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JFK: Who’s telling the truth: Clint Hill or the Zapruder film?

Agent’s reports contradict JFK film, autopsy X-rays and other crucial photographs

 

by Jim Fetzer

 

“In the midst of the mayhem the agents were calm, but ready to react in a Jerry Blaine,” THE KENNEDY DETAIL

According to Jerry Blaine, the author of THE KENNEDY DETAIL (2010), his purpose in writing this book was “to set history straight, to leave a book for [his] grandchildren that they could read and know the truth beyond any measure of doubt.” What Blaine has actually done, however, moves us further toward the truth by revealing that the words of Clint Hill, the only agent to respond during the assassination, contradict his actions as shown in the Zapruder film, in which his efforts to protect Jackie Kennedy are among its most indelible features. They also impeach autopsy X-rays and other photographs. We therefore have in Clint Hill’s own words stunning new proof that the extant film has been faked. The book—and presentations to promote it—thus contributes to “setting history straight”, but not in the sense its author intended.

Clint Hill was not the only agent to attempt to respond after shots rang out. Secret Service agent John Ready, who was on the right running board whereas Clint was on the left, began to respond but was called back by Emory Roberts, Agent in Charge of the Presidential Protection Detail. This is stunning in itself, but is only one of more than fifteen indications that the Secret Service set up JFK for the hit, which include that two agents were left behind at Love Field, that the vehicles were in the wrong order, that the 112th Military Intelligence Unit was ordered to “stand down” rather than prvide protection throughout the city, and that the motorcycle escort was reduced to four, who were instructed not to ride forward the rear wheels. Open windows were not covered and the crowd was allowed to spill out into the street.

When I discovered that Jerry and Clint had made presentations at book signings, I sent out a notice to several of my closest collaborators, all of whom contributed to the three JFK books I edited, ASSASSINATION SCIENCE (1998), MURDER IN DEALEY PLAZA (2000), and THE GREAT ZAPRUDER FILM HOAX (2003). I had reported there that we had found multiple indications the film had been reconstructed, where rather important events, such as the driver, William Greer, bringing the limo to a halt, had been removed and the film redone. An expert on special effects, Roderick Ryan, had told Noel Twyman, BLOODY TREASON (1997), that the “blob” of brains exploding to the right/front had been painted in, while, as Doug Horne, INSIDE THE ARRB (2009), has explained, a new group of Hollywood experts has found that a massive defect to the back of JFK’s head had been concealed by being (crudely) painted over in black.

The Costella Response

John Costella, Ph.D., the leading expert on the film in the world today, who earned his doctorate in physics with a specialization in electromagnetism, the properties of light and images of moving objects, responded almost immediately. “Forget about the book”, he wrote. “That YouTube video [of Blaine and Hill at a book signing, which can be found here:


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is worth its weight in gold!” A few years ago, after he did a compilation of eyewitness reports from Dealey Plaza

http://assassinationresearch.com/v5n1/v5n1costella.pdf

and created a stabilized version of the Zapruder film, in which the limousine does not move vertically within frames


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John recognized that what Clint has described from the days after the assassination, to his testimony to the Warren Commission and right up to his last public interviews in the 1970s or 1980s, was consistent but contradicts the film. At the book signing,

24:30: “As I approached the vehicle there was a third shot. It hit the President in the head, upper right rear of the right ear, caused a gaping hole in his head, which caused brain matter, blood, and bone fragments to spew forth out over the car, over myself. At that point Mrs. Kennedy came up out of the back seat onto the trunk of the car. She was trying to retrieve something that had gone off to the right rear . She did not know I was there. At that point I grabbed Mrs. Kennedy, put her in the back seat. The President fell over into her lap, to his left.

His right side of his head was exposed. I could see his eyes were fixed. There was a hole in the upper right rear portion of his head about the size of my palm. Most of the gray matter in that area had been removed, and was scattered throughout the entire car, including on Mrs. Kennedy. I turned and gave the follow-up car crew the thumbs-down, indicating that we were in a very dire situation. The driver accelerated; he got up to the lead car which was driven by Chief Curry, the Dallas Chief of Police . . .”.

This is completely consistent with every account Clint has ever given. He insists that he reached Mrs. Kennedy,pushed her down into the back seat, and was lying over the President, close enough to view the exact wounds,before the driver accelerated away—and certainly before they got to the lead car.The problem is that the extant Zapruder film—together with the less familiar Nix and Muchmore films—has Clint never actuallytouching Mrs. Kennedy; indeed, the extant Zapruder shows that he never got further than the rear foothold until the time that the limo passed the lead car and went under the Triple Underpass . Instead, it shows him stuck there on the rear foothold.

