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	<title>Comments on: The GOP Plot to Screw the Economy and the Middle Class</title>
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		<title>By: robinhood</title>
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		<dc:creator>robinhood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 00:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>right, but on the meantime republicans keep winning elections- to speed up the disappearance of the middle classs.  very broad generalization you have made which doesnt serve the public and actually has accelerated our dislike for goverment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>right, but on the meantime republicans keep winning elections- to speed up the disappearance of the middle classs.  very broad generalization you have made which doesnt serve the public and actually has accelerated our dislike for goverment.</p>
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		<title>By: johng</title>
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		<dc:creator>johng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 04:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tax cuts to the already wealthy don&#039;t convert to spending on goods and services. They are saved, which either attracts interest or merely pushes up asset prices.

Spending on people that are struggling gets spent on goods and services which increase economic activuty and velocity.

This is what Keynes had in mind. Spending money into banks, wars and already profitable corporations wasn&#039;t.

The essence is in the nature of deficit spending. The aim should be full employment. Federal debt equals private savings remember. Those at the top have the savings and THAT is what should be taxed back into the real economy first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tax cuts to the already wealthy don&#8217;t convert to spending on goods and services. They are saved, which either attracts interest or merely pushes up asset prices.</p>
<p>Spending on people that are struggling gets spent on goods and services which increase economic activuty and velocity.</p>
<p>This is what Keynes had in mind. Spending money into banks, wars and already profitable corporations wasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>The essence is in the nature of deficit spending. The aim should be full employment. Federal debt equals private savings remember. Those at the top have the savings and THAT is what should be taxed back into the real economy first.</p>
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		<title>By: AJHenry</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJHenry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 18:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you look at the chart on p. 128 of Kevin Phillips&#039; Wealth and Democracy, it&#039;s entirely clear that the middle class has been getting screwed for 40+ years.  The notion that it&#039;s a Republican or Democratic thing is nonsense.  Both serve the plutocrats and neither will reverse course.

Globalization, not Dem or Repub, is wiping out the middle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you look at the chart on p. 128 of Kevin Phillips&#8217; Wealth and Democracy, it&#8217;s entirely clear that the middle class has been getting screwed for 40+ years.  The notion that it&#8217;s a Republican or Democratic thing is nonsense.  Both serve the plutocrats and neither will reverse course.</p>
<p>Globalization, not Dem or Repub, is wiping out the middle.</p>
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		<title>By: MK</title>
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		<dc:creator>MK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 14:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though the GOP has overrun the Tea Party, the people in it are not fooled or coopted.  I have spoken to a lot of them.  They are disillusioned with both parties.  I know that a lot of people are planning to vote for anybody but the mainstream parties because they are both thoroughly corrupt.

MK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though the GOP has overrun the Tea Party, the people in it are not fooled or coopted.  I have spoken to a lot of them.  They are disillusioned with both parties.  I know that a lot of people are planning to vote for anybody but the mainstream parties because they are both thoroughly corrupt.</p>
<p>MK</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your thoughts. The super-rich, those 10,000 individuals who own 35% of America, won&#039;t be paying higher taxes on income--they&#039;ve already made off with all they need. Putting aside the labels the media and our elites have cleverly devised to prey upon differences in personal temperament, which are meant to divide us, the prevailing fiscal and monetary policies in this country are straight-up Keynesianism. In the preface to the German edition of his General Theory of Employment, Interest, and Money, Keynes explicitly states his theories are most applicable to a totalitarian state. Make no mistake about it, our elites are fully aware that their policies will impoverish the wage earner by taxation and destroy middle class wealth through inflation. As Lenin succinctly put it, &quot;The way to crush the bourgeoisie [that&#039;s most of us] is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.&quot;

By the way, how is it that &quot;for every dollar of government money spent on extending the Bush tax cuts, there’s only a 32-cent return on investment in terms of economic stimulus&quot;? I don&#039;t understand the thought, that the government has money to spend in the first place that it hasn&#039;t already taken through coercion. More importantly, the assertion that a dollar of tax cut has a negative multiplier, or negative velocity, is absurd on the face of it. Is it being suggested that the economy contracts by a factor of three for each dollar of tax cut? The only sense I can make out of this is that Americans cannot mortgage their children and grandchildren fast enough to the Chinese, buying all the plastic and electronic junk at Walmart, so maybe that&#039;s the point, that the money doesn&#039;t stay here. In any case, the idea that spending can improve the economy has the cart before the horse. Only through investment, which is roughly equivalent to savings, can a society put off spending today to benefit tomorrow.

What your readers need to know is that while we&#039;re experiencing catastrophic asset deflation in houses, inflation is rearing its ugly head already in such things as food prices. When a bank takes a deposit it can lend the money out, and so it does in normal times. But the check given to the borrower ends up in his bank, which in turn lends it out, and so on. This is called fractional-reserve banking, and a quick overview of the practice is easy to find. The best book for understanding the way our elites have robbed us blind through inflataion is Griffin&#039;s &quot;The Creature From Jekyll Island,&quot; an easy and quick study of our banking system and the crimes of the Federal Reserve System. I apologize for repeating myself on this site, but this book will knock your socks off. It&#039;s easy to read and it&#039;s more like a book on espionage than on our central bank and its fractional-reserve banking spawn. The photos of the crooks involved is worth the price of the book, which is usually stocked in any large bookstore. 

The Fed more than doubled the base money supply over the last 21 months or so, and if the banks start lending again, prices could go right through the roof as a result of this monetary explosion. Double the money supply in circulation, double prices. But, it&#039;s not that simple. When this increase of base money first gets into the banking system--that is, into the hands of Goldman Sachs ad nauseam--the robber barons get to play with it for free. You and I get nothing but higher prices down the road. This is theft, an organized criminal conspiracy against the American working man and woman, and inflation is aptly called the stealth tax.

