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GORDON DUFF: SABROSKY INTERVIEW TIES ISRAEL TO 9/11

DR ALAN SABROSKY, FORMER DIRECTOR OF STUDIES AT THE US ARMY WAR COLLEGE

“ISRAEL DID IT”

By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor

Meet Dr. Alan Sabrosky, a brave man, a USMC Vietnam vet, an American of Jewish ancestry and someone devoted to the security of the United States at any cost.   Ask any Jew what it takes to stand up against the most powerful and ruthless group in the world, the Israeli lobby inside the United States.

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Sabrosky has been calling for a new 9/11 investigation for some time.  What makes him unique is that we have a Jew who can hardly be called “self-hating” or “anti-Semitic” or against Israel.  He is consistent in everything he says.  His point is that you are an American or you are an Israeli but you can’t be both, especially now with Zionism turning Israeli foreign policy into a “runaway train.”  9/11, as Sabrosky sees it was the watershed in a relationship between America and Israel that has gone from bad to unsurviveable, especially for America.  He contents that AIPAC exercises near total control over the electoral process in America through the ability to outspend any other group and destroy anyone who stands against them.

The unwillingness of the US to stand with the international community on humanitarian and war crime issues where Israel is found in continual violation is, to Sabrosky, a critial issue.  In discussion the US and her lack of support for the Goldstone Report, Sabrosky says:

US criticism of the HRC resolution should be disregarded, as Washington only parrots Israel’s wishes here…

… it might have been better to have included Goldstone’s condemnation of Hamas offenses as well, but it is legitimate as it stands for five reasons: (1) Israel committed the great majority of the violations; (2) Israel had an overwhelming preponderance of military power; (3) Palestinians suffered almost all of the death and destruction; (4) Israel has a long, sordid history of ignoring UN commissions and resolutions, and of attacking UN facilities and killing UN staff, as when the clearly marked UNRWA facility in Gaza was bombed; and (5) the HRC focus is properly on the actions of the oppressor (Israel) and not on those of the oppressed (the Palestinians).

Another is that it did not accord Israel the right of self-defense. But Israel’s claim to self-defense in its savaging of Gaza is specious, because Israel — like all occupiers and oppressors — has no inherent right of self-defense against its victims. Who, for instance, would have accepted Nazi Germany’s assertion that its brutal reprisals against the Czechs for their assassination of a Nazi commander named Reinhard Heydrich was an exercise in self-defense? No one, and no one should accept Israel’s claim, either.

A third is that holding Israel accountable for its actions will somehow endanger the Middle East peace process. But there is no peace process, simply meaningless discussions to the dead end (for Palestinians and the rest of the region) of Israeli hegemony, and under Netanyahu or any electable government in Israel, there is not and cannot be one. There will be an enforced peace imposed from outside of the Middle East, over the objections and obstruction of Israel, or there will be none at all.

ZIONISM AND ISRAELI NATIONALISM

This is how Sabrosky describes the nature of Jewish nationalism as described within the term we call “Zionism”: 

The differences between Jewish nationalism (Zionism) and that of other countries and cultures here I think are fourfold:

1. Zionism is a real witches’ brew of xenophobia, racism, ultra-nationalism and militarism that places it way outside of a “mere” nationalist context — for example, when I was in Ireland (both parts) I saw no indication whatsoever that the Provisional Irish Republican Army or anyone else pressing for a united Ireland had a shred of design on shoving Protestants into camps or out of the country, although there may well have been a handful who thought that way — and goes far beyond the misery for others professed by the Nazis;

2. Zionism undermines civic loyalty among its adherents in other countries in a way that other nationalist movements (and even ultra-nationalist movements like Nazism) did not — e.g. a large majority of American Jews, including those who are not openly dual citizens, espouse a form of political bigamy called “dual loyalty” (to Israel and the US) that is every bit as dishonest as marital bigamy, attempts to finesse the precedence they give to Israel over the US (lots of Rahm Emanuels out there who served in the Israeli army but NOT in the US armed forces), and has absolutely no parallel in the sense of national or cultural identity espoused by any other definable ethnic or racial group in America — even the Nazi Bund in the US disappeared once Germany and the US went to war, with almost all of its members volunteering for the US armed forces;

3. The “enemy” of normal nationalist movements is the occupying power and perhaps its allies, and once independence is achieved, normal relations with the occupying power are truly the norm, but for Zionism almost everyone out there is an actual or potential enemy, differing only in proximity and placement on its very long list of enemies (which is now America’s target list); and

4. Almost all nationalist movements (including the irredentist and secessionist variants) intend to create an independent state from a population in place or to reunite a separated people (like the Sudeten Germans in the 1930s) — it is very rare for it to include the wholesale displacement of another indigenous population, which is far more common of successful colonialist movements as in the US — and perhaps a reason why most Americans wouldn’t care too much about what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians even if they DID know about it, is because that is no different than what Europeans in North America did to the Indians/Native Americans here in a longer and more low-tech fashion.