Image and video hosting by TinyPicAccording to Clint Hill (shown here on the rear foothold of the limousine as the vehicle is about to enter the Triple Underpass), he had already reached Mrs. Kennedy and pushed her down in the back seat. JFK had fallen to the left into her lap, where the right side of his head was exposed to Clint, who was lying over them. This photo is supposed to have been taken by Ike Altgens and corresponds with late Zapruder frames. Clint’s testimony not only falsifies the Zapruder film, but also shows that this photograph was faked to agree with it.

Lest there be any doubt on this crucial point, in Clint Hill’s written statement dated 30 November 1963, which was published as Commission Exhibit CE 1024, he wrote: “As I lay over the top of the back seat I noticed a portion of the President’s head on the right rear side was missing and he was bleeding profusely. Part of his brain was gone. I saw a part of his skull with hair on it lying on the seat” [18H742]. And in his testimony to the commission on 9 March 1964, “The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the middle of the car. His brain was exposed.” [2H141]. Since he has told us he made these observations before the limousine had reached the pilot car drive by Chief Curry (shown above), this photo has to have been faked.Clint could not have made these observations from the rear foothold as it represents. (His descriptions of the wound to the right rear of JFK’s head are discussed below.)


The Limo Stop

Not the least fascinating aspect of Clint Hill’s latest remarks is his observation that he was covered with brains and gore as he ran forward from the left running board of the Secret Service Cadillac—called “The Queen Mary”—which, according to Emory Roberts (THE KENNEDY DETAIL, page 215), was 15 feet back. This is consistent with the report of Officer Bobby Hargis riding to the left/rear of the limousine, who was hit so hard by the brains and debris that he thought he himself might have been shot. Agents who saw JFK’s brains splattered across the trunk in Washington, D.C. would be nauseated by the sight, as I explained in HOAX, page 27. But it is not in the film. So John wrote to Clint—and he got it, because John has the signed Registered Mail receipt card—urging him to be certain to record his version of events for posterity. Now he is on the road, participating in book signings and talking publicly again, for the first time in decades. His story is still exactly the same and, most important, still does not agree with his actions as seen in the film. Here is a clip featuring what is represented as Clint Hill’s actions in the film:


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The film itself thus demonstrates that the Zapruder version of Clint Hill’s actions up to the Triple Underpass contradict Clint Hill’s words describing what he actually did.

John’s collation of eyewitness reports about the assassination includes dozens and dozens about the limo stop. Some reported seeing it slow dramatically and others that it came to a complete stop, which makes sense since, from different positions, different witnesses would have seen it slow dramatically asit came to a complete stop. Among them is Toni Foster , who was interviewed by Debra Conway in 2000. As Daniel Gallup has observed, Foster seems to have no idea that her recollections contradict the official record. Toni told Debra, “For some reason, the car stopped. It did stop for seconds. I don’t even know why it stopped and all of a sudden it sped up and they went under the underpass. I could never figure out why the car stopped.” “The way she delivers these lines,” Gallup observed, “I doubt Toni had ever seen the extant Z-film, and had no idea her recollections contradicted that film.” He said he was reminded of David Lifton’s early (1971) interviews with the Newmans who also said the limo had stopped. “They had no way of knowing at the time that the Z-film showed no such stop. All of this is to say, the earliest recollections of individuals are likely to be the most significant,” he added, “especially if there is evidence of a lack of exposure to contrary viewpoints that might influence memory”.

For a few more:

Billy Lovelady (on the steps of the Texas School Book Depository), 19 March 1964: “I recall that following the shooting I ran toward the spot where President Kennedy’s car had stopped.” [FBI statement: 22H662]

Roy Truly (on the north side of Elm Street in front of the building), 24 March 1964: “The car—I saw the President’s car swerve to the left and stop somewhere down in this area” [Later:] (Mr. Belin: “When you saw the President’s car seem to stop, how long did it appear to stop?) Mr. Truly: It would be hard to say, over a second or two, something like that. I didn’t see—I just saw it stop. I don’t know. I didn’t see it start up.” [Warren Commission testimony: 3H221]

