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Israel and the Upcoming Nuclear War
The “Unthinkable” is Now Inevitable
By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor
The total destruction of Israel, something used by the Zionist lobby to bilk the US out of billions for years, is no longer a dream, it is inevitable. The only question is “when?” With it a limited world war may emerge with some surprises in store. It all started long ago but we can focus back one year when Israel murdered 9 Turkish citizens in an act of piracy, peace activists on an aid ship heading for Gaza. Aid ships heading for Gaza now get a military escort from the Turkish Navy and Turkey’s president is heading for Gaza and Egypt now, to slap Israel down.
A year ago, Israel and Turkey were best of friends. Their spy agencies in the US shared nuclear secrets, sold them to China, North Korea, Pakistan, Brazil, worked as partners blackmailing half of Washington’s army of corrupt officials and traitorous military officers. Patriotism in Washington is rare nowadays, considered stupid. Washington is all about “globalism” and “no borders,” about corporations, not “America.” To most in Washington, America is a joke, a bankrupt “has been” nation drowning in debt with a military now useless, spread across the globe running errands for a cabal of international bankers.
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Until a week ago, the Turkish Army believed it had control of Turkey, despite the elected government. Israel believed the same. They were wrong. A year ago, Israel believed Turkey would always be controlled because of their desire to join the European Union. Now that dream is considered hopeless. Who would want to join anyway, the EU is broke, falling apart and toothless. Turkey, instead, is an economic powerhouse, outdistancing all but Germany in technology, productivity and science.
Turkey also has a huge army, a mobile army and a military tradition of relentlessness and, to be truthful, cruelty. Israel has been pointing that out of late, how Turkey wiped out the Armenians, much as Israel is wiping out the Palestinians. Problem is, Turkey’s army is big, highly disciplined, capable of supporting military operations across the entire Middle East, allied with Iraq, Iran and Egypt and considers Israel’s killings of Turkish citizens last year as an act of war.
This leaves only America or Israel’s nuclear weapons to protect them.
Problem?
Paid stooges in Washington talk about Israel’s strategic importance to the US. That’s a dream, much as the strength of Israel’s army is a dream. There are two strategic allies in the Middle East, Egypt with their control of the Suez Canal and Turkey with their control of the Bosporus, the only gateway to the Black Sea, something of immense value to the US. Turkey is also the gateway for oil from Central Asia and Northern Iraq.
Another factor is Kurdistan. Israel has controlled the PKK, the communist terror group that has killed thousands in Turkey. Israel is threatening to unleash them again. In meetings with leaders in Iraq, however, I was told that Turkish military actions against the PKK, even inside Iraq were welcomed. Kurds in Iraq hate the PKK and have long seen it as destructive. Northern Iraq is closely aligned with Turkey, their economy is totally dependent on Turkey, much more than Baghdad. Hopes for a Kurdish nation are dependent on good relations with Turkey and those relations have improved continually for some time.
One reality is the weakness of Egypt. The Mubarak government, including the military and intelligence services worked closely with Israel as did those of Turkey. It is Israel’s goal to keep Egypt in line. However, with the killing of 5 Egyptian police and the protestors sacking the Israeli embassy in Cairo, that is coming into question.
Israel still has considerable resources in place in Egypt, particularly as we saw on August 11th, 2011, when Bush/Bechtel “envoy” David Welch met with Israeli and Gaddafi representatives in Cairo, at the Four Seasons Hotel, CIA and Egyptian spies in the room, planning bribes to be paid to journalists and “peace activists” in a last ditch attempt to save another Israeli ally, Gaddafi.
Thus, Turkey will be doing a “road trip” to gain allies against Israel and to flank US backing, blackmailing the US. As Turkey has nearly all US nuclear secrets, gotten through their spy partnership with AIPAC, something we were told of when I interviewed FBI informants within the Bush White House, they have things to trade. Turkey can turn out thermonuclear weapons quickly.
Israel’s counter is their partnership with India. India is building long range ICBMs, capable of carrying 10 warheads, also capable of reaching the United States. Israel has requested 10 of those missiles, giving them the capability of hitting the United States with 100 hydrogen bombs. This is not conjecture, this deal with India has been confirmed, the weapons are being built with US technology stolen by Israel (and Turkey) and Pakistan has spies working inside every aspect of the project, no secret to anyone.
China is also aware and they believe they are a potential target of these Indian weapons. Thus, China is transferring advanced technologies, not only thermonuclear but advanced aircraft designs and missile technology to Pakistan.
In reality, from a military standpoint, India overshadows Pakistan by a mile.However, with the US in economic decline and dependent on China to buy US debt, betting against China and their close relationship to Pakistan is inadvisable. Pakistan represents China’s foothold in Central Asia and their access to a port, Gwadar, in the Indian Ocean.
China is dependent on oil from the region and sees the Indian Ocean as an area of strategic value.Pakistan is taking advantage of that.Russia is laughing themselves to death. They helped set up America to fall in Afghanistan, payback for America’s support of the Mujahideen and are enraged at the CIA and US military for its role in flooding Russia with cheap heroin from Afghanistan.
Heroin is destroying the social fabric of Russia nearly as much as drug profits that have infected the US political system have destabilized the US, left the Mexican border totally open and kept the US in Afghanistan as guardians of the largest opium den in the world.
The changes we will see?
Libya’s new government is more than aware of Israel’s interference on behalf of Gaddafi and will become a relentless enemy of Israel, despite false reports Israel has inserted into the “fringe media.” Egypt is in play. Things could go either way, depending on how meetings go this week with Turkey.
With the UN vote on Gaza a given, the US will veto Palestinan statehood, Egypt and Turkey will be pushed together as US prestige in the region crashes.Israel’s reaction under its repressive and reactionary Likudist regime, under attack at home for economic failures, one after the other, will be to push for military action against Gaza.
They may also wish to “play” in Lebanon, taking advantage of Syria’s current weakness. This would be a mistake. Syria will not “go down in flames” like the Gaddafi regime. They are too vulnerable and will lose their place at the table, offset by Turkey, a nation that has an unpleasant history in the region lasting hundreds of years, a reputation Turkey is now trying to repair.
This could also go either way. Israel still has nuclear weapons. Their “nuclear advantage” in the Middle East is now likely to make them a target.
Turkey’s army is more than a match for Israel, not even close. There is little expectation that Egypt will do more than posture as their military under Mubarak became a defensive force only, infiltrated, as is Turkey’s, with corrupt officers.
What will happen?
Israel, with all its planning, its “possible involvement” in 9/11, its very proven involvement in the 2003 invasion of Iraq and its machinations in, not just Washington but Cairo, Ankara and other capitols across the region, is the big loser. Israel is now totally isolated and very much considered sacrificable by the US, despite continual pronouncements by members of congress otherwise.
PHOTOS NOT TO BE SEEN IN ANY AMERICAN
When Israel had to turn against the Democrats, despite the fact that 79% of American Jews support the Democratic Party, and turn to the GOP and Christian Zionists for support, they bought “friends” they would never be able to trust.
For years, American conservatives were known to hate Jews, ban them from organizations, maintain “no Jews allowed” policies at resorts and “ritzy” neighborhoods, under the euphemism of “restricted.”
Red States were always “no Jews or Niggers allowed after sundown.”
This may not be taught in history books but it is real history just the same and the generation of American Jews that remember real antisemitism, not the phony “Abe Foxman” kind, know who their real friends are.
9/11 ISN'T ALL WE LIE ABOUT
Turkey is also a relentless enemy, one Israel will be too stupid to apologize to, too stupid to make reparations to and will depend on its nuclear arsenal and friends in the US for protection.
Nobody will benefit from this, not the Palestinian people, not Egypt, only those who wish to see Israel have their faces in the dirt. There is a problem with this. There was some hope that Israel itself might have a rebirth of democracy, with 500,000 demonstrators demanding the resignation of Netanyahu’s ultra-nationalist government last week, their was a hope.