Sabrosky is one of the few Americans who sees the nuclear threat of Israel as it is, blackmailing the United States, not only in how it could be used to draw America into an unwanted war, but how it could actually be used at some point to attack the United States itself.  Only recently, Israel put Western Europe on notice that it would be attacked if its actions threatened Israel, attacked by nuclear weaons from Israel without warning.  Martin van Creveld’s threat combined with Sabrosky’s analysis of Israeli intentions and culpability for 9/11 brings to mind something Sabrosky had once written.

He has always seen Moshe Dyan as a hero.  Dyan saw Israel’s military role as that of a “junk yard dog,” ready to bite without warning, attack anything and anyone.  Sabrosky notes that, eventually such an animal is always put down or as he puts it,  ”the preferred response of everyone else is to kill that mad dog before it can decide to go berserk and bite.”

9/11

Sabrosky makes a case, not just for a coverup of 9/11 but goes much further.  He points out as do so many that the physics of the attack are unworkable.  He, however, is one of the few to point to a conclusion many find obvious but few have the nerve to admit, that it would have been impossible to stage 9/11 without the full resources of both the CIA and Mossad and that 9/11 served the interests of both agencies quite well.

There was nothing they could have wished for more.

Sabrosky also makes a point involving media coverage of 9/11:

Finally, we need to take a hard look at why the mainstream media (MSM) have paid more attention to Sarah Palin’s wardrobe than they have to dissecting blatant falsehoods, discrepancies and inconsistencies in the US Government’s treatment of 9/11 and its aftermath.

ZIONISM AND TREASON

The inescapable point isnt the 60,000 Americans killed or wounded in a war started out of treason or the world it threatens to destroy.  Americans have been looking away from these glaring realities the way they looked away from Vietnam.  Sabrosky leaves Israel and her American Jewish supporters who he sees as traitors with a warning:

If these Americans and those like them ever fully understand just how much of their suffering — and the suffering we have inflicted on others — is properly laid on the doorsteps of Israel and its advocates in America, they will sweep aside those in politics, the press and the pulpits alike whose lies and disloyalty brought this about and concealed it from them. They may well leave Israel looking like Carthage after the Romans finished with it. It will be Israel’s own great fault.

Do we take Sabrosky seriously because he is a Marine or a Jew?  Do we wonder why the things he says reach so few?  Is American in a shooting war where our biggest enemy sits behind us, killing us off, robbing us blind and whispering gently in our ears how much they love us?

It would seem so.


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174 Comments for “GORDON DUFF: SABROSKY INTERVIEW TIES ISRAEL TO 9/11”

  1. If you believe these consp. theories, you are mentally ill.

  2. Just listen to Dr. Sabrosky analyze the facts. His methodology teaches us to focus in on the unexplained. This man is a real patriot and he’s a real scholar. Nobody else would dare come out and state such a position. September 11 terror was the work of traitors inside the US system who abide by a foreign allegiance. That allegiance is to an international order controlled by macroeconomic bandwidth’s banking houses, the revolving door of the military industrial complex including its derivative corporate networks, and concentration of fiscal and military might along the lines of belief paradigm supremacy. Dr. Sabrosky is an American first and foremost. I enjoyed his approach to walking around the mind control master’s informational feed. The information from Veterans who share knowledge from personal experience is as priceless as the Veteran.

  3. I have invested over a hundred hours investigating the facts of 9-11. I came to the conclusion that Mossad was responsible for the attacks. It is so easy to see, all the evidence points to Israel. Many people have thought I was either crazy or anti-semite to even think that our friends Israel would do such a thing. Also the media has brainwashed most people into believing the official government report as fact when there are so many holes in it and so much evidence being hidden from us. Blame the media for not digging into the facts and questioning the 9-11 report. Of course the media is 99% zionist controlled so what should we expect from them. That statement is also considered to be anti-semetic and soon to be a hate-crime. I am thrilled to see that somebody with impeccable credentials who is also Jewish has reached the same conclusion as I did. All one needs to do is to check out the facts and Mossad is 100% guilty as charged.

