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GORDON DUFF: WIKILEAKS, A TOUCH OF ASSANGE AND THE STENCH OF AIPAC
“Recent admissions that the Israeli lobby, AIPAC, routinely receives masses of classified information makes them suspect #1 for being the source of Wikileaks”
EDITORIAL NOTE: THIS IS OUR “PRE-RELEASE” PREDICTION. HOW DID WE DO?
By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor
Wikileaks is like a TV show that never gets off the ground. We started with a “shoot ‘em up” in Iraq, the helicopter slaughter soon forgotten and move on to, well, what? We got a deluge of material from Afghanistan, carefully gleaned to point fingers at Pakistan. When it came down to backing any of it up, it went nowhere.
Considering the massive corruption and drug scandals, even the revelations that President Karzai has been in negotiations with pranksters pretending to be the Talbian, all the really juicy stuff from Afghanistan must have been in another drawer. Then we got Iraq. Ah, Iraq. There, we could check. We know the people who wrote the leaked material. They told us Wikileaks edited it, altered it, redacted it more than the Pentagon.
The “Iraq War Log” was, well…phony. There is one thing that has been consistent about Wikileaks and our prediction is that this next batch, reputed to be millions of highly sensitive documents, will prove our point. Wikileaks is Israel.
Wikileaks is an intelligence operation to weaken and undermine the American government, orchestrated from Tel Aviv, using dozens of operatives, dual citizens, some at the highest authority levels, spies for Israel. Through leaking carefully selected intelligence along with proven falsified documents, all fed to a controlled press, fully complicit, Wikileaks is, in fact, an act of war against the United States.
HOW CAN ISRAEL SIFT THROUGH DEFENSE DOCUMENTS?
This last week, in a lawsuit over an AIPAC, (Israel’s lobby) employee reputedly fired for being caught spying against the US, news stories across the United States reported that, as part of that $20 million civil case, evidence will be presented that masses of classified material come to AIPAC and Israel continually. Is AIPAC Wikileaks? The only evidence of any massive leak discovered in the Pentagon is AIPAC. Last week’s Washington Post story was buried quicker than a carp in a playground: Jeff Stein, at the Washinton Post, reports the following:
Rosen says his actions were common practice at the organization. He said his next move is to show that AIPAC, Washington’s major pro-Israeli lobbying group by far, regularly traffics in sensitive U.S. government information, especially material related to the Middle East. “I will introduce documentary evidence that AIPAC approved of the receipt of classified information,” he said by e-mail. “Most instances of actual receipt are hard to document, because orally received information rarely comes with classified stamps on it nor record’s alerts that the information is classified.”
But Rosen said he would produce “statements of AIPAC employees to the FBI, internal documents, deposition statements, public statements and other evidence showing that [the] receipt of classified information by employees other than [himself] … was condoned … for months prior to being condemned in March 2005 after threats from the prosecutors.”
How does this apply to Wikileaks? The answer, if we bother to put the pieces together, is staring us in the face. The proof, the ultimate proof, however, will be in the current batch of documents that have already been prepared, weeks of work by dozens with access to classified documents, and only one group has that access and can operate with impunity, as was shown in a recent story in Veterans Today:
AIPAC is a sham. The group has, over the years, destroyed anyone who has tried to have it named what it really is, a dangerous foreign lobby and nest of spies. AIPAC is the most feared organization in Washington and most powerful, above any law. A former employee of AIPAC, Steve Rosen, who AIPAC claims was a spy, more appropriately a “caught” spy, now claims his former employer does nothing but spy. Rosen stands to get $20 million in his defamation lawsuit against AIPAC.
He isn’t without motive but we have also learned that Rosen has considerable documentation of AIPAC receiving and disseminating classified information, received from, well, we have to call them traitors, inside the US government. We know that a vast spy ring operates in Washington and that Israel is the center of it.
We also know that Israel, Turkey, India, Pakistan, China and Russia trade American secrets back and forth like baseball cards. We know that AIPAC is deeply involved in this spying. We know that AIPAC claims to hold signed letters of unconditional support from 80% of the members of congress, all of whom received campaign contributions arranged by AIPAC, with many elections financed almost entirely by AIPAC, a group involved, according to the Washington Post and Steve Rosen, in spying on the United States with seeming complicity by the FBI itself.
WHAT DO WE LOOK FOR, HOW CAN WE PROVE ISRAEL OR AIPAC MAY BE BEHIND WIKILEAKS?
Were we to ask author Jeff Gates, he would point to the “storytelling” aspect of Wikileaks, Assange and his “on again-off again” rape charges or that someone that manages to make it to continual television interviews can’t be found by police or security services. We call this “storytelling” and Jeff Gates tells us that Israel, the power behind Hollywood and the American press, is the “storyteller” of all time.
There are better ways to “prove,” a word as subjective as any of the storytelling around the Wikileaks myth itself. The proof, always depending on who accepts the proof, and as is almost always the case, dependent on whether the press itself chooses to report it, which if Israel is involved, is more than a bit predictable itself. Lack of reporting potential Israeli complicity in Wikileaks, knowing AIPAC and Israel have the longest history of accessing classified information and, by far, the strongest agenda for leaking information, could be seen as conclusive proof itself.
WHAT WILL BE IN WIKILEAKS?
If dual citizens who make up much of the Pentagon’s leadership are working with Israel or AIPAC to formulate Wikileaks, as seems to be the case, then the upcoming leak will serve a pro-Israeli agenda, even if it damages the United States, as other Wikileaks have. These are Israeli agenda items:
- Discrediting Obama foreign policy in order to weaken the president’s influence with congress to push for a halt on new settlements in Palestine and the forced removal of Islamic property owners.
- Accusations involving Turkey, now feuding with Israel over the killing of Turkish citizens on the Mavi Marmara, now recognized as a purely humanitarian mission. These accusations against Turkey may include weapons being supplied to terrorists in Iraq, a fanciful abuse of reality. What will not be reported, if this story is “leaked” either through Wikileaks or the other Israeli sources, “Debka”..”Stratfor”..”FamilySecurityMatters.org”..or the infamous “IsraelNationalNews.com” is Israel’s 40 years of complicity in the very acts they now accuse Turkey of.
