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Arizona Gov. Signs Bill Targeting Ethnic Studies, Goes ‘Old South’

 Jan Brewer Nazi Gestapo

Nein! No Mexican-American studies program

 

By JONATHAN J. COOPER

PHOENIX – Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer has signed a bill targeting a school district’s ethnic studies program, hours after a report by United Nations human rights experts condemned the measure.

State schools chief Tom Horne, who has pushed the bill for years, said he believes the Tucson school district’s Mexican-American studies program teaches Latino students that they are oppressed by white people.

Public schools should not be encouraging students to resent a particular race, he said.

“It’s just like the old South, and it’s long past time that we prohibited it,” Horne said.

Brewer’s signature on the bill Tuesday comes less than a month after she signed the nation’s toughest crackdown on illegal immigration — a move that ignited international backlash amid charges the measure would encourage racial profiling of Hispanics. The governor has said profiling will not be tolerated.

The measure signed Tuesday prohibits classes that advocate ethnic solidarity, that are designed primarily for students of a particular race or that promote resentment toward a certain ethnic group.

The Tucson Unified School District program offers specialized courses in African-American, Mexican-American and Native-American studies that focus on history and literature and include information about the influence of a particular ethnic group.

For example, in the Mexican-American Studies program, an American history course explores the role of Hispanics in the Vietnam War, and a literature course emphasizes Latino authors.

Horne, a Republican running for attorney general, said the program promotes “ethnic chauvinism” and racial resentment toward whites while segregating students by race. He’s been trying to restrict it ever since he learned that Hispanic civil rights activist Dolores Huerta told students in 2006 that “Republicans hate Latinos.”

District officials said the program doesn’t promote resentment, and they believe it would comply with the new law.

The measure doesn’t prohibit classes that teach about the history of a particular ethnic group, as long as the course is open to all students and doesn’t promote ethnic solidarity or resentment.

About 1,500 students at six high schools are enrolled in the Tucson district’s program. Elementary and middle school students also are exposed to the ethnic studies curriculum. The district is 56 percent Hispanic, with nearly 31,000 Latino students.

Sean Arce, director of the district’s Mexican-American Studies program, said last month that students perform better in school if they see in the curriculum people who look like them.

“It’s a highly engaging program that we have, and it’s unfortunate that the state Legislature would go so far as to censor these classes,” he said.

Six UN human rights experts released a statement earlier Tuesday saying all people have the right to learn about their own cultural and linguistic heritage, they said.

Brewer spokesman Paul Senseman didn’t directly address the UN criticism, but said Brewer supports the bill’s goal.

“The governor believes … public school students should be taught to treat and value each other as individuals and not be taught to resent or hate other races or classes of people,” Senseman said.

Arce could not immediately be reached after Brewer signed the bill late Tuesday.

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55 Comments for “Arizona Gov. Signs Bill Targeting Ethnic Studies, Goes ‘Old South’”

  1. Question, where the hell was the Anti-Defamtion League a few weeks ago when the verminst jackasses on the left wing compared the bill in Arizona to nazism? Til this day the ADL hasn’t come out and condemn the comments against the Arizona immigration bill, there no different the politicans from both parties.

    To all of you uneducated leftist, for you comparing that bill to the holocaust is completely obsurd and bulls**t! First off, there are NO death camps in this country nor there aren’t any being built right now (thank god for that), secondly, the illegals in Arizona have to show their document papers to prove if there here legally or not, third the bill in Arizona mimics US Laws. So if you dumbass left wingers don’t like the law in our country, get the hell out of my beautiful country and move to any anarchist country in the world, you leftist/progresstards are a complete embarrassment to this country!

    “A nation is identified by it’s borders, language & culture!”

    • When I was a kid on the West Coast, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt — a committed left wing liberal, removed from their property and INTERNED 200,000 Japanese descended Americans in “internment” camps. Then, Democrat Harry Truman dropped two atomic bombs on Japan. Two liberal fascist Democrats, Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson fueled the Viet Nam conflict.

      Now you insane liberals, including President Obummer, are promoting division amongst people in an effort to gain a few votes in November. You all should be ashamed, including you Mike. You guys would rather destroy the country than be wrong. Focus on where the real problem is, the problem Obummer and his crew are trying hide, the letting the financial system escape unscathed at we the taxpayers, AND VETERANS, expense.

