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Jewish War Veterans Go Bigoted: NO ISLAMIC COMMUNITY CENTER ‘AT’ GROUND ZERO

Editor’s Note: Veterans Today supports the rights and freedoms of all religions under the U.S. Constitution to exercise their chosen faith. We reject the Islamophobia reflecting nothing but a small reichwing, Judeo–Christian sect’s crusade against Islam. We strongly support and applaud President Obama who issued a statement today saying he has “no regrets” in defending the right of all Americans to freely exercise their faith.

From Jewish War Veterans of the USA:

The Jewish War Veterans of the USA is an unwavering advocate of guaranteeing every American’s individual rights, including the right to practice one’s religion [except Muslims].

The developers and adherents of the Islamic community center must have the courage and common decency to yield to the families of those who were murdered by the Jihadist terrorists.

However, with these individual rights comes the obligation of the adherents of each religion to respect the tenets, principles and practices of believers of other religions or concerns of other citizens.

It has become well known that there is a plan to construct a 13- story Mosque and Islamic community center only two blocks from ground zero in Manhattan, New York, the site of unbounded destruction, pain, and murder of innocent civilians by Muslim Jihadist terrorists on September 11, 2001.

The stated intent of the Islamic community is to advance the meritorious teaching of tolerance, respect, and the rejection of Jihadists in their midst, but, however admirable and pure this intent may be, the selection of the site near ground zero has invoked the opposite response, especially where pieces of the landing gear of the plane crashed through the roof and two stories of the building, and where a community center can provide for proselytization in a world financial center.

The Jewish War Veterans of the USA in Convention assembled unequivocally opposes the construction of an Islamic community center near ground zero.

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  1. fixthefuture911  August 20, 2010 at 5:39 am

    Christianity ,
    then with noise & media to >
    “Judeo-Christian”, ??????? wtf
    then with a lot of noise & media to >
    CHRISTIAN ZIONISM WHACKJOB CULTISM. ??????? wtf

    think I will just have Christianity

    The Christian Testament is enough , with psalms & proverbs,
    The Books before Matthew are not essential
    and a lot of them are not relevant.

    Of course someone always says ” But what about the Ten Commandments?? “,
    ….. 🙂 , you can’t even figure that out yourself ?? 🙂

    No where in the Christian Testament did the Lord Jesus Christ
    exhort,encourage,suggest, or Command that we go and kill
    everyone that (some crummy Government that happened to be
    in control/command of the area known as Israel )
    doesn’t Like.

    CAN WE FREE AMERICA FROM THE AXIS OF EVIL ?? 🙂 🙂
    THE Ashke”nazi” (AIPAC/ADL/SPLC) COMBINE 🙂 🙂

    MARY’S MEMORY STILL DEMANDS THE TRUTH.

    But far beyond all of this, one thing is indisputable. Little Mary’s murder was a horrendous hate-filled blood crime inflicted on a young white Christian girl. Her memory demands the truth about what really happened to her. And, as you can see by the appearance of this article, not everyone has been silent or parrots the politically correct party line. Leo Frank is held up as a Jewish martyr to Anti-Semitism and bigotry, but his crime has been whitewashed to hide the truth. In 1987, in reaction to the half-hearted pardon, Little Mary’s grandniece, Mary Phagan Kean, did her own research and wrote The Murder of Little Mary Phagan, 1987. She speaks plainly. “I think that the truth isn’t really told about Leo Frank. He is not a martyr, he is a murderer.”

    Why spend time rehashing the details of an old nearly forgotten murder case? What is the point after almost a hundred years? The point is clear. As long as the ADL, a private intelligence organization reporting to the State of Israel, exists, the Mary Phagan Case makes more than a few valid reference points. When the B’nai B’rith (Sons of the Blood Covenant Kabalistic Judeo-Freemasonic) Lodge created the Anti-Defamation League in 1913, it was dedicated to the life and memory of Lodge Brother Leo Frank, surely and truly one of their own tribe in a long tradition. Yes, Leo Frank, a man who was very probably and most likely a brutal, bloody killer, inspired the formation of this group. Make your own connections and conclusions, but Jesus understood this mindset very well.

    • Gary Walker  August 20, 2010 at 8:52 am

      Greetings Fix,

      You may have the New Testament and Psalms, as for me, I choose freedom.

      Psalm 137:8-9, “O daughter of Babylon who are to be destroyed … Happy is the one who takes and dashes your little ones against the rock!

      Psalm 58:10 – “The righteous shall rejoice when he sees the vengeance; He shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked”

      Luke 19:27 – “But bring hither those enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, and slay them before me.” (Red letter words of Jesus)

      Jesus tells us to love our enemies but he sends his enemies to hell, where there is wailing and gnashing of teeth. I say, save the wails, free your mind of all religious superstition.

