Read the article.

      We know counterfeit videos and audios were produced in Israel. We know who distributed them. None could be verified but we can prove the intent of creating and distributing them, that intent being conspiracy, material support of terrorism and obstruction of justice, not to mention treason.

      Case closed.
      g

      • Calm down Gordon. Tom didn’t mean to upset you, just messin with your belief system. Bind faith in any source is not advisable.

        • Reamer from the American South,

          I work on intel, you work on TV. God help both of us.
          g

          • Touche, Let’s not get personal, but yes I am from the American South, although not originally. However I thought you didn’t believe in God, forgive me if am mistaken. But yes God help both of us. This country is in one hell of a mess, that I am afraid can never be fixed no matter how much you or I or anyone rant and rail on about it and shake our fist in the face of God.

  14. From an article:

    Former Italian President Francesco Cossiga
    “All the [intelligence services] of America and Europe…know well that the disastrous attack has been planned and realized from the Mossad, with the aid of the Zionist world in order to put under accusation the Arabic countries and in order to induce the western powers to take part … in Iraq [and] Afghanistan.”

    Cossiga was elected president of the Italian Senate in July 1983 before winning a landslide election to become president of the country in 1985, and he remained until 1992.

    http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/9-11_solved118.html

    He is the former president of Italy not Iran.

    • So israel blows up a few things in Italy, Britain and Spain to cause terror scares. No big deal, not compared to 9/11.

      g

      • Gordon,

        The Italian president is referring to 911 and the Mossad. Here is more from the article: Former Italian President Francesco Cossiga, who revealed the existence of Operation Gladio, has told Italy’s oldest and most widely read newspaper that the 9-11 terrorist attacks were run by the CIA and Mossad, and that this was common knowledge among global intelligence agencies.

        He was referring to the Mossad when he stated this: Former Italian President Francesco Cossiga
        “All the [intelligence services] of America and Europe…know well that the disastrous attack has been planned and realized from the Mossad.

        This in not proof of guilt but you won’t hear the Italian president’s comment on USA television networks.

        • Oops! I should have said he was referring to the 911 attacks: Former Italian President Francesco Cossiga
          “All the [intelligence services] of America and Europe…know well that the disastrous attack has been planned and realized from the Mossad.

  15. “pro Right Wing Israeli run U.S. media”. Are you serious! The mainstream media is so far to the left and so anti Israel blatantly anti Israel. This must be a miss speak, surely you don’t believe what you say, maybe you are being factious. Or most likely you just think everyone is stupid and gullible.

    • Please do some research into things like ownership, reality based things.

      You must be one of the people who doesn’t know Rupert Murdoch is a Zionist Jew.

      oops…sorry.

      your day is gone now.

      g

    • Hopefully people understand it’s not an anti-Semitic comment to claim the Zionists control the media. It’s important issue because there is a Jewish state called Israel, otherwise I would not mention it. I hope people can be adults about this and not bring up the ant-Semite card.

      The Zionist controlled media reported all the lies about Iraq because that war was for Israel. Most of the Neocons that brought us the Iraq war are Jewish Zionists, Perle, Leeden, Feith, Wolfowitz, Abrams etc. You won’t hear the media talking about the close to 60 United Nations resolutions regarding Israeli war crimes that the U.S. vetoed. The Zionist and the media are pushing for an Iran attack.

      There are numerous sources about Jewish Zionists controlling the media unfortunately many are sprinkled with some racist comments.

      Here is a list of Jewish Zionists that control the media. They won’t allow criticism of Israel:

      Television Networks:
      CBS:
      Sumner Redstone – chairman of board and CEO of CBS and Viacom, “world’s biggest media giant” (Economist, 11-23-02). Viacom owns Viacom Cable, CBS, and MTV all over the world, Blockbuster Video Rentals, and Black Entertainment TV
      Mel Karmazin – CBS corporation president and CEO
      Leslie Moonves (great-nephew of Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion) – president of CBS Television
      David Poltrack – executive vice-president, Research and Planning
      Jeff Fager – executive director of “60 Minutes II.”
      NBC:
      Jeff Zucker – president of NBC Entertainment
      Neil Shapiro – president of NBC News
      Jeff Gaspin – executive vice-president, programming NBC
      Max Mutchnik and David Kohan – co-exec. producers of NBC’s “Good Morning, Miami”
      Lloyd Braun – chair of NBC Entertainment.
      ABC:
      Michael Eisner – major owner of Walt Disney, Capital Cities, and ABC
      David Westin – president of ABC News.
      FOX:
      Rupert Murdoch (Jewish mother, hence legally Jewish) – owner of FOX TV, New York Post, London Times, and News of the World
      Sandy Grushow – chair, FOX Entertainment
      Peter Chernin – second in command at Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp., owner of FOX TV
      Gail Berman – president of FOX Entertainment.
      CNN:
      Wolf Blitzer – host of CNN’s Late Edition.
      Hollywood Movie Studios:
      Ted Pike’s comment: The prestigious Encyclopedia Judaica, in its article “Motion Pictures,” pg. 449, says: “Thus all the large Hollywood companies, with the exception of United Artists…were founded and controlled by Jews.”
      Sony Corporation of America: Howard Stringer – chief
      -Columbia Pictures: Amy Pascal – chair
      Warner Bros.: Barry Meyer – chair; Jordan Levin – pres. of Warner Bros. Entertainment.
      Miramax Films: Harvey Weinstein – CEO
      Paramount: Sherry Lansing – president of Paramount Communications and chair of Paramount Pictures’ Motion Picture Group.
      DreamWorks: Stephen Spielberg, David Geffen, Jeffrey Katzenberg (owners)
      MTV Entertainment: Brian Graden – president
      Turner Entertainment: Brad Siegal – president
      Radio:
      Clear Channel Communications: Robert Sillerman – founder
      PBS: Ben Wattenberg – moderator, PBS ThinkTank
      Publishers:
      Ted Pike comments: The Encyclopedia Judaica, in its article “Publishing,” lists the following publishing houses, as of 1971, owned or controlled by Jews: Viking, Knopf, Random House, Modern Library, Simon and Schuster, Harcourt, Brace & Co., Greenberg Publishers, Ziff-Davis, Crown Publishers, Dial Press and Dryden Press. Publishing houses either founded by or with a Jew as editor-in-chief include: Farrar, Straus, & Giroux, Abelard-Schumann, Basic Books, Grosset & Dunlap, Federal Writers Project, Gaer Associates, Macmillan & Co., Harry N. Abrams, Inc., Citadel Press, Chanticleer Press, Arthur Frommer, Inc., Hart Publishing Co., Lantern Press, Oceanea Publications, Twayne Publishers, Arco Publishing Co., Grossman Publishers, and Stein & Day.
      Publishing houses involved in book clubs, reprints, or children’s literature either founded by or controlled by Jews include the Literary Guild, Book of the Month Club, Limited Editions Club, Heritage Club, Junior Heritage Club, Readers Club, Jewish Book Guild, Military Science Book Club, Natural History Book Club, Book Collector’s Society, Art Book Guild, Science Book Club, Beech Hurst Press, A. S. Barnes & Co., Sagamore Press, Thomas Yoseloff Inc., The Modern Library, World Publishing Co., Little Blue Books, Pocket Books Inc., Avon Publications, Popular Library, Schocken Books, Golden Books, and Golden Press.
      In its article on New York City, the Judaica adds to the list of publishing houses owned by Jews, Liveright & Boni, and Anchor Books.
      Today Random House, Doubleday, and Anchor Books, while Jewish owned and controlled, participate in the world’s largest publishing consortium, Bertelsmann A.G., benefiting from its staggering distribution advantages. End of Ted Pike’s comments.
      Bertelsmann’s American operations are headed by Joel Klein, chair and CEO.
      David Manaker is executive director for HarperCollins.
      Newspapers:
      Samuel Newhouse Jr. and Donald Newhouse own Newhouse Publications, which includes 26 newspapers in 22 cities. The Conde Nast Magazine Group includes the New Yorker, Parade, the Sunday newspaper supplements, American City Business Journal, business newspapers published in more than 30 major cities in America, and interests in cable television programming and cable systems serving one million homes.
      Wall Street Journal: Peter R. Kahn, CEO
      New York Times, Boston Globe, and other publications: published by Arthur O. Sulzberger Jr.
      New York Daily News: Mortimer Zuckerman, owner
      Village Voice, New Times and network of alternative weeklies: Owned by David Schneiderman
      Washington Post: Donald Graham, chair and CEO, son of Katharine Graham Meyer, former owner of Washington Post
      San Francisco Chronicle: Ron Rosenthal, managing editor; Phil Bronstein, exec. editor
      AOL-Time Warner Book Group: Laurence Kirshbaum, editor
      Magazines:
      US News & World Report: Mortimer Zuckerman, owner and chair of the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish-American Organizations, one of the largest pro-Israel lobbying groups
      New Republic: Marty Peretz, owner and publisher (NR openly identifies itself as pro-Israel.)
      Barron’s: Peter R. Kahn, CEO
      National Review: Michael Ledeen, editor
      Business Week: Bruce Nussbaum, editorial page editor
      Newsweek: Donald Graham, chair and CEO, and Howard Fineman, chief political columnist

