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GORDON DUFF: WHY ATTACKING HELEN THOMAS IS ANTISEMITISM
“LUCY, YOU GOT SOME ‘SPLAININ TO DO..”
By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor
Part of our continuing series, “Everything You Think You Know You Learned From A Liar,” we are going to talk a bit, a short talk as it is the holiday season, about Semites. Semites are people from the Middle East, not a race, but a language group. There is no Semite or Semitic race and never has been. There are Semites, however, They are people who speak Semitic languages or, if we want to apply a more modern and inaccurate definition, folks from areas where those languages, Akkadian, Amharic, Arabic, Aramaic, Ge’ez, Hebrew, Maltese, Phoenician, Tigre and Tigrinya and several others were spoken.
Hebrew is one of these and Jews who come from areas where Hebrew was spoken, in continuity, as a language, can be Semites as are all Arabic speakers. Since half the Hebrew speakers, anecdotally of course are Americans and Arabic speakers are spread across the world, it is fair to pull the borders in, let’s say from Ethiopia to Turkey to the border of Iran and into the Arabian Peninsula.
So, when you are talking about Antisemitism, you are talking about people who hate folks from that region, a racial mix of fully African to generally Middle Eastern. Of course, when we use a linguistic group to describe a racial or religious division, we have automatically become liars. When Israel welcomes Jews from Africa, they are welcoming pure Semites, maybe the purest Semites in all of Israel.
So, how does this apply to Helen Thomas? Remember when she said that she wanted the Jews from Germany and Poland and Russia to go back home? Helen Thomas is a ProSemite. She may now be considered an extremist, a 90 year old rights activist dedicated to the Semite cause. The problem is, her definition of “Semite” is inclusive and others is, can we be kind and say, “selective?”
PROSEMITE, HELEN THOMAS
Her issue, of course, is that she believes that Zionism, the belief by Jews that all “original Semitic regions,” constitute “Greater Israel” and are the exclusive domain of what they consider an exclusive racial group that also practices the religion of Judaism. “Greater Israel” is, as Zionists describe it, all lands from the Nile in Egypt to the Tigris and Euphrates rivers and south, including the Arabian Peninsula. This, pretty much, covers the regions of the original language group, the Semites, noticeably leaving out Ethiopia and other regions of Africa. As for why these areas are omitted, we have our suspicions based on more than a bit of controversy within Israel about “racial purity” and “African blood” but that’s another story for another day.
Thomas insists that “settlers” who are displacing Palestinians, pure “Semites” if there really is such a thing, which we know there isn’t, are mostly European. Despite attempts by pseudo-science to claim there is a Jewish gene, one some claim is tied to the last surviving Neanderthals, who fled to the Caucasus Mountains, no real ties between Jews and Neanderthals has ever been established. Neanderthals, with their larger brains and aggressive nature, well, we don’t need to go there. This kind of thinking befits the people who used to predict criminal behavior by measuring heads and checking for bumps. Phrenology?
THIS IS THE BEST PART
There isn’t a shred of real evidence that the Palestinians living in Judea when Israel became a state in 1947 hadn’t originally been Jews, many converted to Christianity and more later converted to Islam. After the Jewish revolt of 132-5 CE, Hadrian tried to expel the Jews. However, all he accomplished was changing the name of Judea to Syria-Palaestinia. The Jews remained. They are still there, living behind a 20 foot wall, land mines, barbed wire, living in Gaza, some, while others are in refugee camps in Lebanon or Jordan and some are still practicing Judaism. Welcome to the wonderful world of Historical Revisionism, Israeli style.
To the majority of Semites, whatever religion they were to embrace eventually, they shared some common influences, Hellenic certainly, later Byzantine and during the 7th Century onward, that of Islam. There was clearly a broad acceptance of Christianity among Jews. In 636, when Islam Muslims arrived in Jerusalem, it was an entirely Christian city. It wasn’t until the 11th century, Caliph Hakim VI (who believed himself to be a god), that the destruction of the Holy Sepulcher led to a series of Crusades, ever changing the political perceptions of the relationships in the region.
From that time to the beginning of the 20th century, almost every version of the history of the region you will read is total fabrication, no matter whose position it supports. We know the Ottoman Empire brought Jews from Europe to help with administration. Zionist sources claim these Jews from Germany, Poland, Russia and other areas of Eastern Europe had been driven there by the Romans during the early 2nd century. There is no proof of this, quite the contrary. There is, however, considerable proof that these Jews were of Khazar ancestry.
KHAZARS
There is considerable controversy about the Khazars simply because most Jews alive today, perhaps well beyond “most” are of Khazar ancestry. Around 740 CE, a kingdom formed of tribal groups in Southern Russia, extending from Kazakhstan on the east to well into Eastern Europe on the west, the Ukraine, Belarus, Slovakia, Romania, Serbia, Moldova, even much of Hungary, chose to convert to Judaism. The regions covered by the vast Khazarian Empire included peoples of the Steppes, Turks but also the Slavic and even Nordic groups. For 200 years, this Jewish culture flourished but was eventually crushed, overrun and displaced. However, that culture and the Khazar Jews didn’t disappear, they simply stopped existing as a nation.
The Khazar Empire lasted into the 10th century, had a total population in the many millions with a proud history. While Charles Martel was stopping Islam from overrunning Europe in the West, it was the Khazars that kept Europe as Christian by blocking Muslim expansion into Europe from the east.
However, Zionist groups trying to ascribe “Semitic” ancestry to European Jews, despite their totally European appearance, have advanced wild theories to explain how, during the Roman era, Jews were resettled across, well, Khazaria and as far west as the Rhine River in Germany. These theories minimize and erase the Khazars for no other reason than to attempt to establish European Jews as “Semites” is a useful ploy in answering attacks on ethnic cleansing policies brought against Israel. Khazars are inferior Jews, it is claimed, because they lack “Semitic blood.” But, as we explained earlier, there are only Semitic languages, there is no such thing as “Semitic Blood.”
It is far easier and so much more profitable to credit Eastern Europe and Russia’s large Jewish population to bizarre theories of Roman era emigration than to the startling fact that those groups directly overlay the former Khazar Empire. This attempt to erase Khazarian history in order to justify removal of Palestinians based on wild suppositions about the racial ancestry of European practitioners of the Jewish religion an absurd and unsupportable hypothesis. That hundreds of academics, several Nobel Prize winners, have published “race based” papers supporting these suppositions is adequate reason to doubt all race based scholarship. Race based scholarship is, in fact, racism.
Zionists support the theory that, in and around 135 CE, Jews were expelled from Judea and resettled throughout the Roman Empire, thus accounting for the Jewish populations in Eastern Europe and Russia. Perhaps, might have wanted to have taken time to view a map of the Roman world of that era. Check the Empire’s northern borders from that period against what we know to be Jewish population patterns in Europe;
When one takes into account that this border was only held for a short period of time and that the many of the frontier regions were sparely settled, largely by former Roman soldiers, one or two questions might come to mind. There is no evidence of Jewish settlements in remote regions of the Empire nor is their evidence that Jews in significant numbers fled Israel to live among the Gothic tribes.
This map depicting Jewish populations in Europe as supplied by the ADL, (Anti-Defamation League) gives clear ideas as to size and distribution of Europe’s Jewish population prior to the Holocaust. If the maps are superimposed, a pattern emerges placing Europe’s Jews either within the borders of Khazaria or close but distinctly outside the any areas of long term Roman control or established non-military settlements.
PALESTINE
At the beginning of the 20th century, almost the entire population of Palestine were Semites. Of Palestine’s Semitic population of 700,000, approximately 70,000 or 10% were Jews. The majority were Muslim and Christian Semites.
Again, we return to the Helen Thomas issue. If Palestinian Semites, many, maybe even most of original Jewish “stock,” are forcibly removed from their land because of misconceptions regarding their race and replaced by European Jews who claim Semitic ancestry, what are the issues?
- Can land be taken from one group of Semites and given to another group of Semites based on religion? Is this not a violation of Article II of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights to which Israel is signatory?
Article 2.
Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.
- Is there, perhaps, some history of colonial exploitation, ethnic cleansing and mass murder based on interpretations of the wishes of invisible supreme beings? Haven’t such practices been widely discredited? With, literally tens of thousands such beings currently worshiped by the people of member states in the United Nations, everything from shark gods to statues with arms and legs coming from every direction, can we fairly establish a criteria for which being has the authority of life and death over the worshipers of another? Doesn’t Article II apply here also?
- Whether Jews wanting to settle in Palestine are or are not of ethnicity directly related to one of the Semitic language groups of the Middle East, how does this diminish the rights of any other person or group? The idea of wanting to establish that European Jews settling in Palestine have superior legal status because of “Semitic” ancestry is, in itself, reasonable proof of intent to use this status, real or imagined, to violate the basic human rights of others.
‘BACK WHERE WE CAME FROM’
Helen Thomas may have stepped a bit far when telling people to “go back to where they came from.” She grew up in Detroit but is from a Lebanese-American family. In fact, not only are we all from some place else, when we go back far enough, none of us can guess where that might be. Out of convenience, I guess, some groups claim all life goes back only some 6000 years.
The real issue isn’t European Jews who settled in Israel returning to Europe. The issue is the removal of an existing population, Semites for sure, of Jewish ancestry in all likelihood, because members of an technologically and particularly militarily advanced society have the power to take what they wish and believe they can use race and historical fabrication, no matter how shoddy and haphazard, to cover their tracks.
I can’t imagine many people who are in a position to criticize Helen Thomas for a minor misstatement. What is clear is that those who attack Helen Thomas do so as in order to cover crimes against humanity as outlined in the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
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Gordon, thanks for the history lesson….it is convenient for the conguerors to manipulate information to achieve their goals. Ethnic cleansing is nothing new….
and the Israeli government is planning to take all of gaza and the west bank. The failure to achieve an agreement for a Palestinian nation while continuing to enslave the existing populace with ongoing Israeli settlement expansion exposes the plan. Helen Thomas refused to follow the Israeli/American press agenda and suffered the consequences.
