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Norway Notes – More Murder Arrests/Suppressed Car Bomb Video
Breaking Story:
The Second Tragedy is the Lies
By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor
“The attack in Oslo also came 65 years to the very day after the Israeli Irgun blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem”…Eileen Fleming
“On Monday morning, when Norwegian police were announcing they caught the “madman” and “lone gunman,” they already had a second killing, military uniforms, ski masks, already had a second gunman on the island and already knew that Breivik had been on a terror watchlist all along. Now the two other Sunday killers are identified, one still at large. Police complicity goes so much further than missing helicopters and leaky boats”… Gordon Duff
(The two videos below will show that the bomb was not in the square but rather at one end, at a building underpass. The explosion blew out that direction, causing huge damage only seen on the second video including what appears to be damage to water mains. The actual location of “ground zero” is never photographed but now discernible.)
Another video which supports Masonic theories but also contains key footage:
Remembering my manners and putting aside cheap journalism for humanity, the staff at Veterans Today offers its condolences and best to the families of the dead and the people of Norway. Every life is precious.
To those who profit from such things, the talking heads filling our TV screens with wild and self serving conjecture, Mr. Bolton, I am talking about you in particular, I wish you my absolute worst. As it turns out, the killer’s political views and maniacal rhetoric are identical to yours.
There have been so many of “you” out there, running your fat little mouths that we and our relatively unlimited resources are going to be taking a long hard look. We are now suspicious as hell.
Breaking:
Second Gunman “Disappeared?”
Tuesday, 3:32PM, “JihadWatch” still blaming Muslims for killings
Death count now 10 killed at Norway youth camp shooting; seven dead in Oslo bombing
Suspicion still revolving around jihad groups. “10 killed at Norway youth camp shooting; seven dead in Oslo bombing, police say,”
Two more killers identified, one arrested, one at large:
The arrested man has been in questioning by police Tuesday afternoon, but acknowledge after the prosecutor Karsten Monsen’s knowledge, no guilt in the case where a man was shot and killed in Lura. The suspect is the beginning of the 20-year (early 20′s) and announced through his lawyer when he realized that he was wanted.Also a man in his 30s has been charged with intentional murder, but police have not had contact with him (still at large). He is still wanted. Both individuals are based in Southern Rogaland.
Another Sunday Shooting in Norway
As the Norwegians are mourning the brutal deaths of scores inside the country, another shooting has reportedly left a male critically injured in the southwest.The 27-year-old victim was the target of a headshot in Sandnes on Sunday, Xinhua reported. He has been placed under medical care, but his condition is reportedly unstable.
Reports say two men in military fatigues knocked on his door, broke into the house and carried out the shooting. Police are looking for the two suspects. Witnesses also saw two men fleeing from the scene in a red Audi car.
More on this:(translated)
Police investigating a number of addresses in the hunt for the perpetrator, and this is one of them, confirming officer Nina Grande.Operations at Rogaland Police District, Silvie Didriksen Ravndal, according to Eve magazine that no one was arrested during the call out.
Witnesses told police that two people made their way into the house, fired one shot and then disappeared at about 19.50 on Sunday. Police lawyer Karsten Monsen said to Eve magazine that all indications are that it all happened very quickly and purposefully.
Terrified neighbors participated in the lifesaving until the ambulance came.
The man died later in the evening of his injuries in hospital. So far police have no suspects and no clear motive in the case.
Seven armed policemen moved Monday night to an address on Sandsletta in Sola municipality in connection with the murder of 27-year-old in Lura.
Known by the police
-We have received information that we work from, says Monsen, but will not elaborate on what this is. Around ten people from the police are working broadly with the murder case and have called for witnesses to the event and at a dark station wagon, possibly a Mercedes.
-Two people were in the car and disappeared into the car, said Karsten Monsen. Police prosecutor confirmed that the victim was known to police, but can not say how.
From a neighbor who was aware of the commotion in the street after the shot, get Eve magazine reported that the dead 27-year-old was first addressed by a friend. She and another woman from the neighborhood helped later in life-saving work.
Jerusalem Post: Norway Slaughter Done to Help Jews
‘Norway attack suspect had anti-Muslim, pro-Israel views’
1,500 page manifesto credited to Breivik, accused of killing spree, lays out
worldview including extreme screed of Islamophobia, far-right Zionism.
by Ben HartmanAnders Behring Breivik, the Norwegian who killed nearly 100 people in a combined terror attack Friday that included car bombings in Oslo and a shooting rampage at an island summer camp, held fiercely anti-Islamic and pro-Israel views, according to a 1,500 page manifesto he uploaded before his killing spree Friday.
In the 1,500-page tome, which mentions Israel 359 times and “Jews” 324 times, Breivik lays out his worldview, which includes an extreme, bizarre and rambling screed of Islamophobia, far-right Zionism and venomous attacks on Marxism and multi-culturalism. In one passage, he lashes out at the Western media, which he accuses of unfairly focusing on the wrongdoing of Jews.
“Western Journalists again and again systematically ignore serious Muslim attacks and rather focus on the Jews,” he wrote.
Breivik also took a jab at leftwing Jews.
“Jews that support multi-culturalism today are as much of a threat to Israel and Zionism as they are to us,” he continued.
“So let us fight together with Israel, with our Zionist brothers against all anti-Zionists, against all cultural Marxists/multiculturalists.”
He also stated that Israel is the homeland for Jews largely due to the persecution suffered by Jews at the hands of Muslims, saying “if one acknowledges that Islam has always oppressed the Jews, one accepts that Israel was a necessary refuge for the Jews fleeing not only the European, but also the Islamic variety of anti- Judaism.”
Glenn Beck, “Mr. Israel,” Justifies Killings – Dead Called “Hitler Youth”
Not the First Time:
Norway solves riddle of Mossad killing
Israel’s intelligence service, Mossad, acted without Norwegian help in a botched 1973 assassination in the ski resort of Lillehammer, a national commission concluded yesterday.
Norwegians have long speculated about involvement by their own police or intelligence service in the killing, which has been shrouded in secrecy for 27 years, and which has been a sore point in otherwise warm relations between Norway and Israel.
On July 21 1973, a team of Israeli hitmen shot dead a Moroccan waiter, Ahmed Bouchikhi, as he walked home from the cinema with his pregnant wife in the resort, 110 miles north of Oslo.
The assassins apparently mistook Bouchikhi for Hassan Salameh, a PLO intelligence chief suspected of masterminding the killing of 11 Israeli athletes at the 1972 Munich Olympics.
“This was much more than a murder,” said Gullow Gjeseth, head of the six-member government commission. “This was a violation of Norwegian sovereignty. It is a completely special case.”
In January 1996, Israel paid undisclosed compensation to Bouchikhi’s family but did not admit responsibility for the killing.”No one pays out compensation unless they are guilty,” Torill Larsen Bouchiki, widow of the murdered waiter, said yesterday.
Five suspected agents – Marianne Gladinkoff, who was born in Sweden; Sylvia Rafael, of South Africa; Israeli Abraham Gehmer; Dan Aerbel, who was born in Denmark; and Brazilian-born Zvi Steinberg – were convicted and jailed in Norway for the killing shortly after it took place. They were later pardoned.
According to the report, about nine others escaped from Norway, including the suspected leader, Michael Harari, a senior Mossad agent who has now retired. The commission said Norway did little to catch the suspects in the early 1970s. (Ed. Harari is a long time associate of VT staff, Dimitri Khalezov. Harari, on September 12, 2001, admitted responsibility for the planning of the 9/11 attacks on the United States. In 2007, this information was given to the FBI as direct evidence. )
“Barry Chamish-ophobia”
“Norway is a totally dysfunctional country. Last year there were almost 2700 rapes there and all the rapists were Muslim. So to get even, the country’s 2000 Jews live in a terror state, told not to wear kippas or appear too Jewish outside, for their own safety. And Norway is Israel’s number one enemy in the West, the premier organizer of Palestinian statehood today, and the promoters of the ghastly Oslo Accords of the ’90s. The disdain of Jews towards Norway was nowhere clearer to be seen as in the reports of its recent terror attacks.
The reports mourned Norway’s victims as much as the Norwegians shed tears over the 1500+ dead Israelis since their Oslo Accords took effect.” (Ed. I am flabbergasted. I can’t begin to think of an appropriate comment to this.)
Police Knew Killer
Despite being portrayed by the media as inept due to the length of time it took them to reach the island of Utoeya, it has now emerged that police knew the name of gunman Anders Behring Breivik before they even arrested him, a startling admission that prompted one of Britain’s top news anchors to question how authorities were aware of the gunman’s identity in advance.
During his Channel 4 News broadcast on Friday evening, host Jon Snow asked “why police knew the killer’s name by the time they had arrived on the island,” reported the Telegraph live blog.
“He surrendered the moment police called his name 3 minutes after they arrived. What we don’t know is how the police knew the terrorist’s name before they arrested him,” said Snow, who is recognized as one of Britain’s most trusted news anchors, and cannot be dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist”.
Oslo Explosion Origin “Unknown”
The Oslo blast, which was heard by people at least 7km away, caused extensive damage to a complex of government buildings housing the prime minister’s office and the ministries of finance, justice and petroleum. Police said it was most likely a car bomb, although this was not confirmed.
