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GORDON DUFF: AMERICA’S MURDERER-DIPLOMAT IN PAKISTAN, A STRANGE TALE (videos)
FAISALABAD; SHUMALIA, WIFE OF FAHIM, ONE OF TWO MEN KILLED BY RAYMOND DAVIS (SUICIDE)
DAVIS FOR AAFIA SWAP DEMANDED
“Enclaves of Americans, CIA, Blackwater, “diplomats,” are said to be all over Pakistan. Webster Tarpley (video below) claims they are recruiting and training terrorists.”
By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor
Americans have been told one of their diplomats is being held illegally in Pakistan after killing two terrorists. The American government has made every imaginable effort to secure his release. Why would America’s most powerful ally, a nation dependent on American aid to survive, a nation who has lost more troops supporting America’s wars than America herself, suffered more terror attacks and more economic disruption simply, as the news reports, hold someone repeatedly called an “innocent diplomat” hostage?
(Initial police interrogation of Raymond Davis)
Why are the people of Pakistan ready to topple their own government if American Raymond Davis is released?
This week, the young wife of one of those Davis killed, shot in the back, committed suicide. This isn’t Egypt. Pakistan is an American ally in the field, with a million man army, nuclear weapons and one of the best trained military forces in the world.
Enclaves of Americans, CIA, Blackwater, “diplomats,” are said to be all over Pakistan. Webster Tarpley (video below) claims they are recruiting and training terrorists. There is no evidence of Davis and those like him be they dozens, hundreds or thousands, are actually performing any mission in either the best interests of either the United States or Pakistan. Why are they there, who do they really work for and what are they doing?
The story of Raymond Davis is more than a single incident whose facts may never be known. Davis, now an icon representing both the deteriorating relationship between America and Pakistan and the anger and mistrust Pakistani’s direct toward their own government, may well be innocent of any crime. It no longer matters. He is, in any form, in any guise, a symptom of a disease.
AMERICA NO LONGER CREDIBLE
Governments are expected to lie and America is more the “rule” than the “exception” in that category. America’s credibility around the world was destroyed the day Colin Powell went before the United Nations with his imaginary “slam dunk” proof of Saddam Hussein’s weapons programs.
"TRUTHER" BRACKEN VINDICATED AFTER ATTACKS BY PRIME MINISTER AND MEDIA
It wasn’t his personal reputation he destroyed that day, it was America’s. Nations always lie, sometimes with good reason. That day, lying became a national policy for the United States, lying to the world and, especially lying to the American people. Powell hit a 10.0 on the Richter Scale of lies that day. That day, while the molten granite and steel beneath the World Trade Center continued to cool, Powell got away with it.
Nations lie out of national interest. Too often that interest has been economic and predatory. Today, a powerful nation such as the United States, economically bankrupt, politically crippled and hopelessly divided, can fall victim to the influence of a globalist agenda that transcends anything previously imagined. When this happens, and it has happened, no conspiracy theory can approach reality.
No conspiracy theory would ever go far enough.
Powell was simply following orders, told to put his personal credibility “out there,” spending that and the world’s sympathy for the 3000 dead of 9/11. As much as elected officials and mainstream media around the world choose to ignore it, the people of the world. everywhere in the world, no longer trust America, in fact the only broad based poll ever taken showed that Australians, nearly 4 out of 5, believe the American government is fully complicit in the planning and execution of the attacks on 9/11 and, perhaps, other terror attacks as well.
Powell, in seconds, transformed what had been a reputation as the most respected and trusted man in the world to that of a liar and buffoon. All America was soon to join him.
The “Davis incident,” two carloads of special operations mercenaries, Davis in custody, charged with two counts of murder, the second car fled the scene running down and killing a civilian in its haste, and the careless lies that America’s State Department put out, puts America on that path again.
SECRET AMERICAN GROUP BELIEVED TERROR ORGANIZATION
How does all this apply to Raymond Davis, the American currently facing two charges of murder in Pakistan? How indeed!
Why don’t people in Pakistan and around the world believe America simply “forgot” to file paperwork listing him as a diplomat? Why would Pakistanis by the millions believe Davis, not just a killer but a terrorist as well?
What Americans aren’t being told is that Davis and his friends in the second car, the one not reported in the American press, are among hundreds infiltrated into Pakistan, not as diplomats but under the highly suspect Joint Special Operations Command tasked “quasi-publicly” with assassinating terrorist leaders.
