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GHOSTS OF VIETNAM CALLING DONALD TRUMP: SHOW US YOUR DRAFT CARD!

TO SOME IT NEVER HAPPENED

MILITARY CADET GRAD IN 64, COLLEGE IN 68 YET NO SERVICE
OF ANY KIND WHATSOEVER

…and, when homeless vet activists asked for his support (not money) he answered…

“Mr. Trump is in receipt of your business presentation. While he appreciates your bringing this opportunity to his attention, regretfully, it is of no interest to him.”

By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor with his good friend, Robert Rosebrock

To Donald Trump, “billionaire” huckster who peddles furniture to late night TV audiences, 9/11 never happened.  To Donald Trump, Vietnam didn’t happen either.  When other kids of millionaires were ducking into reserve units or faking diseases to avoid the Vietnam War, Donald Trumps CV goes blank and stays that way for years, in fact Donald Trump may not have been on earth at all at that time.

We want to see his draft card and his deferment records.


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When Trump became eligible, there was no lottery for the draft, everyone went,  Though Trump had attended a military academy where he had been a star athlete, when it came to facing military service, first after his academy graduation and then after college…

Where did “the Donald” go????

Inquiring minds want to know.  This is a person asking for President Obama’s birth certificate.  We want Donald Trumps draft card.

For someone wanting to run the “free world,” at the most critical time in his life when 2.9 million American served in Vietnam and millions more in the military, for no reason known to anyone, and in direct contradiction to the laws of man and

FUTURE "TRUMP" CONSTITUENTS?

the United States, Donald Trump managed to “slide on by.”

The generation that served, some surviving, many more not, isn’t ready to welcome “the Donald” until he explains exactly where and why.  Where were you Donald?  Why didn’t you serve?  How did you get out of it?  Where did you go?  Who helped you?

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Donald Trump: “You’re Fired!”

April 22, 2009 posted by Robert Rosebrock · 5 Comments (Edit)

trumpby Robert L. Rosebrock, Staff Writer

MEMO
To: Donald Trump
From: The Veterans Revolution
Subject: “You’re Fired!”

That’s right Donald, you’re finished, kaput, finito! But in all fairness, you voluntarily quit on your own by refusing to report for duty to The Veterans Revolution and support our Mission to protect, preserve and defend the Los Angeles National Veterans Home against the domestic enemy of greedy land-grabbers.

On December 17, 2008, we sent you a letter with an informational package about The Veterans Revolution. All we asked from you was for your patriotic support to help us get our message out to the general public. We didn’t ask you for any money, just your patriotic support.

“No interest”
Instead of personally responding to our simple request, four months later The Trump Organization submitted your resignation for you with a tersely written note: “Mr. Trump is in receipt of your business presentation. While he appreciates your bringing this opportunity to his attention, regretfully, it is of no interest to him.”

Thanks Donald, that must’ve taken real courage to have someone else tell Veterans that our Mission to protect, preserve and defend the Los Angeles National Veterans Home was of no interest to you.

By the way, this wasn’t a business proposal; it was a simple request asking you to champion our cause and be a spokesperson for our Mission. But if stepping up and defending America’s Veterans in their hour of need is of no interest to you, what is?

Throwing in the Towel
For the past 57 consecutive Sundays, fellow Veterans and friends of Veterans have been peacefully demonstrating against the egregious land grabbing of their sacred land, including the recent giveaway of 16 acres valued at more than a billion dollars for a public park, “rent-free.” Meanwhile, Veterans healthcare services and facilities continue to be underfunded and over-neglected.

Question: How do you say “no” to 70 and 80-year old World War II and Korean Veterans who drive from 20 and 30 miles away every Sunday to faithfully stand at one of the busiest intersections in West Los Angeles with a 15-foot banner that says “Save Our Veterans Land?”

Answer: You don’t!

But apparently, you were no match for the “Old Guard” of The Veterans Revolution so you threw in the towel before even entering the ring and throwing a single punch on their behalf. What kind of champion is that?

Just Like Old Times
Some of the younger members of The Veterans Revolutionary in their 50s and 60s have now grown accustomed to “no shows,” as witnessed during the Vietnam War era. Back then, too many young American men decided that our military’s call to action was “of no interest” to them because there were far more important things to do than serving our country. Things like making money and enjoying the benefits of a free and independent life.

