October Notes: A Few Painful Disclosures
Some of the Real Intel “Chatter” Usually Unavailable
By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor
As Senior Editor, I was considering taking a few days off, enjoying the work of others at Veterans Today. However, a flood of quality “intel” comes through VT.
I will try to put out a mix of what is going around this week, certainly not out of the alternative press or as Kevin Barrett and I are beginning to look on it, “the controlled alternative press.”
I spend more time lecturing press folks than writing. It is one thing if government propaganda and press releases fill the daily media, a mixture of celeb gossip, unfulfilled promises of exposed genitalia and maimed corpses.
The current consensus is that 80% of the “progressive” or “lefty’ media is on one kind of payroll or another. I really understand it. If things are as bad as some of us know them to be, and they are actually much worse, selling us all out for a handful of silver is pretty realistic.
This week VT thanks the demonstrators in New York, those “occupying” Wall Street. These are heroes.
Let’s go off the deep end early on.
New gossip out of Israel.
Historian David Irving, seen as an enemy of Israel for his well researched works that expose Churchill as a Rothschild shill and present Hitler as more of a “voice of reason” than anyone is allowed to speak of now, well, you will love this one.
Irving believes, and Irving is seldom off the mark, that Hitler really escaped Germany at the end of the war.
Our Israeli friends who assigned top researchers to go through Irving’s writings did learn this.
Hitler died in Argentina, where he and Eva Braun lived out their lives in peace. Hitler was…..an art dealer.
Can I prove it? No. Is it true? Extremely likely, the sources are very reliable.
OIL
Moving on to boring stuff.
There have been recent oil discoveries, West Africa, the Eastern Mediterranean, that indicate that all estimates of world oil reserves are utterly false.
Massive oil discoveries have been made, especially in and around Cameroon. Check out this wonderful map of the offshore fields that we found. Santa has move South.
These are “game changers.”
They are being kept secret, the scale certainly. With advances in alternative energy technologies, some kept secret for decades, oil is virtually worthless.
If you are wondering why you are paying under $3 bucks a gallon? It isn’t “market forces” but rather simply fear of this information getting out.
Market manipulation? Well, as Sarah Palin would say, “You Betcha!!”
EGYPT
No big secrets here. Egypt is running on a military dictatorship with Israel continuing to pull the strings to a large degree. The Egyptian people are very aware of this and are becoming increasingly “radicalized” toward Israel. Expect the Camp David Accords to be scrapped, the Egyptian people are universally ready for that.
Critical is the installation of a democratic government in Egypt quickly as possible while the US still has a good relationship to save. Irresponsible rhetoric about the role of the Muslim Brotherhood, a factor in any new government, will only hurt the US and most certainly Israel.
“Keeping the boot” on the necks of the Egyptian people is a serious error.
IMMEDIATE DEFUSING
The US veto threat in the UN is a disaster. However, the endless Israeli games, last ditch attempts to support the failed “Bush/Cheney analog” policies of Netanyahu’s Likudists are a mixture of reason and pure idiocy.
Simply put, Netanyahu doesn’t have the support inside Israel anymore to deal credibly. The Israeli people are being asked to reassess the years of manipulation, false flag terrorism, security scares and extreme injustice.
Many are ready to move on but more have been “conditioned” to take down Israel for all the wrong reasons.
Using the US as a puppet to slap down the Palestinians in the UN simply exposes President Obama as lacking international credibility, pushing him to trade American prestige for, what can we call it, “bribe money,” to keep Democratic Party control of at least one house in congress.
Toward that end, however, moves against Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, who should have been impeached 2 years ago, would give Obama breathing room. There will be no Middle East settlement without a cohesive government in both Washington and Tel Aviv. Both are in collapse.
Thus, Turkey’s timing, breaking relations with Israel over the Mavi Marmara incident, clearly illegal Israeli attacks that were unquestioned acts of piracy and the execution of 9 peace activists, is an issue of great risk.
This week, Israel chose to confront Turkey’s oil exploration efforts by sending F 15′s and military helicopters toward Cyprus. Turkey still controls Northern Cyprus and the entire region is under a land based Turkish air umbrella. The Israeli fighters returned home on afterburner with Turkish F 16s on their tails.
The Turkish and Israeli pilots involved trained together for years, most are good friends. Israel, until recently, used Turkish airspace to train their air forces with pilot quality, Turkey and Israel, very evenly matched.
The game here?
OIL – Cyprus, Greece, Turkey
In 1974, Turkey took military control of Northern Cyprus. Turks claim the Greeks were persecuting Turkish citizens. Greeks claim the Turks were brutal invaders.
An artificial dividing line was established, called the “green line” and this remained one of the world’ hot spots.
The Cypriot government, the Greek one, bought a serious air defense system from the Russians as an offset to the Turkish threat.
