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		<title>By: Chakib AZZI</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chakib AZZI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 07:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very pertinent article.

Deflation is already here.

In light of the latest published GDP growth rate (2Q) of 1.6%, a further discussion of the 3 solution options to induce growth is needed:

a) Inflate
[...Bernanke’s late mentor, Milton Friedman, theorized the Great Depression could have been prevented by sufficient monetary stimulus and so in 2008, faced with the possibility of another deflationary depression, Bernanke put Friedman’s theory to the test. Unfortunately, when tested, Friedman’s theory didn’t work. Despite Bernanke’s massive monetary expansion, global credit is still contracting and lending is drying up.

Inflating away debt is virtually impossible in the presence of deflation, but if U.S. monetary expansion is sufficiently large, it could result in the hyperinflation of the U.S. money supply, which would destroy both U.S. debt and the U.S. economy as well...]. 100% on the mark. Inflate wont work (technically e.g. from economic science).

c) Tax
[...Taxation is another option but is no longer available to the U.S., as its liabilities are now too high. It would be like forcing the elderly and morbidly obese to engage in strenuous exercise to regain youth...]. Also true. Tax wont work either(also technically e.g. from economic science).

b) Devalue
This is the only technically feasible solution (e.g based on economic science). However a big question: Is it politically feasible? Discussion:

Who stand to loose from it?
The very rich because their financial assets will be worth less and less. They will not even propose it.

The working class (but only in the short time) because with the massive import of everyday &#039;cheap&#039; goods from China, prices of these goods will increase, making the poor feel a little bit poorer. The current demagogues (e.g. populists) in Washington will not propose it.

Who stand to gain from it?
The thrifty middle class because, with already depleted savings, devaluation will not hurt their pockets anyway, and the ensuing real growth will then necessarily lead to more jobs and reduced unemployment, which will ultimately benefit everyone!

Points to make:
Point 1: It can be done. America is a democracy: Enlightened people and bold leaders should push for such a move, although initially painful for some.

Point 2: If not done, deflation will reign in. Americans will attach themselves to what they have now, but alas, will not have more than what they have now. This will not be America!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very pertinent article.</p>
<p>Deflation is already here.</p>
<p>In light of the latest published GDP growth rate (2Q) of 1.6%, a further discussion of the 3 solution options to induce growth is needed:</p>
<p>a) Inflate<br />
[...Bernanke’s late mentor, Milton Friedman, theorized the Great Depression could have been prevented by sufficient monetary stimulus and so in 2008, faced with the possibility of another deflationary depression, Bernanke put Friedman’s theory to the test. Unfortunately, when tested, Friedman’s theory didn’t work. Despite Bernanke’s massive monetary expansion, global credit is still contracting and lending is drying up.</p>
<p>Inflating away debt is virtually impossible in the presence of deflation, but if U.S. monetary expansion is sufficiently large, it could result in the hyperinflation of the U.S. money supply, which would destroy both U.S. debt and the U.S. economy as well...]. 100% on the mark. Inflate wont work (technically e.g. from economic science).</p>
<p>c) Tax<br />
[...Taxation is another option but is no longer available to the U.S., as its liabilities are now too high. It would be like forcing the elderly and morbidly obese to engage in strenuous exercise to regain youth...]. Also true. Tax wont work either(also technically e.g. from economic science).</p>
<p>b) Devalue<br />
This is the only technically feasible solution (e.g based on economic science). However a big question: Is it politically feasible? Discussion:</p>
<p>Who stand to loose from it?<br />
The very rich because their financial assets will be worth less and less. They will not even propose it.</p>
<p>The working class (but only in the short time) because with the massive import of everyday &#8216;cheap&#8217; goods from China, prices of these goods will increase, making the poor feel a little bit poorer. The current demagogues (e.g. populists) in Washington will not propose it.</p>
<p>Who stand to gain from it?<br />
The thrifty middle class because, with already depleted savings, devaluation will not hurt their pockets anyway, and the ensuing real growth will then necessarily lead to more jobs and reduced unemployment, which will ultimately benefit everyone!</p>
<p>Points to make:<br />
Point 1: It can be done. America is a democracy: Enlightened people and bold leaders should push for such a move, although initially painful for some.</p>
<p>Point 2: If not done, deflation will reign in. Americans will attach themselves to what they have now, but alas, will not have more than what they have now. This will not be America!</p>
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		<title>By: Just A Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just A Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time to get a 2nd passport and hunker down, get off the grid,...In a nice south american country</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time to get a 2nd passport and hunker down, get off the grid,&#8230;In a nice south american country</p>
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		<title>By: It&#8217;s Beginning To Look A Lot Like 1930 &#124; 1913 Intel</title>
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		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s Beginning To Look A Lot Like 1930 &#124; 1913 Intel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 04:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] *Lorimer Wilson: &#8220;The U.S. Is On The Edge Of A Growing Deflationary Sinkhole&#8221; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Houston Rao</title>
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		<dc:creator>Houston Rao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken, you are right and wrong.  Deflation, as you pointed out, is when money supply is contracting.  But &#039;money supply&#039; in its broadest measure includes credit, not just currency printed or created.  The $2 trillion handed out to the banksters is a drop in the ocean of worldwide debt.  Credit supply is shrinking faster than Ben can print, so money supply is contracting.  

