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SUSAN LINDAUER: The Tea Party Crashes

We the People Burning ConstitutionTHE MOST UNPATRIOTIC ACT

By Susan Lindauer, STAFF WRITER and 9/11 Whistleblower indicted on the Patriot Act

I confess that since November I’ve been holding my breath, watching the clock for how long Tea Party newcomers could hold out against the entrenched Republican elite on Capitol Hill. Collapse was inevitable, however I admit to feeling bitterly surprised at how rapidly they have thrown in the towel.

For the record, most of the Tea Party quit their principles of liberty on February 14, 2011—20 days into the new Congress—when Tea Party leaders abruptly abandoned their opposition to the Patriot Act and voted to extend intrusive domestic surveillance, wire tapping and warrantless searches of American citizens. In so doing, they exposed the fraud of their soaring campaign promises to defend the liberty of ordinary Americans, and fight government intrusions on freedom. All those wide eyed speeches that flowed with such thrilling devotions, all of it proved to be self-aggrandizing lies.

The Tea Party didn’t even put up a fight. Briefly they rejected a sneak attack to renew three surveillance clauses of the Patriot Act on a suspension vote. That filled my heart with hope. One push from the Republican elite, however and they went down with a loud thud.

My disappointment is particularly acute. Rather notoriously, I am distinguished as the second non-Arab American to face indictment on the Patriot Act, after Jose Padilla.

My status was pretty close to an enemy non-combatant. One would presume that I must have joined some terrorist conspiracy? Or engaged in some brutal act of sedition, such as stock piling weapons and munitions to overthrow those crooks in Congress?

You would be wrong. I got indicted for protesting the War in Iraq. My crime was delivering a warm-hearted letter to my second cousin White House Chief of Staff, Andy Card, which correctly outlined the consequences of War. Suspiciously, I had been one of the very few Assets covering the Iraqi Embassy at the United Nations for seven years. Thus, I was personally acquainted with the truth about Pre-War Intelligence, which differs remarkably from the story invented by GOP leaders on Capitol Hill.

More dangerously still, my team gave advance warnings about the 9/11 attack and solicited Iraq’s cooperation after 9/11. In August 2001, at the urging of my CIA handler, I phoned Attorney General John Ashcroft’s private staff and the Office of Counter-Terrorism to ask for an “emergency broadcast alert” across all federal agencies, seeking any fragment of intelligence on airplane hijackings. My warning cited the World Trade Center as the identified target. Highly credible independent sources have confirmed that in August, 2001 I described the strike on the World Trade Center as “imminent,” with the potential for “mass casualties, possibly using a miniature thermonuclear device.”

Thanks to the Patriot Act, Americans have zero knowledge of those truths, though the 9/11 Community has zoomed close for years. Republican leaders invoked the Patriot Act to take me down 30 days after I approached the offices of Senator John McCain and Trent Lott, requesting to testify about Iraq’s cooperation with the 9/11 investigation and a comprehensive peace framework that would have achieved every U.S. and British objective without firing a shot. Ironically, because of the Patriot Act, my conversations with Senator Trent Lott’s staff got captured on wire taps, proving my story.

You see, contrary to rhetoric on Capitol Hill, the Patriot Act is first and foremost a weapon to bludgeon whistleblowers and political dissidents. Indeed, it has been singularly crafted for that purpose.

The American people are not nearly as frightened as they should be. Many Americans expect the Patriot Act to limit its surveillance to overseas communications. Yet while I was under indictment, Maryland State Police invoked the Patriot Act to wire tap activists tied to the Chesapeake Climate Action Network, an environmental group dedicated to wind power, solar energy and recycling. The DC Anti-War Network was targeted as a “white supremacist group.” Amnesty International and anti-death penalty activists got targeted for alleged “civil rights violations.”

All of these are American activists engaged in lawful disputes of government policy. All of them got victimized by the surveillance techniques approved by Tea Party leaders, because they pursued a policy agenda that contradicted current government policies. The Tea Party swore to defend the freedom of independent thinking in Congressional campaigns. One presumes those promises are now forgotten until the next election.

I cannot forget. I cannot forget how I was subjected to secret charges, secret evidence and secret grand jury testimony that denied my right to face my accusers or their accusations in open court, throughout five years of indictment. I cannot forget my imprisonment on a Texas military base for a year without a trial or evidentiary hearing.

I cannot forget how the FBI, the US Attorneys Office, the Bureau of Prisons and the main Justice office in Washington — independently and collectively verified my story— then falsified testimony to Chief Justice Michael Mukasey, denying our 9/11 warnings and my long-time status as a U.S. intelligence Asset, though my witnesses had aggressively confronted them. Apparently the Patriot Act allows the Justice Department to withhold corroborating evidence and testimony from the Court, if it is deemed “classified.”

I cannot forget threats of forcible drugging and indefinite detention up to 10 years, until I could be “cured” of believing what everybody wanted to deny— because it was damn inconvenient to politicians in Washington anxious to hold onto power.

Some things are unforgivable in a democracy. The Patriot Act would be right at the top of that list. Nobody who has supported that wretched law should ever be allowed to brag of defending liberty again. That goes for the Tea Party. By voting to extend surveillance of American citizens, they have abandoned the principles of freedom that brought about their rise to power. They have shown their true face.

