Unconfirmed: Bin Laden Mission Aborted, American Deaths from Helicopter Crash
“EYEWITNESS” INTERVIEW SAYS AMERICANS DIED, MISSION UNSUCCESSFUL
“We saw the helicopter burning, we saw the dead bodies, then everything was removed and now there is nothing”
By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor
A Pakistan news agency reports that the bin Laden raid on Abbottabad was aborted because of a helicopter crash which killed several passengers, believed to be Pashtu speaking Americans.
Though this is from a news agency, it is an eyewitness account and unconfirmed. Veterans Today has received this story from several sources but most recently from our comments section. Thanks!
If this story is true, it would be a disaster for the Obama presidency, deeply paralleling the unsuccessful hostage rescue attempt in Iran during the Carter presidency.
If the story is true, our heartfelt sympathies for the families of those who may have died in this operation. As described below, the mission depicts real heroism and, despite political concerns and the usual finger pointing, represents, of all the stories told, something Americans can be proud of.
True or not, there is a unpleasant ring of reality in this story that is lacking in all others, a reality proven out by the helicopter wreckage found at the scene. This is the only real proof there was an operation at all.
A forensic examination of the scene and the wreckage, slated to be returned to the US by the Pakistani government, would easily either prove or disprove this account.
Full And Complete Translation Of The Pakistani News Video I Posted About Osama bin Laden
This is a translation of the video linked at the bottom and was translated by my friend Khan Taashk. THANK YOU my dear friend. I wish there were a way for ALL Americans to read this translation.
Anchor: Welcome back, Mohammad Bashir is a resident of Abboottabad’s Bilal Town. Muhammad Bashir might seem an ordinary guy but he is no ordinary guy. Muhammad Bashir lives in front of Osama Ben Laden’s house in Bilal Town Abbottabad. On 2nd of May, Muhammad Bashir was present on his rooftop from where he saw the whole American operation against Osama Ben Laden with his own eyes. Yesterday when our team was present In Bilal Town, Abbottabad, near Osama Ben Laden’s hose, Muhammad Bashir came to us and said, “Sister, I need to tell you something, something that is a burden on my heart and soul”, just listen to what he said.
Bashir: I am going to share something about the Abbottabad operation which till this day nobody else has told you.
Anchor: But Muhammad Bashir was a little afraid too, while talking to me he telephoned hia reletive, Vice President of Jummat-e-Islami, Abdur Razzaq Abasi, watch it
Reporter: Tell me your name and tell me whare do you live
Bashir: Let me first, Let me talk to him one minute, i will give you full interview, full or half?
Reporter: Full Full
Bashir: Let me first talk to him
Reporter: To whom? To Abbasi?
Bashir: yes, to Abbasi
Anchor: Muhammad Bashir told us something that no one said before. So we checked his identity card, we also confirmed that he really lives there, we asked from the senior fellows about him. We were very astonished by his story just see and listen what he said.
Bashir: We were awake, not asleep, a helicopter came, some men came down from that, into that house, then that helicopter went away
Reporter: How many men?
Bashir: 10-12, then that helicopter took rounds of those rear hills, then he came bac…k and when he came bach, two more helicopters arrived, one from the west and other from the north, there was a blast in the first helicopter and it was on fire, we immediately came out, when we reached there, the helicopter was burning, then after about 20 minutes the army and police arrived, they pushed us back, now we are asking that if oama was here then who took him to america because all those men that came in the helicopter died in the blast, now if Osama was in that helicopter he must have died and got burnt in that helicopter too, then how they took him? this is a question of serious concern. America claims they they killed him and picked him up. How they picked him up? This is what we are thinking
Reporter: Was there only one helicopter?
Bashir? Yes the other that came flew away to Mansehra, there was only one that landed the men and came back to pick them but as he was picking them up, it blew away and caught fire.
Reporter: Then were in it when it blew?
Bashir: Yes They were.
Reporter : How you know?
Bashir: We saw it with our own eyes
Reporter: You saw dead man?
Bashir: Yes, dead men,
Reporter: How many?
Bashir: I couldnt count them because then the compound was on fire. The gate was open, we went in, the army and police hadnt arrived then, there were some people but they werent stopping them. The whole neighborhood has seen that but they are silent now.
Bashir: We saw the helicopter burning, we saw the dead bodies, then everything was removed and now there is nothing
Reporter: How many dead bodies you saw?
Bashir: We couldn’t count them because they were blown into pieces.
The reporter asked Bashir to narrate the story again.
Bashir said we could see the faces of those men but they were speaking pashto. I dont know whether they were Pakistani or American army or people of agencies, as you know that agency people can speak many languages.
May be they were speaking Pashto so that we consider them Pakistani.
They knocked and banged at our doors and told us not to come out.
I laid down on my rooftop and was watching them.
My kids were calling me, I told them to go to their rooms and let me check whats going on.
The reporter asks Bashir, that when he saw that the helicopter was American what was he thinking then?
Bashir said that he got afraid. He didn’t had in his mind that they will attack that house. He thought that they might have come to attack the Pakistan Army.
The reporter asked so when was your cousin Shamraiz taken away?
Bashir: Shamrez was at our home, as the helicopter exploded, me and many others went out of our homes to see what happened. Shamrez also came out and the gate of the compound was open, we went in, every thing was lying scattered, as it is a huge compound, some body parts were lying here, some there, legs, arms, heads, broken and torn body parts, during that time some part of the helicopter inside, may be the engine or other fuel related part had an explosion so we rushed out. During that time Shamrez was taken away, he is in his home now, but no one is allowed to meet him and i couldn’t get a chance to talk to him later.