Sold to congress in secret committee conclaves as a “vital capability” in what was then called the “Global War on Terror,” the plan was to use private contractors funded “off the books,” State Department, USAID, CIA, Defense, to do what the military, CIA and FBI could not, including funding terror groups. Under the leadership of Vice President Dick Cheney, this secretive organization would create parallel terrorist networks around the world to undermine the credibility of what they told congress was the massive and highly organized Al Qaeda network that threatened America’s security.
What they didn’t tell congress is that Al Qaeda was, in itself, created by the United States under a similar program and had never existed. The dozens of “web based” groups blustering about being Al Qaeda are in fact part of a non-existent front group created to provide cover for America’s bloated military industrial complex to find a replacement “enemy” now that the Soviet bloc could no longer be kept glued together. Billions on defense could now be channeled into the private sector with intelligence gathering and special operations “outsourced” to groups with closer ties to Israel than America, new groups springing up daily, mercenaries from Peru, Chile, Ethiopia, Indonesia, unaccountable, unsupervised, “no-bid contracts,” creating a self perpetuating cycle of “false flag” terror, destabilizing drone attacks, disinformation and propaganda.
Many, not just millions of everyday citizens but military and intelligence leaders of Pakistan as well, believe the shadowy group to be involved in, not only spying but in coordinating a terror war against Pakistan. Americans like Davis, armed, some in native garb, some carrying explosives, have been, not only observed but arrested in Pakistan.
One of the best known American assets used to fund terrorist groups, behind the front of Islamic charities was a CIA agent whose cover identity was “Tim Osman.” We now know him to have been Osama bin Laden, killed in Afghanistan in 2001, not killed as a terrorist leader but murdered to keep him silent. The bin Laden family had long been, not only business partners with the Bush clan but involved in intelligence and defense projects with them for decades. There is no family on earth closer to the Bush family than the bin Ladens.
Immediately after 9/11, only two planes left the United States. One held Israelis who needed to escape FBI questioning in case the one of the infamous “Dancing Israeli’s” were to crack under interrogation and implicate other Mossad cells.
Authorizing this flight was an act of treason.
The other plane carried the bin Ladens to safety in Saudi Arabia. This was an act of friendship and loyalty on the part of President George W. Bush.
PAKISTAN “IN PLAY”
When Davis was arrested, two young locals reported to have been shot numerous times in the back, part of a two car convoy heading to an area known for terror bombings, in a part of Pakistan remote from any possible American interest, hundreds of miles from Karachi and America’s supply lines, hundreds of miles from the capital of Islamabad and hundreds of miles from the FATA (Federally Administered Tribal Areas) region, the people of Pakistan believed their suspicions confirmed.
They believe an American terrorist had been arrested, one complicit in the bombings that go on every day in Pakistan, bombings that the military leadership of Pakistan believes serve a globalist agenda, America, Israel, India and Britain. Military leaders in Pakistan believe their nation, as with Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan, has been selected for destruction and dismemberment as part of a plan to dominate the Eurasian continent in light of the power vacuum that has existed since the collapse of the Soviet Union. History has confirmed their greatest fears and has done so with a clarity they now dread.
Will we be finding, in the coming months, that the struggles for freedom in Egypt, Tunisia, Algeria, Albania, Jordan, Somalia and elsewhere have been orchestrated inside a similar framework?
SPY SWAP, WILL AMERICA SACRIFICE RAYMOND DAVIS?
Few Americans are aware that Dr. Aafia Siddiqui, an MIT trained microbiologist, mother of two (children kidnapped and believed dead), wife of a Boston physician, was convicted and sentenced to 87 years in prison last year. Her crime? She is accused, after 5 years of torture and sexual abuse which left her wheelchair bound, of trying to murder 5 Americans during an interrogation session after no other charge could be brought. Five years of torture and there were no confessions despite attempts to show her to be a key player in Iraq’s nuclear program, long proven a Bush fairy tale.
RAPED AND TORTURED FOR FIVE YEARS, HOSTED BY THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE, "BEFORE" AND "AFTER"
87 pound Aafia was shot twice by her “translator” who was decorated for this heroic act.
No one at her trail asked why a Boston resident with a doctorate from MIT who has spoken English all her life needed a translator?
"VICTIM" VALERIE PLAME, BOTH "BEFORE" AND "AFTER"
Millions of Pakistanis have demonstrated for her release. Now, those millions are saying that the only way Raymond Davis will return to the United States is if Dr. Aafia is returned in a “swap,” much as those between America and the Soviet Union during the cold war.