However, as the green line has been open now for years and Cyprus has been flooded with investment, mostly Russian organized crime, the Turkish north has become economically integrated with the south.
Greeks have also found Turkey a good place for inexpensive vacations and Turks, their longtime enemy, to be better than average business partners.
With Greece in total economic collapse and facing expulsion from the EU, Cyprus is not looking to Greece for support.
The problems are purely economic, significant gas and oil reserves have been discovered off Cyprus, in areas Israel would like to believe they control. They have exploration agreements with the Cypriot government but bypassed considerations of Turkey, the Palestinians and Lebanon, all of whom have significant legal say over regional exploration.
A more honest admission is that this is international waters and anyone is free to explore where they wish.
Israel considers recent moves by Turkey to begin explorations in the region as an “act of war.”
Turkey sent in exploration ships but also maintains a naval presence and air cover. This is a new game for Israel, a country usually able to intimidate.
For those who don’t remember or don’t know, in 1967, Israel attacked an American warship in the region, killing or wounding nearly 200 American naval personnel on a ship clearly flagged American.
Recently, in an interview, Cindy McCain, wife of John McCain, son of Admiral McCain, who is charged with responsibility for the coverup of the 1967 Israeli attack, issued a press statement that she finds the issue “unworthy of attention.”
Is Cindy “backsliding?”
The Liberty incident, though over 40 years ago, raises the stakes. Turkey will attack Israeli forces before allowing Israel to attack Turkish shipping. Netanyahu, having pushed things so far must have lost his mind.
Erdogan of Turkey continually reminds Egypt of their history with Israel.
In light of Mubarak’s exposure as an Israeli agent (was Gaddafi an Israeli agent?….expect a startling expose’ on this next week), and Russia’s stalwart support of Syria, Israel is isolated.
Israel’s response was to go to Germany to garner support for Greece’s economic debacle, support which also helped support the dollar, in trade for Greece going to Russia, asking them to intervene by pressuring Turkey.
However, Turkey is a senior member of NATO, in control of the Bosporous and Black Sea and host to America military bases.
If this seems overwhelming, the layers behind these machinations go on nearly forever. Cover for these issues, taking attention off Israel’s disasters in both domestic and foreign policy, is Iran and, to a greater degree, Pakistan.
Israeli Intrigue on Pakistan
The Israeli lobby in the US has pushed key assets in the Pentagon to accuse General Kiani, the very popular commander of Pakistan’s military, of orchestrating attacks on NATO forces in Kabul.
They allege he does this through his control of the Haqqani networks, a couple of thousand Pashtun fighters in Wazirstan under continual drone attack by Americans at Nellis AFB in Las Vegas.
The facts however, don’t support this.
Kiani is very popular in the Pentagon, a favorite. Then the Israeli’s, though minor press assets like Canada’s National Post, tried to blame the aging General Hamid Gul, Editor of Veterans Today and long retired former ISI director.
The claims that he is controlling the Pashtun fighters in Waziristan are bizarre.
I know Gul well, have been to his home, the walls of which are lined with awards and memorabilia from American presidents and military commanders.
Another reality; Gul is extremely unpopular with the Haqqani group and heads the Taliban’s enemy list.
The armed patrol at the end of his driveway are there for a reason.
Gul was active in support of the CIA against the Soviets in Afghanistan, this was 30 years ago.
Without giving too much away, Gul’s best friend in Washington has always been Bob Gates, former CIA director who recently retired as Secretary of Defense.
Accusations that General Pasha, current Director General of the ISI is running terror cells in Afghanistan is also insane.
I know General Pasha well.
He is a moderate, a former Air Force officer, popular in Washington, very patriotic but hardly a renegade plotter.
General Pasha has his job because he is a highly respected military commander with the full support of the US government.
However, he speaks his mind and puts his loyalty to Pakistan will above the American money that have bought so many there.
I would have him to Sunday morning TV. The accusations, let’s be honest, they are really Israeli allegations voiced through others, would look foolish.
CHINA
Despite the talk of Iran and the “bunker buster” bombs Bush sold Israel, bombs Obama finally allowed to be delivered (for a price), China holds all the cards. Pakistan depends on China and Saudi Arabia much more than the US for financial support.
I suspect China has given Pakistan many advanced military technologies, some of which used to belong to America. Welcome to that world.
However, China has the most to lose. Oil is still an issue to China, but they are well established, not just with Tehran but the Saudis, with Nigeria, their contracts are secure. China isn’t concerned about its investments, its American treasury securities but the banks themselves.
The world is facing a cascade of banking collapses. The cause isn’t the US. It’s the EU. Half of the EU is holding debt “off the books,” not just Greece and Italy or Spain and Portugal but France. The EU debt may actually exceed that of the US.
One recent estimate was 6 trillion euros. The truth is double that.