- More importantly, is the issue of blaming Turkey for the actions of the terrorist group, PKK, long funded by Israel and now claimed to be allied to Al Qaeda, is vital to Israel’s strategy against Turkey.
- Expect Pakistan to be hit, as usual. An Islamic nuclear power with a top rate million man army that outclasses Israel hands down, Pakistan, primary competitor for US aid dollars, a country that actually has agreements with the United States and real troops fighting alongside Americans, will get their usual Wikileaks bashing.
WIKILEAKS IS CHICKENFEED MEANT TO COVER ISRAEL’S TAIL
Is it a coincidence that documents regarding Israel, their spying, influence peddling, suspicions of complicity in terrorism, Yemen, Iraq, Pakistan, Somalia, across Europe and even the Detroit bombing, those reports are there, they are classified but you will never see one on Wikileaks. In fact, they are the only classified information that never gets out to the news. Is that because, as we have learned, the borders of Israel extend well into Washington DC, well into the Pentagon? What won’t we see in Wikileaks:
- Nothing in Wikileaks will accuse anyone, even Pakistan or Afghanistan, or complicity in narcotics trafficking nor mention the huge new narcotics industry operating in Iraq. Ask yourself why.
- One of the biggest areas of complaint in the Pentagon, more classified White Papers have been written on this than anything else: “How Israel is Endangering the United States“
- In fact, the biggest “classified” debate in America is what supporting Israel, a nation with incredible wealth and utterly obnoxious leaders costs the United States. Rumors of such issues aren’t rumors at all. When General Petraeus presented his now famous power-point presentation to Admiral Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, outlining how Israel is undermining American foreign policy, he wasn’t operating without tens of thousands of pages of intelligence behind him. Not one page, not one word of these studies will be in Wikileaks.
- When Vice President Joe Biden said the following to Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu:
“This is starting to get dangerous for us, what you’re doing here undermines the security of our troops who are fighting in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. That endangers us and it endangers regional peace.”
Are we to believe these statements were taken out of thin air? In fact, Petraeus, Mullen and Biden are only the tip of the iceberg. Admiral Mullen, America’s top military leader under the Commander in Chief, has repeatedly cited Israel and America’s relationship, as, not only a liability but something far worse, so much worse that:
As public statements by Admiral Mullen, Vice President Biden, General Petraeus and others, citing America’s relationship with Israel as a military disaster, are obviously “watered down” for public consumption, can you imagine what classified reports are saying?
WHY PRESIDENT OBAMA IS AFRAID AND WHY AMERICA IS PARALYZED
The greatest fear any president has, even more than impeachment, is the fate of Jimmie Carter. Carter, now pegged as an “Antisemite” and “enemy of the state” in Israel, is still being sold to Americans as something quite the opposite of reality. Friends in Israel, if they want to start a row, something not too difficult in Israel as you might guess, will walk around carrying one of Jimmie Carter’s books under their arm. A Yasser Arafat t-shirt and suicide vest are considered only marginally worse. Carter left office under mysterious circumstances. Several disasters, high interest rates, the hostage crisis and the failed rescue attempt showed signs of conspiratorial meddling. His real crimes were:
- Pushing Israel for a durable and lasting Middle East peace
- Monetary policies that kept America out of debt…
- Support of Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid
- Unwillingness to engage in military adventure
When the defense and oil lobby joined with Israel and Wall Street to crush the Carter presidency, the writing was on the wall. Interest rates, the “October surprise” and the military sabotaging the hostage rescue attempt, these things destroyed President Carter who might, otherwise, have suffered an “accident” like the Kennedy brothers. Today, millions of Americans who should be praying to return to Carters foreign policy and fiscal conservatism, are taught to look on him as a failure. However, more and more, historians are seeing Carter as the last American president. Every leader since has been dictated to by Israel.
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Hamid Gul is one of our editors. However, I thought most of our folks are RAW.
I keep forgetting who we are working for.
I am sure “they” will remind me.
g
good one
G, I thought they were mostly AIPAC/Mossad? Controlled opposition and all that.
It is interesting that in all the leeks, nothing about Israel. If you know anything about intelligence gathering or who has their claws in the Us Government Foreign Policy, Israel’s name should be all over it.
The fact that they are not implemented, in itself is omission of where the source is from.
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The info here about Jimmy Carter, plus Gordon’s comments about him after the last article, have changed my whole perception of him and his presidency. Whereas the term “malaise” used to come to mind, I now see him as something of a hero…standing up to Israel like that.
Contrast Carter’s courage with the pathetic images of Obama and Joe Bite-me in their yarmulkes pledging allegiance to the criminal state of IsRaHell. Disgusting.
Search for Walter Cronkite and Jimmy Carter. Cronkite called Carter the smartest US president he ever covered. I saw a video interview, which I can’t relocate, where Cronkite when asked who was the smartest said, “Carter, by a mile.” He said Carter’s grasp of policy considerations and the implications of history were enormous, and that after he started covering him, he had to do his homework before asking Carter any questions because Carter’s ‘razor-sharp mind’ could decimate Cronkite’s points.
Cronkite gave an interview in 2003 about this, but the video I saw was from the late 90s.
I think, I think, but don’t hold me to it, that Cronkite was saying this in response to the interviewer’s puzzlement about the great friendship between Carter and Ford that happened after their presidencies were over. Ford had given an interview (60 Minutes? CNN? ???) a few years earlier in which he called Carter one of the smartest guys he ever met in his life, political or otherwise.
of course my main problem with Carter is that I have seen him talk s—t about George w Bush a few times
other than that he seems OK
“When Hitler attacked the Jews
I was not a Jew, therefore I was not concerned.
And when Hitler attacked the Catholics,
I was not a Catholic, and therefore, I was not concerned.
And when Hitler attacked the unions and the industrialists,
I was not a member of the unions and I was not concerned.
Then Hitler attacked me and the Protestant church –
and there was nobody left to be concerned.”