  4. A film watched recently from Germany made in 1932 is a rare look at the Nazi opposition to the Jewish control over German society. Clearly anti-Semitic as it was, it brought up some important facts that lie at the roots of Talmudic Jewish indoctrination, which is not much different than Mullahs who preach terrorism tactics to illiterate followers, Hindu Guru’s that require their followers to give up everything to them, Fundamental Christians who preach for Israel instead of Christ, and atheists which preach a personal worship of self, instead of God.

    From the scrolls in Jerusalem:
    _________________________________________________________________________________
    “Praise to the Lord who has set apart the Holy and common nations, Israel and the other races. The heathens who do not keep your commandments you have made enemies to be wiped out. God’s anger is on them and he says, “Even the best among the heathens will I kill. There are none good among the people’s of the world, for they are all blasphemous, but the sons of Israel are all righteous.”

    “And the Lord told the Israelites, you have made me the one God of the world and I will make your people the only rulers of the world.”

    “Glory tot he Eternal One who reduces the enemies of your people, humbles them and wipes them out that the Earth may belong to you alone and your people.”
    _________________________________________________________________________________

    The film said that Jews did not work or produce goods but bartered and traded in money. It said, “Out of 1,000 workers, 2 were Jews, out of 100 State Professors 15 were Jews, out of 100 judges 23 were Jews, out of 100 lawyers 49 were Jews, out of 100 doctors 52 were Jews, out of 100 merchants 60 were Jews. The average wage of a German worker was 810 marks and the average wage of Jews was 10,000 marks. It also said that 1% of the worlds population of the Jews was responsible for 34% of the worlds dope peddlers, 47% of robberies, 47% of gambling, 82% of International Crime organizations, and 98% of dealers in prostitution.

    This was before the holocaust. It is important to know what these true figures are today and whether these figures are true or not.

    Hitler claimed he was forced into a war by inflation produced by the Jewish bankers and controllers of money and merchandise. We are now on the verge of an economic disaster and a loss of freedom, while watching Israel commit genocide against the Palestinians much like the Jewish Holocaust of Nazi Germany. The Internationals banks are now controlled by Jewish bankers mostly with China, which now has our industrial base and our national debt. Meanwhile, China controls most of Asia, supplying Israel with weapons, and engaging in massive cyber attacks against Western Societies as targets, acquiring all of the worlds most important information.

    It is time to look truthfully and technically at the root indoctrination and psychic driving techniques of mind control and indoctrination to determine who our friends are and why. It is as important as determining who our enemies are and why.

    Economics should not be the determining factor in relations, life should. Perhaps it is time to end private ownership of the Federal Reserve and take a look at the unfair trade practices and the long list of scientists and entrepreneurs dead of un-natural causes. It could be they deserve a war memorial instead of secrecy and obscurity.

    If we are in a state of siege, the people have a right to know. Slavery is underway and only the truth can set us free. For that we need real communications laws that do not hide perversion behind the falicy of privacy and disinformation behind secrecy law.

  5. With Army stuff like Sabrosky no wonder why the US army so dull and losing wars.

  6. So gee…why would Muslims be taking credit for what Israeli’s did?

    DUH?

    Idiots you are indeed….

    • I think they took credit after being water boarded many times. The other reports where they claimed credit were released by our government. Do you want to believe them. You are the idiot, check out the facts yourself instead of letting the zionist news tell you what to think.

  7. I’d like to point out that actions taken by the Israeli Likud Party may not speak for Israelis as a whole. We know that there are many powerful Israali right wingers conducting a whole lot of actions that the Israeli left would be horrified by.

    There’s a lot of American center/left that didn’t want anyone to think Dubya was speaking for them. Give Israelis the same chance to distance themselves from Likud Party outrages.

    Let’s be specific and point out which Israeli political groups we are challenging.

  8. Fear, hatred, sociopathy, aggression, the need to feel superior; much of it starts at birth for jewish boys:

    http://www.math.missouri.edu/~rich/MGM/primer.html

    The jews are under a terrible spell. An evil spirit that acts through them and against them. Unfortunately, it has infected the USA as well. But not europe, japan, china, latin america etc. We have the highest divorce rate in the industrialized world. Ever wonder why?