This is what we know about this case. While on a visit to Karachi with two of her children, Dr. Aafia and her children were kidnapped by a Pakistani crime organization who passed her along until she eventually ended up in the secret CIA detention facility at Bagram Air Force Base in Afghanistan. News stories had tied her to the infamous “yellow cake” uranium story.
Valerie Plame had a movie made about her role in debunking this story. Dr. Aafia Siddiqui is still is in prison for 87 years based on the same lies. Her children are dead, murdered by her captors, quite probably, murdered by American agents working in Pakistan for the same company that hired Raymond Davis.
When it turned out that there was no “yellow cake” uranium in the first place, after 2 children were murdered, it was impossible to release Dr. Aafia.
OPENING A "CAN OF WORMS"
Every aspect of Dr. Aafia’s arrest and detention violated the United Nations Convention on Torture. Admissions to these criminal acts are part of the record of her trial. Any and all involved, not only in her torture but her trial as well face criminal prosecution under international law and may be detained at any time.
BUSH FACING ARREST FOR AAFIA AND OTHER CRIMES
As Americans learned last week, former President George W. Bush is facing and other Americans are under international travel restriction, facing criminal prosecution. President Bush cancelled a speaking engagement in Switzerland with an Israeli nationalist organization because he faced arrest for kidnapping and torture, acts he openly admits authorizing in his recent autobiography. Spain is similarly seeking to indict Bush and others.
Article 1
For the purposes of this Convention, torture means any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity.
One of the crimes President Bush is facing prosecution for is the kidnapping, torture and rape of Dr. Aafia Siddiqui and the murder of her children, all done directly under the authority and perhaps even personal direction of the President of the United States.
Article 15
Each State Party shall ensure that any statement which is established to have been made as a result of torture shall not be invoked as evidence in any proceedings, except against a person accused of torture as evidence that the statement was made.
The people of Pakistan have told their government, in no uncertain terms, that if Raymond Davis is returned without an agreement to repatriate Dr. Aafia Siddiqui, they will go the same way as Egypt.
There isn’t the remotest chance that Pakistan’s military would interfere in even the slightest way with such an endeavor.
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From what I’ve read about Davis, he’s nothing but a cold-blooded contract killer, who used bullets banned in many countries. I’m guessing he used what’s called ‘Cop Killers,’ named for their ability to pierce body armor.
Pakistan has rightly arrested and are holding this murderer and I hope he gets his just desserts.
Davis is but a drop in the bucket, for our out of control government has hired many of these killer mercs, whose only allegiance is to a paycheck.
May Allah swt agree these two inncoent children and the millions innocet killed in iraq, afghanistan and all over the world.
We need help here in the UK to indict Milliband, he acknowledge the use of torture, Blair and Brown as well as Cameron for using deliberate torture on innocent people, mainly Muslims.
Mos of the UK NGO for some reasons, good or bad did not prosecute the head of security agencies, and fake counter terror units in Scotland yard, these like others in EU are using torture as a normal tool today !
Bush is the first one we hope all these israelis firsters and neo-cons with blood in their hands will be arrested very soon… in all the western world…if Egypt can stand pacifically to their tyrants, why not american ?
May Allah swt free Dr Aafia Siddiqi and relieve her form her pain, in this world and there after
Too bad Mr. Obama can’t be queried about “why?” and no “news media” would dare go against the folks behind this, actually pointing it out to people.
Stevor , this has been going on a long time before your Bogey Man, Obama was in office. Republicans are the Majority right now. Why can’t they stop it???!
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Sensational and first-rate piece. This is what the Internet can do, with real information in the right hands.
Agreed! Good atricle Gordon!
I concur. I have learnt more about the “Davis Affair” in 10 minutes from this article than a week of Mainstream Jello reports pumping out the waffle.
Thank God there is such a resource as VT. and such a writer with investigative prowess as the Duffster. I stand in awe.
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Israel has many atomic bombs. Pakistan has one (for now). That one could more than offset any foolish decision by Israel to use its bombs. We must slash the military budget and increase aid for social welfare to all Middle East nations (and to ourselves). Israel must correct the fatal mistake it made by trying to create a national state in Palestine, and move ALL its people to another location. Maybe to central Africa, Canada– or give it Texas. – G. Beres
Send the bstrds, (oops! forgot the a`s again,) over to Palin in Alaska, George, she`ll get them sorted out..
