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Shinseki Fights off Veterans’ Enemy Sen. James Webb, Defends Agent Orange Benefits

Agent Orange Birth Defects - Nothing to See Here

- Watching C-SPAN 3′s telecast of the hearing on VA Disability Compensation, Presumptive Disability Decision-Making  by the United States Senate Committee on Veterans’ Affairs is an illustration why no veteran or advocate in Virginia should consider voting for Sen. James Webb (Traitor-VA) -

This morning, while posturing as the earnest student of empirical investigation, Webb prefaced his hostile line of questioning of witness Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki saying Webb is concerned about protecting the “credibility of our [VA] programs.”

I was hoping Shinseki would pull out a can of aerosol composed of dioxin [tetrachlorodibenzodioxin (TCDD)] and offer to spray it around the Committee room and see if anyone of the august senators had a presumptive problem with it.

Shinseki and the other witnesses responded politely and on-point, more than the Committee deserved.

“[This hearing] is also about the accuracy of the scientific process as it pertains to the Agent Orange and service in Vietnam. We have struggled with this now for more than 30 years,” said Webb.

As if it to illustrate his point of concern about the recent Presumptive Agent Orange Disability rule, Webb asked his assistant to produce a chart (who is also a Marine Webb pointed out) showing that 431,699 additional Vietnam veterans would now be eligible for service-connected benefits because of the expanded Agent Orange VA rules.

You mean Vietnam Veteans will get diability benefits? Horrors.

This piece of wasted space named Sen. James Webb is up for reelection in 2012. Virginia should send him home to his fat military and Senate pensions.

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27 Comments for “Shinseki Fights off Veterans’ Enemy Sen. James Webb, Defends Agent Orange Benefits”

  1. I forgot to ask who was going to play Webb in that depicted war glory commentary describing valor beyond belief? It could’ve been a motion picture. Of course no mention of agent orange and defoliation so he could see what he was throwing grenades at. Has this guy started writing his memoirs? What will his tombstone have engraved on it? Is Washington going to approve a monument to Webb only? All that action, Wow, he should have one! That whole decorated hero story is just too much to take without laughing my ass off. Did his valet have to help him carry all those medals home? Please Senator, let us know! Perhaps you’re too humble to talk about your heroics or just can’t keep the story straight.

  2. hopefully Webb is history not only is he an idiot but after all the scientific studies he wants to question the folks they hired and their results because they don’t resolve his own crap. I hope he never gets elected again for anything but a garbage man.

  3. Another Agent Orange widow here among many. Webb must have been the negative commentor on the Final Reg.:

    E. Negative Comment
    Only one comment indicated clear
    opposition to the final rule. The
    commenter asserted that ‘‘[t]he proposed
    rule for presumptive conditions to
    Agent Orange exposure * * * is
    ridiculous.

    When I heard Webb was a “Commander” from his own introduction on C-Span, I figured he must have commanded from a cushy spot in Paris France or the like. Wasn’t that how some did their commanding? I cannot ask my husband. Now, he had an honorable stay in Nam and he went on to help other Vets right up until the moment he passed away. He lived and breathed “No man left behind” I also believe, Hell hath no fury like a woman. I visit my husbands grave in the Veteran area. I see many Vets who died very young. There is a reason for that. Take note next time you visit a Vietnam Veteran grave and see who lies beside him.

  4. I sent Sen. Webb an email telling him what I thought of his stand on AO benefits. He replied that the government had a responsibility to be able to pay for these benefits. According to the C-span discussion, the source of funds is a contest between the tax cut for the wealthy and the benefits. The benefits appeared to be the most favored, so Sen. Webb shifted from the source of payments to “We need to study this further”. How much more time do they need? Or is it because the vets and their families are not dead yet? My husband had diabetes, breathing problems,and died from a heart attack. His first heart attack was in 1981 when they were still denying that AO was harmful. What happened to NO MAN LEFT BEHIND? The injuries did not result from bullets or shrapnal, but they were a direct result of serving our country. NO MAN LEFT BEHIND SEN. WEBB!

  5. Regardless of webb’s service in Nam he is a traitor to all the men and women that served there. He is a very arrogant man that only considers himself. Anyone watching the hearing would know this. He asked the same questions over and over hoping to get the answer he wanted but it never happened. For some reason webb seems to hate Vets we should return the favor on his next election. Also if he would like a face to face would be ok. From one old Marine Semper Fi weeb!!

  6. Kennedy was going to return all combat brigades from Vietnam in December of 1963 and ALL American forces by 1965. They shot him in November of 1963…and 9 months later, the infamous false flag called the Gulf of Tonkin incident was foisted on us by McNamara and Johnson to justify our dramatic military buildup.