      Amen,
      Infidel

  2. fixthefuture911  August 19, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    http://antiisgood.wordpress.com/2009/06/12/sex-slavery-the-growing-trade-in-israel/

    I then linked directly to the site of the copyright holder, the Jerusalem Post. By that evening, the Jerusalem Post had also removed the article. Well, that was two years ago. Now the Jerusalem Post has seen fit to re-activate the URL, so you might want to take a gander at what the Jews are doing to the women of our race. Here’s a synopsis:

    1. 3,000 White European women per year are smuggled into Israel as sex slaves.
    2. They are promised legitimate jobs, but put to work as prostitutes.
    3. They are locked in apartments with barred windows.
    4. They are relieved of their passports.
    5. They are beaten, tortured, and gang-raped (Jewish method of “breaking them in”).
    6. They are sold at pimping auctions! – during which they are forced to undress.
    7. They are forced to service up to 15 Jews a day, 7 days a week, in Israel’s 400+ brothels.
    8. There are 280 brothels in Tel Aviv alone!
    9. Pimps and traffickers are ignored by police – prostitution is not a crime

    Israel does not have a specific law against the sale of human beings. (Michael Specter, “Traffickers’ New Cargo: Naive Slavic Women,” New York Times, 11 January 1998).

    http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=43723

    Where the Slave Trade Heads
    By Mel Frykberg

    JERUSALEM, Aug 29, 2008 (IPS) – Israel continues to be a favourite destination for the trafficking of women for the sex industry, also known as the white slave trade, and for a form of modern day slavery where migrant labourers from developing countries are exploited.

    The U.S. State Department placed Israel in Tier 2 position in its 2007 Trafficking in Persons report. And an Israeli court ruled against the country’s work visa policy, which forces foreign workers into indentured labour with a single employer.

    “Israel was only upgraded to Tier 2 last year,” Romm Lewkowicz, a spokesman from Israel’s Hotline for Migrant Workers, an advocacy group which defends the rights of foreign workers, told IPS.

    The U.S. State Department divides countries into three tiers. Tier 1 is for countries that have successfully implemented measures to control trafficking (most Western countries fall into this category). Tier 2 is for countries that are trying to eradicate this modern day slavery but still fail to meet the necessary standards. Tier 3 is reserved for countries that have not addressed the issue at the most basic level.

    In 2006 Israel was on the U.S. State Department’s Watch List for people trafficking.

    “This position falls between Tier 2 and Tier 3. The U.S. applies economic sanctions to those countries which fall into Tier 3, but as we have a strong economic relationship with the U.S., Israel was given a warning and placed in a slightly higher category,” said Lewkowicz.

  3. fixthefuture911  August 19, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews, Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a Gentile (“Cuthean”), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a Gentile he may keep.

    Baba Kamma 37b. Gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has “exposed their money to Israel.”

    Jews May Lie to Non-Jews, Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies (“subterfuges”) to circumvent a Gentile.

    Non-Jewish Children Sub-Human, Yebamoth 98a. All Gentile children are animals.

    Abodah Zarah 36b . Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.

    Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.

    Abodah Zarah 67b . “The vessels of Gentiles, do they not impart a worsened flavor to the food cooked in them?”

    Insults Against Blessed Mary, Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus’ mother was a whore: “She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters.” Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b it is stated that in the “uncensored” text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, “Miriam the hairdresser,” had sex with many men.

    Gloats over Christ Dying Young, A passage from Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus died: “Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?–He replied: It is not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-three or thirty-four years old.”

  4. fixthefuture911  August 19, 2010 at 8:26 pm

    OCCUPIED JERUSALEM – A Jewish rabbi has issued a book giving Jews permission to murder non-Jews, including babies and children, who may pose an actual or potential threat to Jews or Israel. “It is permissible to kill the Righteous among non-Jews even if they are not responsible for the threatening situation,” Rabbi Yitzhak Shapiro, who heads the Od Yosef Chai Yeshiva in the Yitzhar settlement in the occupied West Bank, wrote in his book “The King’s Torah.”
    He argues that goyem (a derogatory epithet for non-Jews) may be killed if they threaten Israel.
    “If we kill a Gentile who has sinned or has violated one of the seven commandments – because we care about the commandments – there is nothing wrong with the murder.”

    The rabbis suggest that harming the children of non-Jewish leaders is justified if it is likely to bring pressure to bear on them to change policy. The authors also advocate committing “cruel deeds to create the proper balance of terror” and treating all members of an “enemy nation” as targets for retaliation, even if they are not directly participating in hostile activities.” (false flag terrorism)

  5. David A. White  August 19, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    Thank God! someone has got to stand up to the Muslims. The left wing dipshits would let them build or do whatever the hell they want. You mention Christian to these assholes and they go off the deep end, but they will kiss a muslim’s ass at the drop of a hat. Keep up the good work, Jewish War Veterans of the USA.

  6. Virg  August 19, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    http://www.samliquidation.com/noahide_news.htm

    102d CONGRESS

    1st Session

    H. J. RES. 104

    JOINT RESOLUTION

    To designate March 26, 1991, as `Education Day, U.S.A.’.

