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GORDON DUFF: ISRAELI AMBASSADOR ADMITS ROGUE OPERATIONS, SPYING AND WORSE

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

ROGUE ISRAELI-SOVIET SPY, JONATHAN POLLARD

ISRAELI AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED STATES, MICHAEL OREN  “WE DON’T SPY ON AMERICA, ROGUE ISRAELI GROUPS DID IT”

By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor

“…we’re talking about an event that was run by a rogue organization in the Israeli intelligence community” (Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren on the Jonathan Pollard  spy case)

In a shocking revelation today, Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren admitted that super-spy Johnathan Pollard, responsible for the murder of 100 CIA agents and the turnover of 360 square feet of vital intelligence to the Soviet Union wasn’t really working for Israel at all.  In 1998, the government of Israel admitted that Jonathan Pollard was a spy for Israel, having stolen nearly every NATO defense plan needed to assure a Soviet victory in case of war.  Israel claims that a defense agreement, not in evidence, makes any information held by the United States, found useful to Israel, no matter its security classification, property of the State of Israel.  The Israeli news agency Haaretz quotes as follows:

“Israel’s ambassador to the United States on Monday said that convicted spy Jonathan Pollard was not working for Israeli government spymasters but for a rogue intelligence agency – apparently contradicting an official state position.”

In this instance, secrets meant to defend NATO from Soviet invasion were useful to Israel who traded them in order to get Jews released from Russia and allowed to immigrate to Israel.  Israel contended that it was their inherent right to that information because they had a vital need for it.  In that information, along with locations of all vital NATO nuclear facilities, were the names of all CIA operatives working behind the Iron Curtain and details on their contacts.  After this information went to Israel, then to Russia, all involved, CIA handlers, agents and their families were murdered, the biggest intelligence disaster in American history.

As a result of the Pollard incident, a reminder of the slaughter of the crew of the USS Liberty in 1967, many members of the FBI, CIA and US military had become extremely resentful of Israel.  The payment of $1 million to Pollard by the Israeli government in 2001, just prior to 9/11 and his status as Israel’s greatest living hero, was seen as proof of official sanction for his spying, sanction backed by the 1998 admission.  Now, however, Ambassador Oren has announced this was simply cover for Israel’s embarrassment at its inability to control a massive rogue operation, not only of spies but special operations groups of every kind, working around the world but in no way, whatsoever, answerable to the Israeli government. 

Thus, the suppression of Israeli involvement in the 9/11 attacks, including the arrests in New York of Israeli operatives as terrorists involved in the attack, and their subsequent release, can now be understood.  As to what part this rogue organization that has misrepresented itself as government sanctioned, typically as Mossad, was involved in the planning of 9/11 is unclear other than their foreknowledge of the attacks. 

Were Israeli’s warned in order to incriminate Israel? An examination of casualty figures for the 9/11 attacks shows a number of victims with Jewish names but no holders of Israeli passports, although many were employed in the World Trade Center, the largest group of foreign passport holders by far.   Citizens of 57 countries perished on 9/11.

 By far the foreign country with the largest loss of life was the United Kingdom, with 67 deaths (excluding the overseas territory of Bermuda). India had 41, South Korea had 28 and Canada and Japan had 24 each. Colombia had seventeen and Jamaica, Mexico and the Philippines had sixteen each. Australia and Germany had eleven each, while Italy had ten.

There is absolutely no evidence that a rogue intelligence operation had contacted Israeli passport holders or given out any warning at all.  However, when the fact of the bizarre statistical anomaly in 9/11 casualties came to light immediately after the attack, news organizations universally misrepresented these facts, now in “public domain.”

COWBOY MANIACS, DESTROYING ISRAEL’S GOOD NAME

With the admission of a conspiracy, operating worldwide with one goal, the destabilization of the State of Israel, not by attacks on Israel but by attacks done in Israel’s name, we enter a new region in the analysis of security threats.  Most serious, of course, is the door this opens regarding culpability for 9/11, something Israel has been increasingly subject to.  Now it has become  clear that the ties between groups that were involved in the proven demolition of Building 7 and the Israeli terrorists arrested by the NYPD in no way lead to the Israeli government.  As to whether the companies owned by Israeli nationals whose catastrophic series of security failures on 9/11 contributed to the disaster are part of this terrorist ring is, in no way clearly established either.

A similar set of circumstances during the 2009 Christmas “crotch bombing” in Detroit may, however, bring into question the possibility of a pattern of conduct within this organization that Ambassador Oren has exposed. 

It remains to be seen how many terrorist operations that have been tagged as Mossad can be tied to the group Oren refers to.  Attempts to get details from the Israeli embassy in Washington on the make-up of these groups, whether they are Israeli nationals, Americans of Jewish heritage, former Mossad or IDF has not yielded results.  Whether operations like the PKK attack on Turkey or the assassination of an Hamas agent in Dubai can be credit to this group remains to be seen.

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86 Comments for “GORDON DUFF: ISRAELI AMBASSADOR ADMITS ROGUE OPERATIONS, SPYING AND WORSE”

  1. I want Ron Paul and his supporters know that I got upset with him because of his son. I have financially supported both of them in the recent months and had plenty of faith in both of them before I heard about Rand Paul’s support for Israel which simply made me sick.

    I got to know about Ron Paul only after the 2008 election and he should have been our president in 2008. I was being brainwashed by Fox news and the conservative radio hosts who–were unfair to him during this election. If he were the president we would have saved lives of so many of our troops and more Muslims. I really want to have someone like Ron Paul but I feel his son is now in the way for which I get upset with him as well as Ron Paul.

    I want to give him all the credit for everything he has done for so many years and God bless Ron Paul!

    I am concerned whether he has the same passion he had in 2008 and whether his own son feels embarrased at his father’s foreign policy ideology now that he has become one of neocons. I love Ron Paul’s foreign policy ideology, his wanting to end the fed, end income tax, abolish the CIA. I am even for abolishing FEMA, energy department and homeland [in]security.

  2. Great posts Michael Volz! We don’t know how long people will have freedom to voice their opinion on sites like this. I want to wish you and others who visit this site safety and security at this dangerous and uncertain time. God bless you all and Michael take care. Gordon Duff stay safe. Thank you for everything you have done and God bless you Gordon!

  3. Who is behind terrorists? by Michael Rivero

    Just for a moment, I want you to consider the possibility that maybe 99% of the terrorists in the world are manufactured fakes, a bloody theater to serve the interests not of fringe groups, but of entire nation-states?

    Now before you laugh and head off to get a coffee, just stop and think for a moment. Would any real group of oppressed people needing the support of world opinion to affect change intentionally set out to commit such an horrific atrocity that it destroys that very support?

    Let us say that Nation A is being cruelly oppressed by Nation B. Nation A has succeeded in winning world sympathy and support for the harsh and cruel treatment they suffer at the hand of Nation B. Then all of a sudden, there is a “terror” attack, and it look like Nation A has struck out at Nation B, killing a lot of innocent people. World sympathy for Nation A vanishes in an instant and shifts over to Nation B, the perceived victim.

    Why would Nation A do such a stupid thing?

    The truth is, nation A would not do such a thing. The benefit of the terror attack points to the real culprit, which is Nation B engaging in what is called a “False Flag: attack; committing an act of atrocity in order to blame it on the enemy. Examples of false-flag attacks would include the bombing of the King David Hotel in 1946, carried out by members of Irgun dressed as Arabs, the Lavon Affair in 1954, carried out by Israeli agents but blamed on Egypt, and the attack on the USS Liberty in 1967, which had it succeeded, was also to be blamed on Egypt.

    Nation A is, of course, Palestine, and Nation B is Israel, and it began to be obvious that there was a pattern in the so-called “terrorist” attacks which always seemed to occur just when public opinion was starting to favor the Palestinians, just in time to thwart the Palestinians’ desire for a nation of their own, always just in time to swing world opinion back to Israel’s continuing theft of Palestinian lands.

    So who are the terrorists really working for?

    Israeli Mossad Role in Turkey Coup Plot Revealed

    Israel funded “terrorist” groups through BCCI

    AMIA was Mossad False-flag Operation

    Mossad Agent killing Oz Tourists to steal their identity to use in fake Al-Qaeda operations

    ‘Mossad capable of US attack’: US Army officials

    Iran hangs “terrorist” linked to Mossad

    Montreal Averts Israeli Mossad Terrorist Attack

    Israeli Mossad = al Qaeda?