Warnings from the Israeli Press:
The judge also read short excerpts from the suspect’s statements, noting that he was only doing so in order to show the qualification for remand conditions applicable to terrror(sic) suspects. “The operation was not to kill as many as possible, but to send a strong signal that cannot be misunderstood,” the judge said, quoting Anders Behring Breivik.”As long as the Labor party keeps dragging its ideological line…mass importing Muslims,” the quote continued, “then any person with a consious(sic) cannot allow this to continue.” Calling himself a crusader against a tide of Islam in a rambling 1,500-page online manifesto, the 32-year-old mass murderer wants the opportunity to explain actions he deemed ‘atrocious’ but ‘necessary’.
Breivik has asked to wear a uniform in court, but his lawyer, Geir Lippestad, said he did not know what type. The killer was dressed as a policeman during his shooting spree. His lawyer said it was not clear what sort of uniform he wanted to wear. Breivik has not served in the armed forces but in some of the pictures he posted on the Internet before his killing spree he was dressed in a military-style outfit.
“He has been politically active and found out himself that he did not succeed with usual political tools and so resorted to violence,” Lippestad told TV2 news.
Anders Behring Breivik, the man being held for Friday’s shooting at an island off the coast of Norway, expressed anti-Islamic sentiments in English in the past and was an enthusiastic supporter of Israel, according to a Sunday-evening report by Channel 2 television. Breivik’s 1,500 page book attacks the European political establishment because he sees it as an ally of the Muslims against Israel, and praises Israel for not giving Muslims the same rights they enjoy in different European countries.
Breivik says, “The time has come to stop the stupid support of the Palestinians…and to start supporting our cultural cousins – Israel.” The sight of the massacre was a camp which demanded, days earlier, that Israel “finish the occupation.”
Alleged Killer Tea Party/Bachmann/Palin Fan
“We, the European Revolutionary Conservatives know very well that it will take many years, even decades before we successfully manage to consolidate to a degree where we can seize political and military power in the first Western European country. In the US, the Tea party movement is one of the first physical, political manifestations which indicate that there is a great storm coming. The creation of similar conservative organizations, even the creation of revolutionary conservative movements … is about to materialize.” From his manifesto…
Exclusive !!: May not have been car bomb
Veterans Today has received reports from sources in Oslo indicating that the bomb, now believed to be equal to more than 10 tons of TNT, was not a car bomb. Reports indicate that “sewer workers” had been accessing the site during the days prior to the explosion, which is now estimated, were conventional explosives to have been used, to have required enough “fertilizer slurry” explosive to have filled a rail car.
The explosion is estimated to resemble that of the Marine Barracks in Beirut in 1983, killing over 200 or the Oklahoma City bombing. There is considerable controversy in both of these attacks as to the explosives described and the results which far exceed the capabilities of the materials claim to have been used, in both cases by a degree of magnitude.
20 tons of fertilizer and fuel oil are unlikely to have fit into the boot of a typical European rental car, even with a “midsize upgrade.”
Car bombs use military grade explosives, not fertilizer bombs. Real car bomb video below. Explosion isn’t 1% of the Oslo blast:
6 More Arrested in Oslo
Police in Norway have arrested six more people in connection with Friday’s twin terror attack which killed at least 92 people.
Police carried out a raid on properties in Oslo earlier this morning. It is unclear why the raids are happening.
Acting Police Chief Sveinung Sponheim has said that “It’s very difficult at this point to say whether he was acting alone or whether he was acting as part of a larger network”.
1500 Page Manifesto “Cut and Paste” Phony
The 32 year-old appears to have quoted verbatim large sections from the preaching of Theodore Kaczynski in his 1500 page online rant.
Breivik had “copied and pasted” almost a dozen key passages from the 69 year-old’s 35,000 manifesto, only changing particular words such as “leftist” with “cultural Marxist”.
Norwegian police show their hand in terror coverup:
“A police official said the suspect appears to have acted alone in both attacks, and that “it seems like this is not linked to any international terrorist organizations at all.” The official spoke on condition of anonymity because that information had not been officially released by Norway’s police.
“It seems it’s not Islamic-terror related,” the official said (Ed. shooter was an Israeli supporter). “This seems like a madman’s work.”
Norwegian news agency NTB said the suspect wrote a 1,500-page manifesto before the attack in which he attacked multiculturalism and Muslim immigration. The manifesto also described how to acquire explosives and contained pictures of Breivik, NTB said. Oslo police declined to comment on the report.
More:
The group targeted during the shooting attacks was 600 members of the Norwegian Labor Party, which had called for a boycott of Israeli products and recognition of a Palestinian state, a group that had drawn considerable ire from Israel and its supporters, one of which was the shooter.
New questions:
A second shooter was reported by some survivors.
Initial reports that our “terrorist,” now said to be a farmer with unlimited access to tons of fertilizer to be used to make explosives, has one minor glitch to it. He is an organic farmer and would have had NO access to chemical fertilizer, certainly not tons of it sold to someone with well established ties to extremist organizations. An “invisible hand” seems to be operating here.The Norwegian Air Force operated/operates 20 helicopters nearby for search and rescue/hostage/counter-terrorism. Even without the high level terror alert status Norway was on because of threats tied to NATO involvement in Libya, marine rescue response would have demanded helicopters be “hot on the pad.” The police “excuse” that helicopters would take too long and driving out in hopes of finding a boat as a form of “counter-terrorism response” is not going to hold water.
The police uniform and credentials, the extremely poor response time, the shooters weapons skills, all point toward too many coincidences.
Norway has 20 of these nearby, some slated for emergency use, 5 minute response
Now that the “Muslim” terrorist story has done its damage, the second story is out, a “lone wolf,” right winger. This would make him fodder for an intelligence agency that would mold him into something to pull out of their bag of tricks when needed. Story two, the “right winger” has its own problems and its own smell.
The timing of this is all wrong, not just the timing but the scale.
Brevik with one of his "authorized" weapons, which included a silenced Glock with 30 magazines...in "weapon free" Norway (Is there such a thing as a "gay" rifle?)
The car bombing carries the signature of an intelligence agency. Nobody else bothers with such things. We had recent experiences in Abuja and prior to that in Alexandria.
Both of these were executed to promote strife between Christians and Muslims. The perpetrators of the Alexandria church bombing were Israeli.
As for Abuja, the story is more complicated, there are more players including one suspicious European intelligence agency. We will withhold judgment.
That the largest bombing in Nigeria was directly under my hotel window was an odd coincidence.
This one, this “thing” in Norway, this is sick. Our culprit bears a striking resemblance to Julian Assange of Wikileaks fame. Despite the love affair the “left” seems to have for Assange, Brevik and Assange are twins in more than one way, right wing politic. As for the resemblance, everyone has to notice, I wonder when someone else will mention it.
Lets come at this thing from a couple of directions.
First of all, the most obvious explanation is that a single individual, driven hopelessly insane on Freemasonry and Zionism, as some papers are reporting, went on a killing spree over what we expect will be a “paranoid delusion.” As with 9/11, we can expect a letter, a note of some kind, perhaps “friends” who will be selling this tale of a latter day Oswald. (written prior to the discovery of his “journal”..another good VT guess)
This is why I mention “scale.” This is where we are going to take a good hard look. Why wasn’t he stopped? Was that process interfered with, did he have some special knowledge that helped him? This reminds me too much of the untrained pilot who flew a plane at 600 mph into the Pentagon, striking at ground level but never touching a blade of grass, a feat that dozens of the best pilots in the world say is impossible, a feat that the best aeronautical engineers in the world say the plane never could have a accomplished without coming apart well before impact.
We do not believe “cover stories,” in fact, they are often the best evidence. Cover stories are usually much less clever than those who think them up imagine.
Means, motive and opportunity give us two primary suspects, Israel and Libya.
WAS HE HIS OWN ACCOMPLICE?
Given Weapons Training and Designated a "Good Citizen"
Israel has two difficulties with Norway that would be handled with a “false flag” terror attack. Certainly Anders Brevik, the suspect in custody could easily be managed in a number of ways, led, perhaps assisted, augmented as it were. Any intelligence agency can do such things. One probably did. Israel’s difficulties are:
- Norway’s national oil company has decided to boycott Israel because of the violence in Gaza. This is a huge issue with Israel, seen as a threat to their national security and is likely to draw a violent response. A car bomb near their oil company headquarters is very much a standard warning, “government to government” as it were. Adding the slaughter of children to it is a Mossad signature.
- All that might be found as a reminder is this 11 month old article from the Jerusalem Post:
Norway’s Ministry of Finance announced that the Norway Oil Fund divested from Africa-Israel Investments and Danya Cebus Ltd. on Monday.
The reason given is the companies’ construction in the West Bank.
The Norwegian Finance Ministry said, “The ethics council stresses that construction of settlements in the occupied territories violates the decision of the Geneva convention regarding defense of civilians during war time. Several decisions of the UN Security Council and the International Court of Justice have reached the conclusion that construction of Israeli settlements in the Palestinian territories is prohibited.”
- Norway is likely to vote for in favor of sanctions against Israel in the United Nations this September. Though America is expected to veto the initiative as the United States has done nearly 200 times before, there is a wrinkle this time that has not been there for years. Rupert Murdoch will not be able to work Israel’s corner, bribery, blackmail, propaganda, spying, the usual bag of tricks that are brought out for just such an occasion. Thus, a car bombing and the brutal slaying of scores of children, though they can’t be hung on Muslims as was the 7/7 London bombing, will or could act as a warning to Norway and others. In fact, there is no reason for this act to have occurred, not now, not there, not this severe, for any other reason than one.
