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Ground Zero Mosque Not at Ground Zero and Not a Mosque

Post-9/11 islamophobia

After 9/11 attacks, islamophobia began to take shape in the collective consciousness of the American and western general public.

 But for the American Muslims it was a lot more than viewing this antipathy on TV, they were living it, day in and day out 

By Dr. Ashraf Ezzat

Exchange among civilizations is a tremendous source for the creation of value and most of all, the value of diversity and tolerance

Human history is replete with disasters brought about by attitudes of arrogance and superiority complex based on race, color, language and religious affiliation.

And the latter has been the example of the latest uproar over what is called Ground Zero mosque in lower Manhattan, New York.

 The New York Landmarks Preservation commission on Tuesday denied landmark status to a building near the World Trade Center site, freeing a group to convert the property into an Islamic community center and mosque that has drawn national opposition.

The Landmarks Preservation Commission voted 9-0, saying the 152-year-old building – two blocks from the site of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks -wasn’t special or distinctive enough to meet criteria to qualify as a landmark

Thus the Islamic community that hopes to build a $100 million mosque and Islamic center near Ground Zero has cleared an important hurdle – the legal approval to build on the site. But they still have to overcome a fierce and seemingly insurmountable hurdle which is the growing American antipathy toward the so called Ground Zero mosque. 

What makes the problem almost insurmountable is the deeply and painfully misconceived history upon which it has to stand.

 In the opponents view, building a mosque so close to the site of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attack on the World Trade Center disrespects the memory of those killed. Supporters of the plan argue that building the center and mosque would be the ultimate test of the nation’s commitment to tolerance and religious freedom.

New York city Mayor Bloomberg supporting the mosque project.

 Mayor Michael Bloomberg underscored this freedom in a passionate defense of the center this week: “The World Trade Center site will forever hold a special place in our city, in our hearts. But we would be untrue to the best part of ourselves and who we are as New Yorkers and Americans if we said no to a mosque in lower Manhattan. Any way, the emotions this debate has ignited are intense and contradictory.

National and New York politicians and public protestors have come out in recent weeks against plans for the mosque, saying that pushing to build a conspicuous Muslim institution near this site demonstrates a profound lack of emotional intelligence and understanding of the raw emotions that are the legacy of the terrorist attacks.

Rationalization of bigotry.

Honest American citizens, who have come to know pure demagoguery when they hear it, have lately had, plenty of practice, listening to what opponents of the mosque project had to say.

First, former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, have argued against a mosque being so close to the scene of the nation’s worst terrorist attack. And added that, it would only lead to unnecessary provocation.

Mark Williams, chairman of the Tea Party Express, blogged about the 13-story mosque and Islamic cultural center planned at Park Place and Broadway, calling it a monument to the 9/11 terrorists.

The Anti-Defamation League, an organization that battles anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry, in a contradicting statement, is asking that the Islamic centre and mosque be built farther away from ground zero in consideration of families who lost loved ones during the Sep 11, 2001 attacks.

Meanwhile, in a statement that reflected the ultimate demagoguery, Republican running for Governor Carl Paladino released a video statement on Monday saying he would stop the mosque if he was elected.


YouTube - Veterans Today -

The real reason behind the debate over Ground Zero mosque

  “We had Islamic fundamentalists who killed 3,000 people at the World Trade Center site and are trying to kill more since then, so to have a Mosque at that site will stir up feelings – and antagonistic ones,” says Douglas Muzzio, a professor of political science at Baruch College in New York. in this statement, Prof. Muzzio simply summarized the problem behind the furious debate on this mosque issue.

People are against this project, not because it is at Ground Zero, but simply because Muslims are behind it. And Muslims – in the back of the Americans` mind – are considered the perpetrators of the 9/11 atrocities.Terrorism is not an ideology, it is a tool; but the terrorists kill for an ideology. They call that ideology Islam. This is the direct message that the mainstream media insisted on delivering in the aftermath of 9/11.

9/11 attacks on America.

The American public did not bother to question this weird narrative. A terrified post 9/11 public needed a suspect, a villain to point the finger at, and that evil force that aimed to destroy America was already tailored and prepared- in the white house political kitchen – as Islam.

Thus with the 9/11 attacks a new era of growing antagonism to other creed began to emerge in a way never witnessed since the fall of communism, and islamophobia began to take shape in the collective consciousness of the American and western general public.

It is not at Ground zero and it is not a mosque.

To be accurate the Ground Zero mosque is not at Ground Zero. It’s near Ground Zero; leaving out the “near” clearly takes sides — against the “mosque” and against accuracy.

 And furthermore, it is not a mosque, it is designed and planned to function as an Islamic cultural center under the label of Cordoba House Islamic cultural center (which is to include a prayer room — not a single-purpose house of worship for Muslims, which is probably what we should reserve the word “mosque” for.)

There’s no good reason why Cordoba House should be misleadingly called a “mosque. . It is designed as a multi-use complex with a space set aside for prayer — no minarets, no muezzin calls to prayer blaring onto Park Place.”

The world Muslim community numbers about 1.57 billion people, roughly one-fifth of the world population.

 This community has to do their Friday prayer, gathered together in a house for prayer. Giving the knowledge that, an average mosque could accommodate around 200 people. How many mosques- in your opinion- should be built for the Muslims around the world?

 If we do math, we will find that the Muslims are in need of a scary number of mosques to enable them to perform their prayer. But honestly speaking, this represents no problem at all to the Muslims.

Muslims perfoming prayer in the open air.

 For the Muslims, the earth is a big mosque, a Muslim can do his prayer rituals anywhere, in the open air or in a room, in land or at sea, standing or sitting and if he cannot move at all he could do it with his heart.

It’s not unfamiliar scene to watch the Muslims all around the world gathered in hundreds and thousands in the open air performing prayer and dispersing soon after they finish, leaving the place as it was before.  