It is a face that we, the people, will remember. I, for one, have no intention of allowing them to forget.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR:  Susan Lindauer is the author of EXTREME PREJUDICE: The Terrifying Story of the Patriot Act and the Cover Ups of 9/11 and Iraq.

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  1. YES All of you wake up. smell the coffie. if you doint do anything you will get what they want. all you dum asses will be left with NOTHING. just a bunch of LOOSER’S. WAKE UP JACK ASS AMERICA.

  2. When are you all going to actually wake up? Don’t you see what our puppet masters are really doing to us? Just what you fools are doing on here, fighting over shit that doesn’t do a dam thing, or fix the actual problems to begin with! That’s what they want, a divided America so they can actually continue to do as they please! And just to let you know the UN-Patriot Act is nothing more than an ILLEGAL DOCUMENT giving the US Government the right to do as it pleases with it’s citizens, or in other words the right to “go-around” the Constitution for it’s own benefit, not for the benefit of the people in any way! Wake up America!
    Yeah people say we have not been attacked since the act, but then again when it was our own puppet masters doing it, how can we expect to be attacked again anyway, unless it suits their needs, again! Wake up America!
    Why don’t you ask yourself one thing about ALL the so-called Represenatives/Elected Officials of ours, why is it that they NEVER EVER talk about lowering their over bloated, and very unearned salaries, or their elitist’s benefits pacakges? These people do nothing we want, yet still get RICH off US! That’s well over billions of WASTED US Dollars every year! Think of how that would help lower the budget they CRIMINALLY ran up to begin with! When are you people going to realize this? No, instead they cut all the real citizens programs, and refuse to give veterans a cost of living increase (two years now), as well as REAL Citizen living on Social Security that they paid into anyway! Wake up America!
    And yeah, I am a Veteran, and yeah I have been exposed to continual documented (VA Documents, etc.) CRIMES by my so-called government/VA, but do you think even one of these so called Elected Officials really cares to fix the broken system, NO! Do you think even one of the proven crimes has ever been punished, NO! All that is is making the average citizen conform to the laws of this country, but allowing the government to get a free pass for it’s crimes! Nothing new here! Same thing with everything else in our country! Wake up fools before you don’t have any say in anything, period!
    Why do you think veterans are classified as “extremists” now, and not taken care of as our country promised? Because they know that we out-number them, are much better trained than them, and they are afraid of what we could do if we actually UNITED, yet all we do is fight amongst ourselves! We, like the rest of America suffers while these real Elitist’s keep getting richer and taking away our actual constituional rights, and our standing as a country in this world! Wake up America!
    Why is it that we are only allowed two choices, now three so-called choices, as to who to vote for? Why is it that no-one that really wants to run America the way it was SUPPOSED to ever gets anywhere near our capitol? Do you think anyone, for this purpose, like me, that said he would not take a salary, and wants to do things other than the norm would be allowed anywhere near a Senate or Congressional Position? NO, they would tear me apart with anything they could think up or find, no matter how much of a real patriot I am, or how I want to get this country right again! Wake up America!
    Just wait, they will be taking away our Constituional Right to Bear Arms soon, so then what will you do? I don’t know about you, but this veteran know’s dam good and well how our country actually protects it’s citizens! What a joke that is! One example is the POW’s STILL in Vietnam to this day, and they know their there yet do NOTYHING about it! Another is, what ever happend to the actual protecting of our borders that has never been done! Wake up America!
    In the mean time keep bickering among yourselves while we keep losing our country to Elitist’s, and their one sided failing angenda’s! Wake up America! This is our country, not theirs!

    US Army Veteran,
    Marc C. Daniele
    Herculaneum, Mo.
    m6c9d2000@yahoo.com

  3. Susan Landauer wrote: “Highly credible independent sources have confirmed that in August, 2001 I described the strike on the World Trade Center as ‘imminent,’ with the potential for ‘mass casualties, possibly using a miniature thermonuclear device.’”

    I haven’t read Ms. Landauer’s book, but I have read several short pieces she wrote for various websites and listened to a radio interview.

    Either I missed it or this is the first time I’ve seen Ms. Landauer refer to the “possibly using a miniature thermonuclear device”.

    It sure would be nice if Ms. Landauer could elaborate on the micro-nuke angle.

  4. I think that everybody should visit the blog listed and read the latest White Hat report. These reports come from honest government employees who have been trying to defeat the 4th Reicher cabal whose face man is Bush Sr. and his scrofulous offspring.

    These treasonous bastards need to be taken down. They aren’t representative of the real attendees of Tea Party’s past, they are opportunists who want their shot at the gravy train even though it is being shut down.

    • Exactly.

      The writers of V.T. ( at least most of them except for the Soros shills ) are the REAL Tea Partiers.
      They are just too scared or confused to come forward and reclaim it.

      ( yes it’s true, you guys at V.T. have no idea how to combat psywar )

  5. Side note:

    I really appreciate Susans article.
    Unfortunately, your new presence here became a battleground.
    It’s not a coincidence a FAKE Tea Partier (neocon) showed up here to sidetrack the issue.
    In effect you drew them out into the open, which needed to happen.
    Some of the commentators here don’t get it.