That “one” is Libya and the warnings against NATO by Colonel Gaddafi.
Gaddafi is the most obvious suspect. He has made the threats. Here, Gaddafi threatens specifically to murder children in NATO Europe:
In an address relayed to some 100,000 supporters in Tripoli’s Green Square on Friday, Gaddafi urged NATO to halt its bombing campaign or risk seeing Libyan fighters descend on Europe “like a swarm of locusts or bees.”
Dressed as the "Chemical Warfare Ken" Doll
“Retreat, you have no chance of beating this brave people,” Gaddafi said.
“They can attack your homes, your offices and your families, which will become military targets just as you have transformed our offices, headquarters, houses and children into what you regard as legitimate military targets,” he said.
Normally, Gaddafi wouldn’t be considered a likely culprit. However, Norway does have a large Muslim population and Libyan agents have been very active in Norway. Norway is considered Europe’s “softest” target, perfect for Gaddafi.
Even more telling is that despite his recent threats to perform terror acts exactly as the ones we have seen, he has never been mentioned, particularly when the “neocon” press has gone on its Islamophobic way. Gaddafi was spared? Why, might we ask?
What if they both did it…
There are two things about Libya and Israel that are not commonly known.
They have been friends, when they have needed each other at least, for decades. It hasn’t been a perfect love affair, they have traded weapons technology, germ, chemical and nuclear, and have covered for each other.
Gaddafi insults Israel, threatens them and then calls up Israel and says “I didn’t really mean it.” This has been going on forever.
You can take two positions on America’s press. One, that it is totally controlled by Israel or, “two,” that those friendly to Israel control 90% of it.
The press hasn’t mentioned Libya as a possible “evildoer.” This may well mean Libya did it and Israel helped.
Another less known piece of information is Libya’s love affair with the Republican Party, George W. Bush and, in Britain, Tony Blair.
This may well be the real reason that Obama and Cameron are trying to kill Gaddafi.
It gets even worse. Gaddafi is represented, secretly as is allowed by law, in the US by Rudy Giuliani. Giuliani is one of Israel’s biggest friends.
The Norway attacks is a form of “two-fer” in that it serves both Libya and Israel equally.
The trail that supports this is circumstantial now. We said “now.”
Israel is famous for car bombs. Timing favors the Libyan threat and Israeli needs to intimidate.
The biggest “tell” is the news stories. Israel sent out her neocon surrogates in the media to push wild conspiracy theories involving Islamic militants.
Someone with the power to influence Israel’s friends in the press is covering for Colonel Gaddafi after his recent threat to stage an attack identical to the one we have seen.
What we can depend on?
Everything we hear from the mainstream media from now on will be a lie.
Post Script: I have only worked on this story today, having returned from holiday late last night. It is one thing, writing about the inconsistencies that pile up, the coincidences. It is quite another gaining the scope of what has happened. There is something uniquely personal about this story. It draws on a nightmare endemic to our species, that of being hunted down by a bloodthirsty predator.
That this person is still alive…
Here is what I hope; I hope all reading this feel sick inside. I certainly do.
I am going to continue following this and try to gain an increasingly accurate perspective, much with the help of readers who scour the media for me.
Thanks
As of now, we don’t have a “lone gunman.” Too much effort, far too quickly, has been made to sell that one.
Background:
Anti-Israel demonstrations in Norway during Euro Song
Israeli singer to contest in the Euro Song final in Oslo last Saturday in May.
There will be demonstrations against Israel during Euro Song in Oslo 29th of May.
The pro-Palestine committee in Norway has announced demonstrations outside the Euro Song arena in Oslo last Saturday on May. The reason is Israel, who is going to present the Israeli finalist.
«We want to close Euro Song for Israel. They are not welcome. We will request the European Euro Song TV-consortium to boycott nations that indulges in occupation and apartheid», is a statement from a press release from the organization.
During the 1st of May celebration in Oslo, the leader of the Pro-Palestine committee was invited to hold the major speech, juts after the Norwegian Labor Party leader Roald Flaaen.
The pro Palestinian committee has already convinced the Norwegian Labour party to boycott Israel in all levels:
Both political, cultural, military and economic.
The present Left right Government of Norway is considering boycott of Israel, but the Labor Party Leadership is holding back economic sanctions. The Norwegian Pension Fund has nevertheless already boycotted the Israel company Elbit Systems Ltd, by selling all its shares.
In regards to Euro Vision, the pro-Palestinian committee writes:
«The State of Israel uses their artists to whitewash and blur the occupational force inhuman politics. We will on the night of the event visually express that Israel is not welcome ».
Source: Norwegian Daily «DagenMagazinet».
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Something is rotten in the state of Norway! Why are we being given a load of complete rubbish by the media? What kind of fools do you take us for?
Let’s look at the story of the island.
We are told that a single lone gunman was able not only to control SIX HUNDRED fit, healthy young people, but that he also managed to kill over 80 of them.
To believe this, you have to live in a Hollywood paradise, where people fly through the air and are dead before they hit the ground, when hit by a bullet. Anyone who has ever served in the military anywhere on planet earth and engaged in a real firefight, will know that this is GARBAGE. People don’t die like that. The human body is remarkably resilient and difficult to kill. The ONLY ways to kill a person is to destroy the brain, requiring a head shot or to let him bleed to death and this takes time. The wounded could have been cared for by their colleagues or the killer would have to fire multiple rounds to ensure he or she was dead.
Even to best shot on earth, with the best rifle isn’t even going to be able to hit a running target anywhere, every time and to get a head shot on a running person just ain’t going to happen. At a very rough guess, even with the tooth fairy sitting on your shoulder, you would be VERY lucky to get even a 50% hit rate and any soldier will tell you that a 15% to 25% hit rate is more probable unless you are shooting at sitting ducks!
We are also led to believe that the man was carrying a sniper rifle. This would NOT be helpful when you are moving and shooting as the ‘scope would be a hindrance, not a help. To shoot at moving targets would require ‘point and pull’ and your hit rate will drop accordingly. “He was shooting all the time” one youth said on TV.
The pictures we are shown of the weapon are at best conjecture, but let’s look at a probable scenario and that is that the killer was carrying a 7.62 rifle, something like the FN MAG. The FN MAG weighs in at around 12Kgs. ONE 7.62 round weighs roughly 400gms, so even at 100% hit and kill rate he would also be carrying another 32Kgs ammunition and if we leave Disneyland for a while and take a more probable hit rate of say 25%, he would need around 300 rounds of ammunition weighing in at around 120Kgs. The police report says that he still had ammunition when he was caught. He must have been a candidate for the world’s strongest man to walk around calmly carrying the equivalent of another fully grown person with him. Don’t give us the BS that he killed people running away with a handgun, this outruns even a Hollywood fantasy!
Now we come to the second part of this saga. Around 600 healthy, fit, young people, descendents of the Vikings, made no efforts whatsoever to even attempt to stop this maniac or protect their colleagues and the womenfolk. Instead, they all ran away in abject terror!
This was a island filled with trees and plenty of cover, but none of these healthy, fit young people even thought to try to arm themselves with stones or make a catapult, a slingshot or to double back to the main building and collect knives, or bottles of petrol to make molotov cocktails. They did NOTHING execpt run away and jump into the sea.
It never occurred to them that he would have to reload and in that time he would be vulnerable to a barrage or stones or rocks and that he could have been tackled and brought down by just one of two young people, working as a team. Once again, I have to emphasize. THESE WERE NOT YOUNG CHILDREN, THEY WERE FIT, HEALTHY YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN
I’m sorry, but I live in a REAL world, not a Hollywood fantasy movie and the story we are being told makes NO sense at all. What we are going to hear about this in the future will probably have to be very carefully scripted. A Right-Wing, Christian Fundamentalist, who is a Freemason, an Organic farmer who buys ammonium nitrate fertilizer, a bomb which does the damage of a couple of tons of Anfo hidden in a car. Detonators, timers, 300 or more rounds of ammunition, a sniper rifle. Come on guys, pull the other leg, it’s got bells on it.
Whatever scripted story the Government, the media. the EU or whoever is pulling these strings comes up with, it isn’t going to do anything at all politically except prove to all the would-be terrorists out there that White Christian European people have been so brainwashed over the years, that they will do NOTHING to protect themselves.
For generations, we have been told that it’s WRONG to fight, WRONG to defend oneself, ones family or property. It’s WRONG to own a weapon. It’s WRONG to own a dog which may try to protect you, It’s WRONG to hurt anyone. It’s not only WRONG, but you can get life in prison for injuring or killing someone who is trying to cause you or your family harm. It’s WRONG to try to win at all costs “ït’s how you play the game!”. Only the meek will inherit the earth, Turn the other cheek. Negotiate, don’t fight. Not only have people been disarmed, they have been brainwashed NOT to even try to defend themselves as well.
Now we see then end result. I hope the media, the Governments and everyone out there is proud that 90 people allowed themselves to be killed or killed themselves by drowning without putting up any resistance at all. If just a couple of the people on that island had been carrying guns, 90 young men and women would still be alive. How crazy has this world become? “If owning a gun is criminal, then only criminals will own guns”.
I believe the answer to your comment lies in the first para – To believe this, you have to live in a Hollywood paradise – and thats what it is all about in MSM – a Hollywood virtual reality where the truth is an image and the image is conjoured up – the decepcion of photography/image that which is worth a thousand words but needs only to be looked at….of course it was a brazen act by the Israelis who know no boundary for their agenda – meanwhile the Hollywood paradise will supply the lies in pictures that will convince the masses who “dont want to know”…
when its too late, too bad.