Mrs. Earle Cabell (four cars behind the Presidential limousine, at the top of Elm Street at the time of the shots), 13 July 1964: “I was aware that the motorcade stopped dead still. There was no question about that.” [Later:] “As I told you, the motorcade was stopped.” [Later:] (Mr. Hubert: “That was when your car at least had come to a standstill?”) Mrs. Cabell: “Every car in the motorcade had come to a standstill.” [Later:] “… we were dead still for a matter of some seconds—“ [Warren Commission Testimony” 7H486-7]

These reports are significant from multiple points of view. Roy Truly was Oswald’s supervisor in the Book Depository and would reassure Officer Marrion Baker, when he confronted Oswald in the 2nd floor lunch room 90 seconds after the assassination, that he was an employee and belonged there. Billy Lovelady was another employee who looked enough like Oswald to be mistaken for him. And Earle Cabell, the Mayor of Dallas at the time, was the brother of Lt. Gen. Charles Cabell, USAF (ret.), whom JFK removed as a deputy director of the CIA after the disastrous Bay of Pigs fiasco.

The limo stop—during which JFK was hit twice in the head, once from behind and once from in front—was such an obvious indication of Secret Service complicity that it had to be taken out, which is undoubtedly the principal reason for fixing the film. But it had other ramifications. What Clint Hill has consistently described is not in the Zapruder film: he describes several actionsin those seconds around the limo stop that were deleted from the extant film. In editing the timeline of the extant film, it was necessary to delete his pushing of Mrs. Kennedy back into the seat—there just wasn’t enough time left in the film once the limo stop had been deleted. There is no possible way in which Clint could possibly have seen what he claims to have seen before the car accelerated away and passed the lead car when he was stuck on the back of the speeding limo as he is shown doing in the extant film. And from his initial reports right up to his latest “book signing” interview, he has insisted that that was when he saw those things, that he did reach Mrs. Kennedy and that he did push her down into the car, unlike what the film shows. Which means that the film is a fake.

The Head Wound

Other proofs of the alteration of the film derive from his description of the wound itself and of the debris that was blown over the car. “As I approached the vehicle there was a third shot. It hit the President in the head, upper right rear of the right ear, caused a gaping hole in his head, which caused brain matter, blood, and bone fragments to spew forth out over the car, over myself. . . . His right side of his head was exposed. I could see his eyes were fixed. There was a hole in the upper right rear portion of his head about the size of my palm. Most of the gray matter in that area had been removed, and was scattered throughout the entire car, including on Mrs. Kennedy.” Clint’s description corresponds with the image of the blow out that can be seen in later frames of the film, such as 374:

Image and video hosting by TinyPicIn the belief that those who were altering the film around the head shot in frame 313 might have overlooked later frames, I began to study later frames and found that the blow-out could be seen in frame 374. The bluish-gray image is brain matter, while the pinkish extension is the back of a skull flap that was blown open by the frangible (or exploding) bullet when it hit. But the blow-out is not seen in frames like 313-316, another proof of fakery.

Even if Clint actually touched Jackie, the films do not show him pushing her into the seat, which is what he has maintained for 47 years. In his formal report dated on 30 November 1963 about the events of 22 November 1963, a copy of which is archived at www.assassinationscience.com/ce-1024-clint-hill.pdf he reports, “As I lay over the top of the back seat I noticed a portion of the President’s head on the right rear side was missing and he was bleed profusel[y]. Part of his brain was gone. I saw a part of his skull with hair on it “, which is consistent with frame 374 but not with frames 313-316.

Indeed, since this record was Warren Commission Exhibit CE-1024, at least some of its members and staff had to have been aware of observations of the first person to observe the head wound, apart from Jackie herself. But even THE KENNEDY DETAIL (2010) includes this sentence, ” And slumped across the seat, President Kennedy lay unmoving, a bloody, gaping, fist-sized hole clearly visible in the back of his head” (THE KENNEDY DETAIL, p. 217), an observation of enormous significance in relation to the autopsy photographs and X-rays as well as to the authenticity of the Zapruder film.

