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Ron Paul: Time to Throw Him Under a Bus?
We Have Been Played By Him Enough
By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor
For years, we have been told how Ron Paul supported a new investigation on 9/11, he is quoted continually on this. In reality, his is a “denialist” of the American Holocaust.
Not just that, listen to this idiot for a minute or two, he is an absolute moron, even by Bush standards. I do so love Texas, despite the poverty and wealth, the trash everywhere, breathing methane, Texans are people of rare character. I spent a portion of my life there in the oil patch, love the oil business in every way and love Texas.
There was a time when I had hope for Paul. I also loved the things Dennis Kucinich said until I found him in bed with oil and defense contractors, shilling for Gaddafi and the Mossad.
Now former CIA and Defense chief, Robert Gates tells us that everything the ‘alternative press’ has said about President Obama and Israel, despite idiotic statements Obama himself has made, is false and that both Obama and Biden are trying to dump Israel as more than a liability and embarrassment but something perhaps “unspoken.” Gates calls them an “ungrateful ally.”
With the Tea Party recently returned from a junket to Tel Aviv, fresh with new ideas, cuts in military pay, social security, veterans benefits and full deregulation of the banksters topping the list, Ron Paul was a hope to many. I so hate writing this.
On the other hand, Ron Paul, worse yet, good friend of one of my best friends, is turning out to be dishonest. Sibel Edmonds gutted Paul this week on her blog and on Veterans Today:
Is Ron Paul Still “Ron Paul?”
Bruce Fein: It Boils Down to‘Principle’
by Sibel Edmonds
Final: The Facts, Bruce Fein, Ron Paul, and
the Next Step
Today is Day 7 on the campaign to raise awareness and alert re Bruce
Fein, the greatest threat to the Ron Paul Camp to date. It may be my last one
depending on the public response and feedback we receive from the already active
and vigilant ‘true’ Paul supporters. I am going to start with one last response
to Bruce-Mattie Fein agents who have hijacked several websites to deflect
attention from the facts and the real issues. If you go and read the propaganda
written by the Feins’ agents you’ll see why I refer to them as ‘agents.’ Either
due to certain omega fatty acid deficiencies or natural genetic misfortune,
these guys slip and make clear their close associations with both Bruce and
Mattie Fein. Now, allow me to provide you with a concrete rebuttal to some of
this misinformation that is being spread and planted by Feins’
agents:“So what if he is representing foreign agents, foreign
governments or foreign groups. He is an attorney after all, and it is his job to
represent these people?”
Last time I checked attorneys represented their clients in
courts. Last time I checked legal cases were not brought by attorneys before the
CIA. Last time I checked lawyers did not argue their clients’ cases before State
Department operatives. And last time I checked legal representation did not
extend to going to Congress, wining and dining representatives, and funneling
money into their pockets. Did I miss something when I checked all this last
time?! Because this is what Bruce Fein writes and markets about the services he
provides for foreign agenda clients, and if you read you hardly, if ever, come
across any mention of legal-attorney representation:“The Lichfield Group features unrivalled government, media, and business
experience. Exemplary is the Group’s high level connections with the Department
of Justice, the Department of State, and the Central
Intelligence Agency, on the one hand, to The New York Times, The
Washington Times, The Wall Street Journal, and nationwide broadcast or cable
networks on the other.Whether a client is a giant corporation handcuffed by ill-conceived
United States government policies or a foreign government anxious to
influence the decisions of Congress, the President, agencies, the
judiciary, or State governments, The Lichfield Group is armed with the skills
and contacts indispensable for success.”Just to show my generosity and kindness towards the IQ-challenged Fein agents
I am going to recap: Bruce Fein is a foreign agent-lobbyist and that has nothing
to do with ‘legal representation.’ He represents foreign agendas before the CIA,
the State Department, the Congress, and the White House… Courts ain’t got
nothing to do with this in-name-only ‘attorney.’ Where did you guys ever hear of
cases being brought before the despicable Central Intelligence Agency-CIA?! What
exactly are this Bruce Fein’s ties and close connections to the CIA and State
Department he keeps bragging about?!
“Bruce Fein is a fine attorney. Regardless of his shady foreign
ties and businesses, as the Chief Legal Advisor to Ron
Paul Campaign he is bringing his highly regarded attorney expertise and
services!”As I am writing this piece, as has been the case
since the ruling
issued by the Congressional Ethics Committee, there is a fine group of legal
experts who are working on getting the Bar Association to investigate and
hopefully suspend Mr. Fein’s attorney license. This is a gigantic public
scandal, not an allegation,
people:“In a statement released on August 5, the House Ethics Committee ruled
that Rep Jean Schmidt has received multiple improper gifts totaling $500,000
from the Turkish Coalition of America (TCA) between 2008 and 2010. The Committee
ruled that Schmidt must pay the money back, However, she will not face sanctions
by the House as she was able to pin the blame for her behavior on her attorneys
Bruce Fein and David Saltzman.”After investigating the case, the Ethics Committee says it was Bruce Fein who
intentionally misled his client Rep. Schmidt and funneled half a million dollars
of foreign lobby money to the Congresswoman. As I stated before,
there are only two possible scenarios here:His two possible explanations for this case would be: 1- I did not tell
my client that my legal representation of her case was part of foreign lobby
money funneling to her; 2- My client was fully aware of the foreign lobby
bribery nature of mylegal representation and services, but to protect her and my foreign
bosses I took the blame. Under either explanation one glaring point remains
clear, and that is the lack of ethics on behalf of the involved attorney-Bruce
Fein.Feins’ agents are out there trying to persuade the Paul Camp to ‘forget
Fein’s foreign lobbyist status and businesses’; that ‘you’ve got a darn good
attorney as your chief legal advisor.’ It is not any of my ‘allegations’ they
are countering here; it is the official findings by the House Ethics Committee.