Dear Bladur2630, Some of your stuff makes sense, right until the bit about the bullets, which is just crazy. Can you show me a 7.62 round (one bullet) that weighs almost one POUND? I just weighed a .303 British centrefire rifle cartridge and a .308 (7.62) cartridge. These are both equivalent to 7.62. Anyway, these cartridges ready to fire weigh 26 grams EACH. That’s 7.8 KG for 300 rounds. Also, an FN MAG is a light machine gun, roughly equivalent to a US M-60 and far heavier than any assault rifle. The killer had a rifle. I think your conjectures are way off, but please comment, especially on why you think a round of 7.62 weighs nearly a pound when it weighs closer to a troy ounce, or 31 grams. Again, 300 rounds of 7.62 would weigh about 8KG, not hard for a fit maniac to carry.
Bladur2630, why are you conjecturing that the killer used an FN MAG, a belt-fed machine gun instead of a rifle? Surely you’re not trying to muddy the waters with disinfo. Hollywood or not, nobody but Rambo would go on a 90 minute shooting rampage on foot with a bipod mounted, belt fed light machine gun. It does not make any sense.
Bullets and guns are not my area of expertise. But the ‘war against guns’ and against the ability to protect yourself is abhorrent to me. The “Fast and Furious” USA program to arm Mexican drug gangs in order to promote border violence against Americans and American law enforcement, all as a Machiavellian plan to demand ‘gun control,’ is now under Congressional investigation. I hope that investigation continues to the bitter end, right to fingering Obama in the White House. Now about being armed and ready, seven teenagers were mauled by a bear in Alaska over the weekend as they were on a survival course. Needless to say, they had no guns as they tramped through the wilderness. No one can survive anywhere in this world today without having a firearm and knowing how to use it.
I think I was too pissed off to be thinking clearly. Yes, the FN MAG weighs in at 12Kgs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_MAG, but the ammunition is .383gms NOT 383gms, so the 120Kgs is actually 12 Kgs, When I went to bed, it suddenly struck me that I had boobed on the ammunition weight, because I used to carry several hundred rounds when I was in the military. Sorry about that, it wasn’t disinfo, just being to pissed off to be rational!
Now, according the the latest disinformation, he was carrying a MACHINE GUN and not a sniper rifle as well as a handgun and he had explosive bullets. I just wish that we could see the post-mortem results, because I don’t believe a word of it. Do you think we will ever be told, what make / model the ‘machine gun’ was or what caliber ammunition or PROOF that he used ‘explosive’ bullets.
I’m not going to be conned into believing that this was the Jews again, but SOMEONE set this up very carefully and the exact reasons will soon become clear. I think one of the probabilities is to put discussing Islam into the same category as discussing the ‘Holocaust’ and to ban all so-called Right-Wing groups like the PVV, the BNP, the EDL and all other anti-immigration / anti EU Political Parties. I guess we’ll have to wait a few more weeks before we know for sure.
suspect he used ceramic 9mm
i know of no ‘dum dums’ in .556
the connection with the right wing groups….they have long worked very closely with israel….
israel sees them as a way of exploiting feelings against muslims and mitigating support for palestine
israel is extremely active with right wing groups in norway….long guided and financed…
the other issue is that the right wing groups long ago infiltrated the police…..and, in fact, are the police.
as in america
Here is a local article about his weapon:
http://translate.google.se/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gp.se%2Fnyheter%2Fvarlden%2F1.684007-omstritt-gevar-vid-dodsskjutningarna
(Picture: Rutger Mini 14)
http://www.gp.se/image_processor/1.684008.1311686645!/image/3567671709.jpg_gen/derivatives/wide/3567671709.jpg?maxWidth=440
That scope is extremly counterproductive, and what happend to the ‘gay’ m4-rifle he had in his PR-picture?
The man in the photo clearly loved being photographed in fancy dress. The gun is undoubtedly a repro (i.e. fake and useless). I love the way they call him a freemason because of his gay glittery turquoise apparel and a gunman because of the gun photo but they stop short at calling him the King of Norway (the third fancy dress photo).
I must say I am absolutely appalled at what I see on facebook and other places where idiots gather to exchange recipes and knitting patterns. I’ve lost count of the would-be murderers who would like to do in a man who has not been convicted of anything and likely never will be.
Sorry for being lazy and using the comment-section to communicate with you personally, but If you want or need a swedish translator or researcher of the local articles please ask me.
Thanks for all your hard work Gordon!
Ops, Swedish/Norwegian, I am fluent in both languages.
Dave
Keep watching the news there…..the US has begun suppressing even more than usual.
g
“Now, according the the latest disinformation, he was carrying a MACHINE GUN”
or THEY were carrying a machine gun
Thanks, Gordon.
Can you keep updating this page so that we have it all in one place.
Am on it, will ask Jim Dean to help.
g
Hardy har har har…Keep those updates coming, guys. The viral shot of Breivik with the rifle sure looks like a pretty obvious “head-on” photoshop to me. He’s not even looking in the eyepiece, or even at it. But as soon as I first beheld the second of the two head shots of “Der Perp” you posted last night, I was struck by a very uncanny resemblance to someone I couldn’t quite pin down. It was driving me crazy for a while. Then I just so happened to run into an article at “Prison Planet”, of all places, which you just recently linked to in another update above under “Police Knew Killer”, which features a head shot of Breivik in the back of a police car. Then it finally hit me. The sonofabitch looks exactly like a dead ringer for none other than, you got it- ALEX JONES!
http://www.prisonplanet.com/police-knew-gunmans-name-before-arrest.html
Hardy har har har! There’s your real terrorist! Go ahead look at it again. Can you deny it, Sault! This “beautiful man” of yours might have already transmuted into the Internationally renowned terrorist proprietor of “Prison Planet”, ALEX JONES!!
Funnily enough the same thought crossed my mind. Taking into account Gordon’s observation that Breivik looks like Julia Assange, we might concluded that Alex Jones is Julia Assange. However I still maintain that, unlike Jones/Assange, Breivik is innocent and has been framed.
Although I noted the Assange comparison, the bigger impression from that younger pic was that he was very like those boys so favoured by Lucian Freud.
Who knows. Maybe they do grow up to be Alex Jones.
Who is Lucian Freud?
(apologies for delayed response Peter. been away for a couple of days.)
Lucian Freud – painter. Deceased 20 July 2011. Age 88. Grandson of Sigmund, brother of Clement, thus uncle of Matthew, (a great grandson of Sigmund) who is married to Elizabeth Murdoch. Another great grandson is Baron David Freud.
IMHO http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2011/07/lucian-freud-boys-kray-twins-top-people.html
hardly begins to scratch the surface.
Ah yes, the Kravitsky twins. Following in the footsteps of their Babylonian forefathers.
He looks more like Sting than anyone else.
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You can not get good fruit from a diseased tree. Freemasonry, jewish satanism ( talmudism/ zionism) and homosexuality/feminism is the diseased tree. Untill that diseased tree is cut down and thrown in to the fire there can be no sucessfull attempt at restoring christian white civilization. You have to get the basics right and dispose of the enemy with in before victory on a larger scale is possible.
I see. Out of the fire and into the frying pan, eh?
Well, Steven, I certainly am glad I’m a heterosexual!
On the origins of EU “multiculturalism” in the ideas of the high level Austrian freemason Count Richard Coudenhove Kalergi see here:
http://balder.org/judea/Richard-Coudenhove-Kalergi-Practical-Idealism-Vienna-1925.php
Freemasons at the sub-33 degree level are controlled by and are wholly unaware of the machinations of the supra-33 degree level. The higher level masons are Jewish or philosemitic ( Shabaz Goi ) members of the Gentile elite. Both, like Kalergi, adhere to the doctrine of Jewish fitness for world rule.
The political terrorism that raged across Europe prior to WW2 was inspired by and plotted within masonic lodges. Check out the Serbian Black Hand and other groups. It was the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand by this group that actually ignited the genocidal killing spree that was WW1.
Who stood to gain from conflict on such a gigantic scale?
The same guys who seek to provoke WW3 and see now as a propitious time to do it.
It is not important but what are the American ribbons doing on his blue uniform coat?
Those Chinese can’t get anything right!
I’m impressed with Bladur 2630′s comments!
I was especially impressed with all the perceptive information Gordon presented – UNTIL he turned on his “Gaddafi-is-Evil (deserves to be killed)” rant. Gordon, you still haven’t provided us with those MANY AMERICAN Major Media News and opinion articles supporting and defending Gaddafi (all dictated by Israel, you say). I’ve not seen them yet. Not one. Yet the Zionists CONTROL what our media presents!
“Israel” didn’t immediately accuse the Palestinians of being involved either! Should we take that to mean the Palestinians are secretly working with Israel? What other Muslim counties has Israel immediately NOT yet blamed? All dupes of Israel? Gaddafi knew Norway was about to quit the NATO attacks, wouldn’t that please him? How do you reconcile the several “points” I just made? I
Gordon, I usually respect most of your stated views, but your personal vendetta against comical Gaddafi puzzles me. When you were once working for Gaddafi (you said), did he do something VERY “NASTY” to you personally?