      Tom – Texas Vet

      • Tom, I noticed you omitted Paulson and George W. Bush from your “blame list” on the economy. Was that an oversight? Or do you absolve the past administration of any responsibility for the mess made on their watch?

        • Punish Right wing Americans Punish do not ponder what they think before they say it. They are so convinced they are correct they just say it. This new law in Arizona is racist at best.

          AS for Dillman the Texas veteran he is a self righteous Texan who still thinks the people who died at the Alamo were heroes and does not understand the Alamo story is only a myth made up to justify killing Mexicans. First you have to make some one you want to kill unhuman. Then kill them and make them a hero.

          • To people who know history Mexicans who fought to keep Texas will always be heroes.

          • As you lefties like to say “WE WON” isn’t that the name of the game. Nancy Pelosie has it down perfect.

    • We “leftist liberals” support rule of the and frankly demand our federal government enforce the law. What we object to is having American Citizens asked for their “papers”. If you disagree, that is your right.

      Also, know that we are NOT for undocumented workers nor are we for breaking the law.

      Personally, I admire the Gov. Brewer for bringing this issue to the attention of the populace. It truly needs the brightest light shined on it. However, its’ implementation and execution was poorly thought out and sorely misguided. Sadly, this faux-paux will cost the good people of Arizona big time and that’s NOT shrewd. It’s foolish.

      Under GOP Reagan he granted amnesty and looked the other way. Under GOP Bush I, he looked the way. Under Democrat Bill Clinton, he looked the other way. Under GOP Bush II, guess what? He looked the other way! Under Democrat Obama, the book is not completed yet!

      This is an American problem, not a GOP or Democrat problem. And when you aim only at Democrats, you diminish your argument for it sounds like aim only when convenient.

      I think we agree in principle but disagree on how to resolve it. This is our problem now….we, all Americans, need to resolve it!

      • your first four sentences sink the rest of your arguement. it is indeed about the rule of law. and it is about ILLEGAL immigration. plain and simple. read the damned law. not one thing wrong with or about it.

    • ADL is for Zionist Jews and has nothing for anyone else.
      The poor persecuted Jew/Hebrew are still being attacked, didn’t/don’t you know?
      Political Zionist Jews are THE problem, and there are very few of them…BUT, all are in position to cause havoc in world society.
      Rothschild is one example. As stated on one site, ‘they’ planned the fall of the euro, and several associated countries outside Greece. The rest of the PIGS…
      If ya like I can offer you a tour of some of those imaginary death camps…hmmm?
      I played at their locations when I was a kid, know the areas well.
      If of course you might be willing to put your ‘a’ where your mouth is…
      Then too, you’re probably one of the many paid hacks who attempt take downs of sites like these, AND cause trouble at rallies.
      Why worry? All the advertising on the net has brought most of the plans out in the open…and it just don’t matter. Large ego in there somewhere.
      Sure you don’t work for that southern preposterous lies center?
      Janet ain’t directin ya-all is she?
      Conspiracy theories don’t exist, right?
      Then the one about our government being the largest drug pushers on the planet ain’t real either?
      McCrystal was just outed by his own word in Veterans News Daily that the gov just had to fly some $65 Billion worth of Heroin out of Iraq…
      Just a figment of our imagination…?
      Rothschild owns the reserve banks.
      What part of true don’t you understand?
      The in charge/owners no longer care if anyone knows or what they know. This should be a major red flag to us all…and begs the question, now what?
      Look up into the northwest sky just about dusk. See that white spot? It ain’t supposed to be there. Planet sized and pulses like a planet. Some say it is a comet…so where is the tail? If it’s heading right at us you can’t see the tail…
      Guess 2012 is a little early?
      OOOOOOOOEEEEEEE!
      The Sky is falling! Time ta run around naked and screeching!!!
      Somebody says and somebody goes off about it.
      I’m glad to hear from you!
      I for one am willing to die to preserve the privilege!
      Already fought in nam…
      Now I get to cause ulcers in people who can’t handle the truth!
      hehehehehehehehehe
      An WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO!
      Izzat your blood pressure I hear risin?
      Hope so.
      Say anything you like, it is called freedom of speech.
      Are we havin fun yet?
      The reality I live in is of the real sort, kind of like a never ending nightmare where something nasty is coming down a hallway. You are standing at the end after running there. This dark shape just keeps slowly coming, putting out the lights just before you can see its face…coming after you.
      Pleasant dreams all ya-all…
      You see, I have already battled this one…and it lost, badly.
      A group came after my wife in her dreams. So I just showed up, telling them no. They left in a hurry after I hit a few of them by swinging one of them like a baseball bat…they ain’t been back either.
      I’m in service to The Creator.
      So bring it on, I’m ready and waiting.