Pastor Martin Niemöller
Congressional Record, October 14, 1968, page 31636
Ah, but how correct you may be. These are same folks who created the Rabbi who then went on to discover DeadSea Scrolls well before the internet of course.
Now they use the .com world of info spreading via Wikileak . shalom. And if government heads are really being distraction by all this “truth telling”, then we really are living in The United States of Israel.
Why all not just call a spade a spade, or am I so lame I forgot this was all a game? Maybe both, huh?
The biggest mistake we made in this country was not doing what Norway did. Their high school students cannot graduate unless they can prove proficiency in four languages. They must be able to speak, read, and write in those languages. That’s why their students have been #1 among 110 countries for years.
Our kids should be taught a romance language like Spanish (French or Italian), a pictographic language like Chinese (Korean or Japanese) and a fourth elective. This facility would allow kids to read news in other languages, and determine a worldview that the US controlled press would not be able to overcome….even though Haim Saban bought the Spanish network Univision in 2007 after this article appeared in The Forward in June, 2006:
http://www.forward.com/articles/785/
And if you do a little sleuthing, you’ll discover who some of the major funders are for groups like the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS). CIS was Lou Dobbs’ main source of immigration info and vitriol. Stephen Steinlight, who wrote the article at http://www.forward.com/articles/785/ — read it, it’s dumbfounding — is a senior policy analyst for CIS. And a whole lot of uneducated screeching older white folk with teabags sewn on their hats (and younger uneducated cretins, as well) are perfectly happy swallowing the pap that our neighbors are as bad as Palestinians; hence, the Wall and the same level of hatred.
If you think the anti-immigration thing was a spontaneous uprising, I’ve got a bridge to sell you. And don’t bother giving me the ‘they take our jobs’ argument. Texas would be flay-out broke without them. Just ask the only State Comptroller in the country who did an audit to get at the truth, Carole Keeton Strayhorn (Pres Spokesman Scott McClellan’s mama) who produced this report: Special Report: Undocumented Immigrants in Texas • December 2006
Perhaps you might explain why so many foreign students are coming to this country to continue studying beyond high school. I know we have problems with our schools systems, especially on the high school level, but our higher education still ranks quite high. Learning four languages has nothing to do with dealing with math, science, music, history or the like. I teach military history on a part time basis and usually have at least two or three foreign student in my classes.
That is the most ludicrous statement ever. Knowing different languages allows one to read up on history from more than one perspective. All history written in English is not the truth, so being able to read other publications, being able to be told stories about history directly from people from other cultures will give you a much more rounded idea of what happened in history, or any other subject for that matter.
BS american exceptionalism at its worst….
http://www.forward.com/articles/133419/
hey, thanks for the vote of confidence, but as a norwegian citizen i gotta correct you a tiny bit..we are taught norwegian as well as english, and by junior high a third language. most ppl dont use their third language that much, but “everybody” knows english and norwegian. however, norwegian students are not doing all that good in all reports comparing students all around the world. but, finland, they could teach us all a thing or two. their students are well disciplined and well-taught. the norwegian school is too lax, and not that well organised. look to the other scandinavian countries!
The whole controlled media operation
now frozen in frantic indecision !!!
whole controlled media operation
………………FBI supplies dud bomb for plot at Oregon tree lighting ceremony…………
So whose side are Petreus,Mullen and Biden on? If they think they are snookered ,then are they just playing along or have they capitulated totally to Israel and just do their bidding.There does not seem to be any will or plan to stand up to them.
A war with Iran will be an economic disaster and one with North Korea would soon involve China. Russia and China have just dropped the US $ as a trading currency.This will see a rapid decline in the value of the $.With more unrest at home,Govts have always gone to war to unite a pop,since the US Govt is now more fearful of its own people that any terrorist or perceived enemy.
Israel could already have the two missing nukes planted in a US cities.They also have the reputation of being a mad dog with at least 200 nukes and the disposition to use them.
It is an almighty mess involving treachery,massive theft and a mad dog Kleptocracy who see war for more profits but mostly as their escape from the people whom they have shafted.The stakes could not be higher.
Obama said he favored net-neutrality. Now they want to use the excuse of intellectual property or copyright infringement, or cyber security to take over the internet. So you know the end result will be worse than cable TV. They really underestimated the internet and now look like Keystone cops playing catch-up. I say: Hack it, rip it, share it, burn it. “Intellectual property”, an oxymoron, is a kind of Orwellian New-speak (or something that rhymes with New-speak)
They actually don’t care about ‘Intellectual property”, that’s just a ruse to confiscate your laptop and put you in jail for Orwellian ‘thought crime’
The worst aspect of this latest move by Big Brother, isn’t even the seizure of BitTorrent (a small-fry search engine, nothing more), it’s the manner in which it was conducted, without due process (no complain, no court order, no warning of any kind).
This is just another in a growing roster of examples of Washington having no regard whatsoever for the “rule of law” (except as a bludgeon against anyone and anything they don’t like or who/which dares to stand up to their tyranny) and presuming themselves above any law.
“One nation under criminality, with tyranny and injustice for all (the little folk)”.
First they came for the Bit Torrent search engines…and I said nothing
Next they came for the alternative health info sites…and I said nothing
Then they came for Jeff Rense…and I said nothing.
Now they’ve shut down Veterans Today…and boy am I pissed!
(It’s only a matter of time. America will perish from a thousand cuts…not one fell swoop. It’s the frog in the boiling pot simile again, and the water seems to be getting hotter as we speak.)
Got your blinders firmly nailed back on I see Larry. What a shame.
Lawrence Dickerson is Larry
Ross,
Lawrence=Larry as Walter=Wally or Richard=Richy…I figured it out in 15 seconds and I have head trauma.
Lawrence A Dickerson refers to himself on his site as Larry.I’m assuming it is the same person.
No Lawrence A Dickerson refers to himself as that. Some post back to him as Larry. If someone is posting as Larry. I would not think it’s from Lawrence A Dickerson. -Yet I call him sometimes Larry.