These are all part of the great American dream and it’s why we have a strong national defense to protect those dreams in this great land of unlimited opportunity.

But those who chose not to serve certainly found plenty of time to berate and chastise those who did answer the call, those who took the Military Oath and pledged their lives for the safety of all others.

Forgive, But Don’t Forget
Today’s Veterans still remember the malicious welcome-home signs at the airports, calling these brave warriors “pigs,” “baby killers” and other despicable remarks. The cowardly chants were always punctuated with their only weapon: spit from their venomous mouths.

As disgusting as it was, it’s still called “freedom of expression” and it’s always our Military that protects and defends the right for others to exercise it, even if its against them. Interesting paradox, isn’t it?

Nonetheless, Veterans are a forgiving and tolerant bunch. John F. Kennedy said: “Forgive your enemies but remember their names.” Well, Veterans have long forgiven those who wouldn’t report for duty during the Vietnam War and have also forgiven those who called them vile names.

And they’ve forgiven those who actually caused America to lose the Vietnam War on our own soil with their violent and hateful protests, and always in the name of “peace.”

Vietnam-era Veterans will never forget that our brave warriors didn’t lose one significant battle they were asked to fight in Vietnam. And we remember the names of those who gave the ultimate sacrifice: 58,195 names are engraved on the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall in Washington, D.C.

Today, Veterans also forgive those who are too busy to volunteer and support The Veterans Revolution and attend our Sunday Rallies to “Save Our Veterans Land.” And we also forgive those who say “it is of no interest” to them.

Veterans Hall of Shame
On the other hand, “We the Veterans” do not forget names. In fact, we keep two lists: One for the “Veterans Hall of Fame,” and the other for the “Veterans Hall of Shame.”

Donald, guess which list your name is now on? I’ll give you a hint: it’s right beneath Janet Napolitano, Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security. And there are plenty more prominent names to keep you company, including some who are just as rich, if not richer than yourself.

We the Veterans have grown accustomed to the corrupt politicians that aid and abet the wealthy fat cats to confiscate Veterans sacred land for their personal amusement park and entertainment center. We forgive them for their sacrilegious and ruthless land grabbing, but we remember their names.

Patriotism or Marketing?

Heretofore, we always considered you to be a different breed of cat. In fact, we considered one of your greatest achievements and most significant projects to be the 70-foot Flagpole proudly displaying “Old Glory” at the Trump National Golf Club in Palos Verdes, CA.

We admired your refusal to compromise or cave-in to the demands of ungrateful politicians and community bureaucrats that wanted the American flag and pole removed because you didn’t have a permit. We thought your stand against them was a very patriotic gesture.

Apparently we were wrong, because it now appears that the incident wasn’t about Donald Trump being adamant to patriotically display the American flag at his golf course without a permit. To the contrary, it now appears that this was about Donald Trump getting free publicity in the newspapers to promote his new golf course.

if you were the great patriot you profess to be, you would’ve immediately volunteered for The Veterans Revolution as an honorable payback for those who defend the American flag, the flag that you apparently used as a marketing tool to promote your golf course.

As mentioned, it is our military that defends your right to exercise freedom of expression anyway you choose. So why can’t you defend those who have defended you?

Great Blanket of Freedom
Lest you’ve conveniently forgotten, your hotels, resorts, gambling casinos, golf courses, mansions, penthouses, private jets, helicopters, yachts, limousines and the liberty to pursue the good life are not the result of your personal business efforts.

No, Donald, they are the result of selfless men and women of the United States Armed Forces who vigilantly stand guard over this great blanket of freedom that protects you and your family and allows you to compete and prosper in the free market.

Let there be no misunderstanding; our Military and Veterans are proud to continue doing that in your behalf, and on behalf of all fellow Americans, including other nations around the world as well.

Returning the Favor
For some strange reason, we thought you would be proud to return the favor and help Veterans defend their sacred land that is being pillaged and plundered for the benefit of the wealthy and prosperous while 20,000 of our fellow Veterans are homeless here in Los Angeles.

We thought you would be outraged that there should never be one homeless Veteran here because the Los Angeles National Veterans Home is their rightful “Home.”

We thought you would be angered that this land that was exclusively deeded in 1888 and backed up by an 1887 Act of Congress, “to be permanently maintained as a National Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers,” is being stolen away for non-Veteran use.