Then the anchor says that they had vegetations inside the compound and Shamrez was their gardener. We know that two men Arshad and Tariq used to live there. They had good relations with the neighbours, they used to buy things from the local store. Sometimes imported dates and used to send many things to their neighbours.
Then the reporter is at Abdullah Ben Zubair Mosque, which is the nearest to compound of Osama.
She asks a guy: do you think people would have been glad and happy if they would have ever met osama?
The guy : Yes, possibly. Because he was a muslim and he believed in God.
This is the whole story! Every aspect and point translated.
The gentleman being interviewed lives across from the compound. His cousin Sahab Jamrez Khan used to grow vegetables in the compound. He was taken away in all the hullabaloo on tape @10.29 Bashir says he did not see when they wisked his cousin away.
Interviewer asks “Have you spoken to your cousin?”
Bashir “No, I have not seen him yet he in in the house. “They will not let him get out” “They will not let me get in.”
2 other men Arshad Sahib and Tariq Sahib used to go to market to shop for that compound and bought international brand items. Dates, dried meat found in compound. Also food used to come from compound to Bashir’s house Kabulu Pilau and things like that used to be presented to Bashir. They will follow up with more information. In the end the lady is standing in front of Abdullah Bin Zubair mosque. The mosque was with in walking distance of the compound. She asks people if Osama did attend this mosque people would have be happy? The one answered maybe. The other said Osama did “not” live here but he was muslim and believed in God. Interview ends.
Another thing to note is that Bashir mentioned that we are very “sharif” meaning law abiding honest people. His town was a peaceful place no excitement no murders, fights, and he is unhappy how they have made his town so frightful with all this news. One thing is very clear in this video. Two helicopters hovered never landed. One landed dropped Pashto speaking poeple on the roof 10-12 of them Helicopter left fo 20 minutes returned to load people in and small blast engine failure fire helicopter parts all over. Body parts arms, legs, head, all over. Pakistani Army/Police came in dispersed crowd. The whole scene is cleaned up totally now. No evidence left to examine.
Link to original Pakistani News video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0vo-L3VACs&feature=player_embedded
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The whole episode stinks worse than dead roadkill in mid July. It’s gonna take a whole case of room deodorizer in the form of a whistleblower to clear out the stink!
We can only hope someone with the courage and knowledge about this affair blows the lid off and takes this administration and all those around it down for the count.
My sympathies to those who died for nothing but to buttress a failed presidency.
In life, there are two fools…those who practice chicanery and those who fall for it.
Put it together, everybody. A team of seals gets set into the compound. Two other helicopters come to monitor the situation but don’t land.
The team of seals comes back out after said mission, gets into their helicopter and it explodes. The two other helicopters disappear into the night. Congrats, no witnesses to verify whether or not you’re telling the truth when you claim bin Laden was in there. (Just Google how many people– very powerful, very government connected people– say bin laden had already died years ago. Start with Dr. Steve Pieczenik, close advisor and govt. employee to at least 5 U.S. presidents) So now you’re free to tell the U.S. anything.
Oh and conveniently, just before going into the compound their video equipment goes black so no one knows what happened next, which means there’s no proof bin laden was actually in there. They could’ve just as easily been told they were going on a routine mission to take out a few Taliban operatives. They could’ve been told anything. What frightens me about this is that these men’s lives may very well have been sacrificed just for that few minutes of staged footage to pass along to president Obama. Which makes me realize he could very well NOT be in on this thing, and be getting lied to just as much as we all are. I’ve already lost faith in Obama as being anything more than a pale imitation of Dubya (I voted for the guy, talk bout disillusion) but I wonder just how aware he is of this obvious CIA fraud we’re all being presented with.
America is going down the tubes.
Congress just reauthorized the patriot Act for another four years! You cocksuckers!
This Witness making Bull shits … Like their Party leadership.. I know about their hypocrisy ..
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This story sounds credible. The eye witness seems to be an ordinary person. There doesn’t seem to be a reason for him to make this up. As a matter of fact, I think he is risking his life by telling the story.
The big question I have is this: Why did the Pakistan government get rid of all the evidence? Why did they clean up so rapidly? What happened to the forensic teams? Why not conduct a thorough investigation? If they were truly sincere in getting to the bottom of this, they would have behaved differently. What happened to Pakistan’s military defense system? Pakistan is a nuclear country, yet foreign armed services can conveniently fly in their cities at any time?
How could 3 foreign (U.S.) military helicopters fly in to make a raid and then fly out quickly? Can you imagine if the country of Mexico sent a military expedition into Dallas, Texas? There are too many loopholes. I don’t question the eye witness as much as I question the government of Pakistan and the U.S. One thing for certain is this: Pakistan is not a victim. Unfortunately, they are prostituting themselves with the U.S.
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JERUSALEM
(And Did Those Teeth)
And did those teeth in recent times
Fall to the North Arabian Sea?
Was this unholy act, O God,
By all the paparazzi seen?
Or, from the politician’s side,
The proof of death they thought they’d kill?
And was Jerusalem builded here
With all these dark satanic skills?
We’d like to know – we could be told –
Why they would want so to conspire.
We should not fear, O! Let it unfold!
Or is someone out there a liar?
I will not cease from mental fight –
Nor shall my pen sleep in my hand –
Till I have seen the proof from them;
Bin Laden’s teeth here in my hand.
CPJ, May 2011
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