Larry:
You are grateful that we have a Homeland Security Agency? Are you also grateful for minimum-wage TSA goons feeling you up or inspecting your genitalia while exposing you to carcinogenic levels of radiation in one of Michael Jherkoff’s naked-body scanners? Are you grateful that your daughter or granddaughter is likely to be subjected to this treatment?
Don’t you get it? The ‘war on terror’ is a hoax. Gordon has previously exposed these phony ‘terrorist’ plots to sneak crotch bombs onto planes, the patsy busted for the Times Square fizzle bomb, etc etc. for what they are: Israeli scams to justify more intrusive security measures and to set the stage for America’s next war for Israel.
Moreover, the current wars in the Middle East, the deaths of millions, and the evisceration of what was left of our liberties via the “Patriot Act” are all BASED ON A LIE!!!! The attack on 9/11 was planned and carried out by the Zionist-Jew network in cahoots with rogue elements of our own government. Period.
I guess you will fit right in with the Orwellian dystopia that is coming soon, courtesy of the New World Order…unless of course they categorize you as a ‘useless eater’.
There. How’s that for anti-government rhetoric?
The Orwellian dystopia won’t be coming soon if you treat the people around you who believe the phony foundation for it with gently scorn (emphasis on gentle because no one likes to be made a fool of and will cling harder to their errant views) or figure out some good-natured way to laugh at it.
Laughter has an interesting way of undercutting all this nonsense. I’m speaking of how you deal with those you love, or who love you. [Things changed drastically for me when I started laughing as I said "Omigod, you don't still believe that crap, do you?" when I get the '19 hijackers took down two towers and caused a third' BS. Instead of me convincing them, now they try to convince me...what an opening!] Just an idea.
I thought I was replying underneath
wolf says:
November 27, 2010 at 8:16 pm
but it didn’t seem to work.
Larry,Obama is part of the problem.There is absolute scientific proof that elements within the US Govt had to be complicit in the 911 attacks.One way or another,this present regieme must go.Ron Paul is right about the Federal Res.It is totally illegal and against the Constitution.You have agreed with me that the system is totally dyfunctional and corrupt,so what is your solution? Keeping criminals in charge of the USA and driving the ordinary US citizens into grinding poverty.
The Corporate Elites control the West via the scam of fractional reserve banking and this is not democracy in any sense of the word.One one hand you agree with me but there is a disconnect in your logic in not recogising that is cannot be fixed by a bunch of corrupt self serving nation wreckers.It is treason of the highest order when a Govt sells out its own people for personal gain.
Ross, please don’t acquire amnesia, and forget what happened from 2001-2008. –A bunch of self serving nation wreckers, treasonist of the highest order(maybe that order was 33rd degree Masons and the rest) But Ross please keep it in pespective. Is Obama doing all the correct actions? I think not always, but he has put forth, with Congressional approval several key elements of positive change. Is it far enough?! I don’t think, yet it is a step in the correct direction. Credit card reform. Reform of Health Insurance SCAM. Equal pay act, Way more, you do the research.-You are correct in saying that when a govt sells itself out for personal gain it is treasonist, I do not in any way Believe this present government is selling us out for their personal gain, in fact they have lost positions and have not gained. –Thanks to individuals that think like you, and I would suggest- maybe not accurate, but will suggest, you, Ross listen occasionally to FOX news. (again, sorry for the Caps, I wasn’t shouting!)Then Ross look into the invention of the Fed Res. -Probably as it is, many of those that have been lambasted on these web pages are part and parcel of the Fed. When Napoleon was defeated at Waterloo, it’s been said and shown that a Rothchild or their emmissary raced back to England and screamed as loud as they could,(Through the press) that Napoleon had won. The British Stock market of this time took a plunge, while many sold all their investments. The Rothchild groups came back and bought them all back up for “pennies on the Dollar” Pound
Have a nice day or night Ross.
it’s been said and shown that a Rothchild or their emmissary raced back to England and screamed as loud as they could,(Through the press) that Napoleon had won. The British Stock market of this time took a plunge, while many sold all their investments. The Rothchild groups came back and bought them all back up for “pennies on the Dollar” Pound
yeah I have heard that story in a number of places, it seems they were -on the ropes- for a while during the time of Napoleon, but they hung in there and regrouped
Thanks Gordon for standing your ground and telling the less informed how things are in real life.
I guess that guys, who have been in the front line, risking their lives, like you and Jeff in Vietnam, surviving the ordeal with their neurones intact and an impaired amount of decency, sens of honor, love for justice and mankind, are duty bound to speak up and tell the truth about the dire straits America is pushed in by a bunch of maniac-suicidal criminal, ready to be picked up before the ship flounder and set up to plunder the homes and steal the savings of the crew families.
Wikileak, as you very early found out is part of the war Israel and the Zion Talmudic Mafia that controls it is waging against the USA-EU in order to weaken and achieve total control over their respective governments.
The Talmudic laws are being applied to the Goyim by INSANE Zionists and traitors from within are used to help bring down their own country and bring about the Zio One World Gov. controlled from/by London-Tel Aviv.
The blind leading the ignorant…
The ignorant leading the blind… (?)
You are damn right Lem G. The blind(s) certainly are the ASSETS-SAYANIM-TRAITORS, who from their perch in Congress-Senate do not see or will not admit that they have been bought body & soul by the Zion Talmudic Mafia Dons (Bribes-Campaign donations) and sure (for the moment) are allowed to LEAD the majority of cowed-scared and IGNORANT Americans… Lem G., take off the blinders and have a peek at the real world and how this country and Europe have been suckered by the smart-shrewd Kosher Mafia.
sounds as though the US is getting the same “attention” Palestine has been subjected to for many a year..
another thought: those who allow themselves to be bought are owned..
THE PALESTINIANS WON’T GET THEIR FREEDOM FROM ISRAEL UNTIL THE AMERICANS DO.
GANDHI SAID THAT PALESTINE BELONGS TO THE ARABS.