Yes Ingrid, she will, with embezzeled money, blind Ignorance, a good dose of arrogance with that ignorance, -maybe with a dessert of beligerence. Then , she’ll look at her hand and read, she missed a date with the local Clamdigger, down the road.
Bronc, you’re showing off your fear of women again!
Not Really TV, Just my fear of Pailin!
TJB: Did you call me a Zionist shill the another night?
Ron Paul,(2012) Seriously I would never call you that. I do beleive we disagreed anight or two ago. –Yet I would never label, you, RP 2012, as being that. Sincerely. Forgive me if perceived that way
TJB:
I think you got cloned by a Zio-shill, just forget it…
General Powell’s “Cuban Missle Crisis Remake Presentation” was pretty pathetic.
DUFFY i hope like hell their water boarding this sob. what i keep saying is this; the privatization scheme from the republicon party and the corporate freakin’ sellout democraps will bring this country and maybe the freakin’ world to its knees if it isn’t stopped.the wasted billions of our dollars and the lives of the innocent are the end product of the greedy war profiteers.the new republicon nitwits in congress want to cut the damn buget? #1 they should work for free because their collective i.q. is a deficit,#2 cancel all outside federal open-ended contracts and contractors now!#3 reinstate the freakin’ draft!
mrg, you remind me of DMG..
The draft is unconstitutional coercion. No government has the right to demand sovereign individuals to fight wars that are not purely defensive in the protection of their own soil and families.
They have already betrayed enough of the Constitution to be called traitors and hanged. Let’s not call for more betrayal.
Okay, Pen, tell us where it the Constitution it says or implies the draft is unconstitutional. Make your argument, don’t blabber. I’ll listen, because you might be right.
T.V.
So is the federal incomes tax, but you don’t see people in the streets protesting that theft like they did the draft back in the late 1960′s and 70′s.
These days, we don’t have a government as outlined by the Constitution, just a bunch of power and money hungry slobs running and ruining this nation.
Sedition is un-constitutional, but it’s about time for a large dose to be handed out and water that tree Thomas Jefferson talked about.
That, or enjoy living on your knees and condemning your kids and grandkids to a life-time of economic slavery, fighting others over food scraps left in dumpsters.
Hillary is very proud of her ‘State Department’
She has praised the Egyptian regime`s handling of demonstrators, whilst condemning Iran`s..
I like HRM Hillary’s State Department!
For without Hillary’s ignorance about world affairs, without her heavy-handed ways of dealing with people she thinks are her inferiors, which is pretty much everyone and without her outright stupidity at the helm of the State Department, without those little extras helping them, the brave and principled Egyptians might not have escaped the grasp of her good friend, the liar, thief, mass murderer and Torturer-in-Chief (no, not your husband) Mubarak.
By surrounding yourself with ass-kissers; sycophants and suck-ups who told you what you wanted to hear and NOT what you needed to know, you went on about your merry ways, firmly convinced that the thug Mubarak would be able to continue to choke the live out of the courageous Egyptian people.
Again, a BIG ‘THANK YOU” for your arrogance, ignorance and clueless ways of the dealing with this complicated world.
That might of been the little extra edge the freedom loving Egyptians needed to boot the murderous Mubarak out of their beautiful country.
and we once thought the Mafia, Cosa Nostra, was bad..
remember the days when we thought a horses head in the bed was shocking??
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I thought you`d be pleased, I`m glad he`s back, now we can all relax for a few days..
There are two ways to look at an event:
1. To rule out a specific cause for an event.
Or
2. To identify a specific cause for an event.
Generally is easier to rule out a specific cause for an event than to identify a specific cause to an event.
The WTC complex destruction on 911 can not be caused by a global mechanical gravity collapse initiated by localized structural damage and subsequent localized fire which then weakened localized steel members causing catastrophic collapse. Too many facts and pieces of evidence are inconsistent & contradict the official story line.
Harder, but necessary is identifying specific facts & evidence, a chain of evidence, a sequence of events or observations & measurements, which are consistent with a specific over all cause of the event, connecting the dots that lead to only one conclusion. The evidence includes after effects that either contradict or are consistent with one specific causal mechanism. In the WTC complex destruction on 911, there is such a chain of evidence consistent with a specific causal mechanism: Nuclear and thermetic demolition coordinated, or orchestrated, in tandem to insure complete distruction in a way that maintained plausible deniability for the perpetrators.