  9. Admiral Mullen seems to be a person of integrity and measured reponsibility.Twice now (Aug 2009, Feb 2010),he has gone to Israel mentioning the Liberty debacle of 1967 and telling them to behave.He told them in no uncertain terms that a repeat performance was not on.He has taken the initiative to have direct military communications with Iran to counter false flag attacks.

    There is a lot more at stake here than Israel’s super ego.Suicide should not be a shared experience.Let the fools,psychopaths and cowards driven by their obsessive compulsive disorder do it alone.

  10. By the Staff of American Free Press

    Former Italian President Francesco Cossiga, who revealed the existence of Operation Gladio, has told Italy’s oldest and most widely read newspaper that the 9-11 terrorist attacks were run by the CIA and Mossad, and that this was common knowledge among global intelligence agencies. In what translates awkwardly into English, Cossiga told the newspaper Corriere della Sera:

    “All the [intelligence services] of America and Europe…know well that the disastrous attack has been planned and realized from the Mossad, with the aid of the Zionist world in order to put under accusation the Arabic countries and in order to induce the western powers to take part … in Iraq [and] Afghanistan.”

    Cossiga was elected president of the Italian Senate in July 1983 before winning a landslide election to become president of the country in 1985, and he remained until 1992.

    Cossiga’s tendency to be outspoken upset the Italian political establishment, and he was forced to resign after revealing the existence of, and his part in setting up, Operation Gladio. This was a rogue intelligence network under NATO auspices that carried out bombings across Europe in the 1960s, 1970s and ’80s. Gladio’s specialty was to carry out what they termed “false flag” operations—terror attacks that were blamed on their domestic and geopolitical opposition.

    In March 2001, Gladio agent Vincenzo Vinciguerra stated, in sworn testimony, “You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple: to force … the public to turn to the state to ask for greater security.”

    Cossiga first expressed his doubts about 9-11 in 2001, and is quoted by 9-11 researcherWebster Tarpley saying “The mastermind of the attack must have been a sophisticated mind, provided with ample means not only to recruit fanatic kamikazes, but also highly specialized personnel. I add one thing: it could not be accomplished without infiltrations in the radar and
    flight security personnel.”

    Coming from a widely respected former head of state, Cossiga’s assertion that the 9-11 attacks were an inside job and that this is common knowledge among global intelligence agencies is illuminating. It is one more eye-opening confirmation that has not been mentioned by America’s propaganda machine in print or on TV. Nevertheless, because of his experience and status in the world, Cossiga cannot be discounted as a crackpot.

  11. Hey – there used to be 11 comments here.

    maybe – we’re soon winning.

  12. Scapegoat,I’ve studied it all.It all began in 1913 when President Woodrow Wilson let a group of private banksters create the US currency.These bansksters have helped to create and finance two world wars.They helped to create Hitler who murdered 6 million of their own people.Many Jews were comlicit in aiding the Nazis gas their own people.This deviant behaviour can be found across all racial boundaries.There is treachery and evil in all man kind.

    Some of the Jews today are no better than their Nazi masters.They want to subjugate the rest of the planet in a slavery that would have been a Nazi dream.

    Do you not see Scapegoat, that your hate is making you like the people whom you despise? This very reality has happened to some of the people of Israel and they have yet to realise it.

    So Scapegoat,it is not entirely a Jewish plot.We were complicit by our own greed and lack of due diligence.The travesty is that the real producers and creators of wealth have been betrayed. ie ordinary workers.

    If we lose this battle,there will be a lot more than technology/science at risk,there are the aspirations of a free will and spirit that technology can never replace.It will be a technological dark age devoid of any liberty or real creativity.

    Thanks Gordon for your re-assurance .It is good to know that the military will stick by the people who make the wheels turn.Let’s hope we live up to the courage and tenacity of those who fought past wars, especially WW2.This time we know who the real enemy is.It is within our own midst.Greed and power spurred on by our own pathetic insecurity.