      • Please make the distinction between “Real Jews” and the Khazars who are the real problem. Those that infest the governement at every level are Khazars and not the real sephardic Jews that are a great people. In fact, they are in as much danger from the Khazars as we are. That is proved by their 40% drop in sperm count in under 10 years which if it continues at that pace may result in full genocide.

        Its the khazars that must be rooted out from all societies and sent to england to reside with Rothschild, THEIR KIND AS THEY CALL HIM, and to be the bain on the Queen that she asked for. Its because of her and her families work and the rest of royalty in Europe that these Khazars are now ready to take over the world and when they are done with us, they will turn on that very royalty that gave them the opportunity to do what they are currently doing. I jsut want to live long enough to see them do it to the royalty and watch their faces as they face the guillotine gotten ready for them by their minions who will usurp them in the end. Justice will prevail at least for some of the evil ones.

  2. Another stupid article. Mexico’s illegal alien laws are much tougher than Arizona’s, where’s the NAZI story about Mexico? Who gives a damn what the United Nations thinks? The UN is corrupt, oil for food, child prostitution rings, sucking up to dictators, that’s just a start.

    • Another STUPID ARTICLE is RIGHT!!!
      Which of the two is the US more addicted to the cheap labor from Illegal immigrates coming to the US or the the Illegal drugs coming to the US?

      • The short answer is BOTH! We need to go after employers in the biggest way possible and stop the hiring of undocumented workers. In addition, we need worker permits offered to those companies that really need workers from abroad. As for the drug addiction problem, we need a WAR against our own culture. The drug problem is 100% ours. We need to stop blaming the suppliers for our addiction and take PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for our tribe.

        • JP – The drug problem is NOT 100% ours. 50% yes. But hand the other 50% to where it belongs, South of the Border!

          T. Texas Vet

          • The workers in producer states in Mexico, Central and South America do NOT even touch the stuff. To them, it’s just a job. If someone wants to pay them $ 2 a lb for weed and only 25 cents a pound for corn, they, like we would simply grow what pays them more. Are these peasants really to blame for this for our drug problem? I do NOT hold them responsible at all! Now, maybe their governments can help provide their society incentive to NOT grow weed but since they are net exporters and not users, they don’t care. Why should they? The USA is the addict, not them! For me, it’s our culture that is ill. It starts with us and ends with us. We are the users. The UN came out today saying Canada and the USA are the number users of marijuana in the world with 1 out of 10 using. We are the problem and we are the solution!

          • You mean Washington DC, don’t you? That is where the drug problem is. 50% is the Bush mafia and now the Obama mafia as he is continuing protecting the drug growing in Afghanistan. The Chinese know exactly what the illegal drugs do to a population if allowed in, and thus its a death penalty in China for dealers to sell illegal drugs to anyone.

            CIA planes were used to ship the drugs into this country, our illustrious big wall street banekers make billions off of the money laundering, and the bush mafia uses the profits for their black ops under the control of Mossad, so where is south of the border involved in this. Its jsut a drop in a global bucket. LOL Even Russia is beginning to have problems and said so and wants the afghan poppie fields destroyed. NO SUPPLY, NO CUSTOMERS. HELLO, one half of the problem being destroyed solves the other half of the problem.

  3. The primary goal of the Frankfurt School was to translate Marxism from economic terms into cultural terms. It would provide the ideas on which to base a new political theory of revoltuion based on culture, harnessing new oppressed groups for the faithless proletariat. Smashing religion, morals, It would also build a constituency among academics, who could build careers studying and writing about the new oppression.