    Whereas Congress recognizes the historical tradition of ethical values and principles which are the basis of civilized society and upon which our great Nation was founded;

    Whereas these ethical values and principles have been the bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization, when they were known as the Seven Noahide Laws;

    Whereas without these ethical values and principles the edifice of civilization stands in serious peril of returning to chaos;

    Whereas society is profoundly concerned with the recent weakening of these principles that has resulted in crises that beleaguer and threaten the fabric of civilized society;

    Whereas the justified preoccupation with these crises must not let the citizens of this Nation lose sight of their responsibility to transmit these historical ethical values from our distinguished past to the generations of the future;

    Whereas the Lubavitch movement has fostered and promoted these ethical values and principles throughout the world;

    Whereas Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson , leader of the Lubavitch movement, is universally respected and revered and his eighty-ninth birthday falls on March 26, 1991;

    Whereas in tribute to this great spiritual leader, `the rebbe,’ this, his ninetieth year will be seen as one of `education and giving,’ the year in which we turn to education and charity to return the world to the moral and ethical values contained in the Seven Noahide Laws; and

    Whereas this will be reflected in an international scroll of honor signed by the President of the United States and other heads of state: Now, therefore, be it

    Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That March 26, 1991, the start of the ninetieth year of Rabbi Menachem Schneerson , leader of the worldwide Lubavitch movement, is designated as `Education Day, U.S.A.’. The President is requested to issue a proclamation calling upon the people of the United States to observe such day with appropriate ceremonies and activities.
    Passed the House of Representatives March 5, 1991.

    Attest:

    Clerk.

    http://www.dailycatholic.org/issue/2003Jul/pent5qui.htm

    “Do this and you shall live”

    Editor’s Note: In Father Louis Campbell’s sermon for the Fifth Sunday After Pentecost, he reveals something few are probably even aware of: the “Seven Universal Laws of Noah.” The United States Congress passed this into law a dozen years ago, yet few are aware that this is one of the reasons why the International Criminal Court has been promoted and why there is such an emphasis to screen ethical, Christian and pro-life judges in the U.S. In truth, the Noahide Laws have had and will continue to have devastating effects on our lives. Indeed, when we realize this, we can better understand how these man-made Masonic Noahide Laws – another concoction cooked up by the Zionists – have so obliterated morality and ethics both in the world and the Church all in favor of “peace and justice” and “globalization of solidarity.” It all has one purpose: to establish a new world order – Novus Ordo Seclorum which leaves Christ, the Son of God and the true Catholic Faith out of the equation. There will be only one religion, and it will not be the Faith of our Fathers nor the Judaism of the Old Testament, but the nefarious Zionism that seeks to usurp God’s authority with their own, just as the man-made Novus Ordo replaced the perpetual, unchangeable Holy Sacrifice of the Latin Mass.

    • fixthefuture911  August 20, 2010 at 6:02 am

      H. J. RES. 104

      JOINT RESOLUTION

      To designate March 26, 1991, as `Education Day, U.S.
      THIS CRUD CAN BE NULLIFIED AND WILL BE 🙂 🙂
      WE ARE DONE WITH THE DECEPTION BY THE DECEIVERS!!!!

      ZIONISM WHACKJOB NOISE is going out of style , fast

  7. Lawrence A Dickerson  August 19, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    I would hope that each and every reader who thinks that there were no Jews killed in the 9-11 attacks would read these links.They even give the source of the nasty rumor.Johnny Punish for one needs to read these and stop spouting his false propaganda and VT needs to assure that the editorials are based on facts not some cockamamie conspiracy theory that has been debunked beyond any reasonable doubts.

    http://www.snopes.com/rumors/israel.asp

    http://web.archive.org/web/20070211085836/http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Jan/14-260933.html

    http://www.fighthatred.com/recent-events/organized-hate/543-conspiracy-theorists-blame-jews-for-911

    • Danton  August 19, 2010 at 9:41 pm

      What a load of Hasbara crap! Don’t they have any real jobs for you in Tel Aviv?

  8. Musashi  August 19, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    This point of view is from a British comedian. He does not even live in the U.S. He has some valid points of interest on this subject.

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/06/pat-condell-on-ground-zero-mosque-is-it-possible-to-be-astonished-but-not-surprised.html

  9. Rob Jessen  August 19, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    This issue is not about violence, terrorism, proximity, freedom or the 1st Amendment
    This should be considered a mental health issue!
    Any individual or group who claim to have received a “book” from the creator of the cosmos, God, which instructs them that anyone who does not beleive in their “book” deserves to die or spend eternity in a fiery damnation is seriously disturbed and needs to be examined.
    Dillusional dogmatic doctrine has no place in a reasonable, rationale, normal, healthy society.

    • Gary Walker  August 23, 2010 at 2:24 pm

      What are you talking about Rob, the Bible?

      Amen,
      Infidel

  10. Lawrence A Dickerson  August 19, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    I wrote President Obama or the White House yesterday asking for the 9-11,to include Iraq,Iran and Afghanistan affair to made transparent to tell the truth of what happened then as it is today.Do I expect a response?Not on your life but good citizens do hold their elected officials responsible and in the know.I have no doubt that my file is growing thicker but since I am not subversive and a criminal,I don’t expect any midnight knocks at my door from anyone other than a dreamlike sexy blonde.