And if that is the case, then why the American Muslim community insists on building what the media called “Ground Zero mosque”. I think it is obvious now that they want to build something a lot more than a simple mosque, something they really need, something that is worth more than $ 100 million  and worthy of all the hardship they have to endure to make this dream like project come true.

The need to prove the obvious

The Manhattan project is being spearheaded by the Cordoba Initiative and the American Society for Muslim Advancement. In other words, the American Muslim community.

The American Muslims were terribly affected by the attacks of 9/11; Muslims around the world had been troubled by the irritating and somehow indirect accusation of Islam, as a doctrine promoting terror and intolerance.

 All the world Muslim community could get a glimpse of that growing western antipathy toward them through reading the daily papers and watching the news on TV screens. But for the American Muslims it was a lot more than viewing this antipathy on TV, they were living it, day in and day out.

And though 40 to 50 of the 9/11 victims were American Muslims, and though Muslims in America grieved with their fellow Americans. Still they couldn’t escape the stereotyping of all Muslims that was underway.

What is also clear is that any personal antipathy toward any given person ought not predispose us to assume that he is guilty. But the American Muslims were predisposed to feel suspects ever since 9/11.

 The American Muslims knew for a fact, as president bush once said that, on 9/11, Islam had been high jacked by a bunch of crazy fanatics who happened to claim adherence to Islam.

The American community couldn’t live with this growing feeling of not belonging as they watched the post -9/11 proliferating xenophobia.

The American Muslims had to do something to change this negative attitude, they had to stand out from the mainstream and risk their comfort and maybe their reputation to defend what ought to be taken for granted, They had to convince the media and political establishment, and even the general public, that Islam did not attack the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, sick and twisted men did.

Saladin Citadel in cairo 1183 A.D, masterpiece in Islamic architecture.

They had to persuade them that it is unfair and even harmful to feel this antagonist way about a great culture and turn a blind eye to the valuable contributions of Islam to the world civilization throughout history.

 They had to establish this “Cordoba cultural center” to initiate an interfaith and intercultural dialogue aimed at redefining Islam to the Americans. And putting an end to the absurd and deliberate scheme that helped characterize and link Islam and Muslims to terror. 

 And as Thomas L. Friedman, the New York Times columnist described opposition to this project as “resistance to diversity.”The proposed Islamic center should be considered as a symbol of tolerance in a free society. Only in such way, the building of the so called Ground Zero mosque could make a statement. 

Civilizations have met, interacted and transacted with one another throughout history. The meeting of civilizations was not always a smooth phenomenon. But always proved a worthy endeavor.

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  1. This article is pure garbage. You have got to be kidding. I suggest that the proposed mosque be built 150 miles southeast of the proposed site!!!

  2. Regardless of the percentage of radical Muslims to peace loving muslims in the U.S. or the world, if peace is truly the goal, and not insisting on claiming a spot front and center, humbly choose a place further from the attack. It will show that Muslims really want to take the higher road and will make no difference in the quality of community life or worship that takes place within the building, but may result in fewer acts against, and adverse reactions to Muslims in the community at large. In the end it would be protecting the Muslim community to choose another location.

  3. Tell me how the hell the meeting of distict civilizations has always proved a worthy endeavor.Can you even give me one example?No?That`s because there are none.Been to detroit or L.A. lately?You`re obviously still alive so I`ll guess no.

    • Dr. Ashraf Ezzat

      The encounter of the ancient Egyptian and Greek civilizations is a pioneer and remarkable example.
      the exchange between the Islamic(Arabic)culture and the Greek heritage had by no means facilitated the induction of the European Renaissance.
      …But then, i don`t think that is common knowledge in Detroit, too much wheels culture i think.!!

  4. Another piece of crap pushing the tolerant Islam myth.

    One question..

    Have you any idea how many loopholes christians have to go through to build a church in a muslim country?

    In many cases the paperwork has to reach the office of El Presidente himself.

    ..and these are ‘local’ christians not immigrants,like the Muslims in the West.

    Here in Indonesia muslim mobs regularly demolish churches that operate without ‘license’.

    If christians would be doing that the liberal media would be up in arms.

    Support Islamic causes at your peril..

    • Dr. Ashraf Ezzat

      Why blame it on Islam, blame it on the totalitarian polcies of Indonesia and many other politically oppressed Islamic countries. Blame it on rotten policy not religion.

  5. That ground zero mosque Building was hit by airplane parts & bodies on 9-11 – THAT IS GROUND ZERO. Now, look into WHO’S FUNDING THIS NEW MOSQUE? And, it was the muslims from the Cordoba Initiative first calling it the “Ground Zero Mosque!”

    Remember how offended muslims were over those Danish cartoons? Do you know how many mosques have been built over terrorized cites & conquered lands in Islams 1,400 year history? There are already 200 mosques in New York.

    Remember this news from Feb 2008?

    “Study: 3 in 4 U.S. mosques preach anti-West extremism Secret survey exposes widespread radicalism ”

    You only add more offensive insults to those who oppose the ground zero mosque by accusing them of discrimination, xenophobia, racism and denying 1st Amendment rights. Those are intimidation tactics geared towards censoring a point of view that you just hate.

    I am a liberal but I very strongly oppose a GZ mosque.

    Read this blog “What the Ground Zero mosque is really about?” at Freethought Nation

    “Mosques are our barracks, domes our helmets, minarets our bayonets, believers our soldiers.”
    – Turkish Prime Minister Recep Erdogan

    “Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.”
    – Omar M. Ahmad, founder of Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)

    Please, try not to be a dhimwit

  6. Come on Guys, Islam is not just a religion they practice in the privacy of the home. The Koran is very clear and Muslims must take it to the letter. I have been to many Islamic countries and I don’t like them and I don’t want Sharia here. I read yesterday that 10% of the legal immigrants coming into the US are Muslims – that is 100 000 per year. You don’t know what you are letting yourselves in for.