The US dollar, the “Fed” and many American banks depend on Europe. If Europe folds, and they are only putting off the inevitable, the US will collapse as well, and with it, all of China’s markets.
This may be why Putin is returning to politics. Recent statements of his indicate an aggressive stance against the financial crimes that have caused the recent worldwide collapse. Putin blames the US but I suspect he will have to widen his target.
It is impossible to express how serious the economic collapse was. It already happened. We are simply running on credit cards waiting for the bailiffs to kick us out into the street.
AFGHANISTAN
America’s “blame Pakistan” mantra is more than just an expression at frustration over our failure in Afghanistan. America is trapped, unable to admit it went into Afghanistan based on 9/11, a terror attack on America only idiots are unaware was orchestrated from Washington itself.
The recent fiasco, the pretend “death” of Osama bin Laden may have been a way out. That opportunity was missed. Expect hard evidence next week to come out proving bin Laden to have been an active CIA asset on 9/11. Some is already out there, leaked by Susan Lindauer and others.
As long as drugs are not taken into account, $80 billion a year buying Washington politicians, Pentagon officials, too many in Tel Aviv, Zurich, London, Islamabad, New Delhi, money now spread around the world, the drug money from Afghanistan is the most powerful destabilizing force in the world today.
Combined with the Mexican cartels, now partnered with the CIA and Homeland Security, rebuilding the old “Iran/Contra” scams, turning drug production and smuggling into full scale vertical marketing, and, in the process, buying judges, police departments, local governments across America….
Watch this above all. This will be the big story you may not be reading about over the next year but will see destroying your community and maybe your family as well.
We knew it was coming the day we went into Afghanistan. Drug production under US guidance began immediately. The CIA never changes.
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you forgot that David Welch, president of Bechtel and Bush Special Envoy, one of the top Neocons, met with Gaddafi’s reps in Cairo, the 4 Seasons Hotel, August 11 to arrange for more money to pay for friendly activists and journalists, some in Tripoli, some here….who you love to read and quote.
Failure to pay attention, failure to think, failure to read, the ease you are duped….
you should leave all posted comments. It only hurts this site when you remove things you don’t agree with.
It’s called moderation of comments. Done on all major websites…nothing unusual about it. We are very close to our readers interests, and also appreciative of their time. But we are not running a chat room for angry people. Not many come down that slip by. Work with us. We sure as hell are working with you. This is an all volunteer effort here.
Hitler did not die in Germany ,1945… Fact…
Off topic and probably belongs in an e-ml but: Nick Kollerstram has an article at http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk that ( along with Japanese investigative journalists ) that point to the Israeli security firm Magna BSP as being the prime mover in the “fabricated terror ” of the Fukushima disaster…installed a 1,000 lb camera in reactor 4 which turns out not to have been a camera..what a surprise..Sunami ( nuke induced ?) used as cover..payback for certain political overtures such as the Norway incident…if this is true the whole world should be at war with those bastard…
Regarding the heroes speaking truth to power on Wall Street, I just read about someone’s post on Facebook yesterday. The revolution won’t be televised…but it just might start something like this:
“I’m heading up there tonight in my dress blues. So far, 15 of my fellow marine buddies are meeting me there, also in Uniform. I want to send the following message to Wall St and Congress:
“I didn’t fight for Wall St. I fought for America. Now it’s Congress’ turn.”
My true hope, though, is that we Veterans can act as first line of defense between the police and the protesters. If they want to get to some protesters so they can mace them, they will have to get through the Fvcking Marine Corps first. Let’s see a cop mace a bunch of decorated war vets.
I apologize now for typos and errors. Typing this on iPhone whilst heading to NYC. We can organize once we’re there. That’s what we do best. If you see someone in uniform, gather together. A formation will be held tonight at 10PM.
We all took an oath to uphold, protect and defend the constitution of this country. That’s what we will be doing. Hope to see you there!!”
Worthy and noble sentiments, however some principles of truth and historic fact should be brought to mind for the benefit of of that soldier and his buddies.
Firstly, regardless of what your personal (or in the case of you and your buddies in the collective sense, your “group”) rationales and self-justifications/intentions were for “joining” and “fighting”, you were nonetheless, in point of fact, “doing so” for the intentions according to which the institutionalized military (to which you contracted the voluntary relinquishing of your rights and self-determination) DEPLOYED you as a mere resource (like any piece of equipment they own) on behalf of and in the furtherance of the objectives of the organized criminal establishment we have been indoctrinated into believing and naming “Government”, but which has since Lincoln been the US Corporation (as are all central-bank controlled “governments”)
The above is a mouthful with clarifying asides thrown in so reread if you must…
Secondly, as for the “police” having to get “through” uniformed vets, don’t kid yourself. Unless you are prepared to match force with force and whip them down (as, in my opinion, you and all vets should if you follow your oath to defend against even domestic enemies of the people of this nation, which the institutionalized “police” have long since become) the history of this nation has already offered precedent to the repression of those who thought they were entitled to respect for service, namely The Bonus Marchers.