    Judiciary starts work on case of Mossad-linked terror group

    Assassins caught on video reveals possible Mossad-Fatah link

    Mossad funded Abu Nidal through BCCI

    Mumbai: The Mossad Angle

    Hamas Was Founded by Mossad

    Israeli officer sells weapons to terrorists in Iraq

    MOSSAD FALSE FLAG TERRORIST ATTACKS

    Revealing information on Mossad terrorist acts worries Europeans

    Mossad and Moving Companies: Masterminds of Global Terrorism?

    Group that took credit for “Bandini Bomber” linked to Mossad.

    MARRIOTT BOMB:Mossad pulls off another false-flag operation

    Mossad Exposed in Phony`Palestinian Al-Qaeda’ Caper

    Mossad orchestrated Christmas Day bomb plot

    British Broadsheet Links Mossad to 9/11

    How Mossad Deceived the U.S. Military on 9/11

    A Look at the Mossad’s Assassination Squads

    Army Captures ‘Terrorist Ring’ Working for Mossad

    Lebanon’s Army captures Israeli Mossad ‘Terrorist Ring’

    A bumbling Mossad hand suspected in Dubai assassination

    Mossad stealing passports in Australia and NZ

    Mossad supporting “Radical Muslim” groups.

    Mossad-Linked Cell Arrested in South Lebanon

    Mossad links to 1986 Berlin disco bombing

    HUNDREDS OF MOSSAD AGENTS CAUGHT RUNNING WILD IN AMERICA!

    Mossad-backed terror network in Lebanon

    Mossad was found to be propping up ‘Islamic terrorist’ groups in mid-east.

    Mossad implicated in a coup plot in Turkey, a NATO country

    Mumbai Terror Attacks: The Mossad Angle

    Mossad linked to “Jundollah” attacks, and kidnapping of Iranian border guards

    Mossad behind Hindu terror group

    Israeli Mossad Links To World Trade Center Attack

    Abu Nidal – Mossad terrorist

    ‘Terror’ group in Iran linked to Mossad, CIA

    Attack On US Embassy In Yemen Linked To Mossad

    Mossad Black Ops and False Flags

    Mossad linked to “Crotch Bomber”

    Mossad linked to 9/11 attacks: Report

    9-11 Mossad Agents Admit Mission: “Our Purpose Was To Document The Event”

    Only people actually arrested on 9-11 were Israelis

    Mossad Link Found to One of Key 9-11 Hijackers

    Bush Administration Ignores Mossad-Al Qaeda Terrorist Link

    Al Qaeda are really Mossad

    Mossad linked to Ergenekon plot

    Hezbollah infiltrated by Mossad, does Israel’s bidding. Attacks when Israel needs excuse to invade Lebanon

    Is Hizbullah a Mossad front?

    Israel tricked the US into attacking Libya

    When Israel attacked the USS Liberty they tried to frame Egypt for it.

    The Lavon Affair: Israel has a history of faking terror attacks.

    Israel creates and aids terror groups.

    If HAMAS is so bad why did Israel create it? To demonize Palestinians?

    Israel stages all these “terror” attacks to trick America into hating
    Israel’s enemies.

  4. Internet Censorship has started already. I am not able to get articles on the website, Daily Paul. Neocon warmongers are trying to destroy the Liberty movement and it is suspected that they have infiltrated this group and are trying to sabotage it from within. Rand Paul should be blamed for this. This man has proven to be a traitor and I don’t understand why anyone in the Liberty Movement should donate money for his campaign. Being the son of Ron Paul should not give him the priviledge of collecting money at the expense of other candidates who truly deserve financial help for being true Libertarians instead of the traitor Rand Paul.

    It is not about personalities but principles. Ron Paul, you must discipline your greedy, power hungry and devious son who is destroying the efforts of millions of people who have put their faith and money into building this Movement or else both of you leave the Liberty Movement. We have no time to play around and we need people for the Cause of Liberty and Rand Paul is for destroying Liberty and freedom of countries/people whom Israel perceives to be its enemies.

    Ron Paul has done a bad job of raising this man who has turned out to be another traitor and because of whom the entire Liberty Movement is at risk. We need Rand Paul to leave politics. If not father ansd son both should leave.

    We need new blood. We need people whom we can trust and they don’t have to be lawyers and doctors. They can be farmers, carpenters, plumbers, retired post masters, little shop owners, truck drivers, house wives, people who have courage to stand up to the tyrant Israel and point the finger and say “you did 9/11, you bombed USS Liberty, you did Levon Affair and we are coming after you” [not freemasons, eastern stars please]

  5. What is the ratio of farming tools to military weapons – just wondering.

  6. Politics with countless rules/regulations which few of them have read. How are ordinary people supposed to keep up with all these everchaning rules/regulations. Let Talmud be the guide, i guess.

  7. And we have 85 U.S. Senators, traitorously, groveling to show their allegiance to a foreign country. It doesn’t take a bright person to see that something is inherently wrong with that.

  8. US government has done nothing about Israel’s bombing of USS Liberty and other crimes of Israel.

  9. What are UN and America and Africa and Indonesia doing about Israel’s war crimes?

  10. Have you heard of the man by the name of Steven Ratner?

    “Sri Lanka has lashed out at the United Nations secretary general’s rare decision to appoint a three-member panel to look into alleged war crimes committed in Sri Lanka as the 26-year-old civil unrest came to an end in May last year. On Tuesday, UN secretary general Ban Ki-moon appointed Indonesia’s Marzuki Darusman, South African Yasmin Sooka and Steven Ratner from the US to “advise him on the issue of accountability with regard to any alleged violations of international human rights and humanitarian law during the final stages of the conflict in Sri Lanka–24/06/10″ taken from Lankaweb Latest–Sri Lankan News.

  11. Jonathan Pollard is not responsible for the murder of no-one!
    It’s a lie!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83uSBH0wWN8

    • Wow! Is this your first assignment out of Mossad Academy or Shill Shul? Got proof too!? I won’t bother to watch it. Your first comment blew your cover!

      Mike

  12. Robert J Molineaux, Redfield, New York

    The writer of this article appears to accept as fact Oren’s cock and bull story about a “rogue” group doing all these vicious things in the name of Israel. Oren’s foray is just the latest of a series of PR efforts on the part of Israel’s supporters in the US to divert attention from the criminal activities of the government of Israel through its clandestine organizations. More and more truth about these activities is coming to light and Israel is becoming desperate to find new and ingenious ways to conceal its criminal acts and the treasonous behavior of its supporters in the US.

  13. The “rogue” Israeli line is not true. The FBI released the Israelis who appeared to have prior knowledge of 911. These guys ended up getting on Israeli national TV and boasting about their mission. At least two of them were identified as having Mossad links. Israel doesn’t seem to worried about them. Nope, no arrests there.

    Since Pollard, Israelis seem immune to prosecution in the U.S. Reason…look no further than the Israeli citizens that surround Obama, and look at the nationality of those who have been controlling the Justice Department – massive conflict of interest.

    This is just very weak damage control – desperation maybe? Caught too many times?

    Rick in Toronto

    America: eyes shut wide

  14. If the Army School of Advanced Military Studies (SAMS) has this to say about Mossad:

    Of the MOSSAD, the Israeli intelligence service, the SAMS officers say: “Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target U.S. forces and make it look like a Palestinian/Arab act.”

    -I’m sure they’re capable of targeting U.S. forces/agents/assets and making it look like a rogue Israeli act.

    P.S. As a European, it is an inspiration to come across such an honest, articulate and intelligent discussion of a subject which mainstream American media deems taboo.

  15. Netanyahu and Oren can’t seem to agree who Pollard worked for. If Netanyahu is correct and he worked for Israel, Israel was responsible for the loss of American lives and of giving assistance to an enemy. If Oren is correct and Pollard worked for a “rogue intelligence agency,” of which agency does he speak? Which country, ours or theirs? OJ was not credible when he claimed Colombian drug dealers murdered his wife. Oren is not credible to allude to a plot but tell us nothing of who plots.

    It seems something is afoot. Recently Danny Barak, an important Israeli financial figure involved in US markets committed suicide. A few days later, another influential financier, Solomon Obstfeld also committed suicide. The question is: were these suicides voluntary? Is someone getting more and more nervous at the level of economic crime against the US that links back to Israel?