    Toward this end, Marcuse-who favored polymorphous perversion-expanded the ranks of Gramsci’s new proletariat by including homosexuals, lesbians, and transsexuals. Into this was spliced Lukacs radical sex education and cultural terrorism tactics. Gramsci’s ‘long march’ was added to the mix, and then all of this was wedded to Freudian psychoanalysis and psychological conditioning techniques. The end product was Cultural Marxism, now known in the West as multiculturalism.

    Additional intellectual firepower was required: a theory to pathologize what was to be destroyed. In 1950, the Frankfurt School augmented Cultural Marxism with Theodor Adorno’s idea of the ‘authoritarian personality.’ This concept is premised on the notion that Christianity, capitalism, and the traditional family create a character prone to racism and fascism. Thus, anyone who upholds America’s traditional moral values and institutions is both racist and fascist. Children raised by traditional values parents, we are told to believe, will almost certainly become racists and fascists. By extension, if fascism and racism are endemic to America’s traditional culture, then everyone raised in the traditions of God, family, patriotism, gun ownership, or free markets is in need of psychological help.

    Separately, two Marxist theorists-Antonio Gramsci of Italy and Georg Lukacs of Hungary-concluded that the Christianized West was the obstacle standing in the way of a communist new world order. The West would have to be conquered first.

    Gramsci posited that because Christianity had been dominant in the West for over 2000 years, not only was it fused with Western civilization, but it had corrupted the workers class. The West would have to be de-Christianized, said Gramsci, by means of a “long march through the culture.” Additionally, a new proletariat must be created. In his “Prison Notebooks,” he suggested that the new proletariat be comprised of many criminals, women, and racial minorities.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/02/cultural_marxism.html

    Congrats, Mr. Leon, you’ve been brainwashed, back to Marxist University you go!

    • I prefer the term militant, pro-veteran anarcho-syndicalist, but somehow I think you’re missing the point.

    • By the way, were you in my contemporary political theory course at UW-Madison?

      We did cover some aspects of Gramsci and Lukacs.

      • Mike — I think you misused the word “contemporary”. Perhaps you meant “passe?” As you can see, I have your back, man. :-)

        T

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  5. Seriously fellas,

    I mean, I generally like the information that VT puts out. I’m even grateful for much of it. But, stooping to the level of “Tea Party/Bagger” Rush Limbaugh-like antics is acerebral not to mention is vitriolic rubbish.

    Placing swastikas on the AZ governor’s lapels is as offensive as what the ultra-right wing does to images of President Obama.

    Let’s stop with childishness and idiocy.

    • Luis, I think the graphic lends itself well the issue. Clearly it’s meant to provoke thought and I would say it was quite effective. Consider the quality of the discourse herein, quite impressive! Makes one proud to live in a open society!

      • JP — contrary to the liberal biased opionettes, unfairly and unreasonably plastering the swastika on the Governor’s lapel only serves to piss people like me (and many others) off. Maybe you should consider putting a hammer and sick behind some VT Journalettes’ bylines?

        Tom Texas Vet

    • And the political anti-semitic cartoonist? Not offenisve?

  6. Lawrence A Dickerson

    Let’s see,AZ passes a law that enforces immigration laws within the state and insures that those same laws don’t allow for racism and racial profiling.Veterans Today labels that as equivalent to the Nazi doctrine.

    On the other hand I constantly read what is supposed to be journalism anti zion rhetoric and that is purely kosher.You can knock me over with a two by four because I honestly believe the roles are switched.

  7. This site just showed it’s colors with this article. Welcome to my SPAM inbox.

  8. Simon Alvarado

    As people we are missing the point:

    In Germany they first came for the Communists,
    and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist.

    Then they came for the Jews,
    and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew.

    Then they came for the trade unionists,
    and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Catholics,
    and I didn’t speak up because I was a Protestant.

    Then they came for me —
    and by that ime no one was left to speak up.

    Pastor Martin Niemöller

    It is about the loss of freedom as we know it and the right to be who we are, or whatever we want to be. In the battlefield as I was laying down on the jungle ground with bullet wounds there was no one asking if I was an America because I was wearing an American uniform. As Americans let us not condemn anyone who does not look or act like everybody else. At least I think that was the reason I was fighting in Vietnam.