    As far as I’m concerned this panned out exactly as what was expected.
    This has been building for a long time…

  6. Terrific piece Susan! Bless you for your sacrifice. During the initial Iraq War, I made it a quest to research and read every book related to all the players. I was outraged that Ambassador Wilson was vilified and smeared, his wife outed as CIA.
    The fact that Jerome Hauer has been virtually ‘protected’ from exposure to his role in the anthrax attacks, while Dr. Ivens was persecuted wrongfully, reveals how extensive the evil in this government persists. Additionally, Babara Bodine earns my particular animosity. She covered up the probable Israeli connection to the bombing of the U.S.S. Cole. which led to John P. O’Neill’s untimely demise. Perfect article title. Let’s expunge this fake movement pronto.

  7. Kraqus, agreed! Some are using the comment section for ” adlib conversation “. This really is not a sight for ” comic relief “, but some use it that way.

  8. You guys are making this blog look like the comments section on Youtube.
    You guys need to chill out ! Don’t act like 12 years old !

    .

    • The fake Tea Partier (neocon) is being exposed and he doesn’t know what you do about it.

      He is the personification of what this article is about.
      Sorry, this has been coming for a long time…

      • What you just witnessed was a Neocon posing as a “Tea Partier” and he needed to be exposed, period.

        This guy is exactly what the article was about and he came out with guns blazing trying to do damage control.

        This needed to happen, it was a long time coming…
        Sorry.

  9. Susan, keep coming back to our VT family, this is the first analysis I’ve read on TP de-stabilizition that makes an impact. West coast will take longer to reach the “acceptance” value of defeat by self actions than mid-west or eastern seaboard councils…but TP days are over. Be it drunk with power or drink there is only one place to fall, and it takes twice the energy to get up as it took to fall.
    vr j.

  10. Ms.Lindauer is to be commended for her strength, sense of vision,integrity and ethical conduct in the face of her career getting ruined and facing the brunt of the “Patriot” Act as a whistle blower concerning Iraq.
    Not since the internment camps of WW2 for Japanese, some Italian and a very few Germans living in the US,has the Constitution been shredded so badly in the name of “Homeland Security”.
    When federal, state and local government officials, corporate executives, politicians,bankers,military leaders and other high rolling business tycoons become ABOVE the Law, then the subtle unraveling of a republic and the emergence of an empire begins.

  11. Talk is cheap. we need action. marching dont accomplish any thing. These bastards in washington dont understand. THEY ARE IGNORANT, TO THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA. what they will understand is FORCE. Blood shead on both sides. if you all beleave and want your complete freedom, then act. THE BIGGIST REBELLION IS NEEDED. bigger then all of any rebellion that there ever was in the world. ( you all see whats going on in the middle east. america needed’s one 100 times bigger. the BULLIE IS AMERICA. SHE NEEDS HER TAIL FEATHERS CUT FOR EVER. the world is not the ENEMY, its the UNITED STATES. ( what you now see is the evil empire of the world.)

  12. Oh, and welcome to VT, Susan. It isn’t always like this. Almost all of us really appreciate your Service to our country, and apologize to you for your personal hell. I look forward to your articles.

    T.P.

    • You appreciate her articles yet you approve of the Patriot Act.
      Do you see the contradiction?

      She is calling people out like YOU right in your face!

      You FAKE Tea Partier…

      • No, 2012, what I said is I understand as much about the Patriot Act as our Congress, our Country and Nation understand about Obamacare. The difference is, The Patriot Act hasn’t hurt me or my family that I know about, and ObabbleCare absolutely has.

        T.P.

        • “The Patriot Act hasn’t hurt me or my family that I know about, and ObabbleCare absolutely has.”

          So because it didn’t effect you personally that means it is okay?
          Holy shit you are a complete asshole, you just proved it. (again)
          Are you really that un-ideological and selfish?

          Obamacare sucks.
          The Patriot Act sucks.
          And you are still NOT a Tea Partier.
          See you are a pre-programmed Neocon idiot that assumed I was a “neo-lib” just because I didn’t agree with you.

          You are not very bright.
          Get it yet, FAKE Tea Partier?
          Step off you moron, go crawl back to the Neocon “republican” party where you belong…

          • 2013 => Are you really that un-ideological?

            T.P. => I stand tall and committed to being, as you say, “un-ideological” I have been called by some on the VT staff as being the most principled conservative they’ve ever met.

            2013 => and selfish?

            T.P. => every close-minded person with their own ideological stake in their temporary existence would probably agree with you. You see, the key is to be an example and unjudgemental in this unstable creation. You don’t know me from Adam, but is is so easy to call me a NeoCon, a Jew, a fake, or whatever else comes to your mind. Try looking in a mirror, 2013. You may or may not like what you see. But you can change. You can become better than what you’ve displayed. You don’t have to, but you can.

            As for me looking at myself as being selfish, I don’t think so. I’m a giver, not a taker. I nearly died saving a bunch of my military buddies. I’ve carried the scars for decades. It never once occurred to me that it was the wrong thing to do. My personal family and friends are a collection interesting characters from all walks of life — yes, some are from the elite world, some are from the poorest of dirt. They are from all walks of life, all races, all colors, all creeds. One of my good friends was on “the other side” in Nam. The South Korean consulate will often stop by to say hello and say thanks ever again. A former President and his wife live just down the street. Another good bud is a 300+ pound former college basketball player — now that I think about it, he has black skin. Damn. And he’s conservative. Double damn. Another good friend is a former Marine pilot and Astronaut. And I admire Sarah Palin’s spunk. My life is a life of action, not talk.

            They’ve all judged me, all of these folks. I seemed to have passed their muster. So, do I care if you call me whatever you want? Hardly. It just puts you in a bad light, 2013.

