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		<title>By: Archibald Titus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Archibald Titus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 08:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget that controlling comment areas of news sites is part of controlling the press:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article693911.ece

The Israeli Foreign Ministry set up a internet alert program to notify thousands of Jews across the world whenever a major website posts an article about Israel, so they can jump in and dominate the discussions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget that controlling comment areas of news sites is part of controlling the press:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article693911.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article693911.ece</a></p>
<p>The Israeli Foreign Ministry set up a internet alert program to notify thousands of Jews across the world whenever a major website posts an article about Israel, so they can jump in and dominate the discussions.</p>
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		<title>By: little guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>little guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 03:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Jeff Gates: I&#039;m sure you&#039;ve seen this by now... http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5g6Y8m_33xEElqP68K5PAcKZ6KGng

The Jews trying to stir up racial tensions, no doubt...people never seem to care if the perpetrator is Jewish, all they see is a &quot;white guy&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jeff Gates: I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve seen this by now&#8230; <a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5g6Y8m_33xEElqP68K5PAcKZ6KGng" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5g6Y8m_33xEElqP68K5PAcKZ6KGng</a></p>
<p>The Jews trying to stir up racial tensions, no doubt&#8230;people never seem to care if the perpetrator is Jewish, all they see is a &#8220;white guy&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Louise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 08:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason that the oil could not be seen was because of all of the toxic chemicals used to get rid of what was on the surface of the water. The chemicals destroyed the oil on the surface but there would have been millions of gallons under the water.

Even the British Gov admitted it let off the guy jailed for the Lockerbie bombing because BP asked them to. No doubt it was part of a deal with Libya.

China has been cuddling up to Libya for years which is why Britain did the deal.

And yes the guy convicted of the Lockerbie bombing was probably just a patsy. It was a good excuse for sanction against Libya to take their nukes off them.

BP will not get taken over, it is sellng a few oil fields and getting more investors but it will survive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason that the oil could not be seen was because of all of the toxic chemicals used to get rid of what was on the surface of the water. The chemicals destroyed the oil on the surface but there would have been millions of gallons under the water.</p>
<p>Even the British Gov admitted it let off the guy jailed for the Lockerbie bombing because BP asked them to. No doubt it was part of a deal with Libya.</p>
<p>China has been cuddling up to Libya for years which is why Britain did the deal.</p>
<p>And yes the guy convicted of the Lockerbie bombing was probably just a patsy. It was a good excuse for sanction against Libya to take their nukes off them.</p>
<p>BP will not get taken over, it is sellng a few oil fields and getting more investors but it will survive.</p>
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		<title>By: Republicans in the US House of Representatives want Israel to attack Iran &#171; Did You Know</title>
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		<dc:creator>Republicans in the US House of Representatives want Israel to attack Iran &#171; Did You Know</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 05:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] That fateful decision must be revisited in light of what can now be proven about the “how” of this ongoing duplicity—unless Americans want to continue to be played for the fool. Source [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] That fateful decision must be revisited in light of what can now be proven about the “how” of this ongoing duplicity—unless Americans want to continue to be played for the fool. Source [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dub</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The plot:

Exxon does not have enough oil fields.

(Is Exxon Mobil&#039;s future running dry? - MSN Money / Exxon Reserves - WSJ.com)

Reportedly, Exxon wants to take over BP.

Allegedly, sabotage takes place.

The BP share price drops and BP becomes a takeover target.

To further hurt BP, the US blames BP for the release of the innocent Megrahi.

Reportedly, the evidence in the Lockerbie trial was faked to cover up &#039;alleged&#039; CIA drug smuggling involving Monzer al Kassar.

The drug smuggling was to have been revealed by Major Charles McKee and his team who were travelling on PanAm 103 with their evidence.

The oil spill story may have been exaggerated?

Around 750 boats drafted in to scoop up oil from the Gulf of Mexico are having &#039;trouble&#039; finding any crude in the sea, a top US official has said.

&quot;We are starting to have trouble finding oil,&quot; US pointman Admiral Thad Allen, who is in charge of handling the government&#039;s response, told reporters.

The boats are &quot;really having to search for the oil in some cases&quot; around the area of the capped well, he added. (AFP: Gulf boats having trouble finding any oil: US official)

(Thanks to Dublin Mick for the link) 

The USA is angry that BP is to drill for oil off the coast of Libya. (BP to begin deep-water drilling off coast of Libya)

If Exxon takes over BP, Exxon gets more oil, including that off the coast of Libya.
In 1975, the CIA&#039;s Philip Agee testified that he had conducted personal name checks of employees for a subsidiary of what is now Exxon.

Exxon was &quot;letting the CIA assist in employment decisions, and my guess is that those name checks...are continuing to this day.&quot; (Philip Agee - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The plot:</p>
<p>Exxon does not have enough oil fields.</p>
<p>(Is Exxon Mobil&#8217;s future running dry? &#8211; MSN Money / Exxon Reserves &#8211; WSJ.com)</p>
<p>Reportedly, Exxon wants to take over BP.</p>
<p>Allegedly, sabotage takes place.</p>
<p>The BP share price drops and BP becomes a takeover target.</p>
<p>To further hurt BP, the US blames BP for the release of the innocent Megrahi.</p>
<p>Reportedly, the evidence in the Lockerbie trial was faked to cover up &#8216;alleged&#8217; CIA drug smuggling involving Monzer al Kassar.</p>
<p>The drug smuggling was to have been revealed by Major Charles McKee and his team who were travelling on PanAm 103 with their evidence.</p>
<p>The oil spill story may have been exaggerated?</p>
<p>Around 750 boats drafted in to scoop up oil from the Gulf of Mexico are having &#8216;trouble&#8217; finding any crude in the sea, a top US official has said.</p>
<p>&#8220;We are starting to have trouble finding oil,&#8221; US pointman Admiral Thad Allen, who is in charge of handling the government&#8217;s response, told reporters.</p>
<p>The boats are &#8220;really having to search for the oil in some cases&#8221; around the area of the capped well, he added. (AFP: Gulf boats having trouble finding any oil: US official)</p>
<p>(Thanks to Dublin Mick for the link) </p>
<p>The USA is angry that BP is to drill for oil off the coast of Libya. (BP to begin deep-water drilling off coast of Libya)</p>
<p>If Exxon takes over BP, Exxon gets more oil, including that off the coast of Libya.<br />
In 1975, the CIA&#8217;s Philip Agee testified that he had conducted personal name checks of employees for a subsidiary of what is now Exxon.</p>
<p>Exxon was &#8220;letting the CIA assist in employment decisions, and my guess is that those name checks&#8230;are continuing to this day.&#8221; (Philip Agee &#8211; Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)</p>
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		<title>By: K. Rechtstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>K. Rechtstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely correct Jameson, neither Eisenhower, de Gaulle, nor Churcill mention in their memoirs any gas chamber-crematorium or even the word &quot;holocaust&quot;. The same applies for the International Red Cross.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely correct Jameson, neither Eisenhower, de Gaulle, nor Churcill mention in their memoirs any gas chamber-crematorium or even the word &#8220;holocaust&#8221;. The same applies for the International Red Cross.</p>
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		<title>By: K. Rechtstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>K. Rechtstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Penumbra, you are absolutely right (response to Carpenter). The trend has been putting Jews at the top of every National Bank worldwide. Until president Chavez took over in Venezuela, the presidents of the BCV was Ruth de Krivoy, of FOGADE (F D G) was Esther de Margoulis, of the journalists guild-union was Benshimol &#039;n the person in charge of cultural affairs, Sofia Ember, all Jewish-Israel firsters. In Denmark, appointed by the Queen, the president of the Danish National Bank, Niels Bernstein, is Jewish...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Penumbra, you are absolutely right (response to Carpenter). The trend has been putting Jews at the top of every National Bank worldwide. Until president Chavez took over in Venezuela, the presidents of the BCV was Ruth de Krivoy, of FOGADE (F D G) was Esther de Margoulis, of the journalists guild-union was Benshimol &#8216;n the person in charge of cultural affairs, Sofia Ember, all Jewish-Israel firsters. In Denmark, appointed by the Queen, the president of the Danish National Bank, Niels Bernstein, is Jewish&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MONDOWEISS ONLINE NEWSLETTER&#160;&#124;&#160;Shoah</title>
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		<dc:creator>MONDOWEISS ONLINE NEWSLETTER&#160;&#124;&#160;Shoah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] divestment from the occupation http://mondoweiss.net/2010/07/israel-on-tisha-bav-2010.html  Israeli Operatives in the U.S.,  Jeff Gates A long misinformed public lacks the tools to grasp how they are being deceived. Without those [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] divestment from the occupation <a href="http://mondoweiss.net/2010/07/israel-on-tisha-bav-2010.html" rel="nofollow">http://mondoweiss.net/2010/07/israel-on-tisha-bav-2010.html</a>  Israeli Operatives in the U.S.,  Jeff Gates A long misinformed public lacks the tools to grasp how they are being deceived. Without those [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dub</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had to change computers to even post here again. We will see how long it lasts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to change computers to even post here again. We will see how long it lasts.</p>
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		<title>By: Jameson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jameson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 09:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The politically incorrect six million