The other big loser will be the United States. Pakistan will bring China into Central Asia. Turkey may well bring them into the Mediterranean or further.
"RESTRICTED" MEANS "NO JEWS"...SOMETHING MR. FOXMAN FORGOT IT SEEMS WHEN HE MADE HIS NEW FRIENDS
Whether American’s choose to recognize it or not, Bush murdered America’s military future. Social cuts and job programs won’t be enough. America will have to gut its military and withdraw from its bases around the world, that or economically die in less than 5 years.
The only other way out is “debt denial” which requires full cooperation from China and Japan. In light of these issues, these problems, Israel, that “small country” that has so much control over the US government will wake up one morning a forgotten “backwater” in world affairs.
Back in 1981, it looked like Israel would be a peaceful neighbor in a Middle East destined to move forward, maybe not to freely elected governments but at least to no longer be a sideshow for the Cold War.
There were lessons from 1981, when Jews visited Cairo as honored guests.
500,000 Israeli’s, homeless, underemployed, say they can no longer afford, even with the billions America is giving them, to try to run the world from a few acres of sand, now farmed by foreign workers.
If Israel’s extremist government continues its fear mongering, helped along by AIPAC and the ADL in the United States, Israel will not survive. Israel will not die alone, not by a long shot. The problem is that there is no political leader in Israel or within the Zionist community in the United States that seems to care.
The dreams of world domination, as some of us have always seen, never left room for the survival of Israel or any other nation.
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has everyone gone to the hills or private bunkers…? there is a chill of absence to this article…sounds kamikazi too.
Penumbra?????? You have something to say….?
Patience peter, I’ve been out all day and am not in a writing mood at the moment. Rest assured I will add my comments in due course. I see a two edged sword in this article and will give it a few more reads before adding my two cents’ worth.
So glad that was your first impression…Penumbra….a thought crossed my mind that Gordo is on a nuthin to loose spin. THere have been a number of contradictory articles which have not escaped your attention nor othyers….ever since Fetzer got on board it seemed like a take over with Gordon rolling off the last of the big ammo before he goes “guerillero” and ambushes (styled Che Guevara)…meanwhile Fetzer Betzer Tetzer and Karbuncle have got a big medium to lay off a load of disinfo on the less than squared up readers…TJBroncos and PWS plus others aside…not that I am against Gordo, quite the oppo but I have a big problem with Fetzer and a lot of article info thats coming out of VT these days….
Cute!
*shudder*
You never fail to terrify! Just when I was getting ready to sit back with a nice cold brewsky and watch the endless retelling of the 9/11 saga on TV, I had to stumble on your article.
Now I just want to crawl up into a fetal position in my couch and shutter all the doors and windows.
Thanks a lot!
Cand D you should remain in the Fetal Position, because of all those BS Bogus, yet some victiized truth of 911-designed to put you in a fetal position!
28% of our readers are Israelis.
One of our readers is named “D Costa” who has an attention span problem.
….!!!
28% are canaanites? And how many of them write in here pretending to be rabid jew-haters in order to poison the atmosphere and justify all the Foxmanite/SPLC shrieking and counter hate mongering?
Not long ago there was a conference which was reported about in one of the ethnic jourmals (and this is a good example of what Jim just said about gathering intel by reading the enemy’s output!) where it was mentioned there was/is a serious decline in “anti-semitism” which threatened the success of the Zionist cause. It has always been the policy of the Zionists to gin up as much “anti-semitism” as possible because they understand from day one this is the major source of their support and funding.. ie the terrorizing of rich jews in order to extract money from them.
excellent !!!!!
that’swhy a new 911 is pertient…to make sure that israel is integrated to europe if the us fall, which is what thwey are doing, destroying the economy and the people… a new 911 is coming… and israel will provide saudis with the nuke to counter balance iran or even turkey
28% of GD’s readers or 28% VT readers?
What makes you think Gordon is writing as Pro Jew. I dont get this from this piece. Most people know very well the mossad had a lot to do with 911…zionists owned the bldings, insured the bldgs, had offices in those bldgs. The fact is the WTC was filled with asbestos and other horrific chemicals those bldgs had to come down…they joined with sadist Cheney and got a two fer.
A cooperative venture of gangster groupings.. just like when the Jewish mob hooked up with the Italian mob under Lucky Luciano. As a matter of fact, that’s about the time the US intelligence “gang” got hooked up with them as well. However, besides being an “anglo” gangster, Cheney was also hooked in with the Straussite crowd. He and his wife are known Straussites like the neocons. In this respect, Cheney has a unique place in the history of American gangsterism (ie politics). He is the focus of a lot of diverse factions which have coalesced into the Big Con currently responsible for the meltdown of the US as a house of republican virtue, transforming it completely into a gangster anarchy.
A nightmare from the sandbox.
Just awesome.
Scary stuff, G.
I’m sweating though the AC is running at full speed.
Thanks from Pakistan!
From a prophecy viewpoint, I don’t think Israel will be destroyed. In rejecting Jesus Christ, they will hail the coming antichrist as their long awaited Messiah. The antichrist will have his headquarters in Jerusalem. Now the U.S. has funded Israel so it’s very possible that America will be destroyed. We are headed for the Freemasons WW III unless we receive a miracle from God. Man doesn’t seem to be able to stop it. This documentary provides us with a supernatural means to stop it: http://www.heavenskeytopeace.com/
Dolorosa, we are heading for a miracle from GOD!
Jeebus is on strike, but mighty Thor is shining up the BIG hammer. There will be plenty good seats in Valhalla after the coming battle, methinks.
As the current Chosen One, I have decided there are too many “vested interests” to defend. As everyone appears to feel they are right even though everyone – in some way at least – is wrong. Those with the biggest mouths are the most heard. From God’s perspective the satanists are at least prepared to explore the “unexplorable” which is beyond the fathom even of the so-called Zionist. In that way the satanists infer they are prodigal, which is a far cry from all the other voices. We are building to a dumb armageddan play where Zion feels the true king will be revealed by obliterating everything that stands in his way. If peace were found on earth it would not last a generation. You zionists have no clue as to God’s plan. You will never “force it”. If any of you are prepared to put on your spectacles and look at your natural world for clues as to God’s intent, you will be shocked at what you discover.
I don`t think the bible will apply here, it is used only as evil men find it useful to appear as if it is true. It is not.
http://www.evilbible.com/
http://jesusneverexisted.com/
http://giwersworld.org/
Each will get what they have sown. There is a special place in Hell for the Israelites, however.
Israelis not “Israelites”. These Talmudic clowns have absolutely no link to the ancient Israelites, never did, never will except in their own fevered imaginations.
Yeah, I know, but they still live in Palestine, which they conveniently renamed “Israel”. That makes them Israelites, usurpers or not.
Exactly, Pen!
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IF Isreal does not come to its senses and recognize Palestine the Palestinians will be “genocided”!
IF things get that bad I sincerly hope GOD starts the World anew!
Mankind has their chance.
Extinction is a normal part of the world’s development.
There are MORE EXTINCT SPECIES than LIVE!
You know I can’t say that this would be a bad senerio if it gets rid of the Traitors, and the Duel Israeli scum from our “Republic”! Without these scum I believe the US “Republic”, and it’s people could survive nearly anything!
I do beg to differ with you as far as the US Military being murdered, as such. I am sure many Vets would glady volunteer if needed for the defense of the immediate “Republic”! I would do everything I could as long as my heart still beats!
We do not need Empire!
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I also think the US can actually take care of itself without anyone else’s help, or resources! Especially the Banksters!
We should definitely be able to reinstate the US Constitution! And we do not need Empire!
Like you said Mr. Duff, Israel is TOO STUPID to appologize to Turkey, and they deserve what they have given, TEN FOLD!
I will not cry for that government, maybe for the innocent peoples, but definitely not the government and those who support it!
Maybe at that time we could also actually pay them back for the numerous acts of war against us that have been covered up, by delibertely NOT HELPING them! That would be in our best interests anyway!
