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- The idea that all of Islam is the same is tantamount to the idea that all of Christianity is represented by the KKK, pedophile priests, and anti-Semitic, Apocalyptic Dominionists -
Eric Martin of Obsidian Wings has a piece condemning the ADL for speaking against the “contemplated expansion of the mosque near the World Trade Center.”
Seems the ADL is for freedom of religion except when this freedom gets in the way of ginning up anti-Islamic sentiment and using this hate for its own militaristic enterprises.
And the ADL has the usual heavyweight thinkers on its side: Sarah Palin, New Gingrich and other assorted bigots.
By Eric Martin
The ADL on the contemplated expansion of the mosque near the World Trade Center:
We regard freedom of religion as a cornerstone of the American democracy, and that freedom must include the right of all Americans – Christian, Jewish, Muslim, and other faiths – to build community centers and houses of worship.
We categorically reject appeals to bigotry on the basis of religion, and condemn those whose opposition to this proposed Islamic Center is a manifestation of such bigotry.
However, there are understandably strong passions and keen sensitivities surrounding the World Trade Center site. We are ever mindful of the tragedy which befell our nation there, the pain we all still feel – and especially the anguish of the families and friends of those who were killed on September 11, 2001.
The controversy which has emerged regarding the building of an Islamic Center at this location is counterproductive to the healing process. Therefore, under these unique circumstances, we believe the City of New York would be better served if an alternative location could be found.
I’ve read this about five times now, and I still don’t see how they get from the premises in paragraphs 1 and 2 to the conclusions in paragraph 4.
The third paragraph is the weakest of bridges in this regard, not only because paragraph 4 betrays the principles extolled in the first two (though that does sort of give the game away), but for the simple fact that many of the families and friends of those killed believe that the mosque would be a testament to American values triumphing over ignorance.
Myself included. Not to mention, undoubtedly, some of the Muslim victims’ friends and loved ones. They count too.
After all, why do some passions and sensitivities get valued over others and, if we must choose, why should we choose to give priority to those responses informed by divisiveness, bigotry and ignorance?
This is shameful for the ADL. Absolutely shameful.
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UPDATE: Newt Gingrich doubles down on the hate. Matt Yglesias:
Team Gingrich gets both dumber and more offensive chatting with Salon’s Justin Elliot:
Newt Ginrich’s spokesman told Salon in a phone interview today that building a mosque at Ground Zero “would be like putting a statue of Mussolini or Marx at Arlington National Cemetery.”
Asked what the 19th century German philosopher had ever done to America, Gingrich spokesman Rick Tyler said: “Well let’s go with Lenin then.” Tyler explained that he was talking about Lenin, who died in 1924, as representative of the Cold War and ideologies opposed to America.
And here we actually get to the nub of the problem…[T]he issue here is whether or not we should be defining Islam, as such, as an “ideolog[y] opposed to America” comparable to the ideology that powered the Soviet Union. I say ‘no,’ Team Newt says yes. That’s both repugnant and strategically disastrous.
Newt, the sensible centrist ideas man..
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Israel wants to build a nation that goes from the Mediterranean to what now is Baghdad. I read this somewhere. The problem the Jews in Israel have is this. They have to kill or dislocate all those living in this area before they can populate it with Zionist Jews.
It is a known fact throughout history before you kill someone you have to dehumanize them. John Gacy along with all the other serial killers throughout history!
ADL along with their supporters in Hollywood, Congress, White House and the media are dehumanizing Muslims and those who want peace.
They are now dehumanizing Arabs. Meaning to kill an Arab Muslim is like killing a rabid dog. Yes Reverend John Hagee is as guilty of this as Abe Foxman.
“I read this somewhere”
…brilliant.
Posting the link for the following was unsuccessful, so google: Israel Destroys a Whole Negev Village 200 Children Left Homeless
Received this from Intifada Palestine by email.
Drean, you are correct; Jews in Israel kill or dislocate.
Equalizer, the Master Plan-Blue Print is called “ERTZ ISRAEL”, (The Big Israel). It has existed since the days of Theodor Hertzl, Ashkenazi Jew from Austria, who wrote a panphlet: “The Jewish State” in the 19th century, held the 1rst Zionist Congress in Basel (CH) to promote its content.The goal is that “Ertz Israel” would strech “from the Nile to the Euphratus”.The major Zion Talmudist’s achievement so far ‘s been to trick-deceive USA-EU to war on Muslim States in the way ‘n make them pay the heavy cost…
Talk about double standards.