How is it going to look for Ron Paul and his supporters if and when it is
announced that Bruce Fein is being barred from legal practice due to unethical
practices as an attorney?! Who is going to defend Ron Paul for picking this kind
of an attorney for this kind of high-official position?! What will the public
say? The presidential candidate who picked a crusty foreign lobbyist and a
barred attorney as his chief legal advisor?!I did not have to invent Bruce Fein’s Foreign Lobbyist status. It is in Mr.
Fein’s resume and his past and present practices, showcased by him right here.
Mr. Fein’s intimate associations with the CIA, the State Department and the
White House are not based on any allegations; it is in his resume as written by
him. Mr. Fein’s position and membership in the Neocon Nest AEI is a fact that is
highlighted and used by him when needed.The ruling on Mr. Fein’s foreign lobbymoney funneling scheme is not some rumor; it is in an official congressional
report. And finally, it is very hard for me to believe that the propaganda,
misinformation and personal attacks on me recently could possibly be coming from
any ‘true’ Ron Paul supporter. We are talking about libertarians, and
libertarian-leaning people who refuse to stop the critical thinking process and
readily summit to any authority. Take a look at the following propaganda example
from the Daily Paul website, and tell me if this jibes with the Paul Camp
motto:“I’m all for questioning things, but in the context of a presidential
campaign, our leader is Ron Paul. His decision is to keep Fein. Back him up,
despite your opinions.”- Road Runner on Wed, 08/31/2011 –
13:40.Since when do Ron Paul people advocate for a monarchy-kingdom where followers
must follow their king/leader blindly without question? This is disgusting. A
disgrace to any libertarian minded person! Here is another one:“An adviser may not be central in the campaign, and could be there to
simply “bolster the appearance of the management team”, just like they do with
company investment portfolios. It even might be for the purpose of gaining some
acceptance from neocons by having the AEI adviser, even though RP is not neocon
oriented and might not even take any advice from him. In the end, I have to
consider RP to be capable of making these decisions. He is experienced and may
have some reasons and knowledge that we do not see.” - Big T Wed,
08/31/2011 – 12:25.What are these people saying? It is totally okay if Ron Paul hired this guy
in order to expand his base to include neocons?Okay, I am not going to waste my time with mind-boggling quotes attacking me
personally, advocating a dictatorship style following, planting misinformation,
and most importantly attributing all that to Ron Paul supporters. Instead, here
is my message to all in the ‘true’ Paul Grassroots network: It is okay to think
highly of Bruce Fein’s speeches-writings on State Secrets Privilege and some
First Amendment related topics. I’ve read some of those, and I happen to like
the content.Fein has been in and around the Paul Camp, giving speeches and
interviews since 2008. I had no problem with that. Have the man, pay the man, to
write and publish articles. That’s fine. But do NOT let this man inside as a
strategically positioned insider.Do not let this man become Ron Paul’s Chief
Legal Advisor. A crusty foreign lobbyist, an unethical attorney involved in
money-laundering-funneling for foreign agents, a CIA-State Department Insider, a
known AEI Neocon, a covert Israel supporter, a man who has been playing all
sides-from the ACLU to AEI to Turkey to Pakistan to Israel to Ron Paul…Well,
that kind of man has NO place in the Ron Paul campaign as an insider, and has no
place with Ron Paul.I believe I have said and done my part for now. I have been
in this particular fight for way too long. Causes to fight for have not
decreased but increased. I believed this to be one of those causes worth
fighting for, including taking vicious attacks and insults from Paul imposters.
However, the decision is now yours to make and the next step is yours to take.
In the end, it all boils down to sincerity and principle. Please let me know,
and until then.
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Can one bad apple spoil the whole bunch?
There will never be a candidate that is 100% truthful and appeal to enough people to get elected in a Nation who reveres Rich White Narcissistic Men for government representation who basically lie for a living.
George Carlin:
And I think Americans really show their ignorance when they say they want their politicians to be honest. What are these fucking cretins talking about?
If honesty were suddenly introduced into American life, the whole system would collapse! No one would know what to do! Honesty would fuck this country up! and I think deep down Americans know that, and that’s why they elected and re-elected Bill Clinton. Because the American people like their bullshit right out front where they can get a good, strong whiff of it. Clinton might be full of shit, but at least he lets you know it. Dole tried to hide it, didn’t he? Dole kept saying: “I am a plain and honest man”. Bullshit! People don’t believe that. What did Clinton say? “Hi folks, I am completely full of shit and how do you like that?” And the people said: “You know something? At least he’s honest about being completely full of shit”.
Bill Clinton needed a crooked trial group to spring his ass from a perjury charge. An honest liar, it’s like a skinny fat man, no way, no how.Obama is a schlub, without his Prompter this deadhead sounds like a trout. Obama has screwed everything up and he represents people who want to strip our freedoms away and replace them with chains. Ron Paul is not perfect, he has flies on him, but I vote for a guy who can go toe to toe with Abe Bernanke. Anybody who thinks Bubba was out in the open has a revisionist view of history. He shafted our country with NAFTA, promised the moon and stars and then mooned us. Admit it, we will never get a totally straight shooter, they don’t make ‘em. And, he’d get the JFK treatment right pronto, anyway. According to the more sacrosanct in this group, nobody comes close to satisfactory. To this I say, if you don’t know where you are going, how will you know you got there? Every choice is limited by the amount of choice candidates we have. And, we don’t have too many perfectos, either.