A LEECH GONE!
WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND! I only hope that our TREASONOUS government’s actions do not come back to haunt us too!
How solid is this info Mr Duff?
I’d like to say something off the subject also, I have been watching football today, and they are having the tributes to the hero’s of 9/11, ie: First Responders, Police, etc. which is very much deserving, but what gets me VERY upset is that not once have I heard a thing about the troops that have died for the LIES of 9/11!
It makes me sick to hear these people talking about 19 hijackers, etc., basically the “Official Story”, when there is SO MUCH indisputable evidence that proves this a nothing but a lie, and actually TREASON!
I pray that “WE” can change this soon!
Remember 9/11 and The USS Liberty, both done by the same COWARDS!
Restore The US Constitution!
US, Republic First, Always!
US Army Veteran,
Marc C. Daniele
Herculaneum, Mo.
One last thing I learned today, did anyone else know that US/Israeli Duel Citizens are the only ones that can serve in US Public Office’s, etc., yet vote in Israel, and hold public office there, etc. without losing their US Citizenship? ONLY Israeli’s, everyone else would lose their US Citizenship! WOW!
No member of public office in Australia is allowed to hold citizenship in any other country, even New Zealand or Britain. I totally agree with this policy.
I believe the US should have a crack down on its current policy. No member of public office should be allowed to hold citizenship of any other country.
I agree with you but they always have their ways.Do you know how many Crypto Jews live among us And around the world ? After the expulsion from Spain in 1492 they were advised to take up different names that depends on the majority of the religions in the contry they enter .Do you really believe that we have
only 2% of Jews in America ? Christian Zionists who support all the Jewish causes against the interest
of America without being criticized ??
Marc, -At least you can Listen to the rubbish. I cannot even stomach any of it!!!
the spiritualist speak of a “GUT” feeling,- I can’t stomache it in my “GUT”…
Dear Marc, Gordon and other denizens of the Vets Today corner of the web,
While I read this article, chills ran up my spine. About two years ago, Cliff High at the halfpasthuman site had written one of his linguistic-based prediction reports saying that Israel would make a mistake that would cost them dearly…probably resulting in their erasure from the maps of history. When the reports began to surface of Israel’s collusion with Libya and the invasion of Egypt’s Israeli embassy (with more documents surfacing), I knew that Cliff had hit another home run.
If there was ever a country that embodied a huge karmic debt for their treachery and bad behavior, it is Israel. The fact is that nobody wants to deal with a country or people who continuously break their promises and then say that “the Holocaust made me do it.” I don’t know what REALLY happened in WWII, but I do know that there have been many genocides since where the truly deserving victims were ignored while the world has been told over and over how the Jews have suffered.
The truth is that most of the people in Israel are Khazars. The Khazars are an indo-turkic-aryan tribe that adopted Judaism to avoid being absorbed by the Muslim countries on one side of them or the Christian countries on the other side. The greatest irony here is Israel being taken down by their blood relations–the Turks.
Much as Marc pointed out, far too many fine soldiers and heroic firemen/police and others were sacrificed on the altar of Israeli ambition. I mourn them. I mourn the brave people trying to get supplies to the poor beseiged Palestinians. I am afraid that I cannot mourn Israel’s leaders. They have destroyed the world trying to gain ownership to it. They have impoverished billions for no reason other than their apparently inexhaustible greed and salving their immense inferiority complexes.
There are bound to be good people in Israel. There are good people everywhere. However, their country and its leaders are no good–for anybody.
MK
According to both the early-20th-century popular historian H.G.Wells and the Hungarian-Jewish intellectual and author Arthur Koestler, amongst numerous others, the people known today as Jews are primarily the descendents of a Turkish tribe known as the Khazars. The Khazars have no historical connection to Palestine. They converted to Judaism between 620 and 740AD, and have no genetic connection to biblical Israel, and hence to the narratives of the Bible and the “Holy Land”. Koestler actually devoted an entire book called The Thirteenth Tribe (1976) to the fact that the Jews of eastern European origin, who are known as the Ashkenazi Jews and who make up about 95% of the Jewish population of today, are of Khazar origin. In other words — virtually all of the Jews of the modern world have no Hebrew ancestry, and no ancient connection with Palestine.
Does it matter? Does world peace matter? Do the human rights of a violently oppressed people matter? Does anything but sport and television sitcoms matter?
Arthur Koestler was by no means the first to draw attention to this particular issue. He quotes from 20th-century works on the subject by, amongst others, Professors A.N.Poliak of Tel Aviv University, D.M. Dunlop of Columbia University in New York, and J.B. Bury of Cambridge University. The courageous Jewish anti-Zionist commentator Dr Alfred Lilienthal raised the issue 50 years ago and has continued to do so for decades. In fact, the famous H.G.Wells in the early 1920s in his popular Outline of History described the Jews as “a Turkish people” and stated that “[to the] Jewish Khazars … are to be ascribed the great settlements of Jews in Poland and Russia” (Chap. XXXII:8) and “The main part of Jewry never was in Judea, and never came out of Judea” (XXIX:1).
The Khazar story has long been refuted:
Concerning male-line ancestry, several Y-DNA studies have tested the hypothesis of Khazar ancestry amongst Ashkenazim.[75][76][77] In these studies Haplogroup R1a chromosomes (sometimes called Eu 19) have been identified as potential evidence of one line of Eastern European ancestry amongst Ashkenazim, which could possibly be Khazar. One concluded that “neither the NRY haplogroup composition of the majority of Ashkenazi Jews nor the microsatellite haplotype composition of the R1a1 haplogroup within Ashkenazi Levites is consistent with a major Khazar or other European origin”[76] and another that “if the R-M17 chromosomes in Ashkenazi Jews do indeed represent the vestiges of the mysterious Khazars then, according to our data, this contribution was limited to either a single founder or a few closely related men, and does not exceed ~ 12% of the present-day Ashkenazim.”[75]
Marc:
The Republic of Ireland has an identical dual citizenship arrangement with the U.S.
I have a point to make of which you may not be aware. The Armenian genocide was, to the best of my knowledge, carried out by “young Turks”. The Young Turk movement was pretty much entirely composed of Jews. Please read:
Jews, Zionists Behind Armenian Genocide Holocaust
http://www.rense.com/general64/genoc.htm
And you do need to read about what really happened in Russia. The Controversy of Zion is an excellent book to start on, but there are quite a few more. They are old, and I bought mine second hand through Amazon. But I had to confirm what I had learned. It was so horrific. When you understand who the Bolsheviks were (majority Jews) you will be able to believe that the Young Turks were actually Jewish.
Barry Chamish, a well known Jewish writer, confirmed this some time ago.
As for a war that will wipe out Israel, I have heard this before, and just hope, like everyone here, that somehow this horrific scenario will not be carried out. However, they have pushed their neighbours too far, and the rest of the world is learning to turn against them too.
@ Daphne O’Brien
“The Controversy of Zion” as a PDF file is hosted on all over the Web as a free and (apparently) legal download. If anyone wants a copy, google
“The Controversy of Zion” pdf
and download and read it.
Daphne O’Brien
Correct! ,
The Young Turk movement was pretty much entirely composed of Jews.
Great article and I agree that Israel is now heading for complete destruction. It didn’t have to be like this, but decisions made, including 9/11 but many others too, have made it almost inevitable.
Curiously it may actually be a U.S. first strike which does it, to prevent use by Israel of the ‘Samson Option’, which has the potential to kill hundreds of millions.
I suspect a large part of the reason for the missile defence shield in Europe is also to counter the Samson Option rather than Iran, which currently has no nuclear weapons and very crude delivery systems. This is why Russia has also tacitly agreed to it, subject to certain demands of course.
“We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions…We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.”
- Martin van Creveld (professor of military history, Hebrew University)
rgalton, I agree with you , Also I have to say , we possess more than several hundred atomic warheads The last inventory shows 5900 Nukes…Israel has 200
Peace (if possible)
Let this fact illustrate, it would take six medium hydrogen bombs to destroy the population of Russia and China. Six……..that’s it. It’s all in the wind. Teller was “I am become death”, Oppenheimer mispoke.
