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Bush Knew Bin Laden Murdered in 2001

Toledo Blade, January 19, 2002

Bin Laden Death Deemed Murder of CIA Case Officer as 9/11 Coverup

 

 by Gordon Duff, Senior Editor

 

President George W. Bush knew Osama bin Laden was a CIA agent and in no way ever involved in 9/11.

He knew bin Laden personally from family visits and knew bin Laden had been to the White House while living in the US under the cover name of “Tim Osmon.” 

This has been verified by CIA officials.

Bush also knew bin Laden died on December 13, 2001.  How did he know?  He read it on Fox News:

Report: Bin Laden Already Dead

Published December 26, 2001 FoxNews.com

This is not how it happend

Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung  complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader  who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader.

“The Coalition troops are engaged in a mad search operation but they would  never be able to fulfill their cherished goal of getting Usama alive or dead,”  the source said.

Bin Laden, according to the source, was suffering from a serious lung  complication and succumbed to the disease in mid-December, in the vicinity of  the Tora Bora mountains. The source claimed that bin Laden was laid to rest  honorably in his last abode and his grave was made as per his Wahabi belief.

About 30 close associates of bin Laden in Al Qaeda, including his most  trusted and personal bodyguards, his family members and some “Taliban friends,”  attended the funeral rites. A volley of bullets was also fired to pay final  tribute to the “great leader.”

The Taliban source who claims to have seen bin Laden’s face before burial  said “he looked pale … but calm, relaxed and confident.”

Asked  whether bin Laden had any feelings of remorse before death, the source  vehemently said “no.” Instead, he said, bin Laden was proud that he succeeded in  his mission of igniting awareness amongst Muslims about hegemonistic designs and  conspiracies of “pagans” against Islam. Bin Laden, he said, held the view that  the sacrifice of a few hundred people in Afghanistan was nothing, as those who  laid their lives in creating an atmosphere of resistance will be adequately  rewarded by Almighty Allah.

When asked where bin Laden was buried, the  source said, “I am sure that like other places in Tora Bora, that particular  place too must have vanished.”

Tim Osmon and Brzezinski

CIA officials report that, even after 9/11, they were actively seeking a kidney transplant for bin Laden to keep him alive.  They confirmed that he was actively being paid, had security clearances and was working on assignments received on or after 9/11.

They also confirmed bin Laden had, because of health reasons, not been living in Bahrain as thought but San Diego.  While there, he visited the White House and met with George H. W. Bush and other members of the Bush family including George W. Bush.

Bin Laden felt betrayed when the President, a man he knew as a personal friend, ordered his killing after 9/11, particularly since bin Laden was an active CIA agent.

Other “hunts” for bin Laden were staged to provide him cover while his severe illness put him in and out of American hospitals, something that would have destroyed his credibility with many groups he worked with.

I confirmed bin Laden’s death in a personal meeting with General Athar Abbas and his staff in 2010.  They confirmed that America has been aware of bin Laden’s death for all along.  General Abbas refused to answer other questions on this subject.

MURDER

Bin Laden died of kidney disease, being forced to leave his dialysis machine behind when American troops came to his home to kill him.  As a response, bin Laden did an interview with Al Jazeera denying any involvement with 9/11 and suggesting America look elsewhere.

This is from the official CIA transcript of Osama bin Laden’s last public statement:

CIA Official Transcript

  • “The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; the people who are a part of the US system, but are dissenting against it. Or those who are working for some other system; persons who want to make the present century as a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity so that their own civilization, nation, country, or ideology could survive.”
  • “They can be any one, from Russia to Israel and from India to Serbia.”
  • “Then you cannot forget the American Jews, who are annoyed with President Bush ever since the elections in Florida and want to avenge him.”
  • “Then there are intelligence agencies in the US, which require billions of dollars worth of funds from the Congress and the government every year. This [funding issue] was not a big problem till the existence of the former Soviet Union but after that the budget of these (FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY 180)  agencies has been in danger. They needed an enemy. So, they first started propaganda against Usama and Taliban and then this incident happened.”
  • “Drug smugglers from all over the world are in contact with the US secret agencies. These agencies do not want to eradicate narcotics cultivation and trafficking because their importance will be diminished. The people in the US Drug Enforcement Department are encouraging drug trade so that they could show performance and get millions of dollars worth of budget. General Noriega was made a drug baron by the CIA and, in need, he was made a scapegoat.”
  • “President Bush or any other US President, they cannot bring Israel to justice for its human rights abuses or to hold it accountable for such crimes. What is this? Is it not that there exists a government within the government in the United Sates? That secret government must be asked as to who made the attacks.”