Indeed, US M3 money supply is currently shrinking at 1930&#039;s pace.  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/7769126/US-money-supply-plunges-at-1930s-pace-as-Obama-eyes-fresh-stimulus.html.

Also, note that the Fed has not significantly increased primary money supply, its base of physical currency has stayed quite stable.  Instead, it has &#039;credited&#039; the bankster&#039;s accounts with virtual money in return for collateral.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken, you are right and wrong.  Deflation, as you pointed out, is when money supply is contracting.  But &#8216;money supply&#8217; in its broadest measure includes credit, not just currency printed or created.  The $2 trillion handed out to the banksters is a drop in the ocean of worldwide debt.  Credit supply is shrinking faster than Ben can print, so money supply is contracting.  </p>
<p>Indeed, US M3 money supply is currently shrinking at 1930&#8242;s pace.  <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/7769126/US-money-supply-plunges-at-1930s-pace-as-Obama-eyes-fresh-stimulus.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/7769126/US-money-supply-plunges-at-1930s-pace-as-Obama-eyes-fresh-stimulus.html</a>.</p>
<p>Also, note that the Fed has not significantly increased primary money supply, its base of physical currency has stayed quite stable.  Instead, it has &#8216;credited&#8217; the bankster&#8217;s accounts with virtual money in return for collateral.</p>
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		<title>By: Credit Crunch 2010: Kreditkrise zermalmt US-Wirtschaft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Credit Crunch 2010: Kreditkrise zermalmt US-Wirtschaft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Wilson beschreibt in seinem jüngsten Artikel mit dem Titel „Die USA am Rande eines wachsenden Deflationsschlundes“ auf sehr gute Art und Weise, wie die ganzen Schulden zu dem Fiasko führten, in dem wir uns nun [...]</description>
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		<title>By: steve davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just look at the post office.  It goes broke yearly and get a bail out every year.  They are regulated by congress, and their business model is bankruptcy yearly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just look at the post office.  It goes broke yearly and get a bail out every year.  They are regulated by congress, and their business model is bankruptcy yearly.</p>
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		<title>By: steve davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What has created the mess is the USA abandonment of its Constitutional requirement of having gold as money.  It is hard to steal everyone&#039;s wealth when you have to take their physical gold.  Make the money fiat and you can rob everyone of their money with a few mouse clicks or emails from the Fed. 