Several songs that sum up the sad situation America finds itself in:
The Undisputed Truth “Smiling Faces Sometimes” (1971)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wKyXA_nMVQ&feature=related
The O’Jays – Back Stabbers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzTeLePbB08&feature=fvwrel
Something to think about when others smile and say, “We’re friends.”
And finally what really motivates these “friends”:
For the love of money-O’ jays Full Version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll3uipTO-4A&feature=related
Jim
We have been having a backchannel discusson between various groups within the 9/11 t groups
a major issue
this is a crime but it is being treated as though it is a science class
g
After recently having the unique opportunity to question David Chandler (9-11 researcher who sells DVD’s about the structural impossibility of wtc official story See: http://911speakout.org/ ) A lot of things have now become apparent, almost blindingly obvious. This occurred less than a month ago.
Most truth groups and research groups are focusing on the engineering impossibilities and THAT alone. Whilst this is great and a sure way of debunking the impossible physics of the 9-11 official fairy story, this also detracts from the other hard evidence of the real culprits.
My question to Mr Chandler was a simple one that witnessed by 70 or so people in a public chatroom also caused disbelief. After nearly 10 years research and investigation, I asked this professional researcher this question:
“Have you heard of the 200 or so israelis arrested in connection to Sept 11 many who were found to be involved in the attack, including the 5 “dancing israelis” caught filming the event who admitted they were there to document the event?”
Much to the astonishment of half the crowd listening in the “TRUTH Movement” room run by AE for 9-11truth on a chat program his reply was incredible.
“No I haven’t ever heard about them, …” -Im not kidding.
The guy has researched this topic to the point of selling $20 DVD’s and has never heard of the Hi-Fiving Mossad agents sent to document the event. The BIGGEST smoking gun of 9-11.
I was later chastised by the room owners for raising a “taboo subject” amongst the Architects and Engineers who basically later told me privately that raising that topic was a no-no. Afraid of personal implications, the idea is such a topic can damage reputations, destroy careers and invoke smear attacks on those researchers who do speak up.
The whole thing has become too politically correct to even be able to raised in public in a TRUTH room. What kind of truth room only allows selected truths to be spoken. I wonder. Perhaps one that is steering towards a politically acceptable truth? Perhaps one that is keeping the topics at a digestible level for the average person? Perhaps one.. No no. I don’t wish to speculate too much. It already kinda speaks volumes.
I consider this “inconvenient truth” is one that simply is getting us to watch the right hand while the left hand operates the “evidence shredder machine”. The best “truther group” I have ever found that is 100% acceptable to my ideas is the one I create myself.
Autonomous, independent and truly free from ANY outside stimulus or peer pressure. The Officially established truth groups it seems don’t much like independent thought these days.
Sadly, 9-11truth Sheeple with blinkers on are the “norm” for most 9-11truth cult groups these days.
Thanks Steve J. Where can I hear more about the other 195 Israelis arrested…
Mike Rivero’s whatreallyhappened.com has some excellent information on the lack of information being released on suspicious spyrings of the 911 period.
Are these people afraid of losing their jobs? It`s cowardly and gutless, considering there are people in the world risking their lives for truth and justice..
Beverly Hills High School – my alma mater as one of a small minority, a handful really, of students who were not Jewish. I cheered at the victory of Israel in 1967 with my classmates, who regretted not being able to fight for ‘their country’. I was totally naive. Never had a Bat Mizveh. Never understood why I spent such a lonely time. I thought it was just because I was a straight-A student. But it all was actually good training for becoming an independent thinker. Now I look at the whole question, and I cheer for the other side. Nuclear is ok by me, now that the neutron bombs have been perfected.
Gordon,
It is a crime and it is science.
It’s called forensic science.
Forensic science is as serious as a heart attack.
Forensic science in factually complicated cases, such as 911, is how culprits are proved guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law and put in prison or executed for crimes committed.
Now, in a sense, I don’t think it’s complicated, at all. I submit the evidence is overwhelming that 911 was an inside job. But ANY criminal prosecution for 911 that goes after U. S. government officials, Mossad, or anybody else, as part of an ‘inside job’ theory is going to be complicated and it will rely on a combination of direct evidence and circumstantial evidence, a huge part of that evidence, both direct & circumstantial, would be based on forensic scientific evidence.
A 911 prosecution would rise or fall on forensic scientific evidence.