    Beyond the right to hit your wives, the Koran send you must stone an adulterous to death, kill anybody who leaves the religion, kill lhomosexuals, impose sharia law on the world (Islamic Justice), pray five times a day, even at work and so on … There is no room in Islam for a humanist revolution and enlightenment, the individual’s free will … the only will in Islam is Allah’s.

    Islam is a religion of conquest and violence, not peace unless of course you kneel before it. I do not think that tolerance means inviting the intolerable. There was an American culture, history and set of values I loved and still cherish. Islam will take them away from us.

    • Lets just Nuke the whole damn bunch of em, and if they won’t adapt to our culture lets put the bunch of em on a atoll in the pacific that still has a 1/2 life of 10,000 years of radio activity. and toss the rest of them illegal bums from Mexico and Central America along with em …am sick and tired of all these whiners that want everything we had to pay with blood sweat and tears, learn the language leave your stuff behind and be Americans other wise stay the hell out YOU AINT WELCOME HERE…..KLM Nam vet 85th Med Evac I corps Class of 1969 and if this offends you I don’t give a crap!!!!

      • I don’t mind if they practice Islam in their countries. I don’t think we have any right to go there and impose our ways on them. But we should defend our way.

  7. . It is right and rightious to lie to, cheat, steal from, kill all Infidels if it is for the promotion of Islam.

    I think someone is getting the most holy book of Judaism, the Talmud, mixed up with the Koran.

    The American Heritage Dictionary describes the Talmud as “constituting the basis of religious authority for traditional Judaism.”

    The authoritative Universal Jewish Encyclopedia compiled by the leading Rabbinic organizations of the world, makes it very clear that the Talmud, not the Torah or Old Testament, is the supreme authority for Judaism.

    “Thus the ultimate authority for Orthodoxy is the Babylonian Talmud. The Bible itself ranks second to it in reality, if not in theory. (Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, “Authority” pg. 637) 2

    What does the Talmud, the chief authority of Judaism, have to say about Jesus Christ?

    Balaam [Jesus] fornicated with his jackass. (Sanhedrin 105a-b)3

    Jewish priests raised Balaam [Jesus] from the dead and punished him in boiling hot semen.(57a Gittin)4

    She who was the descendant of princes and governors [The Virgin Mary] played the harlot with a carpenter. (Sanhedrin 106a)

    [Jesus] was lowered into a pit of dung up to his armpits. Then a hard cloth was placed within a soft one, wound round his neck, and the two ends pulled in opposite directions until he was dead. (Sanhedrin 52b) 5

    There’s more, even worse, on what the Chosen Ones can do to us Gentiles–GOY–and not fear punishment from the law or their G-d.

    But you have a computer, so educate yourselves.

    Also, try and find any Arabs or Muslims sitting on the board of the Federal Reserve, the national bank that is robbing this country blind. Don’t understand what hyper-inflation is? Stick around, you’ll see first hand.

    Check out all those “Too Big to Fail” Wall Street banks that stole trillions and were rewarded with hundreds of billions of OUR money.
    Let me know how many Arabs or Muslims you find on their board of directors.

    I’ll tell you who you will find, plenty of our pseudo-friends, Israeli Jews, who are robbing us blind and then to cover their actions, drumming up wars against the Muslim world.

    So go ahead and keep hating that imaginary enemy the Zionist owned MSM is putting in front of your face, just don’t ask questions when we’re all finally BROKE and much of America looks like the Gaza Concentration Camp.

    • MAJESTE, WELL SAID !!! Your spot on. Funny how nobody even attempts to attack your argument because they don’t want to look like a fool. The Talmud is the smoking gun.
      — Jews have been destroying nations for centuries. Like a parasite they find a host, drain it dry, toss the corpse and move on to the next victim.
      — Mossad motto, “By way of deception, thou shall do war” = (false flag) = 911

  8. I dont particularly like Islam as a religion but I dont think they had much to do with the 911 attacks so I dont care where they build .

  9. I am prepared to freely accept persons of all Religious preferences PROVIDED they practice what they preach. All over the world, fundamentalist Muslims loudly call for death to America and to the Jews. The Koran contains language not only authorizing this attitude but claiming it is a duty for all good Muslims.

    Therefore, why in Hell should we not be prejudiced against them?

    MHP

    • Amen brother! I resemble that sentiment! However you are just pissing in the wind talking to these whisle ass numb nuts.

  10. I Love New York: Using examples such as the protests against the proposed Islamic education center containing a mosque near Ground Zero, Sally Steenland puts recent anti-Muslim ranting into perspective and encourages Americans to look at the religion based on reality, not distortion.

    More: The Distorted Lens of Islamophobia: We Need to Assess Islam Based on Reality, Not Rants http://app.mx3.americanprogressaction.org/e/er.aspx?s=785&lid=61356&elq=fc1cd5117c814e638d613c77f9898caf

    This came with a real good ‘diversity’ political cartoon of a street side look at New York City!

  11. Joe DiMaggio’s parents were sent to an internment camp briefly because they were on the War Department’s list of ” Potentially Dangerous Immigrants” due to the number of vowels in their last name. It was far worse for Japanese-Americans living on the West Coast during WW2.
    Xenophobia is the last bastion against tolerance and diversity. Between the
    FBI, Homeland Security and the increased domestic surveillance of Islamic citizens here in the Post 9-11 USA should have been enough for the average citizen.
    What separates us from the truly insidious radical fascists within our own borders, is our ability to not stereotype ALL muslims as possible terrorists.
    When reactionary fear mongers launch tirades against things like this NYC Islamic
    Community Center, it only reinforces Middle Eastern stereo types about bigoted
    Americans. Thus making us no better than our “enemies”.