    • AmericanValues

      Simon, you were fighting against Communism in Vietnam. Read “Kiss the Boys Goodbye” authored by Monika Jensen-Stevenson and William Stevenson.

      • Simon Alvarado

        I agree, but it was about fighting them in their soil. Somehow, the rubber corporation got involved and it became more of a politician issue. Kennedy did not want us to be enslaved by the communist where we would lose our freedom. It was a fight to claim our rights to live free.

        • AmericanValues

          Simon, in simplistic terms; the “monied interests” were involved and furthered their communist agenda by trafficking drugs and arms; this recurring pattern is discussed in Gordon Duff’s post, “Rats in Wolves Clothing”. Same M.O. Kennedy was murdered by the “monied interests”. Kennedy’s desire to abolish the Federal Reserve, speaks volumes about Kennedy not wanting us to be enslaved.

    • Lawrence A Dickerson

      What freedoms have illegal immigrants lost?They have no rights in this country,the good old USA.They are here as lawbreakers the moment they crossed that border illegally.If one wants to work in trhis country,then apply for and receive a legitimate work visa.

      I’ll bet Freeman is a Viet Nam vet and it sounds like he is still smoking the ganja

  9. AmericanValues

    Google Russian Psychopolitcs…get into the mind of THE REAL ENEMY

  10. I have to say something here…first I’m really disappointed VT isn’t supporting AZ…it’s the same law as the federal law..the only difference is it’s being enforced..and it’s working…jobs are opening up for Americans and hostile crowds (yes Mexicans- demanding their “rights”) are diminishing. After watching a video recently of illegal Mexican citizen children being picked up at the border and bused to American schools, at U.S. taxpayer expense, I think Governor Brewer is due all the support we as Americans can give her and removing inflammatory curriculum is another step in restoring American constitutional rights, and maybe even save in the “adult evening classes” provided again by taxpayer programs. If they want to become American citizens make them do it right…

    • John P. Allen, General Manager

      We strongly support enforcement of Federal Law. We do NOT support State or Federal law enforcement asking American Citizens for their papers unless they are crossing borders. I hope that clarifies our position.

      • John — Have you ever been stopped for, god forbid, a speeding ticket? In every State I’ve lived in, you have to show your license and proof of insurance. It only bothers me if I can’t talk my way out of the ticket.
        ______
        Clearly you don’t understand that Arizona and other states have a serious problem. Not just border states. I saw the Governor of Pennsylvania complaining about his States problem with the costs of supporting to a great extent, 130,000 illegal immigrants. I could go on and on, but I doubt you care.
        The reason I doubt you care, is the far left—a distinct minoritiy in this country—only wants to care about laws that support their ideology.
        ______
        The problem is, quite frankly, that the Federal Government is NOT doing their job and haven’t for decades. Further, under the 10th Amendment, the States have the right to protect themselves if the Federeal Government doesn’t act.
        ______
        On the other hand, in support of the argument in the above post, very few people want chip implants, etc. etc.

        Tom — Texas Grunt.

  11. How in the world could John Mccain allow this to happen; unless, this also shows his true colors. regardless how one feels about Nazi era fascism, however, something has to be done; they’re being over run down there on a daily basis. Americans cannot just put their heads in the sand on this one. As long as the employers of these people are not being held accountable, who is to step up in defense of getting the work they perform done; it’s not going to do itself. The next trip to the store or super market, and you find yourself in the produce section, remember; it didn’t pick, transport, wash, or stack itself.

    • AmericanValues

      Charlie, google Senate Bill 3081 GovTrack.us John McCain is a treasonous traitor to the United States of America

    • John McCain’s father helped cover up the USS Liberty attack that Israel pulled off.

      • Justin. White people in charge of Arizona do not want to lose control of power. John McCain is part of this racist group in Arizona who control the money writing bills that become law exacerbating continuing control of Arizona and ultimately the US.

        John McCain’s father taught his sons how to be arrogant. It is well know fact John McCain was the son a an Admiral. Not me, I do not, and did not care, who his father was, but to many others this made him some how a better American.