    • The trick of the PSYCHOPATHS trade is to make us believe that evil comes from others… deep article linked…

      http://www.sott.net/articles/show/148141-The-Trick-of-the-Psychopath-s-Trade-Make-Us-Believe-that-Evil-Comes-from-Others

    • Jesse Canaan Greene

      In my opinion, it goes back a lot further than that Ross.. if you ask me it goes back to when the roman ‘catholic’ jewish/christian/pagan/muslim royal families decided make the roman empire ‘disappear’ and to then, through secrecy and hierarchical secret societies, work together to divide the people and nations against each other while they, behind the scenes, worked to unite their fortunes and their family bloodlines.. and the success of 1933 would have never been possible if the germanic branches “thule society” hadn’t set up shop via skull and bones at yale in 1832..

      • Jesse ,you are right to a degree but these people of evil intent would never have reached this pinnacle without the power and creativity of the US people.They would have been relegated to Europe and destroyed their civilisations.

        It is heartening to see that so many people are now looking at the fundamental causes of the mire in which we now find ourselves embroiled in,instead of blaming totally external forces.

        I think that when many realise that these psychopaths will lead them down to the path of oblivian,they will jump ships,since no amount of money/power compensates for death and annihilation of civilation,except in the eyes of mentally derranged.

        We are making progress, but will it be in time to stop the lunatics who see their window of opportunity rapidly closing? The rising awareness has caught them off guard.They are now pressed to do more stupid desperate things.

  13. What I’d like to know Gordon,is how extensive is this awareness & support from the military is on subjects like 911? While Sabrovsky implies that is extensive,we do not know where the key players stand,since many have been appointed by the likes of Rahm Emanuel.

    Sabrovsky could be overplaying his hand and putting the truth movement in peril.

    In reality none of this was really well thought out.US manufacturing has been sent to China,hence we have loss of jobs and huge debt by most Western economies.This coupled with WFC is destroying our economies.China gets 12% of it’s oil from Iran and another 30% from the rest of the Middle East + a bit from Africa.

    The USA is surrounding China/Russia Militarily and forcing an alliance that works against our security interests.

    Russia has warned USA not to invade Iran.China also would not be happy since their energy security would be threatened.We cannot afford a war with China since they make most our consumerables.A war in the Middle East will see fuel prices skyrocket and hardship on a massive scale.

    We have all these greedy interest groups like arms manufacturers, oil producers,and Banks loan money to Govts for weapons, unable to see the larger picture.Israel is painting itself into a corner and may just lose any sense of judgement.

    It is really a scenario for chaos and destruction.This is why we need people of good judgement and integrity.I cannot see either of the leaders of the Democrats or Republicians having any such qualities since they are corrupted by the system.They see their self interest as being paramount.

    When the proverbial hits the fan,we need a group who can take control and restore order.Someone has to sit these fools down and spell out the reality.Sharing a nuke shelter with cockroaches is cold comfort for any survivor.

    • “In reality none of this was really well thought out.US manufacturing has been sent to China,hence we have loss of jobs and huge debt by most Western economies.This coupled with WFC is destroying our economies.China gets 12% of it’s oil from Iran and another 30% from the rest of the Middle East + a bit from Africa.”

      It just depends on that one little word ‘we’. The debt is on white countries thus ruining them (plus the projected 2 trillion euros of wealth transfer to for example China in the form of CO2-taxes). ‘We’ should always be biological. The change from flesh and blood nationality to judicial paper nationality has gotten us to this point.

      Research the opening of China trade. I assume you all have already researched who created the financial instruments wich are reason for the current collapse? Primary reason is of course the entire system of FED. One notable is jewish Maurice Greenberg of AIG, who was involved also in China-trade. After this meltdown AIG headed for chinese markets. Because of their work in transfering US industries to China AIG got special status from the chinese in one of the trade agreements. Check it out. You might also want to look into jewish spies and transfer of your military technology to China. List of jewish spies starting from the communist period are very easy to aquire. Use your internet.

      I suggest you read them conspiratorial and anti-semitic books on US support to Mao and Soviet Union.

      It’s stuupid sportswatching whites doing the fighting and dieing, while the big jews are already prepping their relocation to Asia and Australia.

      “The USA is surrounding China/Russia Militarily and forcing an alliance that works against our security interests.”

      Halfjewish Obama called jewish Zbiegniew Brzezinski his mentor. He has written couple of books. And while you are at it, look who funds all those color revolution; isn’t it jewish George Soros, the ambassador of democracy?

      “We cannot afford a war with China since they make most our consumerables.A war in the Middle East will see fuel prices skyrocket and hardship on a massive scale.”