The war goes on forever, and the jewish jihad never ends.. or maybe after centuries of deception it will?
Only until messiah comes in the end will it end, so they say, so that they cannot accept any messiah before the end.
Without wanting to sound alarmist but, a nuclear war in the middle east would indeed result in the total destruction of Israel. However since the early 1990′s Germany has both donated and sold at heavily subsidized (by the German taxpayer) price tags a number of Dolphin Subs to Israel. These are capable of launching nuclear armed missiles.
I have also read over the years of Israel’s resolve that should she go down in flames so to speak she will also take several well known capital cities with her by way of nuclear strikes. Topping the list are London, Paris, Berlin, New York, Moscow to name but a few. Given the fact that these subs can go silent and be undetectable it is certainly within the realms of possibility that Israel would go ahead with it’s threat. At the very least it would tend to rule out a first strike rendering Israel harmless.
It is unthinkable that the US Navy does not know where those subs are, every second of every day, just as it does Russian and Chinese subs. And could sink them easily.
They are not silent and a US first strike against Israel would be quite simple.
I certainly hope you are correct. The Israeli psychopaths leave me with an uneasy feeling. I dismay at the thought that the world is on the brink of a new age of prosperity for all and could be ended by a small group of lunatics.
and of course we are relying on the US Military doing the right thing. After witnessing 911 unfold that is quite a gamble. Who is to say that the military won’t once again turn a blind eye to Israeli aggression. Remember the USS Liberty.
The question is, would the US military allow Israel to destroy civilization? I think not, and I don’t think that the bought and paid for Congress, mainstream media or executive would get a say.
The US military has long been subverted into a bastion of sociopathic Armageddonists. Do not think for one minute the lives of the average citizen (whom a significant majority of US military personnel have indicated they would willingly kill or suppress in the event of any declared “national emergency”) mean jack to this institutionalized death and destruction cult.
After all, if they nuke the world (or let it be nuked) Jesus has to come back and whisk them off to meet Peter Pan in never never land.
Time to grow out of the childishly naive illusions about honor and sacrifice and see this corporate kennel of indoctrinated thugs for what it is. Go read Smedley Butler for starters.
Yes, read Smedley Butler, but read Albert Pike’s letter to Mazzini too, and realize that “Political zionism” means the United States, Britain, and Israel!
Remember the USS Liberty? How about something much more recent? 9/11!
http://factsnotfairies.blogspot.com/2010/03/global-national-intelligence-services.html
http://jewsvszionists.wordpress.com/2008/05/24/why-did-israel-betray-america-usa-911-the-israel-connection/
BS, Israel is the NAVY intel.
It seems after assasinating him, Israel has adopted, Kennedy’s M.A.D., Mutual Assured Destruction…Yet Get Real, that means EVERYBODY DIES!!!!!!!
Yes, the subs! The subs! That has to be Job One. Track the subs! Shadow them. Be prepared to take them out the very second it becomes necessary!
To get really shit scared, read Trowbridge’s whole output on the Palme assassination. The sub antics up the Baltic were the basis of the thing. It’s maybe comforting to imagine that the Navy knows where all the subs are.. but any Navy men can tell you it just isn’t like that. That’s the whole point about subs.
Any submariners around here?
I agree entirely, the unleashing of the Samson Option is already a done deal to complete the destruction of the world’s population down to around 10% of the current total, alongside the predicted (HAARP induced) 30 year drought over Asia, Africa, and parts of the Middle East (though one part can always be assured of plenty of rain). The film ‘Under the Shadow of Hermes’ by Juri Lina tells how British, American and German Freemasons in the very early 1900′s approved of a 10% post ‘revolution’ (slaughter) survival rate and were satisfied that their agents Trotsky and Lenin were achieving their agreed objective. Kissinger’s ideas of a world population of 500,000 is a continuation of this Bolshevik racist ideal. Those subs need to be taken out of commission now, the state of Israel made illegal and it’s terrorist weapons of nuclear blackmail disabled. To do this we must ban all double agents like Obama and Cameron and Sarkozy etc. from ever applying for political office.
ELF frequency, they all know. Soviets, USA, UK, maybe Germany.
If NY or Washingtron goes under Israeli nukes the UsGov will have gone to deep undercover bunkers to carry on the good fight – by deep I mean in excess of 2 miles and about 131 of them that apparently are completely self contained for the elite tickets – all othere take cover under the sky…
If NY or Washington get nuked then the USGov will have high tailed it to one of 131 deep underground bunkers some of which reach 2 miles where they are entirely self contained and available on elite tickets…the rest have to take cover under the sky…
It seems that the people in charge of the Systematic Theft of All would not mind at all if Israel were destroyed, because I doubt that the people who are really in charge live in Israel. They would sacrifice the Israeli people perhaps to distract us, just another trick. Would you live in Israel if you were ruler and beneficiary of the Systematic Theft of All? The bed bugs are scattered about, is my guess.
The Talmudic prophecy has always been that the “Holocaust” (burnt immolation) of Six Million Jews would usher in the Messiahs return.
The plan from day one has been to get six million Jews into Palestine and then light the sacrifice!
I’m confused, Israel is facing a diplomatic deadlock and a deterioration in its international standing yet Standard & Poor’s announced recently that it has raised Israel’s credit rating from A to A+.
What’s up with that?
Standard and Poor’s along with other “ratings” agencies are owned and operated by and for the ponzi schemers, do you really think their ‘ratings” mean anything other than a celebration of more extortionist con jobs in the pipeline?
Its all a cover for massive sovereign debt transfers (the fruits of the labor of untold billions) into increasingly fewer offshore accounts…. do you hear the “great sucking sound” yet?
I have for a long time Pen, and spend countless Hours expressing this to others… Thank God(IKnow you don’t believe) -yet Thank God for you and others that understand this and expose it as should be!!!…
It doesn’t look to good to Americans that the U.S. rating went down and the Israeli one went up, especially when it had to do with pro-Israel neocon Republicans opposition to Obama’s debt ceiling increase that led to the U.S. rating going down because of neocon economic hypocrisy. Let’s connect the dots here.
Bed Bugs all, ha ha ha, When my hotel became infested I was so happy to see the exterminator arrive and stop them in their tracks. No one cried, and they all died, including the ellusive queen who was deep underground in a burrowed out pocket next to the five pointed sewer connection. Ah, and after the air cleared the tourists began to return, and all the cultures again began to share and exchange their wares. Art returned, and no one seemed to want to speak about the terrible memory of the sad times, when the Bed Bugs infested the earth. The exterminator is coming soon. I love it.
Let’s make up a list of the assumptions the article is making:
1- Turkey is turning against Israel.
I have yet to see a single irreversible act or decision against Israel by Turkey. Turkey is actively involved with Saudis and Mossad and CIA in infusing mercenaries into Syria to reenact Libya scenario. Erdogan and Davudoglu have both made lacerative comments against Assad. Turkey can still turn out to be a big Trojan Horse in ME. If Syria falls, Israel will unleash hell on Lebanon, and NATO will go after Iran. Then Turkey and Israel will come out uncontested powers in MENA for a long time. It is very much worth going thru an elaborate Kabuki play to snow every one.
2- Libya and Egypt have been rescued away from Zionist influence (and can now join Turkey against Israel).
Not supported by a shred of evidence on the ground. How could Libya be rescued from Zionists by half of the world’s fire power in the hands of three Jews.
3- The west is turning against Israel to the point of annihilation.
We are some how supposed to forget that US, UK, France, and Russian government heads are all Jews.
4- Israel’s involvement in 911 is (suddenly downgraded to) a ‘possibility’.
5- US’s debts are to Israel.
With or without Israel, US has to pay debts to Israel’s mother.
Hoping these assumptions are true gives any decent person good feelings. But talking about them as if they are actually true does little more than disarming and misguiding people.