    • What you say may be true. However, according to Homeland Security, as a US veteran, I may be a potential threat to the United States of America — Just like McVey. So…your argument is weak. Try increasing the scope to include all who are being sought out by the FBI, Homeland Security and increased domestic surveillance. Then compound it with “anti-muslim” feelings of the average citizens, who most are not educated in the ways of Islam but only what they get from there government and national or local news media. People react to what they know, what they think they know and by what they’re being told. Apparently, the doctors in Afghanistan would still be alive only if they were Muslim. Perhaps.

  12. After the past decade there’s still a meme used here around a certain date: “We shall never forget!”
    Well after the past decade and tens of thousands killed and maimed, and as we know many more will die from the long term results and what’s been done, just look at Vietnam, as well as millions turned into refugee’s and oh so much more, Guess Who Will Never Forget, especially if no accountability is brought, For The Coming Decades, and Guess Who’s Left To Live In Any Blowback, None Will Because Of Any Religious Ideology, None, It Was All Done In Our Names!!!!!!!!

  13. This: >”Exchange among civilizations is a tremendous source for the creation of value and most of all, the value of diversity and tolerance”<

    Seems Not to be the ideals nor following the (re)written teachings of the so called self labeled 'christians' in the U.S. in this New Century carrying over from the previous but with louder whining and obscene hatreds, then they wonder why others shun them!!

  14. What ever you call it, they will front it as one thing and eventually bring in and add to it in a derogatory way to further piss us off even more. I do not trust any of them. They have 100 (ONE HUNDRED!!!) Mosque in New York, why don’t they combine some of them at one of their larger facilities and use that? Doesn’t the recent history of our European brothers, having all of the problems that they have with “them”, tell us something about the troublesome and stress that they cause? Get them out of here along with the illegal aliens. We have more important things to worry about than to have to put-up with their crazy religion. Hey Brian, you are out of your f——g mind!!!

    • Take a look at All the so called ‘christian’ churches, especially in the South!!!
      You seem to be abit out of touch, hope you’re not a regular church goer, otherwise you got some splainin to do when the time comes!!

      • “Can’t we all just get along, aren’t we all just the same, after all aren’t all religions the same, we all worship the same God”. Please give me a break! Islam considers all non believers Infidels. It is right and rightious to lie to, cheat, steal from, kill all Infidels if it is for the promotion of Islam.”Take a look at All the so called ‘christian’ churches. especially in the South!!! Why the hell do you think there are Christian churches all over the SOUTH. It’s the center of christian protistantism numb nut! Just like you will not find a Christian church of any stripe in Saude Arabia. It’s the center of the Muslim world not to mention it’s against the law to practice Christainity in Saude Arabia. And NO we do not Worship the Same God. My God is not Allah! However I can accept the fact that they can worship any way they choose as long as they leave me and mine alone and don’t shove there abomination in my face, and try to make a symbolic victory by building an Islamic center nearly on top of the twin tower site. Don’t blow smoke that this is not in realitiy a symbolic victory dance against Christianity and the western culture.

  15. If Muslims are as bad as politicians have portrayed them, why have they been allowed to enter and become citizens of this country? If these lying politicians were as much afraid of Muslims as they would have the public believe, wouldn’t you think they’d be frightened of them also?

  16. I remember watching the news on 9/11 and the days after. I remember seeing video of “muslims” worldwide cheering the destruction in the United States by “fanatic muslims.” Forgive me if I don’t jump on the current, left-leaning liberal band wagon embracing Islam (I guess for fear that the “fanatic muslims” will again attack us if we don’t) without Islam accepting my Christianity as a legitimate faith-based religion. I am in a position to communicate with many people of different faiths on a regular basis — I have only met one muslim who was willing to condemn the horrific acts of that 9/11 day. The others have said they prefer not to speak of it. These people also say that Americans are bigots and racists and now I read Islamophobe. Why, because we don’t want people, most of who are from other countries changing our way of life, or see us die. No, I’ll stick with treating my fellow human beings with dignity and respect and when I don’t get the same in return… I’ll forgive but I won’t lay down. If you are an ememy of my country, regardless of your citizenship, I will stand against you. If you are willing to follow your beliefs in peace then there shall be peace. So, what is meant by Cordoba Iniative? Hmmmm…I wonder, if this actually turns out to be a Mosque, unlike what the good Dr. Ashraf Ezzat describes, will he write another article and tell us that he was wrong, that he was duped? I’m guessing not but we’ll see.

    • “I remember seeing video of “muslims” worldwide cheering the destruction in the United States by “fanatic muslims.”

      It was on tv it must be true.

      • Oh, you’re right…what was I thinking? It was just made up by even the liberal media. Sorry. I remember seeing made up video of people who weren’t really muslims cheering destruction in the United States. Next thing you’ll tell me is that a trip to Disney Land won’t go up to $80+ per person.

        • actually, if you followed up, the ‘celebrations” shown in Palestine was some old reel dug up on reports of some people celebrating, anyone who knows anything about time zones knew that it was impossible that that reel was real.

          secondly, there has been widespread condemnation from mainstream muslim groups, and the most senior scholars in different countries belonging to different schools of thought have condemned those attacks and terrorism in general. In USA itself leaders of muslim groups all signed a declaration against terrorism.

          I have been to interfaith events, travel the world and read different sources of news. I suggest you try the same. These people are neighbors, many escaping from the dictatorial governments or extremist clergy (as is the case in iran for example), why punish them? they came here like many of our forefathers for a better life and dissatisfaction from rulers of their old countries.

          Lets be very firm on militants and terrorists, as we are in afghanistan right now, but lets not start lashing out at people who not only had nothing to do with it, but are the people who were born and raised here and US is the only home they know. Yes there are some crazies here too, but lets not use that to treat a whole set of different groups as criminals. That is not what this nation was founded upon, we made the mistake in the case of Japanese americans during ww2 earlier anyways, lets not repeat our mistakes.

