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Norway Notes – More Murder Arrests/Suppressed Car Bomb Video


Breaking Story:

The Second Tragedy is the Lies

 

By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor

 


“The attack in Oslo also came 65 years to the very day after the Israeli Irgun blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem”…Eileen Fleming

“On Monday morning, when Norwegian police were announcing they caught the “madman” and “lone gunman,” they already had a second killing, military uniforms, ski masks, already had a second gunman on the island and already knew that Breivik had been on a terror watchlist all along.  Now the two other Sunday killers are identified, one still at large.  Police complicity goes so much further than missing helicopters and leaky boats”… Gordon Duff

(The two videos below will show that the bomb was not in the square but rather at one end, at a building underpass.  The explosion blew out that direction, causing huge damage only seen on the second video including what appears to be damage to water mains.  The actual location of “ground zero” is never photographed but now discernible.)


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Another video which supports Masonic theories but also contains key footage:


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Remembering my manners and putting aside cheap journalism for humanity, the staff at Veterans Today offers its condolences and best to the families of the dead and the people of Norway.  Every life is precious.

To those who profit from such things, the talking heads filling our TV screens with wild and self serving conjecture, Mr. Bolton, I am talking about you in particular, I wish you my absolute worst.  As it turns out, the killer’s political views and maniacal rhetoric are identical to yours.

There have been so many of “you” out there, running your fat little mouths that we and our relatively unlimited resources are going to be taking a long hard look.  We are now suspicious as hell.

Breaking:

Second Gunman “Disappeared?”


Tuesday, 3:32PM, “JihadWatch” still blaming Muslims for killings

Death count now 10 killed at Norway youth camp shooting; seven dead in Oslo bombing

Suspicion still revolving around jihad groups. “10 killed at Norway youth camp shooting; seven dead in Oslo bombing, police say,”

Two more killers identified, one arrested, one at large:

The arrested man has been in questioning by police Tuesday afternoon, but acknowledge after the prosecutor Karsten Monsen’s knowledge, no guilt in the case where a man was shot and killed in Lura. The suspect is the beginning of the 20-year (early 20’s) and announced through his lawyer when he realized that he was wanted.Also a man in his 30s has been charged with intentional murder, but police have not had contact with him (still at large). He is still wanted. Both individuals are based in Southern Rogaland.

Another Sunday Shooting in Norway

As the Norwegians are mourning the brutal deaths of scores inside the country, another shooting has reportedly left a male critically injured in the southwest.

The 27-year-old victim was the target of a headshot in Sandnes on Sunday, Xinhua reported. He has been placed under medical care, but his condition is reportedly unstable.

Reports say two men in military fatigues knocked on his door, broke into the house and carried out the shooting. Police are looking for the two suspects. Witnesses also saw two men fleeing from the scene in a red Audi car.

More on this:(translated)

Police investigating a number of addresses in the hunt for the perpetrator, and this is one of them, confirming officer Nina Grande.Operations at Rogaland Police District, Silvie Didriksen Ravndal, according to Eve magazine that no one was arrested during the call out.

Witnesses told police that two people made their way into the house, fired one shot and then disappeared at about 19.50 on Sunday. Police lawyer Karsten Monsen said to Eve magazine that all indications are that it all happened very quickly and purposefully.

Terrified neighbors participated in the lifesaving until the ambulance came.

The man died later in the evening of his injuries in hospital. So far police have no suspects and no clear motive in the case.

Seven armed policemen moved Monday night to an address on Sandsletta in Sola municipality in connection with the murder of 27-year-old in Lura.

Known by the police

-We have received information that we work from, says Monsen, but will not elaborate on what this is. Around ten people from the police are working broadly with the murder case and have called for witnesses to the event and at a dark station wagon, possibly a Mercedes.

-Two people were in the car and disappeared into the car, said Karsten Monsen. Police prosecutor confirmed that the victim was known to police, but can not say how.

From a neighbor who was aware of the commotion in the street after the shot, get Eve magazine reported that the dead 27-year-old was first addressed by a friend. She and another woman from the neighborhood helped later in life-saving work.

Jerusalem Post:  Norway Slaughter Done to Help Jews

‘Norway attack suspect had anti-Muslim, pro-Israel views’


1,500 page manifesto credited to Breivik, accused of killing spree, lays out
worldview including extreme screed of Islamophobia, far-right Zionism.
by Ben Hartman

Anders Behring Breivik, the Norwegian who killed nearly 100 people in a combined terror attack Friday that included car bombings in Oslo and a shooting rampage at an island summer camp, held fiercely anti-Islamic and pro-Israel views, according to a 1,500 page manifesto he uploaded before his killing spree Friday.