Bladur2630 is way off on the probable mass of the ammo the killer would have needed carry. Grisly, yes, but accuracy is important in analysis of this tragic stuff. 7.62 rounds weigh 25-30 grams, not 400 grams. 300 rounds is less than 10 KG of ammo and would more than cover the damage he did.
Dick Fojut, I completely agree.
Gordon your perception and insight into these terrorist events is admirable and always worth reading but you are off on a misguided tangent regarding Gaddafi. Israel may have befriended him in the past but they have larger goals in line with the US and the elite. It is their habit to use people and causes and then throw them under the bus when not needed. Drop the Gaddafi bullshit. He’s done for. The west needs his billions much of which will end up in Israel.
Julian Assange’s resemblance to Brevik, you might want to know, is a factor I mentioned to my husband today over breakfast, before reading your article. The mind-control aspects to this false-flag attack are so obvious. I remember in the former Soviet Union, the general population had become so sophisticated that absolutely no one believed news releases from Moscow. Those people had finally smartened up. Now it’s time for the entire world to turn on the major media. It was refreshing to read that a French judge has demanded that two retired Scotland Yard chiefs be extradited from England to answer charges of withholding evidence in the murder of Princess Diana – namely, a handwritten note from her, before her death, in which she predicted being the victim of an assassination attempt in a phony auto accident. The note was kept for years in the safe of one of these stalwarts of “law-and-order”. It is also refreshing to read the testimony the woman who was attacked by DSK has given to ABC and Newsweek now. How quickly the news media fell in line against her, accusing her of prostitution, lying about the taped telephone call with someone in jail in another state (the conversation was in a language which no one had translated at the time her reputation was savaged). Here is an immigrant who admittedly worked the system to provide a decent life for herself and her daughter. Breaking the law for members of the elite is a lifestyle. Remember that fact before you cast the first stone at people who are just trying to survive – like the people who first came to America, by the way. The elite get a pass. They not only manipulate the rules in their own favour, they kill people. Brevik supposedly was “without mercy”. But his masters are the ones who have no semblance of humanity left. They are vermin.
The UK judiciary and senior police are infested with freemasons. Real ones, not joke ones in party outfits like the alleged Anders Breivik. At the time of Diana Spencer’s and Dodi Fayed’s murders, the British Grand Master was the late Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother, as she was known. No guessing where the order for Spencer’s murder had to have come from, nor why UK policemen seek to hide the truth about it.
“the British Grand Master was the late Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother, as she was known”
You have some verifiable evidence of this, Pete?
Robbo
Most Mighty and Most Excellent Princess Elizabeth, Queen Dowager and Queen Mother, Lady of the Most Noble Order of the Garter, Lady of the Most Ancient and Most Noble Order of the Thistle, Lady of the Imperial Order of the Crown of India, Grand Master and Dame Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order upon whom had been conferred the Royal Victorian Chain, Dame Grand Cross of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire, Dame Grand Cross of the Most Venerable Order of the Hospital of St John, Relict of His Majesty King George the Sixth and Mother of Her Most Excellent Majesty Elizabeth The Second by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith, Sovereign of the Most Noble Order of the Garter
Oslo attack falling on the exact day of the 65th anniversary of the King David Hotel bombing, and those “terrorists” are celebrated in Israel.
Igroun killed 91 people in this hotel in 1946 and injured 45 people. It is a coincidence ???
Just a pure coincidence, in the same way that
-911 is the emergency services number in the U.S.
- George Bush snr had given a speech on the creation of a ‘New World Order’ exactly ten years prior to 9/11
- there was a terrorist attack ‘exercise’ taking place in London on the same day as the 7/7 attacks, with the SAME underground stations involved
- the police officer in overall charge of the investigation into 7/7 has subsequently been found to have been receiving bribes from News Internation
- multiple 9/11 truth campaigners and witnesses have had fatal car accidents in which no other vehicle was involved
- three steel framed high rise buildings collapsed as a result of fire on 9/11, when NONE had ever collapsed in such a way before anywhere in the world
etc etc etc
i didn’t belive in coinsidence
[...] et d’organisation dans les crimes ne peut pas être le fait d’un homme seul. Selon Gordon Duff de Veteran’s Today, » l’attentat porte la signature d’une agence de [...]
[...] via Norway Notes – Updated | Veterans Today. [...]
May God save our soul
How can something which does not exist save something else which also does not exist?
Perez called Norway that “Most antisemitic contry of west “
Perez the terrorist, do you mean?
[...] CONTINUED HERE [...]
This is interesting. Excerts from the article:
Norway: “We will not be Naive” – A Watershed Moment
Divide and Conquer.
“White Pride” vs. “Muslim Honor” and the “State” vs. “Extremists” of all stripes.
Not satisfied with the pace of self-destruction on earth – Zionists have decided to speed it up by staging a hellish massacre of macabre proportions against one of the last independent nations on earth, literally crushing it from within, then furnishing its remaining enemies – White Nationalists and Muslims – with a step-by-step manual that pits them against each other.
How convenient.
A recipe for world war and implosion of the multicultural state all at once.
Kill two birds with one stone.
Bladur2630 said .. “The FN MAG weighs in at around 12Kgs. ONE 7.62 round weighs roughly 400gms, so even at 100% hit and kill rate he would also be carrying another 32Kgs.”
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Now, we all know this is an act against young people who supported withdrawing Libya August 1st, a party which recognized certain musicians as agents of a certain country spreading bs; we all know that 1 round is about 1 ounce or 39 grams, 20 = .8 kg not as you wrote. The FN weighs at most 6kg. So there is some math issues here, but we see Libya or Palestine are the LAST guilty nations on the list.
Do some homework, this is Port Arthur all over again.
http://frontpagemag.com/2011/07/20/the-quislings-of-norway/
While the Gaddafi – Israeli connection cannot be completely ruled out, it makes little sense given Norway’s position on shutting down its NATO participation in Libya by August 1/11. Gaddafi’s threats have always been empty hypothetical threats. While he may appear to be somewhat of a caricature, there is no doubt that he is crafty, and capable of being a spoiler.
The biggest clue to me, however, is the political ramblings of the “shooter”. On one hand he chastises political parties for being to lenient on Muslims. He speaks of one political party, the Progress Party, being the paltform for his views, but expresses concern that they will be sabotaged or torpedoed. His actions have certainly done that. On the other hand, he ignores the relatively recent police study that attributes 100% of the gang rapes of Norwegian women to non-Europeans who appear to be middle-Eastern types. Some of the victims have committed suicide. Running with that theme would have a greater impact in promoting his views that blowing up buildings and shooting young people.
MK Ultra anyone?
“Barry Chamish-ophobia”
“Norway is a totally dysfunctional country. Last year there were almost 2700 rapes there and all the rapists were Muslim. So to get even, the country’s 2000 Jews live in a terror state, told not to wear kippas or appear too Jewish outside, for their own safety.
Can anyone confirm the 2700 rapes were all by muslims? ???? mind blast fact ?
I don’t know about 2700, but the Norwegian police reported in April 2010 that all of the 41 gang rapes in the previous 3 years were perpetrated by non whites.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7t5ZffkA0A
Excerpts from After Oslo: Time to Crack Down On Mossad Terrorism
Wayne MADSEN (USA) | 25.07.2011 | 09:05
The Barack Obama-appointed U.S. ambassador in Oslo, Barry White, who is Jewish and received a 2005 award from the pro-Israel American Jewish Committee, complained that the Norwegian Police Security Service (PST) rejected two twelve-person British MI-6 intelligence surveillance teams to monitor an “Al Qaeda” cell in Norway. Last November, the Norwegian government was shocked to learn that the U.S. embassy was operating a Surveillance Detection Unit in Oslo that was monitoring Norwegian citizens. Norwegian Justice Minister Knut Storberget said he was not informed of the presence of the U.S. spy unit in Oslo, which employed retired Norwegian police and intelligence officials. The Norwegian Data Protection Commissioner, Bjorn Erik Thon, said he had never seen such an intelligence operation in Norway. White complained that Norwegian security officials were apathetic and incompetent in dealing with the Islamist “terrorist threat.” The failure of the Norwegian SWAT team to quickly respond to the massacre on Utoya may indicate that Norway’s law enforcement and security networks and command-and-control systems had been interfered with by infiltrators with knowledge of the Norwegian systems. Those retired police and intelligence officials working for the U.S. embassy’s surveillance unit are likely suspects in sabotaging the Norwegian police reaction capabilities on 7/22. Just 48 hours before the bombing in Oslo, police units were engaged in a terrorist bombing exercise at the Oslo Opera House, near what would later be “ground zero.” In addition, in the days before the terrorist bombing, there was suspicious sewer work being conducted in the area near the Prime Minister’s office.
After Israel offered assistance to Norway, including forensic and medical assistance, as well as the evacuation of the wounded from the 7/22 attack, Norway declined the offer. The rejection of assistance from Israel indicates that the Norwegian government was suspicious of the offer from Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak.
Mossad is a master at false-flag terrorist attacks designed to alter perceptions and punish opponents of Israeli policy. The fingerprints of Israeli intelligence are all over the 9/11 attacks on the United States, the 3/22 train bombings in Madrid, the 7/7 transit bombings in London, and, now, the 7/22 attacks in Norway… While the Israeli-influenced corporate media has droned on and on about the dangers of Islamist terrorism, it is now obvious that the major threat to public safety comes from the State of Israel, a rogue nation that does not hesitate to murder the innocent to achieve its sordid political aims.