Alexandr Solzhenitsyn had this to say of the Soviet system which was deemed worthy of recognition as one of &#039;our&#039; Allies fighting for ‘Democracy&#039;, ‘against the Dictators&#039; in WW2: 

&quot;This was a system which, in time of peace, artificially created a famine causing SIX MILLION PERSONS to die in the Ukraine between 1932 and 1933. SIX MILLION PERSONS!&quot;
(Alexander Solzhenitsyn Speaks to the West (1978) p16)

FDRoosevelt’s ally Stalin was the supreme dictator of Russia for almost a quarter of a century, 1929-1953. 

Stalin&#039;s first Five-Year Plan (1928-32) sought the &#039;collectivization of agriculture&#039; through the &#039;abolition of property in land&#039; put forward in (Jewish) Karl Marx&#039;s Communist Manifesto. Before the Revolution millions of independent peasant farmers, or kulaks, had their own individual plots. 

When Communism was imposed on Russia, the kulaks as private property owners stood in the way. In 1929 Stalin called for their ‘liquidation’, and their small family farms, animals, implements and crops were declared to belong to the state. 

“The (Jewish) communist leaders Trotsky, Zinoviev and Kamenev had always argued that the peasant would never surrender enough food voluntarily, and must be coerced and, if need be, crushed&quot; (*Paul Johnson A History of the Modern World p268). 

The Red Army and GPU were used to implement the policy. Many thousands of peasants who resisted were killed or sent to the frozen north or the desert steppes. Rather than give up their animals to the collective farms, the peasants killed and ate them. As a result, the number of farm animals in the Soviet Union was catastrophically reduced.

The peasants stopped farming on ground that suddenly no longer belonged to them. Food production declined drastically and cities started running out of food. Orders were given for grain to be confiscated from the peasants, whether they had sufficient for themselves and their families or not. Those caught trying to reserve food for their families were ‘severely dealt with’. By the winter of 1932-3, virtually no food was left in the countryside. By early March 1933, &#039;death on a mass scale really began&#039; (R Conquest, The Harvest of Sorrow (1986) p243). The main farming areas of Russia, in the regions of the Ukraine and North Caucasus, were devastated. Millions of people were forced to eat anything that was available. It was a time of terrible hunger, a catastrophic famine.

Eugene Lyons was sent to Russia in 1928 as chief correspondent for United Press. He described the famine in his book Assignment in Utopia (1937):

&quot;Hell broke loose in seventy thousand Russian villages.. A population as large as all of Switzerland&#039;s or Denmark&#039;s was stripped clean of all their belongings.. They were herded with bayonets at railroad stations, packed indiscriminately into cattle and freight cars and dumped weeks later in the lumber regions of the frozen North, the deserts of central Asia, wherever labor was needed, there to live or die..&quot;. The famine alone is estimated conservatively to have been responsible for 6 million deaths, almost half of them children (Conquest, p 303-4). Other millions died from the killings and sickness as a result of the deportations (*p 304-7). 

Lyons, himself Jewish, credits the Jewish commissar Lazar Kaganovich with the major portion of responsibility for this major crime against humanity:

&quot;Lazar Kaganovich… it was his mind that invented the Political Departments to lead collectivized agriculture, his iron hand that applied Bolshevik mercilessness.&quot; (*Lyons, p 578). The Encycl. Brit. says tersely, &quot;(Kaganovich) was one of the small group of Stalin&#039;s top advisors pushing for very high rates of collectivization after 1929.. Within the Politburo, Kaganovich.. led the opposition to Kirov&#039;s proposed concessions to the peasantry and to his attempts to relax the harshness of Stalin&#039;s control..” 

Kaganovich died at the ripe old age of 98 in 1991 - ethnically safe from pursuit by the Israeli secret service, the Simon Wiesenthal organization and the New York media-intelligentsia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The politically incorrect six million</p>
<p>Alexandr Solzhenitsyn had this to say of the Soviet system which was deemed worthy of recognition as one of &#8216;our&#8217; Allies fighting for ‘Democracy&#8217;, ‘against the Dictators&#8217; in WW2: </p>
<p>&#8220;This was a system which, in time of peace, artificially created a famine causing SIX MILLION PERSONS to die in the Ukraine between 1932 and 1933. SIX MILLION PERSONS!&#8221;<br />
(Alexander Solzhenitsyn Speaks to the West (1978) p16)</p>
<p>FDRoosevelt’s ally Stalin was the supreme dictator of Russia for almost a quarter of a century, 1929-1953. </p>
<p>Stalin&#8217;s first Five-Year Plan (1928-32) sought the &#8216;collectivization of agriculture&#8217; through the &#8216;abolition of property in land&#8217; put forward in (Jewish) Karl Marx&#8217;s Communist Manifesto. Before the Revolution millions of independent peasant farmers, or kulaks, had their own individual plots. </p>
<p>When Communism was imposed on Russia, the kulaks as private property owners stood in the way. In 1929 Stalin called for their ‘liquidation’, and their small family farms, animals, implements and crops were declared to belong to the state. </p>
<p>“The (Jewish) communist leaders Trotsky, Zinoviev and Kamenev had always argued that the peasant would never surrender enough food voluntarily, and must be coerced and, if need be, crushed&#8221; (*Paul Johnson A History of the Modern World p268). </p>
<p>The Red Army and GPU were used to implement the policy. Many thousands of peasants who resisted were killed or sent to the frozen north or the desert steppes. Rather than give up their animals to the collective farms, the peasants killed and ate them. As a result, the number of farm animals in the Soviet Union was catastrophically reduced.</p>
<p>The peasants stopped farming on ground that suddenly no longer belonged to them. Food production declined drastically and cities started running out of food. Orders were given for grain to be confiscated from the peasants, whether they had sufficient for themselves and their families or not. Those caught trying to reserve food for their families were ‘severely dealt with’. By the winter of 1932-3, virtually no food was left in the countryside. By early March 1933, &#8216;death on a mass scale really began&#8217; (R Conquest, The Harvest of Sorrow (1986) p243). The main farming areas of Russia, in the regions of the Ukraine and North Caucasus, were devastated. Millions of people were forced to eat anything that was available. It was a time of terrible hunger, a catastrophic famine.</p>
<p>Eugene Lyons was sent to Russia in 1928 as chief correspondent for United Press. He described the famine in his book Assignment in Utopia (1937):</p>
<p>&#8220;Hell broke loose in seventy thousand Russian villages.. A population as large as all of Switzerland&#8217;s or Denmark&#8217;s was stripped clean of all their belongings.. They were herded with bayonets at railroad stations, packed indiscriminately into cattle and freight cars and dumped weeks later in the lumber regions of the frozen North, the deserts of central Asia, wherever labor was needed, there to live or die..&#8221;. The famine alone is estimated conservatively to have been responsible for 6 million deaths, almost half of them children (Conquest, p 303-4). Other millions died from the killings and sickness as a result of the deportations (*p 304-7). </p>
<p>Lyons, himself Jewish, credits the Jewish commissar Lazar Kaganovich with the major portion of responsibility for this major crime against humanity:</p>
<p>&#8220;Lazar Kaganovich… it was his mind that invented the Political Departments to lead collectivized agriculture, his iron hand that applied Bolshevik mercilessness.&#8221; (*Lyons, p 578). The Encycl. Brit. says tersely, &#8220;(Kaganovich) was one of the small group of Stalin&#8217;s top advisors pushing for very high rates of collectivization after 1929.. Within the Politburo, Kaganovich.. led the opposition to Kirov&#8217;s proposed concessions to the peasantry and to his attempts to relax the harshness of Stalin&#8217;s control..” </p>
<p>Kaganovich died at the ripe old age of 98 in 1991 &#8211; ethnically safe from pursuit by the Israeli secret service, the Simon Wiesenthal organization and the New York media-intelligentsia.</p>
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		<title>By: andie531</title>
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		<dc:creator>andie531</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have published articles on the fact that the &quot;Dancing Israelis&quot; are still in the US and still operating &quot;front&quot; businesses.  My latest article is here
http://mybigfatanti-zionistlife.blogspot.com/2010/06/from-union-to-scab-labor-at-world-trade.html

