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Stranglehold Afghanistan: How Politics and Lies Is Destroying an Army
First the Army Lies to the President
Followed by the Mitt Romney Knife in the Back
… by Gordon Duff, Senior Editor
American troops in Afghanistan are running out of fuel and food as Christmas approaches. The war rages on as it has for a decade and America is losing, nothing new there.
American supplies are being blockaded in Pakistan because US drones killed 24 Pakistani soldiers.
Compounding the problem now, we have learned that the version of events Pakistan gave in the first place, called “liars” by our press and military, was 100% correct.
The liars were the Americans on the scene whose “Afghan allies,” as usual, ended up totally infiltrated by Taliban.
After 10 years, the new “national army” are all either working for the drug lords of the minority northern alliance or, as with the new “national police,” either petty criminals or Taliban.
These two forces cost more to train and supply than the entire Chinese army, no, we are not kidding, this is how much we have spent or wasted, you choose.
So, when Americans go into the field, their “allies” are invariably their enemies, troops that know America is leaving and ready to lead Americans into an ambush or direct an attack on America’s Pakistani allies as they have time and time again.
Obama In Tough Spot Over Pakistan Troops Killed
In a report released today, the Army admits that it was wrong and President Obama is preparing to issue an apology to Pakistan.
He hopes this will be enough to partially quell anti-American sentiment in Pakistan and get supplies moving before America is forced to begin a “Berlin airlift” or simply withdraw.
The “airlift,” of course, gives Russia total control over American policy in the region which will include a guarantees for the safety of Iran.
Russia has indicated that it will intervene if Iran is attacked and has military preparations for a “limited war” in the region well under way.
With America out of Iraq and only air assets in the region, all that is needed to paralyze American, read “Israeli,” threats against Iran is the delivery of the S300 air defense system that has been withheld for some time.
It is more than capable of shooting down any American stealth aircraft and is largely impervious to our traditional “countermeasures.”
Russia is in negotiations with Turkey, a NATO country, to deliver the S400 system, even more advanced.
Though the S400 has a slightly inferior radar system to the best American anti-ballistic missile system, the S400 outperforms the best America has.
S-400s - Multiple Range Versions - And a Lot of Them
We are told that the needed radar upgrades to make either the S300 (used by Syria) or the S400 vastly superior to America’s air and missile defenses have been stolen and are “on the market” today.
Oddly, “mutually assured defense” may be the new version of “mutually assured destruction,” the Cold War policy that nearly led to world destruction on half a dozen occasions.
ROMNEY GOES BANANAS
Could Mitt Be More Dangerous Than Newt ?
Temporarily taking the lead among potential Republican opponents to President Obama in the upcoming elections is Senator Mitt Romney.
He has been tasked with attacking the President who is trying to save the lives of American troops in Afghanistan, stating that an American “apology” is a sign of weakness.
That America was caught lying, that the Army had been caught lying to the president and that American soldiers at war face bleak prospects because of a supply blockade has escaped Mr. Romney.
He is a total idiot.
PAKISTAN GAMES
Is Gillani Hiding Out From a Coup also?
The current Prime Minister, Gillani former husband of the murdered Benazir Bhutto, is in Dubai. He has a note from his doctor that says he is sick.
Others say he is hiding. Swiss courts want him for laundering drug money. Few in Pakistan care if he returns.
In the interim, Imran Khan, former cricketer and philanthropist who takes a hard line against Pakistan’s history of subservience to America has become the political front-runner.
We know Khan as a genuine moderate, one willing to stand up to the United States but with real leadership capabilities and wide support. We are somewhat prejudiced for him in that he is an editorial contributor and friend.
Khan has what we believe is a workable plan to stabilize the region, secure Pakistan and create a model there that would likely work in Afghanistan as well. He is the only leader respected by all sides.
Please excuse me rerunning this video of Imran Khan. My point being, of course, is to have you watch the video.
If this person were running for president of the United States, would you vote for him? I know the answer and when I brought it up to Khan, he was flabbergasted.
Tell me what you think:
America sees Pakistan as hostile, extremist and unpredictable. Khan, a friend, is exactly who you see in the video. Frankly, he is who we wish Barak Obama was more like.
THE GAMES GET WORSE
Pakistan ISI's Gen. Hamid Gul (VT Director Now) - FBI Director William Webster - CIA Dir. of Operations, Claire George - an ISI Colonel - the Famous Milt Bearden
America has been “pulling the strings” in Pakistan since 1947. India had been “non-aligned” but had always leaned toward the Soviet Union.
So, when Russia sent troops into Afghanistan to bolster the Communist government there, by the way, a government America now wishes was still there, we turned to Pakistan to organize the Mujihideen or “Taliban” to fight for America.
I have met most of the Pakistani military leaders who fought in that campaign, many are friends and all are rabidly pro-American.