In the 1,500-page tome, which mentions Israel 359 times and “Jews” 324 times, Breivik lays out his worldview, which includes an extreme, bizarre and rambling screed of Islamophobia, far-right Zionism and venomous attacks on Marxism and multi-culturalism.  In one passage, he lashes out at the Western media, which he accuses of unfairly focusing on the wrongdoing of Jews.

“Western Journalists again and again systematically ignore serious Muslim attacks and rather focus on the Jews,” he wrote.

Breivik also took a jab at leftwing Jews.

“Jews that support multi-culturalism today are as much of a threat to Israel and Zionism as they are to us,” he continued.

“So let us fight together with Israel, with our Zionist brothers against all anti-Zionists, against all cultural Marxists/multiculturalists.”

He also stated that Israel is the homeland for Jews largely due to the persecution suffered by Jews at the hands of Muslims, saying “if one acknowledges that Islam has always oppressed the Jews, one accepts that Israel was a necessary refuge for the Jews fleeing not only the European, but also the Islamic variety of anti- Judaism.”

 

 

Glenn Beck, “Mr. Israel,” Justifies Killings – Dead Called “Hitler Youth”



Not the First Time:

Norway solves riddle of Mossad killing

Israel’s intelligence service, Mossad, acted without Norwegian help in a botched 1973 assassination in the ski resort of Lillehammer, a national commission concluded yesterday.

Norwegians have long speculated about involvement by their own police or intelligence service in the killing, which has been shrouded in secrecy for 27 years, and which has been a sore point in otherwise warm relations between Norway and Israel.

On July 21 1973, a team of Israeli hitmen shot dead a Moroccan waiter, Ahmed Bouchikhi, as he walked home from the cinema with his pregnant wife in the resort, 110 miles north of Oslo.

The assassins apparently mistook Bouchikhi for Hassan Salameh, a PLO intelligence chief suspected of masterminding the killing of 11 Israeli athletes at the 1972 Munich Olympics.

“This was much more than a murder,” said Gullow Gjeseth, head of the six-member government commission. “This was a violation of Norwegian sovereignty. It is a completely special case.”

In January 1996, Israel paid undisclosed compensation to Bouchikhi’s family but did not admit responsibility for the killing.”No one pays out compensation unless they are guilty,” Torill Larsen Bouchiki, widow of the murdered waiter, said yesterday.

Five suspected agents – Marianne Gladinkoff, who was born in Sweden; Sylvia Rafael, of South Africa; Israeli Abraham Gehmer; Dan Aerbel, who was born in Denmark; and Brazilian-born Zvi Steinberg – were convicted and jailed in Norway for the killing shortly after it took place. They were later pardoned.

According to the report, about nine others escaped from Norway, including the suspected leader, Michael Harari, a senior Mossad agent who has now retired. The commission said Norway did little to catch the suspects in the early 1970s.  (Ed.  Harari is a long time associate of VT staff, Dimitri Khalezov.  Harari, on September 12, 2001, admitted responsibility for the planning of the 9/11 attacks on the United States.  In 2007, this information was given to the FBI as direct evidence. )

“Barry Chamish-ophobia”

“Norway is a totally dysfunctional country. Last year there were almost 2700 rapes there and all the rapists were Muslim. So to get even, the country’s 2000 Jews live in a terror state, told not to wear kippas or appear too Jewish outside, for their own safety. And Norway is Israel’s number one enemy in the West, the premier organizer of Palestinian statehood today, and the promoters of the ghastly Oslo Accords of the ’90s. The disdain of Jews towards Norway was nowhere clearer to be seen as in the reports of its recent terror attacks.
The reports mourned Norway’s victims as much as the Norwegians shed tears over the 1500+ dead Israelis since their Oslo Accords took effect.” (Ed.  I am flabbergasted.  I can’t begin to think of an appropriate comment to this.)

Police Knew Killer

Despite being portrayed by the media as inept due to the length of time it took them to reach the island of Utoeya, it has now emerged that police knew the name of gunman Anders Behring Breivik before they even arrested him, a startling admission that prompted one of Britain’s top news anchors to question how authorities were aware of the gunman’s identity in advance.

During his Channel 4 News broadcast on Friday evening, host Jon Snow asked “why police knew the killer’s name by the time they had arrived on the island,” reported the Telegraph live blog.

“He surrendered the moment police called his name 3 minutes after they arrived. What we don’t know is how the police knew the terrorist’s name before they arrested him,” said Snow, who is recognized as one of Britain’s most trusted news anchors, and cannot be dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist”.

Oslo Explosion Origin “Unknown”

The Oslo blast, which was heard by people at least 7km away, caused extensive damage to a complex of government buildings housing the prime minister’s office and the ministries of finance, justice and petroleum. Police said it was most likely a car bomb, although this was not confirmed.