Links to other posts on sayanim are at the bottom of that one.  

The stuff on the Dancing Israelis is not difficult to drudge up - it&#039;s all information in the public domain, available to anyone.  The FBI is either sleeping on the job or just doesn&#039;t care.  I suspect they are in the clutches of the Mossad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have published articles on the fact that the &#8220;Dancing Israelis&#8221; are still in the US and still operating &#8220;front&#8221; businesses.  My latest article is here<br />
<a href="http://mybigfatanti-zionistlife.blogspot.com/2010/06/from-union-to-scab-labor-at-world-trade.html" rel="nofollow">http://mybigfatanti-zionistlife.blogspot.com/2010/06/from-union-to-scab-labor-at-world-trade.html</a></p>
<p>Links to other posts on sayanim are at the bottom of that one.  </p>
<p>The stuff on the Dancing Israelis is not difficult to drudge up &#8211; it&#8217;s all information in the public domain, available to anyone.  The FBI is either sleeping on the job or just doesn&#8217;t care.  I suspect they are in the clutches of the Mossad.</p>
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		<title>By: rick dimbath</title>
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		<dc:creator>rick dimbath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jameson is posting some serious &amp; accurate
historical information.
One of the most or the most important reason to study history
is so you do not repeat it !!!!!!
It would be so wrong for America to have to suffer
a similar fate. We have historical records and can so easily
share the information.
Germans suffered terribly 
A.I.P.A.C.  OF  LUNATICS   / A.I.P.A.C.  OF  LUNATICS
THE ROYALS ARE LUNATICS AS WELL
(Royals now have NGO&#039;s,Corporations,Trusts,Institutions,etc.
OH ,DID I SAY BANKS ??     :)  :)



Jameson says: 
July 21, 2010 at 11:31 am 
The Hidden but Awkward Origins of World War 2

The unexpected views of four key diplomats who were close to events:

Just consider the following:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jameson is posting some serious &amp; accurate<br />
historical information.<br />
One of the most or the most important reason to study history<br />
is so you do not repeat it !!!!!!<br />
It would be so wrong for America to have to suffer<br />
a similar fate. We have historical records and can so easily<br />
share the information.<br />
Germans suffered terribly<br />
A.I.P.A.C.  OF  LUNATICS   / A.I.P.A.C.  OF  LUNATICS<br />
THE ROYALS ARE LUNATICS AS WELL<br />
(Royals now have NGO&#8217;s,Corporations,Trusts,Institutions,etc.<br />
OH ,DID I SAY BANKS ??     <img src='http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   <img src='http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Jameson says:<br />
July 21, 2010 at 11:31 am<br />
The Hidden but Awkward Origins of World War 2</p>
<p>The unexpected views of four key diplomats who were close to events:</p>
<p>Just consider the following:</p>
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		<description>The Rothschilds and Rockefellers did not mastermind 911 and probably had little, if anything, to do with it.  They were merely aware of it.  If you don&#039;t believe that, simply review the following video. That will straighten out your views.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o11YmQ7-Ld8

The bottom line is that neocons/PNAC think tank provided the rationale, CIA/Mossad were proxies or operatives- Mossad and various sayanim principally at the WTC, CIA provided identity theft/phony passports (Michael Springmun) which allowed the Arabs to be pinned as patsies.  

The Rockefellers and Rothschilds do not get their fingers dirty.  They stay apprised for shorting opportunities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Rothschilds and Rockefellers did not mastermind 911 and probably had little, if anything, to do with it.  They were merely aware of it.  If you don&#8217;t believe that, simply review the following video. That will straighten out your views.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o11YmQ7-Ld8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o11YmQ7-Ld8</a></p>
<p>The bottom line is that neocons/PNAC think tank provided the rationale, CIA/Mossad were proxies or operatives- Mossad and various sayanim principally at the WTC, CIA provided identity theft/phony passports (Michael Springmun) which allowed the Arabs to be pinned as patsies.  </p>
<p>The Rockefellers and Rothschilds do not get their fingers dirty.  They stay apprised for shorting opportunities.</p>
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		<description>Washington Report on Middle East Affairs &#124; January/February 1999

&quot;A Terrible Fraud&quot; : 
Wiesel Ignores Palestinians
To the Jerusalem Post, Oct. 9, 1998 (as submitted).

(from Prof. Daniel McGowan, Professor of Economics at Hobart and William Smith Colleges, Geneva, NY)

In your Oct. 9 article on Elie Wiesel, the American icon of Holocaust survivors, he is paid a special tribute as a &quot;speaker of truth.&quot; This is the same Elie Wiesel who is continually referred to by Noam Chomsky and others as &quot;a terrible fraud.&quot; What can explain such disparity of opinion?

Perhaps it is because Wiesel, who has written literally volumes Against Silence, remains silent when it comes to such issues involving Palestinians as land expropriation, torture and abrogation of basic human rights.

Perhaps it is because Elie Wiesel proclaims with great piety that &quot;the opposite of love is not hate; it is indifference,&quot; while he remains totally indifferent to the inequality and suffering of the Palestinians. Perhaps it is because he enjoys recognition as &quot;one of the first opponents of apartheid&quot; in South Africa, while he remains totally silent and indifferent to the apartheid being practiced today in Israel.