The Pakistani Army sees America as its “big brother” and takes great pride in their 60 year relationship, one that has gone very very wrong over the last decade.
But what hasn’t…..
As complicated and boring as real life politics may seem, this will be the best analysis on the situation in Pakistan you will have available. The unedited version is available at the link below.
Now we hear that the CIA is planning to send former former Pakistani General Musharraf, back to Pakistan, loaded with cash, to challenge Imran Khan. From an article yesterday by Veteran Today’s Brigadier General Asif Haroon Raja:
General Musharraf
During his over nine-year rule, Musharraf made many blunders but his biggest blunder was the sacking of chief justice Iftikhar in March 2007, which triggered lawyer’s movement.
There on, his graph kept plummeting till he had to first shed his Army chief’s cap in November 2007 and handing over the baton to Gen Ashfaq Pervez Kayani, and then his president’s cap in August 2008 and paving the way for Asif Ali Zardari to replace him.
Zardari had secretly made an agreement with UK and USA not to impeach or try him and to provide him safe exit in return for helping him in becoming the next president. ..
During his rule, seven attempts were made on his life; two of which were deadly. He subverted the Constitution twice, which as per Article 61 of the Constitution is a treasonous act. He is accused of getting Nawab Akbar Bugti murdered in August 2006.
An FIR to this effect has been registered in Quetta and based on the petition filed; the court has issued his warrants of arrest. Afghan Taliban must not have pardoned him for his betrayal. The Baloch and Pashtuns of FATA hate him since he had initiated military operations against them.
Religious groups also bear a grudge against him since he had oppressed them. Victims of Guantanamo Bay Prison as well as family of Dr Aafia Siddiqui (a critical issue…editor’s note) who had been handed over by him to USA cannot forgive him.
It seems Musharraf has not learnt any lesson from the fate of Benazir. He is leading a comfortable life in London and receives heavy payments for his lectures in various educational institutes in USA and western countries.
The Three Faces of Dr. Aafia Siddiqu
He has accumulated so much of wealth during his stint in power that he can live a lord’s life in London where he has an expensive flat in elitist constituency. The magnitude of his wealth can be measured from the fact that he managed to establish a political party which he has named as All Pakistan Muslim League (APML)…
Great majority of people are of the view that Musharraf’s flawed policies and issuance of NRO to prolong his rule are responsible for the current deplorable state of affairs of the country. The NRO was issued by Gen Musharraf on 5 October 2007 as a consequence to a power sharing deal with Benazir struck in Dubai in July 2007 at the behest of USA and UK.
Condoleezza Rice in his recently published book has given graphic details of her personal efforts in making the two agree to the deal. The NRO helped in absolving the top leaders of PPP and thousands of MQM leaders and party activists involved in corruption and heinous crimes, and in facilitating homecoming of Benazir in October 2007.
He must remember that ground situation has radically changed. In 2008, the grip of the US over Pakistan’s internal affairs was so strong that it had managed to influence the outcome of 2008 elections. Rating of the PPP and Zardari was high.
Today Pak-US relations are at its lowest ebb and new terms of engagement are being formulated. PPP has become highly unpopular because of its poor performance and corrupt practices while Zardari has lost his credibility.
Musharraf as Prime Minister
He is under substantial strain since the Supreme Court is exerting pressure to implement its 16 December 2009 verdict on NRO and to revive money laundering cases pending against him in foreign countries.
Memogate scandal is under purview of the Supreme Court, while Abbottabad Commission is investigating 2 May incident (the “phony killing” of bin Laden…editor). Possibility of its linkage with memo affair is being determined.
Tehrik-e-Insaf (TI) under Imran Khan has emerged as a third force and well-known figures from all political parties are drifting towards it. Biggest defections are taking place from PML-Q in which APML had attached lot of hopes.
Imran has become a leading crowd puller and seems to have outshined all politicians.
If Musharraf thinks he will also be able to attract crowds like Imran Khan and will become as popular as him, he is sadly mistaken.
What is never mentioned, of course, is that $80 billion dollars of heroin cash is flowing into the region, in and out, with the biggest beneficiaries being the CIA, key GOP policians, bankers in Tel Aviv, Zurich and Dubai and selected elected officials in Islamabad, Kabul and Delhi.
Less well known are groups within Russia who have helped this trafficking of narcotics nearly destroy their own country. Vladamir Putin says, privately, that he plans a bloody purge of all involved, no matter what country they are in. Is this just empty talk?
CONCLUSION
I hate the use of “conclusion” as a “ham handed” way of tying up my attempt at making a complicated situation seem simple. There is nothing simple about it, nothing for “sound bites” or easy political headlines.
We are working to save a military situation in Afghanistan that is, in itself, unsupportable.