    I suggest that all citizens write their elected officials on all levels of government in addition to comments to VT.It takes about as much time and thought.

  11. Syed Zaidi  August 19, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    I am from a Muslim family, and I humbly agree with these Jewish veterans. It would be inappropriate to have a Muslim centre near Ground Zero under the present circumstances. Let there be an open inquiry, under the auspices of the General Assembly of the United Nations, to go into the official US government story about 9/11, with free and open examination of the claims of experts such as Prof David Ray Griffin, Prof Steven Jones, Christopher Bollyn, Richard Gage and others in the so-called 9/11 truth movement; and from the other side, any witnesses that the US government, the government of Israel or any of their friends and supporters would wish to put forward. If the evidence clearly supports the US government claim, the world Muslim community should agree, as atonement, to knock down all mosques within one hundred miles of Ground Zero. If, however, it turns out that 9/11 was clearly an inside job, under the leadership of Zionists and globalists, for the expansion of the American empire and for the destruction of Israel’s enemies, then it would be most appropriate, as Dr Kevin Barrett has proposed to President Obama, for a giant mosque to be constructed at Ground Zero itself.

    • JS  August 19, 2010 at 3:44 pm

      Huh. What about how Bin Laden took credit for the attack?
      Was that just MSM propaganda?

      If 9/11 was a big Zionist trick and it wasn’t done by Muslims, why is it that there are videos of Palestinians dancing in the streets of Gaza and Ramallah after the attack on 9/11? Were they paid by the Jews and the MSM to dance around and shout Allah’uakbar that day?

    • Syed Zaidi  August 19, 2010 at 4:14 pm

      About bin Laden taking credit for the attacks — there were two statements attributed to bin Laden, one genuine in which he clearly points out that this was the work of a Jewish state within the US state, and one fake, where a “bin Laden” takes responsibility for them. Prof David Ray Griffin has gone into this in detail, including here, http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=18923.

      There were, as you say, videos of Palestinians celebrating, passing around cake and generally looking happy, that were shown right after 9/11. Within hours, internet researchers had shown that they were recorded at some innocent occasion a year before. What do you think that shows?

      It is not good form for Hasbarats to use idioms such as “Huh”. OK?

    • JS  August 20, 2010 at 8:50 am

      I read most of that link. Even if, for the sake of argument, Bin Laden wasn’t responsible for 9/11, there are plenty of quotes from him which that link says are real quotes from him, that express his happiness with the attack. Things like ““They did this, as we understand it, and this is something we have agitated for before, as a matter of self-defense, in defense of our brothers and sons in Palestine, and to liberate our sacred religious sites/things.”

      So is that your point of view, Syed? Do you view the 9/11 attacks as a form of self-defense or a defense of Palestine? If you did, would you admit to that on a Veteran’s website? What are you doing here anyway, if not trolling to try and spread the Islamic lie that the Jews are responsible? You’re the one trying to cover up the truth; the truth that your people did it, and that you’re happy about it, and you want it to happen again and again until America’s destroyed and we’re all slaves to your religion. Until we all accept your b*llsh*t Allah.

    • JMarie  August 20, 2010 at 1:32 pm

      wow. everything you siad was so ignorant. do you realize that by calling allah bullshit you are calling your own God bullshit? shame on you. The God that christians worship is the same God that jews worship and is the same God Muslims worship…its only done in different ways. It is people like you, with so much ignorance clouding their minds, and hate in their hearts that make things like this such a big issue.

    • JS  August 20, 2010 at 3:08 pm

      What do you mean, “make things like this a big issue”? You mean, things like being told that if I don’t kneel and pray to someone’s god 5 times a day, I’m an infidel and should be treated as a second-class citizen? Excuse me, but that seems like a pretty big issue to me.

      And I realize exactly what I’m saying. Allah is bullsh*t. Jesus is bullsh*t, and the Judeo-Christian God is bullsh*t, too. All religion is bullsh*t. If you look at your life, and the life of everyone else around you, and the state of the world, and the fact that no two religions agree on anything, it’s PRETTY OBVIOUS THAT THEY’RE ALL A BUNCH OF BS. Religion was invented by the rich to keep the poor under control, so they wouldn’t rebel against their masters. Instead, the poor and the ignorant are told to seek their reward in the next life. Whether by turning the other cheek or blowing themselves up. Rich Saudis, they push their religious b.s., and rich Jews push their religious b.s. and rich Christians… and the only people who believe it are the dirt poor.

      But you know what? I don’t care if you want to believe something stupid. I have no problem with Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists or other people who pray to any bullsh*t God, or gods, as long as nothing they do takes away any of MY freedom. Including my freedom to say that their God is bullsh*t; that my wife can wear whatever she wants and can drive a car and go to work; that I can eat pork sausage on a Saturday while flying a flag that says Mohammad was a monkey and Jesus was a communist, or whatever else I want to say; because I’ve earned that right as a hard working citizen of a free country. Not because your bullsh*t religion grants me some freedom and takes away another one.