MIKE
Thanks Gordon. excellent article. It makes me wonder of the Three? Billion per year given by us to Israel, then I think about the unlimited amounts of money donated to mostly Conservative players in this last election to help take out the other side, without any ability to trace where it comes from.-or who is it from? Slightly off track but within the realms of this article, I recently through a post was able to link to one of your radio interviews with GijadRadio, I believe. You were talking about some small podunk runway in Afghanistan? Not absolutely sure if that’s accurate. Anyway you described how Huge remotely flown Global Hawks, were being used not only to rendition others, but more importantly were being used to ship the manufactured Heroin from that country and ship it out globally,unmanned. This fascinated me, because these corrupt freaks now have this ability to do these things anonymously. The individual ‘Flying’ the aircraft probably has a few acne, and no idea what their action is participating in. Have you wriiten any articles about this, or can you write an update article of this information. Thank you. I don’t want to take the heat off the Israeli PRICKS. – Sorry I hear Caps is a no-no, yet who knows? maybe it ties in some way. Thank you. I’m sorry I missed out on the Craig Pepe, I’m a Christian guy, and apparently my arch nemesis, Larry A Dickerstine. I’ll have to tune in sooner! Thanks as always for your great work.
Sincerely
TJB
hey TJ can you tell me what u mean when u say you
“missed out on the Craig Pepe”
I dont get it
“missed out on the Craig Pepe”
I dont get it,
Correct,Craig Pepe,
you don’t get it!!
hey fix hows it going
iam getting the cold shoulder / silent treatment from a few people here
oh well,
hopefully they come around
and eventaully see me as a good guy and an ally of all things good
You can speak to me, lets talk about W’s arm sales deal with Communist China in mid 2007? The one the US people aren’t suppose to know about, it’s a good thing that joint venture was sold to British Company before he departed office. Why does a president of Democratic country wish to sales Arms to a communist country?
He’s your favorite president, explain this, or do you even know?
Anyone who doesn’t believe W belongs in prison…sharing a cell with someone really unpleasant…is not worth anyone’s time.
anyone not repulsed by “w” is a dullard
g
We do have something in common, “W” is your favorite president, and he’s my worse president of all time. You love him, and I hate him.
OS the guy pointing the finger at Russia
teams up with Duff to talk s–t about George W Bush
it seems they think they allege that Bush sold arms
also OS wants to apply all sorts of different standards, and jsut generally be deceptive
so I dont trust him at all
as for Duff
I trust him
but I disagree with him about Bush
knowing full well that his opinion is
PROBABLY more weightly than mine
like I said I am 99% sure that Bush is a really awesome guy
I am going to have to see something really drastic with my own eyes or hear something really drastic with my own ears to think otherwise
not that what I think is more important then what anyone else thinks
Trust no one
The difference between me and you is experience, I am not speaking about news stories, but experience at the location.
If conflict arose between the US and China via Iran / N. Korea and S., Russia would clearly be the primary benefactor. You should think more about this, it’s the stone throwers that create situations. It would greatly benefit Russia through sales of (Arms and Oil) to China, Craig you assess and study the activities of benefactors in any situation, and pursue stone throwers. (Stone throwers are spies placed into position to instigate an outcome by design).
Many of the stories Gordon writes in this News Service are for preventative measures and exposing possible opportunities to instigate negative outcome.
Craig, Deception is for people who don’t research and talk about something based on no information or facts. With some research, you would discover the arms deal, but it requires some deep digging into partnerships and company activities and sales.
The real reason you don’t trust me, is you know this information is correct. And you seem to be protecting W without any research, that’s real deception? That deal in 2007, I was in this country during this time and spoke with Chinese Official that traveled to US with delegation for the “Arms Deal” and others, and other was partnership company receiving US Tax Payer based bank project in another area (They received several substantial tax payer based deals during W administration). I hope one of these days you really understand what “W” was doing around the world with his partnership companies. I can’t tell you anymore, or would blow my cover.
The purpose of the comment section is for supporting the topic, providing insight, and for open debate.
When in Special Operations we re-evaluated situations, and modified the mission as necessary. If told to rally at some specific location after mission we did so, but after briefing would disappear miles from this location without anyones knowledge. Later would return to origin location without anyones knowledge as well.
OS says: The real reason you don’t trust me, is you know this information is correct
well OS believes me trust me
the last think I would want to do is try to blow your cover
I dont like you at all
but trying not to let my dislike of you interfere with my reasoning
it seems that you are accusing Bush as an individual of selling weapons to China, and you seem to think, that this is necesarilly a bad thing
I think Regan was also accused of selling weapons
but as I understand it he was trying to arm good guys to overthrow bad guys
and it got all misconstrued as the bad guys control the information
Graig,
My entire family is military veterans, two of my brothers retired from the military several years ago, another is disabled. My wife is military veteran, her brother is former Marine. When working abroad, I make certain there’s no activity counter to the safety of our troops during war time.
Because my family is all military veterans. Anything going to China has the possibility of being supplied to Iran, and then maybe Iraq. Any possibility can put my military brothers and sisters at risk, and it’s worth my life to stop this activity when possible.
I spent years watching over my brothers, and not going to stop watching over others as well.
My family has served in the US Military since 1772 in this country.
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Graig,
My entire family is military veterans, two of my brothers retired from the military several years ago, another is disabled. My wife is military veteran, her brother is former Marine. When working abroad, I make certain there’s no activity counter to the safety of our troops during war time.
Because my family is all military veterans. Anything going to China has the possibility of being supplied to Iran, and then maybe Iraq. Any possibility can put my military brothers and sisters at risk, and it’s worth my life to stop this activity when possible.
I spent years watching over my brothers, and not going to stop watching over others as well.
OS I dont beelive anything you say , so you are wasting your time
When will all the populace wake up. and demand america Kick Is—ra—hell’s ASS.
Yes Carter was excellent, looking back on it in retrospect. His recent book, and subsequent statements about Israel, I agree with. I have not read the book but agree with it’s overall premise. I have listened to several of Carters interviews or statements on You tube about Israel. They are in my favorites list. He speaks truth to (power)??!! I have told others in the resent past, that at the time, I didn’t appreciate him. I was young. We had all types of problems going on. Gas lines, odd day even day, excessive interest rates,economy was in limbo, the soon to be Israel Tow Missile Iran Contra John Hull Cocaine affair would be exposed later in Reagans unfortunate era. I would then say, I didn’t realize but I do now, he actually was a ‘Saint’! I wonder if that will get the Tribe’s feathers ruffled!!