Warnings from the Israeli Press:

The judge also read short excerpts from the suspect’s statements, noting that he was only doing so in order to show the qualification for remand conditions applicable to terrror(sic) suspects. “The operation was not to kill as many as possible, but to send a strong signal that cannot be misunderstood,” the judge said, quoting Anders Behring Breivik.”As long as the Labor party keeps dragging its ideological line…mass importing Muslims,” the quote continued, “then any person with a consious(sic) cannot allow this to continue.”  Calling himself a crusader against a tide of Islam in a rambling 1,500-page online manifesto, the 32-year-old mass murderer wants the opportunity to explain actions he deemed ‘atrocious’ but ‘necessary’.

Breivik has asked to wear a uniform in court, but his lawyer, Geir Lippestad, said he did not know what type. The killer was dressed as a policeman during his shooting spree.  His lawyer said it was not clear what sort of uniform he wanted to wear. Breivik has not served in the armed forces but in some of the pictures he posted on the Internet before his killing spree he was dressed in a military-style outfit.

“He has been politically active and found out himself that he did not succeed with usual political tools and so resorted to violence,” Lippestad told TV2 news.

Anders Behring Breivik, the man being held for Friday’s shooting at an island off the coast of Norway, expressed anti-Islamic sentiments in English in the past and was an enthusiastic supporter of Israel, according to a Sunday-evening report by Channel 2 television. Breivik’s 1,500 page book attacks the European political establishment because he sees it as an ally of the Muslims against Israel, and praises Israel for not giving Muslims the same rights they enjoy in different European countries.

Breivik says, “The time has come to stop the stupid support of the Palestinians…and to start supporting our cultural cousins – Israel.” The sight of the massacre was a camp which demanded, days earlier, that Israel “finish the occupation.”

Alleged Killer Tea Party/Bachmann/Palin Fan

“We, the European Revolutionary Conservatives know very well that it will take many years, even decades before we successfully manage to consolidate to a degree where we can seize political and military power in the first Western European country. In the US, the Tea party movement is one of the first physical, political manifestations which indicate that there is a great storm coming. The creation of similar conservative organizations, even the creation of revolutionary conservative movements … is about to materialize.” From his manifesto…

Exclusive !!: May not have been car bomb

Veterans Today has received reports from sources in Oslo indicating that the bomb, now believed to be equal to more than 10 tons of TNT, was not a car bomb.  Reports indicate that “sewer workers” had been accessing the site during the days prior to the explosion, which is now estimated, were conventional explosives to have been used, to have required enough “fertilizer slurry” explosive to have filled a rail car.

The explosion is estimated to resemble that of the Marine Barracks in Beirut in 1983, killing over 200 or the Oklahoma City bombing.  There is considerable controversy in both of these attacks as to the explosives described and the results which far exceed the capabilities of the materials claim to have been used, in both cases by a degree of magnitude.

20 tons of fertilizer and fuel oil are unlikely to have fit into the boot of a typical European rental car, even with a “midsize upgrade.”

Car bombs use military grade explosives, not fertilizer bombs.  Real car bomb video below.  Explosion isn’t 1% of the Oslo blast:


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6 More Arrested in Oslo

Police in Norway have arrested six more people in connection with Friday’s twin terror attack which killed at least 92 people.

Police carried out a raid on properties in Oslo earlier this morning. It is unclear why the raids are happening.

Acting Police Chief Sveinung Sponheim has said that “It’s very difficult at this point to say whether he was acting alone or whether he was acting as part of a larger network”.

1500 Page Manifesto “Cut and Paste” Phony

The 32 year-old appears to have quoted verbatim large sections from the preaching of Theodore Kaczynski in his 1500 page online rant.

Breivik had “copied and pasted” almost a dozen key passages from the 69 year-old’s 35,000 manifesto, only changing particular words such as “leftist” with “cultural Marxist”.

Norwegian police show their hand in terror coverup:

“A police official said the suspect appears to have acted alone in both attacks, and that “it seems like this is not linked to any international terrorist organizations at all.” The official spoke on condition of anonymity because that information had not been officially released by Norway’s police.

“It seems it’s not Islamic-terror related,” the official said (Ed. shooter was an Israeli supporter). “This seems like a madman’s work.”

Norwegian news agency NTB said the suspect wrote a 1,500-page manifesto before the attack in which he attacked multiculturalism and Muslim immigration. The manifesto also described how to acquire explosives and contained pictures of Breivik, NTB said. Oslo police declined to comment on the report.

More:

The group targeted during  the shooting attacks was 600 members of the Norwegian Labor Party, which had called for a boycott of Israeli products and recognition of a Palestinian state, a group that had drawn considerable ire from Israel and its supporters, one of which was the shooter.