Push back hard enough and they will happily order their smug, largely ignorant and poorly educated grunt cops to fire on and kill you where you stand. These cops in particular have already shown how brazenly thuggish they are by beating and accosting females (real tough guys) who did them no violence.
But be aware, this is the nature of dictatorial evolution the world over. It begins repeatedly with the degradation of the military infrastructure and the strengthening of establishment-serving police forces (most prominently State and Federal police entities) so as to more closely watch the common citizenry at all times and respond with brutality and repression more quickly.
For this reason was “Homeland” (sieg heil) “Security” instituted by the cabal in direct violation of every principle this nation was allegedly founded to embody. So sinks the ship of fools who trust in it.
Good luck in your good intentioned effort but don’t be surprised if they come at you and your buddies even harder than the common folk they’ve already stomped on.
Indeed, Pen, “the road to hell is paved with good intentions”…….
Thank You
I intended the Thank You for Wolf….
Mary do not get BS’d by Wolf, a Zio Schil!…
oh good grief TJ
I simply posted the marine’s post from Facebook. So how does that make me a “Zio Schil”??
By the way, it is spelled SHILL.
God Bless you Boys…. do your duty
You can still fit into your uniforms?
:>)
Wolf, lets hope you really are bringing a squad of marines to this protests. All I know you as is ,’Wolf’-Let’s hope what I know you as, and your post are two different stories…Let me hope that you are not what I have fully always believed….ZSchl-Tomorrow and the next few days will tell if the USMC is there to defend…I doubt it because most Americans including Marines have been duped by Fox News and the rest of the Conservative media… They will show you tits and Ass, just NO SUBSTANCE!!
I am not bringing a squad of marines to Wall Street. I am 3000 miles away. Again, I was just posting the marine’s posting from Facebook. What kind of liquor are into tonight?
Bacardi and coke as always!-Yet that does not make me misunderstand that facebook is just that a ‘Facebook’ Wolf…Full of BS and a CIA type manipulation(Bastardised) From the original prick from, Phillips Exeter, the preppy’s I used to ‘Egg’, My Brother also having the destinction of being kicked out of that school. As I lived in this town.This gives me Pride Wolf…So thanks for the post and where are the ‘Marines’ Tonight, the fourth??! I’ll eat my shorts, and you can make me if tomorrow, Wednesday, the fifth, the ”’Marines”’show up on wallstreet…-MY as%
The place to protest is in front of every Federal Reserve bank in the country. You can start with the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and take it from there. While you’re at it, demonstrate in front of Ben Bernanke’s house too. Get whatever permits you need.
It’s beginning to look more like the late 1960”s and 1970′s. With all respect to the frustrated and fighting troops formerly in SE Asia, I was a family man, turning 40, with a mortgage. In my corporate world I stood nearly alone in protesting to bring home the troops. We created a revolution that was not televised any more than are today’s events on Wall Street. The insane militarism ceased when congressmen, concerned about returning to their home towns, unexpectedly turned down Pres. Ford’s routine annual “Aid” appropriation for SE Asia. I predict that today’s paid-off cowards will be soon scampering for their survival. THE REVOLUTION HAS BEGUN. Much more is at stake than Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, or BOA. There is a little laundry list of items at http://bigeye.com/revolution_has_begun.htm — you need not agree with every item to become involved.
I was the troops. Being “the troops” was a bunch of shit.
Those who speak otherwise are of that same substance.
Yes, it was crap. I have a young man in my family, whose war was Bosnia, the non-war. He was a medic in that civil conflict, won’t talk about it. But he has PTSD, and gets really weird, off and on. getting better, but it”s been many years now…
I also had an uncle who entered Normandy on D-day, June 6, 1944. He ended up all over the map, getting sniped at while crossing rivers that had to be crossed, and watching all his friends in front of him get killed one by one. Until almost the end of his life, he refused to talk about it. But every night, he had nightmares, even into his 80s. He kicked his wife all over the bed, in his sleep. PTSD is forever, until you die, apparently.
I grew up with Russian Mennonites and Ukrainians, refugees from Stalin. Of course, Communism is insanely bad. But all you Hitler-lovers out there, Wake Up! Hitler was a complete psycho, too. I have a lot of material on his early days, direct quotes from the pages of VB, the Nazi party newspaper. I don’t care how many times Dr. Zundel or anybody else tries to whitewash him after the fact. He was a psycho from the get-go, and screwing his niece was the least of it. They got the Butcher of Prague, and it was a crime that they didn’t knock off the little Bavarian corporal, and his friends the chicken farmer, and the drug addict, and the other Nazi misfits who later became famous as mass murderers.