      Freedom is freedom from giving a damn what religious wackos think. As far as I’m concerned, you can all blow each other up. But I have to say, at least the other religions besides Islam aren’t in the business of mass suicide to blow up other people’s buildings in the name of their religion.

      Want to talk about minds being clouded? Pray for me, and see how much good it does you. If you’re honest with yourself, you’ll realize it doesn’t to anything. If you’re mind’s still clouded, you’ll keep praying.

    • Syed Zaidi  August 20, 2010 at 11:37 am

      Let me take this opportunity to clear up the view I had attributed to Prof Griffin’s article. It admits the genuineness of two of the tapes, not one as I had incorrectly said. The second one has been cited, by Tony Blair among others, as a confession by bin Laden for 9/11. As Griffin painstakingly shows, the evidence does not support this. Unlike the first tape, where bin Laden strongly disapproves the taking of innocent life, and where he seems to think it was done by Zionists, by the time of the second tape he seems to have succumbed to the media spin — about the perpetrators, and about his own importance. He thinks the perpetrators could have been inspired by him. He disagrees that the perpetrators, whom he takes to be Muslim, should be called terrorists. But that is very different from a confession.

      I repeat that I think it is inappropriate to put up an Islamic center at Ground Zero under the present circumstances. I am eager to have the question of who did 9/11, and why, settled first, by an international judicial inquiry. Who would disagree with that?

    • JS  August 20, 2010 at 11:58 am

      Why would Bin Laden have been happy about it, if the perpetrators were Muslim? Shouldn’t he have been horrified that it was done in the name of Islam? If the Zionists had done it, why would he ever take credit for it?

      You seem to be saying that that the Zionists caused 9/11, so they could blame it on Muslims, because they knew the Muslims would happily accept the credit for it. You’re saying, basically, that the Jews who did this were right when they made a bet that Muslims hate America enough to claim credit for an act of terrorism they didn’t even commit.

      I’m all for an international inquiry, too. But if al qaeda wants to take credit for 9/11 even if they didn’t do it, what would an inquiry prove?

    • Fast Ed  August 19, 2010 at 9:30 pm

      hey JS… were the ‘five dancing Israelis’ paid by jews to dance, shout and celebrate as the towers were coming down…??

    • Danton  August 19, 2010 at 9:32 pm

      Who was really to blame for 9/11? The 9/11 hijackers all boarded aircraft at airports controlled by ISRAELI security firms. Same thing with the Shoe Bomber and the Underwear Bomber. Also, remember those pictures of the DANCING ISRAELIS celebrating as they took videos of the Twin Towers collapsing? And let’s not forget that Bush had 22 cabinet members with ISRAELI citizenship–ya, that’s right, 22 of them. Who was really to blame for 9/11? Maybe we shouldn’t allow a synagogue within two blocks of Ground Zero.

    • schud  August 20, 2010 at 6:06 am

      Do you think the Saudi Arabian government would permit a Catholic or Luthern church next to the Khobar towers in Diahran?….I think not. Also, it is not only fox polls showing the majority of people are not in favor of this, it is others also. Another thing is Obama said the next day after expressing his opinion that he would not comment on the place where it should be kept. Also, this is a veterans web site, we seem to getting farther and farther awary from veterans issues.

    • Danton  August 22, 2010 at 4:49 pm

      “[T]his is a veterans web site, we seem to getting farther and farther awary from veterans issues.”

      What you really mean is that this site is getting farther and farther away from IDF veterans’ issues, and closer and closer to issues of real American veterans.

    • Syed Zaidi  August 20, 2010 at 3:26 pm

      Readers of this page would be interested to know that a blog, http://twforg.blogspot.com/, which carried my response above, has since, without warning, been deleted by Google for being in violation of their Terms of Service. We seem to have hit a nerve.

      I request readers to use whatever means they have at their disposal to propagate my proposal, that the Muslim centre near Ground Zero be shelved in response to the widespread public outcry, whether that outcry has been stage-managed by the actual culprits or not. Let an international judicial body determine first who did 9/11, and why. Let us find out who needs to apologise, and to whom. Then we can see what is and what is not appropriate at Ground Zero.

      In the meantime, let Muslims not be condescended to by Obama or any other politician.

  12. Dank  August 19, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    Only someone from outta town would be surprised by this. I’m FROM Brooklyn! I travel through Williamsburg, LES, ANYWHERE in The City really, and Jews are the stereotype of Separatist people I have EVER seen ANYWHERE! I have given up greeting them in the streets because at 42 years old, I can count on my fingers, with no repeats, the number of times someone from that community has returned a pleasant greeting. In fact, man, woman, or child, the norm is that if you greet an orthodox Jew, they tend to look at you like you might be a reptile rather than just a Gentile. I don’t know what they are teaching their kids, but going through Williamsburg I have waved and smiled at more than one group of children, only to feel embarrassed when they run away screaming to their minders, pointing back at me as if I were something they have nightmares about, perhaps they do but that just begs the question of “why?”