    By the way, Obstfeld’s firm specialized in deals called PIPEs, which are Private Investments in Public Entities. What a great concept that one was. I call them siphons. You set up a private company within a publicly traded company and siphon off profits, write bad loans and bonds and lawyer-up when it goes south. This way the pensions funds and mutual funds pay your way. If you are a citizen of this country and see people suffering, losing retirements, not having healthcare and not having jobs, you might care. If you see yourself as belonging to a special club, maybe you don’t mind creating suffering or see those who suffer as insignificant.

    Another interesting topic of the day is Gen. McChrystal. I find it very odd that a Rolling Stone reporter is taking down a war commander. I always get suspicious when all the networks get worked up over the exact thing. It is quite astounding to watch this operation.

    • Michael J Volz

      A number of articles implied Admiral Blair was in bed with Israel (disinformation) . Further research revealed Israel didn’t like him because he appointed fair and professional Charles Freeman.

      This house cleaning was initiated by Steve Rosen, Israel spy.

      Mike

    • Michael J Volz

      I too was wondering about all these rich jews doing dive off tall buildings. Bernie madoff’s assistant drowned at an inconvenient time. I’m not sure these deaths are real since it is no doubt easy for these folks get someone else to throw off the roof, bribe a coroner and otherwise prevent an investigation. That seems to be their specialty.

      Mike

  16. Penumbra, thank you for giving the relevant website and the name of author. Have a nice day!

  17. Dear Mr. Duff,

    I am taking liberty of sharing with you my case. It will provide you with many answers to the questions brought by your article. My case was never properly investigated and guilty never brought to justice. Only my life has been destroyed. I am lucky though – there is no other person with my kind of experiences who is still alive (at least I didn’t hear about). Please read it at your convenience. Surely you will find interesting material, perhaps some supporting evidence for the cases you already published and, I wish, you will find my case worth to be presented on your website.
    Any feedback will be greatly appreciated. I have nothing to hide and will answer all your questions. The last and very important thing. Please CONFIRM reception of this correspondence. My mails disappear often plus so called “controlled opposition” never confirms reception anyhow (this way they are not obligated to act or even comment).
    Awaiting your response,

    Andrzej Suda
    (currently in Switzerland)
    tel.(mobile) +41-79-860-03-66 (SMS works good)
    emails: as1959@juno.com
    oldeuropeaninteriors@yahoo.com

    Synopsis of my case below the dotted line.

    …………………………………………………………………………

    My name is Andrzej Suda. I was born in Poland but for the last 24 years lived in the USA. I witnessed a treason committed on the highest levels of the American government and law enforcement. Fourteen years later I am finding myself with my career and my life destroyed, forced to run away just to save my life.
    I am an Industrial Designer. Graduated in 1982, one of the two first professionally trained car designers in Eastern Block. The London DESIGN Magazine wrote in March of 1983 a short article about me and my class graduation. In 1985 I immigrated to the USA, looking for normal life away from communism. Unfortunately I didn’t know that Polish government did not forget about me. Approximately a year and a half later, through a string of arranged “coincidences” I met an attractive girl, also a Polish immigrant. Her role was, as I found out later, to become my girlfriend, perhaps eventually wife, use me (this naïve artistic type) as her cover and do her intelligence work. As far as I know her role was to penetrate the highest levels of the U.S. law enforcement (especially DEA, FBI and Air Force Investigations), politics and defence industry by befriending and compromising their members. Somewhere in the spring of 1995 I started to realise my situation. It wasn’t because I suddenly became smarter than usual. I was already very sick, dying from the slow poisoning with RICIN. My girlfriend knowing that I could die any day, became less careful with her actions. This helped me to wake-up and to understand what was going on. I begun to quickly collect evidence, hoping to go to the Police, FBI and other agencies, and to end the nightmare I was living in. WRONG!
    All the law enforcement agencies were initially extremely interested. They had no doubt my case was real and very serious. The Criminal Intelligence Unit of the San Diego Police even helped me to get a Concealed Weapon Permit (permit to carry a gun all the time) because the evidence they collected indicated I was in a grave danger. After a few months all the law enforcement agencies I approached were forced by somebody to stop investigations. The most dramatic was my experience with the FBI. The FBI wasn’t interested to investigate my case at all – instead they informed the Polish intelligence network about my actions. You can understand why I feel lucky to be alive today! I asked the highest law enforcement agency in America to help me in this situation – to investigate the FBI betrayal and to bring guilty to justice. This highest law enforcement agency is not widely known. It is called the Office of the Inspector General of the U.S. Department of Justice (shortly O.I.G.). O.I.G. was created to investigate crimes committed by agents of FBI, CIA, DEA and other federal agencies. With the help of the O.I.G. I was able to collect hard evidence of the FBI treason. What do you think happened next? Well, the O.I.G. investigator was transferred from San Diego to San Francisco and stopped his investigation! In 1999 he was interviewed by a journalist Jeff Nyquist and admitted (I quote): “There is a problem at the Justice Department in Washington. Things were being short-circuited at the top. For some strange reasons, spies connected to Eastern European mafia organizations were being allowed to operate freely on American soil” (end of quote). Through my painful experiences I learned that my survival depends on how quickly and how widely I can publish my evidence. The Italian association against organized and institutionalized abuse published my case on it’s website and, additionally, in 2005 in a book titled “IT’S ABUSE NOT SCIENSE FICTION”. In the USA two journalists investigated my case and wrote articles. Also, I was a guest on several radio shows of the independent radio stations. This prevented me from having so popular between unwanted people “deadly car crash” or a “heart attack” Now my suspicious death would only confirm the seriousness of my case. Instead of getting eliminated, I became a target of all imaginable forms of harassment: from a string of never ending “bad luck” events to set-ups with car crashes, lawsuits and IRS investigations. All were based on fabricated charges, aimed to destroy my life (at the best) or (at the worst) to make me an ordinary criminal and put into the prison. With the extreme amount of effort, help of a few (still existing!) good people and some good luck I was able to avoid the worst. Nevertheless, my career and my life was finally destroyed.
    What is my conclusion? The Cold War wasn’t real. The ruling forces of this planet need a perpetual enemy in order to keep the general population under control. Those who have read “1984” by George Orwell remember Emanuel Goldstein and his role. That’s all….so simple. Even before I begun to suspect my girlfriend, some honest people at the State Department discovered her real profession and attempted to deport her. Nobody else, but a Chief of the U.S. Armed Forces Committee of the U.S. Congress, Congressman Duncan Hunter stopped the deportation procedure and gave her a Green Card with a new “A” number. The old file under her original “A” number (where the reasons of deportation were attached) simply disappeared. This is treason! A treason committed by the American official with the highest, equal to the president, security clearance! Was he punished for betraying his country? No, he was one of the presidential candidates during last election.
    So, my conclusion is that the Cold War was a staged performance necessary for the maintenance of existing Status Quo. Everybody who discovered the truth (or just asked too many questions) was eliminated. Now, after the “collapse” of communism, much more “full-proof” and “universal” enemy was created – terrorism, and “the show goes on….”

    ———————————————————————————
    REFERENCES
    ———————————————————————————
    Below is a link to my documentation published on the website of the Italian association against organized and institutionalized abuse:
    http://www.aisjca-mft.org/Pdf-Suda_enter.htm
    Click ENTRA/ENTER to go to my testimonies. Click on those „click-able“ numbers to view individual pages of documentation. The book „It’s abuse NOT science fiction“ containing the same material is available by mail order from:
    LIBRERIA CORTINA TORINO
    Corso Marconi 34/a
    10125 Torino, Italy
    email: ordini@cortinalibri.it
    ———————————————————————————-
    Link to an article written for the http://www.WorldNetDaily.com about my case:
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=19862
    A quote from this article:
    “Both Andrzej Suda and Mikhail told their stories to the FBI. But in both cases the FBI did nothing. A ranking law enforcement official familiar with Suda’s case, whom I interviewed while researching the Suda story, thought there was a problem at the Justice Department in Washington. Things were being short-circuited at the top, he believed. For some strange reason, spies connected to East European mafia organizations were being allowed to operate freely on American soil.”
    ————————————————————————

    An article about my case written for the http://www.Rense.com:  
    http://www.rense.com/general69/iron.htm
    A quote from this article:
    “American citizen, Andrew Suda of Poland, has been poisoned and almost killed by his girlfriend, working as an undercover operative with apparent assistance from Homeland Security and the U.S government “

  18. Will anybody know the name of the author or the website that carried this information?

    The author is Debbie Mennon and the original site is http://sabbah.biz/mt/

    They have also posted Gordon’s articles.