Art you sound like Bill O’Reilly on Fox news…
Art, if any country in the world has to choose between the USA and Israel they will choose the USA. Many of America’s friends are only nice to Israel because they love America – Canada, Britain, Australia, New Zealand to name a few.
Turkey is one of the five most important countries in NATO, if there is a stoush between Turkey and Israel over ships going to Gaza, everyone will be on Turkey’s side.
The Egyptians people will not elect a government that supports Israel.
Oil in the Middle East is more important to France and Britain than Israel.
The Libyans will not be electing a government that supports Israel.
The Twin Towers were owned by Silverstein the guy who said ‘pull it’ about building 7.
My case is closed.
Louise,
With all due respect to your obvious sincerity your characterization of geopolitical alignments as a matter of “friendship” is a tad naive.
Nations do not have “friends” nor offer “friendship” such as one seeks or offers within the sphere of interpersonal relationships. The guiding ethos is simply one of pragmatic expediency for the greatest facility for securing “interests” for the governing oligarchy. The determining considerations themselves are far removed from the popularly perceived motivations of “the masses”. That is to say, what many of the plantation dwellers may wistfully express as a sentimental attachment to the idea of international relations between the US and any other given nation, are little more than the expression of consistent and repeated marketing by the globalists of a useful narrative, for as long as it serves to advance the incrementalist agenda.
Absent any unexpected volte face in the long march of the chess pieces, the narratives as understood by the bulk of society remain fairly consistent, but can change on a dime to present perceived friends as sudden enemies without much popular resistance, leastwise in the US, due to deeply ingrained compartmentalized and decontextualized perceptions of events and the agencies behind those events respectively.
Thus the nations you mentioned are, in the end analysis, not driven by the vicissitudes of “affection” for the US so much as they presently obtain greater leverage for their own positioning by remaining “onside”. That, however, is steadily proving to be more of a liability than an asset. Word to the wise, do not discount some surprising shifts in strategic alignments in the years to come as the prevailing paradigm of unipolar superiority finally loses its market appeal. The emperor has no clothes, after all, just a big vicious bludgeon.
I come from one of the countries that I mentioned are America’s friends. We can see America’s faults, in fact we are all pretty pissed off with the wars and the way that America has shamelessly supported Israel, but when push comes to shove America will never stand alone.
By the time Pearl Harbour happened the US could already read Japan’s codes, but every other ally the British had was already in the war and we were losing the war.
Yes, most countries in Asia already realise that ‘the emperor has no clothes’ but our region would like to have a security framework that is ‘balanced’ anyway. The ASEAN countries have already told the US not to start a cold war with China and India. The US needs to learn how to work along side others and how to be part of a team.
One of my country’s diplomates put it this way – often we have just lay on our backs with our legs in the air waiting for America to tickle our tummy, but it is better for both of us when we are honest and say what we think.
It seems like Israel’s involvement in 9/11 is absolutely shocking! See for example:
http://factsnotfairies.blogspot.com/2010/03/global-national-intelligence-services.html
http://jewsvszionists.wordpress.com/2008/05/24/why-did-israel-betray-america-usa-911-the-israel-connection/
Heck, they appear to have orchestrated the whole thing for reasons with which many of us are familiar. If this could only get out in the mainstream media, we might be able to save America AND the world, but I’m doubtful! How could anyone get past the headline (Israel–with a little help from our CIA, an incompetent (bought and corrupt?) FBI and a few bought and corrrupt (and evil!) politicians…”did” it?”) Not one newspaper in America would publish such things. Even those in the “9/11 truth movement” as is this writer, can’t mention Israel or the Mossad in connection to the horrific events of 9/11/01. How long will the dilussions last?
Seeing alk the recent events and roght before the palestenian UN bid, could it be possible israel wantd war rather than give back land? I mean to know hoe utterly upset turkey is and then to taunt them by saying its just spilled milk and then to have their bad cop suggest to perhaps do some nasty things like support terrorists against turkey. To top it all off, they “accidentally” killed 5 egyptian cops when thats like the worst thing o do when yer neighbors are already rioting.
It seems like they are utterly incompitent or these actions are all by design. time to sacrafice all the israeli lambs they paid to move there and “settle” the land? its either civil war if they give up the land or lets fight the arabs again? just speculating……
Thanks Gordon for yer perspective on things… Some of the
You have gone too far this time Duff!!!!
This article is out of bounds and offensive!!!!
It’s time for God’s Chosen to leave this backwoods slum of America and move onto greener pastures!!!
America can no longer provide the support Israel needs anyway!!!
It’s time to implement operation:Hillbilly-kill!!!
Time to detonate all of the nuclear bombs in the basements of our Israeli embassies and consulates!!!
Time for the Chosen ones to go on vacation and leave the mainland USA!!!
I heard Israel is nice this time of year!!!
If you think I am bluffing than Google= Israeli NYC Embassy A Radiation Hot Spot?
I’m tired of the ungratefulness of the American people!!!
Good Riddance!!!
Remember we we warned you?!?!
Never again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sincerely,
Abraham H. Foxman
National Director of the Anti-Defamation League
heh heh. nice one. and unfortunately not far off the mark !
If Israel really has a nuclear arsenal, then why would they try to steal U.S. cruise missiles in the Minot-Barksdale incident in August 2007?
“By means of deception shall we make war”
Minot Barksdale thefts were by Americans, Christian Zionists of the Dominionist cult.
Several of them had serious and fatal accidents after this, one general committing suicide by shooting himself several times and then disposing of the weapon.
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Google? Google? Never. Who owns Google? A pox on Google.
Google is a major tool for recording and reporting possible dissident activity to the relevant fascist agencies, use Ixquick it keeps no record of searches.
The European have agreed to set up a combine military base in Europe for Europe. Britain is against being part of it. So now we know why Strauss Kahn became damaged goods. Britain is too close to Israel and the EU does not need a president who is align with Israel as much as Strauss Kahn is.
Good to see Turkey stand up to Israel and I am sure the EU will support them if there is an issue.
Actually the EU has a 6 month rotating Presidency, as such, which places the heads of each member state, in turn, upon the dias. However, all that and 5 cents (as they say) wouldn’t buy you a cup of tea in China. It does give the talking heads as turn at the lead mic in meetings of the Council of Ministers, but little more in terms of global leverage.
As for DSK, he was handed more of an opportunity than a set back in the short-run spectacle. Remember that the French expect scandal from their leaders, and would be suspicious of any who appeared too spotless, especially in the realm of sexual indiscretions. DSK now has the tribal “victim” card to wield in his renewed push upward on the poltical ladder. Await the rebranding that will likely come in the not too distant future, once the public attention span has been sufficiently diverted to other momentary spectacles or threats (such as the imminent collapse, or threat thereof, of the EU project itself). The precursors are already rolling out soundbite by soundbite across the media (both MSM and alternative).
Peter, it most certainly has successive “residents”.
A factional dispute between rival stooges of the banksters. Traditionally the Europeans control the IMF and the Americans control the World Bank. For example, Wolfowitz was head of the World Bank at the time of the Indonesian tsunami.. (exposure of the details of which supposedly got Joe Vialls murdered). DSK’s replacement, Legarde, is a longtime stooge of the CIA, ie the American wing of the banksters enforcement squad, whereas DSK was an extreme Zionist associated with Mossad. DSK wanted to lighten up on the banker demands of destroying all public functions of the states preyed on by the IMF so the banksters on this side ordered the kibosh put on him. He actually knew of this threat and told friends in Paris that if he was charged with some bizarre sexual antics in New York it would be a setup. ALSO it seems Sarkozy was deeply hooked in with CIA having been raised by Frank Wisner’s kid.
Oh what tangled webs!
Presidency of France was what I was talking about. Strauss-Kahn is even more Jewish than Sarkozy.
And yes the Brits are an annoyance when it comes the EU, they would like to see the Euro fail because it is replacing the Sterling as the most traded currency.