New questions:

A second shooter was reported by some survivors.
Initial reports that our “terrorist,” now said to be a farmer with unlimited access to tons of fertilizer to be used to make explosives, has one minor glitch to it.  He is an organic farmer and would have had NO access to chemical fertilizer, certainly not tons of it sold to someone with well established ties to extremist organizations.  An “invisible hand” seems to be operating here.

The Norwegian Air Force operated/operates 20 helicopters nearby for search and rescue/hostage/counter-terrorism.  Even without the high level terror alert status Norway was on because of threats tied to NATO involvement in Libya, marine rescue response would have demanded helicopters be “hot on the pad.”   The police “excuse” that helicopters would take too long and driving out in hopes of finding a boat as a form of “counter-terrorism response” is not going to hold water.

The police uniform and credentials, the extremely poor response time, the shooters weapons skills, all point toward too many coincidences.

Norway has 20 of these nearby, some slated for emergency use, 5 minute response

 

Now that the “Muslim” terrorist story has done its damage, the second story is out, a “lone wolf,” right winger. This would make him fodder for an intelligence agency that would mold him into something to pull out of their bag of tricks when needed. Story two, the “right winger” has its own problems and its own smell.


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The timing of this is all wrong, not just the timing but the scale.

Brevik with one of his "authorized" weapons, which included a silenced Glock with 30 magazines...in "weapon free" Norway (Is there such a thing as a "gay" rifle?)

The car bombing carries the signature of an intelligence agency. Nobody else bothers with such things. We had recent experiences in Abuja and prior to that in Alexandria.

Both of these were executed to promote strife between Christians and Muslims.  The perpetrators of the Alexandria church bombing were Israeli.

As for Abuja, the story is more complicated, there are more players including one suspicious European intelligence agency.  We will withhold judgment.

That the largest bombing in Nigeria was directly under my hotel window was an odd coincidence.

This one, this “thing” in Norway, this is sick.  Our culprit bears a striking resemblance to Julian Assange of Wikileaks fame.  Despite the love affair the “left” seems to have for Assange, Brevik and Assange are twins in more than one way, right wing politic.  As for the resemblance, everyone has to notice, I wonder when someone else will mention it.

Lets come at this thing from a couple of directions.

First of all, the most obvious explanation is that a single individual, driven hopelessly insane on Freemasonry and Zionism, as some papers are reporting, went on a killing spree over what we expect will be a “paranoid delusion.”  As with 9/11, we can expect a letter, a note of some kind, perhaps “friends” who will be selling this tale of a latter day Oswald. (written prior to the discovery of his “journal”..another good VT guess)


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This is why I mention “scale.”  This is where we are going to take a good hard look.  Why wasn’t he stopped?  Was that process interfered with, did he have some special knowledge that helped him?  This reminds me too much of the untrained pilot who flew a plane at 600 mph into the Pentagon, striking at ground level but never touching a blade of grass, a feat that dozens of the best pilots in the world say is impossible, a feat that the best aeronautical engineers in the world say the plane never could have a accomplished without coming apart well before impact.

We do not believe “cover stories,” in fact, they are often the best evidence.  Cover stories are usually much less clever than those who think them up imagine.

Means, motive and opportunity give us two primary suspects, Israel and Libya.

WAS HE HIS OWN ACCOMPLICE?

Given Weapons Training and Designated a "Good Citizen"

Israel has two difficulties with Norway that would be handled with a “false flag” terror attack.  Certainly Anders Brevik, the suspect in custody could easily be managed in a number of ways, led, perhaps assisted, augmented as it were.  Any intelligence agency can do such things.  One probably did. Israel’s difficulties are:

  • Norway’s national oil company has decided to boycott Israel because of the violence in Gaza.  This is a huge issue with Israel, seen as a threat to their national security and is likely to draw a violent response.  A car bomb near their oil company headquarters is very much a standard warning, “government to government” as it were.  Adding the slaughter of children to it is a Mossad signature.
  • All that might be found as a reminder is this 11 month old article from the Jerusalem Post:

Norway’s Ministry of Finance announced that the Norway Oil Fund divested from Africa-Israel Investments and Danya Cebus Ltd. on Monday.

The reason given is the companies’ construction in the West Bank.

The Norwegian Finance Ministry said, “The ethics council stresses that construction of settlements in the occupied territories violates the decision of the Geneva convention regarding defense of civilians during war time. Several decisions of the UN Security Council and the International Court of Justice have reached the conclusion that construction of Israeli settlements in the Palestinian territories is prohibited.”