So Bahmi stick with what you Know!Obamas’ Jobs recovery act is Priceless and Failsafe. If most Morons would stop their doubt, denial, and all the other negative attributes I’ve seen and heard spewed out, Tim Osmans, Barry Sotero’s, Barack Hussien Obama’s recovery act WOULD WORK! You are playing MONOPOLY. Some of the Players are HOARDING THE MONEY!-Sticking it in the closet! There is not much monopoly money to play with unless you Pass GO, and get your paultry Two Hundred. Now someone else has decided that it would behoove all the players , to dump 300 Billion on to the table!These players, you, I spend this dumped on money that is not stuck in some closet somewhere, by wealthy 1% elites, not spending in America! You I and Payless shoes starts to generate more income! Tell your Republican COCKSUCKER Representatives, that they need to support this Jobs Act, Or you will vote them OUT 14 Months from now. Do Not fall into the Mockingbird myth that this is just Obama looking for a second term. He has stated very early on-”If I could be a great President for one term, as opposed to a good President for two, I would choose one term…(paraphrased)
It’s 4 o’clock. Time for you to go to synagogue. Not my fault you suck up to Obama, you on his payroll, Gibbs? Fervent believers like you tend to forget this freakshow is all about taking freedoms from us. Look at the dickheads he’s put in as czars. I guess you love having your balls searched by TSA. Less freedoms each day, each week. Tell me how great this oaf is, tell everybody. If freedom means zero, take this jerk Soetoro and thrown him in the Nairobi River. Great president one term? He’s a jackass the rest of his life. Moron wife, extravagant coronation, vacations one after another, times are rough but your boy and you have something going together. He’s getting off by spending taxpayers’ money, the more the merrier. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, and you have little knowledge. Nice try, troll.
Jesus Christ! Do I need to go through this one more time, keep attempting-No Accomplishing the Destruction of Project MOCKINGBIRD!!!? I know you will see a lot of my posts below, Because Project Mockingbird, was what William Colby stated,(Paraphrased)”We own every Media asset of any major Significance…” Most all are spewing the Five Mogul Media owners,(RUPERT MURDOCH), their claims while the CIA Intell group helps sell you the Myth…More to come as I post and have some assholes attack-I actually enjoy this…
Follow through with Tim Osmam, Barry Sotero, Barack Hussien Obama’s American Jobs act and it will go through. Contact your Republican scheisters, and tell them you support this Act-First Transmission(three have disappeared)
You are living in a monopoly game-there is only so much money on the board, and in the’Bank” You only get apaultry two hundred when you pass GO…
Obama’s American Jobs recovery Act induces 300, Billion into the Game-By the less wealthy that spend ALL of IT!
Of all the Republican candidates, Ron is the only one who even remotely is willing to confront the issue. So why throw him under the bus? Why now? How does throwing Ron under the bus help a deliver a new 9/11 investigation? If anything, doing so will simply prolong it.
The timing of this article is awfully suspicious.
I agree with you 100 %
I’d like to but…it may be we’re being gamed…just being given false hope in a corrupt system…
I agree… I always thought we gave some people a pass on the 9/11 issue if they were taking on the big fish. If he ends the fed it will go a long way towards eroding the power of the criminal class, and if he ends the wars that takes their main instrument away from them. I think Ron Paul is tolerated by tptb, but I do not believe him controlled (I may be wrong), and I believe he knows the truth about 9/11 but cannot bring that issue to bear in a primary that is based on who is on reagan’s nuts more and who can fit into sound bytes. If we get a president Paul, I think you’ll see war crimes trials, and a new 9/11 investigation for sure. All that said, Obama is obviously completely controlled, so why not take one last stand at constitutional republicanism before we get inventive… so to speak. I’m not gonna harp on mr. Duff though, because you always have to consider every conceivable probability, and I think any intelligent person has thought that about dr. Paul at one time or another (32nd degree freemason comes to mind). This election will reveal the level of control in our system……. Too many are wide awake now, the sleeping giant is drinking his morning coffee. peace to all.
Ps. most of dr. Paul’s platform is of such a nature as to not be able to be faked. I.e., we’re gonna notice if the fed, fema, and the wars don’t end.
Just wanted to clarify, I am voting for Ron Paul.
Ron Sucks EVAN, and with this Monopoly game, think of it like this -the very wealthy get phenominal amounts of Monopoly money, and they stash it away in the closet, so you and others cannot access it!-We the people Spend this money and are Instrumental in the economy’s Health!
There is no such thing as a water shortage, or a depression, just a RESOURCE ALLOCATION PROBLEM!-Getting that resource, be it water, or Money to the people…Take Head Texas, because if Katrina is because of some Gay pride Parade, why are you all thirsty now????!I have thirteen reasons why and you won’t like any of them -EITHER!
I know a shrink that can help you.
Evan -Yaa Right! Ron Get’s elected Pres, and we have a new Sham, 911 OMISSIONS REPORT-GURANTEED!
I have always believed Ron Paul is a, as Japanese would say “Suberi-domeh”, slip-catch. A rescue device when all is sliding down to hell and it is time for a genuine hero to emerge. As many have noticed, if he was genuine, he would have never had a chance to be nurtured and kept for the Armageddon day. Further, our system of government is not a one man show system. A good president, when virtually all federal institutions, even NIST, NIH, NSF, have been compromised and corrupted at the leadership level, is of no use to fix the system.
(btw. what he says in the audio interview is technically accurate. I would have said the same thing. The government did not ‘orchestrate’ the event. It fully ‘participated’. To ‘orchestrate’ you need to be independent and the ‘planner’. You might want to incorporate others’ participation or not. Our government is compromised and functions only on cue. Of course I have no idea if that is what he meant by saying “absolutely not”.
Well, thank you Art.
I agree, Sam ~ there is a big difference between Orchestrate and Participate and we have more than enough evidence of Mossad and Cia involvement. What bothers me the most is the general feeling among top government officials and politicians that it is more important to protect the government than to find and protect the truth.