As I have observed, Doug Horne, INSIDE THE ARRB, Vol. IV (2009), has reported that a new group of Hollywood experts studying the film has found that, in frames 313-316, the blow-out to the back of the head was (crudely) painted over in black. Their finding complements the earlier report by Roderick Ryan, an expert in special effects, that the “blob” of brains and blood that bulges out to the right/front had also been painted in, as Noel Twyman, BLOODY TREASON (1997), explained. (Roderick Ryan would receive the Academy Award for his contributions to cinematography in 2000.) Since the blow-out is visible in frame 374 but not visible in frames 313-316, we have yet another proof of the film has been altered. But these observations also extend to the autopsy photographs and X-rays. Here, for example, are drawings and photographs of the back of the head, which were assumed to be authentic by the House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) when it reinvestigated the case in 1977-78:

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There are several important features of these images. One of the most stunning is that when the two pathologists who had conducted the autopsy at Bethesda Naval Hospital testified to the HSCA about the location of the alleged entry wound to the back of his head, they raised its location by four inchesfrom above and to the right of the EOP (external occipital protuberance) to the crown of the head (or “cowlick”), an astounding variation from their autopsy report. Notice, too, that while the alleged entry wound is visible in the diagram on the right, it is not visible in the photograph on the left. Most important, however, is that, as in the case of the Zapruder frames 313-316, the blow out to the back of the head at the right rear, which Clint so vividly described, is missing. The skull flap is present, but the defect is not. Based upon his observations—he has been consistent about all this for more than forty years—this diagram and photograph, even apart from the EOP entry wound, have been faked.

The Witnesses and the X-rays

Clint Hill, moreover, was hardly the only witness to have reported that the President had an enormous blow-out to the right rear of his head. More than forty witnesses from Dealey Plaza, Parkland Hospital, and even Bethsda reported a blow out to the back of his head, including Beverly Oliver, Phillip Willis, Marilyn Willis, Ed Hoffman, Dr. Robert McClellan, Dr. Paul Peters, Dr. Kenneth Salyer, Dr. Charles Carrico, Dr. Richard Dulaney, Dr. Charles Crenshaw, Dr. Ronald Jones, Nurse Audrey Bell, Justice of the Peace Theran Ward, ambulance driver Aubrey Rike, FBI Agent Frank O’Neill, as well as Bethesda Naval medical technicians Jerrol Custer, Paul O’Connor and Floyd Reebe, as Robert Groden, THE KILLING OF A PRESIDENT (1994), pp. 86-88, has recorded, and as Gary Aguilar, M.D., has confirmed (MURDER 2000), pp. 175-217.

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The highly consistent and mutually reinforcing testimony of all these eyewitnesses— including the physicians who were present in Trauma Room #1 when JFK’s moribund body was brought to Parkland Hospital and even Special Agents of the FBI who were present to observe the conduct or the autopsy at Bethesda Naval Hospital—were all discounted on the basis of the claim that the autopsy X-rays did not show any such blow-out. This inconsistency would not be resolved until late 1992, when David W. Mantik, M.D. Ph.D., would enter the National Archives to study the X-rays and in the process transform our understanding of the assassination and the cover-up. An M.D. with board certification in radiation oncology, which is the treatment of cancer using radiation therapy because of which he is an expert in the interpretation of X-rays, he drew on his background as a Ph.D. in physics and applied a simple technique known as “optical densitometry”, which enabled him—by measuring the amount of light that passes through an X-ray to determine the relative density of objects whose exposure to radiation had created the image—to discover that lateral cranial X-ray (of the skull taken from the side) had been altered by imposing a kind of patch over the blow out. Here we can see the “official” X-ray on the left and the patch (“Area P”) on the right, which bears a striking correspondence in size and shape to the image in Frame 374:

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David’s discoveries and those of Robert B. Livingston, M.D., a world authority on the human brain and an expert on wound ballistics, were the centerpiece of my first of three books on the death of JFK, ASSASSINATION SCIENCE (1998), where I brought together experts on different aspects of the case. Livingston compared the multiple, consistent reports of qualified and experienced physicians at Parkland Hospital with the diagrams and photographs of the brain in the National Archives. The physicians reported both cerebral and cerebellar tissue extruding from the blow out, while the diagrams and photographs—the brain itself is missing—show a virtually undamaged brain with a complete cerebellum. You or I might have drawn the same conclusions, but it carries more weight when it’s the finding of a world authority on the brain. For those who may not have access to the book, a summary of our findings as well as of the shooting sequence is archived “Dealey Plaza Revisited: What Happened to JFK?”