Excellent “to do” list…especially the ending about those controlling the TV networks…THEY ARE ORGANIZED CRIME.
There were exactly 911 days between the 911 attacks and the Madrid train bombings. Most people aware of the Mossad’s false flags believe the Madrid attack just as 911 was done by the Mossad.
Anyone who closely follows the terrorist activities of the Mossad knows they’re into numeric symbolism regarding false flags. So If Washington planned 911 should we blame Washington for the Madrid bombings? Yikes!
its very clear that this was indeed a Mossad take down…. the precision of the genocide is all too familiar
Come on now, give The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and EXPLOSIVES some “credit”…
It’s highly likely the Norway massacre was a Mossad operation. You know those Norwegians support the Palestinians and Palestinian statehood including the teenagers murdered on the Island. Well, the attack was on the exact day of the year, July 22nd, as the well known King David Hotel terrorist attack in Jerusalem done by the Jewish Zionist terrorist organization the Ingrun gang. Besides the numeric symbolism, its a way for these Israeli terrorists the Mossad to put their signature on terrorist attacks without being obvious. It sends a message and probably puts a smile on their faces.
Irgun, Brian
Yes, Pen, Irgun…and the Irgun’s running around the streets, countryside, and forests of America…it’s getting crowded out here, what with all the Russians lurking about too!…..
A lot of us know Hollywood is run by Jewish people and my guess is the vast majority of them would be horrified to learn Israel did 911. However did some of them have advanced knowledge and didn’t tell us? I have not verified this but here it is from a couple of articles:
There is no doubt that in many movies and TV shows that the number 911 seemed to show up on many various clocks, digital screens, and other symbols. It also seemed to have abruptly stopped right after September 11th, 2001.
Was this the subconscious of various directors pulling those numbers from areas of the brain that we don’t understand yet, or, is it some form of “Hidden in plain sight” communication between those “In-The-Know”.
There are also many other instances I have noticed that are not in this video series although the video itself is pretty extensive. I actually just noticed an instance in Predator 2 about an hour ago that is not in this series.
Some of the instances seem to be defying extraordinary odds.
In the Movie “Hackers” in a scene they look at a computer monitor and on the screen it has the number 911 and 3 of the 911 flight numbers and even the fourth flight 175 which is backwards as 571. What are the odds of a movie showing 2 towers with the words “Crash and Burn” on them and also showing a 911 and all 4 flight numbers on the same screen?
How about the fact that Neo’s passport in “The Matrix” expires on September 11th, 2001. What are the odds of that? When Neo walks in to meet the Oracle notice the fridge magnets say 911. When Neo dies and Trinity brings him back to life she looks at the computer screen and it says “Probe 911″ and it has 93, 11, and 571 again which is flight 175 backwards.
When Goldblum opens his laptop in “Independence Day” the time left until the aliens attack is 09:11:01. What are the astronomical odds of that?
In the movie “Godzilla” the computer screen shows 911, 11, 175, 93, the word “Target” and 2 towers all at the same time on the same screen. Also in the movie a guy looks at his watch and the hands are on the 9 and 11. Furthermore, right at the same exact moment the reporter says the words “What some city officials are calling the worst act of destruction since the World Trade Center bombing” the time clock on the screen reads 17:39:11 How about those odds?
Maybe some of these directors and producers need to start playing the lottery.
The creator of The X-Files even admits in this series that they hide and implant secret information into video and a big-wig at Fox admits the whole system is “Set up to screw with you”.
For those who cry coincidence, I ask you to find me another number sequence that appears as many times as 911. If you can I will retract this story.
There are so many instances it’s actually quite amazing. See for yourself.
Watch the 2 part series below and you make the call yourself. Coincidence, Subconscious, or Conspiracy?
A movie named ‘The patriot’ was released on June 28,2000.
A few minutes into the movie still during the introduction credits you see Mel Gibson weighing a rocking chair, and he says ” 9 pounds, 11 ounces. That’s perfect perfect”. A few seconds later the rocking chair is destroyed.
Here are the links:
http://rabbithole2.com/news/top_news/911_in_wonderland.php
http://troolyunbelievable.blogspot.com/2008/01/freemasons-behind-911-episode-4.html
First link: “This video contains content from EMI, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds”. LOL. “Coverup” grounds more likely.
Penumbra, that’s interesting. Perhaps Abe Foxman can help us.
Hollyweird doesn’t want their subliminal programming of the ignorant masses exposed, plain and simple.
it’s definitely no coincidence!
Yes wolf – saw that report. the WWRevolution has begun. May all good people join and get this done.
Lett’s roll. We will be victorious.
“Egypt is running on a military dictatorship with Israel continuing to pull the strings to a large degree. The Egyptian people are very aware of this and are becoming increasingly “radicalized” toward Israel.”