    Another excellent survey on the true nature of Israel (from the perspective of an awakened American Jew who had lived there) can be found here: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/israel.htm

    As for Mr. Oren, once a liar always a liar. There is no more validity to the claim of a rogue Mossad splinter group than there ever was to the existence of any group or network of groups called Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda always was a CIA/Mossad cover for their own black ops. Those captured, tortured and killed under the alleged moniker of Al Qaeda are/were merely an assortment of former assets mixed with populist nationalist figures from countries governed by despotic regimes in bed with Tel Aviv and Washington.

    What this means is that we as a nation have endorsed nothing more than the eradication of those who, in their own lands, have sought to overthrow the corrupt despots oppressing them and their fellow nationals just as we, the few, wish to see done here at home.

    Do not wonder at the lack of democracy or progress in those lands when, in truth, our national disposition and military muscle has been used to silence and slaughter those who could make such possible if we supported them. Our soldiers do not fight for our freedoms or anyone elses, rather they are sent out to prop up tyranny and the elite corporate profiteers that benefit from its maintenance.

    • Michael J Volz

      Penumbra, I agree with you on everything. Since it’s inception the CIA seems to have had a twisted view of what’s good for America.

      I wish George Washington would have come to them in a dream and explain a few things. Ho Chi Minh’s hero was George Washington but the CIA fought him in Viet Nam.

      Was the CIA ever concerned with the best interests of America? It has been said CIA was set up by British “intelligence” so perhaps not.

      My uncle was the CIA paramilitary planner for Operation Ajax, which was the “installation” of the shah of iran. I have studied that somewhat extensively and have never been able to see the benefit for the USA. As the result of AJAX,the successful early CIA project, a democracy was ended and a dictatorship was initiated.

      As near as I can tell it only benefited the British and the Anglo/Persian oil company (now BP)in stealing Irans’s oil, not for the USA, but for the British. I have to laugh when “savy” American assert that the American Military is stealing Middle East oil for “us”. Israel got free oil from Iran for twenty-seven years after Operation Ajax.

      Of course today it is all a moot issue since the CIA is totally controlled by mossad.

      Mike

  19. Thank you Faiz for the link. I read about the US District [Jewish] Judge. You made some wise statements. 33% of them will be more than enough to destroy our legal system and they have done it already. These are criminals.

    “We have been seduced by those masterful at deceit to freely embrace the very forces that delegitimized us as a nation and collapsed our economy from within.

    Which brings me back to the question: what about Building 7?” wrote Jeff Gates in his article “Watching Israel Delegitimize America”.

    Jeff Gates has written another brilliant article presenting us with facts and argument–ending the presentation with one of the most important questions: What about Building 7?”–which each one of us must continue to ask here in America [like the "Mainstream Europeans" as Jeff Gates points out]–the question Mainstream America and Mainstream media must have raised already–if not for people like Rupert Murdoch, Roger Ailes and all other media pimps and prostitutes–who have been hired by Rupert Murdoch and other Zionist Jews to do cover up and damage control–on behalf of “the only democracy in the Middle East” which happens to be America’s mistaken ally: the rogue state Israel.

    There is so much false propaganda against Muslims not just blaming them for 9/11, Detroit Crotch bomber, Time Square Fizzler–but according to a post here at VT [Jeff Gates article] on 5/24–they are being blamed for destroying Christians in the Middle East. Israel and Zionist Jews want the Christian church to go after Muslims so that selling wars become very easy–as well as taking away more of our liberties–and sell and install useless and harmful devices like body scanners–expand the police state etc.

    Please go to the website of Daryl-Bradford Smith “I Am the Witness”. Jeff Gates’ website “Criminal State” has a link to this website. Both these websites give a wealth of truthful information. It is Zionist Israel–that is the culprit for destroying Christians and Christianity–Not Muslims. It is Israel that did 9/11. It is Israel that has done suicide bombing operations and other crimes and murders and set up all other false flag operations in all countries while using Christian Zionists and other crooks and criminals to cover up their crimes.

    I wish to draw the reader’s attention to the following:

    (1) The Changing Tides in the Jewish Diaspora in Desertpeace.

    (2) The Byzantine Solution

    (3) Synagogue of Satan by Andrew Carrigton Hitchcock

    (4) Genetic Mutations, Peculiar Injuries: More evidence emerges that Israel used Gaza as Testing Grounds for experimental weapons by Alex Kane Uruknet.com. In this article a medical doctor from Norway Dr Mads Gilbert who was in Gaza talks about how Israel’s DIME weapons and flechette bombs brutally injured Gaza victims.

    (5) Who brought the Slaves to America by Walter White Jr 1968

    All this information is available at “I am the Witness” and much more.

    And finally don’t please believe “how good Elena Kegan going to be”. This person is a disaster to America if elected.

    Various articles of Gordon Duff and Jeff Gates and the article of Jeff Gates: Is the “Time Sq terrorist” an asset of organized crime?–which has many links–is well written. We are being deceived again and again and we need to wake up. Articles such as this and the aforementioned websites give the truth unlike MSM that includes Fox news and conservative radio and most Christian channels–which the Zionist Israel and its various arms use to continue to deceive us in order to sell us the illegal wars–despite wasteful loss of lives of our soldiers and innocent civilians abroad and despite America being bankrupt.

    There are Zionist shills everywhere and some of them will target this audience too. The last thing these criminals want is for our soldiers and veterans to know the truth. That is why we need to spread the word about articles by Gordon Duff and Jeff Gates–because the seeds of truth in their writings–will awaken our soldiers, veterans and other Americans–and we will then know who our real enemy is–before we can protect America and Americans.

    We need to know that we have only one real enemy and that enemy is Zionist Israel, Israeli Mossad and those Israel firsters in our government, our military and else where. These are the ones responsible for waging wars and robbing America and committing all other crime [including promoting illegal immigration] on America and Americans as well as on other countries and other people in the world–while trying to convince us and the world the enemy is the Muslim world which is not.

    “Thanks to the terrible power of our International Banks we have forced the Christians into wars without number. Wars have a special value for Jews since Christian massacre each other and make more room for Jews. Wars are the Jews’ Harvest, the Jew banks grow fat on Christian wars. Over one hundred million Christians have been swept off the face of the earth by wars and the end is not yet”— Rabbi Reichorn at the funeral of Rabbi Simeon Ben-Iudah in 1869–Taken from the website: I am the witness.

    It is not the PLO, Al-Queda, Hesbollah or dead Osma Bin Laden, it is the NWO architects and bankster gangsters, zionist Israel and Mossad and Zionist controlled media and organized Jewry that is America’s enemy. Please see John Kirby’s documentary: “America’s Ruling Class”.

    Way of Deception is how Israel and Mossad and organized Jewry operate while also trying to silence any dissent. By way of deception Zionist Israel and organized Jewry are waging wars against the Arab World–while also playing havoc with the American psyche through deception and lies.

    Thank you Jeff Gates for this article and your book “Guilt by Association”.
    Please read Jeff Gate’s aforementioned book, “Facts are Facts” by Benjamin H Freedman and books by Alan Hart and Norman Finkelstein and “Marching Toward Hell” by Michael Scheuer.

    It is time to understand the illicit shadow government that has been electing world’s leaders in the US and European countries and sabotaging those selected by the democratic process by the people like it has been done in Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan etc–to suit the New World Order agenda for Zionist world domination.

    Please order the book “Shadow Masters” by Daniel Estulan today to learn about the Bilderberg’s Conspiracy {NWO]–for world domination by Zionists who also have hijacked world’s banks, all governments and the Military Industrial Complex, the legal, medical and educational systems, subverted and perverted the western culture, orchestrated all wars and all sorts of murders and other crimes and the list goes on.

    Also reading Gordon Duff’s previous articles on similar issues–will enlighten the minds of many.

