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By: Khalil Nouri

Khalil Nouri — Fri, 23 Apr 2010 02:54:13 +0000

Thanks Zahir;

This upcoming PEACE Loya Jirga in Afghanistan is a make or break for Karzai. If he is able to unite the nation and peel away the insurgents from their hardcore elements then he will be a winner, else…….

In addition, the Marja operation is far from its goals as it was planned for a functional or an indispensible “government in the box”. So far, it has been a futile effort, and also Kandahar operation is in stall and not going to take place.

Therefore, Afghanistan’s leadership will be in further problems and serious crisis, which obviously will be a major impact to US / NATO operations, reconstruction and an intolerable situation for another 5 years of Karzai’s leadership.

In that regards, if Mr. Karzai is to be replaced by any in-line technocrats, it will be back to square one, because none will have tribal backing. Including Jalali, Khalilzad and so on…

For one to lead Afghanistan he does not have to be a rocket scientist per say, but indeed with high marks for knitting this socially fragile and broken country in a solid unity with the tribal backings.
I believe no one has this capability, except for a couple of people that I would rather give out their names in private.

I therefore think that US must reassess its position in the near future before it will be cought with surpise.

This only my view.

By: Zahir

Zahir — Thu, 22 Apr 2010 22:32:55 +0000

Loya Jirgas works only if the tribal leaders accept the central government and respect the leader, and then they come to an agreement among eachothers and the government. This is how it worked in the past, and especially at the time when the last king Zahir Shah ruled his peaceful reign in Afghanistan for 43 years.
At the moment not all the tribes in Afghanistan respect Karzai as a leader( I leave what the US, and western world think about Karzai, alone) and accept them as a president, on top of that Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan have their own agenad of Whahabiism, and Iran has it’s own agenda of disrupting the peace in Afghanistan by helping talibans financially, and give them arms to fight US, and coalition forces,so with all these foreign influence and corruptions the tribes have been separated for a long time, in order to unite them, you need a great leader which we don’t have. This is not the first Jirga, since 2001, and it won’t be the last one, they will come together for a few days and they’ll leave again, and nothing significatly would be changed, unless you making them an offer they cannot refuse.

By: Stit Kepling

Stit Kepling — Thu, 22 Apr 2010 06:21:15 +0000

to Hikerman and other critics,

President Karzai has been working for peace since he was arrested for trying to stop the infighting that occured after the Soviets left in 1994. Most of the years the Taliban refused to negotiate, until some recent changes, Google, “Did CIA Torture Victim Once Rescue Hamid Karzai?” and “Western Peace Activists Ignore Real Afghan Peace Efforts”

By: Hikerman

Hikerman — Thu, 22 Apr 2010 06:03:58 +0000

When was the last time America worked with a corrupt Government and lost much of our military to death and carnage? Oh I don’t know… Maybe south Vietnam?

By: Bill Ford

Bill Ford — Thu, 22 Apr 2010 05:58:57 +0000

Brilliant analysis and analogy! thank you Khalil! Pakistan always play a diabolical role in Afghanistan. Pakistan idea of acting as a mediating agent in Afghanistan is flawed as it will escalate tensions in south Asia rather than reaching any consensus .it is a political act of undermining India’s interest in Afghanistan.the idea of “jirga”will favour India and Afghanistan and kept out Pakistan from the race of reconciliation. Let’s hope this tribal council meeting will succeed and put end to Afghan war

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By: Khalil Nouri

Khalil Nouri — Thu, 22 Apr 2010 01:04:44 +0000

Official: Afghanistan “peace jirga” delayed for up to 3 weeks

Apr 21, 2010, 15:24 GMT

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/southasia/news/article_1549881.php/Official-Afghanistan-peace-jirga-delayed-for-up-to-3-weeks

By: Khalil Nouri

Khalil Nouri — Wed, 21 Apr 2010 16:25:34 +0000

Very well said Bill,

But one must bear in mind that the centuries old tribal structure cannot be changed overnight. It is very hard to do so.

The same POWWOW was done when the Russians pulled out from Afghanistan. At least the Russians thought the presence of foreign troops will not make this Jirga suffice enough for positive results .. Here it is the opposite we have over 126 thousand NATO troops and still an outlook for positive results.

I believe it is a wish dream..

By: Bill Smitts

Bill Smitts — Wed, 21 Apr 2010 16:05:35 +0000

Off the top of my head is Khalil is look at the old American west and the subjugation of the Indian. Washington DC was always dressing Indians at a DC POWWOW up in European cloths and parading them around making them look civilized. My suspicion this is happening now with your POWWOW.

These leaders tribal as you say need to understand the basics of global politics, and they need to spend some energy on how to adjust their politics where it will not conflict with their historical tribal law.

The lesson is if they do not understand this they will always be at the mercy of the west’s Christians and Jews, and Indian’s Hindu, and passive marginalized turn coat Muslims.

This is only an observation Khalil.

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