Honest money produces honest people, corrupt money produces corrupt people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What has created the mess is the USA abandonment of its Constitutional requirement of having gold as money.  It is hard to steal everyone&#8217;s wealth when you have to take their physical gold.  Make the money fiat and you can rob everyone of their money with a few mouse clicks or emails from the Fed. </p>
<p>Honest money produces honest people, corrupt money produces corrupt people.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Jacobsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Jacobsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 15:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill, right on! Keep spreading the word and someday someone will blow up their tv and actually start thinking. Then maybe we can elect some real leaders, not the ones the mainstream media tell us to.
Good job.
Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, right on! Keep spreading the word and someday someone will blow up their tv and actually start thinking. Then maybe we can elect some real leaders, not the ones the mainstream media tell us to.<br />
Good job.<br />
Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Mihail</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mihail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 13:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have to tank the jewish devil for the mess America is in.We know that in Revelation 2:9,,3:9 Bible call those converted KHAZARS(THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN).
America is on way to hell brought to you by the chosen people of satan,enjoy the ride you pay with your money.
www.realzionistnews.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to tank the jewish devil for the mess America is in.We know that in Revelation 2:9,,3:9 Bible call those converted KHAZARS(THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN).<br />
America is on way to hell brought to you by the chosen people of satan,enjoy the ride you pay with your money.<br />
<a href="http://www.realzionistnews.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.realzionistnews.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Survivalist Forum &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The U.S. Is On The Edge Of A Growing Deflationary Sinkhole</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Survivalist Forum &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The U.S. Is On The Edge Of A Growing Deflationary Sinkhole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 06:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 03:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WE;ALL OF US;NEED TO INVEST IN SAUGAGE;IT&#039;S OUR ONLY HOPE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WE;ALL OF US;NEED TO INVEST IN SAUGAGE;IT&#8217;S OUR ONLY HOPE.</p>
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		<title>By: Anadianant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anadianant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 03:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually &quot;stimulating&quot; the demand side is THE problem.

In a natural, organic system, supply and demand find a moving but relatively stable equation.

In our current world, the supply side has overbuilt and the demand side is dying.

I&#039;m afraid we are in a lose-lose situation. Much pain to come.

Hang on to your hats indeed.

Anadianant

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually &#8220;stimulating&#8221; the demand side is THE problem.</p>
<p>In a natural, organic system, supply and demand find a moving but relatively stable equation.</p>
<p>In our current world, the supply side has overbuilt and the demand side is dying.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid we are in a lose-lose situation. Much pain to come.</p>
<p>Hang on to your hats indeed.</p>
<p>Anadianant</p>
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		<title>By: Italics Mine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Italics Mine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 03:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought smokers were responsible for everything that went wrong.</description>
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		<title>By: Edwin Vieira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edwin Vieira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 03:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, left out of the analysis is the possibility of direct governmental injection of new currency into the economy by the emission and spending of &quot;Greenbacks&quot; (of the form first emitted in 1862) by the U.S. Treasury. Such emissions will not need any lending by the banks to make their effect felt. This is not a constitutional solution to the problem, nor a viable economic one. But, politically, it is probably the route that will be taken, inasmuch as a deflationary depression will create intense social dislocations the ultimate consequences of which cannot be predicted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, left out of the analysis is the possibility of direct governmental injection of new currency into the economy by the emission and spending of &#8220;Greenbacks&#8221; (of the form first emitted in 1862) by the U.S. Treasury. Such emissions will not need any lending by the banks to make their effect felt. This is not a constitutional solution to the problem, nor a viable economic one. But, politically, it is probably the route that will be taken, inasmuch as a deflationary depression will create intense social dislocations the ultimate consequences of which cannot be predicted.</p>
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		<title>By: Italics Mine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Italics Mine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 03:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And just wait til they get their grubby mitts on Healthcare.</description>
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		<title>By: Don Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 03:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The money is not trickling down to the little people, it is being held in reserve, hence no inflation&quot;