    I honor the Service of our Veteran Brothers, but DAMN, y’all missed the LZ on this decision/statement by a whole Country, this IS still America, isn’t it?

    Allah Bless America!

    • JS  August 19, 2010 at 3:48 pm

      Waving and smiling at anybody in new york usually causes people to think you’re crazy and move away from you. Unfortunate, but that’s life in the big city. Blaming Jews for the fact that you look like a crazy homeless person who makes children run to their mother is, well, crazy.

  13. Lawrence A Dickerson  August 19, 2010 at 2:40 pm

    The older veterans served when the Hatch Act prevented us from participating in any partisan political issues.The uniformed personnel are subject to Department of Defense Directive 1344.10 (DoDD 1344.10), Political Activities by Members of the Armed Forces, and the spirit and intent of this directive is effectively synonymous with the Hatch Act for Federal civil servants.

    The older laws were so restrictive that we service members were a separate class apart from the mainstream.Even though we had ideals and opinions,they were best kept to ourselves.It has been eased a great deal but now that we are civilians,we are entitled to voice our opinions on any subject.

    Veterans Today has offered platform where we can express our beliefs.In all fairness,I can’t think of a subject that doesn’t directly or indirectly affect us in one way or another.Do I agree with all of the editorials and comments?Not on your life as you can find out by asking Mr. Duff.However,I have learned a great deal by being exposed to different thinking.I have even changed my narrow scope of viewing the world by research and exposure to this varied material.

    For those who feel this is all irrelevant to veteran’s issues and other worldly matters,I have this to share with you.I just stuck around and opened my mind and eyes not to forget my heart.Granted there is some pure BS but some of it comes from me but they allow me to post my views as were you.I challenge you to read VT for two weeks making an attempt to follow the links in the editorials and comments for additional material.If at the end of that time you still feel it all misdirected and wasteful efforts,I will openly apologize and eat my fishing hat.

    Does that sound like a fair deal?

  14. alba  August 19, 2010 at 10:24 am

    this issue was bait. jew media took the bait. not too smart

  15. fixthefuture911  August 19, 2010 at 9:33 am

    Israeli military chief defends Gaza flotilla raidSoldiers ‘shot those who they needed to shoot’ on board Mavi Marmara after underestimating strength of resistance

    Lieutenant-General Gabi Ashkenazi, the Israeli military chief of staff, arrives to give evidence at Israel’s Gaza flotilla raid inquiry. Photograph: Pool/Getty Images

    Israel’s chief of staff has defended his troops’ actions during the lethal raid on the Gaza aid flotilla as “proportionate and correct”.
    🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

    Lieutenant-General Gabi Ashkenazi rejected the blame apportioned to the military for the disastrous outcome during testimony to the inquiry by Israel’s defence minister, Ehud Barak.

    “The commandos exhibited calm, bravery and morality”, 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
    Ashkenazi told the hearing,
    adding that he took responsibility for the military’s actions.

    Nine Turkish activists were killed when the flotilla was intercepted in international waters. It had been attempting to deliver aid to the blockaded Gaza Strip. Ashkenazi said he was proud of the soldiers who came under attack by a group of militants on board the lead ship, the Mavi Marmara.

    “From the moment the operation began it was clear the circumstances were unprecedented,” he said. 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

    “The soldiers legitimately opened fire and shot those who they needed to shoot and not those who they didn’t need to shoot.”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/aug/11/israel-military-chief-flotilla-testimony

    In several of the books of the Zionist including the Elders of The Zions, the Jews have expressed that the non-Jews are Goyem, meaning animals and they can be killed. Precisely the reason that on 9/11 the Israeli Jews and others were not present in the Twin Towers where they worked.

    GOTTA GO ,PROJECTILE VOMITING AGAIN, 🙂 🙂

  16. al  August 19, 2010 at 9:10 am

    and the fox polls! 80% of Americans are against it!
    what about the 33% who dont accept the official version? that’s huge. msm was part of crime and the coverup, where did they get the doctored vids they broadcast? what was the persons name? at journalism school in america they study- wardrobe, makeup, hair, ‘looking and sounding authoritative’, which ziobutt to kiss first, History- not!

    • mal  August 19, 2010 at 9:21 am

      That’s a good one about Fox.

      Well. I guess gays and Mexicans do not suffice for the GOP [and its Democratic enablers like Dean and Reid] to explain the growing and gathering threat to Amerika.

      Islam comes in handy.

      The only question I have is: Are enough Americans really this stupid? I mean sincerely, are there enough stupid Americans to let this exercise in hate go unchallenged?

  17. al  August 19, 2010 at 9:03 am

    msm news is always unwatchable. when this issue hit, it just exposed it for what it is – a jew freak show.

    i was suspicious that the people who instigated the mosque proposal just wanted to expose the jews involvement in 911 by forcing the issue onto msm. i have heard endless people being interview on msm, and not one even hints at the mountain of evidence that israel or cia were the perps. NOT ONE!
    conclusion- total cover up, israel did 911

  18. Robert L. Hanafin  August 19, 2010 at 8:36 am

    Mike,

    First off I’m glad that you put this Judeo-Christian bigoted CRUSADE piece where it belongs in Politics and Government INSTEAD of “Veterans Issues,” because this IS NOT a Veterans Issue – PERIOD.