These “conspiracy theories” are facts:
- There is not now, nor has there ever been an “Al Qaeda”
- There has never been any terrorist involvement by Osama bin Laden who I can prove died on December 13, 2001
- We can prove that key aspects of the “incident” known as “9/11″, the Pentagon attack and Building 7, were planned and executed by Americans with Israeli help. This provides a rationale for assuming that other attacks coincidentally on the same day and same place may have been planned and executed by the same people, meaning “no terrorists were involved in this production”
- Vice President Biden is correct in his assumptions about the Taliban and GOP criticism is the kind of “treasonous wartime betrayal” that Newt Gingrich is famous for “doubletalking” about
- The recent admission of lying by the Army tied to the killings in Pakistan also provide “reasonable doubt” about other statements tying Pakistan to the Taliban. They are lies also.
The Shah Returning to Iran After CIA Coup - Democracy Was Not 'In' Then
The United States, after apologizing to Pakistan, now owes Iran an apology for overthrowing its democratically elected government in 1953 and replacing it with a brutal dictatorship, not based on security needs but done entirely at the behest of oil companies.
I can prove every word of this, feel free to drag me into a London court any time.
This doesn’t mean the current government of Iran is “ideal.” I find it unbalanced and oppressive but I also consider Israel a military dictatorship.
I am simply being honest and have impeccable sources.
Yesterday, I read an article by Dr. Kevin Barrett on Veterans Today. As his editor, I didn’t find this a “barn burner,” filled with wild conspiracies and tales of bloody rape. Thus, as “journalism” goes, as we know it today, it is hardly noticeable.
What it did contain is quality thinking, in this case, by someone other than myself. I can’t tell you what enjoyment I find in that. I will edit this down a bit, although it is short enough, and hope others will follow the link above and read it all:
Brother John
In his classic On Liberty, John Stuart Mill observes:
“Wherever the (religious) sentiment of the majority is still genuine and intense, it is found to have abated little of its claim to be obeyed.”
More than 150 years later, Mill’s dictum holds true. In irreligious Europe, as in the great coastal metropolitan centers of the USA, there is little legal or social pressure to obey religious dictates.
Whereas in the Islamic world, and parts of the American heartland, where deeply religious majorities exist, religious opinion demands obeisance on important matters.
Is religion, then, an impediment to liberty? Can liberty flower in societies of fervent religiosity? Is the so-called Arab Spring, whose twin banners are Liberty and Islam, doomed to collapse under the burden of a contradiction?
To begin to address this question, we must revisit Mill’s argument. The basic problem that On Liberty addresses is not despotism, but the rise of democracy. Mill correctly points out that under traditional despotisms, the population views the government as a powerful Other if not an outright enemy.
The despot is tolerated because his power allows him to occasionally suppress pettier despots, thereby maintaining a modicum of social order and a degree of justice for the many. Under such conditions, custom and practice if not law limit the range of situations into which the government may stick its nose. The result is a fair amount of de facto liberty.
Democracy, according to Mill, threatens to actually reduce liberty. Why? Because once the people feel the government is an expression of their own will, rather than the will of some distant despot, they are tempted to use it to enforce their own preferences and opinions on other people, whose liberty is thereby violated.
Once Upon a Time - In a Far Away Place - Average Americans Followed History Making Political Debates
I just spent the last 20 minutes writing what is essentially a “briefing” that is considered inappropriate for what Debbie Menon calls “the unwashed masses.” The best materials, of course, were borrowed from others.
When there are political debates and candidates don’t know one country from another, how can we expect them to deal with what should be the normal complexities of office?
I am fairly sure that the average American, given a few days coaching, which I am probably qualified to do, will end up with a rudimentary understanding of economics, military and foreign affairs.
They could then certainly be able to express themselves well enough to make Newt Gingrich, the GOP “braintrust baby” look like the half baked moron I know him to be.
This information, lacking the photos of the Kardashians and J Lo, boring though it may seem, is a vital part of real democracy as opposed to “mob rule,” something we have enjoyed of late and may expect more of.
“Mob rule” isn’t by accident. It has taken several billion dollars to gain control of media and pop culture to “de-educate” America, in particular, putting out two consecutive generations of college graduates, many with advanced degrees, that are embarrassingly ignorant.
America didn’t end up the “failed state” it is today without alot of well educated morons.
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Plain and simple, Romney is BAD!
@ Gordon
This doesn’t mean the current government of Iraq is “ideal.”
Was this a typo for “Iran?”
fixed several typos….
Ron Paul never looked better, but it is a little late to mind our own business.
They keep running one loser after another up the flag pole and enthusiastically saluting, yet the public is not buying. What happens when Paul finishes in Iowa and NH in the top spot?
The attacks are likely to get nastier, and if that doesn’t work, the voting machine rigging, and if that fails?
Reminiscent of Ross Perot in 1991.
yep, its already getting ugly. CNN tried to diss Paul today on their report labeling him a racist. They’re running scared and that’s a very good thing for America.