General Hamid Gul

This statement was made September 24, 2001.

There are no further statements from Osama bin Laden.

This transcript is officially certified by the Central Intelligence Agency.

By what information we have, from the CIA, from Pakistan, from interviews with ISI Director General at the time, Major General Hamid Gul, the death of Osama bin Laden was the murder of a CIA agent by Presidential order so as to silence dissent and cover up what appears to be a conspiracy of sorts, as many now see 9/11.

 

MORE MURDER

Presidential Order

With bin Laden, a CIA operative, murdered through denial of needed medical care, at presidential order, who else was similarly murdered?

Minimally, we can consider all who died searching for, not just someone uninvolved in 9/11, but a decorated CIA operative, as a victim of an illegal cover operation meant to hide a criminal act.

Every soldier killed in Afghanistan, hunting the imaginary Al Qaeda or the long dead Osama bin Laden was murdered.

 

EVEN MORE MURDER

Pakistani television interviewed individuals who witnessed a helicopter crash killing its American crew and passengers at Abbottabad, a mission supposedly meant to credit President Obama with the killing of a long dead CIA agent.

The video has been suppressed, classified and removed from Youtube and the records of the TV network that held it.  However, Veterans Today has a full translated transcript of that video:

This is a screenshot from the interview you are reading

Anchor: Welcome back, Mohammad Bashir is a resident of Abboottabad’s Bilal Town. Muhammad Bashir might seem an ordinary guy but he is no ordinary guy.

Muhammad Bashir lives in front of Osama Ben Laden’s house in Bilal Town Abbottabad.

On 2nd of May, Muhammad Bashir was present on his rooftop from where he saw the whole American operation against Osama Ben Laden with his own eyes.

Yesterday when our team was present In Bilal Town, Abbottabad, near Osama Ben Laden’s hose, Muhammad Bashir came to us and said, “Sister, I need to tell you something, something that is a burden on my heart and soul”, just listen to what he said.

Bashir: I am going to share something about the Abbottabad operation which till this day nobody else has told you.

Anchor: But Muhammad Bashir was a little afraid too, while talking to me he telephoned his relative, Vice President of Jummat-e-Islami, Abdur Razzaq Abasi, watch it

Who Really Was There?

Reporter: Tell me your name and tell me whare do you live

Bashir: Let me first, Let me talk to him one minute, i will give you full interview, full or half?

Reporter: Full Full

Bashir: Let me first talk to him

Reporter: To whom? To Abbasi?

Bashir: yes, to Abbasi

Anchor: Muhammad Bashir told us something that no one said before. So we checked his identity card, we also confirmed that he really lives there, we asked from the senior fellows about him. We were very astonished by his story just see and listen what he said.

Bashir: We were awake, not asleep, a helicopter came, some men came down from that, into that house, then that helicopter went away

Reporter: How many men?

Bashir: 10-12, then that helicopter took rounds of those rear hills, then he came bac…k and when he came bach, two more helicopters arrived, one from the west and other from the north, there was a blast in the first helicopter and it was on fire, we immediately came out, when we reached there, the helicopter was burning, then after about 20 minutes the army and police arrived, they pushed us back, now we are asking that if Osama was here then who took him to america because all those men that came in the helicopter died in the blast, now if Osama was in that helicopter he must have died and got burnt in that helicopter too, then how they took him? this is a question of serious concern. America claims they they killed him and picked him up. How they picked him up? This is what we are thinking

Pakistani Video Screenshot

Reporter: Was there only one helicopter?

Bashir? Yes the other that came flew away to Mansehra, there was only one that landed the men and came back to pick them but as he was picking them up, it blew away and caught fire.