  • Norway is likely to vote for in favor of sanctions against Israel in the United Nations this September.  Though America is expected to veto the initiative as the United States has done nearly 200 times before, there is a wrinkle this time that has not been there for years.  Rupert Murdoch will not be able to work Israel’s corner, bribery, blackmail, propaganda, spying, the usual bag of tricks that are brought out for just such an occasion.  Thus, a car bombing and the brutal slaying of scores of children, though they can’t be hung on Muslims as was the 7/7 London bombing,  will or could act as a warning to Norway and others.  In fact, there is no reason for this act to have occurred, not now, not there, not this severe, for any other reason than one.

That “one” is Libya and the warnings against NATO by Colonel Gaddafi.

Gaddafi is the most obvious suspect.  He has made the threats.  Here, Gaddafi threatens specifically to murder children in NATO Europe:

In an address relayed to some 100,000 supporters in Tripoli’s Green Square on Friday, Gaddafi urged NATO to halt its bombing campaign or risk seeing Libyan fighters descend on Europe “like a swarm of locusts or bees.”

Dressed as the "Chemical Warfare Ken" Doll

“Retreat, you have no chance of beating this brave people,” Gaddafi said.

“They can attack your homes, your offices and your families, which will become military targets just as you have transformed our offices, headquarters, houses and children into what you regard as legitimate military targets,” he said.

Normally, Gaddafi wouldn’t be considered a likely culprit.  However, Norway does have  a large Muslim population and Libyan agents have been very active in Norway.  Norway is considered Europe’s “softest” target, perfect for Gaddafi.

Even more telling is that despite his recent threats to perform terror acts exactly as the ones we have seen, he has never been mentioned, particularly when the “neocon” press has gone on its Islamophobic way.  Gaddafi was spared?  Why, might we ask?

What if they both did it…


There are two things about Libya and Israel that are not commonly known.

They have been friends, when they have needed each other at least, for decades.  It hasn’t been a perfect love affair, they have traded weapons technology, germ, chemical and nuclear, and have covered for each other.

Gaddafi insults Israel, threatens them and then calls up Israel and says “I didn’t really mean it.”  This has been going on forever.

You can take two positions on America’s press.  One, that it is totally controlled by Israel or, “two,” that those friendly to Israel control 90% of it.

The press hasn’t mentioned Libya as a possible “evildoer.”  This may well mean Libya did it and Israel helped.

Another less known piece of information is Libya’s love affair with the Republican Party, George W. Bush and, in Britain, Tony Blair.

This may well be the real reason that Obama and Cameron are trying to kill Gaddafi.

It gets even worse.  Gaddafi is represented, secretly as is allowed by law, in the US by Rudy Giuliani. Giuliani is one of Israel’s biggest friends.

The Norway attacks is a form of “two-fer” in that it serves both Libya and Israel equally.

The trail that supports this is circumstantial now.  We said “now.”

Israel is famous for car bombs.  Timing favors the Libyan threat and Israeli needs to intimidate.

The biggest “tell” is the news stories.  Israel sent out her neocon surrogates in the media to push wild conspiracy theories involving Islamic militants.

Someone with the power to influence Israel’s friends in the press is covering for Colonel Gaddafi after his recent threat to stage an attack identical to the one we have seen.

What we can depend on?

Everything we hear from the mainstream media from now on will be a lie.

Post Script: I have only worked on this story today, having returned from holiday late last night.  It is one thing, writing about the inconsistencies that pile up, the coincidences.  It is quite another gaining the scope of what has happened.  There is something uniquely personal about this story.  It draws on a nightmare endemic to our species, that of being hunted down by a bloodthirsty predator.

That this person is still alive…

Here is what I hope;  I hope all reading this feel sick inside.  I certainly do.

I am going to continue following this and try to gain an increasingly accurate perspective, much with the help of readers who scour the media for me.

Thanks

As of now, we don’t have a “lone gunman.” Too much effort, far too quickly, has been made to sell that one.


Background:

Anti-Israel demonstrations in Norway during Euro Song

Israeli singer to contest in the Euro Song final in Oslo last Saturday in May.

There will be demonstrations against Israel during Euro Song in Oslo 29th of May.

The pro-Palestine committee in Norway has announced demonstrations outside the Euro Song arena in Oslo last Saturday on May. The reason is Israel, who is going to present the Israeli finalist.

«We want to close Euro Song for Israel. They are not welcome. We will request the European Euro Song TV-consortium to boycott nations that indulges in occupation and apartheid», is a statement from a press release from the organization.

During the 1st of May celebration in Oslo, the leader of the Pro-Palestine committee was invited to hold the major speech, juts after the Norwegian Labor Party leader Roald Flaaen.

The pro Palestinian committee has already convinced the Norwegian Labour party to boycott Israel in all levels:

Both political, cultural, military and economic.