“Ike” Altgens and Clint Hill

In his comprehensive study of the Zapruder film in HOAX (2003), Costella discusses the ambiguity that Altgens has displayed regarding the photos he allegedly took in Dealey Plaza on 22 November 1963. The identity of the person who took them was important in part because an Oswald look-alike (allegedly Billy Lovelady) can be seen in the photo with which this article begins—published in The Saturday Evening Postfollowing the assassination. So the name of the photographer was widely sought but difficult to come by. Even J. Edgar Hoover skirted the issue. It would not be until 24 May 1964 he was identified by name and then questions arose of why neither the FBI nor the Warren Commission had interviewed him. While his office at the Associated Press was a short walk away from the FBI in Dallas, the FBI only interviewed him on 2 June 1964 and produced a rather garbled report of his actions that day. As Richard Trask, PICTURES OF THE PAIN (1994), reports, Altgens himself would subsequently deny that he had taken all of the photos that had been attributed to him. And that, no doubt, is for a very good reason. No one can have taken a photo that was faked.

Costella is certainly right about the importance of Clint Hill’s book-signing statement in comparison with the book itself, which is rather sketchy and vague relative to the sequence of events of greatest interest here. The video captures more detail and his demeanor in relating his extraordinary experiences. But even THE KENNEDY DETAIL (2010) includes this sentence, stunning in simplicity but pregnant in ramifications:

And slumped across the seat, President Kennedy lay unmoving, a bloody, gaping, fist-sized hole clearly visible in the back of his head. (THE KENNEDY DETAIL, p. 217)

After all, if JFK had a fist-sized hole clearly visible in the back of his head, it follows that (1) the eyewitnesses were right about its location, (2) the HSCA photograph and diagram are fake, (3) the autopsy X-rays were altered, and (4) Zapuder frames that don’t show it when they should were changed, precisely as we have found above. In fact, Clint Hill was far from the only expert who described that wound as “fist-sized”. When I edited ASSASSINATION SCIENCE (1998), I invited Charles Crenshaw, M.D., to contribute a chapter and asked him to diagram the wounds as he had witnessed them at Parkland Hospital, where he was the last physician to observe them before he closed JFK’s eyelids as he was being wrapped in sheets and placed in the casket:

Image and video hosting by TinyPicCharles told me that this defect was the size of a baseball or else the size of your fist when you double it up. The best witnesses and the best studies thus converge on the conclusion that strenuous efforts were made to conceal the true causes of the death of JFK from the American people. For nearly fifty years, Clint has maintained that he pushed Jackie down into her seat and observed the blow out to the head in his report of 22 November 1963,

www.assassinationscience.com/ce-1024-clint-hill.pdf,

in this 1975 interview,

www.assassinationscience.com/clint-hill-1975.mp4

and in this 1995 interview, where he describes it all in detail, and not just once but twice:

www.assassinationscience.com/clint-hill-1995.mp4.

He and Jerry Blaine have thereby contributed to the resolution of one of the most contentious questions in the history of assassination research with corroborating proof the Zapruder film was altered.

Disturbing Reflections

Charles gave more than one interview in which he explained that the bullet that had blown out the back of JFK’s head had entered at the right temple. He suggested that it had taken a tangential trajectory and blown out the back of his skull, whereas Bob Livingston believed that shock waves created by the explosion of the frangible bullet had caused his brains to be blown out the back of his skull, which had already been weakened by the shot that entered the back of his head near the EOP. If Crenshaw was mistaken in detail about the trajectory, he was right that the autopsy photos he was being shown did not resemble the wounds that he had observed, which meant that there had been alteration of the evidence—either by faking photos and films or by the physical alteration of the wounds—both of which appear to have taken place.

Toward the end of this book, which is unintentionally revealing, Blaine relates the story of an exchange between Clint Hill and Mike Wallace for a planned “60 Minutes” segment. Mike asked Clint if he had any doubt that Oswald was the lone gunman, to which Clint replied, “There were only three shots,” Clint shrugged. “And it was one gun. Three shots.” (THE KENNEDY DETAIL, p. 387) What troubles me is that, given his consistent description of the blow-out to the back of the head, it ought to have been obvious that that shot had been fired from the right front. While there was an entry wound in the vicinity of the EOP, as Mantik explains in his masterful synthesis of the medical evidence in MURDER IN DEALEY PLAZA (2000), the massive, gaping wound that Clint observed was clearly fired from another location by someone else.