      • It would be interesting to see what would happen if a Lutheran, Catholic, etc., church would be built alongside the Khobar towers in Saudi Arabia what there reaction would be. This probably would not be a touchy issue if Muslims in the US would have condemned the 9/11 towers issue but for the most part they still are remote and quiet. Dearborne MI has been silent where they have more Muslims than anyplace in the US.

    • FOR THE PAST 60 YEARS WE ARE HELPING ISRAEL KILLING ARABS, AND BUILD ILLEGAL JEWISH ONLY SETTLEMENTS ON CONFISCATED PALESTINIAN TERRITORY AND ALLOW THEM TO HAVE MORE THAN 200 NUCLEAR WEAPONS IN VIOLATION OF INTERNATIONAL LAWS SO WE ARE GETTING THE RESULT OF OUR POLICIES. WE ARE INVADING AND STEALING THEIR OIL, OVERTHROWING ELECTED MODERATE GOVERNMENT AND REPLACE THEM WITH RUTHLESS DICTATORS AMERICAN PUPPETS FOR DECADES AND THEN WE WONDER WHY THEY DON’T WAVE THE AMERICAN FLAG AND LOVE US…
      LEON THERE ARE OVERWHELMING DOCUMENTATIONS PROVING THAT THE 9/11 ATTACK WAS A FALSE FLAG PSY OPS DESIGNED BY SOME POWERFUL ROGUE ELEMENTS INSIDE OUR OWN GOVERNMENT WITH THE HELP OF INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES AND ISRAELI INTELLIGENCE.
      DECLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS SHOWS THAT OUR MILITARY INTELLIGENCE AND ISRAELI MOSSAD INFILTRATES MUSLIM TERROR CELLS FOR DECADES…AND ARE MONITORING AND USE THEM TO THEIR ADVANTAGE…CHECK “AL QAIDA THE DATABASE BY PIERRE HENRI BUNEL AND WAYNE MADSEN (FORMER NSA) GOOGLE AND LEARN…MOHAMMED ATA WAS MONITORED BY U.S INTELLIGENCE FOR YEARS AND RECEIVED A TRANSFER OF $100.000 FROM THE ISI (PAKISTANI INTELLIGENCE WHICH WAS CREATED BY THE CIA) THE MAN WHO PAID HIM GENERAL MAMOUD AHMAD FROM PAKISTAN WAS IN WASHINGTON DC THE VERY MORNING OF 9/11 AND HAD BREAKFAST WITH PORTER GOSS WHILE THE PLANES WERE HITING THE WTC IN NY. PORTER GOSS BECAME DIRECTOR OF THE CIA A YEAR LATER TO REPLACE GEORGE TENET…
      MOST OF AMERICAN WHO STILL BELIEVE IN THE OFFICIAL VERSION OF 9/11 ARE POLITICALLY NAIVE AND ARE FALLING INTO THE TRAP :MUSLIM=TERRORIST…THAT IS WHAT THE WAR MONGERS AND THE RULING ELITE WANT YOU TO BELIEVE…THIS PHONY WAR ON TERROR IS A MULTI BILLION DOLLAR INDUSTRY A GOLDEN GOOSE FOR THE MILITARY SECURITY AND INTELLIGENCE INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX…OVER ONE MILLION THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND IRAQI KILLED . (10% OF INSURGENTS 90% INNOCENT CIVILIANS INCLUDING CHILDREN) HUNDRED OF THOUSANDS AFGHANIS KILLED 90% INNOCENT CIVILIANS…WE ARE USING DEPLETED URANIUM WEAPONS CAUSING AN INCREASE OF BIRTH DEFECTS WHILE POLLUTING THE ENTIRE REGION FOR HUNDRED OF YEARS…THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES TO OUR ACTIONS HOW CAN WE EXPECT THESE PEOPLE TO LOVE US…AFGHANISTAN, PAKISTAN KOWEIT SAUDI ARABIA IRAQ IRAN WERE ALL CREATED BY THE BRITISH EMPIRE TO SERVE THEIR INTEREST AND THEIR NEED FOR OIL, NONE OF THESE COUNTRIES EXISTED BEFORE EUROPEANS INVADED KILLING MILLIONS WHILE REMAPPING THE ENTIRE REGION (IN THE 20’S)
      THOSE WHO FORGET HISTORY ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT,…LEON SEEMS TO START HIS EDUCATION ABOUT ISLAM ON THE 9/11 …GOING BACK 20 30 OR EVEN 100 YEARS WOULD BE USEFUL TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON TODAY
      CHECK http://www.ifamericansknew.org
      PEACE
      WAR IS A RACKET.

  17. If one was a cynic or paranoid, they might think that the 9/11 attacks were a major false flag, committed by the MOSSAD and CIA to pit the Christian world against the Muslim world, to battle for decades until they both collapse from exhaustion.

    At that point, a 3rd party, that has been instrumental in setting off false flags and using its MSM to sow fear, hatred and ignorance–and judging by some DRACONius comments, I’d say they’re doing a splendid job–in Americans so they’ll let their hatred trump over reasoning and turn into a carbon copy of Israel: Full of hate and a desire for vengeance against an imaginary foe, one constructed to amaze idiots.

    Guess you could call me a cynical paranoid, but at least I still have a functioning mind that hasn’t been hijacked by FOX and the Israeli Ministry of Truth.

  18. Anyone who claims that any human being in an “animal” simply due to their beliefs should take a serious look at their own.

  19. Kevin Barrett is a Caucasian Muslim and an insightful 911 investigator. He is an author and Islamic studies expert. These intriguing comments are from a group email I received from him. These comments may infuriate some Americans but I agree with a lot of him comments:

    His latest proposal–that the US government should build the world’s tallest mosque at Ground Zero as an apology to Muslims for falsely blaming them for 9/11–is unlikely to quiet his detractors.