    War is a wonderful way for the bankers and the corporations that grew up around them, to MAKE LOTS OF MONEY!!! Why isn’t Webb, et al, calling for them to return their illgotten gains? WITH INTEREST! Ever hear of General Smedley Butler, USMC? I’m sure Mr Webb has!

    I have diabetes and I too have NO GENETIC PRE-DISPOSITION TO THAT DISEASE…it does not run in my family! 4 brothers and 2 sisters…and none of them has developed diabetes…ONLY ME!!! And I was the only one to have served on the ground in Vietnam!

    Someone stated that 40% of the Vietnam vets who are under the VA’s care have diabetes…doesn’t that say something? I mean, how many of us have to get it before we start to say “wow…maybe there’s something to this after all!!!”

    There were no medical tests before we went over there and there were no medical tests performed when we came back! We should have had, at the very least, blood samples taken before and after our tours of duty…that would have been a prudent thing for the military to do. I believe that this was not done to protect Monsanto, DuPont, et al, of any liability associated with their cash cow…Agent Orange! Instead we have to be degraded even further, whilst the companies and bankers who started and sustained the war and made it drag on for years and years to fatten their wallets are left completely out of the debate to return their ill-gotten gains!! Gang up on the vets…but don’t say a word about the bankers and corporations who start these wars! Sickening!!!

    Let me say this…had I known the way I would be treated by this nation, my Vietnam war would have been fought in front of my house the day the recruiters showed up to haul me into the Army.

  7. webb is a damm traitor, but the entire democratic party is against the vets. Don’t
    kid yourself. The Des Moines Register had an article in it today recommending total
    elimination of the VA system. As I have said before, my brother-in-law spent 3
    tours in Vietnam and 4 years ago contracted Parkinson’t disease. I hope Rosalynn
    is right. My sister also believes WEBB will never be reelected in Virginia. I hope
    not. It is time the vets in this country gang-up on these damm politicians like
    WEBB. As a navy retiree, I have had 30 years thus far to see what they have done
    and are doing to our vets.

    • Where do you get your facts about which party is against Vets?

      Senator McCain was against the 9/11 GI Bill (Webb supported it strongly). McCain wants Vets to go to private doctors vs. the VA Medical Centers. His approach has been mirrored by many in the Republican Party.

      During President Bush’s administration, the VA (in 12/2003) restricted access to VA health care, because there were not enough resources to assist the neediest Vets. The VA is still digging themselves out form the hole they were in. This was despite two wars being fought, not enough funding for the VA during 2002-2008.

      John Hall (Democrat) was instrumental in making the recent changes in PTSD regulations happen.

      President Obama and the Democrat-lead Congress has voted more resources for the VA and made it possible to work on a two-year budget cycle now.

      By the way, I am a life-long registered Republican and long-time Veterans Counselor.

  8. Lets bring in all veterans In the Vietnam including the guys that are Blue water navy that would mean the first 15 miles off vietnam land

  9. well if this is such a big thing lets make it bigger all Persons in vietnam theater will qualify for AO presumtions meaning all international waters that means Blue water Navy they need to do a study of the BWn and see just how many Vets fit the Ao presumtives I did two tours BWN Had my first Heart attack at 38 Now thats young but there are those that are younger

    Dennis Gosnell Navy 71-75

  10. I agree – watch the video of September 23rd Senate meeting on Agent Orange and Presumptive diseases. When Senator Webb talks he only talks about himself and never brings up the good job that our veterans did do… I really do hope he is voted out for our veterans do not need someone like him standing up for them.

  11. Is it all over agent orange heart disease?

    • Yes – Senator Webb thinks that there will be too many veterans that will get benefits that don’t deserve them with the new presumtive diseases. He doesn’t believe that there were actually that many people affected by this chemical.

  12. He was a better Marine than he is a politician.

  13. Here’s waht I know about Senator Jim Webb (we were together for two years in the U.S. Naval Academy at Annapolis; he was Class of 1968, I was Class of 1970 and became very good friends while there):
    After graduating from Annapolis, Webb was commissioned as a second lieutenant in the U.S. Marine Corps. As a first lieutenant during the Vietnam War he served as a platoon commander with Delta Company, 1st Battalion 5th Marines. He earned a Navy Cross, the second highest decoration in the Navy and Marine Corps for heroism in Vietnam. Webb also earned the Silver Star, two Bronze Stars, and two Purple Hearts.