Jeff Maylor, I disagree. It has appeared to me there had been Gross manipulations of events through those years.(and subsequent years leading up to today.) The prime example is the Iran Contra Hostage taking scenario. Everyday all the news stations would start out with Day 157 of the hostage event. Day 361, almost one year of the hostage taking. Up to 400 plus days. Etc. Etc. We had gas rationing lines. Carter set an example. Put solar panels on the white house roof. Let’s get away from these monkeys, thing, Jeff. Then the deal is made. Carter’s Delta Force rescue attempt is somehow thwarted in Oct. 1980 in the desert of Iran. Nine Americans lost their lives that day in an attempt to make a daring rescue of our fifty something hostages from the US Embassy. They blame it on taking dust covers off the engines.Singlaub, North, Secord. Several anti Patriot types, Poindexter. All involved in that failed attempt. Then Carter is smeared. He loses the election to a Howdy-Doody actor. Mr tough talk, because as an actor, he knows how to make it believeable that he is. Denture Clickers and ignorants alike all fall for it. You got to hear, Jeff,- Ronald Reagan Talking about this situation about the tow missles being sent to the AYATOLLAH. -Sorry for the Caps, I wasn’t shouting, just didn’t want you to miss the Irony. Reagan says’ (paraphrased)” In my heart I didn’t think we were trading arms for hostages, yet the reality,evidence shows that we were….”–That’s classic Man! These lines issued by an actor were the best. -Should have won an Oscar. With the media assistance, were bought, Hook, Line, and sinker.-Anyway Jeff, my finger tips hurt,Carter was a nuke sub Admiral-that shows some leadership skills, and I gotta take a piss. Conspiracies happen Daily. Start doing some research.
Thank You
Have a nice day
TJ,
It was equipment malfunction that comprised the mission in Iran, sand in engines. Former President Carter made the right decision to cancel the mission, because larger force was actually deployed to support task force. The large force could have continued the mission regardless, but this would have started war inside the country of Iran. Standard procedure is forming perimeter around facility while task force extracts hostages, this performed so no enters or departs the operational area. When helicopters crashed and some people lost, the operation was compromised.
However, the second option was taking the hostages by force and would have led to small war in the country and the compromised safety of hostages (Timeline shortened). My Unit worked directly under President Carter, Presidential Unit Citation. Former President Carter was never given the credit he deserved for missions established to rescue people, there’s more then Iran. He activated special units for rescue operations, aircraft hijacking, and other, his security objectives were more comprehensive then people understood. However this president did not expose the US people to constant terror alerts for counter-terrorism, his projects and work were developed to keep American people safe without exposing them to constant threat alerts. Many people don’t know about his security objectives during this time.
OS,
We have very different info on the Iran mission. None of the cover story is true. We have folks who were there. We may have to cover this at some point but George Bush was involved. You can guess.
g
Gordon,
Delta Force was formed with some people from my Unit (friends) and others, commander was Lt. Colonel Downing overseeing operational development(we knew each other well), later General Downing. I served until 1979 not in 1980, the way these missions were setup was to form perimeter around objective with R-Battalions, then extract with Delta Teams. There were also, I believe (3) C-130′s or 41′s (used both) loaded with Rangers, which means mass air drop, and used for same tactic (large containment perimeter) for Hi-Jacked aircraft and hostage extraction. I was in special unit called F—-n Force, Carters counter-terrorist operations prior to Iran and on other missions. I was not in the Iran mission (1980), but understood the extraction method. Just came back from Panama, when counter-terrorist teams were formed under President Carter. Iran was later, more problems were located in Panama Jungles during this time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_A._Downing
Reference: May 77 – Jul 79 Commander, 2nd Battalion (Ranger), 75th Infantry, Fort Lewis, WA
I was in this Unit 1976-79, I think can say no more.
I don’t know about George Bush, but can discuss some more later as long as you screen before posting. But I know how the missions were planned and organized since conception. Delta, and how teams were formed and missions were planned. If you get some information, I can screen it as well.
Larry A Dickerson what is your view to date about September 11th! Still Box cutter boys? Some named are still walking the planet. Have you changed any of your views!?…Maybe that kind of view point is where there is a ‘rub’.Keep doing some research.
Thank you
gmg Thank you for your asking. I fully agree with the mantra,”to each their own as long as they don’t harm another.” This I look at being in my earlier years born and raised in Massachusetts, as a view that all of us should adopt.- Now with that being said, there are subtleties of what is harm and what is not. I believe physical harm is harming another.(My younger brother would have a field day with this divulgence!) Now also we learned sticks and stones can break my bones, but if you’re from this country, you will fill in the blanks.- And again I didn’t know you were the feller being called the Cad, yesterday. If you are truely trying to find truth and justice, I applaud you. What I meant to “Larry”(LAD) about the “rub” was that he has for the several months of running across his posts, we, me have come at odds of his posts. they, to me did not make sense, with the overwhealming evidence of the September 11 attacks upon our country. He staunchly defended the official version that we got taken by four small cells, in four aircraft. -By official story, with plastic Home Depot type cutter knives. No one from Norad was available that day, and they all just had a nice lazt eight flight over the North East for an hour or so until they all “did” their dasterdly deeds. I must add that you must be a simpleton to believe this , because if you, or I was on a flight and four guys got up and started screaming, and possibly you,I witnessed a harming action, I would, and I know others would in a group mentality take action upon the ‘aggressors’. This didn’t happen that day in four out of four Aircraft(YAA I hear your Shanksville BS Argument!)So this is Larry’s “Rub” or predicament as it means. He has constantly argued quite vociferously that there is no conspiracy of Sept. 11. There is a conspiracy. Look up “the Five Dancing Israeli’s”, tell me what you find. Urban Moving Systems. Tell me what you find. Lawrence A Dickerson, tell me what you find.