And that is not the only anomaly in Clint’s testimony as it is reported in the pages of this book. In the most puzzling passage of them all, Blaine reports’ “The Zapruder film was being used for Secret Service training and sometimes Clint was called on to comment” (THE KENNEDY DETAIL, p. 375). Given Clint’s consistent depiction of the actions he took which are inconsistent with the extant film, I am taken aback by the ghoulish prospect that the Secret Service may be using the authentic film, while the public has only the fake. Surely Clint would have been unable to miss the difference between his actions as he lived them and those depicted in the fabricated film. But perhaps even this extraordinary possibility cannot be ruled out. It might also help to explain Clint’s consistency in his depiction of the actions he took now nearly 50 years ago, if his memory has been periodically refreshed by seeing the original over again.

So Clint’s descriptions and observations both have significant ramifications for the autopsy X-rays, photos and the Zapruder film. Notice, for example, that the Mafia could not have altered X-rays under the control of medical officers of the US Navy, agents of the Secret Service, or the president’s personal physician. Neither pro- nor anti-Castro Cubans could have substituted another brain for that of JFK. And even if the Soviets had the capacity to fabricate movies comparable to that of the CIA and Hollywood, it would have been unable to get its hands on the Zapruder film. JFK had antagonized many of the most powerful individuals and groups in the USA, as James Douglass, “JFK and the Unspeakable”(2008), and Phillip Nelson, “LBJ: The Mastermind of JFK’s Assassination”(2010), have explained. We now have another piece of a puzzle that implicates officials at the highest levels of the American government as complicit in an elaborate cover-up that has to have been planned in detail and in advance of the commission of the crime. It is long past time the truth be known to the public.

Special thanks to John Costella and to David Mantik for their comments and suggestions.


Jim Fetzer [send him an email] is a former Marine Corps officer who earned his Ph.D. in the history and the philosophy of science. He co-edits assassinationresearch.com with John Costella. He is the editor of The Place of Probability in Science.

 

 

 

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25 Comments for “JFK: Who’s telling the truth: Clint Hill or the Zapruder film?”

  1. The view from the sixth floor window, is the reflecting pool. There is a photo also, of the motorcade entering the tunnel, and a station wagon stopped near the head shot [X] location with a man getting into the drivers side back seat open door with what looks like a briefcase, Needless to say the Zionazi’s still have the nukes, and the Terrorists in Talmudia are still Nuclear Blackmailing the whole world, and the “Jewish” economic Terrorists still print the currency & OWN THE MEDIA, and OPERATE a crack whorehouse called Congress, in the most MASONIC city in the western hemisphere..*And the Mass Murderers of the Branch Davidians are still unprosecuted….kinda makes the whole “Do ESTABLISH JUSTICE”…statement ring sorta hollow….

  2. I just discovered this person who was Oswald’s girlfriend on the side through the whole thing. Fascinating interview here! She is still in hiding and constantly moving around. She had to leave the US and was nervous about spending too much time on the phone. Her last words stated that she had to catch a train for fear of being caught! She maintains he had NOTHING to do with the hit. She even says that Oswald foiled an earlier attempt on JFK.

    http://theintelhub.com/2011/07/17/groundbreaking-interview-with-lee-harvey-oswalds-girlfriend-judyth-vary-baker/

    Here are some other links I gleaned from the interview. I intend to buy her book also!

    http://judythbaker.blogspot.com/

    http://meandlee.com/

    http://www.youtube.com/user/lola4jvb4lho

    http://www.lee-harvey-oswald.com/

    http://www.scribd.com/Judyth%20Vary%20Baker

  3. Jim Fetzer’s research into JFK’s assassination is credible. He has done much scholarly work on the assassination of Sen. Paul Welstone. = G. Beres

  4. Marc C. Daniele

    Folks, I don’t want to sound ignorant, but can someone please explain a couple things for me?

    In the film I see what looks like Kennedy being shot in the right front, and he even falls to the left which unless I am wrong is the way he would fall if shot in the right front, so is this somehow faked or what?

    If he was shot in the right front then it could not have possibly come from the Depository that was behind the car, right?

    Am I missing something here?

    If I am right with this then there was at least one other shooter, even-though I always thought there was anyway!

    Remember the USS Liberty, and 9/11!
    Restore The US Constitution!
    US “Republic” First, Always!

    US Army Veteran,
    Marc C. Daniele
    Herculaneum, Mo.