We thought you would be proud to join The Veterans Revolution and support our demand that the Deed and Act be honored and the National Home be returned to its century-old legacy as a place for our Veterans to convalesce and rehabilitate from the ravages of war.

We thought you’d think like a Veteran.

Second Chances
Times are tough right now for everyone, including yourself. Some Americans are even losing their homes to foreclosure. But think how tough it has to be for those who served our country with great honor and have returned disabled in mind, body, or spirit to see the famed National Veterans Home that has served as a place of healing from war since the Civil War is no longer their “Home.”

These brave men and women deserve a second chance and We the Veterans and The Veterans Revolution are going to make every effort to give them that chance.

Our Mission is to take back this hallowed sanctuary by implementing the “Declaration of Enforcement” and restoring our nation’s promise and sacred trust that this land be permanently maintained as place of peace and quietude for Veterans to heal from war, not just for today’s Veterans, but for future generations of Veterans as well.

Plato prophetically forewarned 2500 years ago: “Only the dead have seen the end of war.”

Think Like a Veteran

Donald, much of your success in the business world can be attributed to getting second chances. It’s what America is all about, the opportunity to get up again after being knocked down.

And even though you refused to step into the arena and throw one punch on behalf of The Veterans Revolution, we’ll still give you a second chance to erase your name from the Veterans “Hall of Shame.”

The title of your latest book is “Think Like a Champion.” How about joining The Veterans Revolution and begin to “Think Like a Veteran?” Only then can anyone ever declare themselves to be a real champion.

About the author: Rosebrock is a U.S. Army Veteran, Vietnam War-era, HQ USARHAW, Schofield Barracks, 1965-67. He is Director of the Veterans Revolution and Director of the Old Veterans Guard.

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45 Comments for “GHOSTS OF VIETNAM CALLING DONALD TRUMP: SHOW US YOUR DRAFT CARD!”

  1. I graduated from college the same year as Mr. Trump (1968) and their was no draft lottery at that time or graduate school deferments. I started graduate school in the fall of 1968 but was soon drafted into the US Army and served my two years. Mr. Trump is lying about having a high lottery number as there was NOT a lottery when he graduated. DRAFT DODGER!!

  2. Back in the mid 1980′s I operated a Flight school at Linden airport in New Jersey. Pam Am helicopter service rented the end hanger and when DT bought Resorts from Merv Griffin he got two choppers in the deal. DT arrived one morning with a few of his crew and frist thing he asked me in the lobby was, “what do you do?” (quite arrogantly).

    By the end of the week Pan Am was shut down with 119 violations and within three weeks they were gone and the hanger became the storage space for DT’s two choppers.

    Having an older sister who was a Federal judge and another sister the president for the then Citibank seems to have been quite instrumental in all his activities.

    I was also at the airport the day a certain helicopter crashed after taking off from Trenton airport with a number of young lawyers who just happened to have gotten the NJ Casino Commission to approve DT’s first casino license in AC. Very strange crash as the tail rotor had come off right after takeoff.

    In my opinion, this guy is out for him and will do whatever he can get others to do to get it done. He uses others and blows them off, literally, once they get what he wants.

    I knew two sub -contractors that did construction work for him in NYC where they completed close to 90% of the job and then where fired without payment. They where told, “sue me”. He then had the remaining work done by others.

    His first real estate purchase was a building for the elderly in East Orange, NJ collecting Section 8; subsidized housing. Nothing wrong with that but it shows he will act the part of a self made man doing all high end ctivity when in fact he lives off the gov, uses bankruptcy laws, and has hurt many small business people.

    I suspect he made deal with the current president just to sound off and distract people from the real issues of today. A Muff and Jeff routine.

    One last thing, if anyone checks what’s under his golf courses the probability of finding tainted soils is good.

    He’s a chump and probably a draft dodger who actually believes having gone to a military high school means he served his country. He, DT only serves himself.

    • George,

      Yes..the donald has been a convenient chump…

      when the nazi GOP freaks burned out..one by one..and moved over for the trumpster..

      donald did a swan dive rather quickly

  3. Trump is a Trojan Horse, put up to do this by Soros, a buddy of his, and the puppeteer of Obummer.

  4. Trump is lying when he says he missed the draft because he got a high lottery number for the draft. He may have a high number BUT he graduated in 1968 and the lottery was not instituted until 1971. He had 3 years to be drafted. How did he dodge the draft for those 3 years? He refuses to show us his draft records. What are you hiding? Or are you ashamed, Donny?