Thank you-The whole “un American, American thing, well…
Larry ,I don’t think that Gordon should have removed your post.I was quite enjoying pointing out its flaws.You don’t seem have seen the disconnect in logic you have in supporting a totally corrupt and disfunctional congress that has sold out its own people.They will totally destroy the USA and perhaps bring on WW3.So what’s your solution Larry?
TSA TALMUD SEXUAL ASSAULT!! TSA TSA TALMUD SEXUAL ASSAULT!! TSA
http://www.israel-palestinenews.org/2010/11/israeli-forces-beat-palestinian-woman.html
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Saturday, November 27, 2010
Israeli forces beat Palestinian woman prisoner for refusing strip search
Ma’an – The PA Ministry of Prisoners Affairs released a report Saturday alleging that a Palestinian woman in Israeli custody was brutally beaten in the Ramle prison after she refused to submit to a strip search.
Twenty-two-year-old Sumoud Hasan Karaja, from the central West Bank village of Saffa, was transferred from Israel’s Damon prison to the Ramle facility on 8 November, lawyers for the ministry reported after visiting the woman.
At Ramle prison, the report said, a group of male and female wardens wanted to strip-search her but she refused.
When she struggled, a male warden grabbed her head covering and her neck, pushing her into the ground. She said one warden spat in her face, then the male pulled her up forcibly by the handcuffs on her wrists behind her back. Read more
you got that right, the Jews are marching towards hell I saw we ought to simply throw them in there and toss away the key.
All this talk is great boys!!! But what oh what will you all do about this ??????like what are you going to do just sit like a quacking duck and be takin out ?????
what has happined to the American spirit ??????
Where are the Brave and the Free????????
Please answer !!!WHAT WILL YOU ALL DO ????????????
I AM SPEAKING TO ALL AMERICANS ………….
SOMEONE PLEASE ANSWER ………
All this talk is great boys!!! But what oh what will you all do about this ??????like what are you going to do just sit like a quacking duck and be takin out ?????
what has happined to the American spirit ??????
Where are the Brave and the Free????????
Please answer !!!WHAT WILL YOU ALL DO ????????????
I AM SPEAKING TO ALL AMERICANS ………….
SOMEONE PLEASE ANSWER ………
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Thank you both for the answers………it doe’s help to cope and deal with “it”
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Tj Bronco,no we haven’t forgotten about Bush,Cheney etc, but Obama is far more dangerous than Bush,since he brings is more facism under left cover.Obama is just another puppet like Bush. Sarah Paling the fence sitter, is looking for her opportunity too.There aren’t too many honest ones and the ones who sometimes look good,can be easily bought out.
Ron Paul has distanced himself from the Tea Party since the Corp deviates have financed it.It is a quagmire of deception with the aim of creating confusion.Divide and conquer has always been the strategy.
OBUMMER IS THE MANCHURIAN PRESIDENT —-(COUNTRY “A” IN THE MIDDLE EAST HAS)COMPLETE CONTROL OVER HIM AND CONVENIENTLY, IF YOU CRITICIZE HIM YOU WILL BE BRANDED A RACIST.
CRITICIZE HIS ADMINISTRATION, AND YOU WILL BE BRANDED AN ANTISEMITE OR HOLOCAUST DENIER.
MIKE
jeff maylor you said that already
its clear you want to diminish the community here,
i will try hard to stop you
Far from it Jeff.The likes of Gordon Duff ,Ron Paul etc firmly believe in the American constitution and freedom of the individual to pursue happiness.You call that anti-American?
Jeff,
Your comment says more about you than it says about VT.
Same old story, all roads lead to Israel and no one will hang the bell on the cat.
Craig, do you still think you’re in charge of something here? You’re good for laughs and that’s all. Enjoy it!
John, with the insult, hows it going JOhn?
A brilliant assessment. Whatever else may be in doubt, anyone with an IQ above 90 and an Internet connection must know that AIPAC controls the United States, and that can only be classified as: A Bad Thing.
But the line that made me fall out of my chair was:
“We also know that Israel, Turkey, India, Pakistan, China and Russia
trade American secrets back and forth like baseball cards.”
Hey Anthony, I am familiar with you
I think you are great and do a great job
all the best
Gordon,
Let’s see if this release is timed for the same day that Rosen is supposed to answer in court. Think it’s Dec 2. So Dec 1st seems like a likely release day to bury the brunt of a possible Rosen explosion, and they should know by the 1st whether Rosen has been offered and has accepted an out-of-court settlement.
Gordon, I remember when the Washington Post was advertising pentagon secrets during the Vietnam War and putting our soldiers in jeopardy.
The Jews are behind Christianity, too!!!!
BOB,
that is what they want you to think! to demoralize you! TURN OVER THE TABLES OF THE MONEY CHANGERS LIKE JESUS DID AND ALL WILL BE WELL. THAT MEANS NO MORE DEFAMATION LEAGUE, AIPAC OR SPLC. SIDE STEP THE FEDERAL RESERVE LIKE KENNEDY DID BY ISSUING CURRENCY DIRECTLY FROM THE USA TREASURY. NO DUAL CITIZENSHIP. NO MORE JEWISH FEDERAL OR SUPREME COURT JUDGES!
GORDON , I HOPE MY COMMENT IS CONSIDERED A PERSONAL ATTACK ON ANYONE.
MIKE
You made three excellent points:
1) Carter’s foreign policy and fiscal conservatism are taught to look on him as a failure.
2) General Petraeus outlined how Israel is undermining American foreign policy.
3) AIPAC is a dangerous foreign lobby.
It must be said, however, that this is more the work of fanatics in dire need of punishment than that of a large group of coreligionists—-who are absorbed into the fracas by reasons of ethnicity and faith. This kind of disloyalty has occurred in the past and will inevitably happen again… but it now concerns us.
More than bitching, an organized class action is needed.
Fantastic article Mr. Duff, something was funny about this from the beginning.
After seeing what has just been leaked and the amount of stuff saying that Iran’s Arabic neighbours all want air strikes against her, I am inclined to agree with your assessment Gordon. WikiLeaks is being used by Mossad via AIPAC.