Our government occupies Iraq and Afghanistan under the false pretense that the Taliban attacked the U.S. on 911. The ‘arab terrorist’ is an ongoing mantra of the U.S. media and government. Many of us are duped into believing the constant propaganda. The ‘native americans’ lost their land to the American conquerors who utilised many of the same procedures as is being used by the Israeli government. These crimes will continue until americans and others see the fraud and stop supporting these governments and the people that perpetrate the lies. Best, Doug
New people watch this video ( not you Doug ):
“Benjamin Freedman Speech”
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5224839731207532170#
To keep ones eye on the ball, listening to BF is always useful. Thanks!
Mike
Everything Gordon said can be confirmed by “Jewish Defector” Benjamin Freedman’s writings and in his speech in 1961.
http://www.keepthetruthalive.com/2006/08/benjamin-h-freedman-1961-speech.html
Also, in all publications of the Jewish Encyclopedia’s up till the 1940’s it stated: that almost all Jews today are Ashkenazi’s (90% +) which are of Khazarian Ancestry.
Many Jews today have admitted that the term “Anti-Semitism” is just a defense mechanism for those who dare to speak the truth instead of the Rockefeller sanctioned Pseudo-American and World History taught in America.
Included is Darwinism, the history of humanity 6000 years old, Biblical Baloney, The Jews are “God’s Chosen”, Holocaust History, Zionism version of the History of Israel, etc…
They are even are digging up bones now, to prove that the origins of history are out of Israel or what I would like to call “Isnt real” instead of Africa. I can’t wait to hear the BULL they sill spew from imaginative minds from their new find in “Isnt real”. If you really believe their historical rhetoric, I’d like to recommend some more historical reading like Mother Goose, Humpty Dumpty, 3 little Bears, Winnie the Poo….
You guys are getting very good at this.
You’re almost ready…
Funny, how no one says anything.
Hphm…
okay
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Excellent work Gordon as usual.
Everything said here can be researched on your own.
What is funny is how quickly they put the anti-Semite tag on her
So what would you call a Semite that makes antisemitic comments?
Well, if it is a jew, they call it a “self-hating jew”.
If it is a non- jew Semite (such as myself) I guess there is no distinction, we all fall under the same anti-Semitic category…
Of course! Some Americans are waking up, including “jews”! According to Israel Shamir, being a “jew” is optional to a jew, it is a choice.
Mike
I guess you would call him or her a ‘SELF HATING ARAB’… That’s why the Zion Talmudic Mafia Dons INVENTED the term “TERRORISTS” to libel the true Semites with.
Nicely done, G. A little focused history to put things in perspective is good.
Article => “Thomas insists that “settlers” who are displacing Palestinians, pure “Semites” if there really is such a thing, which we know there isn’t, are mostly European.”
T.P. => In this case Helen Thomas is on the right side. Israel is a warm Mediterranean mecca for old people to retire at American taxpayers’ expense. Israel can’t afford all these half-frozen old European farts pouring in — finding their own version of Florida — without American money. To hide the reality, the power structure screams about the farce, anti-Semitism. Your article clearly points this out. It is a warm place-to-retire issue, nothing else, paid for by milking the fat American cow (Goyim). Before America? They milked European Goyim. Do you wonder why Goyim Europeans got so pissed that World Wars followed?
T.P.
tom
wish i’d sed that
TeaPartier,
Now, I’m truly embarrassed at the possibility of having stood anywhere next to you. I hope you were not at the 8/28 rally in D.C.
Gordon,
Surely, you’re aware the ADL is watching you. Take it as a compliment! The ADL article also mentioned the bold Jeff Gates. No mention of Craig Pepe.
The article made me laugh. We need more courageous people to take on Zionism. From the ADL article:
Many of the conspiracy theories about Israel and WikiLeaks are being promulgated by an anti-Semitic conspiracy theorist named Gordon Duff on his Web site Veterans Today, which features anti-Israel and Holocaust denial materials. Duff has authored numerous articles and appeared in interviews advancing his allegations that Israel orchestrated WikiLeaks as a public relations campaign. In an undated interview with British-based IQRA TV, Duff even implicated India’s intelligence agency as being part of the conspiracy to bolster Israel’s image.
In another interview with the mainstream the Israeli newspaper Haaretz on December 17, 2010, Duff told the paper that, “WikiLeaks is obviously concocted by an intelligence agency. It’s a ham-handed action by Israel to do its public relations.”
Duff’s articles have also appeared on white supremacist sites, including Stormfront a popular forum for extremists, former Klan leader David Duke’s site, as well as Newsnet14, which re-posted a Duff column under another title: “Wikileaks: Is the Stench Coming from the Jews?”
December 15, 2010: Gordon Duff published an article on the anti-Semitic site Rense, where he plainly stated, “WikiLeaks is Israel.” Duff alleged that former National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski seemed to have arrived at the same conclusion when he was said in an interview on PBS on December 2 that WikiLeaks is the front for an “intelligence agency” and that the material leaked was of a “pointed” nature.
December 13, 2010: In another article on Gordon Duff’s Web site, “Turning Our Enemy’s Inherent Decency into the Vehicle of Their Own Demise….Mossad,” he claimed that WikiLeaks was working with the Israeli intelligence agency Mossad to create a false war against Iran. He wrote, “Wikileaks has issued a virtual declaration of war against Iran, part of the Mossad’s ‘war by deception’ of which Wikileaks is a proven component. Blog after blog followed suit, spreading the same ‘poison,’ Wikileaks again ‘leaks’ false information citing Iran for having a nuclear weapons program long proven not to exist.”
December 8, 2010: In an article on Gordon Duff’s Web site titled, “Busted! Wiki Leaks Working for Israel,” he claimed, “Reports have come in today, tying Wikileaks founder, Julian Assange, directly to Israeli intelligence and “Israel friendly” media outlets. We are told Assange, while at a Geneva meeting, agreed to allow Israel to select or censor all Wikileak output.” Duff alleged that “Assange ‘the martyr’ now appears to be Assange ‘the Israeli spy.’” Duff also claimed that Assange has ties to Rupert Murdoch and the Fox Network and Newt Gingrich and described all three as “avid Zionists.”
November 27, 2010: In an article on Gordon Duff’s Web site, “Wikileaks, a Touch of Assange and the Stench of AIPAC,” he alleged that Israel was using WikiLeaks to destabilize the United States. He wrote, “Wikileaks is an intelligence operation to weaken and undermine the American government, orchestrated from Tel Aviv, using dozens of operatives, dual citizens, some at the highest authority levels, spies for Israel. Through leaking carefully selected intelligence along with proven falsified documents, all fed to a controlled press, fully complicit, Wikileaks is, in fact, an act of war against the United States.” Duff also alleged that AIPAC, a Jewish lobbying group, is behind Wikileaks and its actions.
November 30, 2010: Conspiracy theorist and anti-Semite Jeff Gates published an article in The Palestine Chronicle, titled, “Wikileaks: The Tel Aviv Connection.” Gates alleged that Israel orchestrated the Wikileaks scandals in order to delegitimize the United States and remove itself from scrutiny. He writes, “Tel Aviv knows that the phony intelligence on Iraq leads to those skilled at waging war ‘by way of deception’—the motto of the Israeli Mossad. Wikileaks are noteworthy for what’s missing: the absence of any material damaging to Israeli goals.” The same article was also published by Veterans Today on December 2 under the title, “Wikileaks and Espionage – Israeli Style.”
http://www.adl.org/main_Anti_Israel/conspiracy_theories_wikileaks.htm
I would have to move to Miami Beach to be handy for them. Remind them of today’s effort. They are quickly falling behind.
g
They also need to update other things such as the 911 attacks. I am surprised their article mentioned this:
Five years after the devastating September 11 terrorist attacks in the United States, conspiracy theories about Jews’ involvement in the events of that day continue to be promulgated through the Internet, publications, books and videos. Soon after the attacks, a number of conspiracy theorists on the far right and far left, as well as in the Muslim and Arab world, blamed the Israeli intelligence agency Mossad or the Israeli government for the attacks. Today, those theories are even more widespread and some have taken their anti-Semitic allegations even farther by claiming that it was specifically Jewish members of the Bush Administration who directed the government in planning the attacks for the benefit of Israel.
in a 2005 article in the publication, Bollyn wrote:
“From the very morning aircraft smashed into the World Trade Center (WTC) and the Pentagon, news reports have indicated Israeli intelligence being involved in the events of 9/11 and the planting of ‘false flags’ to blame Arab terrorists and mold public opinion to support the pre-planned ‘war on terror.’”
A typical comment published in April 2004 by the Egyptian government daily Al-Gumhouriyya indicated that not only were Jews involved in the attack, they were also behind the government and media cover-up. The article stated:
“We also find a heavy blackout by America regarding the results of the investigations into the September 11 events. So far it has published no conclusions, and has not told us who the real perpetrator of these events is, as revealed by the investigations. Since America knows very well that the Jews and the Mossad are behind these events, it will never declare the results of the investigations…”
http://www.adl.org/main_Anti_Semitism_Domestic/9_11_conspiracy_theories.htm
Gord – Until proven otherwise – I think Assange is an idiot sleaze-bag who obviously should have resigned from the group while he tried to clear his name.
Funds are now used for his Wiki-Lawyers ? If proved -let ‘em hang.
Until recently the Wikileaks site logo was an anonymous hour glass graphic. Just recently they put Assange’s face on it.
It’s their new ‘Facebook profile’ I guess. Gr8. Talk about cheapening a site.
Unbelievable.
But other than that – until all the material comes out, to be factual, I think you should refer to “WikiLeaks ‘information’” you believe to be fraudulent shilling.
None of it is ‘Top Secret’ and obviously many of the pencil-dicked pansies*…err ‘civil’ servants…just play the role.
Until we know more – much more provable indictments could be directed to people like Larry Silverstein, Dick Cheney, and Bibi.
{A few days ago I made some comments that could be deemed offensive to US or Canadian military.(Haven’t been here for a while – I can’t even find the story – As I’ve mentioned before – I often have trouble navigating this site.)
The point I was really trying to make was – seek out the truth.}
* I used to comment on more satirical sites. This is rehab.Deal with it.
Julian is about to follow in the Bush/Blair footsteps and make a packet selling his memoirs. Also heard yesterday on WRN that “Assange is staying at an estate in England”- some little niggling thought is telling me that I heard somewhere that it was the estate of Rothschild- I could be mistaken..
Ingrid, Please stop using that word niggling or you will help Larry Dickerstine establish VT as a KKK site.