    In an open letter to President Obama, copied to New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and other New York officials, Dr. Barrett argues that the U.S. government is guilty of “genocide” against the Muslims of Iraq, Palestine, and (arguably) Afghanistan. Additionally, Dr. Barrett argues that U.S. officials are also “guilty of unconstitutionally waging war against the religion of Islam.” These crimes, Dr. Barrett asserts, were triggered by what he calls “the 9/11 false-flag attacks (which were) designed and carried out by enemies of Islam and falsely blamed on Muslims.”

    The U.S. should offer repentance and reparations for its crimes against Muslims, Dr. Barrett asserts, by covering the entire World Trade Center site with what would, if built, become the world’s tallest mosque. “The new mosque should cover the entire World Trade Center property, and should feature twin minarets at least 700 feet tall,” Barrett says. (Currently the world’s tallest minaret is the 689 feet tower at the Grand Mosque of Casablanca, Morocco.) Barrett adds that the Ground Zero mega-mosque should be built at taxpayer expense. “This would not violate the Constitutional prohibition on showing favoritism to any particular religion,” he explains, “because the U.S. government and the bankers who own it have already spent trillions attacking Islam. Giving back a few billion in the form of a great mosque at Ground Zero would be a minimal symbolic gesture towards setting things right.” Dr. Barrett claims that since countries that did not perpetrate the Holocaust still pay Holocaust reparations to the Jewish state of Israel, any nation that has murdered millions of Muslims and waged a worldwide war against the religion of Islam obviously owes far greater reparations to Muslims.

    Dr. Barrett says the gigantic new mosque at Ground Zero should include a “9/11 truth museum” documenting the evidence that 9/11 was carried out by American and Israeli insiders, not Muslims. The museum could include such artifacts as the laughably bogus “last will and testament of Mohammed Atta,” pieces of airplane wreckage from earlier crashes that were planted at the alleged 9/11 crash sites, WTC structural steel samples showing melting and evaporation caused by explosives, videos and other objects seized from the Israeli Mossad team that filmed and celebrated their colleagues’ destruction of the World Trade Center, unflattering wax figures of such 9/11 villains as Dick Cheney, Larry Silverstein, and Benjamin Netanyahu, and samples of nanothermite-laden World Trade Center dust. Dr. Barrett adds that the “truth museum” should also include displays honoring “the patriots of the 9/11 truth movement, who have selflessly sacrificed so much in the path of truth, justice, and the Constitution.”

    • This nut should move to Saudi Arabia. Muslims are nothing more than animals, who cares if millions were killed? I am thrilled whenever I heard about them dying. Imagine the world without 1.2 billion primitives still living in the 7th century? It would be a great thing.

      • Draconious, there you go again… “animals”.

        Islam is a faith, just like Christianity, Judaism and others. Just like all faiths and yes including yours, there are some within that are lunatic extremists who do horrific things. These peoples are the enemy…

        But to call everyone an “animal” speaks of your ignorance and lack of understanding of the subject matter. Are all Christians “Animals” because a few extremists kill in the name of…

        I strongly suggest you fully learn about Islam and it’s teachings including all of it’s gifts to humanity. You’d be shocked to find that your everyday life is intertwined with Islam.

        Moreover, go meet those who practice Islam from Arabia to Indonesia to almost every country in the world. I think you will find that these “animals” of which you speak are people just like you and me. We’re all Human Beings!

        • Johnny Punish
          I agree you can not brand a whole class of people with the same iron. But those who behave as animals are animals no matter what their group, tribe, faith, belief, religion, race, creed, or sexual orientation. However to rant on that those who commited the hanious act of 9/11 were not muslim is blastphamy. Extremests yes, far out fringe nuts yes, but muslims just the same. I have yet to see any great outrage from the “Mainstreem Muslim Comunity” to denounce these acts. If I am mistaken direct me to any pubic statement by an honored Muslim leader who has done so and then not turned around and praised the acts or given a wink and a nod to his own comunity.

          • Looks like youre another one who prefers to ignore the dancing Israelis who were caught red handed on the day, and later proudly proclaimed their success on Israeli television.

            Nope, no Muslims there, nor were there any involved in the Zionist-orchestrated false flag atrocity of that day, which has you and so many other MSM-indoctrinated drones still looking in the wrong direction.

          • “I have yet to see any great outrage from the “Mainstreem Muslim Comunity” to denounce these acts”

            Of course you haven’t. How could they denounce anyone when it has yet to be proven who committed the attacks? Every single member of the 9/11 Commission has claimed it was a white-wash. That misleading and false evidence was used and high level pressure was exerted on the panel for a scripted outcome.

            It was even said recently by the guy’s doctors that the main body of testimony provided to the 9/11 commission was given by a guy with severe mental disorders who was repeatedly tortured.

            The official story = bullshit

        • “that Islam did not attack the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, sick and twisted men did.” Let’s be honest. Those “sick and twisted men”
          were of a radical Muslim group/sect. You can’t say they weren’t Muslim. Did the whole of Islam, the religion, attack that day of course not, but let’s do be honest and not play with words. And by the way, the only reason that idiot Bush said what he said was because he didn’t want to offend his family’s Saudi friends.

          I have mixed emotions about the center. On the one hand, I say this is America and they should be free to build their Center there. On the other hand, I think it was stupid on their part to think they could build two blocks from the WTC and have no objections. It is also insenitive on their part. Out of all the places in NY, was this their only choice? I doubt it.

          I haven’t ever wanted to discriminate against any people, race, religion, whatever. And I am not going to start now. I just think they could have been more senitive to many people’s feelings.

          • Dr. Ashraf Ezzat

            The despicable attacks of 9/11 were not motivated by RELIGION, rather they were engineered by POLITICAL reasons.
            So, through this perspective, we should only be discussing it.

      • Spoken like a true Zionist “Jew”!