      Weekly Standard: William Kristol, editor, also executive director, Project for a New American Century, (PNAC)
      The New Yorker: David Reznik, editor; Nicholas Lehman, writer; Henrick Hertzberg, “Talk of the Town” editor

      • Brian,

        I hope your list doesn’t interfere with “Old Leatherneck’s” odd misconceptions.

        Fact can have such a nasty problem when placed against belief.

        g

      • Thank you for the info Brian. Like Hitler said, “control the information flow to the masses and you control the masses.” At least, that is a paraphrase. I will follow up out of gentile? curiosity.

        Tom the Houston Vet

        • Yes, controlling information is vital to controlling the masses. I am grateful for courageous websites such as Veterans Today, information clearing house, global research, sott, counterpunch, infowars and some others. Just maybe humanitarians will win.

    • OLDLEATHERNECK STILL IGNORANT… ONLY FIVE GIANT CORPORATIONS (CARTELS) OWNS THE US MAINSTREAM MEDIA (SO MUCH FOR ANTI TRUST LAWS AND INDEPENDENT FREE PRESS)
      THREE OF THEM, INCLUDING GENERAL ELECTRIC ARE DEFENSE CONTRACTORS (G.E ACTUALLY MANUFACTURES DEPLETED URANIUM BULLETS FOR THE U.S AND ISRAELI ARMY) VERY LIBERAL IDEED, CLOWN !
      THEN THERE IS FOX NEWS OWNED BY RUPERT MURDOCK AN EXTREME RIGHT WING ZIONIST INVOLVED WITH THE ISRAELI MOSSAD AND MEMBER OF THE BILDERBERG GROUP MEMBERS INCLUDING THE ROTHSCHILDS , ROCKEFELLERS AND THE BRITISH ROYAL FAMILY (LIBERALS ?)
      WHO OWNS THE MEDIA IS WHAT COUNTS AND ALL OF THEM ARE NEO CONS “CORPORATISTS” ASSOCIATED WITH THE “BANKSTERS” OLIGARCHY WHO ARE WORKING TOWARD “WORLD GOVERNMENT” .
      THERE IS NOTHING “LIBERAL” OR “CONSERVATIVE” ABOUT OUR RULING ELITE ONLY CONTROL AND POWER…THEY ARE CREATING THE ILLUSION OF CHOICE BETWEEN TWO GROUPS USING THE GAME OF LIBERAL VERSUS CONSERVATIVE OR DEMOCRAT VERSUS REPUBLICAN WITH AGENT MANIPULATORS STAGING PHONY CONTROVERSIES FOR THE POLITICALLY NAIVE AND IGNORANT MASSES, BUT THE REAL POWER TO BE CONTROL BOTH SIDES OBAMA IS JUST A BLACK FACE TO THEIR NEW WORLD ORDER. HE IS JUST A FRONT MAN CONTINUING WHAT GEORGE W BUSH WAS DOING , OBAMA IS POSING AS A MORE “MODERATE” BUT THE BOTTOM LINE AGENDA DID NOT CHANGE SO THE IDIOTS BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A “CHANGE” TOWARD A MORE “LIBERAL” GOVERNMENT THE LAW FIRM WHERE OBAMA USE TO WORK FOR, IN DETROIT IS A KNOWN CIA FRONT ! HIS CHIEF OF STAFF RHAM EMANUEL SERVED IN THE ISRAELI SPECIAL FORCES FOR YEARS BUT NEVER SERVED IN THE US MILITARY. FOOOOOL ! ANOTHER DETAIL THAT YOUR “LIBERAL MEDIA” DID NOT TELL YOU.