            Now, I understand we can all have bad days. Somedays my TBI from an IED seems unbearable. Whether you like it or not, I’m an injured Veteran for you guys, for America, for all Americans. And when my head doesn’t hurt like hell, I’d do it all over again. Don’t ask me why. It’s just in my genes.

            T.P.

        • Tj, Tj, Tj, — here is your desired retort

          Patriot Act: Minus the economic uncertainty, I go where I want, when I want; eat what I want, when I want; play on the computer when I want; telephone whoever I want, whenever I want; I an my family feel safer with thousands of nukes scattered around the country; — the drawback is an abysmal lack of border security.

          Obamablabber => I have a very sick disabled wife, it started in the Clinton Administration and she would have died were it not for the Bush Administration, Since Obama became President, her basic health care costs have skyrocketed over 2008: medicines have quadrupled; her monthly supplemental plan went from $275 per month to $625 per month, Drs. visits costs all increased up 50%; key Drs. quit serving her because of ObamaCare; disabilitis lab tests increased: CAT Scans, MRIs increased, and health isurance providers cut back on their services and products they’d pay for.

          This downward spiral began with an uninsured, inebriated motorist who ran a red light and hit us head-on. It started with a broken neck then some of the early meds gave her tumor side effects while some of my old military injuries spine redsurfaced. We are still alive, but what was manageable pre-Obama has turned into a fiancial disaster since ObamaCare.

          And it’s only going to get worse for us, including all of you.

          Night time, T.P.

  13. Susan:

    The only real Tea Party is the Ron Paul movement.
    EVERYTHING ELSE WAS A FAKE.

    It’s your fault for not being able to tell the difference.

    • You people don’t seem to get this is a good thing.
      The Neocons that infiltrated the Tea Party have exposed themselves, just like I expected they would.

      The only REAL Tea Partier in congress is RON PAUL.

      “Ron Paul: Tea Party 07″

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKZmIzEMUN8

    • Again, you are expressing your idiocy. The Tea Party came along LONG before that has-been Ron Paul. At least he’s a fighter, not a blabberer.

      • Prove it, I know you cant.

        ;)

        • FAKE “Tea Partier”:

          I knew you couldn’t prove it, you are a lying fraud.

          You have been EXPOSED, Neocon infiltrator.

          We are all laughing at you.
          Dumbass.

      • Silly “Tea Partier” with a chip on his shoulder doesn’t realize that he is speaking to the person who created it.

        I love brainwashed FOX NEWS clowns like this guy…

        • I’ll call your bluff, 2012. Give me a hint where I can discover this wonderful fount of news. I want hard facts, not some self-believing scam. If you can point me to that, I WILL APOLOGIZE ON VT in writing (protecting whatever you think you have to protect, of course). In fact, I will post a complete and thorough article for you and Ron Paul AND write a letter of apology to Ron Paul. The PR for him will be priceless.

          Of course, I’m not worrying about having to do that, but the challenge is out there for YOU!

          Go ahead, try to ignore me.

          Chatter, chatter, T.P.

      • TJ => artists, like YOU!!

        Well, at least TJ, you acknowledge my artistry. Thank you Sir.

        T.P.

  14. Every single “wanabee’ Tea Partier who voted for renewal needs to be indentified by name, and constituency, and then voted out in 2012. It is importnt that every merican know beyond doubt who the liars and traitors are, so there will be no more “official lies”, and BS! MCain specifically needs to be removed, and jailed for his treatchery againt the American people. Its time that that he face up further to his war time record as well.

    IDENTIFY BY NAME all who voted for renewal of the very uncnstitutional PATRIOT ACT.

    • Gee, Steve. Has the Patriot Act ever hurt you personally? Or a member of your family? Not me or mine. I just think you want something new to whine about.

      Now Susan might have a real, verifiable problem. Notice I say “might”.

      Get used to the Tea Party. They are going to take over the halls of Congress, the Senate and Office of the President. Why? We’re tired of whiners who do nothing but collect our tax dollars and live in luxury.

      T.P. — very real Veteran, not a Vet wannabe.

      • You are NOT a Tea Partier…
        You are a Neocon fake, don’t kid yourself.

        Please crawl back to the Neocon republican party where you belong.

        • TP:

          Show everyone how ignorant you are, tell us all what you think the Tea Party platform is? I guarantee you don’t even know…

          ( try your best not to quote what you have been told by your television set )

          • Ron Paul, First, you are what I call a NeoLib, a Tea Party wannabe. why do I say that? Because like a typical NeoLib, you resort to name calling when cornered. I’ve read and ignored your comments in the past. You claim Ron Paul is your hero, but you’re just being another scam artist –and a poor one at that.

            Second, I’ll bet the Patriot Act has NEVER you or your family personally. You are only against the Patriot Act because Ron Paul claims he is. I’m not sure you could have a thought on your own.

            As for the Tea Party platform, obviously you need to be instructed. We true Tea Partiers are for limited government, balanced budgets and living within the restrictions of our Federal and State Constitutions, but having complete freedom outside of those restrictions.

            We true Tea Partiers are NOT interested in what or how fakes like you and all the others want to bastardize our Republic. We true Tea Partiers are NOT religio-fanatics or socio-fanatics. Can something as simple as this get through your thick skull?