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Art wake UP!,Sir. You heard him, I heard him, and everybody here heard him…He said Absolutely Not an Inside Job, because he is a CLASS A-1 Manipulator, like most of them…
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Art wake UP!,Sir. You heard him, I heard him, and everybody here heard him…He said Absolutely Not an Inside Job, because he is a CLASS A-1 Manipulator, like most of them…
I’m not American but if I was and had a vote I would still vote for Ron Paul as the ‘least-worst’ option, purely because his comments to date on foreign wars and the Federal Reserve will be very hard to take back once in office.
I do see the high probabality that he is not the real deal however, not just because of the appointment of Fein and his comments on 9/11, but also the fact that he has been a part of the Washington machine for so long – he has almost certainly gone native or I doubt he would have survived.
I agree with Art above, Paul is a rescue device for the elite, just like Obama, but an even more desperate one. If Paul got in and started spouting the ‘official’ story on 9/11 his approval figures will start dropping fast. But a Paul Presidency would find it extremely hard to build any sort of a case for wars of aggression after his endless public comments, and for that alone it would place the elite in a tighter spot.
I should have added also, Paul’s comments to date on aid for Israel, also crucial.
There is no doubt that THEY would far rather have someone win the Presidency who has aggressively stated the case for blind support for Israel during the campaign, eg Bachmann, Cain, Romney…
Ron Paul is on Alex Jones’ show at least once a month. He knows what happened on 911- he’s just not dumb enough to admit it. I hope he keeps lying about it -he has a bettter chance of being President -maybe if that happens, there will be some chance that the real criminals will be hung for treason and murder.
Exactly !
I agree….they already think he’s a loon….if he gets in the White House we will see the rule of law followed or there will be Civil War and he knows it!
Yaa Rgalton, his presidency would have to finesse, different ways to distribute the Heroin from Afghanistan.
If by some miracle Ron Paul were elected, he would get a visit from the heads of agencies like NSA, CIA, FBI and others; including a bunch of generals, and they would very clearly explain how things work.
The president and Congress don’t run the government, it’s these huge enforcement agencies with they’re ready access to predator drones; et al. The guys with guns and no ethics who absolutely and reflexively follow orders. They have all the real power. You think they’re going to let anyone interrupt this flow of manna coming from the teat of a golden goose FedGod? No, forget about it.
Ron’s only shot to sup at the adults’ table is plausible deniability without alarming his base; and then if and when there’s a another ‘miracle on ice’, well, all bets are off aren’t they?
I must say the timing of this “revelation” is quite curious; don’t ya think?
It’s becoming difficult to distinguish VT from the echo chambers that are beforeitwasnews, huffopost, etc. Oh well, whatever pays the bills. Right Gordo?
Right on! The difference between Ron Paul and everyone else is that he is running for President!!! Of course it would totally RUIN his campaign if he were to come on as anti-Patriotic (to the mainstream). That would give Fox all the ammo they would ever need. His run would be over. Its clear from his discussions on this that he does not discourage truthers, but will not (until it becomes very very clear) ever articulate that he believes that. He will reopen the investigation.
Nonsense. Any (non-establishment) third party would have been better; or even not voting would’ve been a better option.
So what? Who the hell knows why he hired Bruce Fein? Use your imagination Gordon -there are plenty of reasons I could surmise- none of which are close to your wild conjecture. I’m still trying to figure out why we allied with Joseph Stalin- the most evil mass murderer in the history of humanity. Does that make Roosevelt and everyone in our keadership evil? I guess Ron Paul is a zionist agent trying to promote the New World order. Thanks Gordon -I would never have known -Just like I would never have known Ghadaffi was Nentanyahu’s whore -if not for you.
After the Libyan Fiasco, I am really starting to wonder whether this website has any use at all for discerning the truth. It does have entertainment value. I’ll give you that. I can’t wait to see who Gordon endorses- Governor Perry?
Gordon,
I agree with you on most things, but you went off the cliff on this one. There are some positions that Ron Paul has that I don’t agree with (who is os perfect?) but he is the genuine article as far as I am concerned.
1. He will stop the wars and bring the troops home
2. He will begin the process of easing the stranglehold of the central bank and moving to sound money
3. He will stop incentivizing corporations to export our jobs overseas
4. He will stop all foreign aid – including to Israel
5. For 30 years, his message has been consistent
As I said in another post, Bruce Fein is a F*cking zionist, Islamo-phobic, racist bastard and should never have been put on the team. But, I am willing to give Ron Paul the benefit of the doubt that perhaps he needs to dance with the devil in order to get into office. The cards are stacked against anti-zionists getting nominated – and he dare not talk about 9/11 if he has a prayer of getting nominated.
He is not a two-faced liar like Obama. I believe he will do what he says after he is elected.
If not, we are all f*cked anyway, so what difference does it make?
I am voting for him.
Obama promised some of the same things during his campaign. It doesn’t matter anyway. The media has already elected Perry.
Gordon does not realize you keep your friends close and your enemies closer. I’ve always been told to hire Jew lawyers when I needed them for various reasons. They charge a lot but at least they fight for you. Any person that can slug it out at parity with Bernanke can be my president. Obama is a damn fool, poorly educated and people stupid. The freakshow basically is sticking his middle digit up our collective recta and laughing all the way. His economy miracles planned for our future are already being slammed. The dog is Ivy League educated and dumb as a rock. Only idiots like Bob Schieffer and his ilk think Barry’s stuff doesn’t stink. I’d trust Ahmadinnerjacket before I’d trust the guy with 27 social security numbers and who along with wifey both have no legal licenses anymore. He’s a spendthrift fool blowing money on vacations and other crap like nobody’s fool. I detest his wife and like him even less. Both are blithering idiots. The country is sinking like a stone and this albatross around our necks should be skinned and thrown away. He’s a wretched louse, a commie dressed as a Marxist. He needs to be impeached and prosecuted for war crimes. Amazing how those idiots in Iowa love his ass, isn’t it? Must be great going to a rally and realizing the speaker is a WAR CRIMINAL. My rep never says anything about this, we’d be so shook up if we knew the truth. Lying Congress, lying president, sinking country. How do you spell hyperventilation?