Mike
You’re not alone, Gordon. Kudos for sticking with this subject. People are becoming bolder and the world is finally catching onto Israel’s crimes against humanity.
http://snardfarker.ning.com/profiles/blogs/greek-priest-claims-zionists
Greek Priest Claims Zionists Control The World
When Zionist don’t get their way, this is what they do:
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/297/954/Iceland_Under_Attack_HAARP_Activity_Corresponds_to_Iceland_Earthquake_Swarms.html
Iceland Under Attack? HAARP Activity Corresponds to Iceland Earthquake Swarms
hehehehe muaaaaaaaaaaaaa
buy one get one free… boxing day mate !
Poor Pepe.
Hey Pepe if you’re reading this, we miss you!
See Benjamin H. Freedman’s 1954 letter to Dr. Goldstein, at http://www.biblestudysite.com/factsarefacts.htm
So then I would be a Semite of probable jewish descent, whose ancestors converted away from judaism at some point in time?
Hmmm. Well, I guess that’s OK as long as I am not a Zionist…
Just worry about supporting Lebanon and your fellow Lebanese, Youssef. You’re fine.
Brooklyn Rabbi’s Son Arraigned On Sexual Abuse Charges
(They escaped NYC to Israel on the 29th of Dec. 2010)
This is what they really do……
On Friday, it was reported that a Brooklyn Rabbi and three of his sons were suspected of sexually abusing four female relatives. One of those sons, Yechezkel Kranczer, 24, was arraigned on charges of sexual abuse and endangering the welfare of a child in Brooklyn Criminal Court yesterday.
His passport was taken away, but he was let go on a $10,000 bail. Rabbi Kranczer and his 21-year-old legally-blind son Asher fled to Israel on Monday night, and police are currently coordinating with Israeli police to track him down. “This family…has been engaged in a horrific pattern of sexual abuse,” said Assistant District Attorney John Holmes. Kraczer, his father Rabbi Kranczer, and two other brothers are accused of abusing four relatives, now aged 20, 19, 17 and 8, for years. It’s unclear what the familial relationship was between the men and women, but Rabbi Kranczer is married to his first cousin; police raided their Midwood home, where they raised 14 children together, and which police believe was the site of many of the sexual attacks.
From a quiet well hidden source: http://gothamist.com/2010/12/05/brooklyn_rabbis_son_arraigned_on_se.php
what’s israel for anyway? Safe haven for criminals.
Mike
“The Jewish War Against Gentiles” (new Yahoo! forum) ….
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_jewish_war_against_gentiles/
Hebrew was a dead language until it was brought back to life in the 20th century by a person who went by the name of Eliezer Ben Yehuda. Prior to that, the most widely spoken language that was prevalent among the Eastern Europeans who were laboring under the mistaken belief that they were “Jews,” was a language known as “Yiddish.”
“Save The Goyim says:”
Great name!
The “Hebrew” of Ashkenazim claiming any sort of lineage to the Israelites of old is not true Hebrew. It is a bastardization of Yiddish and Biblical Hebraic and modern constructs. Neither it nor those who speak it are Semites and never will be.
@g
“…When Israel welcomes Jews from Africa…”
Israel doesn’t “welcome” them:
“Despite all of this sentiment, most of the Ethiopian Jews don’t fare well in their new life in Israel as well. Some of the issues they face include discrimination in Israel, problems with finding a fair settlement and various health issues due to the drastic change in diet…”
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/20729
(There are many more sources on this subject.)
You corrected yourself, later in your article:
“…This, pretty much, covers the regions of the original language group, the Semites, noticeably leaving out Ethiopia and other regions of Africa. As for why these areas are omitted, we have our suspicions based on more than a bit of controversy within Israel about “racial purity” and “African blood” but that’s another story for another day….”
With very little research, anyone can confirm your statement that Semite refers to a language group. This means that the immigrant Ethiopian Jews are targets of Israeli anti-Semitism!
The JY Times had an excellent truthful series about nigdenial by israel at the time it was happening. I read the whole series.
Mike
There was a small colony of arabian jewish settlers brought as persian administrators by the new ruler of Palestine,Cyrus the great of Persia, who had freed it ,and them, from the king of Babylon,they came to be known all the way to the new testament as Pharisees,for Farsis meaning Persians, this is in following semitic phonetics as in “Philistines”for Palestinians. The temple was built by Cyrus: by his written order and money (texto any bible: book of Ezra). The jews had fooled Cyrus by telling him that their Abraham is the Abraham-Zeradust of persians known as Zoroastrianism’s Zarathoustra. The king of Babylon had a mere 40 years previously taken captive about 10000 elites of the israelites caravans-pirate kingdom of Juddah whose capital Jerusalem was located at the present villages of Arwa + Salam near Tanumah in the Arabian 2000+ rainy highlands near yemen. The jews are of bin yamin (sons of Yemen). There was never any city called “Jerusalem” in Palestine except in the fantasies of European crusaders in the 1000 A.D+ out of the fraudulent -2300 y.o septuagint greek translation of hebrew thorah used by christianity to this day and which was a “trojan”like the Wikihoax of today.There was in that persian period a false prophet called Ezra-no blood legitimacy to kings or priests- who invented the Talmud and started the zionist mafia’s tenets and false myths not recognized by other original arab jews. Arab and Hebrew are metathesis reversal of consonants of a same semitic root. It is the same word. In the time of arrival of Islam,all of Arabia was 70% jewish,the rest 25% christian and animists. Ezra and his caste actively forced conversion on Palestinians but there was never a real independent jewish kingdom in Palestine. Palestine was persian,then greek and then roman. For a while the romans called it Judea because there were “jews”and then called it Palestine again. Jerusalem was Aelia Capitolana. Israel’s top archeologist Dr.Zeev-Herzog and colleagues fully agree that there never were any kingdoms of David and Solomon in Israel (google it!). In fact the biblical history and geography as presented in the west is a farce thru and thru but even progressive westerners can’t face it as it is like removing their “Santa Klaus”and identity, and facing the truth might lead them to bigger truths and identity crisis like the american “pilgrims”‘genocide “pilgrimage”and marano Columbus jew plunder-murder real story and the fraudulent “founding fathers” and ziocon american pie in wonderland never-never-land.. Anyway it is good to know and spread the truth. Download QueenofShebaandIsrael and Al_Hijaz_Homeland_of_Abraham as free Pdf books or go to http://Www.kamal-salibi.blogspot.com and http://www.altajdeed.blogspot.com
Apologies for the off content
Dear Dr. Nur,
I read the 48 page executive summary which the altajdeed link provided. I found it interesting however a mass deception on that level 2000+ years ago is just mind boggling to say the least. Historic Palestine is repleted with names of placed mentioned in the old testament, to make your hypothesis very improbably. That said I have always been mystified to understand the relation of Jerusalem and Mekka both of them possessing two mounts and a holy site with same names. Moriah – Hebrew Marwa – Arabic, Zion – Hebrew Safa – Arabic, and Beit Hamikdash (house of The Holy One) – Hebrew Beit Allah Arabic. I have always been fascinated by that fact that both Mekka and Jerusalem have this unexplainable mirror connection. Anyways I hope you can direct me to further readings on this subject.
You did not read thoroughly Everything is explained here and there. The cities are mirrors of older cities of Hijaz renamed by the colons like they did in America. OK?
Much respect Dr. Nur,
I think I took that site apart and I haven’t been able to satisfy my curiosity. I read somewhere that you lived or stayed in Abha. Can you provide a map of the original Hebron, Gaza, Nazareth, Bethlehem, Shechem, Shilo, Dan, & Bethel in and around Asir and Hijaz? I have read Thomas L. Thompson, he believes that there is a disconnect between the old testament and the regions history, and he believes that the old testament was made up to give authenticity to the Hasmonean kingdom. Because he believes that the history of the hebrews in Palestine begins close to that time. I have never believed that due to the fact that the OT is huge and so multidimensional if the rules of the Hasmonean kingdom wanted to make for themselves legitimacy by propagating a lie about how they were the original owners of the lands from time eternal I don’t think that the OT would be the right way to go because it is so time consuming and such a rich text to say the least. It would have been so much simpler to just compose a legend or two. I apologize to the board for going off topic.
You will find the maps you are looking for at http://www.queen-of-sheba-university.org : at the top you will see the maps of the assumed but inexistant jewish “kingdoms” of Palestine and at bottom you will see the real maps of Israel,Juddah and Sheba kingdoms
Dr. Nur
thank you for the references.
that’s very interesting Sheykh Nur … djazak Allah kheyren for this !
Shame that the picture dressed here is not coming until at least prophet Solomon, pbuh… and explained how the heretic started their zio-foolish prject by falsifiyng the bible and the torah etc…
You can go to the material indicated and you will get all the answers. If you need more answers ask me at http://www.altajdeed.blogspot.com or ask at http://www.kamal-salibi.blogspot.com . The fact that such names can be found in Palestine is the same as for the american colons to name such cities as Paris/Texas,Memphis/Tennessee,Syracuse/New-York,Philadelphia/Pennsylvania,etc. Where is the original one? All these palestinian cities including Hebron,Gaza,Nazareth,Bethlehem etc. are mirror images of older cities of Hijaz and Yemen.
In general, a good post, Dr. Nur. Except for a couple questionable parts, which raises doubts about the authenticity of others. To wit:
Nur =>”the fraudulent ‘founding fathers’ of America
My family arrived in this country in 1605 BEFORE the pilgrims (1605) but definitely after Columbus (1492). I am a direct descendent of the first surviving Virginia Colony.
I suspect Columbus was not jewish, that is Muslim heresay based on the Moors having their butts kicked out of Spain, etc. Personally, I could care less if Columbus was or wasn’t Jewish. It makes no difference in my life one way or another.
My great, great, great, …. grandfather (Thomas Jefferson) was the main writer of the U.S. Constitution. He and his close associates were NOT fraudulent. that is just a bunch more heresay crap, promulgated by an agenda setter. I thought you would be smarter than that.
Finally, yes, America was formed by destroying much of the American Indian tribal cultures. I’m not happy about it, but there is also nothing I can do about what happened 150-300 years ago. It is history. The trick is to move forward and treat all peoples and cultures with respect. Hate has temporary victories, but it never wins.
the best to you and keep writing.
T.V.