Perhaps it is because he decries terrorism, yet never apologizes for the terrorism perpetrated by the Irgun at Deir Yassin on April 9, 1948. He refuses even to comment on it. He dismisses this act of terrorism in eight short words in his memoirs, All Rivers Run to the Sea. He remembers the Jewish victims at Kielce, Poland (July 1946) with great anguish, but ignores twice as many Palestinian victims of his own employer at Deir Yassin. The irony is breathtaking.

It is even more shocking that the world&#039;s best known Holocaust survivor can repeatedly visit Yad Vashem and yet keep silent about the victims of Deir Yassin who lie within his sight 1,400 meters to the north. He bitterly protests when Jewish graves are defaced, but has nothing to say when the cemetery of Deir Yassin is bulldozed. He refuses even to acknowledge repeated requests that he join a group of Jews and non-Jews who wish to build a memorial at Deir Yassin.

Elie Wiesel may profess modesty and claim he is &quot;not a symbol of anything&quot; but, unfortunately, he has become a symbol of hypocrisy.

Daniel A. McGowan, Director, Deir Yassin Remembered, Geneva, NY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Washington Report on Middle East Affairs | January/February 1999</p>
<p>&#8220;A Terrible Fraud&#8221; :<br />
Wiesel Ignores Palestinians<br />
To the Jerusalem Post, Oct. 9, 1998 (as submitted).</p>
<p>(from Prof. Daniel McGowan, Professor of Economics at Hobart and William Smith Colleges, Geneva, NY)</p>
<p>In your Oct. 9 article on Elie Wiesel, the American icon of Holocaust survivors, he is paid a special tribute as a &#8220;speaker of truth.&#8221; This is the same Elie Wiesel who is continually referred to by Noam Chomsky and others as &#8220;a terrible fraud.&#8221; What can explain such disparity of opinion?</p>
<p>Perhaps it is because Wiesel, who has written literally volumes Against Silence, remains silent when it comes to such issues involving Palestinians as land expropriation, torture and abrogation of basic human rights.</p>
<p>Perhaps it is because Elie Wiesel proclaims with great piety that &#8220;the opposite of love is not hate; it is indifference,&#8221; while he remains totally indifferent to the inequality and suffering of the Palestinians. Perhaps it is because he enjoys recognition as &#8220;one of the first opponents of apartheid&#8221; in South Africa, while he remains totally silent and indifferent to the apartheid being practiced today in Israel.</p>
<p>Perhaps it is because he decries terrorism, yet never apologizes for the terrorism perpetrated by the Irgun at Deir Yassin on April 9, 1948. He refuses even to comment on it. He dismisses this act of terrorism in eight short words in his memoirs, All Rivers Run to the Sea. He remembers the Jewish victims at Kielce, Poland (July 1946) with great anguish, but ignores twice as many Palestinian victims of his own employer at Deir Yassin. The irony is breathtaking.</p>
<p>It is even more shocking that the world&#8217;s best known Holocaust survivor can repeatedly visit Yad Vashem and yet keep silent about the victims of Deir Yassin who lie within his sight 1,400 meters to the north. He bitterly protests when Jewish graves are defaced, but has nothing to say when the cemetery of Deir Yassin is bulldozed. He refuses even to acknowledge repeated requests that he join a group of Jews and non-Jews who wish to build a memorial at Deir Yassin.</p>
<p>Elie Wiesel may profess modesty and claim he is &#8220;not a symbol of anything&#8221; but, unfortunately, he has become a symbol of hypocrisy.</p>
<p>Daniel A. McGowan, Director, Deir Yassin Remembered, Geneva, NY</p>
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		<description>Demything Zion - Professor Arthur Butz

Arthur Butz MSc (MIT), PhD (Minnesota),  professor of electrical engineering and computer science at Northwestern University in Illinois, wrote a groundbreaking technical and historical analysis and refutation in his book The Hoax of the Twentieth Century (1977). 

He gives a wonderful example of the seemingly endless contradictions and ironies evident throughout the entire ‘official’ historiography of the Holocaust.

He quotes Martin Gilbert’s ‘long and copiously annotated study’ Auschwitz and the Allies:

‘Between May 1942 and June 1944, almost none of the messages reaching the west had referred to Auschwitz as the destination of Jewish deportees, or as a killing centre. Nor had the name of Auschwitz made any impression on those who were building up what they believed to be an increasingly comprehensive picture of the fate of the Jews.’ (p 340).

He compares this with the contention of Walter Lacquer in his ‘shorter but also copiously annotated study’ called The Terrible Secret (1980). Lacquer explains that mass exterminations at Auschwitz could not have been concealed, noting that Auschwitz was a ‘veritable archipelago’, that ‘Auschwitz inmates.. were, in fact, dispersed all over Silesia, and.. met with thousands of people’, that ‘hundreds of civilian employees .. worked at Auschwitz’, and that ‘journalists travelled in the General Government [German-controlled Poland] and were bound to hear’, etc. (Lacquer p22-25).

Butz says, ‘I have no quarrel with such observations, as I have made them myself, and on the basis of essentially the same considerations [Butz (1977) pp87f, 92ff].. ..Now the reader of Gilbert, Lacquer and Butz can make a very simple determination. He is being told that (a) in the period May 1942 to June 1944, those interested in such matters had no information of mass gassings at Auschwitz and (b) mass exterminations at Auschwitz could not have been concealed from the world for any significant length of time. The reader.. should assume both claims to be true: There was no information of mass gassings at Auschwitz during the relevant period, and mass gassings could not have been kept secret. Therefore, there were no mass exterminations at Auschwitz.’ (Butz, Context and Perspective in the ‘Holocaust’ Controversy, in the Journal of Historical Review Winter 1982 pp385-386.).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Demything Zion &#8211; Professor Arthur Butz</p>
<p>Arthur Butz MSc (MIT), PhD (Minnesota),  professor of electrical engineering and computer science at Northwestern University in Illinois, wrote a groundbreaking technical and historical analysis and refutation in his book The Hoax of the Twentieth Century (1977). </p>
<p>He gives a wonderful example of the seemingly endless contradictions and ironies evident throughout the entire ‘official’ historiography of the Holocaust.</p>
<p>He quotes Martin Gilbert’s ‘long and copiously annotated study’ Auschwitz and the Allies:</p>
<p>‘Between May 1942 and June 1944, almost none of the messages reaching the west had referred to Auschwitz as the destination of Jewish deportees, or as a killing centre. Nor had the name of Auschwitz made any impression on those who were building up what they believed to be an increasingly comprehensive picture of the fate of the Jews.’ (p 340).</p>
<p>He compares this with the contention of Walter Lacquer in his ‘shorter but also copiously annotated study’ called The Terrible Secret (1980). Lacquer explains that mass exterminations at Auschwitz could not have been concealed, noting that Auschwitz was a ‘veritable archipelago’, that ‘Auschwitz inmates.. were, in fact, dispersed all over Silesia, and.. met with thousands of people’, that ‘hundreds of civilian employees .. worked at Auschwitz’, and that ‘journalists travelled in the General Government [German-controlled Poland] and were bound to hear’, etc. (Lacquer p22-25).</p>
<p>Butz says, ‘I have no quarrel with such observations, as I have made them myself, and on the basis of essentially the same considerations [Butz (1977) pp87f, 92ff].. ..Now the reader of Gilbert, Lacquer and Butz can make a very simple determination. He is being told that (a) in the period May 1942 to June 1944, those interested in such matters had no information of mass gassings at Auschwitz and (b) mass exterminations at Auschwitz could not have been concealed from the world for any significant length of time. The reader.. should assume both claims to be true: There was no information of mass gassings at Auschwitz during the relevant period, and mass gassings could not have been kept secret. Therefore, there were no mass exterminations at Auschwitz.’ (Butz, Context and Perspective in the ‘Holocaust’ Controversy, in the Journal of Historical Review Winter 1982 pp385-386.).</p>
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		<description>I&#039;ve checked out the six volumes of Churchill&#039;s Second World War and the statement is quite correct - not a single mention of Nazi &#039;gas chambers,&#039; a &#039;genocide&#039; of the Jews, or of &#039;six million&#039; Jewish victims of the war. 
Eisenhower&#039;s Crusade in Europe is a book of 559 pages; Churchill&#039;s Second World War totals 4,448 pages; and De Gaulle&#039;s three-volume Mémoires de guerre is 2,054 pages.  
In this mass of writing, which altogether totals 7,061 pages (not including the introductory parts), published from 1948 to 1959, one will find no mention either of Nazi &#039;gas chambers,&#039; a &#039;genocide&#039; of the Jews, or of &#039;six million&#039; Jewish victims of the war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve checked out the six volumes of Churchill&#8217;s Second World War and the statement is quite correct &#8211; not a single mention of Nazi &#8216;gas chambers,&#8217; a &#8216;genocide&#8217; of the Jews, or of &#8216;six million&#8217; Jewish victims of the war.<br />
Eisenhower&#8217;s Crusade in Europe is a book of 559 pages; Churchill&#8217;s Second World War totals 4,448 pages; and De Gaulle&#8217;s three-volume Mémoires de guerre is 2,054 pages.<br />
In this mass of writing, which altogether totals 7,061 pages (not including the introductory parts), published from 1948 to 1959, one will find no mention either of Nazi &#8216;gas chambers,&#8217; a &#8216;genocide&#8217; of the Jews, or of &#8216;six million&#8217; Jewish victims of the war.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elie Wiesel vs Encyclopaedia Britannica
 