You are a tad harsh on Gordon – I would cut him some slack.
Most of the stuff he writes is pure gold. So far, I have disagreed with his take on Ron Paul and on Libya. Everything else has been spot on, with unique perspectives not seen elsewhere. His response to Abe Foxman is a collector’s item, for instance.
c and d
ron is screwed votewise
vt is, by ron pauls standards, quite politically powerful
if he wants to explain his position on 9/11, accept a briefing and make a new statement, he has my mobile
less than that
not enough
Did you send him a request for a briefing through any channels apart from through his staffers? I don’t believe he would refuse a veteran.
This is Ron Paul, not god.
He can’t even get a TV interview.
I was a Washington lobbyist, I am not hard to find.
g
Mr. Duff,
You have a great brain but no soul. You have thrown it under the bus. You do not understand what it will take for Ron Paul to become the POTUS. You will, however, be glad when he is elected. You cannot stop it with your so-called political power. The movement is growing too fast and people can see that Ron Paul (the only man that counts) is genuine. He has been for 40 years. No one has a record like his. Not you. Not anyone. Throw him under the bus along with your innocence.
You his business agent? His clergyman? Just because you say I’m harsh on him means it’s your opinion and if Gordo is usually pure gold, I have some swampland for you. He has his blind spots like everybody. He can be had, like everybody. You cut him some slack so you can assuage your guilt. You probably are one who feels that the score should not be kept in school games. It’s so critical that we all come out as winners, ya know.
FCK ISRAEL Bahmi!
And Bambi Keep Israelli’s are far away as possible, because you can NEVER TRUST THEM!
Gordon has Consistantly warned of Israelli Subterfuge, and False Flag ops..
Confuscious says,”It is better to be hated by your enemies, than Hated by your Friends…”BAMBI!
Tj
During the run up to the anniversary of 9/11, the ADL and groups in Israel have been tasked with positing dumb shit on VT.
You should see what the spam filters pick up?
The numbers..tens of thousands….
poor moderators have to push the “empty” button or our servers would overload.
g
Damn right!
Gordon is good at inspiring debate.
Thanks Cloak and Dagger, then we are all F*cked anyway…then you can wait for the other shoe to drop..
This reply was posted to a comment above not the Comment about Gordon
I think Andrew Jackson was about the last guy that could be considered not in the pocket of the elites. Now a days does anybody even remember what Andrew Jackson did for this country fighting off the international bankers?
Sadly, the only way we will know if RP is somewhat the real thing is if an “I” is inserted in between.
Ralph-
I tell people all the time that the saddest joke was sticking Andrew Jackson’s likeness on paper money.
I voted for Dr Ron Paul in 1988, I had to WRITE HIM IN in 2008, and I will vote for him in 2012, if I can.
Meanwhile, research Odigo
Nan
Paul has to take a position on 9/11.
This is inexorable.
I don’t demand he take MY position.
I will write his position paper for him. It will be clever and deceptive and help him blackmail Israel into funding his campaign.
Oops.
Sorry, didn’t mean to say that.
g
I’m with you, Gordon, the man is an idiot. And just remember, folks, once a candidate is elected, that person only becomes MORE establishment, never less. It’s a one-way function that can’t be undone.
We had hoped Obama was just pandering to Israel to get elected, was REALLY going to stand up to the banksters, was going to end the wars instead of starting more, would REALLY help working people, etc. etc. The reality turned out to be anything but, once Obama had his first meetings with the Mob who run this country from Tel Aviv who told him who they wanted in his cabinet.
It’s gonna take someone a lot tougher than Ron Paul to take on the kosher mafia and Paul has no intention of doing so or he’d be pushing up daisies, long ago.
You’re talkin’ like there’s just a whole shitload of really excellent candidates…so many that you can just pick and choose.
So who do you suggest instead?
Alfred E Newman
Ahhh…”what me worry”…Alfred has charissma and an engaging smile along with his environmental interests too (rubber tree plants) Mad Magazine – it has always been my bible….I reccomend it to all madly sane and crazy people. Of course psychos are not of the intellect so it wouldn’t be of interest to them….
I am holding judgement on the Ron Paul. I appreciate Sibel Edmonds take on Bruce Fein. The Paul camp has not responded yet to Sibel’s article. Ron Paul cannot come out against the official government story on 911. He would be finished as a candidate, however, he has stated on camera that he supports a new investigation when confronted by ‘We are change’ . Anyone whom threatens the ‘status quo’ can be murdered. It is SOP for the ‘MIC’. It is public information that Dick Cheney had his own assassination team. Mossad hit teams operate freely as do other private mercenary kill teams. Many have been murdered attempting to stand against this tyranny now coming to a theatre near you. Ron Paul is far from perfect, yet, at this time, he is the only viable option. We will see how he handles Mr. Fein. Obama is done. No one can believe him anymore. The other candidates are not worth the effort of going to the polls. Mr. Paul is the only candidate that will bring our troops home, stop imperial conquest and end the private Federal Reserve. This is why he still has my support.
Best Wishes for Peace and Justice, Doug
Yaa Doug it’s Al Capone and the Gang have finally gotten elected at one time, or appointed, and have unwielding power backed by corrupt Law Enfforcement….