Dear,I replied somewhere here that yes Columbus was a marano jew (just google it) and that is very important. Also the true jewish founding father who financed the american revolution and prepared its first draft Haym Solomon was also a marano. If you grand father Jefferson was alive today he would no doubt tell you how much he owed to Solomon and his chosen-people. Yes the colonies borrowed from France but those loans were arranged and securitized by Solomon himself. You see the art of the jews is to use other peoples money or create it out of nothing and apply it to wars where one will collect huge profits. Solomon was still owed about 40 billions dollars at his death by U.S treasury.. How can an empty handed marano end up owning such vast sums,if not by jewish magic?..
Are you trying to say that Zionists are trying to collect on this past debt on behalf of a deceased wealthy Jew by way of the monies that are transfered to Zionist Jewish Israel just like Zionists have managed to collect Holocaust reparations from Germany that are transfered to Zionist Jewish organizations, survivors and Israel or are you trying to also say that the U.S. has always been controlled by Jewish money from the very beginning directly and indirectly with regards to the U.S. government, treasury, federal reserve, banks, etc.?
It now gets worse. If we read between the lines, it looks like, in an indirect way God gave all money to the Jews, same way Palestine has been given to them.
According to Nur, France makes a loan to the USA but the only person important to the transaction is the loan broker.
Odd, sort of jewish way of looking at it.
Mike
I doubt that forty billion was loaned to anyone in the late 18th century. That sort of wealth did not exist.
Mike
T.V.,
I’m with you. They have been trying to rewrite the history of the USA and I believe Dr. Nur may be part of that project. It it not an accident that you have to take exception to some of what he says.
I too know about my ancestors and even though I suspect some of them were probably of jewish roots that were essentially abandoned and though I agree with “Dr” Nur saying the jews were involved in almost everything significant happening, the Founders (most if not all) were aware of and offended by certain special interest’s instigating evil machinations, schemes and events in Europe, including the money changers.
This is a correct part of American history that certain interests want us to forget. Most Americans don’t have a clue about their ancestors, including their actions, beliefs and struggles. Endless wars, depressions and alcohol has helped everyone forget. TV and FoolyWood movies too helps Americans forget and ignore American history, including personal family history by loading everyone up with useless facts on useless subjects. It is “cool” and “awesome” and and successful lying has become something to admire.
One of the main themes promoted in this project is too establish that none of the Founding Fathers were Christians. Using semantics, they try to factually establish that the Founding Fathers were in no way Christian in the same way jewish interests now promote the idea that so-called “Christian Zionists” are in some way Christian. That is why I’m such an AntiSemantic! They know most people don’t even know their own family history much less history in general.
We need to be wary of the semanticists among us!
Though I’m not a Bush fan, I get a kick out of people demeaning the Bushes for hating the “REDMAN” when in fact George Bushe’s ancestor was Pochohantas. THEY make fools of us all!
Mike
I gather there is no point addressing brain-damaged mosquito-brains like you. Nothing will help except perhaps sending you back to school. When people like you start to talk “christianity”it does not mean “showing the other cheek” but “I just had a drink too many”… I wrote because some people were happy for me to share the real data which any higher creature can weigh for themselves if they want an education. This is not the place to solve your orogenital regression and attention/learning disorder. You can go to your regular jewish shrink or to your christ ian jewish-trained shrink. I quit on you and don’t address me again. I came here to share with the 0.001 or less of americans who have both “balls”AND a BRAIN and also non-americans. Jews are the enemies of mankind and you are playing the parasite. Quit drinking and your other drug and see . It is not you who can help here. Go to N.Y times or Rolling Stone . You don’t understand the favor I was making you and you would not know the difference between a jew and a grasshopper if you met either of them.
Dr Nur, Like Texas Vet, I know some of my personal family history. Seven of my ancestors risked everything to fight the American Revolution and I do not need a person like you to tell me they were not much.
Mike
It must be the jew in you that spews so many nasty insults and incorrect presumptions about me.
Mike
AND MIKE LOOK,LAST WORD: I AM HERE BECAUSE OF THE GREAT TALENT AND PERSONAL QUALITIES OF GORDON,+ MANY HIGH CALIBER INDIVIDUALS AT VT AND THIS IS HIS BLOG. IF ANY ONE SHOULD SUSPECT ANY ONE OR POLICE HIS BLOG HE CAN DO IT HIMSELF. YOU ARE A GUEST HERE AND YOU SHOULD BEHAVE OR ELSE GO POLICE YOUR OWN BLOG AND PRINT YOUR FAIRY TALES AND GENITAL DYSFUNCTIONS THERE. FIRST YOU PRAISED ME ON THE QUALITY OF MY COMMENTS, OTHER CHEERED ME AND ASKED FOR DETAILS,SO I GAVE IT MY BEST THINKING IT WILL BE USEFULL AND SOME ACKNOWLEDGED IT AND THANKED ME. DID ANY ONE ASK YOU ANYTHING LIKE ME? WHY? SO,IF YOU ARE IGNORANT, HIDE IT..OK?. BUT YOUR INTENTION WAS TO INSULT ME LIKE A PERVERT. THEN USING “CHRISTIANITY”AS ARGUMENT,WHAT DOES IT MEAN HERE? MEANING: “I HAD A DRINK TOO MANY”,RIGHT? You were sober this morning. Don’t drink and blog. I am an old man and won’t be patient with that.OK?! …
Dr Nur, calm down , you sound like my old friend, Fuad from Bethlehem when he started recalling him homeland Palestine . That I shared some of my internal thoughts and reservations was not meant to rudely dismiss, defame or discredit you. I merely shared my internal thoughts and concerns.
And thanks for your interesting information most of which I have no doubt is probably correct. One cocrn I always have is getting lost in the minutiae which our enemies would like us to do, and some of your discourse brought those thoughts to mind. If you had read all of my posts here you would have no doubt about what kind of person I am.
Peace be with you!
Mike.
AND MIKE LOOK,LAST WORD: I AM HERE BECAUSE OF THE GREAT TALENT AND PERSONAL QUALITIES OF GORDON,+ MANY HIGH CALIBER INDIVIDUALS AT VT AND THIS IS HIS BLOG. IF ANY ONE SHOULD SUSPECT ANY ONE OR POLICE HIS BLOG HE CAN DO IT HIMSELF. YOU ARE A GUEST HERE AND YOU SHOULD BEHAVE OR ELSE GO POLICE YOUR OWN BLOG AND PRINT YOUR FAIRY TALES AND OROGENITAL DYSFUNCTIONS THERE. FIRST YOU PRAISED ME ON THE QUALITY OF MY COMMENTS, OTHER CHEERED ME AND ASKED FOR DETAILS,SO I GAVE IT MY BEST THINKING IT WILL BE USEFULL AND SOME ACKNOWLEDGED IT AND THANKED ME. DID ANY ONE ASK YOU ANYTHING LIKE ME? WHY? SO,IF YOU ARE IGNORANT, HIDE IT..OK?. BUT YOUR INTENTION WAS TO INSULT ME LIKE A PERVERT. THEN USING “CHRISTIANITY”AS ARGUMENT,WHAT DOES IT MEAN HERE? MEANING: “I HAD A DRINK TOO MANY”,RIGHT? You were sober this morning. Don’t drink and blog. I am an old man and won’t be patient with that.OK?! …
I USE WHAT I LIKE AS IT IS MEANT FOR YOU ,AND MIKE, LOOK,LAST WORD: I AM HERE BECAUSE OF THE GREAT TALENT AND PERSONAL QUALITIES OF GORDON,+ MANY HIGH CALIBER INDIVIDUALS AT VT AND THIS IS HIS BLOG. IF ANY ONE SHOULD SUSPECT ANY ONE OR POLICE HIS BLOG HE CAN DO IT HIMSELF. YOU ARE A GUEST HERE AND YOU SHOULD BEHAVEAND RESPECT OTHERS OK? I DID INSULT OR EVEN MIND YOU.RIGHT? OR ELSE GO POLICE YOUR OWN BLOG AND PRINT YOUR FAIRY TALES AND OROGENITAL DYSFUNCTIONS THERE. FIRST YOU PRAISED ME ON THE QUALITY OF MY COMMENTS, OTHER CHEERED ME AND ASKED FOR DETAILS,SO I GAVE IT MY BEST THINKING IT WILL BE USEFULL AND SOME ACKNOWLEDGED IT AND THANKED ME. DID ANY ONE ASK YOU ANYTHING LIKE ME? WHY? SO,IF YOU ARE IGNORANT, HIDE IT..OK?. BUT YOUR INTENTION WAS TO INSULT ME LIKE A PERVERT. THEN USING “CHRISTIANITY”AS ARGUMENT,WHAT DOES IT MEAN HERE? MEANING: “I HAD A DRINK TOO MANY”,RIGHT? You were sober this morning. Don’t drink and blog. I am an old man and won’t be patient with that.OK?! …
MR.VOLTZ:I USE CAPS OR WHAT I LIKE AS IT IS MEANT FOR YOU. LOOK,LAST WORD: I AM HERE BECAUSE OF THE GREAT TALENT AND PERSONAL QUALITIES OF GORDON,+ MANY HIGH CALIBER INDIVIDUALS AT VT AND THIS IS HIS BLOG. IF ANY ONE SHOULD SUSPECT ANY ONE OR POLICE HIS BLOG HE CAN DO IT HIMSELF. YOU ARE A GUEST HERE AND YOU SHOULD BEHAVEAND RESPECT OTHERS OK? I DID INSULT OR EVEN MIND YOU.RIGHT? OR ELSE GO POLICE YOUR OWN BLOG AND PRINT YOUR FAIRY TALES AND OROGENITAL DYSFUNCTIONS THERE. FIRST YOU PRAISED ME ON THE QUALITY OF MY COMMENTS, OTHER CHEERED ME AND ASKED FOR DETAILS,SO I GAVE IT MY BEST THINKING IT WILL BE USEFULL AND SOME ACKNOWLEDGED IT AND THANKED ME. DID ANY ONE ASK YOU ANYTHING LIKE ME? WHY? SO,IF YOU ARE IGNORANT, HIDE IT..OK?. BUT YOUR INTENTION WAS TO INSULT ME LIKE A PERVERT. THEN USING “CHRISTIANITY”AS ARGUMENT,WHAT DOES IT MEAN HERE? MEANING: “I HAD A DRINK TOO MANY”,RIGHT? You were sober this morning. Don’t drink and blog. I am an old man and won’t be patient with that.OK?! …
I don’t drink, do you? I don’t mind your caps. I am not anal retentive and didn’t need a jewish psychiatrist to figure that out. I do not use them or gentile ones for that matter. I do not want to be crazy.