This brought me back to my university days. Shortly after Sadat was named President, I was enthroning myself in a stall at the university, and began to read the latest “shithouse wit” (now a lost art form). Ah, there was a new one: “Jews rejoice, your messiah Sadat has arrived.”
Over the years I had conversations with people who had a before and after up close view of Mubarak’s Egypt. Virtually all of them were of the opinion that, as bad as Mubarak was, his was a lesser military dictatorship than that of Sadat. Both of course were no Nasser, and perhaps plotters of his “sudden” death.
Sadat was a creature of the Cold War. Mubarak….simply a creature.
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Excellent update and tangible information your reference to Iran Contra leads to one of the best sights on youtube visit http://www.youtube.com/user/IranContraScumDid911 this user and VT sometimes post the same information at the same time without knowing it very serendipitous.
Good old Adolf! Imagine what it would be like to be the most demonized man in history, when you were, in fact, the most remarkable man of the twentieth century. I sincerely hope he did live out his remaining life as an art dealer in South America. As JFK suggested, this man will eventually be exonerated. “Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived…” Long live the late German Chancellor.
I mention this because of an inkling that America will continue to fester in its own pus, until its ignorant citizens are willing to examine the facts about the WWII era and own up to the fact that they, said ignorant USAnians, delivered most of the world into first, marxist, talmudic, communism, and later the existing state of affairs we read about on VT every day.
Leif, I would think the Brits,French and the Russians share some of that blame pie. Don’t ya think?
I think my Picasso came from him.
lol,
yeah, Leif is about as believable as a “starving Israeli art student”.
Did any of you read the “Controversy of Zion” by Douglass Reed – its avail on pdf download for those interested in upping their intelligence quota….
Peter, I am chagrined. Did you not read the review of this outstanding book on VT; Duff, the many comments do not do justice to this profound sumation of world events, good job. If vets join protests, Hope they do so in numbers and in uniform, but strong, calm defiance is in order, not assault. Just remember, the rotten banksters can order out mercenaries who are capable killers and mattoids.
The voice of the warrior must not be lost here!
Yes, honor, nobility, sacrifice-these are not just words-they are a code.
I would respond to penumbra by saying that when young men and women sign up for defense of the Nation and Constitution, they don’t agree to the corrupt and absurd manipulations of sinister men with law degrees, and they never have. No amount of inserted perverted language changes the truth and reality of the oath, it only stains those who would corrupt it for their ends!
Finally, it is best not to wish these warriors to take up arms. Once this happens, there can be no longer a sane and practical solution for this Nation. At that point, it will be civil war. The stupidity of the thugs and their handlers is that if indeed they push it to a contest of arms, they will be mowed down like weeds.
Let us all pray for proper and measured actions by the thugs. Ultimately, their lives depend on it.
to wit I would reply back: (in the words of Thomas Jefferson) “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
That time is approaching fast and the conflict is inevitable. Like it or no.
Your stuff about China and the cascading bank collapses is particularly true. Deflation is already here, in most areas. I have been looking for expensive things like college tuitions to start falling in price. Now that is beginning to happen too. Seton Hall is chopping its tuition by 2/3 for worthy students, to match Rutgers…more of this kind of thing to come.
People have no idea, are still thinking in the old paradigm, where things went up in price and value. In The Great Depression, the newer economy (the US) took a much bigger hit than the old economy (UK). In The Greater Depression, likewise, the newer economy (China) will fare worse than the old (US). As bad as the bubbles are here, they are far worse in China, where housing is vastly overbuilt, and where businesses borrowed from loan sharks like there was no tomorrow. And now tomorrow is here, and Chinese businessmen are disappearing or are jumping off roofs. I saw this happen in Japan in the early 1990s. The street cleaners would go out very early in the morning, to remove the bodies before most people got up. But this is not the early 1990s, and we will eventually find out that those days were a picnic by comparison.
Absolutely correct analysis.
Morally RJ is correct – but morality is a problem for people wherever they maybe….
My post got somehow diverted – it was intended to follow the above RJ….
re-quote: Morally, RJ is correct – but morality is a problem for people wherever they maybe….
By The Way Something very big just hit the SUN
Perhaps we are lucky to be alive. see frames 1-83 on LASCO C3 closeup LASCO C2 zoom out
To watch the object hit.
http://sohodata.nascom.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/soho_movie_theater and select
these parameters and then click search.
LASCO C2 or LASCO C3
resolution 1024 start date 2011-10-01
I hypothesise that this may explain the recent internal NASA “be prepared” video.