I don’t mean to be flippant, but in a way, it is a “science class” for any grand jury that investigates the evidence or a trial jury that hears & weighs the evidence. In essence, the jury must be educated about the scientific evidence and taught how to analyze & interpret scientific evidence and taught the scientific method.
As a side note, my recommendation is that it is critical to elect a District Attorney in Manhatten based on a campaign platform to empannel a grand jury and commence an investigation with subpoena power with the goal to return indictments. That is the beauty of our federal system. A local prosecutor can not be “pushed aside” or stopped from investigating a crime by higher authority.
As with this crime, from the beginning, the key is New York City.
Do the citizens of New York City elect a Distric Attorney or is the position appointed?
If the Distric Attorney is elected, then the citizens of the electorial district hold the key to getting justice.
It could be possible that the Distric Attorney has the authority to hold a public inquest, as well.
(Because the possibility of getting a criminal investigation & prosecution rests on the good citizens of New York City, and they care about the views held by 911 families, it is extremely unwise to criticize 911 families or say their suffering is not real. The 911 families would be key for any successful campaign to elect a District Attorney on a sole plank of convening an investigative grand jury for 911. Does that explain why I was, perhaps, too harsh on Mike?)
jim
were you to look at the approach used…let’s say in evaluating nanothermite…
it is everything but forensic
first you hire investigators
not volunteers
the cost would have been little
g
Are you saying that Dr. Steven Jones did not conduct viable clinical scientific analysis of the dust from ground zero?
Gordon, you’re right, there never has been an honest, zealous, forensic criminal investigation — that is the best selling point — for having one. And, of course, we know why. Although, there has been at least one civil complaint suing the U. S. government filed by attorney Stanley Hilton, on behalf of 911 families (I don’t know what became of it).
But I want to say thank goodness for the volunteer research, because without those efforts millions just like myself would be in the dark about 911, still buying the official story line.
You see, I was like many other millions, blind to the truth, not questioning the official story line (heck, it took me 8 years before I started researching 911, I’m embarrassed to say). So, while volunteer research isn’t forensic, in the sense you mean, it has documented much evidence that, otherwise, would have been lost without it.
Thank you volunteer 911 researchers. I just hope the torch can be passed to a full-on criminal investigation with subpoena power and a zealous prosecutor.
Evidence is evidence regardless.
After recently having the unique opportunity to question David Chandler (9-11 researcher who sells DVD’s about the structural impossibility of wtc official story See: http://911speakout.org/ ) A lot of things have now become apparent, almost blindingly obvious. This occurred less than a month ago.
Most truth groups and research groups are focusing on the engineering impossibilities and THAT alone. Whilst this is great and a sure way of debunking the impossible physics of the 9-11 official fairy story, this also detracts from the other hard evidence of the real culprits.
My question to Mr Chandler was a simple one that witnessed by 70 or so people in a public chatroom also caused disbelief. After nearly 10 years research and investigation, I asked this professional researcher this question:
“Have you heard of the 200 or so israelis arrested in connection to Sept 11 many who were found to be involved in the attack, including the 5 “dancing israelis” caught filming the event who admitted they were there to document the event?”
Much to the astonishment of half the crowd listening in the “TRUTH Movement” room run by AE for 9-11truth on a chat program his reply was incredible.
“No I haven’t ever heard about them, …” -Im not kidding.
The guy has researched this topic to the point of selling $20 DVD’s and has never heard of the Hi-Fiving Mossad agents sent to document the event. The BIGGEST smoking gun of 9-11.
I was later chastised by the room owners for raising a “taboo subject” amongst the Architects and Engineers who basically later told me privately that raising that topic was a no-no. Afraid of personal implications, the idea is such a topic can damage reputations, destroy careers and invoke smear attacks on those researchers who do speak up.
The whole thing has become too politically correct to even be able to raised in public in a TRUTH room. What kind of truth room only allows selected truths to be spoken. I wonder. Perhaps one that is steering towards a politically acceptable truth? Perhaps one that is keeping the topics at a digestible level for the average person? Perhaps one.. No no. I don’t wish to speculate too much. It already kinda speaks volumes.
I consider this “inconvenient truth” is one that simply is getting us to watch the right hand while the left hand operates the “evidence shredder machine”. The best “truther group” I have ever found that is 100% acceptable to my ideas is the one I create myself.
Autonomous, independent and truly free from ANY outside stimulus or peer pressure. The Officially established truth groups it seems don’t much like independent thought these days.
Sadly, 9-11truth Sheeple with blinkers on are the “norm” for most 9-11truth cult groups these days.