Mike
I just looked on the net:the ancestor name was exactly Poco+hontas which is a spanish name not a native indian name meaning he was no indian “spring chicken” meaning he had been cavorting with the spaniards before running away to the yankees for some treason in exchange for protection perhaps. It must be, as useless indians were shot like rabbits for your proud ancestors’ “lebensraum”(living confort). Poco=little and Hontas=Shame, “Little-shame”was his name,just like his monkey-faced and devilled-eared moron grandson of “No-shame-at-all”. The name tells a whole family story. Thanks.
I just looked on the net:the ancestor name was exactly Poco+hontas which is a spanish name not a native indian name meaning he was no indian “spring chicken” meaning he had been cavorting with the spaniards before running away to the yankees for some treason in exchange for protection perhaps. It must be, as useless indians were shot like rabbits for your proud ancestors’ “lebensraum”(living confort). Poco=little and Hontas=Shame, “Little-shame”was his name,just like his monkey-faced and devilled-eared moron grandson of “No-shame-at-all”. The name tells a whole family story. Thanks.I don’t drink. PEACE..
I just looked on the net:the george Bush ancestor name was exactly Poco+hontas which is a spanish name not a native indian name meaning he was no indian “spring chicken” meaning he had been cavorting with the spaniards before running away to the yankees for some treason in exchange for protection perhaps. It must be, as useless indians were shot like rabbits for your proud ancestors’ “lebensraum”(living confort). Poco=little and Hontas=Shame, “Little-shame”was his name,just like his monkey-faced and devilled-eared moron grandson of “No-shame-at-all”. The name tells a whole family story. Thanks.I don’t drink. PEACE..
Sorry if there is extra post. Please clear them as when i send it does not say and asks to post comment. I just looked on the net:the george Bush ancestor name was exactly Poco+hontas which is a spanish name not a native indian name meaning he was no indian “spring chicken” meaning he had been cavorting with the spaniards before running away to the yankees for some treason in exchange for protection perhaps. It must be, as useless indians were shot like rabbits for your proud ancestors’ “lebensraum”(living confort). Poco=little and Hontas=Shame, “Little-shame”was his name,just like his monkey-faced and devilled-eared moron grandson of “No-shame-at-all”. The name tells a whole family story. Thanks.I don’t drink. PEACE..
Gordon, I learned to read and write Arabic at the University of Copenhagen and there, sharing the same course, I became good friend with a guy, Jørgen Bæk Simonsen, who at that time was a graduate in History. Now he is a professor the Institute of “Cross-Cultural and regional Studies” at the same University. He gave me a copy of a booklet,he had written at that time titled: “The Diaries of IBN FALDAN Travel to RUSLAND”. It is the only written and oldest description (in Arabic) of how the Vikings buried their Chieftains. The encounter of Ibn Faldan with the Viking party occurred north of the Caspian sea by the River Volga, where he witnessed the burial ceremony. Ibn Faldan was an Arab Geographer-Historian and Diplomat and he lived in the 10th Century AC.
He was traveling in the region of what used to be KHAZARIA, home of the Suomi-Turks who converted to Judaism and who have NOTHING to do with the Semites. The Khazar Jews constitute today 90% of the Jewish population in the world. They are the ones who emigrated to Palestine from EUROPE in the beginning of the 20th Century and heavily after WW II in the EXODUS organized by the Zionist Movement, sponsored by Rothschild, we all know about, enforced with ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians by the Jewish Terrorists organizations: IRGUN. STERN GANG-LEHI (of which Rahm Emanuel’s father was an active member), HAGANA, JABOTINSKI’s TSVAI LEUMI, etc.
The looting of the Iraqi Museums by the Israeli embedded in the US-GB invasion forces had one priority: “To make disappear any evidence that may contradict the Zion Talmudic Rationale and Myths regarding their origin and claims to Palestine” and of course to disculturalize the Iraqi people, taking away from it the very rich cultural inheritance, that goes back to the golden age of Islam.
Sure, Helen Thomas knows about the real HISTORY.
Eaters of the Dead….I have read the Creighton version anyway…long ago.
g
Ken , ? Are you saying “the jews” are racists???
Mike
(sorry Gordon, I keep trying not to use the word jew, like everyone else in America today, because of special “sensitivities”; I hope i haven’t insulted anyone again, it just keeps coming to mind——other people keep saying it??
Perhaps I don’t know how to use it properly?).
mv
Yeah, I believe the group in control of Judaism is Khazar(Russian)Jews.
Rothschild’s took control of the world in the 1800′s. It’s a mafia…An Ashkenazim mafia. They control Hollywood and the media, that was their first power grab. This happened in the 20′s and it’s an established fact that Ashkenazi Jews run Hollywood and the MSM. What else do they control? Well, they print the money via the Federal Reserve. Everything else is related to the money printing. They are self made Masters of the Universe.
Dr. N, I find your posts very informative. Thanks for taking the time to write in lower case so that I can read them! I can’t imagine typing anything as long as some of your posts using a phone! Please keep sending opinions from your corner of the world.
Dear friend, that is what is I mean because people prefer the myths to the reality,americans,just like today’s khazar jews who were descended directly from the turkish raiders of Attila the Hun and whose main wealth and power came from the slave trade of the slavic peoples of Russia etc to the romans,persians.arabs.. In fact, it is to the khazar slave trade that we owe the word ‘slave’from slavic (tribes). You ‘suspect’ only that Columbus was not a jew, and then you say you do not care whether he was or not. No,no it is very important. Google it,put: Columbus+jew+marano. You will see that even jewish websites say he was a recent marano (that is recent crypto or converted jew to christianity, but who practised judaism in hiding to avoid the inquisition). Columbus set sail with jewish money the very month Isabel banned the jews from Spain. One can say that all West and East indies plunder-murder ‘companies’ were funded by them and they constituted the backbone of new world land owning aristocracies who incited the Bolivarian and Washingtonian revolutions just so as to avoid taxes to the ‘motherland’ and take control of their money supplies from Amsterdam and London and now Tel Aviv. ‘Suspicion’ is not a substitute for education. Washington was known as a double faced murderer, Lincoln as a staunch ‘supporter’ of slavery (why?if ‘we believe all men are created equal’..) and Jefferson was confused on more than one point of economic policy esp. currency. But ,like i said, fully exposing the fanciful bible and chosen-Israel myths would mean reappraising the true foundations of american history. It is hard to take a good look in the mirror. It will take time. Don’t rush.
Not only were Jews making immense profits off the slave trade, they made up most of the thieves we now call ‘pirates.’
Many of the pirates of the Caribbean were Sephardic Jews who turned to piracy to get revenge on the Spanish Catholics who expelled them from Spain in 1492.
http://www.bnaiabraham.net/WhatsNew/Jean%20Lafitte.htm
Greg,?
I’ll bet Abe Fuxman would say you are awakening (and perpetuating)age old myths and canards (a bird?) about the “jews”. Sorry for using that word again Gordon.
Mike
Dr Nur, I am beginning to believe you are a jew masquerading as a probable A-rab or antisemite (whatever that is). You obviously are very knowledgeable on history but it is beginning to seem to have a very kosher twist to it. I’m not sure you are completely candid.
Mike
I don’t understand what you mean by this but I am a thirty years convert to Islam like Mohamad Asad,half “jewish”half christian”,french by birth and schooled in New-York with many of those jews running America today. I am presently in Mekkah, a place which no pig or jew can enter. So what is “kosher”about me? I am not a jew and I hate them for what they do. Or do you mean kosher as “halal”/good?. I have proved to you in these comments,with back up data that the whole of so called “jewish right”to Palestine is a fraud as much America’s founding myths are a fraud. Did you know before that a jew named HAYM SOLOMON is “alleged” to have drafted the first,therefore the original idea/draft of the USA Constitution,and its coat of arms/seal with a star of David and that HE ARRANGED TO PAY FOR THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION,the most important thing of all and why?… If that does not make him a “founding father” that perhaps will make him the “mother”but still to me the others are patsies like Obama is the patsy of his jewish handlers like Rahm Emanuel etc., thru Netanyahu/Peres orders in Tel Aviv.Or they will blackmail him about shooting his former gay boyfriend at “Man’s country”gay club or for keeping Reggie Love as new one in Whitehouse to crack cocaine and for sex or they will shoot him too like so many out of control presidents.Right?. Don’t you know every USA GOV. has always had a shadow jew dictating policy?
Dr Nur, I never said I disagree much with most of what you have said. You are obviously extremely well informed. Something just strikes me a little curious about exactly where you are coming from, as I said.
Thanks for sharing the personal info!
Peace be with you,
Mike,the antisemantic
If I am well informed it is because I study and I am concerned about the fate of mankind. It should be to my honor not a reason for suspicion. It is like serious educated people are in such short supply there,i know,that you have to suspect them to be jews. As if only jews were clever. No,they are not clever. They are demented like Frankenstein: they appear clever but it is only perversions and illusions. What i wrote today no jew will or can write it because it is the result of my personal research on the ground in Arabia together with my friends here. If you had gone to the websites indicated you will know no jew can write that. So this is Gordon’s blog and you are a guest like me and you should respect other guests and let Gordon have and express his suspicions if so be it. Right?
Dr Nur, Your apparent density and stubborness amaze me when contrasted to your high level of knowledge.
You and I are about 99% “on the same page” as to every thing you have said, but you don’t seem to see it.
Regarding the great strengths of the jews, rather than intelligence, I believe their greatest success is their willingness to abandon any morality with respect to the gentiles and their ability to evoke tribal loyalties and collaboration.
Conversations on this site amounts to an all out war for many of the participants so to have someone wonder aloud about the possibility of you promoting a hidden agenda, it is hardly some ugly antisocial assault.
Your outrageous tirade and name calling against me was unwarranted and inconsistent with the expected demeanor of the highly educated, and civilized scholar, the persona have originally presented here.
Mike
Dr ,
I think your knowledge and perspective on George Washington may be a little incorrect, weak and skewed.
Ho Chi Minh and I share(d)George Washington as one of our heroes. I still say you knowledge of and especially appreciation of George Washington is is not in agreement with mine. I do not believe you are an expert on the life of G.W. so you might be a little more careful on your blanket statements about him if you intend being fair and correct on that subject.