Wiesel has been one of the most prominent spokesman for the very sizeable group of people known as Holocaust survivors. Wiesel has chaired the US Holocaust Memorial Council and has been the recipient of a Congressional Gold Medal and Nobel Peace Prize..
 
Time Magazine, March 18 1985:

‘How had he survived two of the most notorious killing fields [Auschwitz and Buchenwald] of the century? &quot;I will never know&quot; Wiesel says. &quot;I was always weak. I never ate. The slightest wind would turn me over. In Buchenwald they sent 10,000 to their deaths every day. I was always in the last hundred near the gate. They stopped. Why?&quot;

Compare this with Encyclopaedia Britannica (1993), under ‘Buchenwald’:

&quot;In World War II it held about 20,000 prisoners.. Although there were no gas chambers, hundreds perished monthly through disease, malnutrition, exhaustion, beatings and executions.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elie Wiesel vs Encyclopaedia Britannica</p>
<p>Wiesel has been one of the most prominent spokesman for the very sizeable group of people known as Holocaust survivors. Wiesel has chaired the US Holocaust Memorial Council and has been the recipient of a Congressional Gold Medal and Nobel Peace Prize..</p>
<p>Time Magazine, March 18 1985:</p>
<p>‘How had he survived two of the most notorious killing fields [Auschwitz and Buchenwald] of the century? &#8220;I will never know&#8221; Wiesel says. &#8220;I was always weak. I never ate. The slightest wind would turn me over. In Buchenwald they sent 10,000 to their deaths every day. I was always in the last hundred near the gate. They stopped. Why?&#8221;</p>
<p>Compare this with Encyclopaedia Britannica (1993), under ‘Buchenwald’:</p>
<p>&#8220;In World War II it held about 20,000 prisoners.. Although there were no gas chambers, hundreds perished monthly through disease, malnutrition, exhaustion, beatings and executions.&#8221;</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting arithmetic - the incredible numbers
 
Have a look at a typical account by one of the seemingly endless number of survivors: Olga Lengyel’s Five Chimneys: a woman survivor’s true story of Auschwitz (Granada/ Ziff-Davis, 1947, 1972).

According to Lengyel, ‘After June, 1943, the gas chamber was reserved exclusively for Jews and Gypsies.. Three hundred and sixty corpses every half-hour, which was all the time it took to reduce human flesh to ashes, made 720 per hour, or 17,280 corpses per twenty-four hour shift. And the ovens, with murderous efficiency, functioned day and night. However, one must also reckon the death pits, which could destroy another 8,000 cadavers a day. In round numbers, about 24,000 corpses were handled each day. An admirable production record, one that speaks well for German industry.’ (Paperback edition, pp80-81). [No trace of any remains of or in ‘death pits’ has been found.]

This implies almost 100,000 corpses per four working days, or a million in 40 days, or six million in 240 days (eight months). Notice the bald precision of the figures without any explanation, the utter confidence in the reader&#039;s credulity.

The blurb on the cover of the book quotes the New York Herald-Tribune: &quot;Passionate, tormenting&quot;. Albert Einstein, the promoter of the US construction of the bombs used at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, is quoted as offering &quot;You have done a real service by letting the ones who are now silent and most forgotten speak.&quot;

Could this claim be a misprint?

Kitty Hart, in spite of her name a Jewish survivor born in Poland, fully confirms these figures: 

‘Working around the clock, the four units together could dispose of about 18,000 bodies every twenty-four hours, while the open pits coped with a further 8,000 in the same period.’ (p 118; Return to Auschwitz - paperback edition by Granada (1981, 1983).

According to the cover blurb, ‘The subject of the award-winning Yorkshire television documentary of the same name.’ ‘Both engaging and harrowing…an important addition to the growing holocaust literature, very little of which conveys so courageously both the daily torment and the will to survive’ – Martin Gilbert, The Times.

&#039;Sir&#039; Martin Gilbert, indefatigable Jewish campaigner on behalf of the ‘Holocaust’ and biographer of Winston Churchill, adds to the rich flavour and makes his own numerical claims, certainly not without chutzpah: 

In his book Auschwitz and the Allies (1981) he states 

‘The deliberate attempt to destroy systematically all of Europe’s Jews was unsuspected in the spring and early summer of 1942: the very period during which it was at its most intense, and during which hundreds of thousands of Jews were being gassed every day at Belzec, Chelmo, Sobibor and Treblinka.’ (p.26). [This statement, first noticed by Professor Robert Faurisson, was then deleted (not corrected) from the next edition - no simple typo, no simple error with omission or spelling or grammar, just a case of being caught red-handed in blatant chutzpah deluxe.]