  20. Part II

    “Here’s an ADL study that found 35 million Americans to be ‘blatantly anti-Semitic’ and diatribes decrying the activities of The Palestine Solidarity Movement and others on campuses as “hate crimes” and anti-Semitic, also a “hate crime,” yet they make no mention of the ADL involvement in the campus assaults that have destroyed the career of Prof. Norman Finkelstein, and Prof. William Robinson and many other professors, and shutting down free and open discourse in American University lecture rooms, and reading lists.

    Read Americans Divided By Hate Crimes Bill by Karin Friedemann
    “The meat of the hate crimes bill is a $10 million grant for the establishment of a federally funded surveillance center” says Karin.

    Guess who will receive all of this money, and be placed in charge…
    You got it! Who is in charge of everything else in America?

    Selective Law, for selective enforcement, against or for selective groups is not a solution. It becomes the problem. Such a Law is, on the surface, unconstitutional. Will the Supreme court ever find this in some ruling? We should live so long!

    In the name of Freedom of Speech, they are shutting down all freedom of speech, except speech of which they approve. And, they are using U.S. Taxpayer money with which to do it!

    It is incredible that the one thing that Democrats and Republicans can unite on in Congress is, blind allegiance to the Israel Lobby AIPAC (American-Israeli Public Affairs Committee).

    Or, actually not that incredible, because they demonstrate exactly what anyone who speaks out against Israeli policy toward Palestinians has faced for years. Jews who support the peace camp are described as “self-hating Jews.” Jews, and non-Jews are told that they are “anti semites.”

    It is not really “anti-Semitism anyway,” of which they speak when they use the term as an epithet to counter criticism of all things Jewish, Israeli, Zionist or Judaic. It is “anti-Semitism” when they themselves criticize Palestinians and Arab Muslims of the Middle East who are more Semitic than most of the “Jews” living in the world, and particularly those who have migrated to Israel from the Diaspora, who are not Semites at all but primarily Ashkenazi from Eastern Europe, Western Asia, the Caucasus Region and many people of many other ethnic origins.

    In fact, if we wished to identify the greatest “anti-Semites” in the world we would have to recognize those so-called “Jews” who use such derogatory and demeaning racist epithets against people who criticize almost anything having to do with Israel, Zionism and Judaism but who condemn almost everything about Palestinians, and Middle Eastern Arabs and Muslims, who are about the only remaining people of Semitic origins in the world.

    The use of the term “Anti-Semitism” is just another example of how language has been twisted and distorted to wring the most effective and psychological and emotionally damaging impact from it, as in the case of their misuse of the word “Holocaust.”

    Dr. Yakov M. Rabkinis Professor of History at the University of Montreal said—“To fight antisemitism, it is crucial to dissociate Jews and Judaism from the State of Israel and its behaviour. Our parliamentarians should affirm the right of all Canadians to criticize Israel like any other country in the world, without the fear of being labelled antisemitic. This would be a sure way to rid Canada of the scourge of antisemitism, new and old”

    His recent book, A Threat from within: A Century of Jewish Opposition to Zionism (Fernwood), has been translated to eight languages and nominated for the Governor General Award.

    It is all a juggling act with words. Most of it illusion! Literary, or vocal sleight of hand!

    Yes, World gullibility has strangled Palestine, as well as the rest of the world, also. But, as I have been saying, this is NOT just about Palestine.

    Palestine is simply a preamble. But, it is a preamble in which we can clearly see the pattern and tactic which are being deployed for and in pursuit of a program of World domination of a World Empirical force through infiltration of governments and ownership of Media..

    Territory is prime Israeli objective in the Middle East. They have never drawn, claimed or defined an actual “boundary” or border for Israel. In fact, they deny even the “between the two great rivers.” scheme proposed in their scriptures as their “plan.”

    But, as I have said before, that when Israel exceeded even the bloodihandedness of the Nazi regime in their treatment of the Palestinians, they lost the moral high-ground forever, and all chances of making a peaceful settlement of any nature with the Palestinian people.

    They are no longer negotiating, or dealing with a “Palestine Government” or government body of any sort. They have successfully destroyed that as an entity by reducing Fatah to a quisling puppet token, and failure to acknowledge Hamas, which they have denied for so long that it would be impossible to do so now. There is no one else left with whom to “negotiate” or deal anymore except the Palestinian people, and every Palestinian, whether he was before Gaza or not, is now a “Resistance warrior” and “Freedom Fighter.”

    There can be no peace talks anymore! They have gone past the point where it is even a viable point for discussion.

    Yes, Israel has self-destructed, and all we have to do now is wait until it buries itself in time, as the world will insist.

    I like the metaphor about building houses of cards on sand, which is exactly what Elie Wiezel and his rolly “Holocausters” have done in complete disregard of the basic principles of propaganda set forth by their master propagandist, Herr Goebbles, from whom they learned their trade, that all lies postulated in propaganda must be based on at least one grain of undeniable and unequivocal truth.
    Houses of lies built of such insubstantial material not only lack the framework to hold them up for long, but are completely transparent for everyone to see the lack of structure, and witness all the conniving, canoodling, and such which goes on within, and might best be cadivelled and kept behind closed doors. Once Dorothy drew aside the veil of the Wizard, his magical powers ceased to exist.

    Thus it is with those who, like Elie Wiezel, build their houses of cards on sand, their dress of wholecloth. All the pretence and bluster they may profess will not hold the structure very long.

    The most gentle eastern breeze out of Palestine will eventually come and blow it all away, scattering the cards, and lifting the skirts of the Emperor’s transparent dress, disclosing the absurdities he has thought secret all these years.
    Fortunately, they are bungling, and it is obvious to even the most dense at the table that they were dealing from a crooked deck.

    How many times must world leaders watch them fumble the cards before they learn that they cheat and cannot be trusted?”

    Taken from some other website. I thank the author for this information. Will anybody know the name of the author or the website that carried this information?

    • Thanks Amy for the excellent review.
      Mike

      Thanks Amy for that excellent review!

      Mike

  21. Gordon, I remember sometime back in veteranstoday, either you or Jeff gates posted an article that showed statistics of US judges of which 33% are jews although their population is just 2%.
    Here’s a latest news about a judge probably committing fraud in public:
    Judge who nixed drill ban reported oil investments

    http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2010/06/23/general-industrials-us-gulf-oil-spill_7712795.html?boxes=Homepagebusinessnews

    This judaist dont have a moral character!!!!

  22. “Fuelling the emotions was the economic crisis that stirred a separate strain of hatred, he said. A scapegoat was needed, and “very quickly it was the Jews,” Foxman observed. “You wonder about the anti-Semitic snickers and comments about Jews and money…”

    Just look at the titans of Wall Street (all Jews) AIG (Mr. Alan Greenberg), Bernie Madoff, The junk Bond King Michael Milkin, Ivan Boesky. Israel Shamir correctly advocates: Hang ‘Em High! “They were proud that the financial charts of the US and of the world were drawn up in a small room by Henry Paulson of the Treasury, Ben Bernanke and Alan Greenspan of the Federal Reserve, by Maurice Greenberg of AIG. They built their world surrounded by Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch, Goldman sachs, Marc Rich, Michael Milken, Andrew Fastow, George Soros, et al. Their exciting new world of Lexus and Nexus was glorified by Tom Friedman of the New York Times. They gave the Nobel prize in Economics to Myron Scholes and Robert C. Merton, proud borad of directors of the now infamous Long Term Capital Management hedge fund that was bailed out by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York to the tune of $ 3.6 billion. President Bush rewarded them for their unaccountability by releasing them from the burden of taxation. let them pay now for all the fun they had.”
    And, what about Israel spying on U.S. (Jonathan Pollard), Or a Jewish Congresswoman Jane Harman trying to interfere with the prosecution of two individuals caught by the U.S. spying. Or the Israeli law that permits any Jew a safe haven in Israel for any crime and cannot be deported. With every passing day, the revelation of the true nature of Israel’s Zionist expansionist ambitions, their barbaric and treacherous foreign policy toward not only Palestine and Lebanon, but the rest of the world, which includes identity theft of foreigners and counterfeiting of foreign passports, violations of and outrages against, other friendly and allied nations’ sovereignty and murder by the hand of their clandestine agents in other sovereign countries, in broad daylight, have begun to shake up and weaken the foundations of the monolithic monument to “Jewish Suffering and Sacrifice”, which they have erected to rally popular world support for and sympathy with their insidious depredations against all gentiles.
    And what was done when Israel assaulted the unarmed US Navy ship, USS Liberty killing 34 American sailors, and injuring 172 out of the 277 onboard ? Israel said it was a mistake and Israel apologized, just like Israel bombs the UN outpost in Lebanon and Israel said it was a mistake.