    • They altered the X-rays, substituted another brain for that of JFK, and recreated the film, which was such glaring proof of Secret Service complicity in setting him up for the hit. The driver, William Greer, actually brought the limo to a halt after shots had already been fired to make sure he would be killed. The point of this article is to demonstrate that even the testimony of Secret Service agent Clint Hill, who rushed forward to assist Jackie, provides striking confirmation that the film has been reworked. There were multiple shooters, where I give a sketch of the shooting at “Dealey Plaza Revisited: What Happened to JFK?”, http://www.und.edu/org/jfkconference/UNDchapter30.pdf

      • Marc C. Daniele

        Thank you Mr. Fetzer!

        I hope you don’t mind, but I downloaded the link you gave me to read at my leasure, and as many times as nessasary to understand everything!

        I am only 44 myself, but my late mother was a very great admirer of President Kennedy! She would be very upset at this cover-up, as I am myself!

        This is not much different, except the scale, to 9/11! I even believe the same people, “State” did both crimes!

        How long is this once great US “Republic” going to stay a slave to this rouge, criminal “State”?

        Remember the USS Liberty, and 9/11!
        Restore The US Constitution!
        US “Republic”, First, Always!

        US Army Veteran
        Marc C. Daniele
        Herculaneum, Mo.

        • No only do I not mind, Marc, but I highly recommend it. You can also find a video of one of my JFK presentations on my blog at http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2009/12/httpdotsub.html where I have archived three talks, two from Portland, Oregon, and one from Seattle, Washington. The first two are on aspects of 9/11 research and the death of JFK, the other on what happened on 9/11.

          • Marc C. Daniele

            Again, Mr. Fetzer I thank you for your help!

            I will definitely look at your blog!

            Keep up the good work, as with most, if not all of the writers here at VT!

            Thank you all!

  5. For more on the death of Sen. Paul Wellstone, visit http://assassinationscience.com for two statements I presented at The National Press Club on 25 October 2004, two years to the day after the plane crash, when we announced the publication of AMERICAN ASSASSINATION (2004), co-authored with Don “Four Arrows” Jacobs, a Native-American scholar. And for a one-hour “flash lecture”, go to “The Senator Wellstone Assassination”, which is on YouTube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Vbf49kzWFw . In addition, I continued my research with John P. Costella, Ph.D., physics with a specialization in electromagnetism, where our co-authored study, “The NTSB Failed Wellstone”, http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/070605_wellstone.shtml was published in Michael Ruppert’s “From the Wilderness” Newsletter, including 4 reviews of the book. For the latest, see the 15-part documentary, “WELLSTONE: THEY KILLED HIM”, from snowshoefilms, at http://www.snowshoefilms.com/wellstone.html .

  6. The Nix film blown-up shows Greer’s left arm raised high to approx Greer’s chin level as Greer turns and Jack is murdered. At the same instant on Ztoon313 it shows Greer’s left arm on the steering wheel BUT AT A VERY LOW HEIGHT. Since this shows two completely different locations for GREER’S left arm at the instant of JFK’s execution…ONE OF THE FILMS IS ALTERED. THIS IS PROOF OF ALTERATION. An altered location for Greer’s left arm means there is something about Greer’s movements they don’t want us to know.
    GREER IS THE KILLER.
    video of the comparisons between Nix vs. Z-film@
    http://www.pottersville.info/forums/showthread.php?1495-The-driver-shot-kennedy/page3

    • The hypothesis that Greer shot JFK is not out-of-the-question, but it would have been very noticeable to those in the vehicle. Reworking the case from the autopsy report, the X-rays and photographs, and taking into account the ballistics, since Greer was to the left/front in relation to JFK, if he had shot him, then the brains and debris would have been blown out to the right/rear. Instead, they were blown out to the left/rear with such force that Officer Bobby Hargis riding to the left/rear was hit with such force that he at first thought that he himself had been shot. So while it is not impossible that Greer could have shot JFK, the evidence, taken as a whole, does not support it.

  7. A web site Jackie killed JFK, makes the case that she fired the fatal shot. At least two people have stated that they had seen a hole of entry on the left side of his forehead that would have made a fist sized hole on the back right.

    The Zapruder clip on this page shows a man with a BETTER video camera than Zapruder had 15 feet from the fatal head shot, now where is that ? There was also another guy about 10 feet from him, also in a suit, with a big camera bag in between them, and they were both dressed in similar fashion. The guy farther from the guy near the curb looked like he has just a regular camera, but the guy by the curb has a awesome looking video camera, we need to know where that went to.