    I frankly have a real problem with ANY VETERANS ORGANIZATION taking such a blatant political stand on an issue that IS NOT A VETERANS’ ISSUE!!!

    Secondly, their press release makes no sense.

    In one breath they say (wink, wink, fingers crossed)

    The Jewish War Veterans of the USA is an unwavering advocate of guaranteeing every American’s individual rights, including the right to practice one’s religion.

    Then in the next breath they say (wink, wink):

    However, with these individual rights comes the obligation of the adherents of each religion [that of course includes Judeo-Christians] to respect the tenets, principles and practices of believers of other religions or concerns of other citizens.”

    This is nothing but bigoted poli-religious double talk.

    Can anyone in any Veterans Service Organization explain to America’s Veterans, and Military Families exactly what this has to do with VETERANS’ ISSUES?

    Simply put — BEWARE ANY VETERANS SERVICE ORGANIZATION THAT HAS A FOREIGN AFFAIRS MISSION!!!

    The Mosque near ground zero is a Judeo-Christian poli-religious issue that ALL Veterans Service Organizations as an organization SHOULD STAY OUT OF. Is it any wonder most Veterans strongly feel the VA is broken and can’t be fixed? Most Veteran feel that Veterans Organizations are too bogged down fighting political wars to focus on REAL VETERANS ISSUES???

    If it ain’t the frigging Unconstitutional Flag Amendment, VSO leaders are playing political games. Is it any wonder we cannot get the VA fixed or end the wars and occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan orchestrated partly by we know who, the Israeli lobby.

    Lastly, can anyone provide a link that reflects the convention mentioned in this
    media release, for we must assumed there was a membership VOTE on this
    poli-religious stand taken by the leadership of the JWV.

    All War Veterans need to read the Constitution and Bill of Rights, but most of
    all need to UNDERSTAND the separation between church and state.

    Veterans taking any stand on this issue only gives ammunition to Islamic
    extremists by taking away any pretense that America is fighting a Judeo-
    Christian CRUSADE against Islam, simply put a Crusade is nothing but a
    Judeo-Christian Jihad by religious extremists against Islam regardless how carefully worded.

    JWV with its emphasis on AMERICANISM (translation NATIONALISM wrapped in the flag and bible) is an American Legion clone that selectively believes in Religious Freedom except for Muslims. http://www.jwv.org/programs/patriotic/americanism/religious_freedom

    THEY can’t have it both ways. It frankly is up to the courts, maybe all the way to the Supreme Court, to determine if any religious group is having their rights stepped on because they suffer from Guilt By Association with Jihadist.

    The real go getter is that our government has claimed over and over that we are at war with Muslim extremists (or Jihadist if you prefer), this is what the so-called Global War on Terror is based on regardless if readers believe there is such an animal. However the far Reich wing interpretation of the War on Terror reflects nothing but a Judeo-Christian CRUSADE against Islam on an international scale.

    Folks that is a War the collective WE will most surely lose regardless how passionate we feel about, or USE, our Christian and Jewish religion(s).

    Lastly, Islamic extremists have already WON the psyops by having an anti-Islamic backlash over this issue. They will use it as a recruiting tool throughout the Muslim world that is not confined to the Middle East or Arabs.

    Dammit, when these Reich wing bigots are not bashing Mexican Catholics its the Muslims they turn on.

    So much for the righteous Global War on Terror.

    Robert L. Hanafin
    Major, U.S. Air Force-Retired
    GS-14, U.S. Civil Service-Retired
    Veterans Issues Editor
    Veterans Today News Network

    • fixthefuture911  August 20, 2010 at 6:10 am

      Simply put — VETERANS BEWARE OF ANY UNREGISTERED FOREIGN LOBBY ORGANIZATION THAT HAS A FOREIGN AFFAIRS MISSION
      ( LIKE A.I.P.A.C. ) 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

    • fixthefuture911  August 20, 2010 at 6:16 am

      ZIONIST Reich wing bigots

    • fixthefuture911  August 20, 2010 at 6:23 am

      JWV/ADL/JDL/AIPAC/SPLC

      BUNCH OF SOVIET FASCISTIC DUPLICITOUS
      ZIONIST COMMISSARS WHACKJOBS,

      TIRED AND DONE WITH ALL OF THEIR NOISE !!!!

  19. Lese Majeste  August 19, 2010 at 7:57 am

    If Jews can place a Torah scroll in the Pentagon, the other site of the 9/11 false-flag, then Muslims should be allowed to build their mosque in NYC.

    This whole issue has gone viral on the MSM.

    One needs to look into who owns the vast majority of the American MSM then figure out what they are up to.

    If the sneaky, behind our backs dealings of the Federal Reserve had gotten a fraction of exposure that the mosque is getting, Americans might get a better understanding of who is robbing us blind.