      THE $ 13 TRILLIONS OF NATIONAL DEBT (340 TIMES OUR GDP) WAS NOT CREATED IN ONE YEAR OF ” FALSE LIBERAL” OBAMA PRESIDENCY….AND THERE IS NOTHING THAT NEO CON IDIOT LIKE SARHA PALINE WILL DO ABOUT IT AS LONG AS THE FEDERAL RESERVE CONTROL THE ISSUANCE OF OUR CURRENCY AND NEITHER REPUBLICANS NOR DEMOCRATS ARE WILLING TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM WHICH IS THE ROOT OF OUR FINANCIAL MESS, NO MATTER WHO IS ELECTED.
      THE ONLY “LIBERALS” THAT THIS COUNTRY EVER HAD WERE THOSE WHO WROTE OUR CONSTITUTION AND THEY DIED A LONG TIME AGO.
      HANNITY > LINBAUGH>O REILLEY LIBERALS ? THEY DOMINATE OUR AIRWAVES 24/Hs A DAY AND ARE PAID MILLIONS TO REPEAT THE RIGHT WING ZIONIST CORPORATE PROPAGANDA DICTED BY THEIR BOSS RUPERT MURDOCK ALWAYS PROMOTING WAR EVEN THOUGH NONE OF THEM EVER SERVED IN THE MILITARY (TYPICAL RIGHT WING ELITIST ATTITUDE WATCHING YOUNG KIDS GETTING KILLED IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN FROM THEIR $ 20 MILLION DOLLARS MENTION) AND NOW TO CONCLUDE ,HOPEFULLY SOMEDY WILL UNDERSTAND:

      “RATIONALITY BELONGS TO THE COOL OBSERVER BECAUSE OF THE STUPIDITY OF THE AVERAGE MAN WHO FOLLOWS NOT REASON BUT FAITH AND HIS NAIVE FAITH REQUIRES NECESSARY ILLUSIONS AND EMOTIONALLY POTENT OVERSIMPLIFICATION PROVIDED BY THE MYTH MAKERS TO KEEP THE BELIEVER ON COURSE”
      Reinhold Neibuhr

      • I could say that “decent Americans” are fooled into believing lies that have led to the destruction of their country but that is wrong. The truth was always available, though some lies stick better than others.

        Fox News lies don’t require anything beyond common sense to pick up.

        No excuses. You listen to lies, vote on lies, pass on lies…..you are the problem. If it hurts your country….then you are the enemy.

        Welcome to reality.

        g

  16. Well, there is no absolute proof that Israel’s intelligence agency the Mossad masterminded the 911 attacks (they’re not amateurs) but extensive research strongly indicates that the Mossad masterminds the 911 attacks.

    If this information that strongly indicates the Mossad masterminded the 911 attacks was connected to any other country but Israel it would be all over the news and there would be outrage in this country.

    I have already posted this link at this website but I believe it warrants being posted again due to this topic. This is information the Zionist controlled media want to keep buried:
    http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/2793786/1

    • Brian,

      Yup, only proof they were complicit in the coverup and still are. All terrorism, felonies, treason and murder just the same. Ain’t law grand?

      g

      • Gordon,

        There is ample information that indicates Israel’s Mossad had foreknowledge of the detail of the 911 attacks but to me it’s the overall information indicates they masterminded the 911 attacks.