Mike
I am not depreciating your George Washington but you are missing the entire point. Maybe I will explain later. If you read my posts in order of time you will get it.
Denigrating tradition American heroes including the Founding Fathers is a favorite current sport of the DEFAMATION LEAGUE, in case you do not realize that. Jewish financing, actually from the French royals or not G.W. was a very gret man in my opinion. I have never worried about getting a “Dr” in front of my name or a “PHD” after because that is not necessary to obtain actual knowledge which is more important to me. I am not impressed by your title. Henry Ford another of my heroes never went to a goddamned university and he is the greatest economist in American history and was NOT financed by jews.
Mike
Dr Nur, we agree on my cousin Obama. Sherman Skolnick, a jewish muckmaker from Chicago said long ago, before he died , Rahm Emanuel was/is mossad’s top agent in North America, which is certainly consistent with his family background elucidated by Chris Bollyn.
Obama is israel’s first Manchurian Candidate/ now President. The others outlined by Ben Freidman and others were mere puppets, pawns, and dupes.
Obama is fully owned and operated by israel. You description doesn’t go far enough to describe that matter.
Mike
The most important man of the american revolution was probaly its financer: Haim (Chaim) Solomon,a jew. No money no honey…
The warrior George Washington and his ragtag troops were of no significant effect? That reminds on someone here saying “he smelled bagels”.
Mike
So who has the power: the patsy or his handler. To be a “warrior”to the jews: it is who pays them and sends them to war and who makes the money out of it. The “Alice in Wonderland Story”is for the goyim and their history books. Like Kissinger said recently:”soldiers are like stupid animals to be sent to die without questions”,or like Napoleon said: “it is with toys (like medals) (and stories) that one runs armies and men”.. that one sends to their deaths.
Dr Nur, I agree with you with respect to the Iraq war and possibly many other wars.
In the case of George Washington according to every source I have ever read, he was in fact too poorly financed.
Mike
Still what Solomon got him was enough to win a revolution. Right? Do you think Washington could win it alone with a bayonet? Do you think Haym Solomon did for it for Washington’s blue eyes? For nothing? With no secret agreements? My point is that the seed of jewish control as it is now was planted there at the beginning and earlier even the minute Columbus set foot in America. South and North America and “Indies Companies” were jewish capital ventures and all others are expendable patsies like 9/11 and as per Talmud. You see.
Dr.,
No, stamina, bravery, intelligence, just cause and determination won The American Revolution!
I still suspect you of being a shill because you imply all successful political or military actions are totally dependent on money and “the jews” and I do not believe that. Jews like to propagate that myth to discourage the goyim in the first place not to take any action.
I am highly skeptical of just where you are coming from, Dr Nur, you seem to be slyly promoting some favorite jewish themes.
Please note I am not insulting you or calling you names, as you have me in your outrageous tirade just for taking exception with or being suspicious of your true agenda.
I still respect you high level of knowledge but have seen nothing from you to indicate you are either an expert on George Washington or the American Revolution.
Mike
Dr,
“I have proved to you in these comments,with back up data that the whole of so called “jewish right”to Palestine is a fraud as much America’s founding myths are a fraud.”
You have not “proved” to me that America’s founding myths “are a fraud” as far as I’m concerned, not even close; you just think you have.
You seem to be oblivious to the response of Texas Vet to your comments. You seem to have an obtuseness to another point of view and the possible knowledge set outside your mental experience realm.
Yes, I believe I may have heard of HAYM SOLOMON, long ago and considered that quite interesting but don’t see his personal involvement a keystone for the success of the American Revolution nor a keystone for understanding it.
Sorry Dr Nur, but I do not see you as an expert on the American
Revolution or George Washington; and your inability to acknowledge the possible existence of other valid “factual sets” or analytical
conclusions, causes me to have a lower opinion of your ostensible status as a unbiased scholar.
Mike
So, when you are talking about Antisemitism
Awhile back, a writer for the ADL–ANOTHER DAMN LIE–put out a column saying that in order to more skillfully blend what we’re trying to do into the GOYIM’s minds, we should not use the hyphenated ‘anti-Semitic,’ but combine that term into one word, ‘antisemitic.’
BTW, the “Khazar’s’ were phallic worshipers, in other words, they idolized the ‘schlong.’
“FACTS ARE FACTS” By: Benjamin H. Freedman
Upon the conclusion of my talk a very alert Lieutenant Colonel present at the meeting informed me that he was the head of the history department of one of the largest and highest scholastic rated institutions of higher education in the United States. He had taught history there for 16 years. He had recently been called back to Washington for further military service. To my astonishment he informed me that he had never in all his career as a history teachers or otherwise heard the word “khazar” before he heard me mention it there. That must give you some idea, my dear Dr. Goldstein, of how successful that mysterious secret power was with their plot to “block out” the origin and the history of the Khazars and Khazar Kingdom in order to conceal from the world and particularly Christians the true origin and the history of the so-called or self- styled “Jews” in eastern Europe.
The Khazars were not “Semites”. They were an Asiatic Mongoloid nation. They are classified by modern anthropologists as Turco-Finns racially. From time immemorial the homeland of the Khazars was in the heart of Asia. They were a very warlike nation. The Khazars were driven out of Asia finally by the nations in Asia with whom they were continually at war. The Khazars invaded eastern Europe to escape further defeats in Asia. The very warlike Khazars did not find it difficult to subdue and conquer the 25 peaceful agricultural nations occupying approximately 1,000,000 square miles in eastern Europe. In a comparatively short period the Khazars established the largest and most powerful kingdom in Europe, and probably the wealthiest also.
The Khazars were a pagan nation when they invaded eastern Europe. Their religious worship was a mixture of phallic worship and other forms of idolatrous worship practiced in Asia by pagan nations. This form of worship continued until the 7th century. The vile forms of sexual excess indulged in by the Khazars as their form of religious worship produced a degree of moral degeneracy…
http://www.iahushua.com/JQ/factsR3.html
Whether you are related to “founding father” or not has no relevance to a topic. One should keep a distance. Look briefly: french revolution: slogan:”Liberty,Equality,Fraternity”and “declaration of Human Rights”= a jewish farce ,destitution of aristocracy,church and people bloodbath for the taking over by jewish bankers and bourgeoisie,Karl Marx’s manifesto:”workers of the world unite!”= a murderous jewish apparatchik dictature.. American revolution: “All men are created equal..” the beginning of the greatest murderous land robbery and genocides of all times of the highly sociable american indians. (Agreggate murder of around 200 millions over 400 years). Maintenance of highly profitable slavery (of the 60millions slaves abducted from Africa,one third died at sea before arriving. I.e 20 millions were thrown to sharks..). Now whatever is your “American Constitution”,it is clear that it was never applied nor worth the paper it was written on and that whoever wrote it had for basic intention the further filling of their already full pockets thru one of the following 1.genocide land grab, 2.free value-added slave labor produced tobacco,cotton,sugar,and grain for alcohol,whiskey etc 3. The benefit and revenue of the political racket for the “elected” (in america it was always a tainted,violence,money related insider activity as today). Conclusion: don’t judge founding “fathers”by what they said but by what they did= another jewish financed farce and fraud (for the “founding” father “handymen”). Stop dreaming: there was never any democracy at all… As a doctor, i believe the first step to a cure is first a correct diagnosis and then we can search the available treatment..
Dr Nur, I totally agree with you in your “back to the ROOTS approach” when it comes to analyzing historical facts and ongoing events.
Until the savage campaign of Zionlandia (Israel) against Lebanon in June 2006, I was of the belief that the Jews were innocent victims of worldwide segregation-persecution, fighting for survival.
In school, they thought me all the myths, which now I NOW (in the same way prof Ilan Pappe, Shlomo Sand, Norman Finkelstein, and many others Jewish academics now acknowledge publicly), know are constructed myths and direct lies intended to fool the general public and lull it into sleep, while the Zion Talmudic Mafia Dons, by deceit amasses wealth, tighten their stranglehold over Governments and gain more and more control over us, the Goyim.
My awakening was the simultaneous inhuman war against Gaza and Lebanon, which awoke me from my slumber. I started then to study full time the conflict between the Palestinians and the Israeli, consulting material from both sides and independent material from 3rd parties and passing it under a microscope.
The more I learned, the more I got angry with myself for having been IGNORANT so long and not being aware of how I have been taken for a FOOL and given chickenfeed, how our western society has been built and organized upon lies and tremendous injustices and how a handful of shrewd with devious minds managed to create the most successful MAFIA that is controlling our finances, monetary policy, lives and casting the world in infinite wars, while getting filthy rich and enslaving the people of every nation they happen to come in contract with.
The needed changes go through telling the TRUTH about how we have been manipulated to believe in hoaxes and myths and by whom. Secondly make the necessary structural changes that will eventually lead us to peaceful and human times.
I know exactly what you mean. Many years ago, in a small town in Scotland, my homeland, I was walking with my little daughter, it was just before Christmas and a young man asked if I would give money for Palestine and to my eternal shame, I looked at that young person with suspicion. In my defence, my action was due to ignorance, not intolerance..
probably dufftown or macduff or banff…
no, it was Duff- sorry- Dum-fries..
Hahaha, Gordon, you have Scottish ancestry in the family tree!!! Shame that that part of GB failed to free itself from English rule.
Wow! Ken!!!!!!!!!! Have you stolen David Duke’s term “MY AWAKENING”???
Why is everyone using that term so much?
I guess Abe Fuxman won’t be inviting you over any time soon for Snicker’s Bars, blintzes, lox and coffee???
Mike
If he does ever invite you over, be very careful!
mv
Dr.Nur,
WE APPRECIATE Dr.Nur!!,
and a lot of the others and you know who you are !
Dr Nur,
So that’s why so many people like George Bush. It is his minority ancestor Pochontas who makes him so lovable?
I’m beginning to wonder where you are really coming from? Do you have online access to the DEFAMATION LEAGUE Dirt File Archives?
Mike
Michael J Volz says:
December 26, 2010 at 10:56 am
“Paul? Are you a zionist or an American sheeple? Just curious about your background.”
Mike
Mike how do you even come up with such a stupid question as this??????
Mike
You think way to highly of yourself. I”am sure you are the type that loves to hear himself talk……
Thank You, Paul for the complement. As far as I am able to understand I am a garden variety schmuck who is interested in the truth and not playing any games.