    • Equalizer  August 19, 2010 at 2:25 pm

      The Federal Reserve had the ADL, conveniently, created in 1913…”they” take care of exposure.

  20. fixthefuture911  August 19, 2010 at 6:51 am

    GROUND

  21. fixthefuture911  August 19, 2010 at 6:49 am

    ( 2 BLOCKS FROM GROUD ZERO )

  22. Penumbra  August 18, 2010 at 10:24 pm

    “…murdered by the Jihadist terrorists”;

    Which of course, to again state the long established factual truth, they were not. They were murdered by Zionist ideologues (Jewish and non-Jewish) highly positioned in the Bush Admin (Cheney, Feith, Frum, Wolfowitz, Pearle, et al), in the military establishment and in the CIA/Mossad nexus. An inside job long-planned and executed with military precision, leaving no aspect to chance, from right here within the US.

    “…and murder of innocent civilians by Muslim Jihadist terrorists on September 11, 2001.”

    Keep repeating the indoctrinated mantra, it becomes no truer with repetition, although its mouthpieces do become more cognitively dissonant and deluded with every utterance.

    “…rejection of Jihadists in their midst”

    A better suggestion, let’s start rejecting the bigoted, murderous, self-righteous Luciferian Talmudists in our midst. Far more of those wreaking death and destruction and human suffering in the world than the boogiemen “jihadists” about which your ilk continually blather on.

    Just another ADL,AIPAC, JINSA offshoot organization of agents and sayanim, nothing of worth here.

    • fixthefuture911  August 19, 2010 at 6:59 am

      hat tip for Penumbra 🙂

    • Equalizer  August 19, 2010 at 2:19 pm

      Second that.

    • Danton  August 19, 2010 at 9:20 pm

      You have my vote too.

    • Virg  August 19, 2010 at 4:02 pm

      Ditto the hat tip!

      http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c102:4:./temp/~c102JWGAeZ::

      http://www.samliquidation.com/noahide_news.htm
      102d CONGRESS

      1st Session

      H. J. RES. 104

      JOINT RESOLUTION
      To designate March 26, 1991, as `Education Day, U.S.A.’.

      Whereas Congress recognizes the historical tradition of ethical values and principles which are the basis of civilized society and upon which our great Nation was founded;

      Whereas these ethical values and principles have been the bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization, when they were known as the Seven Noahide Laws;

      Whereas without these ethical values and principles the edifice of civilization stands in serious peril of returning to chaos;

      Whereas society is profoundly concerned with the recent weakening of these principles that has resulted in crises that beleaguer and threaten the fabric of civilized society;

      Whereas the justified preoccupation with these crises must not let the citizens of this Nation lose sight of their responsibility to transmit these historical ethical values from our distinguished past to the generations of the future;

      Whereas the Lubavitch movement has fostered and promoted these ethical values and principles throughout the world;

      Whereas Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson , leader of the Lubavitch movement, is universally respected and revered and his eighty-ninth birthday falls on March 26, 1991;

      Whereas in tribute to this great spiritual leader, `the rebbe,’ this, his ninetieth year will be seen as one of `education and giving,’ the year in which we turn to education and charity to return the world to the moral and ethical values contained in the Seven Noahide Laws; and

      Whereas this will be reflected in an international scroll of honor signed by the President of the United States and other heads of state: Now, therefore, be it

      Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That March 26, 1991, the start of the ninetieth year of Rabbi Menachem Schneerson , leader of the worldwide Lubavitch movement, is designated as `Education Day, U.S.A.’. The President is requested to issue a proclamation calling upon the people of the United States to observe such day with appropriate ceremonies and activities.
      Passed the House of Representatives March 5, 1991.

      Attest:

      Clerk.

      http://www.voy.com/108170/25.html
      >In a footnote to Yebamoth 62a, the Talmud gives the
      >Scriptural source of the seven Noahide laws as Genesis
      >9:7.
      >
      >In Genesis 9:7, God says to Noah:
      >
      >And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth
      >abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.
      >
      >Hmmm… there’s not one mention of seven laws in that
      >verse, despite what the Talmudic sages tell us.
      >
      >According to this group, Christians are guilty of
      >idoltry (for believing in Jesus Christ) and are
      >subject to death (by beheading!) According to their
      >own website, they plan world domination… they want
      >to replace the world’s court systems with Rabbinical
      >courts and they also plan to do away with what they
      >consider to be pagan holidays like Christmas, Easter,
      >Halloween, All Saint’s Day, Good Friday, Ash
      >Wednesday, etc, and anyone observing any of these
      >holidays is subject to death !! People can purchase
      >anti-Christmas fliers from their website. I KNOW this
      >sounds INSANE… but it’s true ! Use the links I
      >provide and go read for yourself.

      “We strongly support and applaud President Obama who issued a statement today saying he has “no regrets” in defending the right of all Americans to freely exercise their faith.”

      He means all faiths EXCEPT Christianity.

    • Lee martin  August 21, 2010 at 1:31 am

      exactly and when we go to these Islam countries we are not allowed at all to carry a Bible let alone use our rights to worship our God-no mosque near the 9/11 site

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