Americans are really fed up, we all know it. The establishment thinks they can keep pulling off the same old bs and get away with it. Its not working as witnessed by the recent decline of Newt. These guys are digging their own graves in front of our eyes.
Michael
Gordon,
It reminds me of the specialized knowledge on a single topic (so popular, inefficient, costly and easily controlled) we see in medicine, science, etc. vs the integrating of many disciplines and views into a unified conceptual framework.
Compartments, like spokes on a wheel, where each does not know the other and only the center of the hub is able to view them all together. It is by design, and critically flawed.
I wouldn’t write off all people on the coasts. It New England, they have long, hard fought traditions, looking out for each other and the country and religion is not dead.
There are no “Americans” in Afghanistan. There is no “American Army” in Afghanistan. When our Masters started all these illegal, immoral, self-destructive wars, and when people volunteered to go, that’s when it was all trashed.
Our Congress has been trashed, the whole Executive branch has been trashed, our Courts have been trashed, the UN has been trashed, our churches and schools have been trashed, our dollar and our economy has all been been trashed. Put simply, any and every institution that has sold out and isn’t doing its part to oppose the treason and the treachery that have enveloped this land…have all been trashed.
Frankly I hope “the troops” get cut off and starve to death in Afghanistan. They don’t work for me or you, they work for the people whose goal is to destroy us and our country. In light of this sad but obvious fact, screw “the troops”. They’re nothing but sheeple with guns – self-debased cannon fodder – brain-dead-flag-waving-blowhards, every bit as guilty as Bush, Obama, McCain, et al., and their Jewish supremacist puppetmasters.
Harold, get a grip. The troops are every bit a victim in this as American citizens are. They’re not “flag waving blowhards”, most are you men and women looking for a future.
Douche Bag.
Michael
Harold, This is a rather unique observation that those on the bottom are responsible for deceptions and manipulations of those in power. We have seen a lot of different ideas and arugments here over the years, but this is a new one.
You are either a lot smarter than the rest of us, or…like we HAVE seen many times before, you are letting your frustration get the better of your brain. I can assure you that you don’t have a monopoly on frustration of who the 21rst century is unflolding.
BTW, I trimmed some of our anger comments. They are not wanted or permitted here as it drives readers way. If you have points to make…make them, but please pass on the tit for tat stuff. We have to try to set an example as to who to act when you have disagreements with folks.
There’s nothing “unique” about holding people responsible for their own moral choices, Jim. What’s “unique” here is the ugly truth, the truth that many people simply don’t want to hear.
I’m merely bringing some much needed honesty to the discussion.
You and I both know that the apologists/hypocrites wouldn’t like it if if they and their families were the victims of “the troops”. Would you be willing to excuse “the troops” so readily if it was your own family that got shot-up at a check point, in the middle of an illegal, immoral war of aggression? I think not.
If you can excuse “the troops”, then you can also excuse hired killers of any stripe, can’t you? And while we’re at it, let’s excuse the cops that are brutalizing the OWS protesters. And then where do you stop? In a sense Obama and Bush aren’t the top dogs either, nor is McCain, Graham, etc. or any of the other governmental scum bags…all the way up to the top…everybody’s off the hook. Doesn’t work. Can’t do it.
Lastly, the “people” at the top are relatively small in number and cowardly. The only reason they’ve been able to do so much damage, and they only reason they presently threaten the whole world, is because so many small-minded people are willing to do their dirty work. And even more paople are willing to make excuses for them.
BTW, I don’t like ad hominem myself, but he started it, not me. And in fact you left his original comment stand for some reason.
Harold may be on the right track; how many of those soldiers and their families still believe the Bill O’Reilly version of 9-11? Maybe less enlisting and more fragging is called for…or a benevolent military coup…At least an attack on Israel to avenge the USS Liberty…Something! Something to make me proud of “our” military!
Mr. Smith, your moral judgements are utterly absurd. Using your philosophy, Bush2, Cheney, Clinton, the Newter, catchers’ Mit, etc. are fine and upstanding people, all because they no doubt made a great moral decision to refuse service. Fear, and self preservation, doubtless had nothing to do with it.
Ok, now that we know that chickenshit cowards are great people, according to your morality, here comes the next shoe to drop, you, Mr. Smith, are personally responsible for myriad evils befalling humanity-and the planet.
Yes Mr. Smith, it is YOUR FAULT that banksters everywhere are redefining the term “criminal”. Why? Because you have made a moral decision to use money, and not barter. But wait, there’s more!
Mr. Smith, you are PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE for the passage of the NDAA2011, because you did not travel to congress, and personally grab every senator by the lapels, to get them to deliver a nay vote.
You ARE RESPONSIBLE for the deplorable state of our drinking water, because the extraction of resources required to heat your sorry behind in the winter are obtained via fracking, a procedure that poisons ground water. Never mind that Cheney moved in secret to both protect and accelerate this procedure, it would not be needed if you would simply STOP heating your residence.