That is why my “moniker” here is actually my real name, unlike you who for some reason chooses to be anonymous. So according to Gordon, “I’m cool” (though maybe not “awesome”). According to you I’m an idiot. If you are are right, I’m a cool idiot but a sincere upfront one with no hidden agenda.
Not everyone likes me. Larry Dickerstine’s South African “friend” said I’m “pure malice” and a “brown shirt” (nazi). I will take that as a compliment from Larry since no serious person on this site takes Larry Dickerstine seriously! I may be an idiot but I smelled that rat a mile away.
Mike
OK I just want to add this significant piece of information as I just looked up Haym Solomon who saved and financed bankrupt G.Washington and revolution. It says Solomon is., alleged to have written the first draft of the american constitution…,and that he designed the Great Seal of the U.S with a star of David on top of Eagle’s head. Although they say it is “alleged”only there in Wikipedia,it seems to fit that America was in “good hands”from its very conception and so was Jefferson who only had to be coached by an “expert” hand.
Great Seal of the U.S with a star of David on top of Eagle’s head. Although they say it is “alleged”only there in Wikipedia
There’s your mistake, trusting ‘ZIOPEDIA’ for the truth.
It’s handy and easy to access, but they selectively ‘cherry-pick’ the truth as THEY see it, not as it happened.
The Colonies also borrowed money from France, so it wasn’t just Solomon lending them the money they needed to kick out the Rothschilds.
I replied above Dear, the loans from France were personally negotiated and arranged by Haym Solomon, who can legitimatly be called the “true”founding father of the American proto-zionist-milk-cow-hegemonic-state to usher in the birth of the doomsday zionist nightmare entity.
I replied above Dear, the loans from France were personally negotiated and arranged by Haym Solomon, who can legitimatly be called the “true”founding father of the American proto-zionist-milk-cow-hegemonic-state to usher in the birth of the doomsday zionist nightmare entity in Middle-East..
I replied above Dear, the loans from France were personally negotiated and arranged by Haym Solomon,who knew Hans Meyer Rothschild and who can legitimatly be called the “true”founding father of the American proto-zionist-milk-cow-hegemonic-state to usher in the birth of the doomsday zionist nightmare entity in Middle-East..
Dr Nur, I think Abe Fuxman of the DEFAMATION LEAGUE would say you are awakening and perpetuating age old myths about the “jews”????
Mike
I certainly hope you are not Antisemantic?
Mike
So does that mean George Washington really was Christian as everyone always thought (and knew)?
Mike
By the way Solomon was also a porturguese marano jew whose parents took refuge in Poland and on to America.OK I just want to add this significant piece of information as I just looked up Haym Solomon who saved and financed bankrupt G.Washington and revolution. It says Solomon is., alleged to have written the first draft of the american constitution…,and that he designed the Great Seal of the U.S with a star of David on top of Eagle’s head. Although they say it is “alleged”only there in Wikipedia,it seems to fit that America was in “good hands”from its very conception and so was Jefferson who only had to be coached by an “expert” hand.
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fixtheticket:
I definitely like your style……..
Fix, Good to see you! Where have you been? Merry Christmas or Happy HaNookie, whicever you prefer.
Mike
First lesson for you, mr. duff: To be anti anything is not necessarily to “hate”.
As you write:
So, when you are talking about Antisemitism, you are talking about people who hate folks from that region, a racial mix of fully African to generally Middle Eastern.
To be pro or anti is simply an expression of discernment, judgement and/or personal preference, not hate. You are anti-German [of course, you will deny it]. yet you like to preach to others about hate.
You also want to deny all people the right to freedom of association because it is so often Jews like you who are excluded. But that is my, your and everyone’s right under “freedom,” is it not?
Is Gordon Duff a Jew? I thought he was Scottish.. In Scotland, we put things simply, by saying, for example: we are all Jock Thompson`s bairns, meaning: we are all siblings with one father..
Maybe we should create a new race, one race, the human race, with human values to which everyone should adhere, or risk expulsion..
When I was a teenager I used to dream about the day, when the history book used in every school of Planet Earth will be the “History of the evolution of mankind from Rama Pithecus to our times”. No religious indoctrination of any kind, the truth about colonization, slavery, subordination of all nations through unfair trade-monetary-financial policies, no myths, no hoaxes, only facts, no rationales based on the desire to escape responsibility.
It’s still my dream, made difficult to achieve now because the Zion Talmudic Mafia Dons have an agenda that goes against the integrity and well being of mankind, except the “Chosen Ones”.
As Dr Nur says: Only by proceeding with a diagnostic of what is wrong, will we able to correct the course of our destiny and put the foundations for a peaceful and better world for the generation to come. It’s our duty and the Money Lenders, hoaxers, manipulators and warmongers stay in our way.
Carroll Quigley should be your hero and his book “Tragedy and Hope” should be your favorite book. One story I read suggested that Quigley had to sneak his statement about European bankers, most of them jewish controlling the world outside the the ostensible myth of the USA democracy.
Quigley is the best mainstream, irrefutable source on the existence of conspiracies, making such governments as the USA, a myth and moot issue in reality, for the conspirators (and secondarily- everyone else).
Few people/sheeple want to examine the fact that Quigley’s book proves that jews control the world, making “democratic governments” an myth and illusion.
Mike
Duff is a Scottish Jew, apparently. He apparently has at least one half a brain because his mother was jewish, to my best limited understanding. I hope that Gordon doesn’t take offense to my comments. I know Abe Fuxman thinks I should refrain from such liberal use of the sacred word “jew” because of “sensitivities” of various sorts; which I am not fully able to comprehend perhaps because I may be what some people would call 1/16th jew.
My uncle by marriage was raised orthodox Jew but said on a regular basis he “believed in Jesus Christ” long before he died. My sister insists he was still Jewish but the chief rabi in Israel would surely agree with me not her.
In other words, WTF is a jew??????????????
Mike
Mike
Wait a minute, Since Duff’s mother was Jewish, I guess he has 100% of a brain.
Sorry Duff,
Sincerely,
What would I know with only 1/16th a brain . Would one my finger nails be worth a whole Gentile do you think? I’ll admit I’m a little confused.
Larry Dickerstine???
Mike
So what do you think about AntiSemantics like me who hate double talk and duplicity??? Larry Dickerstine’s “friend” in South Africa of all places says I’m “pure malice” and a “brown shirt” (nazi). That sems really bad!?
Mike
Michael
If you go over my Helen Thomas article, I think there is much that can be discussed from that. What has caused an uproar is the ADL piece. They are squealing like pigs. Like they think half the people in the ADL don’t hate Abe Foxman and his lifestyle. Not every Jew thinks running Nazi websites and attacking synagogues is funny. Some joined the ADL because of the real history of Antisemitism the US has, not to stage a phony terror war on American Jews…for profit.
g
I know Gordon. But I can’t feel sorry for them because they couldn’t get in the right country club or neighborhood. Sorry Gordon, I’m not that sensitive to others. My character defect.
I believe the USA is the real PROMISED LAND.
MIKE
After a few bumps in the road, they have taken over Harvard. Please forgive me Gordon for being so empty of compassion.
Mike
I do appreciate Jewish culture though! I like the “Fiddler on the Roof”, love good bagels, if I can find them; and even gifilte fish, but I hope they don’t make me into soap and a lampshade. I’m sure they are “smart” enough to use every bit of me except my cries for help into something useful!
Apparently, I’m not as high class as you Gordon.
Mike
SICK OF SEMANTICS AND JEWISH SUPREMACY, SORRY GORDON. THEY CAN USE ME FOR COVER WHEN (AND IF) THEY ASSAULT THE ADL OR AIPAC HQ, THOUGH.
MIKE
Are they antisemitic for hating Abe or Antsemantic, like me?
THEY can throw that fat turd out any time!
Mike
freedom for all , you have a point there as far as I’m concerned, Duff is more typically Jewish than he may realizes. He told us his mother was jewish but as far as I know , he has never told us if he is in fact Jewish himself.
Under the circumstances one would believe he is not jewish.
His general outlook seems to be consistent, kosher American Jewish Liberal.
Mike
The non-Semitic Khazar peoples have made a lot of political hay out of the term “anti-Semitic” even though it appropriately describes them and their actions. They have used it as a tool, in the main, to control thought and discourse. Not so much because the enlightened need fear reproach from other educated individuals or even from these Khazarian scoundrels themselves. But rather, I suspect,the term “anti-Semitic” is powerful because it induces cringing from the unenlightened and disinterested masses, because we deal with them on a daily basis, and because many of them are our friends and neighbors.
In saying this, I do not discount the vengeful and slanderous tactics of groups like the ADL. The real trick, however, lies not just in dumbing down the majority of people, but in keeping them in fear.
Call it a drop in the bucket, but I like to point out to these people (and everyone else for that matter) that anti-Arab and anti-Palestinian remarks are anti-Semitic.
I also like to point out to a lot of my Jewish friends when they broach the subject, that non-Jews died in the concentration camps of WWII and that “holocaust,” i.e. a conflagration, should be applied to all tragic loss of life sans the selective application to Jewish suffering.
In these discussions, which can become quite spirited, I ask them point blank—and quite earnestly— whether they are somehow implying that jewish suffering is worse than that of other peoples and, if so, are they also implying that Jews are inherently superior to other groups. Of course, they cannot say so —at least in the guise of a civil argument—so they walk off in a huff and I, alas, am one less friend short in this world. This is a price I am willing to pay.
Drew
There are Khazar Jews in the CIA (current and “retired”) These are people who work very closely with Israel.
g
Thank you, Gordon
Yes, I am sure what you say is true.
I read Michael Collins Piper’s “Final Judgement” and am convinced the CIA colluded with Israel to murder JFK (just as they engineered 911). I believe Mordecai Vanunu confirmed this when he spoke out against Israel’s nuclear arsenal.
Zionists use terms like “conspiracy theorist” in a derisive manner when they themselves support theories embracing violations of classical physics. Again, they rely on the ignorance of the masses to accomplish this.
Through education of just one person at a time, and through the multiplier effect, I am hopeful that word will get out and critical mass will be achieved. There must be enough politicos, military personnel, and people-in-the-know who are waiting for the right time to tell the Khazar bankers and their cronies where they can go.