I believe that India, Pakistan and Afghanistan will join the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation and they will all work together to make the area peaceful. The upside of the Russians and Chinese is that they tend to shoot drug smugglers, terrorists and separatists. This organisation will add to the work that the US led war has achieved. I doubt any part of Pakistan will become separated from it. The SCO will be like the EU in that they will do a lot of trade with each other and they will have defensive security in place so that the region is secure. I do not believe they will be a counter weight to NATO. China wants trade and resources it is not interested in wars.
India is not likely to become Israel’s bitch. India tends to just grab whatever it can out of every relationship it has. No country should ever rely on India being an ally, regardless of what you have given them.
Israel is not likely to take on Turkey, I doubt they will even try to do a false flag.
I have it from on high; the U.S. will not undergo a nuclear war and we will get resurrected through hard times.
Israel will not fall so easily, in fact it is destined that it will wage war to gain further territorial land and capture the arab oil fields to blackmail the western world justifying it as defence against” islamic fanatics” who want justice for those oppressed for decades under U.N rules and regulations. these jews know your mettle and have subverted and infiltrated all your organs of fighting war and intelligence (Pollard case comes to mind).
to understand its demise you have to go to islamic texts stating its end when the sea of galillee drys up in northen israel which is its portend predicted the prophet mohammed (pbuh).
Israel cannot exist without its support from the western world christians, it will embroil you in a religious war with muslimsTHE PROPHET MOHAMMED (pbuh) STATED THAT THE CHRISTIAN NATIONS WILL STAND UNDER 80 BANNERS OF 12000 SOLDIERS EACH AND INVADE MUSLIMS LANDS near the end times. what will israel do for you christians to do this???
most christians are blind to the israeli subterfuge going on and are easily led into doing what they want against humanity and its values!
the destruction of the western nations will be by Russia and China will attack america for its machinations against it through taiwan and south korea(god knows best) these predictions are foretold by a muslim saint of the 9th century called NEMATALLAH SHAH WALI whose name you can google to read all he stated which has come true to time,place,name and country exactly stated by him!
can you afford to ignore his predictions?
mr gordon duff states what is true as he sees it, we have to give him credit for that as it is based on factual evidence to a large extent, the rest will be as time unfolds it.
does it have to be like this? why can we not respect each other and act in a manner to live and let live?
why do we tolerate known evildoers in positions of power lording over us and setting in motion mass killing all over the world?
did any of these rulers childrens die in anyway while yours did?
did they lose arms and legs or eyes while you did?
why can we not see that we need to stand up for truth,humanity ,peace and tolerance and not war,lies and mayhem?
the historical fact is that unless we recognise between falsehood and truth we are destined to act out in this manner and those who manipulate us will go on doing so successfully as they have done in the past!
Blame the Jewish owned media. Blame the Jewish controlled educational system that forces 13 year olds to go through an intense holocaust educational program. Blame Hollywood and television for implementing this program of mass mind manipulation.
Hell, Its not like Muslims hands are clean from Jewish influence. Far from it.
It’s just wayyy easier for Jews to infiltrate White Christian societies at every level because they look ‘white’. they don’t trip up the “outsider bells” like Jews would in a conservative Muslim country.
“Bush murdered America’s military future”? Interesting since it was CLINTON who closed THREE bases in the Sacramento area alone! (Mather, McClellan and the Army Depot)
Stevor as always you wreak of sewage….
I dont know…that definition sounds very creative…visualize a wreak upon a river or great wash of sewage a vessel that is being dragged by a thick slurry of any kind of descriptive analogical sewage you might like – even if it was a spelling error…nice one TJ (nuthin personal agin Stevor)
You cant have bases at home when ther are a 1,000 needing staff overseas.
Bronco get a dictionary, you’ve got a homophone problem.
Maybe even homonymic.
Jews deserve to know the serve a government of criminal bastards just like the United States.
We must be fair.
We owe it to them.
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What makes you think that they will fall for that trick again? (ie phony showers).
Gordon Duff,
it does seem to be a close match which government is more corrupt,
example, the current job Czar is busy sending more of American manufacturing overseas,
Plus we are staring down the barrel of Nafta 2, The Pacific-Asian Nafta2 to hurry up and finish off our industry & manufacturing,
We will have the epa,fda,dhs, make sure we can’t even produce our own food,
NON Corporate Cartel Ranchers,Farmers,Dairies are being harassed for things like “HAY” as a pollutant or contamination,fda moving to wipe out the vitamins /health food supplements as is the desire of the pharma lobby from hell
I wonder if Israel realizes that Turkey is one of the most important members of NATO. If you had to name the five most important members of NATO they would be the USA, Germany, Britain, France and then Turkey; this is without doubt.
Just need to add that Turkey is not influenced nor contolled by Israel as are the USA, Germany, Britan, and France which makes Turkey the true number one important member of NATO. The vote coming up on Septemner 20th, if it actually proceeds to a vote, will show all concerned who the puppet governments are at this time. Thanks for reading and do have a nice day.
“Israel is now totally isolated and very much considered sacrificable by the US, despite continual pronouncements by members of congress otherwise.”
What do you mean by “the US”? Do you mean “the U.S. government”? For all practical purposes, there actually is no more “U.S. government”, is there? And to the extent there is anything you could call the “U.S. government”, it’s not about to sacrifice “Israel”.
The abomination transparently masquerading as the “U.S. government” will take your rights, it’ll take your assets, it’ll take your economy, it’ll take your social safety net, it’ll take your grandmother of her dialysis machine, and finally, it’ll take your life and those of your family mambers – before it’ll “sacrifice” “Israel”.
You see, “America” is not about “America”, it’s all about “Israel” and the insatiable demands of Jewish supremacist ideology.
That is the deadly unspoken assumption in the article, that, in my opinion, can be expanded into many European nations today as well. The promotion of many questionable parties in this article as anti-Zionists can be very misleading to the less informed readers. Not only Israel is not cornered, as this article seems to lead us to believe, the entire MENA is in fact under an all out psywar, covop, and naked aggression to secure Israel’s future. Countries are falling one after the other in that direction.
If everyone wants Israel to be dismantled and gone forever then stop spreading the lie that six million jews were gassed with bug spray.
How did six million unemployed Germans before Hitler rose to power in Germany lead to six million Jewish deaths during WWII? Was there an economic connection here somewhere in between?
Apparently the connection was bug spray
Joe,
there were only 500,000 or so Jews /Jewish Zionists in all of Germany before ww2
The Germans tried to do right by those Commie Bolsheviks. Cleaned the filthy scum up, showered them, cut their ratty hair, deloused them, gave them clean lice free clothing and a job (for a change) instead of their usual fare of swindling the gentiles. The camps were re-education centers to teach the jews a trade instead of allowing them to continue on destroying nations. The Germans were trying to lift the jews out of the gutter not honoring them for it. There was no “final solution”.
Anyone that runs their own business in the USA will tell you that jews got it all. No matter what line of business you’re in, they run that particular industry and you get table scraps and they make all the money and do so at inflated prices and gouging and cheating the tax payers whenever they can.
The one big mistake “true” Christians make is believing jews have similar morals and ethics. jews view Christian morals and ethics as weaknesses to be exploited not as admirable qualities. So if you’re kind or compassionate to a jew, they see that as an opening to screw you over.
“Arbeit Macht Frei”
Vox, Your comment is the most intelligent I have read in a very long time!!
Since it is against the Talmudic dictates to apologize to a goy. The notion of the Turks finally getting their fill of it, may be a good one. The “High cabal” does not relish nuke destruction, because they own all the assets that will fry. A quandary? If there is a God, Israel will self destruct, taking those capitol cities with them; We all eventually die. If any cosmic justice gets done just let me last long enough to see it. That said, It is unchristian to wish for desth and destruction on anyone; yes, i know it is hard, However eternity be a damned long time.
Jim.. a voice of reason and intelligence among the babbles of the dim. Salut!