    The U.S. (taxpayer) pours billions into Israel every year as the result of a very well organized effort by Israeli-Americans to control their foreign policy. Israeli interests control their media, such as, their film industry, their print industry, retail outlets, scrap, munitions. Even an Israeli company owns TAS the security operation at American airports.
    These pre-emptive Wars for Israel, that are being fought in the Middle East with American money, American military and American men and women are not in the best interest of America. They have if anything, weakened America’s standing and ruined America’s image in the world, which now President Obama is supposedly trying to ‘Change’ if he can!

    Foxman further states it’s vital that the International Community make the distinction between Judaism and Zionism in public.
    Since the Zionist do not, it is difficult to do so in the same room as them. They assure you that all of the peoples in the barrel are the same, and then criticize you for calling all of the apples in the barrel bad if you point out that there is one bad one amongst them in the bushel.
    Foxman says it’s more important than ever that the underlying causes of anti-Semitism be addressed?

    It is even more important that the powers of this minority group in the U.S. be addressed, and restrained, in currying special favor and legislation to further “Israel First” interests”.

    Please see below for more.

  23. Michael J Volz

    SOUNDS LIKE IMPLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY TO ME!

    WOLF BLITZER AND BIDEN WILL BUY IT THOUGH.

    OH!BAMA will have to check with axlerod and emanuel on this!

    Mike

  24. Hey, I have a type of ‘agreement’ with my bank and am in need of some funds, so can’t I just break in and rob the money I need?

    • Well let’s reason this out, shall we? You need the money badly don’t you? I mean without money, you’ll starve to death, no?

      Thus if the bank refuses to simply hand over the money, they’re essentially trying to kill you. So what we’re talking about here is actually an act of aggression by the bank, for which your “right to exist” demands that you defend yourself, accordingly.

      Yes, I can see it clearly. In your situation, robbing the bank could only be construed as a very measured act of “self-defense”.

      • Travis Baskerfield

        Spot on!
        From the Jewish English dictionary:
        persecution = when the goyim wont let us scam them any more
        captivity/exile = not being in Israel because there are no easy pickin’s there.
        self-hating Jew = one who shows signs of moral integrity
        anti-semite = anyone who defies the crime syndicate.

        Seriously though, the institutionalised corruption in place is so deep and pervasive, only the highly improbable event such as a global awakening that does not erupt into sheer rage at the unspeakable web of deception that has been woven into the fabric of our thought.

        • Michael J Volz

          You are correct; Very concise cogent and wise definitions. “They fit” as Henry Ford used to say.

          Mike

  25. Netanyahu: Pollard acted as Israeli agent
    By GIL HOFFMAN
    Jonathan Pollard acted as an agent of the State of Israel, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said Tuesday, in reaction to a comment from Israeli Ambassador to the US Michael Oren that was interpreted as suggesting otherwise. (…) Following reports on Army Radio about Oren’s interview, both Netanyahu and the ambassador issued clarifications.

    “Pollard worked as an agent of the State of Israel, and no one is trying to deny this,” Netanyahu said in closed conversations.

    Israeli Embassy spokesman Jonathan Peled added: “Ambassador Michael Oren wishes to clarify that, in responding to a journalist’s question, he attempted to emphasize that the Pollard incident occurred over 25 years ago by a unit that no longer exists, for which Israel took full responsibility. As has been stated, Mr. Pollard worked for and on behalf of Israel, and the ambassador hopes for his earliest release.”
    http://www.jpost.com/Home/Article.aspx?id=179209

  26. The new tack now Oren and his MAFIA associates have chosen to sail on is: “We are (again!) the VICTIMS, some ‘rogue organization’ has been doing bad things in our names”… How clever! Next, we will be presented for the EVIDENCE… may be in the form of documents found in the possession of somebody who committed suicide or was “killed” because he resisted arrest. Oren and his MAFIA kinsmen, all members of the same ‘Tribe’ are born compulsive liars and masters-conmen.

    • Michael J Volz

      Unfortunately unless something changes, Wolf Blizter will have the last word on this matter in his mossad run “Situation Room” .

      Mike

  27. I think Michael Oren is full of crap. I think he knows that the world is beginning to learn that the Israeli government assigned the Mossad the task of performing the evil false flag of 911 and is preparing the stage to suggest it was a rogue group and thus don’t blame the Israeli government. If the 911/Israeli/Mossad truth comes out Netanyahu can be in tears and say we feel your pain America we will punish this rogue group and by the way could you please send us more money.

    911 was a Mossad operation. Netanyahu and/or Ehud Barack probably gave the order. Very interesting that Oren comes out with this now that the 911/Israeli connection is all over the Internet. I think he was probably told to make that statement by someone higher up in command. Israel needs a plan B if the “Israeli government did 911″ hits the mainstream.

    How about this:

    Here is another powerful quote from Netanyahu: The Israeli newspaper Ma’ariv on Wednesday reported that Likud leader Benjamin Netanyahu told an audience at Bar Ilan university that the September 11, 2001 terror attacks had been beneficial for Israel.

    “We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq,” Ma’ariv quoted the former prime minister as saying. He reportedly added that these events “swung American public opinion in our favor.”
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8738

    • Well, perhaps Gordon is doing a tongue in cheek. I admit I just finished work and had a few glasses of Chardonnay and some cheese puffs with a colleague. MOSSAD DID 911. LET’S RESCUE THE PALESTINIANS!

  28. Unless this is tongue-in-cheek, it sounds like you believe this guy??

    I sure don’t.

    I don’t believe anything those radical political Zionists running the Israeli government say.

    This seems to me to be a very transparent way of trying to project their responsibility and involvement elsewhere.

  29. The article got one thing wrong “There is absolutely no evidence that a rogue intelligence operation had contacted Israeli passport holders or given out any warning at all”

    Oh, but there is, there is…they were warned via text message 2 hours before the attacks, and this is readily admitted!!!

    http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/odigo-says-workers-were-warned-of-attack-1.70579

  30. This is a great article by Gordon Guff. Oren is a liar and most of them are liars and sociopaths. We don’t need this liar in our country and we don’t need an ambassador from Israel, the criminal state. This man went to Ervine and Muslims protested and they got into trouble. Jews went hysterical about Iranian president’s speech at Columbia and at the UN–which were ok. Only Jews can protest not Muslims. They are supposed to just be silent. I ask all fools who still support dirty little Israel: Why is there a double standard when it comes to Israel and Jews? Let the whole world condemn this tyrant and monster for all atrocities and the attitude of organized Jewry. Enough is enough! How many more US soldiers Robert Gates is willing to have killed in fighting his master’s wars? Soldiers refuse to accept illegal orders and say no to wars for Israel. Let Jews fight their perceived enemies and let Robert Gates and Palin join them while you sleep at home.

    • nice Amy.

    • Michael J Volz

      Gates like many will do anything for money. I hope he gets his just do. But God must be merciful since Pollard has not been executed. What kind of man will ignore the best interests of hundreds of million of his own countrymen for a few million of his cousins.

      My experience tells me the financial success in America is not due to intelligence but their total willingness to engage is subverting the laws of the land for mutual benefit with their fellow tribesmen.

      Alan Sabrosky said most American jews are loyal to israel first.

      Mike

  31. We need Oren to tell us any thing don’t belive a word that comes out of his mouth.
    He is a liar always has been his book SIX DAYS OF WAR only supports he is a liar they all are.
    Phil

    • Michael J Volz

      I just came across some interesting info yesterday which I’m sure wasn’t in Oren’s book:

      During the six days war Egypt fired a Russian anti ship missile on an Israeli destroyer, cutting in two and sinking it immediately.
      (and tel aviv was very surprised). That is a scene Speelberg will leave out of the movie.

      Mike

    • Michael J Volz

      Now, Now, Phil! You don’t want to be called anti-semitic do you?

  32. Perhaps Oren is making overtures that a super-sized Bruce Ivins may be rolled out to sop up all of the blame.

    • something’s afoot..

      • Michael J Volz

        YEP, 911 TRUTH!