Further, you are directly responsible for the arrested development of evolution, simply by your moral decision to continue to eat. Your eating, Mr. Smith, injures and kills countless life forms on farms and ranches all around the globe. Who knows what wonderful new life forms will never develop because your eating has stolen their right to exist.
In conclusion, Mr. Smith, your attitude toward Warriors is as ill informed and self servingly arrogant as your simplistic and idiotic moral code. If you want an introduction to the plight of the Warrior, and the depths of real philosophy, and real moral issues, I direct you to the Bagavaad Gita.
LOL! Leave it to a Jew to make such an absurdly dishonest post…reflecting abject moral incompetence…and on Christmas yet! Of course we all know what most of you Jews think about Jesus Christ, Christmas and Christian doctrine in general.
In any case, firstly, no, I neither stated nor implied that “refusing service”, in and of itself, was *sufficient* grounds to deem a person “fine and upstanding”. (BTW, “service”, by itself, is morally neutral. It’s the context in which the “service” takes place that makes all the difference).
Maybe you can find a helpful adult in your neighborhood to read what I wrote and explain it to you in simpler terms, commensurate with your profoundly limited mental faculties.
In the meantime, I’ll try one more time to get through to you. My “philosophy” is quite simple. Are you ready? Here it is expressed in simple terms that even someone of your limited mental and moral reasoning ability should be able to grasp:
Don’t do something to someone else, that you wouldn’t done to you.
There now, that’s not so difficult, is it?
You see, moral reasoning, like other forms of reasoning, spans a spectrum from simple and basic and obvious, to abstract and arcane and speculative. Even a young child playing in a sandbox (a “normal” child, that is), realizes that he wouldn’t want another child to throw sand in his face, and thus he would have some compunction about doing it to another child, accordingly. The child may not understand the speculative, esoteric reasoning that the sand in the sand box, were it used elsewhere, would provide a habitat for some other living creatures blah blah blah. So the child could not be deemed “immoral” in any meaningful sense, but if anything, merely “incompetent”.
Just as not everyone understands differential equations or quantum electrodynamics, some people are not able to comprehend the more abstract forms of moral reasoning. That’s why we have scientists and engineers who do understand differential equations. And because of their superior understanding of science and technology, even people who don’t understand differential equations or finite element numerical methods are still able to have a car to drive and a TV set to watch. Likewise, we have philosophers and theologians that do have a superoior ability to do moral reasoning, and we depend on them for guidance in more complex moral situations, and they provide us with things like the “Doctrine of Just War”, accordingly.
For you to try to compare the simple, obvious, black-and-white, right-from-wrong situation at issue here with anything else, is just another example of your own dishonesty and/or mental defectiveness. Nice try though.
Typo Correction: “Don’t do something to someone else, that you wouldn’t want done to you.
Dear Mr. Smith, this is the first time I have come across a well thought out logical argument, on this FORUM. Of course, people are jumping all over you but if my knowledge of history is even close to accurate, our military has never waged in a just war, and I am talking about starting before the War of Independence.
Recall that the “Boston Tea Party” was a false flag. Since you have touched a raw nerve here, you need to steel yourself for lot cheap shots. After all this is the Veterans Forum. They are all complicit (perhaps unwittingly). It will take a lot of work to help them uncircle their wagons.
Now you have to remember that “My country right or Wrong” is the operative motto here. Jim Dean cannot write a passage to save his life; Gordon has little birds whispering in his ears.
Of course, I read some of their “intellectual” gems and wonder if the alternative media is not even worse than the MSM. Back in 80s, when we were debating whether to let this monstrosity loose on the public, I was among those among the losing side: we suspected and forecast that commercialization of this thing will lead to the abuse and chaos that we are seeing today. However, the prospect of a quick commercial windfall always trumps reason.
Think about all the dotcoms, the Enrons, the small investor trading against the sharks, the governments engaging in cyber warfare, identity theft, loss of privacy, and people like Alex jones making fool of people.
VT is relatively clean; however, the question is for how long? You cannot fight the nature: the water always flows downhill. Also, remember that these people fought (probably were fooled into fighting) but it takes a big man to realize when he has made a mistake. Self-criticism requires a lot of maturity and deprograming.
We are already noticing the acerbic remarks, putdowns and accusations of ad-hominem attacks.
People have learned these terms, but they probably do not even know what it means. An ad-hominem attack is a logical fallacy: when during the course of a logical debate one of the participants comes across a strong logical argument against which he has no defense, he goes on to proclaim, “Your mama is ugly!” Which is has nothing to do with the topic of the debate–unless that was the topic of the debate. Calling a liar a liar is not ad-hominem attack: it is the truth!
The people who are jumping all over you forget that they are the (perhaps unwitting) enablers. They forget that they have taken an oath to protect the constitution from all enemies, “foreign or domestic”. I don’t know—given the level of education these days—that a kid from Nowhere, AL. even understands what the constitution is, let alone is able to parse it for meaning, and form legal opinions based on their personal reflection.