Sorry about missing your time off, Gordon. But, thanks for the fascinating, titillating update!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=yeAr_DPpivk
Dear Folks, This is a David Irving talk. I have never seen one that was not worth watching…Jim Dean
IF push comes to shove, Turkey will hand israhell its ass on a plate. Just consider what happened a few years back when israhell invaded Lebanon; The IDF got the shit kicked out of it. Turkey is no pushover and Erdogan is no zionist patsy. NUtty yahoo had better start watching himself.
Would love to see a Marine beat the shit out of a donut eater. Fat, stupid NYPD thugs need to get a taste of their own medicine. How about a can of mace shoved down their throats? You could disguise it as a sugar donut.
It’s going to get real ugly real soon and as the banksters become more scared and anxious, they will call upon their thugs:NYPD, to use more brute force; this in turn will backfire.
What goes around, comes around.
What the champange sipping parasites fail to comprehend in their hubris is that once their paid off thugs are out of the way, those that come for them in their offices, fancy cafes and homes will no have any thought of showing mercy to them, it will simply be apprehension, conviction in the court of public opinion and execution for countless numbers of them.
This is what history has repeatedly taught about inevitable ends of smug oligarchs for the abuses they cause the majority.
When will people wake the hell up and realize you have to pay the piper eventually?
Some just are incapable of learning, obviously.
No Pen, they understand this, and this is what gives them their nightmares… which is why these specific individuals are all Medicating…So when the masses attack these people, they will accept it with drug induced, non hysteria!
How can you trust anybody whose best friend is Robert Gates? Do you know nothing about Gates and his history? Where should I start?
In general, I agree with RJ. Sites like the Huffington Post definitely engage in viewpoint censorship and block out provable information that they don’t want the public to see. In my opinion, keeping the public in the dark from important information they need to run this country should be considered an offense of treason. At the Huffpo they have even made it difficult to browse people’s comments in context. This is a shame. The most I learned were from these comments. Emulating them is not what you want to do. Two wrongs do not make a right. You want to stand up for people’s first amendment rights so they can stand up for yours. Trolls are a problem. I will give you that.
They only do comments to generate more hits for the ad revenue. That is it.
We are better than all of them, but we are not running a chat room. We’ve lost good people of the boards in the past because of the liberal loon policy we had. We finally figured out it was better to lose the loons.
It’s still working. No one has killed anyone…a good measure of success
Everything on this planet has sunk to its lowest level. There are no solutions, no where to go. Thinking it’s time to blow ourselves up and get it over with.
Well, with the way things are going this just might happen……
Please don’t blow yourselves up. Also, let’s not get helter-skelter about summary executions of the evil ones. Citizen arrests must preceed conviction by a Citizens Tribunal. Obviously, the first place to start is to appoint the tribunal. Its existence alone will engender enough fear to rid ourselves of many.
Those holding dual citizenship and passports will not be missed. Others will disappear from power. This country has many fine upstanding citizens just waiting for an opportunity to lower the boom on the destructive criminals.
What we need most at this crucial time is for a leader to emerge. Hitler could speak freely to huge crowds. Our leader will be villified on TV. Why not provide Jesse Ventura with a marine guard and see where that man directs us?
There is nothing trustworthy about this government in D.C.
It’s war on drugs is nothing but a political show for the peons, meanwhile the CIA, ATF, FBI are all in on it. The poor go to prison and the elites pay a small fine and walk. Wells Fargo Bank only had to pay 25 mil and it was business as usual. How much drug money is laundered through Wall St..? It’s anybody’s guess but probably in the billions.
The corruption goes on and on..just like the days of Prohibition: Everyone from the cop on the beat to the mayor, governor and Atty. Gen. was on the take.
When the government become lawless, and decides the Constitution has no relevancy anymore, refuses to acknowledge any of our inalienable rights, rigs elections and sends our young people off to wars for profit then it becomes clear that the time has come for those measures that once were used to free our countrymen from the chains of the British Crown now be used to alter or abolish this present government and replace with a new form which will serve the needs of its people, not the monied elite.
Not the zionists, not israhell, not the feral reserve nor the war mongers and the corporations which grow up around this institution nor special interests which have corrupted nearly every elected official in America; To put a stop to the unchecked illegal immigration which clearly endangers this nation.
All these acts upon which the American people are being made to suffer have become intolerable. The people are being weighed down by tyranny and excess taxation; by excessive laws, restrictions and undue punishments; Their wealth has been stolen from them,leaving only despair and anger. Their children are facing a future of poverty and homelessness.
It has violated our liberties, threatens to destroy our lives and seeks to enslave each and everyone of us. It has made a mockery of justice and replaced it with cronyism and criminality.
Surely no government as unjust as this one can survive much longer before the people finally run out of patience and like their forefathers take up arms and feed the tree of liberty.
“Arbitrary power is most easily established on the ruins of liberty abused to licentiousness.” George Washington.
J rowe says its hopeless, and John z says it all stinks, they are both right, which is why we must no longer play this game. That is exactly what all this is about-no longer playing this game.