The Northern Army And its Allies Will Punish The English Speaking World & Israel
http://www.peterjamesx.com/Docs%202008/The%20Northern%20Army.htm
I am so very thankful for the Internet which gives us the ability to rapidly communicate this info on VT.
I hope it never gets censored or controlled as some predict.
Thank you VT for providing this forum for the exchange of info which until the last decade was not possible to
everyday folks. I am learning so much since 9/11 and my eyes and many others are getting wide open.
BJ
Criminal facets are escelating the brinksmanship to a point of inevitable nuclear conflict (the big nukes). Gordong Duff has it pretty much spot on.
A decade of desperate lies about terrorism has turned into a “tin ear” anniversary, don’t you think?
The entire premise of the creation of israhell is based ENTIRELY on lies and nothing but lies.
No nation can continues to exist on lies. Especially with zionist lies. Ahmadinejad once stated that israhell will destroy itself. Of course the statement was deliberately mistranslated ( by zionist owned news media) to say he wanted to destroy israhell. He or his successor will simply sit back and wait.
The thought that this tiny little state made up of a cabal of psychopathic criminals, of such low moral and ethical demeanor continues to exist and continues to threaten the rest of the world with nuclear blackmail and at the same time manages to swindle stupid American xtians into sending them their hard earned dollars and continues to stab America in the back: the latest jewish spy caught by the FBI, amazes me to no end.
The zionists have made it plain to the rest of the world they would unleash a nuclear Armageddon upon the rest of us if they are backed into the wall. Is this not an utterance by an insane people?
Do they really believe they can push Turkey around as they have done with Egypt and America? Do they really believe they can win a war with Turkey? If those likudist crazos believe it is possible then they deserve whatever awaits them.
At this point I do believe sides are being drawn against the possibility of conflict between israhell and Turkey. There are plenty of states in the middle east that will side with Turkey as a means of getting back at israhell irregardless of what the clowns in D.C. say.
The bully of the middle east may just have picked on the wrong victim and is going to get more than a black eye out of it. It may have opened up a can of whup ass on itself.
I appreciate the speculation, but please, where’s the real grammatical editing anymore?
Ahem, I feel a chill coming on. My mutha says I gotta wear a coat. Nuclear war? Oy vey! These goyim will be the death of me yet. Nah, there’s a few of us who actually do still believe in God. We win.
Bigger fish to fry…..yes! there is a quiet chill in the air as all these sabers are rattling but in what direction? “Plan within Plans”……the real news is that ELEnin, Honda, levy and YU55 are in the inner Solar System, the Sun is seriously acting up – CME’s galore – see blackout affects 6.6 million people in SanDiego and said region and Earthquakes are ramping up to a BIG one…I would say at least a 10 soon eerily the Juan de Fuca got a 6.7 jolt this last week……..on the Radiation front – FukUshima is the China Syndrome now add Virginia’s fallour from that rare 5.6 quake that jostled the Northeast for 500 miles and France’s Mox explosion…….NO GOOD News here – millions will start dying if they have not already.
150 CEO’s flipped their jobs or have vanished from public eye, 70 Police chiefs re-sign, every major office has moved in-land…..and life saving medications are vanishing off shelfs in the USA…….hmhmhmhm….LIBYA was for Water not Oil or Gold althou they would not thumb their noses at that windfall….Looks like a BIG move is happening right under our noses as the deck chairs on the Titanic are being arranged and the band is about to strike-up that final waltze….and those Elite rats scurry for the last life boats at D.U.M.B……don’t be surprised if you wake-up one day – a “nuklear” war raging, the earth ripping apart and meteors hurtling from the sky….and your lying leaders “GONE” fishing………yup! think they are about to make a quick exit stage left and leave the bulk of Humanity hold the shit filled bag. that can be the only reasoning for all these WANTON recklessness…THEY DON”T CARE about Radiation or the Economy or who has a Nuklear device….because they are audi 5000 and YOU will face Nibiru on your own with your families in tow…..wake-up…..most survivalist have retreated ……….are you prepared…..Notice how they have started to vanish from public view…..and Obambi will be in Denver Airport on the 27th Sept and the Nation’s FEMA response capability will be tested across ALL media outlets on the 11/11/11…….ps as the Mayor of Gotham said in Forbes, in the wake of Irene “looters will be put in INTERNMENT CAMPS…..not shot, not arrested…..Internment Camps???!!!! …..good luck God Bless. Peace.
ps today “isrealis” are KHAZARS……..russian converts from the KHAZARIA………real Isrealites are sematic as Iranians are Aryan………….Khazars are from some steppes in the Old Russian Empire – nothing to do with Ancient Isrealites who were definitely not on the white side…..”Comely and dark as the Cedars of Lebanon……..”Abraham was Sumerian from the City of Ur of the Chaldees not polish descended Hasidism…………the madness of converts…..oy vey!
Concerning male-line ancestry, several Y-DNA studies have tested the hypothesis of Khazar ancestry amongst Ashkenazim.[75][76][77] In these studies Haplogroup R1a chromosomes (sometimes called Eu 19) have been identified as potential evidence of one line of Eastern European ancestry amongst Ashkenazim, which could possibly be Khazar. One concluded that “neither the NRY haplogroup composition of the majority of Ashkenazi Jews nor the microsatellite haplotype composition of the R1a1 haplogroup within Ashkenazi Levites is consistent with a major Khazar or other European origin”[76] and another that “if the R-M17 chromosomes in Ashkenazi Jews do indeed represent the vestiges of the mysterious Khazars then, according to our data, this contribution was limited to either a single founder or a few closely related men, and does not exceed ~ 12% of the present-day Ashkenazim.”[75]
The only other possibility for ancestry are these two:
1. Jews, in cirica 80AD disguised themselves as Visagoths and settled into barbarian areas that had no settlements, opening deli’s and tailor shops…sewing skins and making yak pastrami or
2. Jews are, as was accidentially discoved within data theoretically finding “DNA commnality ” in Jewishing communities in regions called “Southern Khazaria” were compared with other studies of earlier pro-hominid populations…Neanderthals.
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Gordon Duff,
why do you suggest Jews ( Southern Khazaria” ) have a “DNA commnality ” with other studies of earlier pro-hominid populations…Neanderthals.
From someone else that would seem to be a slur or an insult,
brief response please
Just because it is not in your Rockefeller sanctioned Mythological US History books, does not mean there isn’t history of it (see Benjamin Freedman who speaks at length about this). Talk to European Historians, you might find more truth about the mysterious Khazars.
One other observation that might come into play for those nay-Sayers… Nearly 2000 years ago when your skin color usually reflected your ancestry (& heritage), have you noticed that most fair skin people laid north of the 33 parallel, which tends to be where most of the wealth since then has been horded. Those who laid on or below the 33 parallel were of darker complexion and are typically what they call themselves people of the land. So when I look at the political leaders in Israel, our Corporate Heads, many politicians, Economists and the European International Banking Cartels I do not think of them as holy people from the fictional bible, I think of them as Europeans or coverts. I don’t need a history book or propaganda to think any different, logic and common since tells me different. If that isn’t enough proof, look at their actions and motives.
pps strongly feel we are going to have that first false flag as they take out an American City to further terrorize US….as most people are begining to wake-up from the zombie 9/11 false flag and also alot of people are either having epiphanies….apocalypse fever….or just feel that something is NOT right!
I disagree, most Americans are not waking up to the Israeli threat. In years past maybe 2% were hip to it and now it is maybe 15%. Not nearly enough. We need a strong 60% to stop their machinations. You may find this hard to believe, but Hitler had a major following here in American only a few shor years before we were at war against Germany. You probably don’t know that Hitler had a ticker tape paade in New York City, do you? It only took the Jewish propaganda machine about 18 months to turn ti all around and agaisnt Germany. They are very very influential and powerful.