  5. InsanityRuns Rampant

    Donald is a lying scumbag who probably fled to Europe during that time to avoid paying his dues as an American citizen. The more he talks crap about people, the more his dirty laundry will be exposed.

  6. other than sending trump your informational package, what other efforts were made to contact him?… i stand to be corrected, but i see nothing else mentioned in the article above in the way of contacting him about your issue… i ask because if all you did was mail him something, with no follow up, you shouldn’t be surprised by his impersonal, belated and business form response… one of the commentors above mentioned he was unaware that your rally’s have been going on for months even though he lives in the region, so there must be something lacking in your communication operations… how many letters, e-mails and phone calls do you imagine come into trump’s office on a daily basis?… i’m sure many of those correspondences also have to do with seeking support for worthy causes… is he supposed to say yes to all of them?…

    furthermore, had he said yes and helped you, would his draft dodging not have been an issue?… somehow i doubt it… “thanks for your help, mr trump. now show us your draft card, you coward!”…

    if i’m missing something in this equation, please advise…

    thanks,

    mookie
    usn, 78-82

    • robert rosebrock

      Mookie Von Zipper

      Not only was I making constant phone calls to his office in New York, but I had personal meetings with his principles at the Trump Palos Verdes golf course, followed up with phone calls and e-mails, all to no avail. After four months, I received the “no interest” letter from New York. I truly wanted Donald Trump on our side.

      I think Mr. Trump made his message clear in his letter and I’v made our positon clear in the article. The door is always open, but he has to volunteer. We cannot “draft” him into the Veterans Revolution.

      • robert rosebrock

        PS Mookie Von Zipper

        You state: “Furthermore, had he said yes and helped you, would his draft dodging not have been an issue? ….. somehow i doubt it… “thanks for your help, mr trump. now show us your draft car, you coward!”

        Those are your words and biased presumption, and has aboslutely nothing to do with my article.

        My article was written two years ago and doesn’t mention any draft card. Our issue is with the National Veterans Home being pillaged and plundered and 20,000 homeless Veterans being exiled.

        Stick to the issues and facts, and how about you helping the Veterans Revolution?

  7. Thanks, Gordon, Robert, and fellow vets for all you’re doing. I’m one of the vets in Oregon who salute you and support your exposure of Trump’s self-serving cowardice.

  8. Just another ChickenHawk

  9. Donald, where is that Draft Card, please?

  10. Dale R. Suiter

    Error:

    Rush Limbaugh made a trip to Afganistan to imporve troop morale at his own expense.

    Trip went well and he was well received by the troops.

    Regards

    Dale R. Suiter

  11. Robert Rosebrock will be guess speaker at Vietnam Veterans of America Conference in April 2011 and is getting the backing in the fight against the “West L.A. Land Grab”
    in California
    Thanks Robert for your lead on this issue!!!! Brothers join the cause!!!!!!!!!!1

  12. I heard as a teen that Donald Trump got his property in New York by sending blockbusters into the neighborhoods. A blockbuster is a group of unruly, possibly criminal, who destroy the make up the community so everyone moves out. From everything I’ve heard about Trump, he could run for dog catcher and I wouldn’t vote for him. Let him keep his greed in NY. We have enough greedy politicians in the government already.

    • Today “blockbusting” is now known as “gangstalking”. Hired stooges paid to, as you said, create unrest within a community. Hundreds of thousands of them, all over America.

      Only now its not Trump doing it, its the police at every level from small town cop to FBI bolshevik. Just look at the VA police at the Waco, TX VAMC and their combined effort to terrorize two minority police officers assigned to the detail.

      Or the Rosebrock case where VA police informants as well as uniformed officers went to great lengths to harass a veteran that was only trying to right a wrong.

  13. Thomas O'Brien

    While you are at it, asked him about any affiliation with the “secret societies”
    like: Freemasons, Skull and Bones, and especially THE BOHEMIAN CLUB. It seem that
    when Bush-Cheney ran, no body ever asked him about his affilitian with the
    Skull and Bones and THE BOHEMIAN CLUB.