The only way out is not to give them the oath. It is shameful to make people take oaths without understanding a word of it. It is just like in my neighborhood, someone thought up a clever way to discourage solicitation. They handed us all these nice stickers, which said, “No Solicitation!” Since I am on sabbatical and not living in my campus town, I did not realize the degree of education off-campus. I knew that it was terrible on-campus. The solicitors still kept knocking; I started to ask them if they knew what the sticker said: not one of them knew what it meant! Then I started asking kids around the neighborhood if they knew what it meant? Same thing, many adults thought it had something to do with knocking on the door but they did not know what it meant exactly, some thought it had to do with prostitution!
So you are up against the worst possible foe—ignorance! Good luck with your noble fight.
BTW, did you have any complaints when we could not email, text, Google, paid bills by checks—personally; I think we did pretty well. Perhaps poor “Ted” had a point, he was just ahead of his time.
Best regards,
Nasir
If there’s a prototype methodology, it has to take its form from haroldsmith’s utterances. The weak link, the sinuous path to halting the madness is to deball the military volunteer system. No cannon fodder, no military. I see the hubbub and local celebrations when a soldier comes back from the Middle East and all I can think of is, “what a dupe that dupa is”. He/she probably feels the war is justified, on the side of freedom and justice, etc. Little does that numbskull realize that the United States, wearing the condom of the neocon Zionists, has played another game of imperialism while eviscerating another country. I saw a young Marine reservist get called up for 3 tours in Iraq/Afghanistan and at age 28, the kid has lost both kidneys and got hassled by the VA for lifetime care assurances. Gradually, the bitterness is taking over the consciousness of this ex-Marine, a kid who proudly wore the uniform once, but now realizes he’s been screwed like I got screwed, like you got screwed. Just imagine your next door neighbor fighting for the likes of one Richard Cheney, George W. Bush, Rumsfeld and the rest of the MI mafia. Only the strength of the propaganda machine being absorbed into the weak minds of horrendously educated young people allows these things to happen. No analytic thinking is the leading cause of death in the volunteer military. Only Ron Paul can put us on the road forward, the rest of the Israel suckups are bought and paid-for stooges. Trouble is, us old geezers are today’s Minute Men and our time is limited, too limited. It’s got to be Paul, anybody else is a joke that can never be forgiven.
Mr. Smith has not, because he cannot, accept the moral responsibility for his own actions. His argument is shallow, full of idiotic personal attacks that cloak his lack of any point. No one here seems to understand the simple fact that if young men don’t volunteer, it will mean conscription, and conscription is nothing less than another attack the downtrodden, the poor, and the law abiding.
If no one volunteered, if everyone refused, the game would simply get hotter and more difficult, I can attest this to be true with personal experience.
The true solution lies with a change of what the leadership can pull off. Morons like Mr. Smith exist to obscure this very fact.
If he has any point to offer at all, it is that he cannot discern between those who put the vehicle in gear and those who provide the horsepower.
As the Vietnam War raged in the 1960s, Mitt Romney received a deferment from the draft as a Mormon “minister of religion” for the duration of his missionary work in France, which lasted two and a half years. Before and after his missionary deferment, Romney also received nearly three years of deferments for his academic studies. When his deferments ended and he became eligible for military service in 1970, he drew a high number in the annual lottery that determined which young men were drafted. His high number ensured he was not drafted into the military.”
source http://www.abeldanger.net/2011/12/ann-romney-conspiracy-with-father-mitt.html#more
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Mitt Romney’s life as a poor Mormon missionary in France questioned
Much of Mitt Romney’s life as a Mormon missionary in France was not as poor or arduous as he has claimed, say those who knew him at the time.
A day after being labelled “out of touch” for casually offering a $10,000 bet to a rival candidate, Mr Romney told supporters he had experienced austerity as a missionary in France, using a bucket for a lavatory and a hose for a shower. “You’re not living high on the hog at that kind of level,” he said.
But the Republican presidential hopeful spent a significant portion of his 30-month mission in a Paris mansion described by fellow American missionaries to The Daily Telegraph as “palace”. It featured stained glass windows, chandeliers, and an extensive art collection. It was staffed by two servants – a Spanish chef and a houseboy.
Although he spent time in other French cities, for most of 1968, Mr Romney lived in the Mission Home, a 19th century neoclassical building in the French capital’s chic 16th arrondissement. “It was a house built by and for rich people,” said Richard Anderson, the son of the mission president at the time of Mr Romney’s stay. “I would describe it as a palace”.
Tearful as he described the house, Mr Anderson, 70, of Kaysville, Utah, said Romney aides had asked him not to speak publicly about their time together there.