        What I find funny is many, and I am guessing a lot of his fellow prisoners in Vietnam had more blue American blood in them then he. I know my family line has around ten direct American historical figures in it. So do most White Anglo Americans. Somehow his pedigree makes him a better American?

        Somehow his time in prison made him a hero to many. To me McCain is just another guy who was lucky to have an Admiral as a father.

        What this got him was a ticket out of a mediocre military career, and a retirement job as an lowly airline pilot.

  12. Oldleatherneck

    If you don’t live in Arazona and you are not being bombarded by Mexican Nationals flooding your comunity, using all the public sevices and bankrupting your State illegaly. Then shut the hell up and quit your damn bellyaching. All they are doing is enforcing the law that the federal government refuses to do.

  13. Do you really think getting rid of ethnic classes is going to stop resentment against white people? Are you going to stop redlining, school and housing segregation, too. How about job discrimination? I suppose that has nothing to do with resentment. How about this immigration law you just passed? Do you think that’s going to stop resentment. And aren’t those ethnic studies open to all students now? At least I’m glad to know she irons her sheet.

  14. ROBERT VNVET 11thcav

    That comment about the super markets and the produce is total BULLSHIT!!! I hauled produce after my return from Viet Nam back in the early 70′s and let me tell you some simple facts that even you simple minded asses can understand… Back than even in Nogalas Az, in 100 plus weather there were very few Mexicans if any loading the produce trucks… The main work force comprised of mostly white and black guys that were going to school and to make money to pay for their schooling…. So for those of you that don’t know what your talking about, go to HELL… And now with all the modern equiptment including pallets, which back in the day all loads were put on the floors by hand and air conditioning and shorter work hours, and good pay with benifits, we don’t need the cheep, sick labor from Mexico…. Get your heads out of your asses people we have to start someplace to close our boarders and get control back.. Those that want to enter like everyone else has to, they are welcome…
    Add to society, pay your taxes, and enjoy the good life.. But if you want to swimm or jump fences, than get the F—K OUT!!!! We don’t need or want you here…Arizona is the only State that has the stones to start doing something about this mess, What’s so bad is that People have to die before any Government will step up and tighten the boarders…. Sorry to those that look Mexican, I’m a dark skin Itallian, and if I get stopped and asked for my ID, I welcome it, I don’t have anything to hide, if I did than I’d probably piss and moan about it like all the cry babies that are…YOUR either a citizen or your NOT, plain and simple!!!! those that arn’t are breaking the law, what part of that don’t people understand????
    Get real people, you can’t have it both ways.. Hell the guys that pick up my trash here in California probably make more money than most of you do and they don’t want cheap, uneducated, sick illegal people taking their jobs away…

    Wise up people!!!!!

  15. ROBERT VNVET 11thcav

    After reading all the comments and rereading the article, if I was a drinking man, I’d need a drink… Just a few days ago there was an article that the Assholeiated Press wrote about PTSD that got everyones hair on the back of their necks standing up, now there is this piece of CRAP article… Is VTN needing to fill space like tha AP had to, This guy Micheal Leons needs to get his head back from out of the woods up there, or a little less bear and cheeze… Are you really serious, or did your wife have a bad week this month???? You think you so high and mighty because you live all the way up North, well it won’t belong before the same problems we have in the South West will be knocking on your front door, and in your schools and on your streets… Keep wirting CRAP like this, and Shame on VTN for putting it on their web site… Your no better that thoose two scrwe balls that called all us with PTSD frauds… Get in your boat go fishing , drink some bear with your cheeze, and kick back and watch the law breaking Mexicans take over your life….