    • Read “America’s Secret Establishment” by British economist Antony C. Sutton, in print, maybe still at his website. Whatever else about Trump I really can’t imagine him playing along with those psychotics.

  14. As far as I am concerned you can throw Trump in with Limbaugh,Beck,Bachmann,
    the majority of the Tea Party ignorants and most of the present GOP members.
    They have no idea as what being a vet is or, even more so, what being a vet
    means. They are all simple-minded, so “know-it-alls”, wealthy from whatever
    sleazy means it took to get that way and idiots to Nth degree. Trump in 2012..
    give me a freakin’ break ! Let all of these idiots experience the perils of war
    from the battlefield…not on their spreadsheets where they are getting even
    wealthier all the while we lose vets to “conflicts”, poverty, homelessness and
    whatever else is bringing us down. Semper Fi….

    • Dale R. Suiter

      Mr. Limbaugh is exterme in an anti-public employee attitude. He refers to them as “bottom feeding low lifes”. Mr. Limbaugh did make an improve the morale of the troops trip to Afghanistan. Don’t know what he believe about Vets and Vet benefits.

      Ms. Bachmann adapedted The American Heritage version of cut Vet Benefits including reducing SSI by the amount of Vet disability payments. She also wanted to cut the VA budget by $4 billion plus dollars. Ms. Bachmann withdrew from the cut the Vet beneift and VA budget position after a lotta pressure from Vets and Vet groups. She is anti-Vet in my view. Mr. Beck? Don’ know where he stands on Vet issues.

      Mr. Trump is only one of many, many “ONWARD MEN – ONCE MORE INTO THE BREECH” types who never served. He is in company with Mr. Limbaugh, Ms. Bachmann, Fomer President (and draft doger) Clinton, and many many others.

      “… these idiots…” no, they will never see a battlefield. Mitt Rommney when asked about his children serving in the military referred to their “choice” options. His kids will never throw a grenade and follow up with an assault.

      There are haves and have nots. A few of us get some good crumbs. Way of the world.

      Regards

      Daler R. Suiter

    • gosh, you must have done it all. thanks for your service.

  15. Awesome work on the LA VAMC issue, Veterans Today. I had my doubts, but now I can see you guys are really on target.

    I can only assume you guys knew pretty much beforehand that Trump would drop the ball. But it is nice to park two birds with one stone.

    Keep it up!

    • robert rosebrock

      Glenn

      Yeah, pretty amazing about the two birds with one stone scenario. Sunday will be our 159th consecutive Sunday Rally and we are making progress. Thanks for your support on this noble cause in West Los Angeles.

      • The VA has been, in my eyes, a singularly corrupt and irredeemable entity since the close of the Vietnam war, and maybe even as far back as the Economy Act back in the 30′s.

        Your efforts have taken a great leap forward in exposing to the people of America just how utterly evil the VA is. Once the VA loses the moral high ground in the eyes of the public, they will then have no standing before Congress.

        Then, the VA gets wiped off the map and every veteran gets a Medicare B card and a full restoration of legal rights within the court system as the Constitution demands. No more stacked deck at the VARO and VAMC, and no more Feres Doctrine. No matter how you slice it, we are most certainly moving forward.

        And skewering a putrid little Fascist like Trump along the way is just icing on the cake. Good stuff.

        • Dale R. Suiter

          Remember – there are benefit and medical sections in the VA. Careful of the baby and the bath water issue.

          Dale R. Suiter

  16. You stated: “On the other hand, “We the Veterans” do not forget names. In fact, we keep two lists: One for the “Veterans Hall of Fame,” and the other for the “Veterans Hall of Shame.””

    Pray tell, who elected you my spokesman?

    “Rosebrock is a U.S. Army Veteran, Vietnam War-era, HQ USARHAW, Schofield Barracks.”

    Was there something stopping you from volunteering for Vietnam? You could be a member of the VFW and the AL. Tell me more about thinking like a Veteran.

    USMC RET RVN 67-68-69

    • robert rosebrock

      Chris:

      “We the Veteans” was formed as an ad hoc team to “Save Our Veterans Land” more than three years ago. We now call ourselves the “Old Veterans Guard.” I’m the youngster at 69, with most in the 70s, 80s and 90s’ who served in the Korean War and World War II.