Reporter: Then were in it when it blew?

Bashir: Yes They were.

Reporter: How you know?

Bashir: We saw it with our own eyes

Reporter: You saw dead man?

Bashir: Yes, dead men,

Reporter: How many?

Bashir: I couldnt count them because then the compound was on fire. The gate was open, we went in, the army and police hadnt arrived then, there were some people but they werent stopping them. The whole neighborhood has seen that but they are silent now.

Bashir: We saw the helicopter burning, we saw the dead bodies, then everything was removed and now there is nothing

The only unburned part of the helicopter

Reporter: How many dead bodies you saw?

Bashir: We couldn’t count them because they were blown into pieces.

The reporter asked Bashir to narrate the story again.

Bashir said we could see the faces of those men but they were speaking pashto. I dont know whether they were Pakistani or American army or people of agencies, as you know that agency people can speak many languages.

May be they were speaking Pashto so that we consider them Pakistani.

They knocked and banged at our doors and told us not to come out.

I laid down on my rooftop and was watching them.

My kids were calling me, I told them to go to their rooms and let me check whats going on.

The reporter asks Bashir, that when he saw that the helicopter was American what was he thinking then?

Bashir said that he got afraid. He didn’t had in his mind that they will attack that house. He thought that they might have come to attack the Pakistan Army.

The reporter asked so when was your cousin Shamraiz taken away?

Bashir: Shamrez was at our home, as the helicopter exploded, me and many others went out of our homes to see what happened. Shamrez also came out and the gate of the compound was open, we went in, every thing was lying scattered, as it is a huge compound, some body parts were lying here, some there, legs, arms, heads, broken and torn body parts, during that time some part of the helicopter inside, may be the engine or other fuel related part had an explosion so we rushed out. During that time Shamrez was taken away, he is in his home now, but no one is allowed to meet him and i couldn’t get a chance to talk to him later.

Then the anchor says that they had vegetations inside the compound and Shamrez was their gardener. We know that two men Arshad and Tariq used to live there. They had good relations with the neighbours, they used to buy things from the local store. Sometimes imported dates and used to send many things to their neighbours.

Burned helicopter wreckage

Then the reporter is at Abdullah Ben Zubair Mosque, which is the nearest to compound of Osama.

She asks a guy: do you think people would have been glad and happy if they would have ever met osama?

The guy : Yes, possibly. Because he was a muslim and he believed in God.

This is the whole story! Every aspect and point translated.

The gentleman being interviewed lives across from the compound. His cousin Sahab Jamrez Khan used to grow vegetables in the compound. He was taken away in all the hullabaloo on tape @10.29 Bashir says he did not see when they wisked his cousin away.

Interviewer asks “Have you spoken to your cousin?”

Bashir “No, I have not seen him yet he in in the house. “They will not let him get out” “They will not let me get in.”

2 other men Arshad Sahib and Tariq Sahib used to go to market to shop for that compound and bought international brand items. Dates, dried meat found in compound. Also food used to come from compound to Bashir’s house Kabulu Pilau and things like that used to be presented to Bashir. They will follow up with more information. In the end the lady is standing in front of Abdullah Bin Zubair mosque. The mosque was with in walking distance of the compound. She asks people if Osama did attend this mosque people would have be happy? The one answered maybe. The other said Osama did “not” live here but he was muslim and believed in God. Interview ends.

Another thing to note is that Bashir mentioned that we are very “sharif” meaning law abiding honest people. His town was a peaceful place no excitement no murders, fights, and he is unhappy how they have made his town so frightful with all this news. One thing is very clear in this video. Two helicopters hovered never landed. One landed dropped Pashto speaking poeple on the roof 10-12 of them Helicopter left fo 20 minutes returned to load people in and small blast engine failure fire helicopter parts all over. Body parts arms, legs, head, all over. Pakistani Army/Police came in dispersed crowd. The whole scene is cleaned up totally now. No evidence left to examine.

This is the Official Media Version – One that has gone through several stages of evolution

Several days later, an “official” helicopter crash happened to account for the deaths of those who died on the staged phony bin Laden killing, victims of poor planning and a helicopter pilot who flew into a wall when his night vision goggles were disabled by light sources on the ground.  I’ve been to this dance once or twice before.