Brian: It’s very suspicious the Norway SWAT team took so long to respond to the killings on the island.
One of the police boats had a motor that died right away. Sabotage?
They concocted the story of the mechanical failure up to explain why it took them so long to get there.
If there’s one facet to this episode which directly affects all of us its the corruption of state police entities. The police are the closet link between the Zionist oligarchs’ power structure and the world’s citizens. Through a variety of conduits money flows from their coffers or that of corrupted political systems into law enforcement apparatus worldwide. It is that unspoken culture of corruption which blinds officers from their sworn duty, silences those who are resistant, and directly facilitates acts of true terror against the citizenry. Because of this corruption rights are trampled, political activism is chilled, and every non-compliant citizen becomes in the eyes of the state a potential enemy. Truth be told one my own flesh and blood kin is an unwitting part of this. He cannot or will not allow himself the smallest measure of intellectual freedom necessary to see what is right in front of his face. Much like the situation with the corporate-run media, it’s a state of affairs that left uncorrected will serve as a perpetual enabler of mankind’s enslavement.
It’s called freemasonry, Snoopy.
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[...] What we can depend on? Everything we hear from the mainstream media from now on will be a lie. ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/07/23/norway-notes/ [...]
What a disgrace, this whole thing has MOSSAD written all over it!
These Zionists will stop at nothing to gain the power of every country.
They are so strong now, people so afraid of them: people now fear
them more than they trust God.
Not me, Mr. Duff. I will DIE a 1000 deaths before I’ll betray my country or
my Lord. A coward dies endlessly, a brave man or women can only die
once.
DWC
Let me get this straight. You don’t like Jews but you love their fake god. What kind of madness is that?
[...] Mike Harari, who escaped Norwegian police in 1973, after murder charges were leveled against him for killing an innocent Muslim he misidentified as a terror suspect, is the same Mike Harari who confessed to organizing the 9/11 [...]
Glenn Beck. a real scum bag !!
You compare the camp to Hitler Youth. How about this camp , how different is it really.
http://www.jewishcamp.org/
[...] The Second Tragedy is the Lies (Highlights) [...]
[...] disastrous impact on ‘Western culture’ or on ‘democratic values’ any time soon. Gordon Duff wrote yesterday in “Veterans Today” that the “car bombing carries the signature of an [...]
[...] The attack in Oslo also came 65 years to the very day after the Israeli Irgun blew up the King David…. [...]
“Harari is a long time associate of VT staff, Dimitri Khalezov”
Is that the same Dimitri Khalezov who has worked to divide the 9/11 truth movement with his absurd tales of mininukes at the WTC and Russian missiles at the Pentagon?
Khalezov also invented the report about the 345 dead first responders, multiple myloma..or was it the New York Department of Health?
Mixing a bit of truth with the lies is a classic disinformation technique.
There is nothing organized about Khalezov.
Best follow the evidence, which supports some of Khalezov’s critical conclusions…and ignore the others.
g
I must have missed some of his conclusions, then, because the only ones I have seen are bs.
Peter
We are on the same email list. Divide? Movement?
Calling 9/11 truth a fiasco would be kind.
g
The 9/11 truth movement is badly compromised – infiltrated and manipulated by Zionists. It’s a tragedy but it’s a fact.
sadly true…so very true
g
Too true. However, I can totally demolish Khalezov’s Granit missile hypothesis.
As you know, or should, the airplane which overflew the Pentagon after knocking down the lamp-post carried on in a straight line, overflying the Capitol and Porter Goss’s 09:30 press conference. The missile arrived at the Pentagon 30-40 seconds later. This scenario corroborates and is corroborated by Lloyde England’s testimony to the Survivors’ Fund Project.
Now, BEFORE the missile was launched, it would have been necessary for observers to confirm that all hazards (the lamp-posts) had been cleared from the approach path of the missile. Observers probably sitting in cars on Route 27 as part of the artificial traffic jam to which Mike Walter was a party. So, it would take 10-20 seconds for positive confirmation of a clear path to reach the launch site on the Army & Navy Country Club golf course behind the Navy Annex (where Gen. Thomas E. White, then Secretary of the Army, was having breakfast) from the Pentagon. It would then take 10-15 seconds for the missile to travel the less than two miles to the Pentagon. If it was a cruise missile then that is why its rocket motor booster was still firing on impact. We know there was a rocket motor involved because of the amount of smoke and, more subtly, because of the detectable illumination of the background. That last item proves it. This makes it impossible for the missile to have been launched from any greater distance, so Granit missiles launched from submarines in Chespeake Bay are OUT.
Now, why don’t you let Mr Khalezov defend his nonsense for himself instead of being his
undeserved knight in shining armor?
Peter,
Not a flawed analysis, I admit.
g
Glenn Beck is an employee of Rupert Murdoch.
My condolences to the many victims of this ghastly, heartless attack.
The media is reporting that the killer says he acted alone …as far as he was concerned anyway. Other reports have eyewitnesses saying they saw two shooters, in different locations, one with dark hair. If both reports are true then that would suggest that the “lone gunman” was part of a larger operation. It may also indicate that the narrative surrounding the killer is some kind of fabrication, produced by said larger operation, perhaps.
Despite the long tail being attached to the affair by the unfolding story, I continue to harbour suspicions that this incident has a more recent origin.
Update:
In another surprising development in the case, the other member of the masked duo has also surrendered to police.
He claims that there was no intent to shoot Pakistani man, that he and his companion only visited the victim’s home in order to rob him when events got out of hand and the firearm discharged accidentally!
… Eve magazine is known that in the criminal community claimed that the murder was not a planned assassination. Apparently the shot have gone off accidentally in the two men would carry out a robbery of the deceased.
We keep all options open when it comes to motive, say police lawyer Monsen.
He will still not be excluded that there may be more arrests in the case.
- I can not and will rule out anything, said prosecutor Karsten Monsen to Aftenbladet.no.
Monsen also confirms that the 36- year-old has had a connection with the Bandidos, but he does not want to elaborate … at this time. …
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&u=http://www.aftenbladet.no/lokalt/sandnes/–Drepte-ikke-27-ringen-med-vilje-2844202.html
More news from Norway.
Published: July 25, 2011 (15:50) Updated: July 26, 2011 (9:33)
… The woman says that the friend conveyed that two assailants came right into the basement apartment and fired a shot in the head at close range. They should have been unrecognizable because they were masked. They were dressed in “army clothes”. …
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3Daftenbladet%26hl%3Den%26&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=no&twu=1&u=http://www.aftenbladet.no/lokalt/sandnes/Ingen-pgrepet-i-vpnet-aksjon-2841214.html
I wonder if the victim had dark hair…
He obviously knew something that somebody didn’t want anybody to know.
In a sequel to the above mentioned execution style murder, a man who claims to have been innocently involved in the affair has turned himself in! Says he didn’t know his Bandido* friend intended to execute the man. Says as far as he was concerned, they went to visit the victim in order to purchase some cocaine. He hasn’t as yet provided any explanation as why they were both wearing masks.
… – He says he has nothing to do with the killing. He had quite different intentions of the visit of 27-year-old. He said it would buy the cocaine, …
… Police have called for a man with connections to the Bandidos after a 27 year old Pakistani citizen, was apparently liquidated in Sandnes, Norway Sunday night. …
http://www.aftenbladet.no/lokalt/sandnes/Mann-med-Bandidos-tilknytning-etterlyst–2842326.html
* For those not familiar with Bandidos, they are a type of mutual support brotherhood that has been designated by the USDOJ as an outlaw motorcycle gang (OMG). It has branches in 13 nations, with approximately 90 chapters in the United States, 90 in Europe, and 17 in Australia and Southeast Asia. It was established in Texas in 1966 by Don Chambers. Its motto is, “We are the people our parents warned us about”.
OMGs are highly structured criminal organizations whose members engage in criminal activities such as violent crime, weapons trafficking, and drug trafficking. …
http://www.justice.gov/criminal/ocgs/gangs/motorcycle.html
GLENN BECK A REAL SCUMBAG
Gordon Duff thanks again for the real news,
Live long & prosper,May the Force be with you
Can we defeat the indoctrinated/propaganda/brainwashing
“Terminal Endtime Madness”
Thanks for continuing to update this! There is enough evidence to derail this ‘lone wolf’ nonsense. Things like the manifesto are a strawman intended to fuel debate over Breivik so people ignore everything else.
The shooting of the 27-year-old is most certainly related. The shooters were wearing military fatigues, rang the door bell, and shot the guy dead in the presence of his father and a friend. Then they left. This is a Mossad-style assassination. Guns and murders like this are uncommon in Norway. Notice how they’re not giving up his name? I actually saw this report DISAPPEAR from a couple MSM sites.
Noticing a lot of the additional arrests are disappearing with not follow-ups to indicate why
A New Zealand girl is among the missing victims. They released names of the missing victims but the New Zealand girl is absent. Why are they protecting her identity? Mossad loves New Zealand passports. Is she Mossad? Also, two missing ‘adults’ were working as guards and they are not in the missing people report either. This contradicts the earlier ‘one guard’ thing.
What happened to the guy with the reddish dark hair arrested near the PM of Norway with a ‘knife’? He put up no resistance and smiled. What about those six guys in their underwear? Not a single media story was consistent. They either said they were arrested or questioned, had access to chemicals which were reported to be harmless, said to be a part of the campers and in their underwear still from swimming 72 hours earlier, and released with no evidence for some reason. Really? Who were they? Were they really released? The police raided and roped off the place they arrested them at. There were pictures.