Mr Romney moved into the building following a stay in Bordeaux, after being promoted to assistant to the president, Duane Anderson. He arrived in the spring of 1968, weeks before Paris erupted into riots, and returned to the US that December. He was given a room on the third floor.
“They were very big rooms,” said Christian Euvrard, the 72-year-old director of the Mormon-run Institute of Religion in Paris, who knew Mr Romney. “Very comfortable. The building had beautiful gilded interiors, a magnificent staircase in cast iron, and an immense hall.”
In his remarks this week, Mr Romney said of his French lodgings: “I don’t recall any of them having a refrigerator. We shopped before every meal”. Mr Anderson said that as well as a refrigerator, the mansion had “a Spanish chef called Pardo and a house boy, who prepared lunch and supper five days a week”.
It was “well equipped” with all modern conveniences, including a combination washer-dryer machine, Mr Anderson said. “I never saw anything like it in another private home at that time.”
Mr Romney added in his comments that “most of the apartments I lived in had no shower or bathtub”. He said: “If we were lucky, we actually bought a hose and we stuck it on the sink.” He said he was forced to use a hole in the ground and a bucket for a lavatory.
Jean Caussé, a 72-year-old Mormon who met Mr Romney in Bordeaux, said he “would be astonished” if that had been the case. “I never knew missionaries who had to do that,” he said. “I don’t see why he would have lived in conditions like that for two years when it was far from the general case”.
The mission home in Paris was fully plumbed and central heated. “All of the missionary rooms had something like a bath or a shower attached to it,” said Mr Anderson. “The home had several”.
source http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-politics/8959440/US-election-2012-Mitt-Romneys-life-as-a-poor-Mormon-missionary-in-France-questioned.html
Dear Captain Gordon,
……And so, now we have further details on just how we, the United States Of America, were deceived into the War in Afghanistan and then IRAQ.
……Read it and WEEP my fellow American Patriots. I would like to hear our American, Israeli, and British LEADERS refute these allegations, in VERY SPECIFIC DETAIL, especially since the cost to the world, to America (in terms of lives, our Bill Of Rights , the US Constitution, and our Economy) has been So Great its incalculable. I’m Waiting.
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Mossad ran 9/11 Arab “hijacker” terrorist operation
By Wayne Madsen on December 23, 2011
Wayne Madsen – via Opinion Maker January 27, 2011
British intelligence reported in February 2002 that the Israeli Mossad ran the Arab hijacker cells that were later blamed by the U.S. government’s 9/11 Commission for carrying out the aerial attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon. WMR has received details of the British intelligence report which was suppressed by the government of then-Prime Minister Tony Blair.
A Mossad unit consisting of six Egyptian- and Yemeni-born Jews infiltrated “Al Qaeda” cells in Hamburg (the Atta-Mamoun Darkanzali cell), south Florida, and Sharjah in the United Arab Emirates in the months before 9/11. The Mossad not only infiltrated cells but began to run them and give them specific orders that would eventually culminate in their being on board four regularly-scheduled flights originating in Boston, Washington Dulles, and Newark, New Jersey on 9/11.
The Mossad infiltration team comprised six Israelis, comprising two cells of three agents, who all received special training at a Mossad base in the Negev Desert in their future control and handling of the “Al Qaeda” cells. One Mossad cell traveled to Amsterdam where they submitted to the operational control of the Mossad’s Europe Station, which operates from the El Al complex at Schiphol International Airport. The three-man Mossad unit then traveled to Hamburg where it made contact with Mohammed Atta, who believed they were sent by Osama Bin Laden. In fact, they were sent by Ephraim Halevy, the chief of Mossad.
The second three-man Mossad team flew to New York and then to southern Florida where they began to direct the “Al Qaeda” cells operating from Hollywood, Miami, Vero Beach, Delray Beach, and West Palm Beach. Israeli “art students,” already under investigation by the Drug Enforcement Administration for casing the offices and homes of federal law enforcement officers, had been living among and conducting surveillance of the activities, including flight school training, of the future Arab “hijacker” cells, particularly in Hollywood and Vero Beach.
In August 2001, the first Mossad team flew with Atta and other Hamburg “Al Qaeda” members to Boston. Logan International Airport’s security was contracted to Huntleigh USA, a firm owned by an Israeli airport security firm closely connected to Mossad — International Consultants on Targeted Security – ICTS. ICTS’s owners were politically connected to the Likud Party, particularly the Netanyahu faction and then-Jerusalem mayor and future Prime Minister Ehud Olmert. It was Olmert who personally interceded with New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani to have released from prison five Urban Moving Systems employees, identified by the CIA and FBI agents as Mossad agents. The Israelis were the only suspects arrested anywhere in the United States on 9/11 who were thought to have been involved in the 9/11 attacks.