      Nobody speaks for you … we speak the truth at hand which you obviously have no knowledge of, or interest in, because I could not find any “Chris” on the Old Veterans Guard roster, or for a “Chris” pulling any duty in the Veterans Revolution.

      You’re more involved in thumping your chest and criticizing me, or anyone, who was not in your rifle squad during the Vietnam War. It’s that kind of “Veteran thinking” that has caused a great divide with those who served, whether it was in your rifle squad or not. Lest you’ve forgotten, we have an Army, Navy, Air Force and Coast Guard that serves to protect our country.

      Schofield Barracks is a 16,000 acre Army base that was home to the 25th Division, and was deployed to Vietnam, and Schofield was home for all jungle training for fighting in Vietnam. It was an Army support base for everything that went to Vietnam. And everybody who served, particularly in the Pacific, had an important hand in the Vietnam War. I come from an old school that “A soldier’s duty is never done.”

      This is more than thinking like a Veteran, it’s acting like one who cares about all of our disabled and dissdvantaged Veterans, whether they served in Vietnam, Korean Wars, World War II, Iraqi, Afhganistan, etc. And even if they didn’t serve in your rifle squad, we care about all who served.

      But if you want to think and act like “the donald” i.e., this is of no “interest to you” … that’s fine. But don’t try to badmouth fellow Veterans to elevate yourself.

      And why in the hell would I want to join the VFW or American Legion. I quit the Legion because they are more of the problem regarding the misappropriation of Veterans land at the National Veterans Home than a solution. Same goes for the VFW. VSO’s are all chartered by Congress and answer to Congress.

      We are an ad hoc team and not even a “non-profit.” We self-fund the Veterans Revolution because we do not want to answer to people who have a different agenda.

      Why don’t you show up at our Sunday Rally and let’s talk. Sunday will be our 159th consecutive Rally to “Save Our Veterans Land,” and to “Bring Our Homeless Veterans HOME.”

      We never stop serving our fellow Veterans … there are 20,000 homeless Veterans in Los Angeles and their righful and legally deeded Home is being pillaged and plundered for non-Veteran use i.e., a public dog park, public community park, public golf course, public botanical garden, while 11 buildings are empty and 40 designated as “historic” which means they cannt be upgraded or demolsihed to meet modern-day demands for our fellow Veterans. This problem is bigger than “the Donald’s” ego.

      If you support Trump and his “no interest” in our cause … we have no problem with that. Just come up with a better defense than badmouthing fellow Veterans in order to be accpeted into Donald’s kingdom of gambling, boooze, etc. Maybe he should take over the VFW and American Legion’s bingo games and bars. Most people outgrow that stuff and serve their fellow man and fellow Veterans with prupose,, sacrifice and compassion.

      Did I mention there are 20,000 homeless Veterans in Los Angeles?

      Robert Rosebrock
      Director, Old Veterans Guard
      Director, Veterans Revolution

    • Hey Chris I am a Vietnam Vet 67-68 U.S. Air Force and I was a Military
      Policeman and guarded air base from Cam Rahn to Dong Ha (Marine base) and as
      long as you were on the team didnt matter if you were at State side,Europe,Thailand,PI,Hawaii as long as you were military your on the same team
      and helped each other out. My neighbor US Army Germany got no credit but his unit faced off the Russians and didnt go to Nam and he did his job, if I hadnt guarded
      F-4′s,C-47 gunships,C-130 tranport and gunships there would have been more than 58000 on that Wall, I was not in the bush but dodged 122mm rockets and mortars rounds on the air-bases worked on lp’sand op’s and convoy duty and base security
      and other fun stuff, the way I see it if the guys werent in the States or were the supplies were , where and how could the grunts take the fight to Charlie and I know U.S. Air Force kicked the shit out of the NVA and VC at places like Hue,KheSahn, Cambodia,Laos and Thailand and saved alot of us. I have an Army friend in the Battle of Hue and he just loved F-4 caused they saved his life time and time again and his fellow brothers. So long as you joined the team Marines,Army,Air Force and Navy no matter were you where at lease you were on the team, and you didnt dit the team. I been told I lived in air-conditioned barracks
      and I had it maded, guess what people who say that dont know shit. how close were you to the DMZ? Dong Ha was 10 to 12 miles south of the DMZ and we went out with Marines but remember I was Air Force and I had the life of leasure in the Nam ,Ha!
      I work with Robert Rosebrock and back in December 2010 I hooked up with him and with the help and support of the VVA we are fighting the VA and all its bs, plus when it was pouring rain there I was there were you next to me ,I call it junior “monsoons” or were you watching the Super Bowl game while we stood guard?
      Come and join the fun get involved with us Sunday’s 1 pm to 4 pm and stand guard duty with us and fight for “Our Brothers and Our Land” that the VA is giving away
      and remember you can be “Arrested or ticketed” by the VA Police for being on Our Home Property. Look on Facebook “Save Our Veterans Land” , I am thankfull to Robert Rosebrock and so are so many VVA and VFW members , He walks the Talk, if you need any information I will be glad to e-mail you any material you want or better yet join us we need more “Brothers to stand and let themseves be Heard”