AIPAC STILL RULES
TJ Bronco says: “Ross, please don’t acquire amnesia, and forget what happened from 2001-2008…”
Oh Bronco, have you not yet got over the False Left / Right Paradigm, or heard of Continuity of Agenda? Have you not figured out that no matter who gets to be POTUS or Prime Minister, they’re still paid for and under the control of the same scumbag Globalist Elites?
It matters not one jot who was President on 9/11, or who is president now: They have not served “We the People” since the CIA with the Mafia put a bullet in Kennedy’s skull.
Phillip Brennan I get it ,yet it’s the only bone we are given. I agree about The CIA(Bush Sr), yes mafia, and more . It’s been said, with Israel’s influence as well. The USS Liberty attack was only several years later. Madeliene Brown, LBJ’s Mistress for twenty one years has an interesting hour and twenty minutes of I was there info. Marita Lorenz, or Maritza Lorenz, Fidel Castro’s lover at one point,”Dear Fidel’ letters from Marita” was involved with CIA, FBI, Mafia, and was given the botulism pills that were supposed to kill him. Yes it’s a sordid crowd out there at the top. And they have not served the people because of that bullet in his head. Thank you.
“They have not served “We the People” since the CIA with the Mafia put a bullet in Kennedy’s skull.”
Long before that Phil.
You right g.
Just finished reading thru all the leaks available in the Guardian.
Something is way off about this… and unless Wikleak has more and different to come and I would say their ‘releases’ have an agenda in some country’s favor.
I noticed in the cables released on Saudi, not one (so far) contains anything with the King’s complaints about Israel, only complaints about Iran.
Yep…something definitely up there.
Does AIPAC stand for “Assholes Infesting Patriotic Americans Consciences?”
Why do I keep wondering why the USA had NO enemies in the Middle East until Israel came into existence?
Thanks Gordon. excellent article. It makes me wonder of the Three? Billion per year given by us to Israel
Three Billion? More like 30 BILLION. Dig into the annual USA budget and see how many business, industrial and military contracts get let out to Apartheid Israel. While you’re at it, look up the amount of money ‘We the People’ give to Israel each year in the form of loans, which are NEVER paid back.
Many years ago, when the Abu Ghraib story came out with all those pics, MSN USA censored me by deleting my private blog on MSN Germany, because I put up a link to a website which had published all photos and videos, but absolutely no bad word about the government. Additional to the link I also put up 2-3 photos, and first they requested to delete them, what I did, but still they closed my blog. I requested many times help from the customer service of MSN Germany and after 3-4 help calls they replied, they could not help me, that action was taken by MSN USA. And I am a private person, no company….
what the disinfo agent at 7:38 pm is talking about was fake then and fake now
ion my opinion
Disinfo agent? pah What you know!
Disinfo? Open your mind pls. The videos and pics are verified to be true. Why else would the US government admit anything?
Gordon, Wikileaks is definitely not kosher, although perhaps Assange is more dupe than anything else.
Here’s the latest proof that wikileaks is nothing more than US/Mossad intel setting the state for another war.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/usdiplomacymilitaryinternetwikileakssaudiiran
Several disasters, high interest rates, the hostage crisis and the failed rescue attempt showed signs of conspiratorial meddling
A good friend, whose Father worked at something back then that I believe was called the ‘Defense Mapping Agency,’ or something along those lines, which had a major part of their operation stationed near St. Louis, MO told me his Dad said the story put out about the Iranian rescue attempt and the helicopters crashing in the Iran Desert near Tehran was BOGUS.
His Father claimed that someone had tipped off the Iranians ahead of the rescue attempt and they were waiting at the exact spot the copters were to land and blew them to pieces.
Now I wonder who would do something like that?
to make Carter look bad, and like he was betraying them
yup
You are the worse site i have view. You have made the whole world in danger. you should close your website and sit down with your staff and think what you have done to sell your news. you have done a disgrace to your profession.i can go on and condemn you on and on and on. but i am not like you all in wiki leak, hope you will and can be prosecuted.May Allah forgive your miserable soul.
Adam Abdullah
Adam,
Not meaning to be unkind but I suspect your english skills are not up to reading Veterans Today. No one at VT is paid.
You do know your comments are…demented?
g
Stick to Hebrew
Adam is a pretender. Muslims never say “May Allah forgive your miserable soul”. And I mean it never ever. The phrase they use is “May Allah guide you”. Also note the veil threat in his comment: Hope you will and can be prosecuted. In perfect spotless English.
JIDF maybe ?
im think that adam is jewish pretending to be an arab
but thats just me
I am often wrong
think—>thinking
Excellent article Gordon. It’ not only AIPAC that is controlling US foreign and economic policy. It is also the US industrialists and their interests that are allied to the city of London elites. These network of agents is far bigger and elaborate that stretches back well over 150 years. AIPAC is just another arm of this network. Congressman Larry Macdonald talked about this before his plane crash in 1983. The Generals if they want to change the way things work in the US have work to in (un)democratic way. Seize all mainstream tv and newspaper networks.Then they can inform the American public about the Israeli threat.
rash,
thanks
g
[...] are not too careful with double checking the validity of their sources. Many of us believe that WikiLeaks are being used by AIPAC to further the agenda of the Industrial Military Complex by discrediting the foundations of the US [...]
Guess who already knew what was in the recent release before it was even released: http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=197130
The other question is who is benefiting from it?
Smith what is your purpose for bragging about how jewish people generally know things and know what is coming before the non jewish public know things?
Maybe because the Zionists know this before every one else because they are doing it. Is that difficult to assume?
pointing out how much more relatively in the dark the non-jews are than the jewish people, in my view serves only to demoralize and break confidence
and I dont like it
if you know something, dont hold out
Dude, it is not about knowing. Every one knows it by now, that all these all sham shows. Atleast those who are not still attached by their umbilicus to Fox, CNN and BBC. Maybe it is time you let go of it too. Read alternative news and analysis. And more importantly think for yourself, instead of relying on “expert opinions” of main stream channels.
are u a Christian SMith?
and if you cant give me a one word answer
and you go off on some bull shit tangent then dont bother
im looking for yes or no
No. But I know you are a Zionist Fascist patrolling here.
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