The Vacuum of the Left, for the Right. -The Christic Institute-Truuth movemeent.
Nice work, Gordon…now, if we can get any one of these criminals into a courtroom the beans will spill all over the room. Until then, thanks for exposing this complex web. Best Wishes, Doug
Time to consider organized abduction perhaps?
Having digested the article carefully, it is clear that the actions described in Pakistan seems a common practice, everywhere.
In Australia recently, a gentleman was awarded a payout from our government to compensate for the Australian government’s activities in his rendition and torture over some time in Egypt and Guatanamo Bay. Not torturing themsleves, BUT knowing about it and of course, denying it.
One never used to believe that these things could happen, at least not with Australian citizens who always prided themselves on the fact that our government was not party to these dirty tricks. How naive in 2011. Those days are gone now
The disgraceful treatment of Mamdouh Habib by the terrorist US agencies, BUT with the connivance of the Australian government, has been well documented over the years by an activist, Richard Neville, a man with a social conscience, for anyone interested in injustice and shows what Australia has become as a submissive partner in crime with the disgraced CIA. ASIO and its lackeys deserve national condemnation for this event, their criminal involvement in acquiescing to the demands of these despicable US agencies and all from a country that has signed the UN resolution 3452 against torture.
The identification of the treatment of this man, the reporting of the facts progressively without fear by Richard Neville and the publishing of the story by the Sun Herald in Sydney, (no, not a Murdoch newspaper, of course) has made people somewhat more aware that the cosiness between governments, particularly the US and Israeli governments, peas in a pod, both disliked intensely by the rest of the world and now seen as the real danger to world peace, like never before.
The Nazis were bumbling amateurs compared to these two.
Egypt, to overcome this cabal of murderers and terrorists, America included, has a hard row to hoe. But so has Pakistan as the evil states move their destabilsation to that geopgraphy as well for their own dirty objectives.
What has the world become?
Not only has Habib been given a secret payout, in his law case against the Australian government, (not to be disclosed) of Australian taxpayer’s money due to Australia’s knowledge of his rendition and torture in Egypt by the great purveyer of freedom and justice, the US, (that was repeatedly denied by Australian Federal politicians), the Court Of Appeal has ruled in favour of him in his action for defamation against the ‘Murdocracy media’ with their weapons of mass deception. The subject article was by Piers Ackerman writing for the Daily Telegraph in Sydney.
Get another life for once, Johnson. Stop sitting around on your “Duff” in Mount Lawley and waffling on about “investigative prowess” which in all truth you only consider but a mere second to your own. Go ahead, stand up and salute, in dumbstruck awe at a REAL investigator such as Gordon, then go pump your Jello somewhere else.
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“London 7/7 Bombing: Islamist Who Trained Was US Informant”
by Shiv Malik
An American jihadist who set up the terrorist training camp where the leader of the 2005 London suicide bombers learned how to manufacture explosives, has been quietly released after serving only four and a half years of a possible 70-year sentence, a Guardian investigation has learned.
The unreported sentencing of Mohammed Junaid Babar to “time served” because of what a New York judge described as “exceptional co-operation” that began even before his arrest has raised questions over whether Babar was a US informer at the time he was helping to train the ringleader of the 7 July tube and bus bombings. [...]
Full article: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=23210
All well and good except the 7/7 bombings were pre-planted devices under the train carriages as testified to by passengers who were quickly sidelined and buried by the media after the initial reporting. Add to that the advance warning given to Netanyahu, the coverup by Scotland Yard, and the later revelations of conveniently timed and located “security drills” with the exact profile of the attack that same morning, the whole event had nothing to do with Muslims except as unfortunate victims and patsies.
This was England’s 911 and the same forces were behind it as they were behind 911 and the train bombing in Madrid which followed them both. That’s not to mention the Ankara bombing and Bali nightclub.
Articles like your citation concede partial truth on the one hand (US involvement) whilst asserting the status quo on the other (Muslim boogeymen). It just doesn’t wash.
It doesn’t negate the fact that the usual patsies where setup to take the fall.
you miss my point. The author of your article applies the official mantra of “suicide bombers” as a matter of fact, not official allegation with due caveat to the facts I touched upon.
Thus the article is a veiled attempt to sound investigatory and critical whilst maintaining the false paradigm that there were suicide bombers and that they were Muslim. None of that was ever conclusively proven, only claimed and repeated as with the official narrative of 911.