  16. Simon Alvarado

    I am an American, not a Hispanic, Latin or whatever they want to call us. My Dad was born in this country and later drafted into WWII after he was repatriated to a country he never belonged, Mexico. Yes, he was told that he needed to go back where he came from! My dad been a decent man went to Mexico to start a new life in a new country to him. Yet, in 1942, he was sent a draft notice, again, my dad being a decent man return back to this country and entered the war. Soon after arriving in Germany, his entire company was captured by the German and spent the rest of the war in a POW camp. When he was released after Polish commandos liberated them he was repatriated back to America. I have seen and experienced the abuse of the legal system. It is degrading when you are excluded from ID check because you are different. At a bus station in Ft Stockton I was approached by this heavy set sheriff and asked me for my ID. I showed him my retired military ID and asked me “what is that”. Yes, my friends’ ignorance ran amuck. These are the folks that are going to enforce the laws. It would be no different than being told that your headlight is out or whatever is missing so they can search or interrogate you. Yes, this is the country that I bleed for and almost died for. If you want to know how a horse feels after being ridden for hours, ask the horse not the rider. I know of no other flag than the one I fought for, treat me with respect, I have earned it and other like me.

  17. I want to thank Arizona to pass a law that mirrors the US Government Law, I think more states will do this I am tried for taking care of these people, and their hangar baby I feel send them all back from what ever country they, I am a viet nam veteran and fought for this country to keep it safe and our bourder closed, look at Mexico look how they look at people coming into their country without paper work, it is that way in all country, have if you do not have the paper go home,

  18. HEY ,PUT MY LAST MESSAGE FOR “OBAMA AND HONOR ARIZONANS” IN THIS COMMENTS !!

  19. ROBERT VNVET 11thcav

    Simon, I bleed for you man, My dad went through the same shit in world war II, he didn’t spend a lot of time in a prison but was in every invasion in Europe and Italy.. Like I said earlier, I’m olived skin my self and I’d be pissed if I got hastled because of my skin color, But brother something has to be done, it has to start somewhere… Soon after the ones get wind of being hastled up here they will loosen up on the checks, but it has to start somewhere..
    You talk about a country bumkin not knowing what your military ID is for, I have the same shit pulled on me here in California with my VA ID when some Latin check out person askes me for a second ID, so I feel your pain Brother…
    It’s F—ked up that in this day of age that stupidity like this has to exist… Just read most of the comments on this site everyday.. If their not Bashing the President, or a political party, their tearing each other a new ass hole…. It doesn’t matter what color you are or where your from, it’s just a bunch of fools talking shit they heard someone else say… BUT the fun part is they and I mean none of them have any answers, NONE OF THEM… The ones doing the bashing don’t have a damn idea what is real anymore… The ones putting down our government don’t have ant military backround, never had to survive nights of mortor shellings, APG’s blowing up shit all around them, and on and on, but they have all the stones needed to do the Bitching… This country is full of non patriotic people, and they want to spread their shit on everyone else… Thay had it their way for 8 years with the Bush man and his scum bag VP, where were all the bashers than…
    HANG IN THERE BROTHER

  20. Matt Ford, M.P.A.

    Mike ,

    You wrote a stupid article. You should know that Mexico has very stiff immigration laws. Why can’t we?

    The Mexican Government will bar foreigners if they upset ” the equilibrium of the national demographiocs. ”

    If outsiders do not enhance the country’s” economic or national interests’ or are
    ” not found to be physically or mentally healthy,” they are not welcome. Neither are those who show ” contempt against national sovereignty or security.”

    Illegal entry is a felony, punishable by two years imprisonment. Document fraud and alien marriage fraud are also subject to fine and imprisonment.

    Foreigners can be expelled from Mexico without due process of law. Reentry after expulsion merits ten years imprisonment.

    All law enforcement officials must enforce immigration laws and deportations. The military must assist them and native born Mexicans can make citizens arrests of illegal aliens and turn them in to authorities, etc. etc.

    ( Source: Culture of Corruption by Michelle Malkin )

  21. TO VETERANS TODAY MEMBERS:
    I WROTE MY OWN COMMENTS IN YOUR COMMENT. ONE OF YOU REMOVED MY COMMENTS, SO NOW MYSELF AND WE WILL NOT TRUST YOU OR ANYONE OF YOU ANYMORE, THAT IS THE END,
    CHEAT SHOTS YOUR PEOPLE !

  22. Arizona is right. What do these people not get about illegal entrance into another sovereign country? Those who defend the illegal (not “undocumented”) invaders? Catch them lock them up for five years…then send them packing.

    I am proud of Arizona’s stand. ALL states should follow suit.

    Oh yeah, I am NOT against LEGAL immigration by anyone!

    Illegal is illegal!

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