Keep up the great work and best wishes!
Drew
Ditto.. critical mass is growing, as you say, one persin at a time..
that should read person..
Drew, well said. I believe the USA is suffering a mass psychosis because everyone is under an implied threat that speaking any truth in regard to anything jewish is a definite “no no”!
I personally believe there is a large body of sheeple who actually play along with the myth of jewish saintliness when they fully realize the jewish duplicity of 911, manipulation of the USA political systems and who the real probable players of 911 are, but who will under no circumstances publicly acknowledge that, even to their own families, under the jewish gag trick, enforced by the fear of the bogus “antisemitism” charge.
Seems harmless enough, like the children of a bank robber who keep their mouths shut even though they saw the video of their dad robbing the bank on TV. This large group only needs to overcome their fear of the antisemitism charge, as they know or suspect the basic truth. VT serves the purpose of helping these people get over the fear of acknowledging the truth. I don’t think these people realize the personal psychological damage they do to themselves and family, or their complicity in an actual crime by acquiescing in and abetting the mass lie.
As you say, the rest of the truly clueless sheeple can be awakened one at a time. People ask, what can I do? Spreading the truth “bit by bit” is the best and effective treatment for the mass psychosis, previously induced “bit by bit” through the mass media.
Something can be done by the individual which is very effective and important. The jews who run the mass media understand this. They didn’t brain wash America in one sitting!
Mike
Yes Gordon, I’m sure that is true!! (ditto to Drew). These are the people who hijacked the CIA at some earlier time (at the beginning?). What year did the CIA become a total Mossad subsidiary?
How many CIA personnel sincerely believe they are actually working for the best interests of the USA?
No doubt many of these Jewish CIA personnel believe it is in the best interests of the USA to formally become a colony of Israel and the CIA formally become a subsidiary of Mossad.
I guess it is a little hard for CIA personnel to act in the best interests of the USA since mossad has successfully installed their Manchurian Candidate/President Obama isn’t it?
Mike
The worst part of this trick is when Americans curse their own country because the CIA does the ugly bidding of the TRIBE, whether based in Israel, the UK, or the USA!!!!!! The USA, itself is the ultimate scapegoat and dupe, of the jews—-yes Gordon, the jews. Read Israel Shamir’s explanation of “tinok shenishba” to understand that complicity in Tribal crimes is one hundred percent optional for any jew. Shamir opted out of complicity by becoming Christian if I’m not mistaken just as Vanunu did.
If being jewish means being complicit in Tribal crimes, no one has to be an accomplice, if I understand Shamir correctly. And Gordon, I hope you will not tell me what Shamir’s “friends” are saying about him like you did with Ralph Nader. That dirt is probably from the DEFAMATION LEAGUE Dirt Archives.
Mike
PS, “That dirt is probably from the DEFAMATION LEAGUE Dirt Archives”.
In other words, it might not be “non-fiction”, contrary to what Larry Dickerstine and JohnG have been asserting.
Mike
Well this is a great question. Maybe Gordon could ask his friends and tell us in an article: when did (and how) Mossad take control the CIA and…Mi6? How it seems this agreggate remain separate from the political wings?,(or do they form a separate “Diktat”running the total political comedy show out of Shimon Peres and Ehud Barak-the godfathers of 9/11 according to Bollyn and others.). And what is the dynamics of their cocaine+heroin monopolies and who get what.
Excellent comment Dr Nur, Thanks for expanding and acknowledging my question.
Mike
I don’t think we are going to get an answer!
Mike
Does not fit in with the narrative currently being promoted here.
Mike
I think we should create a movement worldwide “FRIENDS of HELEN THOMAS”. That wonderful lady has been there reporting and telling the truth as a true journalist, she is, and she deserves to be immortalized as a symbol for decency when almost everyone else from the profession has gone mercenary for who pays the check and the monthly bills.
Helen Thomas has been attacked in a vile manner by the hyenas pack, to silence her, like they have done with everyone who told them the truth in their face and exposed their crimes.
It´s our duty to stand by her and by anyone who defends the truth, peace-justice, ethics, decency and brotherhood between all nations.
Ken is the sort of attack of Helen Thomas, just for speaking the obvious truth publicly, another sort of spectacle Norman Finkelstein had in mind when he said “the animus towards the jews is not irrational”?
No one likes a bully. Davis White , bellow, seems to think she got what was coming to her for barking at her masters after being kicked.
Mike
In short we can say that Helen Thomas is the greatest man in America and that she got balls that 99.999% of americans,Obama, Biden, common citizens,soldiers, Xe-mercenaries, and mainstream cheap presstitute propagandist floor rags can only dream of. And she has brains too. And her comment is short and meaningful. The greatest heroic deed for her country since Haym Solomon,its founding father created it for jews and profit to the master-race.
And we wish and pray for good health, peace and protection from evil Mossad in this life and a high place in Heaven in the afterlife of this world.
Sorry i forgot her namd: and we wish and pray for good health, peace and protection from the evil Mossad for Helen-Thomas in this life and a high place in Heaven to her in the afterlife of this world.
GOD DR NUR?????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DID YOU HAVE TO BE 100% HONEST!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????????
SHE PUTS MOST AMERICAN MEN TO SHAME????????????????
LET ME CATCH MY BREATH!!!!!!!!!!
MIKE
I mean you are correct Dr.Nur
Mike
Most people in a country will be whatever religion the person in charge wills, Henry VIII. Also, the United States has to be compliant, since the US government moved an entire ethic group out of the southeast US in the 1830′s. I don’t know about the Khazars, but money has a big part in religion. I don’t like Helen Thomas, she spent years trashing who ever the hell she took a notion to, now to start digging for excuses for why she was fired is funny. She got fired because she is 90 years old and pissed the wrong person off.
Yes David, we understand all too well your inability to fathom integrity and how it is dealt with by the sociopathic powermongers you so dearly love and defend.
Keep trying, maybe one day you’ll see the light.
David A. White,
who was the wrong person?????
Yes David, she pissed off some jews for speaking the truth and they own the entire USA mass media.
You sly jews like to always talk about the American Indians because you want Americans to see a parallel between that story and your mistreatment of the Palestinians , thereby setting an American historical precedent justifying your ongoing wrongdoing.
I’m sure you like and laugh about at the same time clueless Americans including a fair number of Blacks who imagine themselves modern day Hebrews in league with “the jews” , knowing full well they are lost in the woods idiots who will never be jews or accepted by the Tribe.
The more clueless American gentiles the better you can control and herd the whole bunch of cattle (goyim). Yes , some dumb gentiles want to take on the religion of their masters, the jews, never realizing they will never be jews.
All Helen Thomas ever did was speak the truth in an age of universal deceit effected by jewish ownership and control of the USA mass media.
Nice job David side stepping any mention of the jewish question, which might have hinted where you are really coming from!!!! DEFAMATION LEAGUE?
Mike
I’d like to have been able to view the maps provided. Unfortunately, no matter how many times I reload the page, those images simply will NOT load. Does anyone else have the same problem with loading images at VT?
had the same problem—there were error indications in the new firefox beta browser of “unbalanced tree” implying it was google analytics. Seems our computers are spennding most of their time secretly going to a hundred different sites before VT finally loads completely.
I certainlt want VT to know what their traffic is but it is ridiculous to be waiting or being hijacked by an “analytics” company! (i hate google!)
Mike
Nice fantasy walt, do you recite those lies to yourself as a mantra before bed every night?
My daily “off topic” post:
“Iran slams NATO over Afghan drugs”
http://presstv.com/detail/157599.html
The “Jews” who went to Palestine were mandated to learn Hebrew to cover their Yiddish. Not a one of them are Hebrew. Not a one of them is a Semite. My Palestinian husband is a Semite. And his parents and their ancestors. What a thing, to have these fake people come over from another land and claim they were there before you! They look as Palestinian as the Chinese. They are psychotics!
I guess that’s why Gandhi said in 1938 Palestine belongs to the A-Rabs?
Mike
Yes Reese, I noticed that! I hate the double talk and duplicity and that is why I’m not an antisemite but I am an antisemantic. Furthermore I hate the illegal genocidal wars fought and paid for by the USA against israel’s endless enemies.
Mike
Has anyone heard the joke about how many jews it takes to assassinate one A-Rab?
Has anyone heard the joke about how many bulldozers it takes for the jews to kill one American little girl.
Someone give me the punch lines.
Sorry Gordon, if I have offended your nice jewish member/friends of the ADL.
As Israel Shamir said, being Jewish is optional. Have your friends read the “Pardes”. There is no mandate for belonging to a racist hate organization, nor basking in the light of Jewish Supremacy!
Are they “senistive” to my feelings about the illegal three trillion wars financed and fought by Americans for Israel?. Former Senator Fritz Hollings , SC said the war in Iraq is a war for israel and everyone in Washington DC know it but are afraid to say it. I agree with Hollings.
And , Please don’t tell me what Hollings’ “friends” are saying about him (behind his back) like you did about Ralph Nader. Nader would have really brought change to America by ending the illegal phony wars for israel! And you voted for Israel’s Manchurian Candidate/President Obama?
Mike
Well folks though Dr. Nur and I are both curious about when the CIA became a subsidiary of mossad, it seems though if he continues, although he has entertained (mezmerized?) us with minute details of ancient history, I hope we don’t loose touch with the reality of the present and a group people who call themselves “jews”, and though there are different types of them, they know each other and they choose to collaborate with each other against the best interests of the majority of the citizens of the United States of America and the dreams of the Founding Fathers, clearly stated.
Mike
MIKE: STOP DRINKING ! YOU ARE A BALL-LESS, BRAIN-DAMAGED PARASITE OF UNINTIEIED NATURE. AFTER DIAGNOSIS. I GIVE THE PROGNOSIS FOR AMERICA AND ISRAEL: (WITH A MAJORITY OF HELPLESS HOPELESS SELF-PROUD IGNORANTS LIKE YOU)= THE BEAST IS RABID: NO TREATMENT IS POSSIBLE= BRING THEM DOWN OR THEY WILL TAKE THE WORLD DOWN WITH THEM.
Dr. Nur , you gonna piss off everyone if u don’t stop using those caps!
Personally i don’t give a F bout the caps. Holes in your “books” is wat I wonder about. Sounds like i have made u mad. Like Larry Dickerstine?
Mike
You should not take what I said above as a personal insult.
Mike