The present Left right Government of Norway is considering boycott of Israel, but the Labor Party Leadership is holding back economic sanctions. The Norwegian Pension Fund has nevertheless already boycotted the Israel company Elbit Systems Ltd, by selling all its shares.

In regards to Euro Vision, the pro-Palestinian committee writes:

«The State of Israel uses their artists to whitewash and blur the occupational force inhuman politics. We will on the night of the event visually express that Israel is not welcome ».


Source: Norwegian Daily «DagenMagazinet».


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321 Responses to "Norway Notes – More Murder Arrests/Suppressed Car Bomb Video"

  1. Oklahoma  August 3, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    Factoid: Many thanks to Gordon Duff and VT staff

  2. Oklahoma  August 3, 2011 at 1:31 pm

    Norway,

    FIXED JOB

    • Oklahoma  August 3, 2011 at 1:33 pm

      WE HAVE FAILED TOO MANY TIMES,
      THE COMPLETE INTELLIGENCE/SECURITY AGENCIES/CAPABILITIES WOULD BE ENOUGH TO CLEAR THIS UP COMPLETELY IF THE DECISION WAS MADE TO DO SO,

      YEAR TEN
      GLOBAL GOVERNMENT BY/VIA TERROR

    • Oklahoma  August 3, 2011 at 1:35 pm

      WE HAVE FAILED TOO MANY TIMES,
      THE COMPLETE INTELLIGENCE/SECURITY AGENCIES/CAPABILITIES OF THE U.S.A.
      WOULD BE ENOUGH TO CLEAR THIS UP COMPLETELY IF THE DECISION WAS MADE TO DO SO,

      YEAR TEN
      GLOBAL GOVERNMENT BY/VIA TERROR/FALSE FLAG ATTACKS

    • Oklahoma  August 3, 2011 at 1:42 pm

      IS THIS TO BE THE NEW ORDER?
      THIS IS TO BE THE NEW ORDER?
      THIS IS THE NEW ORDER?
      THE NEW ORDER IS NOT SO NEW ANYMORE?
      THE ORDER IS VERY OLD & LONG IN THE TOOTH,
      ONLY AN APOCALYPSE WILL MAKE IT POSSIBLE TO ESCAPE ROM THE PAST?
      NOT YOUR JOHN HAGEE APOCALYPSE FROM A BOOK RE-WRITTEN 115 TIMES,
      Earth changes and all that , maybe enough of the non-psychopaths will make it through to build a better civilization

  3. Oklahoma  August 3, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    Glenn Beck, “Mr. Israel,” Justifies Killings – Dead Called “Hitler Youth”

    GLENN BECK IS MOST CERTAINLY ON THE KNESSET PAYROLL

    GLENN BECK IS A ZIONISTS’ ZIONIST

    Glenn Beck made a lot of noise for awhile 2 or 3 years ago about being a Mormon, but I have actually known a few Mormons and met a few others and Glenn Beck doesn’t represent them at all

    GLENN BECK secretly attends John Hagee’s Services?

  4. william f mcdonagh3  August 2, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    gordon,thank you for your service to america,no words can express the sorrow and pain i am feeling for norway right now,

  5. Oklahoma  July 29, 2011 at 4:14 pm

    http://www.guillotine.dk/Pages/Gallery.html

  6. Peter Wakefield Sault  July 28, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    Factoid: The covenant of Hamas states that freemasonry was created as part of the zionist plot to control the world.

  7. Peter Wakefield Sault  July 28, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    Factoid: The island of Otoya is the private property of Norway’s JEWISH prime minister.

    • Peter Wakefield Sault  July 29, 2011 at 11:56 am

      Correction:- I misunderstood when Stoltenberg said “we own it”. I thought he meant himself and his wife. It is actually owned by the Labour Youth Party.

  8. Ram A  July 28, 2011 at 11:40 am

    Why isn’t anyone going after Israel with all signs leading to them? I bet if there was 1/1000th of evidence that a Muslim was involved, there would have been sanctions, UN resolutions, war planning and media field day already.
    I think Norway should not cower, they should call a spade a spade and go after Israel and ask for further investigations(but not by any US or British agencies, you know what the results would be).
    It’s time the world see Israel for what it is-a terrorist nation way before it’s inception in 1948. If anyone doubts what am saying, google the bombing of King David Hotel in Palestine, check out the USS Liberty tragedy in 1967.
    Zionists perfectd the art of bomb terrorism way before others used them, they(zionists) used bombs against the British soldiers in pre-1948 Palestine and 2 Prime Ministers of Israel belonged to those terrorist groups (check out Lehi, The Stern Gang, Irgun etc).
    Wake up people, Israel has fooled you for way too long and sold you exaggerated stories of the holocaust and you swallowed line, hook and sinker.