If we don’t get to the truth about 9-11, and we won’t with Ron Paul, this republic has no future! 9-11 is the litmus test for everything. Evidence exist to a certainty the Israelis and their Zionists minions did this horrendous deed and without exposure and appropriate indictments the Zionists will do it again! The next President must root these Talmudic traitors out or we are finished. Period. Here’s the grim truth: none of the current lot of Presidential Candidates (including Ron Paul), because they will not expose the Zionists/ Israelis authorship of 9-11 can save America. It’s that simple.
Ye of little faith. There is a whole cadre of people digging and scratching for the truth about 911. These people will put together a solid case against our fine war criminals and overthrow Holder, the Waco Flash. Ron Paul won’t have to reveal anything, the real movers and shakers will expose who ever is responsible for this heinous false flag. You have a very peculiar idea as to how government works. It’s like you think non-politicians are chopped liver. You have either ignorance or contempt for hard working investigative types who are doing yeoman work on this project. Please show this group you have more in your quiver than the paucity of truths you insist on pushing off on us. The truth will come, be patient and go to synagogue each Saturday.
Would not surprise me if Gordo is a double entendre. According to him, there is no candidate for us, we are doomed. That’s what happens when you don’t read between the lines. Paul must have a zillion enemies….in the Congress. What a picture the other nite. Obama blabbling with Biden and Boehner in the background. Like them, Gordo? All dirtbags, all owned by Israel. We pay our hard earned money and this is what we get. If Paul is the best of the heap, so be it. Nobody can ever satisfy Gordo, why bother trying, eh? If you think they are trying to break from Israel, I say guess again. Bibi is their pimp, he owns this country and our Congress. Right now, the Jews are taking names and kicking asses, ours. Without incremental progress from our chief executives in the future, we might as well be sharecroppers for the Jews. Maybe we can all be named for our masters. Either we try to break the shackles or we are dead gefiltefish. It’s that plain.
Bambi all my writing that get’s deleted-YOU SUCK GEFELTE FISH,Eh? Cia was founded by Bushy skull and Boners…
Bambi I said lay off Gordon and Post this if you are not a Jew loser.. it would not post…
I’d rather vote for Obama again, the brain-dead whore who will likely start WW3 for the Jews…than vote for someone who has…bad breath…or something really serious like that.
Michelle, is that you, gal?
Isn’t there someplace you should be? Serious discussion and your sophomoric silliness pervades the discussion. Rome burns and you troll.
God Damn, Bambi, someone actually believes you ‘Got talent!!!?’ Hah hah hah-That’s me laughing-Go to synagogue-GIRL!
You his business agent? His clergyman? Just because you say I’m harsh on him means it’s your opinion and if Gordo is usually pure gold, I have some swampland for you. He has his blind spots like everybody. He can be had, like everybody. You cut him some slack so you can assuage your guilt. You probably are one who feels that the score should not be kept in school games. It’s so critical that we all come out as winners, ya know. I can tell that you are Jewish and a website troll. Likely a marrona, too. I can smell the lox on your breath.
Lawyer or not, Ron Paul has never been bought by a lobbyist to do anything unconstitutional and he’s been in the game since 1988.
Bahmi, I think I like you. But I think I like GD too. Just because we don’t agree on all issues does not mean that we can’t work together to find the truth and demand justice. If we don’t stand together, we have no chance.
Kamangeer, I think you may like Bahmi, because you believe her to be a she, yet the reality is she is a he-she…
You are brilliant, TJ. See, nobody likes you and you are envious. Jews are envious people, you fit right in. Are you Sephardic or Ashkenazim? You devil, you had us all fooled…..for about 2 seconds.
I am looking for a date, m2m, rough and dirty.
See? Kamangeer?, GMX knows, and is from the same Elite????! unick, excuse me unit…
I like Ron Paul anyway. It’s not really the government that did 9/11. The government is really a large collection of crooks and fools on the take, wrangling over the best ways to screw the taxpayer. The government wouldn’t have been able to fool so many people. 9/11 was orchestrated by a smaller collection of people, some with government positions, many not. Ron Paul is not a man such people share their plans with. This collection of crooks and fools is easily manipulated by the banisters and folks with trillions. The government isn’t capable of orchestrating anything. Whatever the government touches turns into disaster sooner or later. True honesty is a powerful force. If you don’t believe me, try it for a year or two and see!
Tobey I’ve tried Honesty most all my life, hence my posts. Ron Paul is a ruse, Like John Anderson in the 1980 election, Ross Perot in the ’92 election, and none other than Ralph Nader in the2000 election. Who will be thrown out there to snag votes from the working and middle class in 2012??-So Conservadicks, one third of the people, with poor impoverished morons assisting to get their best interests thrown under the Bus??!
The government isn’t capable of orchestrating anything. -You said Tobey…Jesus Christ!-the list goes on an on of what they are capable of orchestrating-and on a positive note-Kicking the Hell out of Germany and Japan simultaneously, in less than half the time we have been stagnant in Afghanistan, and IraQ!!! Please STFU!
Ron Paul is a man of his generation, he simply cannot believe that American Government officials would plot against their own country. He cannot believe that they would commit this type of treason. He is naive but I do not believe he is being dishonest. Paul was against Clinton bombing Iraq and Afghanistan during his second term in office because it was an illegal act of war.
I would vote for Ron Paul.
Louise just vote for Ayan Rand instead…
Actually I would vote for Obama (but I can’t cause I’m an Aussie).
Well you just another dumb aussie if you admit to voting for Obummer cos you probably are one of the voters screwing up Os….a Murdoch plantation.
D Copsta -I say Throw him under the BUS!
What really happened hair, excuse me here is you just got Bullshited, I say throw the full of it under the bus and be gone with his manipulation of you morons…
So GD you intend to bring out this matter about RP when no other candidate has been as consistent and straightforward as he? Ridiculous.