If we assume a minimum figure of 200,000 per day, this amounts to say a million a five-day working week, or 6 million in six weeks, and this does not include the amazing claims for Auschwitz put forward by Hart and Lengyel with Gilbert’s blessing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting arithmetic &#8211; the incredible numbers</p>
<p>Have a look at a typical account by one of the seemingly endless number of survivors: Olga Lengyel’s Five Chimneys: a woman survivor’s true story of Auschwitz (Granada/ Ziff-Davis, 1947, 1972).</p>
<p>According to Lengyel, ‘After June, 1943, the gas chamber was reserved exclusively for Jews and Gypsies.. Three hundred and sixty corpses every half-hour, which was all the time it took to reduce human flesh to ashes, made 720 per hour, or 17,280 corpses per twenty-four hour shift. And the ovens, with murderous efficiency, functioned day and night. However, one must also reckon the death pits, which could destroy another 8,000 cadavers a day. In round numbers, about 24,000 corpses were handled each day. An admirable production record, one that speaks well for German industry.’ (Paperback edition, pp80-81). [No trace of any remains of or in ‘death pits’ has been found.]</p>
<p>This implies almost 100,000 corpses per four working days, or a million in 40 days, or six million in 240 days (eight months). Notice the bald precision of the figures without any explanation, the utter confidence in the reader&#8217;s credulity.</p>
<p>The blurb on the cover of the book quotes the New York Herald-Tribune: &#8220;Passionate, tormenting&#8221;. Albert Einstein, the promoter of the US construction of the bombs used at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, is quoted as offering &#8220;You have done a real service by letting the ones who are now silent and most forgotten speak.&#8221;</p>
<p>Could this claim be a misprint?</p>
<p>Kitty Hart, in spite of her name a Jewish survivor born in Poland, fully confirms these figures: </p>
<p>‘Working around the clock, the four units together could dispose of about 18,000 bodies every twenty-four hours, while the open pits coped with a further 8,000 in the same period.’ (p 118; Return to Auschwitz &#8211; paperback edition by Granada (1981, 1983).</p>
<p>According to the cover blurb, ‘The subject of the award-winning Yorkshire television documentary of the same name.’ ‘Both engaging and harrowing…an important addition to the growing holocaust literature, very little of which conveys so courageously both the daily torment and the will to survive’ – Martin Gilbert, The Times.</p>
<p>&#8216;Sir&#8217; Martin Gilbert, indefatigable Jewish campaigner on behalf of the ‘Holocaust’ and biographer of Winston Churchill, adds to the rich flavour and makes his own numerical claims, certainly not without chutzpah: </p>
<p>In his book Auschwitz and the Allies (1981) he states </p>
<p>‘The deliberate attempt to destroy systematically all of Europe’s Jews was unsuspected in the spring and early summer of 1942: the very period during which it was at its most intense, and during which hundreds of thousands of Jews were being gassed every day at Belzec, Chelmo, Sobibor and Treblinka.’ (p.26). [This statement, first noticed by Professor Robert Faurisson, was then deleted (not corrected) from the next edition - no simple typo, no simple error with omission or spelling or grammar, just a case of being caught red-handed in blatant chutzpah deluxe.]</p>
<p>If we assume a minimum figure of 200,000 per day, this amounts to say a million a five-day working week, or 6 million in six weeks, and this does not include the amazing claims for Auschwitz put forward by Hart and Lengyel with Gilbert’s blessing.</p>
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		<description>It’s now official – there’s been no actual shortage of Holocaust Survivors: 

Quote from The Holocaust Industry by Norman G. Finkelstein of the City University of New York, published by Verso in the year 2000:
 
&#039;The Israeli Prime Minister&#039;s office recently put the number of &quot;living Holocaust survivors&quot; at nearly a million.&#039; (page 83)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s now official – there’s been no actual shortage of Holocaust Survivors: </p>
<p>Quote from The Holocaust Industry by Norman G. Finkelstein of the City University of New York, published by Verso in the year 2000:</p>
<p>&#8216;The Israeli Prime Minister&#8217;s office recently put the number of &#8220;living Holocaust survivors&#8221; at nearly a million.&#8217; (page 83)</p>
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		<description>The Hidden but Awkward Origins of World War 2
 
The unexpected views of four key diplomats who were close to events:
 
Just consider the following:

Joseph P. Kennedy, U.S. Ambassador to Britain during the years immediately preceding WW2 was the father of the famous American Kennedy dynasty. James Forrestal the first US Secretary of Defense (1947-1949) quotes him as saying &quot;Chamberlain (the British Prime Minister) stated that America and the world Jews had forced England into the war&quot;. (The Forrestal Diaries ed. Millis, Cassell 1952 p129). 

Count Jerzy Potocki, the Polish Ambassador in Washington, in a report to the Polish Foreign Office in January 1939, is quoted approvingly by the highly respected British military historian Major-General JFC Fuller. Concerning public opinion in America he says &quot;Above all, propaganda here is entirely in Jewish hands…when bearing public ignorance in mind, their propaganda is so effective that people have no real knowledge of the true state of affairs in Europe… It is interesting to observe that in this carefully thought-out campaign… no reference at all is made to Soviet Russia. If that country is mentioned, it is referred to in a friendly manner and people are given the impression that Soviet Russia is part of the democratic group of countries… Jewry was able not only to establish a dangerous centre in the New World for the dissemination of hatred and enmity, but it also succeeded in dividing the world into two warlike camps…President Roosevelt has been given the power.. to create huge reserves in armaments for a future war which the Jews are deliberately heading for.&quot; (Fuller, JFC: The Decisive Battles of the Western World vol 3 pp 372-374.) 

Hugh Wilson, the American Ambassador in Berlin until 1938, the year before the war broke out, found anti-Semitism in Germany ‘understandable’. This was because before the advent of the Nazis, &quot;the stage, the press, medicine and law [were] crowded with Jews…among the few with money to splurge, a high proportion [were] Jews…the leaders of the Bolshevist movement in Russia, a movement desperately feared in Germany, were Jews. One could feel the spreading resentment and hatred.&quot; (Hugh Wilson: Diplomat between the Wars, Longmans 1941, quoted in Leonard Mosley, Lindbergh, Hodder 1976).
 
Sir Nevile Henderson, British Ambassador in Berlin ‘said further that the hostile attitude in Great Britain was the work of Jews and enemies of the Nazis, which was what Hitler thought himself’ (Taylor, AJP: The Origins of the Second World War Penguin 1965, 1987 etc p 324).

Is all of this merely attributable to terrible antisemitism?

The economic background to the war is necessary for a fuller understanding, before casting judgement on the originators of these viewpoints.

At the end of the First World War, Germany was essentially tricked [see Paul Johnson A History of the Modern World (1983) p24 and H Nicholson Peacemaking 1919 (1933) pp13-16] into paying massive reparations to France and other economic competitors and former belligerent countries in terms of the so-called Treaty of Versailles, thanks to the liberal American President Woodrow Wilson. Germany was declared to be solely responsible for the war, in spite of the fact that ‘Germany did not plot a European war, did not want one, and made genuine efforts, though too belated, to avert one.’ (Professor Sydney B Fay The Origins of the World War (vol. 2 p 552)). 

As a result of these massive enforced financial reparations, by 1923 the situation in Germany became desperate and inflation on an astronomical scale became the only way out for the government. Printing presses were engaged to print money around the clock. In 1921 the exchange rate was 75 marks to the dollar. By 1924 this had become about 5 trillion marks to the dollar. This virtually destroyed the German middle class (Koestler The God that Failed p 28), reducing any bank savings to a virtual zero.

According to Sir Arthur Bryant the British historian (Unfinished Victory (1940 pp. 136-144): 

‘It was the Jews with their international affiliations and their hereditary flair for finance who were best able to seize such opportunities.. They did so with such effect that, even in November 1938, after five years of anti-Semitic legislation and persecution, they still owned, according to the Times correspondent in Berlin, something like a third of the real property in the Reich. Most of it came into their hands during the inflation.. But to those who had lost their all this bewildering transfer seemed a monstrous injustice. After prolonged sufferings they had now been deprived of their last possessions. They saw them pass into the hands of strangers, many of whom had not shared their sacrifices and who cared little or nothing for their national standards and traditions.. The Jews obtained a wonderful ascendancy in politics, business and the learned professions (in spite of constituting) less than one percent of the population.. The banks, including the Reichsbank and the big private banks, were practically controlled by them. So were the publishing trade, the cinema, the theatres and a large part of the press – all the normal means, in fact, by which public opinion in a civilized country is formed.. The largest newspaper combine in the country with a daily circulation of four millions was a Jewish monopoly.. Every year it became harder and harder for a gentile to gain or keep a foothold in any privileged occupation.. At this time it was not the ‘Aryans’ who exercised racial discrimination. It was a discrimination that operated without violence. It was exercised by a minority against a majority. There was no persecution, only elimination.. It was the contrast between the wealth enjoyed – and lavishly displayed – by aliens of cosmopolitan tastes, and the poverty and misery of native Germans, that has made anti-Semitism so dangerous and ugly a force in the new Europe. Beggars on horseback are seldom popular, least of all with those whom they have just thrown out of the saddle.’