      • Ok Chris, I am a Desert Storm veteran, 1st Infantry Division, Combat Infantryman, 1/4 Cav and as far as I am concerned Mr. Rosebrock can speak for me any day of the week.

        When you have done as much for veterans as Rockbrock has, then you can consider yourself qualified to judge. Rosebrock has a documented history and proven capable of decisive action.

        Your question about the service organizations may be valid, but that is not due to your query, but due to the actions of said organizations.

        You, Chris, are just some random guy on the internet until you prove you are otherwise.

        I vote in favor of Rosebrock.

        • having stood on that corner with mr rosebrock, i can atest to his honor. if you are local, give the man a couple of weekends or so. it’s a very interesting corner, and an honest cause.

    • Hey Dont ever forget HARRY REID(Dem) NEVADA standing in Iraq FOB Spiecher spring 2007 he said QUOTE: “THE WAR IN IRAQ IS LOST”I watched him say that on AFN as we had to go out on a mission and lots of guys died that week the attacks were way up for the next month couldnt help but wonder how he could say war is lost with troops still fighting and how he sleeps at night? Think you all back here gave him a free pass but I will never forgive him for saying that and as you said VETS NEVER FORGET!!!

  17. Trump has been a PR story most of his life, making his money from selling his name like a billboard on projects, and anyone involved with the REAL real estate in Manhattan can tell you so. Do you honestly think he would be hawking mattresses on late night TV if he had a sous?

    He taught his method at Wharton in the early 80s, dropping in to brag. He took a percentage, like 3% of gross, of every deal he put together. Check out the Baja deal that went south in the last three years. The people who lost their money were going to sue Trump (and his daughter) but the Trumps said, “Hey! We just license our name.”

    The only thing about him that makes him a billionaire is that he probably knows how to spell the word.

  18. Dear Mr. Trump: We are in receipt of your political aspirations to run for the office of the Presidency of The United States of America. While we appreciate your bringing this to our attention, very regretfully, it is of absolutely no interest to us.

    Patrick

  19. I could dispute your backward politics but your bad manners are the issue here.
    Say goodbye.

  20. Thanks Gordon, living in LA and did not even know this weekly event was going on. I will head that way on a Sunday in the near future to check it out and be one more Body in support.

    Sincerely
    TJ Bronco

  21. Trump was a recycle in basic and ended up in dumdum platoon. Wet the bed and got out.

  22. Some insight as to the attitude of Mr Trump to the common man and the wishes of the people.

    Mr T bought a large part of Scotland in order to construct a magnificent golf course and luxury housing estate that the likes of you and I will never be able to afford to play on or live in. The problem was that a local farmer, not a golfer, preferred to farm his land and not sell it to Mr T who accused him of “living in a pigsty”

    Since then he and others have apparently been abused by Mr T and or henchmen using all the power that money can buy to get their way.

    It seems clear who holds all the aces and who is being shafted for profit and greed.

    Do you really want this guy as your next supreme commander ?

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/transport-environment/trump-accuses-menie-estate-landowner-of-living-in-pigsty-1.1030680

    http://www.thescottishfarmer.co.uk/news/horse-rider-in-grampian-police-investigation-following-menie-estate-incident-1.1032254

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/farmer-charged-with-trump-flags-theft-1.1042348

    http://search.independent.co.uk/topic/michael-forbes-golf-course

    http://www.golf.menswatchusa.com/uncategorized/your-questions-about-trump-scottish-golf-course

    • Waiting for Trump to buy the family home and open it as a flop house. (Duff House – Banff)

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