        • I’ve often wondered if they’re waiting for a few “people” to die so they can blame 9/11 entirely on them.

          Silverstein is getting up in age, maybe that’s one reason they picked him for the role he played, rather than some other Sayan.

          And then there’s Rafi Eitan, in his 80s I think…how much longer will he be around? And of course Ariel Sharon, in a persistent vegetative state, would be a natural blame receptacle.

          Of course these three “people” were probably involved, but at some point the collective will likely need to start naming specific “people” for exclusive responsibility.

          • Do we really know Sharon is in a vegetative state or is he really cavorting with a bevy of blond whores imported from Russia? He may be the most guilty of all and of course everyone “knows” he is in a coma and cannot talk.

            Mike

    • Michael J Volz

      Who would that be? (supersized bruce ivins). THEY WOULDNT SACRIFICE THEIR OWN DISHONEST ABE FUXMAN AT THE ALTER WOULD THEY? IF THEY WOULD DO THAT, I WOULD BE TEMPTED TO PRETEND TO BELIEVE THE STORY.

      MIKE

      • Sometimes for the Enterprise to survive, they would have to lose a shuttle craft.

        He may be alluding to the idea that a lot of Russians who ended up in Israel were so in kahoots with the KGB as to form a band of double agents within Mossad.

        • If there are any double agents around anywhere rest assured their first loyalty is, if not to Israel, then it is to Israeli organized crime (which of course includes the so called “russian mafia”.

          Anyone with a hint of Christianity in their makeup is but a babe in the woods. George Bush thought he was playing the jews but they were playing him Regardles of how much money he may have gotten out of it, they wiped their asses with him just as they will with Obama.

          Mike

          Mike

  33. Jews have always been persecuted. Israel provides abundant evidence of the causal Jewish behavior. Did German Jews achieve wealth and disproportionate political control as they have in the United States? Did they then collectively act to the detriment of other Germans and thereby precipitate the Holocaust? America’s multiple and continuing mid east wars have all been successfully promoted by AIPAC, the Conference of Presidents, and other Israeli agencies. All have benefited Israel at our expense. American Jews were central to, and grossly enriched by, the Wall Street obscenity. Israel is a Jewish state, a racist apartheid state, by, of, and for the chosen people. It feigns and exploits alliance but is never an ally.

    • Michael J Volz

      That’s why Norman Finkelstein says politely “the animus towards the jews is not irrational”. The less hyperbolic and less polite translation for that quote is: the hatred of the jews is justified and for damned good reason.

      BTW, how can a rogue nation have rogue intelligence people when it is rogue to begin with?

      Mike

      • A ‘rouge’ intelligence agency? I agree with you, Mike. This is just standard lying on the part of an intelligence agency. Israel wants us to come fight their colonial war. I sure hope Obama does not give in.

        • If you review the outing of Admiral Blair and his appointee Charles Freeman initiated by Israeli spy Steve Rosen you will have no hope in Obama until a military coupe either removes him from office or frees him from his puppeteers Axlerod and “rottenfish” Emanuel and sends him immediately to an intensive re eduction program. (mind control deprogramming). Obama unfortunately is a Manchurian Candidate.

          Mike

    • history underscores.

    • First off, you didn’t read the article. It says that the State of Israel is NOT involved with these rogue organizations, AND it implies that these rogue groups of “Mossad” operatives MIGHT NOT EVEN BE JEWISH. How confused are you,or are you a troll?

      Second, German Jews did not have “disproportionate wealth,” which I think is what you are implying, in 1935. They were broke like everyone else. In fact the main reason they became disliked is because they had been the town money keepers for hundreds of years, but with the Depression, they were unable to help other families when approached, because, like everyone else, they had been ruined by hyper inflation. The old system, where jews kept cash on hand in certain apartments of community buildings called “guts,” was blown to bits by the terms of the Treat of Versailles, and jews took a “disproportionate” bunch of rage from inflamed, uneducated Germans, who, after hundreds of years of just approaching the jewish families in the building for a 1% loan for their kid to go to college, suddenly, even the Jews couldn’t loan money. That led to intense anti-semitism in the States of Hesse and Bavaria, where Nazis originally got going.

      Jews didn’t “participate in the holocaust” by being successful. That’s noisome idiocy. The plain facts were these: Jews were barred by the Catholic church from owning land or marrying into gentile populations. They were, however, allowed to handle money and they were not banned from the professions. So, as a result of the breakdown of the church, they found a niche in the new practices of Law, which functions alongs the lines of reason, not religion, and Medicine, because, they thought foolishly, who would want to kill their doctor? The state, unfortunately, as a result of the industrial revolution, and the concentration of people in urban centers, exhalted just those professions as the cutting edge of science and society throughout the late 19th century. But, like all fads, people finally became disenchanted with results of lawyers and highly sought after and thus highly paid doctors. Since depressions rarely hurt doctors and lawyers, in Germany, Jews seemed to be doing well in certain professions. HOWEVER, most jews WERE NOT doctors and lawyers, they were broke LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.

      Israel may very well be a racist state, but comparing Israel to the facists states of Europe in the mid 20th century is absurd. Hitler’s war led to the obliteration of 100 MILLION lives. Not 1000, not 10,000. 100,000,000. Most cities of Europe were BURNING EMBERS. Half of the population of Jews on this planet were eliminated in 36 months! How can you compare this to a few 1000 deaths over a border dispute????

      How soon the apologists for Anti-semitism forget that up until 10 years ago, Egypt, Syria and Jordan were SOVIET PUPPET STATES and Israel was our only ally in the region. Maybe the writer also is unaware that in most of these societies surrounding Israel, women do not vote, cannot drive legally, cannot marry without parental permission and cannot be seen alone in public!

      • Owl,
        A couple of issues:
        The provision in the treaty for the repatriation of reichmarks held outside Germany..for gold…was seen as bringing the collapse of the currency. One of the current “revisionist” issues involves the complex ties between the early Nazi party and Zionists. It is said that a common ground was reached, pressure on Jews to emigrate, pressure placed on Jews by the Nazis and financial support from Jews for Hitler in return. With so little of what we get surviving the “smell check” this is an interesting theory. It is quite possible that more recent Zionist policies of organizaing anti-semitic activities in order to bring populations, France, North Africa, Iraq…etc…to Israel may have fostered these theories. Once a Jew burns a synagogue and screams “anti-semitism” we are now on the other side of the mirror.
        Thus, any accepted history is now relegated to theory unless reexamined. Russia, during the 80s, released many German documents meant to debunk the holocaust. This is where Zundel and others got their backing. Somewhere, in all of it, some truth may exist but we will never know it.
        g

        • even if, as you suggest, certain zionists, jewish or otherwise, “made a deal” with the Nazis, that still has little to do with the everyday lives of the six million jews living in Europe that were exterminated. Only a tiny percentage of jews were in the “controlling professions” like law and medicine. Most jews, like everyone else, were laborers, tradesmen and salesmen. Granted, the percentage of jews in the professions of law and medicine were high (64% of Berlin doctors before ww2 were jewish) but it can hardly be said that this was a “cause” of the holocaust. Jews were not contacted and asked “do you think the zionists with money should make a deal with Hitler?” What you are really referring to are the kind of jews that might identify themselves as “jews for jesus.” Yes, they were raised jewish, but, they do not speak for others, and they are making secret deals, not public ones supported by other jews.

          Once “a” jew does something has ZERO to do with why the holocaust occurred. The holocaust occurred not just for jews, but for Russians, Gypsies, Romanians, Poles, and one hundred other nations. Six million Russians also died in the camps. This idea that “the jews” are either responsible for, the only victim of, or the direct cause of the Holocaust are so idiotic that answering it seems almost foolish. Cambodia, Rwanda, China, Vietnam, all show that this is not a “german” issue, or a “jewish” one. It is a political issue that totalitarian nation states EXTERMINATE INTERNAL POPULATIONS. These populations are not “responsible” for their plight, and thinking they are is infantile. The holocaust was a practice run, and the Nazi Germans would have implemented their “solution” on all subject peoples, as they clearly intended to do with the ENTIRE SLAVIC RACE.