Goodness gracious, Sir Arthur! What made you get out of the wrong side of the bed? 

Strangely enough, a book unexpectedly published by Princeton University Press in 1984, Sarah Gordon (Hitler, Germans and the &quot;Jewish Question&quot;) essentially confirms what Bryant says. According to her, ‘Jews were never a large percentage of the total German population; at no time did they exceed 1% of the population during the years 1871-1933.’ But she adds ‘Jews were over-represented in business, commerce, and public and private service.. They were especially visible in private banking in Berlin, which in 1923 had 150 private Jewish banks, as opposed to only 11 private non-Jewish banks.. They owned 41% of iron and scrap iron firms and 57% of other metal businesses.. Jews were very active in the stock market, particularly in Berlin, where in 1928 they comprised 80% of the leading members of the stock exchange. By 1933, when the Nazis began eliminating Jews from prominent positions, 85% of the brokers on the Berlin Stock exchange were dismissed because of their &quot;race&quot;.. At least a quarter of full professors and instructors (at German universities) had Jewish origins.. In 1905-6 Jewish students comprised 25% of the law and medical students.. In 1931, 50% of the 234 theatre directors in Germany were Jewish, and in Berlin the number was 80%.. In 1929 it was estimated that the per capita income of Jews in Berlin was twice that of other Berlin residents..’ etc etc.

Arthur Koestler confirms the Jewish over-involvement in German publishing. ‘Ullstein’s was a kind of super-trust; the largest organization of its kind in Europe, and probably In the world. They published four daily papers in Berlin alone, among these the venerable Vossische Zeitung, founded in the eighteenth century, and the B.Z. am Mittag, an evening paper.. Apart from these, Ullstein’s published more than a dozen weekly and monthly periodicals, ran their own news service, their own travel agency, etc., and were one of the leading book publishers. The firm was owned by the brothers Ullstein - they were five, like the original Rothschild brothers, and like them also, they were Jews.’ (The God that Failed (1950) ed. RHS Crossman, p 31).

Edgar Mowrer, Berlin correspondent for the Chicago Daily News, wrote an anti-German tract called Germany Puts the Clock Back (published as a Penguin Special and reprinted five times between December 1937 and April 1938). He nevertheless notes ‘In the all-important administration of Prussia, any number of strategic positions came into the hands of Hebrews.. A telephone conversation between three Jews in Ministerial offices could result in the suspension of any periodical or newspaper in the state.. The Jews came in Germany to play in politics and administration that same considerable part that they had previously won by open competition in business, trade, banking, the Press, the arts, the sciences and the intellectual and cultural life of the country. And thereby the impression was strengthened that Germany, a country with a mission of its own, had fallen into the hands of foreigners.’ 

Mowrer says ‘No one who lived through the period from 1919 to 1926 is likely to forget the sexual promiscuity that prevailed.. Throughout a town like Berlin, hotels and pensions made vast fortunes by letting rooms by the hour or day to baggageless, unregistered guests. Hundreds of cabarets, pleasure resorts and the like served for purposes of getting acquainted and acquiring the proper mood..’ (pp. 153-4). Bryant describes throngs of child prostitutes outside the doors of the great Berlin hotels and restaurants. He adds ‘Most of them (the night clubs and vice-resorts) were owned and managed by Jews. And it was the Jews.. among the promoters of this trade who were remembered in after years.’ (pp. 144-5). 