We can do this in a sane and reasonable way. We can bring a better way to fruition, but if we wind up going to war its going to be 10 times, 100 times harder. War would be pretty easy.
Really, it wouldn’t take much, a few well timed raids of armories, commandeering a few vehicles, some quick establishment of rank, and its light ‘em up time.
Before we celebrate this, remember that the real goal is not just retribution against evil, its actually building a better world.
People, look at all the crap that came out of the OBL raid, at best a modern lynching. Would we want similar kind of crap? It would be much better to try blankfein, bernnanke, dimon, and all the rest in a very transparent, very public court-and yes it could be a citizen tribunal, but it most certainly should be something better than a lynching.
Listen, I’m not defending any of these types. IF we want and need a better world, THEN we gotta do it in a better way than the greed machines. We can do revenge, but when its all over, will we still be thirsty for justice?
MK
Have you considered other article in VT? Try “Overcoming Mental Illness”.
Al, You either believe we have something worth aspiring for, and something greater than ourselves to adhere to, or you don’t.
Did anyone recently see the birth of the 787?! A new airbus bought by the Japanese. In the News broadcast, they casually meantioned the engines ran at “3000′ DEGREES FAREINHEIT!!! Far passed the 1100 hundred degree, jet fuel…That allegedly ‘melted ‘ the world trade center twin towers…Those towers with certified ‘super stregnth steel’ from nist, that needed to heat for five hours at 2800 degrees,,,
We saw the jet fuel all burn off in a few seconds. When it is traveling at 560 mph, gets ‘mixed with air’ in a tremendous crash like that…you get what we saw…a huge fireball, the second tower anyway.
Then…the jet fuel was gone. There was none left in the bldg to burn at 1100 degrees. One of the things that supports the planes theory is the size of the fuel explosion. You can’t pack that onto a missile.
An Argentine journalist and historian Abel Basti has written a book “Hitler’s Exile” about this Hitler claim, which seems to be the source of the art dealer bit. He claims to have hard evidence, but it is a highly improbable scenario. Even if somehow Hitler had managed to escape to Argentina, the chances of him having been able to stay there undetected and unmolested are practically zero, he was “public enemy number one” worldwide by 1945 and would have had the whole world (or the parts that had the power) after him, which Argentina was in no position to withstand. Siberia would have been a more credible proposition. Plus you would have to discount all the evidence of his fast declining medical condition and his subordinates who were captured interrogated and sometimes tortured (sometimes for years) who uniformly testified to his demise in the bunker. The only viable (hypothetical) scenario is that he had high level protection from TPTB but if so he would not have had to bother dealing art, which he would have considered beneath himself anyway, he viewed himself as an artist, not a merchant (a profession he rather despised and considered Jewish). And absurd as a “cover”, he would have had to have no profile at all to have even a chance of survival. And the Soviets or Russians since would not have maintained they had his remains, but rather capitalised on the “fascistic treachery”.
Steve,
I also think that Hitler did not survive the war, for the simple reason that he was absolutely incapable of keeping his mouth shut. That egomaniac had lived and breathed political opinion from an early age. And his temper! The only way he could have lived to a ripe old age is if someone cut out his tongue so he couldn’t talk, and then fed him drugs the rest of his life, or somehow hypnotized him into thinking he was someone else…
jj
There are so many reasons to doubt the likelihood of this particular claim. Another is that after all those years of living and breathing his ’cause’ 24 hours a day just about, bugging out to South America just doesn’t ring true, least of all to trade pictures. He might have spouted some BS but when he said he would stand or die in Berlin it was credible enough by that stage. Of course some of the others did not share the sentiment though. Bormann in particular may have escaped, a book was in fact written claiming just that, and it’s more credible than this theory.
G,
A very good article! I took note of the last part: “Watch this above all. This will be the big story you may not be reading about over the next year but will see destroying your community and maybe your family as well. We knew it was coming the day we went into Afghanistan. Drug production under US guidance began immediately. The CIA never changes.”
Yes, we are turning into Colombia. If anyone I love ever uses heroin, I will cart them off to Canada or Mexico and use IBOGAINE to get them off of it. That stuff works.
Gordon;
What would your friend Mike Rupert think of the new oil discoveries? He has been talking about Peak Oil for years. I have researched it so much my head hurts. My final conclusion is that Dick Cheney believes it to be true and created policies and war based on his beliefs. It fits in with PNAC plans to dominate oil in the MidEast insuring that the American millitary is the lone superpower and to protect Israel. It is very true that secret alternative energy devices exist. But the common man will never be allowed to use them because the population will continue to soar and the elites don’t want that.
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Those who think we’ve about reached the end are so right. A lady in La Salette, France, has described the situation perfectly. Google: Lady, La Salette