From a Veterans Today story, August 6, 2011:

Today 31 NATO troops, 20 of them Navy Seals from the Osama bin Laden operation died in what is reported as a helicopter crash in Afghanistan. 

The chances of this story being true is almost nil.  The chances of this being a staged coverup is over 80%.  We believe these people were murdered to silence them.  This is why.

We have solid information on two areas:

  1. Osama bin Laden died in 2001 as an active CIA employee and his body was recovered in Afghanistan and taken to “the sand box.”  We were told it was frozen.  We have so much verification from this, CIA, ISI, US military and top officials.  I have a direct confirmation from Bin Laden’s CIA handler who I grilled mercilessly on this.
  2. The Abbottabad operation involved numerous American deaths, witnessed, bodies all over, a helicopter crash. (suppressed translated TV interview below) (now classified and “missing”)  These bodies were recovered by land vehicle from Islamabad and there was NO “successful” bin Laden operation of any kind.  There was and has been a CIA safe house in Abbotabad where terror suspects were stored for years.

Depleted Uranium Ammunition

How do we count murders?  Was bin Laden a murder?  Were the 3000 on 9/11 murdered and, if so, by whom?

Were all killed in the War on Terror, nearly 1.4 million dead, murder victims including some found to have died of radiation sickness, not from Depleted Uranium but from the illegal use of nuclear weapons by US forces.

That story including a BBC report and interview transcripts is available here.

Do we include the terrorist deaths in Pakistan, now numbering over 30,000 or their 8500 military dead as murders tied to 9/11?

Then we have the planes though no part, be it black box, engine, wing component or even cocktail napkin survived 9/11.  Every piece of evidence was systematically destroyed immediately in direct contravention of law.

Do you now wonder why a man dead for a decade was thrown into the sea or why Navy Seals were piled onto a National Guard helicopter for the first time in history and then conveniently plowed into the side of a mountain?

When and if you vote, realize you will be voting for people who chose silence or to be silenced over so many deaths, so many crimes, crimes and deaths so obvious, so  easy to prove. Choose carefully.

 

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31 Comments for “Bush Knew Bin Laden Murdered in 2001”

  1. These collateral theories are always intriguing, but all the personal testimonials in the World cant overcome the political narrative that has been brainwashed by the politicans and media since 911. On the concept that the most unbelieveable in politics is likely the true story, then yes. But like the Kennedy murders they were able to execute the perfect cover. Its hard to get your brain around the idea that American leaders could be complicit in the cold blooded murder of their citizens on American soil to achieve a political end. If true then we have those running this Country who are as bad or worse than Hitler and Stalin. They are the true psychopaths of our era, not make believe like we see on TV.

  2. @ Doc Bailey.

    Please refer to the information @ http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/biowar.html which lists the US involvement in human experiments and the one in particular where the government sanctioned the spraying of bio material over California in the 1950s.The list is quite long and is indeed an eye opener for any person who thinks the US govt has the best interests of the public at the fore front.

  3. yea, it still doesn’t stop abuse from a disengaged electorate. Look what they are ignoring now to do what they do. What makes you think they will care to follow your prescription?

  4. I really do hate being a wet blanket but the problems we are striving to overcome have been with us from the beginning, if not before.

    Please do not dismiss me as some sort of radical kook. I am a 78 year old retired businessman who has been studying the CONstitution for over forty years. I am a 14 year military combat vet with service in both Korea and Vietnam. I got out in 1966 because I had determined I was fighting on the wrong side in the U.S. Military. Please convince me what I present below is erroneous.

    Why Freedom Always Fails

    Why the political design of free states, purporting to establish Freedom for the common man and to establish his control of the government, always fails and how to prevent such failure in the future.

    The government controlled schools continually indoctrinate children to believe that the Constitution of the United States was created to establish and protect Freedom for the common man, and to provide for perpetual control of the government by such common man.

    We are continually indoctrinated to believe that there was not and would never be a division of political classes in the United States, no designated aristocratic governing class and no designated subservient commoner class.