Douglas Reed, Chief Central European correspondent before WWII for the London Times, was profoundly anti-German and anti-Hitler. But nevertheless he reported: ‘I watched the Brown Shirts going from shop to shop with paint pots and daubing on the window panes the word &quot;Jew&quot;, in dripping red letters. The Kurfürstendamm was to me a revelation. I knew that Jews were prominent in business life, but I did not know that they almost monopolized important branches of it. Germany had one Jew to one hundred gentiles, said the statistics; but the fashionable Kurfürstendamm, according to the dripping red legends, had about one gentile shop to ninety-nine Jewish ones.’ (Reed Insanity Fair (1938) p. 152-3). In Reed’s book Disgrace Abounding of the following year he notes ‘In the Berlin (of pre-Hitler years) most of the theatres were Jewish-owned or Jewish-leased, most of the leading film and stage actors were Jews, the plays performed were often by German, Austrian or Hungarian Jews and were staged by Jewish film producers, applauded by Jewish dramatic critics in Jewish newspapers.. The Jews are not cleverer than the Gentiles, if by clever you mean good at their jobs. They ruthlessly exploit the common feeling of Jews, first to get a foothold in a particular trade or calling, then to squeeze the non-Jews out of it.. It is not true that Jews are better journalists than Gentiles. They held all the posts on those Berlin papers because the proprietors and editors were Jewish’ (pp238-9).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Hidden but Awkward Origins of World War 2</p>
<p>The unexpected views of four key diplomats who were close to events:</p>
<p>Just consider the following:</p>
<p>Joseph P. Kennedy, U.S. Ambassador to Britain during the years immediately preceding WW2 was the father of the famous American Kennedy dynasty. James Forrestal the first US Secretary of Defense (1947-1949) quotes him as saying &#8220;Chamberlain (the British Prime Minister) stated that America and the world Jews had forced England into the war&#8221;. (The Forrestal Diaries ed. Millis, Cassell 1952 p129). </p>
<p>Count Jerzy Potocki, the Polish Ambassador in Washington, in a report to the Polish Foreign Office in January 1939, is quoted approvingly by the highly respected British military historian Major-General JFC Fuller. Concerning public opinion in America he says &#8220;Above all, propaganda here is entirely in Jewish hands…when bearing public ignorance in mind, their propaganda is so effective that people have no real knowledge of the true state of affairs in Europe… It is interesting to observe that in this carefully thought-out campaign… no reference at all is made to Soviet Russia. If that country is mentioned, it is referred to in a friendly manner and people are given the impression that Soviet Russia is part of the democratic group of countries… Jewry was able not only to establish a dangerous centre in the New World for the dissemination of hatred and enmity, but it also succeeded in dividing the world into two warlike camps…President Roosevelt has been given the power.. to create huge reserves in armaments for a future war which the Jews are deliberately heading for.&#8221; (Fuller, JFC: The Decisive Battles of the Western World vol 3 pp 372-374.) </p>
<p>Hugh Wilson, the American Ambassador in Berlin until 1938, the year before the war broke out, found anti-Semitism in Germany ‘understandable’. This was because before the advent of the Nazis, &#8220;the stage, the press, medicine and law [were] crowded with Jews…among the few with money to splurge, a high proportion [were] Jews…the leaders of the Bolshevist movement in Russia, a movement desperately feared in Germany, were Jews. One could feel the spreading resentment and hatred.&#8221; (Hugh Wilson: Diplomat between the Wars, Longmans 1941, quoted in Leonard Mosley, Lindbergh, Hodder 1976).</p>
<p>Sir Nevile Henderson, British Ambassador in Berlin ‘said further that the hostile attitude in Great Britain was the work of Jews and enemies of the Nazis, which was what Hitler thought himself’ (Taylor, AJP: The Origins of the Second World War Penguin 1965, 1987 etc p 324).</p>
<p>Is all of this merely attributable to terrible antisemitism?</p>
<p>The economic background to the war is necessary for a fuller understanding, before casting judgement on the originators of these viewpoints.</p>
<p>At the end of the First World War, Germany was essentially tricked [see Paul Johnson A History of the Modern World (1983) p24 and H Nicholson Peacemaking 1919 (1933) pp13-16] into paying massive reparations to France and other economic competitors and former belligerent countries in terms of the so-called Treaty of Versailles, thanks to the liberal American President Woodrow Wilson. Germany was declared to be solely responsible for the war, in spite of the fact that ‘Germany did not plot a European war, did not want one, and made genuine efforts, though too belated, to avert one.’ (Professor Sydney B Fay The Origins of the World War (vol. 2 p 552)). </p>
<p>As a result of these massive enforced financial reparations, by 1923 the situation in Germany became desperate and inflation on an astronomical scale became the only way out for the government. Printing presses were engaged to print money around the clock. In 1921 the exchange rate was 75 marks to the dollar. By 1924 this had become about 5 trillion marks to the dollar. This virtually destroyed the German middle class (Koestler The God that Failed p 28), reducing any bank savings to a virtual zero.</p>
<p>According to Sir Arthur Bryant the British historian (Unfinished Victory (1940 pp. 136-144): </p>
<p>‘It was the Jews with their international affiliations and their hereditary flair for finance who were best able to seize such opportunities.. They did so with such effect that, even in November 1938, after five years of anti-Semitic legislation and persecution, they still owned, according to the Times correspondent in Berlin, something like a third of the real property in the Reich. Most of it came into their hands during the inflation.. But to those who had lost their all this bewildering transfer seemed a monstrous injustice. After prolonged sufferings they had now been deprived of their last possessions. They saw them pass into the hands of strangers, many of whom had not shared their sacrifices and who cared little or nothing for their national standards and traditions.. The Jews obtained a wonderful ascendancy in politics, business and the learned professions (in spite of constituting) less than one percent of the population.. The banks, including the Reichsbank and the big private banks, were practically controlled by them. So were the publishing trade, the cinema, the theatres and a large part of the press – all the normal means, in fact, by which public opinion in a civilized country is formed.. The largest newspaper combine in the country with a daily circulation of four millions was a Jewish monopoly.. Every year it became harder and harder for a gentile to gain or keep a foothold in any privileged occupation.. At this time it was not the ‘Aryans’ who exercised racial discrimination. It was a discrimination that operated without violence. It was exercised by a minority against a majority. There was no persecution, only elimination.. It was the contrast between the wealth enjoyed – and lavishly displayed – by aliens of cosmopolitan tastes, and the poverty and misery of native Germans, that has made anti-Semitism so dangerous and ugly a force in the new Europe. Beggars on horseback are seldom popular, least of all with those whom they have just thrown out of the saddle.’</p>
<p>Goodness gracious, Sir Arthur! What made you get out of the wrong side of the bed? </p>
<p>Strangely enough, a book unexpectedly published by Princeton University Press in 1984, Sarah Gordon (Hitler, Germans and the &#8220;Jewish Question&#8221;) essentially confirms what Bryant says. According to her, ‘Jews were never a large percentage of the total German population; at no time did they exceed 1% of the population during the years 1871-1933.’ But she adds ‘Jews were over-represented in business, commerce, and public and private service.. They were especially visible in private banking in Berlin, which in 1923 had 150 private Jewish banks, as opposed to only 11 private non-Jewish banks.. They owned 41% of iron and scrap iron firms and 57% of other metal businesses.. Jews were very active in the stock market, particularly in Berlin, where in 1928 they comprised 80% of the leading members of the stock exchange. By 1933, when the Nazis began eliminating Jews from prominent positions, 85% of the brokers on the Berlin Stock exchange were dismissed because of their &#8220;race&#8221;.. At least a quarter of full professors and instructors (at German universities) had Jewish origins.. In 1905-6 Jewish students comprised 25% of the law and medical students.. In 1931, 50% of the 234 theatre directors in Germany were Jewish, and in Berlin the number was 80%.. In 1929 it was estimated that the per capita income of Jews in Berlin was twice that of other Berlin residents..’ etc etc.</p>
<p>Arthur Koestler confirms the Jewish over-involvement in German publishing. ‘Ullstein’s was a kind of super-trust; the largest organization of its kind in Europe, and probably In the world. They published four daily papers in Berlin alone, among these the venerable Vossische Zeitung, founded in the eighteenth century, and the B.Z. am Mittag, an evening paper.. Apart from these, Ullstein’s published more than a dozen weekly and monthly periodicals, ran their own news service, their own travel agency, etc., and were one of the leading book publishers. The firm was owned by the brothers Ullstein &#8211; they were five, like the original Rothschild brothers, and like them also, they were Jews.’ (The God that Failed (1950) ed. RHS Crossman, p 31).</p>
<p>Edgar Mowrer, Berlin correspondent for the Chicago Daily News, wrote an anti-German tract called Germany Puts the Clock Back (published as a Penguin Special and reprinted five times between December 1937 and April 1938). He nevertheless notes ‘In the all-important administration of Prussia, any number of strategic positions came into the hands of Hebrews.. A telephone conversation between three Jews in Ministerial offices could result in the suspension of any periodical or newspaper in the state.. The Jews came in Germany to play in politics and administration that same considerable part that they had previously won by open competition in business, trade, banking, the Press, the arts, the sciences and the intellectual and cultural life of the country. And thereby the impression was strengthened that Germany, a country with a mission of its own, had fallen into the hands of foreigners.’ </p>
<p>Mowrer says ‘No one who lived through the period from 1919 to 1926 is likely to forget the sexual promiscuity that prevailed.. Throughout a town like Berlin, hotels and pensions made vast fortunes by letting rooms by the hour or day to baggageless, unregistered guests. Hundreds of cabarets, pleasure resorts and the like served for purposes of getting acquainted and acquiring the proper mood..’ (pp. 153-4). Bryant describes throngs of child prostitutes outside the doors of the great Berlin hotels and restaurants. He adds ‘Most of them (the night clubs and vice-resorts) were owned and managed by Jews. And it was the Jews.. among the promoters of this trade who were remembered in after years.’ (pp. 144-5). </p>
<p>Douglas Reed, Chief Central European correspondent before WWII for the London Times, was profoundly anti-German and anti-Hitler. But nevertheless he reported: ‘I watched the Brown Shirts going from shop to shop with paint pots and daubing on the window panes the word &#8220;Jew&#8221;, in dripping red letters. The Kurfürstendamm was to me a revelation. I knew that Jews were prominent in business life, but I did not know that they almost monopolized important branches of it. Germany had one Jew to one hundred gentiles, said the statistics; but the fashionable Kurfürstendamm, according to the dripping red legends, had about one gentile shop to ninety-nine Jewish ones.’ (Reed Insanity Fair (1938) p. 152-3). In Reed’s book Disgrace Abounding of the following year he notes ‘In the Berlin (of pre-Hitler years) most of the theatres were Jewish-owned or Jewish-leased, most of the leading film and stage actors were Jews, the plays performed were often by German, Austrian or Hungarian Jews and were staged by Jewish film producers, applauded by Jewish dramatic critics in Jewish newspapers.. The Jews are not cleverer than the Gentiles, if by clever you mean good at their jobs. They ruthlessly exploit the common feeling of Jews, first to get a foothold in a particular trade or calling, then to squeeze the non-Jews out of it.. It is not true that Jews are better journalists than Gentiles. They held all the posts on those Berlin papers because the proprietors and editors were Jewish’ (pp238-9).</p>
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