The two Mossad teams sent regular coded reports on the progress of the 9/11 operation to Tel Aviv via the Israeli embassy in Washington, DC. WMR has learned from a Pentagon source that leading Americans tied to the media effort to pin 9/11 on Arab hijackers, Osama Bin Laden, and the Taliban were present in the Israeli embassy on September 10, 2001, to coordinate their media blitz for the subsequent days and weeks following the attacks. It is more than likely that FBI counter-intelligence agents who conduct surveillance of the Israeli embassy have proof on the presence of the Americans present at the embassy on September 10. Some of the Americans are well-known to U.S. cable news television audiences.
(This story continues at TheTruthSeeker and also at Wayne Madsen’s site.)
……………………AND ON AND ON IT GOES. I truly believe, that this Years “Day Of Atonement” should go further.
Now that’s just me, but common people.
Is is better to die on your Feet, or live on your Knees.
Gordon says there is no Al Qaeda. So how could “Mossad” infiltrate something that didn’t exist?? Somebody is full of shit one way or another. And this isn’t the first time Madsen delivered a big load of it. What happened to the story he was hiding out in the boonies somewhere because his domestic “enemies” ie the WH were trying to whack him out? I may well be a stupid old geezer but I know one thing: when those JSOC dudes decide you’re done, you’re done. Since Madsen is still around dumping his various loads, I have to conclude he was just lying about it. Therefore he could be or is lying about most everything else. If he was whacked out, we could maybe believe his previous stuff BUT..
Don’t you believe that there are loyal Americans within all branches of the military and also within the various Agencies, some at very high levels, groups of them, and they would want to protect people with the courage to speak out. I would not expect the “Bad Guys” to control everything, and even if they controlled JSOC, there are other groups with as much or more “punch” within our ranks.
There are aspects and elements of an “Al Qaeda” force, made-up on purpose (as is mentioned in the article), useful and rolled out when needed, but not supplied, constituted, or commanded by who we believe leads them.
Maybe your right, but I doubt it, based just on what you said so far.
It doesn’t exist…The “hijackers” who hijacked nothing got their passports through CIA intervention at the Consulate in Jedda…building a narrative…flight students…”hostile” and in the country…2 FBI agents paying their bills…Mossad tracking them the whole time to make sure their assets in the sister agencies were doing their job…to insure that the “show could go on” on 9-11…and the patsies, several of whom are still alive, could take the rap…”build that narrative agent 99″…And no 767 hit the Pentagon….no cell calls fm 30,000 ft, etc….Mid-air pulverizations and controlled demos of Towers…Enough already..
@ Bob, “Gordon says there is no Al Qaeda”. Irrelevant. There is the creation “Al-CIA-DUH”. And this “lab created monster” has been roaming the “hillsides” of the world as we are “told it exists” for over a decade now. This “entity” has been blamed for enough globally accepted/USA accepted atrocity to have allowed the previously unfathomable loss of liberty and freedom to “blossom” right in front of all of our faces “in the land of the free, home of the brave”. This illusion “Al Qaeda” has done more damage than even the “creators” could have hoped for.
Anytime you see ANYONE claiming they are Al Qaeda, understand a CIA/USA paycheck is already in their pocket. The only real enemy WE are fighting…..is us. Or better stated, THEM, as represented by the “shadow government” that has us all by the short and curlies. The MSM is not our friend. And niether is this continued lie and facade. The coming year will have the entity “Al Qaeda” eating your children alive while you watch. Courtesy of the bought and paid for MSM.
You’ve overlooked a small but important detail: Madsen put Al Qaeda in quotation marks. He didn’t say Al Qaeda, he said “Al Qaeda”. And this implies he is aware that there is a problem with the nomenclature of the propagandistic world of the fraudulent “war on terror”. Yes, in this era of universal deceit, language itself (the distortion and abuse of it) is another enemy weapon system.
Christmas for Gordon, Joint Chiefs, WH, Vets, Soldiers, LEO’s… this politically incorrect Christmas Music Video has some hundreds of views, on three YouTube channels, during the week it has been posted. I dediate it to Obama-Bush, because I really can’t see where one ends and the other begins: “Christmas NWO Style”, at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KigWJRftyeM
Gordon,
Regarding this:
“There has never been any terrorist involvement by Osama bin Laden who I can prove died on December 13, 2001″
I would love to see the proof. I’m not doubting you, I’ve heard Steve Pieczenik say the same thing. I’ve expressed these views to people I know in the intelligence world and in fact one of my xmas presents was this:
KBL Kill Bin Laden by John Weisman
http://www.amazon.com/KBL-Laden-Novel-Based-Events/dp/0062119516
How to respond to an xmas gift like that?
-Mike
I know bin Laden’s CIA handlers who were informed of his death in 2001. A team recovered his body then.
Both Secretary Gates and Director Panetta, if you check, “hinted” bin Laden was dead.
Then, of course, you have your proof….his body, the photos, the DNA evidence and the witnesses except
there is no body
no photos
no DNA evidence and
the supposed witnesses are dead
oops