Mark Savatar is nearly right! although how you can hold heavily created and therefore borrowed money in Reserve is only a trick the big boys can do.
The money being created (printed) is being &quot;spent&quot; by the large corporations that were mostly bankrupt and was used to shore up a plethora of financial instruments and deals , not real &quot;spending&quot; as you and I know it.
This spending was not inflationary! But if the inevitable happened and this money filtered through and started appearing on main street , that would be inflationary.
To negate the effect of this happening , which it eventually would , the banking system for a  number of  years now  has gently  restricted the Growth of M0 and M1 , so called &quot;Main Street Money&quot; the only money maybe 70-80% of the population have access to or interest in! 
Meanwhile M2 and M3 have been heading for the Stratosphere , and in the case of M3 (includes Big Corp money etc) its increase was so embarrassing that the Fed stopped reporting the figure in 2006 although it still reports on M0 , M1 and M2. 
This is one of the methods being used to restrict and control inflation , the real enemy of the working class. Unfortunately it has horrible side effects, unemployment from the decrease in spending and vice-versa ,  and the inability of Companies to grow or improve through scarcity (through increased collateral requirements) of Capital (except the Motor Industry of course) , let alone the drop of spending in the Working Economy which negates any reason for a Company to grow or increase production in the short to medium term (I believe it will be a Long Medium term 5-8 years)unless an unforseen factor arises to increase demand (WAR)!.Low wage increases ,lower wages overall and a continuing collapse in Housing Values (Myth:House prices are real Money!) will carry on unabated as the people that really produce wealth in this country pay off the debts that the Wealthy Financial class have created on behalf of them. 
The sinking in the economy will continue and unlike some people who predict Armageddon,  I say America will carry on with one change, everybody will be poorer, except the Wealthy Financial class of course .
 And while the Federal Reserve and the 12 Banks remain in Financial Power , as they assuredly are , there is no way out.
And there is the main problem, money always flows towards where the greatest accumulation of money is (because of interest), a bit like mass and gravity , from the poor to the rich. Maybe there is nothing wrong with this ,maybe this adds excitement to our lives? What if we all had the same amount of money and started anew what would happen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The money is not trickling down to the little people, it is being held in reserve, hence no inflation&#8221;</p>
<p>Mark Savatar is nearly right! although how you can hold heavily created and therefore borrowed money in Reserve is only a trick the big boys can do.<br />
The money being created (printed) is being &#8220;spent&#8221; by the large corporations that were mostly bankrupt and was used to shore up a plethora of financial instruments and deals , not real &#8220;spending&#8221; as you and I know it.<br />
This spending was not inflationary! But if the inevitable happened and this money filtered through and started appearing on main street , that would be inflationary.<br />
To negate the effect of this happening , which it eventually would , the banking system for a  number of  years now  has gently  restricted the Growth of M0 and M1 , so called &#8220;Main Street Money&#8221; the only money maybe 70-80% of the population have access to or interest in!<br />
Meanwhile M2 and M3 have been heading for the Stratosphere , and in the case of M3 (includes Big Corp money etc) its increase was so embarrassing that the Fed stopped reporting the figure in 2006 although it still reports on M0 , M1 and M2.<br />
This is one of the methods being used to restrict and control inflation , the real enemy of the working class. Unfortunately it has horrible side effects, unemployment from the decrease in spending and vice-versa ,  and the inability of Companies to grow or improve through scarcity (through increased collateral requirements) of Capital (except the Motor Industry of course) , let alone the drop of spending in the Working Economy which negates any reason for a Company to grow or increase production in the short to medium term (I believe it will be a Long Medium term 5-8 years)unless an unforseen factor arises to increase demand (WAR)!.Low wage increases ,lower wages overall and a continuing collapse in Housing Values (Myth:House prices are real Money!) will carry on unabated as the people that really produce wealth in this country pay off the debts that the Wealthy Financial class have created on behalf of them.<br />
The sinking in the economy will continue and unlike some people who predict Armageddon,  I say America will carry on with one change, everybody will be poorer, except the Wealthy Financial class of course .<br />
 And while the Federal Reserve and the 12 Banks remain in Financial Power , as they assuredly are , there is no way out.<br />
And there is the main problem, money always flows towards where the greatest accumulation of money is (because of interest), a bit like mass and gravity , from the poor to the rich. Maybe there is nothing wrong with this ,maybe this adds excitement to our lives? What if we all had the same amount of money and started anew what would happen?</p>
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		<title>By: William Whitten</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Whitten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 02:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well...to tell you the truth, we blew it in the 60s when the powers that be gave in on Vietnam, and the huge peace movement didn&#039;t keep on going to abolish the illegitimate so-called &quot;federal government&quot;--but instead went home shaved their beards, cut their hair and said, &quot;yippie&quot;.