I hate the “Anti”-Defimation League with a passion (they promote racism harder than liberals do). But, for once in their pathetic, anti-American existance, they are standing up for something American (no matter their reasoning).
Any non-muslim who supports this mosque has a lot of catching up to do.
Greetings Drean,
“From the Mediterranean to Baghdad” – “To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the River Euphrates …” Genesis 15:18
War criminal Ariel Sharon has quoted this verse.
The end is rear,
Infidel
Greetings Walker. If you think you are being clever or cute you are not. Your types are the racist scary type. Not much different then the KKK was in the 30′s.
There is a way and a method to fight Islamic extremists. Your way is based on ignorance and shows the depth of your education on the subject.
You do not promote peace or solutions you promote ignorance. I am also guessing you are raising your children as you are yourself.
An enlightening read: “The Ugly Truth About The ADL” by the Editors of Executive Intelligence Review first published in 1992, fifth printing in 1994. Library of Congress Catalogue Number 92-075810.
SENATOR DARTH CHUTZPAH IS SO EAGER TO SHUT DOWN THE INTERNET. !!
http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=302
The Zionist War For World Domination
Welcome To “REAL ZIONIST NEWS!”
My Name Is Brother Nathanael Kapner.
I Am A “Street Evangelist.”
I Grew Up As A Jew.
I Am Now An Orthodox Christian.
I Wish To Warn How Zionist Jews
Are Destroying Christianity Throughout The World
The ADL Hates Our Freedoms
I HAVE BEEN LABELLED BY THE ADL as a “rabid Anti Semite.” And Real Jew News has been harassed by the “Anti Defamation League” by intimidating my last two Web Hosting Companies and causing them to shut down Real Jew News without warning. I have incurred much expense both in money & time because of the ADL’s intimidation tactics.
Americans are asking, “Why does the ADL hate us?” They hate us right here in our Internet chambers – a bastion of free speech. The ADL hates our freedoms – - our freedom to publicly display our love of Christmas, our freedom of speech, our freedom to have the press publicize all available presidential candidates, our freedom to disagree over US policy towards Israel.
The ADL indeed hates our freedom to disagree over US policy towards Israel. An example of this is illustrated in the incident known as “The Judt Affair.” On October 4 2006, a renowned NYU historian by the name of Tony Judt was scheduled to speak at the Polish Consulate in Manhattan. Judt was to give a talk on the Israel Lobby & planned to argue that the Israel Lobby stifles honest debate.
An hour before Judt was to arrive, the Polish Consul General, Christopher Kastryzk, canceled the talk. Kastryzk said that the Anti Defamation League had called and exercised “delicate pressure.” He quickly concluded Judt was too controversial. It was later discovered that it was Abraham Foxman, ADL’s director, who had called Kastryzk.
ADL BOASTS OF THEIR HATRED OF FREE SPEECH
THE ADL SEEMS TO BASK in its victories over those who wish to exercise their First Amendment rights. Here’s what Abraham Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League, had to say about the Judt affair:
The Polish Consulate made the right decision. Mr Judt has taken the position that Israel shouldn’t exist. That puts him on our radar. We’ve been keeping tabs on Mr Judt.” View Entire Story Here & Here.
But Judt had this to say about the ADL:
“This is serious and frightening. This is a Jewish organization that believes they should keep people who disagree with them away from anyone who might listen.” View Entire Story Here & Here.
And that about sums it up doesn’t it my fellow Americans? We have a true terrorist organization and terrorist leader right here in the good ‘ol USA.
Indeed – The ADL Simply ‘Hates’ Our Freedoms…
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For More See: “A Brave New ‘Zionist’ World” Click Here
And: “3 Main Characters Of The Jewish Lobby” Click Here
And: “George Orwell’s Zionist Nightmare” Click Here
Yo Bill,
I’m a racist scary type, not much different from the KKK? And you figured this out because I quoted a Bible verse? My spirit is sorely vexed.
Agape,
Infidel
Gary you need some time in Gladiator school.
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WHAT IF WE JUST DON’T WANT A “SPECIAL” RELIGIOUS GROUP RUNNING
THE FBI/DHS/STATE POLICE ETC. TO CONTROL & DEFORM & RUIN OUR COUNTRY.
HOW ABOUT YOUR “STATUS” OF SOME RELIGIOUS/CULTURAL GROUP IS FOR
YOU TO ENJOY ALL YOU WANT, REALLY, GO BE HAPPY ,LEAVE US ALONE !!