      Stop consuming useless crap and stop living in virtualworlds created by media. That’s why you get deceived years in a row. Your economy is imploding, you are constantly engaged in useless wars and jews have put a negro as your presidents. Isn’t it about time for white americans to stop watching childish gaynegrosports and mindless tv-shows spewing racemixing-propaganda?

      “Israel is painting itself into a corner and may just lose any sense of judgement.”

      They never had any. Nucleardestruction of Israel and millions of jews dissappearing in burnt offering to feed the desertdemon they worship is the grand dream of the dear rabbis. That should arouse another round of sympathy for the jewish people.

      • “Scapegoat”
        Consider using a real identity. However, thank you for your substantive response which is wildly unsubstantiated and horribly racist but also honest and expressive of beliefs many jews hold. It is better to get all this out. Yes, Jews aren’t the only idiots. Your comment is very worthy of discussion and generally helpful. It is a great basis for debate.
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        • Gordon,

          All societal entropy we see today is really a backdrop and a direct consequence of the loss of civilizational confidence and the looming passing away of European Man. Massive Jewish complicity in that, the result of ethnic aggression on their part to subvert to dominate host societies, is simply undeniable. I encourage you to peruse Kevin MacDonald’s trilogy on Judaism and the Jewish people, examined from the perspective of evolutionary psychology.

          And no, it is not “racism” to love one’s own people, and to wish them to live and not die. In fact, it is the fulfillment of life’s highest interest – the continuation of our very being, our genetic continuity, through time.

      • To think we buy bullets at the same Gander Mountain.
        g

        • How do you account for a 9/11 Commission report with hundreds of pages that evaluated over a million pages of documents? Why do you think you are right and they are wrong? Do you really believe that a cabal of Jews runs the US government to that degree?

          A few paragraphs should suffice:

          Our mandate was sweeping. The law directed us to investigate “facts and circumstances relating to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001,” including those relating to intelligence agencies, law enforcement agencies, diplomacy, immigration issues and border control, the flow of assets to terrorist organizations, commercial aviation, the role of congressional oversight and resource allocation, and other areas determined relevant by the Commission.

          In pursuing our mandate, we have reviewed more than 2.5 million pages of documents and interviewed more than 1,200 individuals in ten countries. This included nearly every senior official from the current and previous administrations who had responsibility for topics covered in our mandate.

          We have sought to be independent, impartial, thorough, and nonpartisan. From the outset, we have been committed to share as much of our investigation as we can with the American people. To that end, we held 19 days of hearings and took public testimony from 160 witnesses.

          Our aim has not been to assign individual blame. Our aim has been to provide the fullest possible account of the events surrounding 9/11 and to identify lessons learned.

          We learned about an enemy who is sophisticated, patient, disciplined, and lethal. The enemy rallies broad support in the Arab and Muslim world by demanding redress of political grievances, but its hostility toward us and our values is limitless. Its purpose is to rid the world of religious and political pluralism, the plebiscite, and equal rights for women. It makes no distinction between military and civilian targets. Collateral damage is not in its lexicon.

          http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report_Pref.htm

          Do you really believe a conspiracy of the magnitude you posit is possible?

          • John,
            You seem to be utterly oblivious to years of news.
            g

          • Jesse Canaan Greene

            John,

            The MAJORITY of the people on the 9/11 commission have since come out saying that the U.S. Government INTENTIONALLY blocked a thorough and complete investigation. No differently than the Federally funded, Bush appointed N.I.S.T. these organizations make claims of exhaustive research to levels that you would never attempt to take on yourself.. JUST SO YOU DONT DO ANY RESEARCH OF YOUR OWN.. its not about quantity.. its about QUALITY of research. 10,000 pages of BS that never answers KEY & CRITICAL questions is NOT exhaustive research AT ALL.

            “We learned about an enemy who is sophisticated, patient, disciplined, and lethal. The enemy rallies broad support in the Arab and Muslim world by demanding redress of political grievances, but its hostility toward us and our values is limitless. Its purpose is to rid the world of religious and political pluralism, the plebiscite, and equal rights for women. It makes no distinction between military and civilian targets. Collateral damage is not in its lexicon.”

            This says nothing of who that enemy is.. as far as Im concerned its an exact description of the CIA, the Israeli army the Project for a New American Century and the NEW WORLD ORDER itself!