It is said that &quot;In a democracy you get the government you deserve&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;to tell you the truth, we blew it in the 60s when the powers that be gave in on Vietnam, and the huge peace movement didn&#8217;t keep on going to abolish the illegitimate so-called &#8220;federal government&#8221;&#8211;but instead went home shaved their beards, cut their hair and said, &#8220;yippie&#8221;.</p>
<p>It is said that &#8220;In a democracy you get the government you deserve&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 01:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hyperinflation is a currency event not an economic inflation event your use to. In hyperinflation it is a distrust in the management of the currency itself. Hence Still inflation by default yet with poor business conditions. We don&#039;t have all the reosources. China has bought them all along with major economic alliances with Canada, AU, Africa and now Europe. We are busy running up trillion dollar bills with the Pentagon. Real inflation already exist if you own a car, home and have children. Check you wallet latley on taxes, insurance food energy etc? Those prices have gone up not down in USD&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hyperinflation is a currency event not an economic inflation event your use to. In hyperinflation it is a distrust in the management of the currency itself. Hence Still inflation by default yet with poor business conditions. We don&#8217;t have all the reosources. China has bought them all along with major economic alliances with Canada, AU, Africa and now Europe. We are busy running up trillion dollar bills with the Pentagon. Real inflation already exist if you own a car, home and have children. Check you wallet latley on taxes, insurance food energy etc? Those prices have gone up not down in USD&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 01:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Unregulated greed&quot;?
Fannie Mae &amp; Freddie Mac are government entities that had all of the &quot;regulations&quot; built into any bureaucracy but they lent $300K to waitresses for homes.
In real life,private banks would never have done so since they are regulated by reality of losing their asses if they screw up!
Moreover,banks were ordered by bureaucrats like Barney Frank to loan money to unworthy borrowers,then surprise!,they defaulted.
Government entities don&#039;t have such concerns,in fact,they can&#039;t go broke because we can be compelled to bail them out (like we did). 
The real esteate mess,like the war on drugs,the Iraq war,Afghanistan,Israeli atrocities,public schools,the DMV,the post office &amp; AMTRAK is the result of inept government meddling,not &quot;corporate greed&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Unregulated greed&#8221;?<br />
Fannie Mae &amp; Freddie Mac are government entities that had all of the &#8220;regulations&#8221; built into any bureaucracy but they lent $300K to waitresses for homes.<br />
In real life,private banks would never have done so since they are regulated by reality of losing their asses if they screw up!<br />
Moreover,banks were ordered by bureaucrats like Barney Frank to loan money to unworthy borrowers,then surprise!,they defaulted.<br />
Government entities don&#8217;t have such concerns,in fact,they can&#8217;t go broke because we can be compelled to bail them out (like we did).<br />
The real esteate mess,like the war on drugs,the Iraq war,Afghanistan,Israeli atrocities,public schools,the DMV,the post office &amp; AMTRAK is the result of inept government meddling,not &#8220;corporate greed&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 01:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right. It is the duty of the citizens to throw off a tyrannical government and constitute a new one suitable to the people.

You&#039;re right about the rest of it, too. Including the USS Liberty, deliberately attacked by Israeli forces in a failed false-flag operation. 

Let us not forget Rachel Corrie. Let us hope a thousand ships named Rachel Corrie ply the eastern Mediterranean in full view of Gaza.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right. It is the duty of the citizens to throw off a tyrannical government and constitute a new one suitable to the people.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right about the rest of it, too. Including the USS Liberty, deliberately attacked by Israeli forces in a failed false-flag operation. </p>
<p>Let us not forget Rachel Corrie. Let us hope a thousand ships named Rachel Corrie ply the eastern Mediterranean in full view of Gaza.</p>
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