AT THE SAME TIME , BUZZ OFF , KEEP YOUR HANDS & YOUR CONTROL FREAK CREEPY
AGENDA AWAY FROM OUR CHILDREN & OUR LIVES.
GUESS WHAT ?? ,WE HATE & ARE INTOLERANT OF CONTROL FREAK CREEPS WHO SEE IT AS THEIR SPECIAL PURPOSE TO TELL EVERYONE ELSE WHAT HISTORY,TRUTH, & THE PROPER
WAY TO THINK/BELIEVE IS. TAKE ALL YOUR PROPAGANDA/INDOCTRINATION AND
GO “GUILT TRIP” SOMEBODY ELSE.
WE ARE ALL DONE WITH YOUR CULTURAL/SOCIAL MARXISM
GO BUILD A FEW MILLION “HOLOHOAX” MUSEUMS ON URANUS.
lewrockwell/ANTI-SEMITISM DEFINED December 1990
Organized anti-anti-Semites will get away with their odious calumnies until they are finally forced to define their terms, to set up some rational criteria for this serious charge. It is high time that they be called on this loathsome tactic. So all right, just what is anti-Semitism: if we can get beyond vague and ephemeral “feelings?”
It seems to me that there are only two supportable and defensible definitions of anti-Semitism: one, focusing on the subjective mental state of the person, and the other “objectively,” on the actions he undertakes or the policies he advocates.
For the first, the best definition of anti-Semitism is simple and conclusive: a person who hates all Jews. But here Buchanan is clearly vindicated by everyone who has ever met him, since all agree he is not “personally” anti-Semitic, has many Jewish friends, saved the job of Mona Charen, etc. Here I also want to embellish a point: All my life, I have heard anti-anti-Semites sneer at Gentiles who, defending themselves against the charge of anti-Semitism, protest that “some of my best friends are Jews.” This phrase is always sneered at, as if easy ridicule is a refutation of the argument. But it seems to me that ridicule is habitually used here, precisely because the argument is conclusive. If some of Mr. X’s best friends are indeed Jews, it is absurd and self-contradictory to claim that he is anti-Semitic. And that should be that.
But perhaps it might be contended that X is at heart, down deep, anti-Semitic, and that he duplicitously acquires Jewish friends to cover his tracks. And how, unless we are someone’s close friend, or shrink, can we know what lies in a person’s heart? Perhaps then the focus should be, not on the subject’s state of heart or mind, but on a proposition that can be checked by observers who don’t know the man personally. In that case, we should focus on the objective rather than the subjective, that is the person’s actions or advocacies. Well, in that case, the only rational definition of an anti-Semite is one who advocates political, legal, economic, or social disabilities to be levied against Jews (or, of course, has participated in imposing them).
Let us then consider Pat Buchanan. Never – and the smear articles themselves are effective testimony to this fact – never has Pat Buchanan advocated any such policies, whether they be barring Jews from his country club or placing maximum quotas on Jews in various occupations (both of which have happened in the U.S. in our lifetime), let alone legal measures against Jews. So once again, it is absurd and a vicious calumny to call Pat anti-Semitic. If Pat passes any rational subjective or objective “litmus test” with flying colors, what else is there? It is high time and past time that the anti-anti-Semitic Smear Bund shut up about Buchanan and, while they’re at it, reconsider their other vilifications as well.
But am I not redefining anti-Semitism out of existence? Certainly not. On the subjective definition, by the very nature of the situation, I don’t know any such people, and I doubt whether the Smear Bund does either. On the objective definition, where outsiders can have greater knowledge, and setting aside clear-cut anti-Semites of the past, there are in modern America authentic anti-Semites: groups such as the Christian Identity movement, or the Aryan Resistance, or the author of the novel Turner’s Diaries. But these are marginal groups, you say, of no account and not worth worrying about? Yes, fella, and that is precisely the point.
We in the free world are facing a 4th Generation War from within: AIPAC-ADL are together with the mainstream media, they control, waging the part that corresponds to them against the people deceiving-telling the politicians-gov. what to do ‘n robing the taxpayers blind via the FED-Wall Street Bankster, all for the benefit of Israel. Newt Gingrich, Harman, Lieberman, Palin, John McCaine are the ZionTalmudic InternationalMafia foot soldiers on US soil. Foxman thinks that he’s so smart, he can outfox all of us