    Webb received the Navy Cross for actions on July 10, 1969. The citation read:

    “ The Navy Cross is presented to James H. Webb, Jr., First Lieutenant, U.S. Marine Corps, for extraordinary heroism while serving as a Platoon Commander with Company D, First Battalion, Fifth Marines, First Marine Division (Reinforced), Fleet Marine Force, in connection with combat operations against the enemy in the Republic of Vietnam. On July 10, 1969, while participating in a company-sized search and destroy operation deep in hostile territory, First Lieutenant Webb’s platoon discovered a well-camouflaged bunker complex that appeared to be unoccupied. Deploying his men into defensive positions, First Lieutenant Webb was advancing to the first bunker when three enemy soldiers armed with hand grenades jumped out. Reacting instantly, he grabbed the closest man and, brandishing his .45 caliber pistol at the others, apprehended all three of the soldiers. Accompanied by one of his men, he then approached the second bunker and called for the enemy to surrender. When the hostile soldiers failed to answer him and threw a grenade that detonated dangerously close to him, First Lieutenant Webb detonated a claymore mine in the bunker aperture, accounting for two enemy casualties and disclosing the entrance to a tunnel. Despite the smoke and debris from the explosion and the possibility of enemy soldiers hiding in the tunnel, he then conducted a thorough search that yielded several items of equipment and numerous documents containing valuable intelligence data. Continuing the assault, he approached a third bunker and was preparing to fire into it when the enemy threw another grenade. Observing the grenade land dangerously close to his companion, First Lieutenant Webb simultaneously fired his weapon at the enemy, pushed the Marine away from the grenade, and shielded him from the explosion with his own body. Although sustaining painful fragmentation wounds from the explosion, he managed to throw a grenade into the aperture and completely destroy the remaining bunker. By his courage, aggressive leadership, and selfless devotion to duty, First Lieutenant Webb upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and of the United States Naval Service.[10]

    • My husband was in the Navy. They watched the plains fly over to drop this terrible chemical. His ship was inland supplying ships with whatever they needed. They drank and showered with this contaminated water – they breathed the air that carried the chemical. He was proud to have served in the Vietnam War – even when they were treated so terribly by their own country when they returned, he was proud to have served. He is the first one to stand behind any person that has served their country no matter what… He was just as proud as Senator Webb was to serve, the only difference is he hasn’t forgotten his own and Senator Webb has. These men are ill with sicknesses that DO NOT run in their families and they are either dead or are dying. Their lives have been shortened and it WASN’T due to old age diseases for they died young and the ones that are alive, their lives have been cut short.

      My husband has had a massive heart attack with stent at 48, triple bypass with valve repair at 57. He has ischemic heart disease, congestive heart failure, edema, coronary artery disease, depression, diabetes, atrial fibrillation, neuropathy and NONE of this RUNS IN HIS FAMILY. My husband started smoking while he was in the Navy, less than 1 pack of a WK, and quit shortly after he got out. My husband was not a skinny man, but he was a healthy man. His life has now been shortened. My husband was proud to have served in the Vietnam war even though he returned to people in his own country that talked down to the veterans when they returned. I want to grow old with my husband and I pray that I can…

      Senator Webb served his country proud and was also decorated. This problem is, he forgot what it was like being on Capitol Hill. He is thinking about the dollar not the veteran that served this wonderful country of ours. I listened to him talk and he never said anything about the Vietnam Veterans deserving this only that he served and where and that not every veteran was affected and that there are veterans that will be getting benefits that don’t deserve them. You can tell by the way he talks he thinks very highly of himself and also feels he is never wrong. He feels that everything should be black and white and the Vietnam War was far from black and white. I don’t believe Senator Webb listens to anyone or anything that doesn’t coincide with what his thoughts are. Has he had anyone in his family suffering from any of these diseases at a young age that was exposed to Agent Orange? The studies that were done for diabetes and ischemic heart were very thorough. It proved that the Veterans had a higher chance of getting these diseases because of their exposure. If a person is overweight or out of shape it still doesn’t mean that they will get diabetes or heart issues, but if they were exposed to Agent Orange the chances of getting this increased their chances and that is not acceptable.

      In the Senate meeting on Thursday, there was a comment “If we live long enough we will all die of prostate cancer and heart disease”. This is NOT a true statement and it should not have been said. Old is the age of 85 – 100, my uncle received the Medal of Honor from France about 5 years ago or so, they came to his nursing home from France to deliver it. He died at 104 of old age…

      Presumptive diseases were initiated because there was not a way to prove if Agent Orange caused any of these diseases or if the person just got sick. Their chances increased due to Agent Orange and if they were never in the war they may never have become ill. It is time to stop all of this and let Secretary Shinseki do the job he was put in office to do. By the way – HE WAS ALSO A DECORATED VETERAN and he still thinks about the veteran.