The title of the article and the fact that the guy was released from prison just reinforces the fact that these “terrorists/patsies” are working with western agencies. That is what I got out of it.
As for your point about them actually committing the crimes, the point is taken. Same as with 911.
Perhaps I just expect people to read between the lines.
Perhaps you do, but I have an instinctive reaction against those who incorporate official mantras in their “reporting” as matter of fact, even when ostensibly offering some counterpoint to the full narrative. It’s the whole narrative that is fraudulent not whatever portions seem convenient or “PC” to oppose.
Dahm-Pen- No One can break it down as you, Sir. Where the Hell did you learn those prepatory and suppositinal Phrases?!-please feel free to correct me If I’m wrong.
Ron Paul 2012 thank you for a great run of commentary this past week with excellent referential links to support your statements.
Everyone here is getting real smart lately, it’s great to see.
Everyone keep it up, the Zio-shills won’t even touch us now.
One more thing RP, you truly bring professionalism to this site and it is appreciated!
I guess you haven’t seen some of my rants….
Right, G?
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And most of all to Gordon Duff, who does not change with the “weather of things”.
Thank You for being a real journalist Gordon. Real Americans are proud of you.
Real Americans don`t have much to be proud of these days, at least not politically or financially. Everyone needs someone to fill them with pride. I`m proud to know you guys and believe that you will all do what is necessary to try to restore pride in your country.
Pride goes before the fall, Ingrid. Not everyone needs pride to carry on. Just sustenance and some degree of purpose.
Don`t sell yourselves short, don`t allow the pissy politicians and bankers to take away what is rightfully yours, insist on the right to be proud and free..
No Ingrid B-”our” country. Thank you.
Excellent article Gordon,
Here’s another story I recently came across that you need to check out, it was broadcasted on a local San Diego nightly news channel a few days ago. They interviewed the San Diego port director and he admitted on camera that nuclear WMDs have been found entering the United States, here are the links to the story,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sSnxge6BGA&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB580sKFZlo&feature=related
The USG urgently needs to have that guy back, or shut him up, before he starts talking to those Pakistani “interrogators.”
As tough and as well-trained as he may be, he is not unbreakable, and those Pakistani “interrogators” are as good as their Egyptian counterparts. If they want a confession to crucifying Christ, raping the Madonna, killing Cock Robin or JFK, it is only a matter of time until they get it. Everyone in that game knows that!
And, this guy has names! You can bet that every man whose name he knows is on his way out of Pakistan right now.
Once they get the names they want, they will probably make the Siddiqui swap.
The guy will be fortunate if he gets out of there with a trigger finger intact. I am sure he will be classified “unfit for further active duty.”
Earlaiman
OUCH !!!
this just in….
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/15/defector-admits-wmd-lies-iraq-war
The defector who convinced the White House that Iraq had a secret biological weapons program has admitted for the first time that he lied about his story, then watched in shock as it was used to justify the war.
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The man is not only a liar but a self deluded fool. Iraq is “free”, the blood of millions of of Iraqis is on his hands and his country is poisoned with the effects of untold amounts of DU and chemical weaponry fabricated and used by the good ‘ol US of A, all so he could have his personal sense of vendetta against Saddam satisfied.
he and those who used his lies to justify this war crimes fest have a special place reserved for them in the pit of hell. I hope they enjoy what time they have left on earth because payback will be a real bitch when their time comes.
Correction: “Iraq is NOT “free”…”
Gordon,
From Dan Hanley’s brother Tim…Thanks so much for all your work! A quick question -Walter Burien at cafr1.com. Are you familiar with him and the evidence he’s uncovered regarding comprehensive annual financial reports (cafrs)? Using the cafr’s of the thousands of government/corporate entities in the U.S., which by law must be filed, he has proof, using thier own disclosures, that these entities have ammassed over $100 trillion in profit using our taxes, licenses fees, etc., while claiming horrendous debt in this country at the same time.
The Feds kidnapped his son via judicial abduction because his research and evidence were so threatening to their interests. He’s still hard at work whistle-blowing. You and your people at Veterans Today might want to tie his evidence regarding cafrs in this take-down of the globalists.
All the best,
Tim Hanley
“The Feds kidnapped his son via judicial abduction because his research and evidence were so threatening to their interests.”
I didn’t know that, wow!
Anyway, everyone should look into this guys work:
“CAFR – Walter Burien – The Biggest Game in Town”
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2860538828528453481#