Let&#039;s not quibble about our temperamental allegiances on domestic issues while the house burns down around us. The elites will naturally have their paper assets neatly tucked away for spending on the Riviera or some tropical island. Throwing out all the bums serving in Congress, which is all but a mere handful, is pointless since the media ensures that only a similar group of servile lackeys to the powers that be can ever come before the voters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your thoughts. The super-rich, those 10,000 individuals who own 35% of America, won&#8217;t be paying higher taxes on income&#8211;they&#8217;ve already made off with all they need. Putting aside the labels the media and our elites have cleverly devised to prey upon differences in personal temperament, which are meant to divide us, the prevailing fiscal and monetary policies in this country are straight-up Keynesianism. In the preface to the German edition of his General Theory of Employment, Interest, and Money, Keynes explicitly states his theories are most applicable to a totalitarian state. Make no mistake about it, our elites are fully aware that their policies will impoverish the wage earner by taxation and destroy middle class wealth through inflation. As Lenin succinctly put it, &#8220;The way to crush the bourgeoisie [that's most of us] is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.&#8221;</p>
<p>By the way, how is it that &#8220;for every dollar of government money spent on extending the Bush tax cuts, there’s only a 32-cent return on investment in terms of economic stimulus&#8221;? I don&#8217;t understand the thought, that the government has money to spend in the first place that it hasn&#8217;t already taken through coercion. More importantly, the assertion that a dollar of tax cut has a negative multiplier, or negative velocity, is absurd on the face of it. Is it being suggested that the economy contracts by a factor of three for each dollar of tax cut? The only sense I can make out of this is that Americans cannot mortgage their children and grandchildren fast enough to the Chinese, buying all the plastic and electronic junk at Walmart, so maybe that&#8217;s the point, that the money doesn&#8217;t stay here. In any case, the idea that spending can improve the economy has the cart before the horse. Only through investment, which is roughly equivalent to savings, can a society put off spending today to benefit tomorrow.</p>
<p>What your readers need to know is that while we&#8217;re experiencing catastrophic asset deflation in houses, inflation is rearing its ugly head already in such things as food prices. When a bank takes a deposit it can lend the money out, and so it does in normal times. But the check given to the borrower ends up in his bank, which in turn lends it out, and so on. This is called fractional-reserve banking, and a quick overview of the practice is easy to find. The best book for understanding the way our elites have robbed us blind through inflataion is Griffin&#8217;s &#8220;The Creature From Jekyll Island,&#8221; an easy and quick study of our banking system and the crimes of the Federal Reserve System. I apologize for repeating myself on this site, but this book will knock your socks off. It&#8217;s easy to read and it&#8217;s more like a book on espionage than on our central bank and its fractional-reserve banking spawn. The photos of the crooks involved is worth the price of the book, which is usually stocked in any large bookstore. </p>
<p>The Fed more than doubled the base money supply over the last 21 months or so, and if the banks start lending again, prices could go right through the roof as a result of this monetary explosion. Double the money supply in circulation, double prices. But, it&#8217;s not that simple. When this increase of base money first gets into the banking system&#8211;that is, into the hands of Goldman Sachs ad nauseam&#8211;the robber barons get to play with it for free. You and I get nothing but higher prices down the road. This is theft, an organized criminal conspiracy against the American working man and woman, and inflation is aptly called the stealth tax.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not quibble about our temperamental allegiances on domestic issues while the house burns down around us. The elites will naturally have their paper assets neatly tucked away for spending on the Riviera or some tropical island. Throwing out all the bums serving in Congress, which is all but a mere handful, is pointless since the media ensures that only a similar group of servile lackeys to the powers that be can ever come before the voters.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tax cuts for the super-rich and wars have fiscal ramifications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tax cuts for the super-rich and wars have fiscal ramifications.</p>
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		<title>By: DLIGHT</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLIGHT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like made up numbers</description>
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		<title>By: DLIGHT</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLIGHT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For every dollar spent on unemployment benefits, there’s a $1.61 return in economic stimulus. Good investment! How about infrastructure spending? $1.57 return. Aid to the states? $1.41. Temporary increase in food stamps? $1.74. Even the Obama tax credits for the middle class, $288 billion of the Recovery Act, account for up to $1.30.
 How do you support those numbers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For every dollar spent on unemployment benefits, there’s a $1.61 return in economic stimulus. Good investment! How about infrastructure spending? $1.57 return. Aid to the states? $1.41. Temporary increase in food stamps? $1.74. Even the Obama tax credits for the middle class, $288 billion of the Recovery Act, account for up to $1.30.<br />
 How do you support those numbers?</p>
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		<title>By: rickdimbath</title>
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		<dc:creator>rickdimbath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ALL  ILLEGAL ALIENS WILL BE DEPORTED &amp; FLOWN TO  TEL  AVIV</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ALL  ILLEGAL ALIENS WILL BE DEPORTED &amp; FLOWN TO  TEL  AVIV</p>
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		<title>By: rickdimbath</title>
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		<dc:creator>rickdimbath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WE THE SOVEREIGN STATES OF  THE
U.S.A.  DECLARE OUR  FREEDOM/INDEPENDENCE
FROM  WASHINGTON  D.C.  &amp;  NEW YORK CITY  &amp; ISRAEL     :)  :)  :)   :)</description>
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U.S.A.  DECLARE OUR  FREEDOM/INDEPENDENCE<br />
FROM  WASHINGTON  D.C.  &amp;  NEW YORK CITY  &amp; ISRAEL     <img src='http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   <img src='http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   <img src='http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />    <img src='http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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