            Finally, Ron Paul, make that Dr. Ron Paul, MD, seems like a nice East Texas guy with some good ideas. But, he will NEVER get elected to the Presidency in America. If the choice came down to Paul or Obama (don’t tell anybody I said this) I might even have to vote for the slickster. Or not vote at all.

            I and my generations of family have fought for this country, warts and all. Can you say that you wart? I doubt it. Any more questions you lazy dipshit?

            T.P.

        • TP:

          I was there the day the Tea Party was born, and I can assure you, you are not it.

          BTW: I knew you couldn’t answer my question, you fed me a bunch of FOX NEWS garbage and then all you could do is try to play “I’m a vet and you’re not” card.

          You don’t even know what the Tea Party even is!
          The REAL Tea Party wants to:

          END THE WARS
          AUDIT THE FED
          Restore the constitution ( LIKE REPEALING THE PATRIOT ACT )
          TAKE ON WALL STREET CORRUPTION

          You are a fake Tea Partier, you got on board years after it was created and got suckered into the FOX NEWS version of the Tea Party which changed the message.

          You are a Tea Partier wannabe.
          Pathetic.

          YOU ARE NOT A TEA PARTIER, you are a NEOCON.
          Now go back to Fox News for your next set of instructions.
          You are a brainwashed idiot.

      • They will not be taking over Congress if they support Rep Bachman and her article that veterans disability compensation should be cut back. Disabled veterans have mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, sons, daughters, wives, husbands, girl friends and boy friends that vote. That can amount to many, many votes which could severely hurt the Tea Party if they go along with Rep. Bachman.

        • Do we need cutbacks,……you bet, but not at the expense of disabled veterans who receive compensation for a service connected disability. Leave disabled veterans alone.

        • I agree shud. It pisses me off to have to limp into a fast food joint and see all the cowards with “use and discard mentalities” shrinking into corners.

    • Thank you, yes! These folks better be ready to face voters! This is a huge disappointment after all their speechifying for freedom. It’s an insult. Last week the Tea Party stood against the Money Parties, and for about an hour, they remembered who put them into office. Then they saw who’s going to keep them in office— the party elite & the fundraisers– and they folded on the people’s agenda. It’s everything they swore they would never do.

      So yes, they should be identified by name, by constituency– and they should be voted out in 2012.

      • Wait a minute your Susan Lindauer, I didn’t recognize who you were for a minute.
        That’s great! Welcome to V.T.!
        ( good job Gordon )

        Disregard my rudeness below, but what most people don’t realize is that the Neocons calling themselves Tea Partiers and the fake republicans that follow them were never Tea Partiers in the first place.

        The REAL Tea Party is well aware of it.

        • This is what I mean, look at the comments on Michelle Bachmanns youtube channel. The REAL Tea Party is not fooled by these Neocon pigs…

          youtube.com/user/RepMicheleBachmann?blend=1&ob=5

        • I’m your worst dream come true, 2012. Enjoy your downhill ride.

          T.P.

          • So you admit you are nothing more than a Neocon infiltrator?
            You do realize this article is completely about Neocon Nazis like you right?

          • Don’t you guys ever get tired of playing your ‘one or two line’ comments that sounds like teenagers texting back and forth?

  15. The average American should be rendered speechless at reading Susan’s column. Sadly, many won’t be. I recall a back-and-forth I had on a social blogging site with an old high school classmate earlier this year. “Good people are coming,” he insisted. The T-Party will take care of everything and save the day, he reassured me after I voiced what he must have taken as cynical doubts. I wonder what he thinks of this current T-Party-Travesty? I’m almost afraid to ask him because chances are he’ll think it’s just blooming wonderful!

  16. Thank you Susan, for continuing to speak after your terrible ordeal. It is only by more and more people, like yourself, standing up for their constitutional rights, that this wave of madness will be stopped. If we say no to the body scanners and illegal searches then their plans will fail. ‘We are all Egyptians’, with courage and endurance spreading to people everywhere, then, we can change the direction of this murderous machine. Best Wishes, Doug

  17. And that puts paid to all that was repeatedly warned would happen vis a vis the “new crowd” “voted” in by easily gulled Fox News engorged braindead idiots in this country, aka Tea Baggers.

    The rot is systemic, not institutional, not rooted in this or that “Party” or “representative”. Throw new fish into a polluted a stream and they too will become diseased. It is the stream itself that must be cleaned out. In terms of our elite-serving, organized criminal system, that means a complete dismantling with the arrest of every last government official, think tank/tax exempt foundation and Wall Street/financial sector cohort, press and media mouthpiece complicit in crimes against the people of this nation beyond measure for generation upon generation.

    A tall task given that it has enjoyed nearly two unbroken centuries of entrenchment to the extent that most born today think it is simply the natural modern expression of our founding principles. It is not, and no amount of “voting” will ever restored what has been calculatingly and maliciously corrupted in that time.

    You have my sympathies Ms.(Mrs.?) Lindauer, unfortunately without an army of my own there’s not much more I can give to right the injustices you have received at the hands of the real criminals and traitors.