Logic and common sense seems to guide Gordon Duff and I enjoy much of of the article and most of the comments but how many of us are aware of the existence of over 2000 masonic lodges in Turkey and that the turkish armed forces are throughout infiltrated by the masonic pest that I can´t believe that any turkish action against israel would not be passed by the masons to the mossad before it happens. Most americans don´t have a clue about masons work as Israel´s praetorian force that, no matter which political party is in power, is always in control of governments and armed forces.-
In beggining to severe the tentacles of jewish power people should start taking off the masks of masons who really are traitors against fellow gentiles, poisoning every single structure of Christian and western civilization.- Few people take notice of how important are masons for the Jewish World take over, just simply go and read “The protocols of the learned elders of Zion”, and see for whom is working your “inocent” friend, neighbour or relative that invited you to join the local lodge.-
Peter: In one way or another it has being working ad majorem judae gloriam.- Egipt reached the pyramids and were left behind.- If the script was good it was stolen by the “guests” who find it very suitable for their designs of world domination.- Just take in account that of masons supreme council 9 seats 5 are reserved for jews, a permanent majority.- Of the 18 degree oath: total commitment to the Universal Israeli Alliance, just see US and UK officials, politics, military and courts mostly to masons, otherwise they would not be allowed to office, post or promotion of relevance; and all, no matter the political party the belong to, totally submitted to Jewish power, as Nethanahu declares: we control the USA, and what to say about UK being under the rule of the Rothschilds for several centuries.-
Masons are traitors expecting the 30 coins from their betrayal: personal benefit, fame and glory.- the difference with the jews is that they look after world dominance, and knowing the weaknesses of gentiles coming to the lodges use them as a tool for devious designs.-
A good read. Thank you Gordon. However, the Anglo-Ameican-Jewish banker elites did not get into their positions of dominance by being stupid and incompetent. They are ruthless, cunning and powerful. We shall sew what happens. Big lies, big propaganda, slaveish public support, surprise atttacks, and big wars are their stock in trade. They will not go quietly.
Hi Gordon,
Where can I get the info on the Bharat(Indian) ICBM cooperation with Israel? The US/Israel is using India’s inflated view of itself as a regional (and future) global power, as well as its obsession with ‘hostile Muslim elements’(internal and Pakistani) to counter China’s growing influence, as well as to check Pakistan(the ‘Islamic Bomb’).
Ibram: You can find useful materiel in Rupeenews.-
Ibram,
don’t you agree that Russia,China,America ,all 3 are not interested to say the least in India & Israel both having MIRV Hydrogen Nuke missiles, hopefully something can be worked out and we can have a drawn down from the state of “the Forever Wars” and put our own Country back together,
Lots of criminals in D.C. & Wallstreet & elsewhere like many Judges need to go to PRISON for the beginning of Justice and restitution for Mega levels of theft & fraud & looting of the National Treasury,State & County Treasuries as well as reducing & revamping all of the Bolshevik Autocracies going hog wild on our Citizenry & Economy
LIke weirdo Control freak fascist Cass Sunstein , a creepy ,creepy guy, who would of been find with Stalin or Lenin or the Cheney
would of been find with Stalin or Lenin or the Cheney
The military has practically never served any contstructive purpose in Amerika and is hereby disbonded. It’ll be that much less falseflags Amerika will have to go through without the traitors in uniform on 9/11 and the homicidal scum who tortured Iraq. Can’t wait to see those losers finding out how hard it will be in the Amerika they ruined with war debt and psychopathology. It must suck to wind up duped …we will see how much of their pensions old vets get to keep. Ask the frikkin Rothschilds where it all went?
If the military sickos got any spare change in the ol sack left why not arrest Cheney, Rummie Evelyn and Bibi, boys cuz you was sech heroes not long ago goin after Gaddafi with all your pretty medals and mighty shit? You guys continue to claim the US military is hot shit but it looks like instead on 9/11 they sold their nation down the tubes for money. And the troops follow those losers’ orders and destroy the world for em, go figure, there is nothing in it for anyone, the jews lose, Israelis, the troops, even the bloody red Rothschilds, pretty much everyone so thanks but no thanks to the military for nothing.
sOUNDS JUST ABOUT CLOSE TO RIGHT
The author of the article – in his attempts at presenting a fair and balanced argument from both sides – includes:
” when Israel murdered 9 Turkish citizens in an act of piracy, peace activists on an aid ship heading for Gaza.”
… but he entirely fails to mention that those same ‘peace activists’ were recorded as saying they would love to die as ‘martyrs for the arabian desert god on that voyage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu6p-U0t-b8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lotiilOa7eo&NR=1
he forgets top mention that they were armed with metal poles etc and struck the Israel soldiers as they rappelled down from helicopters onto the darken deck. Those soldiers were in clear and present danger and afraid for their lives.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjkLUcbJWo
The bottom line is – because of their behaviour, some of the ‘peace’ activists got their wish.
So, you have to ask yourselves – what sort of journalist is the author ?
Ross
When attacked by pirates, people can defend themselves. Israel’s are pirates just as are many Somalis.
However, we also discovered the audio recordings and videos submitted by Israel were falsified. Israel had people walkng through walls.
Israel has sewn the seeds of its own demise here.
Israel is toast, the only question is ‘when.”
g
It is sheer fantasy to construe the ‘peace activists’ as without guile and having no hostile intentions.
Also – when you write in reply ‘However, we also discovered the audio recordings and videos submitted by Israel were falsified. Israel had people walking through walls.’
any proof to go with that? Sources (neither Turk nor palestinian’ please)
They were unarmed you idiot. Israel is a Bolshevik state of murderers founded by the inventers of central bank control. You will not win the argument.
Amen to that. Their only retaliation in any “debate” is the boring (yawn) accusation of being “antisemitic”. Given Israel’s barbarism in the name of “Judaism”, who would not be proud of being antisemitic? The rubbishy state of gangsters and racists is now the pariah of the world.
@Ross;
Hasbarah; So people who are being illegally boarded in international waters by thugs with automatic weapons in the dead of night can not defend themselves with “metal poles and knives”? You and your kind are pathetic. I hope and pray that someday you and “your kind” get what’s coming to you because you and “your kind” are nothing but filth that deserves nothing less than to be flushed down “life’s sewer”.
Israel is a terrorist state and their act of piracy against PEACE ACTIVISTS who had the courage to die for their convictions, changes nothing Rossy my boy. What’s your real name eh Heimy?
Bloody megaphone brats!
give me a fucking break!!!! You think ANYONE other than an Israeli apologist would buy the
claim that the soldiers needed to KILL the protestors?? Especially since the entire world knows
what kind of MURDERERS the IDF really are!!!
this guy whop wrote this article is a great journalist as far as I am concerned and U are a moron
In the world today, there are really just two wolves on their way to the top of the hill. Their mutual trajectories lead them to eventual conflict. Both of them do not consider Africa, the ME or South Asia anything more than 2nd rate actors at best on the world stage, mere chess pieces on the board. This talk of Israel is much ado about nothing. Israel manipulating the USA? Hah! It would be exactly in our best interest if Israel does emplode and take out a few Muslim states whom we would all be better off without. I am sure China is in agreement, too – they got their own Muslim problems on their border states. And what of all this talk of religious mumbo jumbo and shamans predicting the future? I mean, is this a Veteran Channel? If you are really a veteran, then you know the UCMJ is all about giving your heart to Jesus, but your ass belongs to Uncle Sam. My advice to you whom have forgotten this is to harden-up. 9000 on 9/11? Millions of dead Muslims since then? Who cares if in the future we are killing off a few hundred million Chinese – that’s where we are goin folks. And that’s where the Chinese are going too – they aren’t building ICBMs and launching them off our coasts for nothing. Patton would grease his tank treds with the guts of all the dead so far on his way to Beijing if it was what was needed for the USA to win.
Duane Peed, West Texas
It won’t be Muslim states imploding little Duane, it will be that crappy little terrorist state Israel and the crappy god forsaken USA. As one of a mounting number of Muslim converts from the West, caused by the process of blowback from Zionist lies since 2001, I assure you Islam is here to stay, long after you and yours are just a distant ugly memory.