  9. Smitty  July 28, 2011 at 9:23 am

    The 27-year old shot by masked men was Pakistani:

    http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=no&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vg.no%2Fnyheter%2Finnenriks%2Fartikkel.php%3Fartid%3D10080949&act=url

    They’re claiming he was killed by members of motorcycle gang Bandidos

    Israel has hated Pakistan for years. The Neocons have been trying to jump start some sort of conflict with Pakistan ever since Nosamagate. IF the murder is related, and this is just a wild guess obviously, they could have pulled the Islam card if he was Pakistani. Since Norway is NATO they could potentially use this is leverage for a conflict involving Pakistan (they’re army is already there anyways)

    • Peter Wakefield Sault  July 28, 2011 at 11:40 am

      The perils of google mistranslations:-

      “Police Attorney Karsten Monsen in Rogaland police confirmed that the two accused are acquaintances of the police.”

      That should read “…the two accused are known to the police”. In other words they’ve been in trouble before. They’ve got “form” (a police record), as we say in England.

      That said, is it not an amazing coincidence that a Pak, presumably a Muslim, was murdered, gangland execution style, by bikers at the same time that Breivik and/or whoever was punishing critics of Israel? Norwegian bikers. I’ll bet all of them collect Nazi memorabilia.

  10. Greg Bacon  July 28, 2011 at 7:31 am

    Yep, the ‘fix’ is in:

    Could accused Norway killer land in luxurious prison?

    Confessed mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik may end up serving time in a newly built maximum-security prison that’s considered among the world’s most luxurious, according to The Telegraph.

    The prison, Halden Fengsel, opened last year outside of Oslo and houses around 250 male inmates. But a Norwegian news outlet TV2 claims Breivik will more likely end up in Ila prison, which is less cushy than Halden, but still “a far cry” from the bare cells of American prisons.

    The documentary photographer Alex Masi writes that the cells in Halden are equipped “with an en-suite bathroom, a flat-screen TV and various comforts. They measure 12 [square meters–about 129 square feet] and are divided up into units (10 to 12) which share a living room and kitchen,” much like a college dorm. Time Magazine described the cells as resembling an Ikea showroom, complete with “stainless-steel countertops, wraparound sofas and birch-colored coffee tables.”

    The art budget for the facility came in at more than a million dollars, Masi says, while the cells are brightly painted and lack bars on the windows. Inmates take specialty cooking classes or choose from many other courses at an in-prison high school. They can jog around the 75-acre wooded facility or even climb on the prison’s rock walls.

    You can see more of Masi’s photos of the prison by clicking the image above and at Time.com.

    According to Time, prison guards are required to help each inmate make his sentence “as meaningful, enlightening and rehabilitating as possible.” About half of the prison guards are women, since research has suggested that a corps of female guards can help reduce aggression among the prison population. The unarmed guards eat meals and play games with prisoners.

    “Life without parole” is not an option.

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/accused-norway-killer-may-land-luxurious-prison-173329040.html

    P.S. It’s worth clicking on the link to see this luxurious ‘prison,’ which is more tastefully decorated and cost more to furnish than my humble abode..

    • Peter Wakefield Sault  July 28, 2011 at 9:39 am

      “Confessed”? Show us his confession or be branded a LIAR.

  11. Joe  July 28, 2011 at 7:05 am

    Use Google map and street view with the address “Grubbegata, Oslo, Norge”. This is the explosion site before the bomb exploded.
    Look at the car in front of the governemt building. It’s a black station wagon and belongs to the government or security. The black car shown after the explosion shows a black car and when you look at a picture that shows it from the back, you will see that this is also a station wagon.
    Look up Westport News “Norway victims reflect diversity suspect despised” picture number 14.
    The 1500 page document shows on page 1468 the reference to a Volkswagen Crafter and to a calculation “18 bags = 900kg + 50kg ANALNM …”.

    If the black car was not the car bomb, and there is no evidence of another vehicle in all the pictures and videos, what did explode?
    Did he unload the stuff in front the government building, as he had drive to the shooting location?

    The document aslo shows a rented “silver grey Fiat Doblo” (735kg carrying capacity).

    Is the 1500 page pdf file real? The properties of the file shows:
    Author: Andrew Berwick
    Created: 23/07/2011 14:31:25
    This is the next day after he was arrested.

    • Peter Wakefield Sault  July 29, 2011 at 3:10 pm

      “Created: 23/07/2011 14:31:25″

      Well spotted, Joe!

      Did you see the photo of Breivik in the police car immediately after his arrest? We were told he was wearing a police uniform when he was arrested but in the car he’s wearing a pink shirt and red sweater.