There is still nothing linking Breivik to the bombing. NOTHING! Except he bought chemicals from Poland.
It would be a good idea to save all related webpages to disk when viewed, before they can disappear into the memory hole.
That’s a great idea
I always do it. Critical pages can no longer be retrieved from archive.org because the REAL freemasons (and other gangsters of the zionist persuasion) want to keep rewriting history.
Yes. I was wondering about this. And the happy coincidence that John Key, Prime Minister of New Zealand was right there with Obama for the Oslo/Utoya statement. And the current controversy in New Zealand over the ‘unusual circumstances’ around the Israeli ‘back-packers’ at the time of the Christchurch earthquake. And did I mention that Key is jewish, a strong supporter of Israel and among other interesting career moves, was with the FEC at the Fed.
What were the kiwis thinking.
Do New Zealanders do any more thinking than anyone else? Apparently not.
I read the other day that it is a law of psychology that only 2% of people think, 8% think they think and the rest wouldn’t be caught dead thinking.
Same question applies to the Japanese putting Mossad in charge of “security” at Fukushima.
I’ll like to see a fact-based analysis in order to reveal what exactly transpired in Norway, an effort along the same lines as AE911 Truth.
As a former infantryman of long service if there’s one thing I shall never forget its the sheer weight of a combat load of .556. That considering the difficulty of hitting a moving person, especially a young person running for his or her’s life unencumbered by combat gear and in a wooded area to boot, tells me it’s just plain impossible for this guy to have acted alone! Especially considering his civilian status. Weekends at the range or in the woods does not prepare you in terms of skill and stamina to the level required to even consider this guy as a viable lone actor.
Assuming Breivik used a firearm in .556, and considering the number of killed and wounded, hitting 90 people that must have started running for their lives at some point must have involved HUNDREDS of rounds of ammo, especially for an untrained nut lone wolf.
typo, 5.56 not .556
The BBC just reported that the Norwegian police now claim that they couldn’t use their helicopter because they have only the one and the crew was on vacation that day.
Just like G.W.Bush couldn’t do his job because he and his upside down pet goat (Baphomet, a favorite of Satanists) were “on vacation” at the time.
Peter
Go back and see BOTH videos.
think NORAD
You’re right. I’m only reporting what the BBC (i.e. MI6) just said.
Which videos, by the way? I suspect I have seen neither. I did download the “car bomb” video and can only conclude that office windows in Norway are made from Hollywood sugar crystal. (For the uninitiated, that’s how so many Hollywood movie characters manage to crash bodily through so much armor plate glass off which they would, in real life, simply bounce.)
Ok – got both videos. I see the authors of the second are still under the probably mistaken impression that Breivik really was a freemason as opposed to a clothes fetishist who liked fancy dress. Once again, if you look at the real freemasons they are not wearing glittery lime green outfits. Their rags are of a much higher quality than what I perceive to be Breivik’s fancy dress.
“The BBC just reported that the Norwegian police now claim that they couldn’t use their helicopter because they have only the one and the crew was on vacation that day.”
And we’re supposed to believe there’s no shift rotation staffing in order to accommodate routine vacations.
There’s only one crew and they had the day off…right.
They’ve changed their story yet again and now the helicopter crew was off on vacation for a whole month. In Israel, I would imagine, getting their photos taken in secret by Mossad while they are engaged in party games with child sex slaves. Just like the US Congress.
Wasn’t that the same junket that NORAD was on for 9/11?
The photo of Breivik wearing a Freemasonry apron is legit. As initially reported (and never elaborated upon by the MSM) he was a third degree Freemason from the Grand Lodge of Norway. They go higher than three degrees. A statement was released on their official website:
“I am appalled by the terrible crime has been committed in the government quarter and the Utøya, says the Norwegian-order Masonic Grand Master, Ivar A. Skar.
We think with sorrow and compassion for those who have been affected and their relatives.
It has emerged in the media that the accused has been a member of the Norwegian Order of Freemasons. He is now excluded with immediate effect.
Exclusion is an expression of the acts he is accused of having carried out and the values that appear to have motivated them is completely incompatible with what we stand for that order.
We build our business on the Christian and humanist values and want our members to contribute to the promotion of charity, peace and goodness in people.
The police will of course get all the help and information we can help with.”
Website is frimurer.no and you should throw it in Google translator
Oh right! Now we can believe freemasons – especially of the “humanist christian” variety (how does that work exactly?). Freemasons are lying, cheating, thieving gangsters. The Rothschilds, for example, are freemasons. What has happened is that I (and perhaps others) have expressed doubt about the party fancy dress worn by Breivik version 2. So they have wheeled out the chief mobster himself.
Gosh. Are we likely to be graced with a similar statement from his British (superior) counterpart.
Although, I am mildly curious with regards to historical reverberations. One that came to mind was those stories from 1188 and whatever it actually was that necessitated all that fabled furious chopping of firewood at Gisors. Concurrently, there was the ‘Norwegian Civil War’, centered apparently on Sverresborg aka Zion aka Sverre’s contemporaneous mock-up of David’s castle in Jerusalem.
I don’t suppose any of this has to do with attempts to steer a course towards that fabled future reverberation, the ‘New Jerusalem’.
Ah yes. The rebuilding of the Egyptian Temple of Sol-Amon (= Amon-Ra) on the Jerusalem acropolis. The freemasons are drooling over that one.
JihadWatch thread from July 22, gotta read it
“Suspicion still revolving around jihad groups.”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/07/death-count-now-10-killed-at-norway-youth-camp-shooting-seven-dead-in-oslo-bombing.html
The comments are mint.
“The massacre at the children’s camp is a sickening reminder of just how evil and Satanic the cult of Islam is. The attack is reminiscent of the massacre at the Russian school, though in this case without the rapes and enforced urine drinking.”
“We should never jump to conclusion that muslims are involved in this until we are all dead.”
“Ah targeting kids…yep, Muslims.”
Nope. Christian Zionist fanatic.
“Christian zionist fanatic”? Seems to me that YOU are the one jumping to conclusions, Snoopy. If you think about it you will realize that there is absolutely no evidence to support such an inane conclusion.
Don’t get me wrong, Snoopy. I’m neither christian nor zionist. I can’t wait for them all to get raptured into outer space. Hopefully they’ll take all their beloved Jews with them at the same time. It’s just that I’ll believe it only when I hear Anders Breivik say it out of his own mouth and not a moment sooner. But that’s not going to happen, is it? Breivik is being held incommunicado and has been deprived of his right to be heard. That is the most suspicious part of it all.
That seems to be the case with all suspects of major “terror” incidents. They are sequestered away while the state speaks for them, supposedly to avoid the interjection of politics by the accused (while the political commentary on part of these same organizations is shoved in our face 24/7). Their trials are not televised, media access to the accused is severely constrained to select groups and individuals, if allowed at all. It causes one to pause and question the whole bill of goods being offered.
OTOH the corporate media and government PR seemingly revels in turning products of a morally bankrupt society who kill family members or rape and dismember their victims into pop culture celebrities.
As to the question of religious ideology the “Christian Zionist” category seems to fit this guy, the fact that the media is downplaying his alleged religious views and focusing on the quasi-Nationalist political (and any real Nationalist will affirm that killing their own is the last thing they’ll contemplate) tells me the mold fits.
But hell, who really know with all the spin and photoshopping?
PWS, from his manifesto (plagiarized or not):
http://www.scribd.com/doc/60740932/2083-a-European-Declaration-of-Independence
Page 1167:
“Were the majority of the German and European Jews disloyal? Yes, at least the so called liberal Jews, similar to the liberal Jews today that opposes nationalism/Zionism and supports multiculturalism. Jews that support multiculturalism today are as much of a threat to Israel and Zionism (Israeli nationalism) as they are to us. So let us fight together with Israel, with our Zionist brothers against all anti-Zionists, against all cultural Marxists/multiculturalists. Conservative Jews were loyal to Europe and should have been rewarded. Instead, he just targeted them all… So, are the current Jews in Europe and US disloyal? The multiculturalist (nation-wrecking) Jews ARE while the conservative Jews ARE NOT.”
From his definitions of the principles of the Vienna School of Thought, which he is a believer in:
Page 1238
“Pro-Israel (pro-Zionism/Israeli nationalism, supports the deportation of Muslims from the West Bank and the Gaza strip)”
Page 1366
“Also, in my experience, those who disapprove of Israel’s right to exist are either anti-Semites or suffer from very poor judgment. Sensible people should support Zionism (Israeli nationalism) which is Israel’s right to self-defence against Jihad.”
From Personal Facts page:
Page 1399
“Religion: Christian, Protestant but I support a reformation of Protestantism leading to it being absorbed by Catholisism. The typical ―Protestant Labour Church‖ has to be deconstructed as its creation was an attempt to abolish the Church
Religious: I went from moderately to agnostic to moderately religious”
Page 1405
“My parents, being rather secular wanted to give me the choice in regards to religion. At the age of 15 I chose to be baptised and confirmed in the Norwegian State Church. I consider myself to be 100% Christian. However, I strongly object to the current suicidal path of the Catholic Church but especially the Protestant Church. I support a Church that believes in self defence and who are willing to fight for its principles and values, at least resist the efforts put forth to exterminate it gradually. The Catholic and Protestant Church are both cheering their own annihilation considering the fact that they embrace the ongoing inter-faith dialogue and the appeasement of Islam. The current Church elite has shown its suicidal face, as vividly demonstrated last year by the archbishop of Canterbury’s speech contemplating the legitimacy of Shariah in parts of Britain.”