        It wasn’t Osama and the inept supposed Muslim terrorist pilots like Hani Hanjour. If the information shown in this text http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/2793786/1 was about Iran or even France there would be a major inquiry into whether the intelligence agencies of either of these countries masterminded the 911 attacks. If law enforcement personnel including the FBI investigate Israeli government crimes there careers are over.

  17. The American public has been the most professionally and effectively misinformed populace in the modern world by a blatantly pro Right Wing Israeli run U.S. media.
    We already know the lies told to dupe Americans into supporting an attack on Iraq (approx. 85% enthusiastically wanted to attack a country that only 2%-3% could find on an unmarked map)
    Ahminejahd’s “Wipe Israel from the face of the map” fraudulent and deliberate misquote has been proven a Lie but continues to repeatedly permeate the airwaves and serve the ” Israel First” “Attack Iran” War Mongers (with American blood, of course).
    The most gleeful reactions to America’s 9/11 tragedy came not from “Islamic Terrorists” but Netanyahu and his Expansionist, “Greater Israel” ilk.
    Why, then, is this additional deliberate Israel-serving a surprise?
    America’s True well dressed, “Terrorist ” threat quietly runs our Policies
    and engenders anti Islamic Hate and War Mongering.
    AIPAC media and Political control is America’s REAL threat dwarfs any other.

  18. What happened to Jim’s post? Did not like his remark? BTW, does everyone on this site smarted then all the posters, and they don’t need schooling? You delete some of the posts if they say names about you all, yet you call names yourself, such as ( Palin the pitbull with lipstick)If I should say you are a bunch of idiots and wackos, you would get ticked and delete. Is this site going to turn in to name calling. I read it all through the posts that you make everyday. Regards, BOB

  19. That video has been worked over too much for me to believe it. The lip movement is way off. Makes me wonder how much more on here is worked over. I’ll take some of that stuff that Jim wants if you have any left over. Does not sound like you do

    • The original video is in Arabic and quite public. Find an arab friend to watch it with or pick up one of the translations online which are certified as I indicated. This is a serious world for serious people. Where you live there may be schools.

      Attend one.

      g

    • The picture was him but the eye’s and mouth were dubbed in just as you see on TV with 2 babies talking about stock investments.
      That was poor quality at best! Nothing moves but eye’s and mouth, come on now don’t insult me!

      • Steve,

        I would only insult you for failing to read the same words in the BBC translation below. Hell, who needs to insult you.

        • the words aside, the video is a complete fabrication and very obviously so. In view of that, its broader authenticity has to be questioned, as well.

          • Dai Chai,
            And the CIA translation which matches the video word for word is a ruse also. You will find the CIA translation listed below the video under the title “CIA Translation. You can write, somewhat, but you need to work on your reading skills. This is why, out of courtesy, we supplied the video you are having such difficulty with.
            Advice for you. Have you been to a school?
            I hope there are schools near you.
            Please find one.
            Attend.

            g

    • I agree with Bob Y, this “video has been worked over too much” to be believable.

      From another website:

      The following is an extract from bin Laden’s September 28, 2001 denial of involvement in the 9/11 attacks…
      “This system is totally in control of the American-Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States. It is clear that the American people are themselves the slaves of the Jews and are forced to live according to the principles and laws laid by them. So, the punishment should reach Israel. In fact, it is Israel, which is giving a blood bath to innocent Muslims and the U.S. is not uttering a single word.” [Public Action]

      …and his views were the same in 1998:
      “We say to the Americans as people and to American mothers, if they cherish their lives and if they cherish their sons, they must elect an American patriotic government that caters to their interests, not the interests of the Jews.” [American Free Press]
      http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/osamatape.html

      • Jen,

        The site you are quoting is too heavily edited and takes too much out of context to be credible. Refer to the BBC text you forgot to read below. You are in one of those “conspiracy theory” sites called the American Free Press, a Marxist site. I have nothing against Communism but I don’t trust any site that won’t publish something in its entirelty. This is why I chose the BBC.

        g

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