  12. Smitty  July 27, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    Some group claiming to be a modern Knights Templar is trying to dissociate with Breivik:

    http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=no&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vg.no%2Fnyheter%2Finnenriks%2Foslobomben%2Fartikkel.php%3Fartid%3D10080916&act=url

    What’s interesting is this same group under the leadership of Robert C. G. Disney (Knights Templar Grand Commander) is affiliated with a Florida-based organization called Sigma International Holdings:

    http://www.globalsigma.com/index.php

    Whose flash animation says they do services for homeland security, intelligence operations, security in Iraq, security in Afghanistan, and a few others. Seriously that’s what it says, check it out. Also check out their list of clients. This Disney guy (perhaps related to Walt?) is associated with it. There are no coincidences. WTF!?!

    • Peter Wakefield Sault  July 28, 2011 at 5:10 am

      What has any of that got to do with either Breivik? Precisely nothing is what. Why are you still sucking on the lies?

    • Smitty  July 28, 2011 at 9:33 am

      You got a point. The Templar thing is BS and wasting time with it takes away from the real issues.

      You can believe they’re two different guys if you want, I personally believe it’s the same guy because the chin, nose, and eye match up. Hopefully you don’t believe Paul McCartney is a double.

      The facial hair on his chin is interesting though. In the recent photos taken from a police van the guy has a massive 5 o’clock shadow. In his glamour shots he has hair above his neck and some sort of a horse shoe thing on his chin. That’s an odd style, but I’m going to guess that he chose to style it like that. Now if it GROWS that way and isn’t styled you might be on to something cause he nearly has a beard in that police van photo

    • Peter Wakefield Sault  July 28, 2011 at 10:10 am

      Clearly neither of us can be absolutely sure about this, but Breivik #1’s beard is thin and wispy and does not cover his face. Just like mine and I am descended from Vikings. In other words it’s a true Viking beard. I’m now 60 and it still grows only on my chin and upper lip. I have never shaved in my life and didn’t even have to start trimming it until I was 30. Breivik #2 on the other hand has, from the looks of the shadow, a faceful.

      Also Breivik #1 does not have Breivik #2’s chubby chops. That’s not where weight goes on anyone even if they gain it. I’ve gained weight – it’s all on my belly. My jawline is the same as it always was (barring the dewlaps but that’s not what we’re talking about here as neither Breivik was over 40).

      Of course Breivik #2, if indeed he is a different person, is going to look something like Breivik #1. One or the other would have been chosen for that purpose. If it is a matter of identity theft then Breivik #1, the facebook trance music fan marijuana farmer, is buried in a shallow grave.

      As a former rock musician (third rate, it must be said) I have encountered all kinds of druggies in my life. No doper cares enough about anything to do the Norway thing. Breivik #2, the uniform fetishist, does not look like a doper. He’s just weird.

      Did Breivik #1 “clean up” and metamorphose into Breivik #2? Are we ever going to see positive id? Of course not.

      The bottom line is that no politician, judge or policeman can be trusted in any respect whatsoever. 9/11 has proved that beyond a shadow of a doubt. So whatever they have to say must be disregarded as, at the very best, unreliable.

  13. Rick Lake  July 27, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    The exercise where they forgot to notify residents DID NOT happen a couple of day before, it was conducted over a year before, the 17th of march 2010, here is a link to the article http://ipad.aftenposten.no/nyheter/oslo/article3569108.ece it is in norwegian but you can see the date on it and the video of it.

  14. Peter Wakefield Sault  July 27, 2011 at 1:50 pm

    We are told that Breivik #2 (the uniform fetishist) was wearing a police uniform on the island. And yet after his arrest, in the police car he definitely seems to be wearing a pink shirt and red sweater. Police uniform? Oops!

    http://www.odeion.org/images/breivik-police-car.jpg

    • Smitty  July 27, 2011 at 7:20 pm

      I used photoshop to scale his face. The chin, the lips, the eyes, the nose, the brow ridge, the ears, and the hair, all the same. Same guy, just fat. Seriously. You think they’d let him wear a police uniform?

      I wouldn’t focus on Breivik any more, that’s what the MSM wants. Focus on the 2nd gunman. I uploaded some pics here:

      http://rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=26002&sid=db01eaa7058eb84cdff0298cde9e3c79

      They may or may nor prove anything, just interesting

    • Peter Wakefield Sault  July 28, 2011 at 5:08 am

      I used my brain and I would not be able to identify either Breivik from a picture of the other. You put far too much faith in mechanical devices.

  15. Peter Wakefield Sault  July 27, 2011 at 1:21 pm

    Apparently I am not alone in thinking there were two Anders Breiviks:-

    http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2011/07/breiviks-double.html

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