  18. Bumped here, with comment: http://freedomguide.blogspot.com/2011/02/tea-party-crashes.html

    I was a supporter of the TEA Party movement-I joined Tea Party Patriots but found my voice being drowned out… same tune different band. Figuring out that there has been practically no move to encourage and expand grassroots political activities was a tipoff. The rubber stamping of the Patriot Act renewal confirms the TEA Party movement’s a fraud at the leadership level… just like Stewie Rhodes Oath Keepers org.(501c3), and the freemasonic ringers the Ron and Rand Paul polical family.
    You want your Freedom? Take it-starting with you. Dont’ pay taxes, and don’t ask permission to earn a living, carry a gun, travel on roads, etc. Band together and if you can get enough numbers take over a town via recall election after busting open a scandal or two. If more drastic measures are needed, heed the Western Rancher’s advice on dealing with “protected” wolves:

    Shoot
    Shovel
    and SHUT UP.

    Plenty of wolves in government service.

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    • Both your posts are good data, if accurate Bo. It does put an interesting twist in the thought processes, huh?

      I don’t know the precise answer, but let’s assume for a minute that an unoccupied floor would weight 10-15 tons (I suspect it was more, but who knows, but the designers?

      The planes hit high, but empty floors would both ease and accelerate the destruction of the mechanical infrastructure. The top few floors would collapse onto the plane level floors, each one which contains its own 10-15 tons of debris. If they were occupied, that probably would double the weight. Now, at the 90th floor we may have as many as 200-300 tons or more of collapsing debris.

      You can see how the whole system would pancake straight down, every level contributing an additional 10-15 or 20-30 tons of debris including vast amounts of cement dust. Each growing mass would fall faster than the previous mass above it.

      Let’s assume, for a simple estimation. at the 89th floor, it takes 10 seconds for the ceiling to collapse and crash into the floor 10 feet below it. For ease of demonstrable computation, this has a velocity on the 89th floor of 1 foot per second.

      The amount of force hitting the 89th floor (f= mass x velocity squared) we would have a crashing force equal to 200-300 ton feet per second, without desks, etc.

      By the 88th floor, the mass will have grown by another 10-20 tons and the time to crush that 88th floor will have decreased some. Clearly, with no desks, furniture, etc., f@88th = 210-320 tons x 1.2 feet per second squared = a 88th floor hitting force without desks, etc. of either 302 tons per second up to 432 ton feet per second.

      We do similar calculations for the 87th down to and through the basements, the growing ever massively worse, accelerating firce. After a number of floors, it is now a humongous, out of control freight train heading straight down. You can see why some people jumped out of the windows and others disappeared forever as further particles of debris.

      A parallel problem is that the friction of cement dust in an electrical sparking, flame-filled environment in itself can very explosive, thus accelerating the crashing rate and blowing out windows,walls etc.

      None of this brief analysis precludes implanted explosive devices anywhere on the empty floors or in the basement. Explosive devices would only accelerate the rate of destruction and collapse.

      I think any architect or engineer worth his or her salt would have to overcome the practical physics I just described. The numbers can be more finely tuned but the results will be the same.

      Further, I know what I saw. I was stopped the morning of 9/11 on a boarding ramp for an early flight. I watched in realtime on T.V. what I as a former Boeing aerospace engineer with a high security clearance looked absolutely logical — as horrifying as it was.

      I don’t mind being wrong. But only based on simple facts, not hearsay and repeated hearsay.

      Have fun. Texas Vet

      • TJ, the real numbers, though extremely relevant, are too complicated for a forum like this. I used ten seconds so people could understand the simple nature of the basic algorithm. Because of the acceleration (velocity squared) from the ceiling to floor, this made sense as a reasonable place to start.

        I could have used an 3000# automobile 1.5 tons, but I thought that would be confusing to many. 30 mph is 44 feet per second, or .44 seconds to travel 10 feet, but even that would be an estimate without actual film of the total fall. My brother, who is one of the major highrise office building architects in this country agreed my approach would give the appropriate focus. Maybe I’ll write a book about it. But that would take so much time, and have a limited market, so who knows.

        Meanwhile, my job is to simply point the way and let others who are smart enough, do the spreadsheet or other algorithm calculations.

        To date, no one has chosen to do that.

        To me, there is no sense in spending time on inordinate tomfoolery speculations if it doesn’t fit the basic engineering, physics and math. The truth is in the forensic analysis. It does appear to me that very few people can or want to do that. Is it simply that politicians can’t or don’t understand numbers? Or is it more sinister that “they” — whomever ‘they’ are — are trying to hide the actual numbers, the actual physics. Or is it that some people are covering up to avoid lawsuits? I don’t really know. So, the trick for me is to steer things down an accurate path to its logical conclusion.

        As for my flight, I was just trying to move my wheelchair bound wife from my home city to visit my sister. I was pushing her up the boarding ramp when everything came to a screeching halt with a TV camera a dozen feet from my nose.

        Sorry for the blabber.

        T.V.

      • Tex:
        There’s a big problem with this “Pancake Theory.” Namely, that there was not a “Stack of Floors” at the base of the buildings, like the other fallen buildings in history which looked liked a “Stack of Pancakes.”

        The Twin Towers of 110 stories fell and totally collapsed in under 10 seconds at free fall speed, meaning that there was no resistance for the falling top floor or any of the floors below.

        Applying the “Pancake Theory”, a 110 story building would have taken more like 64 seconds to totally collapse, not 10 seconds. This theory goes against the known law of physics. Even NIST has thrown out the “Pancake Theory” as a viable explanation.

      • Yeah wolf, I agree with your point. But once the top 8-10 floors collapsed down in the 90s somewhere, the weight would have been so massive, the building would have collapsed in a virtual freefall mode. I remember watching on TV from the airport and it seemed to start more slowly then build up speed.