    Eye witnesses to these major events don’t seem to have high survival rates, funny how fast some have died in this Murdock flap.

    • A shot that entered the left side of his forehead would have exited to the right rear. But his brains were blown out to the left rear. The idea that Jackie, who loved her husband, would have shot him is completely inconsistent with the evidence. JFK was hit in the throat from in front; hit in the back from behind; and hit in the head (twice) from behind and from in front. There is no evidence whatever to suggest that Jackie shot Jack–as though no one in the adoring crowds would have noticed! There appear to have been shooters at six locations, where JFK was hit four times, John Connally one to three, and three shots missed (one hit the distant curbing and injured the bystander, James Tague; one missed and hit the chrome strip over the windshield; and one missed and was picked out of the grass on the left side of the limo, where a triangular chuck of skull from the back of his head was found the next day). For an overview, see “Dealey Plaza Revisited: What happened to JFK?”, http://www.und.edu/org/jfkconference/UNDchapter30.pdf

  8. Many files concerning the assassination were scheduled to be released in 2014. Tuis date was set way back in1966. Why? Why wait 50 years? Don`t expect to see these files anytime soon, though. Onr of the last things Bush did before leaving office was to issue a signing statement to keep those files sealed INDEFINITELY.

    Who is he protecting?

    • The resurgence of interest in JFK because of Oliver Stone’s film led Congress to pass a JFK Records Act, which created a five member civilian board to declassify documents and records held by the CIA, the FBI, Secret Service, and so on, where their decisions could only be overridden by the President. George H.W. Bush, a former Director of the CIA, fought it tooth and nail, then refused to appoint its five members, which had to wait the incoming Clinton administration and pushed it back 18 months, giving the agencies ample time to clean up their files. Even then, they managed to release some 60,000 documents and records, which has made a substantial contribution to our understanding of the case. For example, one of its first releases was a report showing that Gerald Ford (R-MI), then a junior member of the Warren Commission, had the description of a wound JFK had sustained to his back 5-6 inches below his collar from “his uppermost back”, which was already an exaggeration, to “the base of the back of his neck” to make the “magic” bullet theory more plausible. Douglas Horne, its senior adviser for military affairs, has published a five-volume record of its discoveries, which is titled INSIDE THE ARRB (Assassination Records Review Board). For more on the “magic” bullet theory, see “Reasoning about Assassinations”, which I presented at Cambridge and published in an international peer-reviewed journal. Do a search and you can download it as a pdf.

  9. Just remember all others (who belived in the “system” of truth honor and justice)…that.were shot down that day like dogs as well. American fools still allow this type of barbarism to fester still…and infect as much of the world as possible ……..Americans put down your sick dogs of war ……..for you shall be complicit as well…….

  10. Thank you Jim. I’ve followed you many years. I have all of your books (the first was your book on Wellstone which I read because of the circumstances of how the Patriot Act was passed, literally over his dead body). Would you have a list of books you further recommend on your site? I have about thirty and would like to add to my collection in order to preserve the record for my family in the future. Thank you for what you do. I was in my school yard as a Junior in high school when the Nuns came running out to tell us that JFK was dead.

    • On JFK, I would recommend these: BEST EVIDENCE by David Lifton, BLOODY TREASON by Noel Twyman, ASSASSINATION SCIENCE, MURDER IN DEALEY PLAZA, and THE GREAT ZAPRUDER FILM HOAX, all three edited by me, INSIDE THE ARRB by Douglas Horne, JFK AND THE UNSPEAKABLE by James Douglass, and LBJ: MASTERMIND OF JFK’S ASSASSINATION by Phil Nelson. Those are the ones I recommend as the best on JFK.

  11. Jackson Montgomery

    The exit wound is seen clearly at the moment of front right impact and in frame 337. Modern research confirms what clearly happens and debunks forty seven years of disinfo. The exit wound was always visible between 312-313.
    [IMG]http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/Gifs/500gaped.jpg[/IMG]
    [IMG]http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/Gifs/WallPaint441-1.jpg[/IMG]

    • Well, Jackson, you and I may not use the word “clearly” with the same sense. Certainly, what you have here is interesting, but does not have anything like the clarity of frame 374, which I have included above. I will share this with others who are involved in Zapruder film research and secure their take. I appreciate your posting this. Thanks for doing that.

  12. Jackson Montgomery

    Where is the exit wound located you claim jfk suffered?

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