      Thank you

      must have forgotten about his comrands that he faught for did a wonderful job for his country in Vietnam – he faught for his country with pride. He now forgot who he should be fighting for now

      • First of all welcome home to all vets.i was in quang tri 69/70 without my bush storys, iwould like to say ,what is this growth on my neck/arms legs. was not there last year. agent o i was in ,went to va got a acid wash,but they were not goin to call it the big O, mydaughter suffers from health problems. there again the va claim no connection again, you know they spray that stuff on me and other marines. only to dishonor my service and not give me treatment for my family, i thought i was fighting for freedom, i was 18 years old thank you va for taking care of me . love to talk to service rep who realy cared.7207850419, i sure this will be file under who cares,………….usmc

    • What Hollywood script writer wrote that story? A regular John Wayne AKA–Webb. Please spare us the agony of hearing any more garbage like that; Rambo! The whole story sounds like it was overedited and the final novel was tossed away by some publishing house.

  14. Like many of you, I was surprised at the tack that Senator Webb has taken the last five months on this subject; he is not alone however, in trying to roll-back the progress made in Agent Orange disability determinations.

    Trying to blame the reason for his stance on his assumed record as a REMF in Vietnam is not true. He was one of small minority of Naval Academy graduates from his class who volunteered for the Marines, knowing by then, as all of did at USNA, that he would likely serve in Vietnam. He graduated first in his class at Quantico and had a truly distinguished combat record in Vietnam.

    While, as an active veterans counselor myself, I strongly disagree with Senator Webb’s opinions on the recent AO decisions, it is perverse to suggest that Senator Webb did not well serve his country when he was in Vietnam.

    I suggest instead, that we assess the motivations behind him and others now proposing new procedures that will further delay compensation to afflicted Vietnam veterans who have suffered so much for so many years.

  15. It was a pleasure to see him ask a question and NOT get the answer he was hoping for. Senator Webb is just the kind of person we don’t need in the cesspool we call our nations capital. He is one arrogant man. He represents the carrier politician, just what we don’t need or want. Things change sometimes for the better and not. In this case everything in ones power should be put into voting him out. 2012 is not that far a way. I’m sure many of us will remember him when the time comes. He has 775,000 vet’s that live in his state. I know I will do my best to remind them all.

  16. I only wish I could ask Mr. Webb 1 question.

    Why are there so many homeless sick Veterans wandering the streets of America, I personally have known some that have been that way for ten years and have filed claims and been denied on every single one. I guess they just could not ask the 400 Lawyers that work for the VA individually. ” Say Buddy, can you spare some change ?
    I wonder if Mr. Webb enjoyed the Rib Eye Steaks and COLD beer he had for Rations in Nam….I just wonder….No Stars and no Sripes here. USMC 0331 Been There, Done That.

  17. I was not surprised by webb. He has one agenda and that is himself. If a lifelong vet he would have had the brownest nose ever seen. A rearend vet he is. If the people of his state agree with such a contemptable man then they deserve him and he will screw them also. He may have been in Vietnam but he would not have lasted in the field. Its amazing how officers back in headquarters end up with their medals. The dude is a bad, bad joke who causes others much pain. Anytime you want to look me up billie I would be glad to meet your sorry ass.
    Greg Tenneson

    • Rozalynn Federline

      If we family members of Virginian Vietnam Veterans have our way, Sen. Webb will only be serving out his current term and no more. He is no friend to his fellow Vietnam Vets. These spenders of our hard earn dollars have no problem sending it off to countries that despise us, but do not want to assist the veteran that faced down the enemy while being sprayed with Agent Orange. I do not know how they sleep at night.

  18. What was Webb’s service record? Was he another Kerry? Or worse, and even further back REMF to quote one of Duff’s accurate descriptions of many rear-echelon losers?
    Anybody know? The man needs to spend some time in the Hanoi Hilton — maybe 10 years or so?

    I met a severely disabled Vet the other day at my local VA. He said he spent most of his tour in clothes soaked to the sking with various herbicide agents. The guy, younger than me—in his 50s—is in deep shit physcially. Diabetes, heart issues, one shoulder and one knee replacement with another shoulder and knee to go. His disability? 10% for hearing loss. The medical people all know it’s criminal but the VBA won’t budge.

    T.G.

  19. Who will head up a movement to prevent Webb from ever holding public office again?

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