        I honest to goodness don’t remember the collapse time, even though I watched it. I don’t trust much of anything I see on the internet about this event at this day and age. Ten seconds could be right. It just seemed like a short eternity to my hypersensitive awareness. Sort of like watching a bullet in slow motion as it leaves an enemy gun barrel and passes over one’s shoulder. You can actually see those little lead suckers and it seems to take forever.

        According to BR, there were offices on the upper floors, that would have accelerated the total crash far beyond my simple example. Plug in the right variables and the algorithm could still work.

        But thanks, Wolf. I’ll check out NIST, whom I really don’t know.

        T.V.

      • “According to BR, there were offices on the upper floors, that would have accelerated the total crash far beyond my simple example.”

        So you are saying the weight “accelerated” the fall?
        You need to go back to school and learn simple high school physics…

        ***rolls eyes***

    • Rove, Do not forget about the 3 petitions by Rockefeller to the Port Authority to demolish,because it was unleasable, subsequently denied. The office space in the WTC was dark and gloomy, because it was made so strong, Romanesque or like a castle. The $800,000 price tag to first clean the building of its asbestos was required by the Port Authority before they would entertain such a permit.

    • Actually, I lived in Brooklyn until 1977 and they were having problems renting out floors in the World Trade Tower.

  19. What a truly terrifying story about a very courageous woman.

  20. TJ, you are as screwed up as Ron Paul2012. Neither of you habve a clue.

    Bring it on you stupid turd, if you have the balls.

  21. Thanks for exposing yourself, NEOCON…

  22. All fake “Tea Partier” is doing is promoting the SAME OLD Neocon agenda.
    Nothing more.
    He doesn’t even know the platform of the movement he allegedly represents.
    He just proved it.

  23. Cool, you’re awake.

    Here’s the problems with your answer 2012.

    1. I very seldom watch Fox News. I do watch professional basketball. Love it.

    2. You were NOT involved when the Tea Party was formed. That claim is a scam. My wife’s father was a founder of the Hell’s Angels. Is your dreary brain going to claim that too?

    3. Oh yes, NEOCON. I believe,sir, you are the NeoCon scam, or as Penumbra says, NeoLib scam. They’re two sides of the same coin.

    4. Oh yes, End the Wars. Why, are you afraid of a good fight? Wars, dumby, will never end for another thousand years. Humans are too stupid.
    The best offense? A best defense.

    5. Audit the Fed. I agree. But that is just a start. All non-American ownership of the Fed should be dissolved. Did you know the Fed has over $9 trillion in unaccounted for off- balance sheet financing that they gave to foreign countries — e.g., Israel? I don’t think the Fed has ever been audited since is was formed in 1913 in a surprise Christmas holiday maneuver.

    Further, banks should not cross state lines, and there should be no national or international banks based in this country.

    6. Restore the Constitution. I agree. Repeal the Patriot Act? Maybe so, maybe no. It has had no negative effects on me, and probably not you. I would ask you — that means I’m trusting your intellect — Have we had any major attacks on the U.S. soil since Bush and the Patriot Act?

    7. Take on Wall Street Corrution — The problem is most of the people in WDC are lawyers who don’t understand numbers. Therefore, the only way we’ll deal with this ongoing mess called Wall Street is my solution for No. 5 above — i.e. limit the banks and the Fed, AND audit the Fed.

    This all has to be done together. It is a major undertaking and will take “free thinkers” 4-7 major election cycles 16-28 years. But we Americans will prevail.

    8. I guess No. 8 is the implication that your NeoCon or NeoLib are Jews or Jew-wannabes. Actually, I was raised in a German-Catholic family. I suppose you superior-than-thous hate Catholics too?

    Sleep tight.

    T.P.

  24. Oh, by the way TJB, you are exposing your uneducated ignorance again. Hubris is not a Jewish word. It’s from Greek — hybris — which for sure means arrogant.

    The good news is I had to look it up the derivation myself :-)

    The better news is yes, I’m a belligerant Veteran.

    The best news is over the coming months I’m going to recruit you two into the Sarah2012 or Michelle2012 movements. Unless of course, you are women haters.

    T.P.

  25. Funny who you meet in cyberspace, huh fake Tea Partier?
    I’m the indi psyop that created the Tea Party.
    How I did it is inconsequential here.

    People in the agencies and inside the beltway know it.
    I love watching people like you tell me I wasn’t there when the Tea Party was formed, I am always amused by you. The Tea Party was created 1 week before the second Ron Paul money bomb.

    You would be surprised what happens behind the scenes.
    In fact, should be flattered I’m even speaking to you.

    Now either get with the REAL Tea Party platform or get out, because it is about to be taken back from hijacking Neocons like yourself.

    :)

  26. “The best news is over the coming months I’m going to recruit you two into the Sarah2012 or Michelle2012 movements. Unless of course, you are women haters.”

    Wow, your attempts at calling us “women haters” was a first in pshycological warfare. How is it you are so much smarter than the rest of us?

    No, we just hate Neocons like yourself that’s all.
    Thanks for exposing yourself yet again, FAKE Tea Partier.
    You do realize this article exposes FALSE Tea Partiers just like you right?

    Man, you are stupid.

  27. “The best news is over the coming months I’m going to recruit you two into the Sarah2012 or Michelle2012 movements. Unless of course, you are women haters.”