I might add that the 9/11 truth movement is very unpopular within our our country and if RP even mentioned his intent to re-investigate, he would be sure to lose.
Remember that the title politician is a euphamism for bullsh***r and those in government have to be very PC or else they have no chance for a career.
Which Ron Paul is that?
There seems to be several now.
So TJ, who would be a good candidate? Maybe you just can’t come up with one. Ron Paul’s record speaks for itself. Even fellow republicans don’t like him, the party has tried many times to defeat him in primaries within his district.
He is the only candidate who: continues to push for return of government under the Constitution and protection of the Bill of Rights. No more endless unconstitutional wars for profit or israhell. Ending the feral reserve and the big banks and the return to sound money printed by congress . No more foreign aid. Ending bureaucratic tyranny by elimination. An end to the IRS as well as its thuggery.
Not a bad platform for anybody running for pres.
So who are you gonna come up with to replace him?
Maybe the other answer to scrap the whole works and start over again. Thomas Jefferson warned us that we will have to do so from time to time.
The entire government is so corrupt, so self serving and becoming more and more tyrannical and dictatorial by the day that soon we will have no choice but to do what must be done.
” The tree of liberty must, from time to time, be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” Thomas Jefferson.
Talk about a disinfo campaign!! I’m not totally sure about Bruce Fein, but the man is essentially a spokesman. Can’t believe Sibel Edmonds has hyperventilated over this. Vets and soldiers support Ron Paul above all the others!
Fein does appear to be a real snake. I would like to ask the Ron Paul committee why on earth would they hire this piece of trash. However, he’s not the only one involved: Dennis Hastert from IL. is now a lobbyist for Turkey as are several other former members of congress.
Foreign lobbyists need to go. They need to be outlawed.
Throw Paul under the bus?? Ha ha ha! He’s rich. He’s in no damn danger. On the other hand he says he’ll kill medicare, he’ll kill social security, he’ll cut the banker scum totally loose of all regulation. He wants to throw your gramma under the bus.. he wants to throw MILLIONS of grammas under the bus. Why? Because of some stupid half-baked pseudo-economic crap that a ten year old child could see right through in about twenty minutes of thought. He’s rich. He’s of the rich, for the rich, and that makes him down on the vast majority. He’s a damn “libertarian” which means he’s on board with the Koch boys and all the thieving scum in Wall Street. He’s just a bigger more dangerous version of that worker-hating gramma-hating scumbug up in Wisconsin there.
Just sayin.
Ignorant comment Garbage at best I met Ron Paul in New York and he confirmed that it was out of question to close medicare or social security (if you are a Boomer you will get nothing from Social Security anyway all U get now is a Statement so were Bernie Madoff clients) All he says that it must be a better way to make it work LIKE STOPPING THE WAR all over the Middle East and having Military stations in 160 Countries, our biggest SPENDING. so Stop your propaganda crap IF Ron Paul IS RICH so is OBAMA but not rich as “Scumbag” Dick Cheney and the crew of Democrats in the White house today including the New World Order stooges,CLINTON Husband and Wife, he is an obstetrician so he has the income of a Medical doctor…
THERE ARE ONLY MILLIONAIRES IN CONGRESS REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATS just in case you don’t know that include those you voted for that you believe are going to keep “Medicare”
Ron Paul always expose CORPORATISM, a merging of BIG Government with Big Cartels, which is what Obama is doing the Obama “CARE” is just FORCED PRIVATE INSURANCE ENFORCED BY THE IRS. Nothing “Social” about it , it is Insurance Cartels working hand to hand with Government.
Do I think Paul is an Angel, NO he is a Politicians BUT LOOK AT HIS VOTING RECORD HE VOTED AGAINST THE WALL STREET BAIL OUT EVERY TIME (unlike Obama or McCain) SO YOUR ARGUMENT ABOUT RON PAUL ASSOCIATION WITH WALL STREET IS IGNORANT GARBAGE compare his voting record to the other guys before saying he is going to kill Grandma….HOW MANY IRAQIS AND YOUNG AMERICAN DIED IN THE MIDDLE EAST FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS WHO VOTED AGAINST THE WAR AND WANT TO BRING THE TROOPS HOME ? WHO WANT TO CLOSE THE FEDERAL RESERVE AND IS ACCUSING WALL STREET TO “Privatize Profit and Socialize Losses” ? RON PAUL.
Who you gonna vote for Lady Gaga ?
The best way to do a real Revolution in America and to send a message to the establishment would be NOT TO VOTE at all on election Day
NOBODY should vote….but again Americans are mostly obediant slaves to their Government or sheeple They will never have the guts.
I posted the articles to Face Book, haven’t received so much hatred back since I posted on riches being dangerous to a Christian’s salvation.
Dear God please protect Dr Ron Paul.
Nanette,
Yes. He may well be at risk.
g
I would like to ask a question to WHO EVER want to dump Ron Paul based on that VIDEO :
IF you Declare publicly on the mainstream Media that 9/11 was an inside job… WHAT WOULD BE YOUR CHANCES TO GET ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES ? Be honest.
I personally believe that 9/11 was a False flag operation however If I was running for President of the United States and I had Ron Paul’s IQ, I would not declare publicly that 9/11 was an Inside Job during my campaign BUT AFTER GETTING ELECTED I WOULD PUSH FOR A NEWv COMMISSION TO INVESTIGATE…Use your brain People , Name the Republican or Independent you want to be in the white House after eliminating RON PAUL ? Come on… NAME YOUR CANDIDATE have the guts Give us a name…I really want to know…I believe that some people are more interested to destroy candidates than to do their research on a good one of course it is much easier when you are lazy or hiding your real agenda.
Rey
I was asked some time ago but, at the time, I didn’t have the information to brief Paul. i do now.