        • What are you saying? Attah and his homies are just a figment of a right wing conspiacy’s imagination, that he and his buds were not Muslim. What ever his motivation or missguided mission, HE WAS MUSLIM. And still no distancing themselves from him and his actions by mainstreem Islam. NOTHING! If he and his actions do not represent their sentiments then they should be screaming foul from the top of every mineret in the world. Still NOTHING! Cultural differences be damed if these idiots did not represent my beliefs I would make damed sure the world knew it. Still NOTHING. The only reason for not defending yourself is you have no defense, when you accused of wrong doing. Silence is the same as approval.

  20. “The American Muslims knew for a fact, as president bush once said that, on 9/11, Islam had been high jacked by a bunch of crazy fanatics who happened to claim adherence to Islam.”

    911 attacks were planned in New York, London and Tel Aviv in my humble opinion.

  21. We are constantly reminded by Muslims of their “customs” — well, I would ask Muslim-Americans to understand “AMERICAN” customs, one of which is, you don’t rub something in someone’s face, no matter what trumped up reason, without getting a fight. Period. The Caliphate of Córdoba is a trophy for 9/11 and for Jihad success in dozens of subliminal dimensions in our culture. It won’t be long some Mulah will be asking for separate Sharia courts. Does anyone want their daughter hanging around with Muslim girls when their relatives show up with machetes?

    • You are ruled by your fear and bigotry: A true coward.

      The GOP needs people like you.

      • That’s it? Name calling and palpable fear that someone might have a cogent reason for not agreeing to be brainwashed? Never fear young activist, I was once similarly wound too tight — you’ll survive it!

        • You speak of machetes and the Caliphate. Amusing.

          You do not speak for American customs [not mine] except for the appeals to bigotry which you embrace.

          Just another ignorant bigot; back to your Klavern now.

          • SHARIAH HONOR KILLING: SISTERS KILLED “IN ATTACK SO BRUTAL THAT …
            May 7, 2009 … UPDATE: Here is honor killing victim, Sabrina Larbi-Cherif, … ‘He went and got a third knife and he used it until the girls were dead …. Pamela Geller Interview, Right Side News: Muslim Terror in Mumbai

            I might have said Jambiya instead of machete, but most people, including your Michael, would not have known what I meant.

            If you are a Sharia apologist then it’s eom — but — if you’re still interested in learning a thing or two young skywalker, I might know a good mentor or two for you.

          • This troll is a sandnigger hiding behind a fake name.

          • “Sandnigger”? Classic! Draconius is probably the same disgusting vulgar fool who hates Spics, Chinks, Niggers, WOPs, Kikes, and probably calls his wife “Hey Old Lady” and his concubine a “Bitch Whore”.

            It’s always difficult to have an intelligent discourse with those who lack self-respect and project it on others. Moreover, discussion suffers greatly when reasonable men lack the common decency to disagree without being disagreeable. Draconius and his ilk fail miserably and we all suffer.

      • And you are either a terrorist sympathizer or a mroon, or maybe both.

    • and how many thousands of kids are brutalized and killed by their own relatives right here in good ol whitebread US of A every year?

      You take one case and inflate it to condemn an entire religion which spans multiple different cultures. That IS ignorance and bigotry.

      Stop watching Glenn Beck/John Hagee and go educate yourself properly.

      • How many women are treated like dogs and subjected to honor killings and having their clitori hacked off in all the backwards Islamic nations? Primitive savages, the lot of them.

        • With such a one track response you make it demonstrably clear you are indeed an ignorant bigot with zero firsthand familiarity with any Muslims whatsoever. Just sweeping WorldNetDaily and Fox News slander.

          Don’t let us keep you from your klavern meeting, by all means.

        • DRACONIUS : THANKS TO FREE EXPRESSION AN IDIOT UNDER EDUCATED LIKE YOU IS ALLOWED TO EXPOSE HIS OWN IGNORANCE (AND POOR SPELLING DUE TO BRAIN DISFUNCTION OR POOR EDUCATION) …IN JERUSALEM WOMEN ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SEAT IN FRONT OF THE BUSES….CIRCUMCISION WAS ORIGINALLY PERFORMED BY A RABI USING HIS MOUTH TO CUT (YOU KNOW WHAT) NOT “BACK-WARDED” RIGHT ? ONLY MUSLIM ARE, ACCORDING TO DRACONIUS, HOWEVER IN READING HIS IDIOTIC COMMENTS I BELIEVE THAT DRACONIUS IS THE “BACK WARDED” ONE.
          DECLASSIFIED CIA DOCUMENTS (EVEN AVAILABLE TO ILLITERATES LIKE MR D) SHOWS THAT BIN LADEN DENIED HIS INVOLVEMENT IN THE 9/11 ATTACK, HE MENTIONED U.S INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES AND ROGUE ELEMENTS INSIDE OUR OWN GOVERNMENT, OSAMA WAS A CIA ASSET FOR DECADES AND PROBABLY DIED YEARS AGO, THE VIDEOS SHOWING HIM ARE FAKED BY “INTEL CENTER” AN ISRAELI OWNED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE DEFENSE CONTRACTOR.
          AL QAIDA DOES NOT EXIST AS A GLOBAL TERRORIST NETWORK, EDUCATE YOURSELF GOOGLE ” AL QAIDA THE DATABASE BY PIERRE HENRI BUNEL”
          NO MUSLIM EVER CLAIMED THEIR INVOLVEMENT IN THE ATTACK, ONLY FOX NEWS AND THE REST OF OUR ZIONIST CONTROL MEDIA ARE CLAIMING IT WHILE REPEATING THE SAME PROPAGANDA : “MUSLIM = TERRORIST” FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS …OVER AND OVER AGAIN, ONLY LOW IQ ZIONIST ARAB HATER BELIEVE OUR GOVERNMENT FAIRY TALES ON THE 9/11.
          HATE COME FROM FEAR…THE CRAP THAT DRACONIUS WRITES ABOUT ARABS WE HEARD IT BEFORE FROM THE NAZIS ABOUT THE JEWS, FROM THE TURKS ABOUT THE ARMENIANS, FROM THE KKK ABOUT THE BLACKS….SAME OLD SAME OLD….