    Well unfortunately ( FAKE TEA PARTIER ) Ron Paul won the CPAC convention by a landslide, and your Neocon DINGBAT Sarah Palin came in almost last under Barney the dinosaur….

    Keep convincing yourself you are a Tea Partier, you Neocon joke.

  28. Bottom line, anyone who watches FOX news religiously and believes what they say and regurgitates it to others, is a brainwashed idiot piece of shit. That’s all! I’m including my father in that statement too cuz he’s a Glen Beck fan and worships the ground he walks on.

  29. You know you started this argument by talking about whiners. I think you don’t have a clue that their crap is going to include you too. You too will end up taking benefits from the government. Most people paid taxes to the government. Now it’s time for the government to give back to people in trouble.

  30. TJB => “and I have over two years never seen apost from you”

    T.P. => That’s ’cause, TJ, you never read the good articles on VT. The ones that are actually worth responding to, like Gates, Duff, Leon, and others. They all know me and egg me on to get you guys thinking.

    I’ll quote one of them, someone you and what’s his name, oh yeah, 2012 know fairly to quite well:

    “F–k with their minds T.P. Get ‘em stirred up.”

    Since I consider him a friend, fellow Vet, and his comment tickled my brain’s funny bone, I said, “Okay.”

    Sorry Susan. But look at the comments already. Not all are on target, but that’s the beauty of VT.

    T.P.

  31. Yeah, TJ, Toilet Paper works just fine for me, except its too long to type, so I stick with T.P. You see, I’ve spent most of my life walking around little shitheads trying to clean what comes out of their mouths, and brains if they have them.

    But, why am I relegated to EIGHTH? Didn’t I do a good enough job on you and 2013 tonite?

    T.P.

  32. Yeah, TJ, Duff can get after it, can’t he? But so can Gates, Wattree, Campbell and Ezzat. Ragman has his moments and Suiter can be sharp. Menon, C. Duff, Farrel and Roland can be very good and there are some newer folks like Nouri I enjoy.

    Ssometimes, it’s all better than the sports page.

    Tea Partier

  33. TJ — You have to read my posts where the bright stuff is written. Now, the other reason you’ve never seen a loser post from me, is I don’t write loser posts. And, no, my posts don’t emmigrate from Massachusetts, though I lived and worked up there for quite a number of years.

    Gone for the night. thanks for the fun.

    Toilet Paper

  34. Hi Tj, I agree, F=MA, or Force = Mass x Acceleration for the uninitiated. But, Acceleration (A) equals velocity squared. Therefore, F=MVsquared is appropriate.

    The other option would have been to use the head calculation for water energy flowing over a dam. But that gets complicated by the equivalent of 110 dams added together, each one at 10 feet lower than the one above.

    Cheers, Texas Vet

  35. I will throw this out to this Texas pancake. While writing my book, a senior State Department official with loads of security clearances approached me on the Q.T. He’s close to a pension, folks, and you can’t blame him for keeping his name quiet for the moment.

    Get this: in the third week of August, 2001, continuing for about 10 to 12 days, there was unusual night-time activity at the World Trade Center. Vans/small trucks were observed arriving at the World Trade Center at about 3 o’clock in the morning, departing again before 5 o’clock in the morning.

    My source insisted that he had personally studied the janitorial services of the building, and he insisted that those trucks could be identified separately from these vans, and that they had left the WTC before the second set of vans/small trucks arrived.

    There is no question or doubt in my source’s mind that those trucks brought explosives into the building, and in that period of time, a team quickly assembled explosives.

    I urge you to read my book, Extreme Prejudice, so that you understand how the 9/11 threats and warning evolved. And you’ll understand that the U.S. threatened Iraq with War from April and May 2001 onwards, if 9/11 occurred. The U.S. govt had knowledge of the attack and a motive for allowing it to occur. If the attack was spectacular enough, and the damage severe enough, the pro-War (pro-Israel, sorry, it’s true), cabal could push its war agenda forward. THAT created the necessary motive and opportunity for an orphan team to guarantee maximum impact– which would not be guaranteed by the goofy, half-wit jihadis engaged in the conspiracy. They were clowns. To guarantee the outcome of War with Iraq, they needed help.

    Hence, motive and opportunity to detonate the building.

  36. Now, Susan, it sounds like you don’t like Texas pancakes. In fact, you’re insulting them. That’s okay with me. That means there’s more pancakes for us.

    That aside, all those trucks coming and going before the explosion was not widely (or even narrowly) discussed on the Internet or in the mainstream? and/or whacko medias.

    That, and the other videos Duff recently released (in the last day or two) only verify the pancake theory. That doesn’t mean the pancake effect couldn’t be caused by imported explosives.

    I think the real key is what Rover (BR) alluded to was the years of vast empty spaces in the WTC — again, a surprise factor to most of us.

    That leads me to the inescapable conclusion that needs to be pursued (perhaps you did, I haven’t read your book yet).

    The Questions are: Who held the insurance on the cratered loser buildings, how did the damage get paid for (by us taxpayers?) and who received the money? And after the losing mess was cleaned up, who owns (ed) the leftover holes in the ground. It basically comes down to money — generally money our of taxpayers pockets into the pockets of few who consider themselves almighty and above the rest of us.

    Do you have any answers to the above, or do you just want to abuse pancakes some more to make your self feel better? If you want to be arrogant and beligerant like Tea Partier, I’ll ignore you and your book.

    Texas Vet

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