Your question is actually brilliant.
Also, however, I am ready to answer it.
g
How about Jesse Ventura? He’s already on record, didn’t care what telling the truth would do to his political career, if he had any further aspirations. The point is, much as I admire Jesse, even he can’t change it from within, it is impossible to penetrate the secret government that rules the country, you won’t stop them at the ballot box.
The post by REY above says it all, RP is protecting himself by not aligning himself with any movement.
Of ALL the R’s & D’s & I’s that are currently in the RUN I choose Ron Paul. BUT I hope he dumps Fein and others like him!
regardless, there simply aint nobody else, it’s Ron or ???; If he looks like he might win, he will need a pretorian guard to save his ass from the evil bastards. I never liked that he is a mason, nor his support for his questioable neocon son, but since I KNOW he means what he says about policies; I cannot give up on him; look at the pathetic choices the stupid republican churchists give us; Obama is afraid,( who blames him?) to stick his neck and his family in the noose; so even if he wanted “change” it’s obvious they cured him quickly. Nothing more scary than getting the job and finding you have no real power, zilch.
First let’s start with the fact that the video is from 2007 when he was being attacked and the “powers that be” gave the “media” marching orders to sink Ron Paul’s rising star. They attempted to hitch him to racism at the time too. They were attacking from every angle in an effort to neutralize him. They want (and still want) him out of the race. Ron Paul is correct to say “absolutely not” …. The GOVERNMENT did not orchestrate the 911 false flag. It is inaccurate to lay out blanket blame to our whole federal government. So Ron Paul’s words are honest and true, as usual. We all know that is an accurate statement. The vast majority of independent researchers have concluded elements within the government, a rogue element (whether civil service, military, contractor) and off shore (other intelligence, military and nation-states) perpetrated this false flag. Further he has recently said he supported an investigation when asked he answered, “Yes, I support more investigation, because, I think the ineptness was probably hidden, because there was a tremendous amount of ineptness. That’s generally what government investigations do, they hide the inefficiencies and ineptness of government officials.” http://world911truth.org/ron-paul-supports-911-families-calling-for-new-911-probe/ I think the man has more intelligence than most are capable of comprehending and he is a genuine master of the English language.
Assuming you are right about Ron Paul do we have another choice? Who would you recommend. As far as I am concerned if Ron Paul does not get the nomination I will waste my vote and throw it in for whoever the third party candidate is, if there is one. Barack Obama definitely not as I am at “Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me”. The rest of the Republican slate is full of abject, pathetic clowns.
Regards.
America has to get rid of all 535 MORONS in the federal government. then clean house. BAND and put in jails ALL LOBBYISTS AND SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS. if you dont do this we will have the same crap again.(((( NO PRESIDENT CAN CLEAN UP THIS MESS.))))
G Duff……surely you know if Ron Paul were spouting in the debates and in ads, that he wants an investigation into 9/11, the media would laugh him into oblivion. They would “kook” him beyond credence.
He has to be able to get in to do the repairs.
He wants also to “End the Fed”, but it scares some folks, so, he talks about competing currencies. He has to remain viable to the general population, first.
Agreed. I think G Duff took it too far with this one. Dr. Paul is a great American and he has my vote and loyal support!
Eric
Selling out 9/11, the basis of EVERYTHING, could have made him millions of supporters or proved to millions of us how big a chickenshit he is.
He chose.
g
Hello, a voice from Sweden here…
In my perspective, You citizens of the now so very sadly Jewnited States, just have to take to arms. Soon. You must fight this Evil Zionism everywhere and with every useful tools and means. You just have to KILL THIS MONSTER. And this time it ain’t gonna be just another hollywood movie where some other guy is the star. So prepare to make your BIG MOVE, whities…
I am voting for RON PAUL. He is our only hope and is the only one running that is not controlled by the Zionists.
Gordon – this HAS TO BE a bunch of total and complete BS! Why are you saying this about Ron Paul? Why not about Romney? Palin? Perrry? Ron Paul is a true American and a Patriot who stands for the common man. I do believe that 9-11 was an job of the CIA/Mossad/Brotherhood of Darkness. Ron Paul is the only one who can start restoring America’s freedom. I believe this audio which you have above is either A) a SET-UP in which a question was asked of Ron Paul and the ANSWER to ANOTHER question was DUBBED IN, or, B) it is Ron Paul playing it safe and NOT WANTING TO BE ASSASINATED LIKE JFK before he is even elected to the Presidency.
Are YOU JEWISH GORDON? Why pick on Ron Paul? Ron Paul has been a man of 100% integrity for the last 30+ years in Congress. He does not participate (does not recieve a pension) in the Congressional Pension Program, has NEVER VOTED TO RAISE TAXES, and ALWAYS DEFENDS THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES (and therefore the citizens of the US).
Another thing Gordon – I have heard others suggest that Ron Paul is a Mason. This is complete and utter nonsense. Perry and Romney are in this club. Why do you think mainstream media attacks, belittles and ignores Ron Paul ? – answer: because HE IS NOT IN THEIR CLUB – he is NOT a MASON. The Masons are evil. Ron Paul is NOT. Ron Paul has the potential to bring down the banksters, and the criminals in government. He has the potential to make America a great country again. He can bring peace to the ENTIRE WORLD, but the Zionists do not want this. They want WAR, POWER AND MONEY.
I’M VOTING FOR THE ONLY CANDIDATE WHO LOVES AMERICA AND HONORS THE CONSTITUTION – RON PAUL!!!! RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT 2012!
Your house is valueble for me. Thanks!…
You realize the mainstream media will destroy him even more if he says he believes the government did it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If he becomes president there will be a new investigation, and it will reveal the truth. I promise. RON PAUL 2012