          • Abbas, the pro-Israeli moderate, enemy of Hamas, running Gaza did his doctorate on Zionism and the Holocaust. If you have not done this, visit Auschwitz and Dachau at least. Auschwitz is near Krakow, an excellent visit and Dachau is in a northern suburb of Munich. What is happening is that camp after camp is being reclassified from “death camp” to labor camp with death stats moving around, high numbers of Russians, much lower numbers of Jews.
            The numbers themselves wouldn’t be an issue. Murdering 100,000 people is a holocaust. Killing a child is a holocaust and, your point of bringing up poor jews is totally correct. The issue now is that the number, 6 million, one being attacked by kooks but also by serious scholars, is being used as a benchmark for suffering. Thus, Israel can kill 300,000 (a number we hear for palestinian deaths since 48…some higher) but until 6 million are killed…it doesn’t count.
            Israel has become a nation of accountants and no longer humanists. Check the short video…our young Israeli Nazi girl. Imagine her as your daughter. I would drive my car over a cliff.
            g

          • owl,
            back to auschwitz…walking the camps…and seeing the russian graves…
            what you can do is pull the area up on google earth…pro if you have it. there is something…..wrong.
            g

          • Hey, owl, I’m a history buff, so maybe you can explain why 150,000 Jews served in Hitler’s armed forces during WWII?

            http://www.bing.com/search?q=150%2C000+Jews+served+in+Hitler%27s+armed+forces&src=IE-SearchBox&FORM=IE8SRC

            Or how many died at Auschwitz? Because they original plaque said over 4 million, which was changed to 2.5 million in the 1990’s, and that was changed to a little over one million a couple of years ago.

            So if the number dropped from 4 million to one million, shouldn’t the numbers that died during the holocaust also drop by three million?

          • Michael J Volz

            The movie “Defamation” on the net is a must see!

            There is an amazing segment showing Abe Fuxman lecturing the Ukranian (I think) leaders that if they want him to use his influence in Washington DC for their benefit, they need to be careful to never mention any other holocaust in the same breath as the ONE TRUE HOLOCAUST OF THE CHOSEN ONES!

            Mike

          • Perhaps part of the problem is in the arithmetic and relative valuation of the lives. Someone said here that they are accountants (who must understand value).

            I have heard somewhere (perhaps out of “country “a”, in the Middle East) that all human lives do not have the same value. Also that some people’s finger nails are worth more than other peoples lives.

            Could that perhaps be the source of confusion over the correct numbers?

            I forgot what the multiple is: Could be:

            1 (orthodox/israeli)jew = 1 Gentile X 911? 666? 6? 12? 13? 77? (something like that).

            I remember something about the value of fingernails too!?

            Lets see:

            10 fingernails (9 in the case of Rahm Emanuel*)
            + 10 toenails X 911= 18,220 (or 18,219)Gentiles?

            Whatever the correct multiple, valuation and arithmetic could explain the numbers controversy perhaps? Sounds like the Bible doesn’t it? I will have to check with Jimmy Swiggert for the “truth”. Would Elmer Gantry know? Are these guys still alive?

            * Emanuel Sliced off one finger working at Arby’s; Someone said he would still be working there if the Mossad had not hired him. They recognized his genius. It takes a special kind of guy to send a dead fish to someone. (Arby’s didn’t sell fish back then).

            If only I were more Jewish I could figure this all out!

            Mike

          • There is no evidence that Hitler had a plan to exterminate the Jews or any race. You need to read the reports of the scholary revisionists. There is no evidence of people being gassed to death in the intern camps. There is actually scientific evidence that strongly indicates there were no gas chambers at the intern camps used to kill people.

            I have been wondering how this notion that Hitler gassed Jewish people to death was initiated. Perhaps soldiers discovered the corpses and found containers of Zyklon B and assumed that the evil Nazis used it to gas people to death. Actually the Zyklon B was used for delousing of clothes. Typhus was killing people in the camps and across Europe. I know it’s shocking that the Nazis were trying to prevent death in the camps. Even the anti-revisionists admit that Zyklon B had been used to prevent typhus. The prisoners died from starvation and disease.

            The Jews were placed in intern camps because Hitler was afraid some of them would be spies or commit sabotage against Germany since world wide Jewry declared an economic war against Germany in 1933 with the intent of destroying Germany. I have seen the quotes from Jewish leaders. They severely damaged the German economy which was highly dependent on exports.

          • And the Talmud does not confirm Jewish Hatred of Christians?

            Mike

          • One of my favorite lines from the Nuremberg trials was given by a Nazi. When asked when did he learn there was a plan to exterminate the Jews he said at this trial. I think he was telling the truth.

      • The notion that “rogue” groups of “Mossad” are conducting all kinds of intricate, apparently highly damaging operations completely independent of the “State of Israel” is laughably absurd on its face; either that or we need a radically new definition of what the “State of Israel” actually is.

        Your implication that Germans decided to start genociding Jews because Jews couldn’t lend them money is beyond pathetic.

        Lastly, Israel was never an “ally” of the “U.S.”; it is, was, and always will be the implacable foe of not just the U.S., but all of humanity.

        • Michael J Volz

          DITTO

          Deception has always been the favorite tool of the jews so naturally “by way of deception” would be the motto of the mossad. It has always been their way. It has been my experience that people who lie all the time often eventually wind up believing their own B.S. and the next step in their disease is sociopathy.

          They laugh amongst themselves about their propensity for duplicity but if I mention that I am an ugly “hater”.

          Wherever you go, deception is their favorite technique. They love gag orders and non disclosure agreements in lawsuit settlements. I know, I have been party to them.

          So it is just insane when jews come back and try to teach us the finer points of history when it is them who obfuscated so much in the first place.

          Thank God there are so many jews and people of jewish ancestry who have escaped the disease and insist on the truth.

          The New Testament says they are the sons of Satan who was a liar from the beginning. Jesus said the truth will set you free.

          Mike

          • Michael J Volz

            PS

            In a law suit settlement I was asked to agree that I would never mention that I had sued the party in the first place. That was an outrageous term I refused to agree to under any circumstances.

            According to people who have studied the talmud there is a paragraph promising death to any gentile who reads the talmud. They obviously don’t want goy to know what the talmud says.

            I never have had anyone claim that the talmud is a “forgery” though! (as they have with the “protocols”)

            Mike

    • Delusions of Persecution

      There is a big difference between gratuitious victimhood (not the jewish scenario) and legitimate, predictable BLOWBACK- and that is the cause of the jews “persecution” over the centuries. The garbage they are pulling here in our financial bailout fraud has been their hallmark in every nation they’ve been expelled from- along with assassinations and spying.

      Do the research. Its all there, but you may get arrested for knowing it.

      BTW- this quote is pure propaganda B.S: “There is absolutely no evidence that a rogue intelligence operation had contacted Israeli passport holders or given out any warning at all.”

      Israeli Haaretz and the official 911 account both unequivocably inform us that Odigo of Herzliya (headquarters of Israeli intel) sent out messages to their subscribers several HOURS BEFORE the WTC 911 attacks, warning of the danger.
      This cabal is guilty as charged.

    • This ludicrous “Evil Twin” defense for JudeoFascist Israel First fifth column traitors and their SERIAL treason is PREPOSTEROUS! Rogue, smogue. The “Jewish people” are TOTALLY responsible for ALL of the evil done by their various “units”, and with their FULL & OUTSPOKEN support. THEY will eventually be held to account. Heaven help these satanic swine in the coming and long overdue REAL HOLOCAUST. They must be shown the same mercy they have extended to their countless victims, in Palestine, throughout the Middle East and worldwide: NONE.
      Regards, Joe Boysen, Notorious Philosemite & LIFETIME friend of Bleeding Palestine. JoeBoysen2004@yahoo.com Remember the USS Liberty and the millions of the other victims of Jewish Supremacism from the very beginning. NEVER AGAIN.

    • UninformedLuddite

      Here’s an awfully good read. The most interesting part of reading this book for me was analysing my reactions during the first few chapters. I could actually tell I was having a reaction to what i was reading that wasn;t logical but a reaction brought about but my ‘training’. The Controversy of Zion(pdf format – right click and download as it is 300,000 words and a big book)

  34. A good friend of mine who was a retired US Naval Intellligence officer and who did extensive work with both the CIA and NSA and who was intimately involved in getting hte story of the USS LIBERTY out told me that the number of assets and agents killed as a result of Pollard’s treason was actually closer to 1,100. So much for the lie concerning our ‘close friendship’ with Israel.

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