      • By reading the Koran and learn that it is ok to kill the female members of your family if they bring disgrace upon your family name. Or perhaps you will learn that it is ok to kill “non-believers” (christians). What part of the education process am I missing?

        • By reading the BIBLE you will learn that it’s okay to stone a women to death for not being a virgin, Deuteronomy 22:20-21. Or that it’s okay to kill non-christians, 2 Chronicles 15:12-13, Deuteronomy 13:13-19. Do these verses mean that all Christians are murderers?

        • It’s not true,clearly you did not read Koran because no such things are there,total myths spread by anti Islamics.Women are honored in Islam. Allah always mentioned them as the kinder nicer gender. And it punishment or rewards they are the same as men..

          • Also in Koran it I forbiden to kill non Muslim except to defend them self , especially people of Devine faith like chritians and Jews.
            Koran says: “ Do not argue with the people of the Book, unless it is in the politest manner.”(29:46)

            Koran ’ also says: “God does not forbid you, to act fairly towards those who have never fought you over religion nor have driven you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them.” (60:8)

            The prophet of Islam said: “Whoever hurts a non Muslim, I shall be his complainant and for whoever I am a complainant, I shall ask for his right on the day of Resurrection.” (Hadith)

            Qur’an says: “… and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious.” (16: 125)

    • Isn’t it interesting that they can’t find out who is funding this purposed building.

  22. “The most common of all follies is to believe passionately in the palpably not true. It is the chief occupation of mankind.”

    – H. L. Mencken

    We can apply this observation today to the bigotries and fears that drive Ameircan politics.

    • Dr. Ashraf Ezzat

      Michael,
      I couldn`t agree more.

    • Actually Michael, It’s the bigotry that drives the politics. The fear is what the bigots use to drive the ignorant, non-investigatory “herd”.

      The continuation of the bogus Islam-focused narrative of 911, even now after so much evidence of highly positioned Israeli-PNAC-US military/Intelligence community planning and orchestration of the attack is available in the public domain, is quite frankly a shameful indictment against those who regurgitate the lie and the many who still accept it.

      Will the majority ever wake up?

      • Uh on, I think somebody’s hiding in mommy’s basement with his tinfoil hat. It was the Jews, of course! Even thought Muslims actually carried out the operation and took credit for it.

  23. The article states this:

    The American Muslims knew for a fact, as president bush once said that, on 9/11, Islam had been high jacked by a bunch of crazy fanatics who happened to claim adherence to Islam.

    Hopefully the majority of Muslims will soon realize that 911 was masterminded by Israelis. Here is the evidence: http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/2793786/1

  24. If one searches for the page “No To The Mosque at Ground Zero” and takes the time to read, note by note, they will find that the site contains over 80,000 American extremists who, to a person, categorize Muslims as evil. Almost all of them are promoting violence in some way. Purely racist, profane comments are joyously praised everywhere. The entire page represent sickness. I’ve been reporting, page by page, to facebook in hopes that the entire filthy page be removed for it is a very dangerous thing as these people intend to meet at ground zero, some insisting that they act out on their hatred and bais. Facebook is either ignoring the calls, refusing to read or perhaps more attention needs to be brought to them so that this vile, dangerous page be removed.

    • Dr. Ashraf Ezzat

      “The test of courage comes when we are in the minority. The test of tolerance comes when we are in the majority.”

      Ralph W. Sockman

    • Keep on sympatihzing with the Muslim animals dhimmi, perhaps they’ll cut your daughter’s clitoris off last.

    • Rita Walpole Ague

      Hello Tim McKeen: Thank you so much, dear Irish brother (yes, hard to believe given my Walpole and Ague names, but I have dual citizenship, and belong to the Daugherty clan in my grandmother’s County Mayo), for fighting the good fight for liberty and justice for all.

      Very recently, after responding via Care 2 to a blogger who turned out at be a very intelligent and good hearted Muslim woman who lives in South Africa, I learned how barely approachable we are to our Muslim brothers and sisters. The woman of whom I speak, is a strong advocate for all the poor, brutalized people in Palestine. She asked, fearfully, if I would hold it against her that she was a Muslim.

      I replied that I hope and pray the day never comes when I hold anyone’s religion, or the lack thereof, against them, since we are all God’s children, and all in this stewpot together. I told her I’d recognized that she and I are on the same page: lots more love, lots more caring, lots more giving and lots more sharing. Her reply touched my deeply, gave me hope, and brought a tear to my eye.

      Since the Bushwhacked years, and the coming to full bloom of the M.I.C.T. coup de etat (military/industiral/corporate/terrorism coup of which Pres. Ike warned us), we have been spun and manipulated beyond our wildest dreams (a.k.a. nightmares). But, in my opinion, most egregious spin and manip. of all, and really/truly evil, is the Tea Party caca aimed at fostering hatred, bigotry and violence, all the while they claim to be oh so “Christian” and oh so patriotic. Makes my Irish blood boil!

      But, along with helping the Muslims build their multi-purpose building, another thing that maybe we could and should do is go on-line, and befriend folks of every faith and and all nationalities. Just maybe it would help stop the war and more war train we’ve been conned into riding, although that possibility might just cause folks like the Bush Leaguers and their billionaire cronies, who have been making their fortune(s) since WWI on war, war, war and oil, oil, oil, to wish for “another Pearl Harbor” – the neo-con wish prior to 9/11 and our being Bushwhacked into the Iraq War. And, as we the sheeple are slowly coming to realize, what our billionaire rulers wish for is what they, and we, and the rest of the world are going to get. God help us all!

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