          • 9/11 Commission Chairs and vice chair Kean and Hamilton said in their book Without President the 9/11 Commision was set up to fail.

            The person most likely responsible for for setting up the 9/11 Commission to fail was Phillip Zelikow. The commission was set up like a corporation, and Zelikow actually did the day-to-day management. The Commission was equivalant of Zelicow’s Board of Directors. Zelikow set the daily agenda, not the commissioners.

            http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Philip_D._Zelikow

            “Philip D. Zelikow is Executive Director of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, otherwise known as the 9-11 Commission.

            * Member, Global Development Program Advisory Panel, Gates Foundation [1]
            * Advisory Board, America Abroad Media

            There’s a raft of evidence to suggest that Zelikow has personal, professional and political reasons not to see the commission hold Rice and other Bush officials accountable for pre-9/11 failings, and may be the de facto swing vote for Republicans on the panel.[1] Here are just a few of them:

            * He and Rice worked closely together in the first Bush White House as aides to former National Security Adviser Brent Scowcroft. Zelikow was director of European security affairs, and Rice was senior director of Soviet and East European affairs, as well as special assistant to the president. Rice reportedly hired Zelikow. Both started in 1989 and left in 1991.

            * A few years after leaving the White House, Zelikow and Rice wrote a book together called, “Germany Unified and Europe Transformed: A Study in Statecraft.”

            * The two associated again when Zelikow directed the Aspen Strategy Group [2], a foreign-policy strategy body co-chaired by Rice’s mentor Scowcroft. Rice, along with Dick Cheney and Paul Wolfowitz, were members.

            * Zelikow also directed the Markle Foundation’s Task Force on National Security in the Information Age [3]under co-chairman James Barksdale, a Bush adviser and major Bush-Cheney donor. A 9/11 commissioner, Republican Sen. Slade Gorton, also served with Zelikow on the task force. (Interestingly, the pair serves together on yet another panel – The National Commission on Federal Election Reform – with Gorton acting as vice-chairman and Zelikow as executive director.)

            * After the 2000 election, Zelikow and Rice were reunited when George W. Bush named him to his transition team for the National Security Council. Rice reportedly asked Zelikow to help organize the NSC under the Scowcroft model, which was insular and steeped in Cold War worldview.

            * Former White House terrorism czar Richard Clarke says he briefed not only Rice and Hadley, but also Zelikow about the growing al-Qaida threat during the transition period. Zelikow sat in on the briefings, he says.

            * A month after the 9/11 al-Qaida attacks, President Bush appointed Zelikow to the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, which is chaired by Scowcroft.

            * Zelikow’s regular job, the one he’ll return to after the commission releases it final report in late July, is director of the Miller Center of Public Affairs at the University of Virginia. The center is dedicated to the study of the presidency, and maintains contact with the Bush White House, which fought the creation of the commission.

            Kristen Breitweiser, a 9/11 widow, insists Zelikow has a “clear conflict of interest.” And she suspects he is in touch with Bush’s political adviser, Rove, which she says would explain why the White House granted him, along with just one other commission official, the greatest access to the intelligence briefing Bush got a month before the 9/11 suicide hijackings.

          • Based on overwhelming evidence, and like 1000s and 1000s of my friends and acquaintances, to answer your question, let me say that I’ve read the NIST report and the library actually fined me for having it out beyond the due date, I’ve accessed 1000s of web pages, 1000s of images and 100s of videos and I’ve read 2 dozen books. I’ve studied this subject for almost 10 years. I’m a retired publisher and own all of my time and reading is my hobby. I read for several hours every day.

            “Do you really believe a conspiracy of the magnitude you posit is possible?”

            YES

    • Ross,
      Figure I know enough to be dangerous and keep my mouth shut.
      g

    • Dr. Sabrosky overplaying his hand? The good professor hasn’t really said anything beyond a general theory. And that’s because he’s not going to say anything that will jeopardize American interests. As far as the truth movement is concerned, it has no power to begin with. It’s only a punching bag designed for show where bits and pieces of the truth are woven with falsehoods.

      I’ll bet he wanted to unnerve certain elements for reasons beyond our understanding. I’m more interested in understanding why he chose the USS Liberty forum to offer sound bytes.

      We’re talking about an American Veteran who served in Vietnam. His scars run deep as I know mine run even deeper.

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