There is no evidence whatsoever that Anders Breivik had anything at all to do with the “Manifesto”.
There is no evidence whatsoever that Anders Breivik was ever on that island. Where is the police video of the capture? More importantly, where is Anders Breivik himself?
Have you learned nothing from the past ten years of Jewish terrorism, starting with 9/11? Did you not see how every government from the President on down to the Pentagon police lied through their teeth about it again and again and again and are still doing so?
It it just me or do some of these photographs of Anders Behring Breivik in outfits look fake? They look photoshopped.
The “marxist hunter” badge looks as if it was photoshopped on. However, I don’t think they are even the same man as the one in the facebook pics. Moreover, they are all over the Internet but who can tell us where they came from?
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Hi; Shalom/Salaam (derived from THREE identical CONSONANTS, the S-L-M of Aramaic/Hebrew and Arabic origin) that stands for PEACE!
JIHADWATCH, also “chick dot com” which is very much anti-Islam and anti-Vatican are run by IDIOTS!
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What’s up with keeping Breivik in isolation for the next two months?
Is that how long it takes to use a combination of mind-altering drugs and psychiatry to drive someone insane so the judge can rule he’s mentally unfit for trial, then it’s off to a guarded mental facility, never to be seen or heard from again?
This is similar to the Ft. Hood massacre. It’s been about 21 months since and yet no trial for the alleged shooter?
If it’s like the feds and the MSM told us repeatedly, that it was a ‘lone gunman,’ Hasan, then why the long delay in bringing him to trial?
Maybe Hasan’s training as a psychiatrist is helping him resist the brain-washing and making him a tough nut to crack?
And where’s the ‘blast crater’ if it was a car bomb on the building’s exterior?
“And where’s the ‘blast crater’ if it was a car bomb on the building’s exterior?”
The second video demonstrates the car bomb was constructed as a giant “bouncing betty”, which propelled itself five stories high and then horizontally into the building…
You’d think the Rothschilds would change the pattern of their Hollywood-produced terrorism, wouldn’t you? But no, it’s the same old same old every time. I think they want us to know it’s them. I’ve heard that’s the way with criminals. They want to be admired for their “work”.
[...] Mike Harari, who escaped Norwegian police in 1973, after murder charges were leveled against him for killing an innocent Muslim he misidentified as a terror suspect, is the same Mike Harari who confessed to organizing the 9/11 [...]
Indeed, there are two different Facebook profiles for Breivik, one from before the massacre and one from after.
The latter profile appears to have been embellished and deliberately altered to emphasize the notion that the gunman was motivated by his “Christian conservative” beliefs.
Compare the two profiles below (click to enlarge). The first one in Norwegian was deleted minutes after Breivik’s identity became public. The second profile in English appeared after the original was deleted, and became the de facto profile of the killer.
http://static.prisonplanet.com/p/images/july2011/250711facebook1.jpg
http://static.prisonplanet.com/p/images/july2011/250711facebook2.jpg
“Several things have been doctored up to alter the suspects political views. First a section titled “Philosophy” has been added to include “Christian,” and “Conservative.” The media has used this to great lengths,” notes the Council of Conservative Christians website.
In the second profile, Breivik’s interest in Winston Churchill and Max Manus, the leader of the Norwegian anti-Nazi resistance, have been deleted, presumably because they don’t fit with the psychological profile that Breivik was a right-wing neo-Nazi who had links with the English Defence League.
There was clearly manipulation surrounding Breivik’s Facebook page after the attack. As Madison Ruppert notes, “Someone was active on Breivik’s Facebook accepting friend requests after the massacre took place.” People were also tricked into registering on a fake Facebook page set up in support of the gunman’s actions.
Additionally, in a series of Internet postings, Breivik clearly characterizes himself not as a populist Christian conservative, as the media has attempted to push, but as a Bill Kristol style neo-con, an enthusiastic supporter of Israel, attacking racists and accusing others of being “anti-gay”.
“None of the comments are extreme or hint at a desire to commit violence,” notes the CCC website, adding that Breivik was a supporter of the website which was run by Hans Rustad, a former Jewish left-winger turned neo-conservative.
I begin to suspect that the real Anders Breivik is lying in a shallow grave somewhere.
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Glenn Beck speaks for himself better than anyone else possibly could
(chronic heavy consumption of Aspartame does cause serious brain damage)
Norway shooting: Glenn Beck compares dead teenagers to Hitler youth
Glenn Beck, the leading Right-wing American broadcaster, has prompted outrage after comparing the teenage victims of the Utoya Island massacre to the Hitler Youth.
Beck said that the Labour party youth camp on the island, where 68 people were murdered, bore “disturbing” similarities to the Nazi party’s notorious juvenile wing.
Beck, a multimillionaire darling of the Tea Party movement, said on his nationally-syndicated radio show: “There was a shooting at a political camp, which sounds a little like, you know, the Hitler youth. I mean, who does a camp for kids that’s all about politics? Disturbing.”
Torbjørn Eriksen, a former press secretary to Jens Stoltenberg, Norway’s prime minister, described the comment as “a new low” for the broadcaster, who has frequently been forced to apologise for offensive remarks.
“Young political activists have gathered at Utoya for over 60 years to learn about and be part of democracy, the very opposite of what the Hitler Youth was about,” he told The Daily Telegraph. “Glenn Beck’s comments are ignorant, incorrect and extremely hurtful.”
Glenn , don’t expect any invites to Norway as well as several dozen other Countries as well
In February he apologised to Reform Judaism, a group that campaigns for the modernisation of the Jewish faith, after comparing them to “radicalised Islam”.
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Excerpts from the article:
GLADIO 2.0 : WHY THE WEST CAN’T RESIST THE NORWAY MASSACRE AND PSY-OP
July 25, 2011
By Stone Pinkerton
Gonzo Town
Until now, few in the mainstream sphere have yet to find it strange that Anders had a series of professionally posed, studio quality “publicity” photos taken. There is one of him wearing Masonic regalia, one in a military uniform, a HAZMAT suit and gas mask, a Navy SEAL wetsuit with bayonet rifle, as well as a couple of “glamour” shots that look way too good for posting on Match.com.
Besides the fact that to stage all of these photos and publish what looks like a comprehensive manifesto, it must have cost a small fortune, it is as if he was head-hunted by a talent agency who were preparing to launch his career in media. More than likely however, all these were in preparation for some media psy-op, and if you need any proof, just check out your TV program or newspaper.
Interestingly, Breivik’s Facebook page looked fake by anyone’s account, as do his other online submissions and profiles, many of which were loaded up in the weeks before the terror operation. To the trained eye, blatantly fake online pages like these often give off the smell of a CIA/Mossad operational mock-up. It’s very difficult to argue that the are really authentic, nonetheless, highly paid mainstream media journalists will use them to build up a ‘profile’ of the killer after the fact, presenting their findings as consensus reality- in short, a reality we can all agree on. This should really raise alarm bells to anyone who is pursuing the truth behind the event.
Brian: due to his highly professional portfolio of photographs I have to wonder if he had a handler. Perhaps a handler taking orders from Israel.
We have not a clue as to the origin of those photos. They’re all over the Internet but where did they come from? Despite the similarities why does the man in the fancy dress have a markedly different jawline to the facebook trance music lover?
There is a photo of the fancy dresser in the back of what is apparently a police car. However, the background is not visible and the photo is not dated. We’re being fed a carefully prepared diet of lies so nothing about this case can be believed without solid corroboration. I already know that will never happen. We’ll never hear or see the fancy dress man again. The facebook Anders Breivik was probably already dead at the time of the massacre. Did you see how he was hated by other Norwegians? All his father’s diplomatic cronies apparently referred to him as a “Mummy’s boy”. I suspect there is a lot of Norwegian weirdness in all of this.
I think the glamour shot is an old photo. He has chubbed up a bit since it was taken. The eyes and nose are the same. I was convinced that the wetsuit photo used the glamour shot photo as a basis so I used photoshop to try and prove it but I was wrong. Still, the nose and eyes and brow line are the same (eyebrows are styled different though). According to Norway news today, ‘friends’ of his said he has had plastic surgery on his forehead, nose, and cheeks.
The masonic apron is real, it’s the same apron used in Norway’s masonic lodge. The three circles indicate he is a third degree Mason which means you can generally visit other lodges (since third degree is usually a requirement). What’s funny is the internet chatter saying he only claimed to be a freemason. This is false because the lodge’s official website acknowledges he is now ‘excluded’ in the wake of his terrorism:
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=no&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.frimurer.no&act=url
A former mason from this same lodge wrote a book about being placed inside of a coffin after touching a skull and having something places over his face in some sort of bizarre ritual. The lodge stated he swore an oath of secrecy and should not ever revealed their rituals. I’m not going to blame this attack on freemasons or get into any of the fringe conspiracy theories. But what if his specific lodge was into this whole ideology and is one of the ‘cells’ ?
Sorry Smitty but Norwegian freemasons do not look anything like that. Here is a photo of a painting of a REAL Norwegian freemason:-
http://www.odeion.org/images/norwegian%20freemason.jpg
I hate to say that you’re lying so I’ll make do with saying that your “knowledge” of Norwegian freemasonry is somewhat inaccurate.