    However, a careful study of the wording of the Constitution and of the Nature of man, including an acknowledgment of the propensity of those accustomed to being in power to manipulate conditions to insure that they remain in power, will shed some considerable doubt as to the actual intentions of the Aristocratic Founders who created the Constitution – in a meeting room with doors locked to exclude any commoner observation of the proceedings, purportedly the intended purpose being the creating of a governing document that would establish political equality, with no political classes or hierarchy – LOL!

    Justification for such doubt is further evidenced in the establishment of the people of the United States in the Preamble as the specifically designated beneficial class, and the creation of citizen of the United States in the First Article of the CONstitution, as the subservient commoner class, as is evidenced therein by the fact that there is no beneficial wording anywhere in the Preamble or in the CONstitution establishing that the citizen class is anything other than subservient, as is clearly inherent in the meaning of the word “citizen”!

    This is further evidenced by the rewording of the fifty amendments to the CONstitution proposed by the commoners, condensed and edited by the same Aristocrats who failed to include any such protections in the body of the original CONstitution.

    Please take note that the wording of the fifty amendments proposed by the commoners clearly indicates their intention that the rights set forth in those fifty proposed amendments were intended to apply to everyone, with none of those protections specifically designated as being limited in their applicable to any specifically designated political class.

    Please take note that in their rewording of the fifty amendments proposed by the commoners, that the aristocrats creatively reworded those amendments in such a way that the five most critically important protections were limited to apply only to the people of the United States; please take further notice that the word citizen is glaringly absent from any according of any protection in any of the ten amendments ratified by the Thirteen States.

    I contend that the evidence clearly indicates that the omission of the word “citizen” was an intentional surreptitious scheme of the aristocrat class to conceal the fact that the aristocrats had intentionally worded the proposed amendments in such a way that the five most critically important protections were limited in their application to the people of the United States (second part of 1-2-4-9-10) – to the exclusion of their application to the common citizen class! Pay attention to the actual words!!!

    In order to determine the True Nature of a writing it is advisable to look at and evaluate the writing itself rather than the claimed intent of the creators, or to take seriously their marvelous condescending self serving platitudes, designed to parry inquiry and bring ridicule down upon those who voice concern based on the actual wording of the creating documents rather than the supportive self-serving writings and speeches of the creators, who utilized used car salesman presentations to sell their self serving product, which separate explanations have no binding application or mitigation of the entrapping phraseology of their deviously worded creation.

    At the time the Constitution was being created and implemented there had been no prior example of an actual societal organization which had actually been under the control of the common population; therefore there was no sample or example upon which the commoners could compare the creation of the aristocrats.

    Yes, we have Plato’s Republic, and the Roman Republic, so called, where there was always a ruling class of elites and a subservient class of slaves, with those classified as citizens somewhere in between. And the Republic of Holland, which lasted about twenty minutes if measured against the sands of time; and then the Valutian Confederacy, which had such an insignificant historical impact that it is virtually impossible to find any mention of it anywhere, and I am not sure it even actually existed anywhere, other than as part of an Internet board game.

    Historically, in regard to the creation of the U.S. Constitution, the Creators thereof are reputed to have studied the writings of Plato, Thomas Moore, Thomas Hobbes, John Locke and Charles Montesquieu among others, to which the Founders referred, who purportedly became the Founder’s source and guiding inspiration for their creation of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, not withstanding that Montesquieu clearly stated that his republican example would not be applicable to a large population where a high percentage of the population would be widely disbursed, located so distantly from each other and the seat of government that it would be impossible for the government to properly manage such distance and diversity.

    My point in all this is that common men cannot entrust the creating of their governing documents to men accustomed to being in charge of the commoners – talk about putting the fox in charge of the hen house – lets get real here!!

    We are assured that the “chains of the constitution” protect the freedom of the common man – based on the historical evidence of the United States it is clear that those chains were intentionally made up of weak links.

    Where in the Constitution is there any phraseology that specifically sets forth with a mathematical certainty, the source and extent of the authority and power of the government created thereunder? Such explanation is totally absent!

    Without such a mathematically certain definition those men bent on domination will worm their way into positions of trust and authority as has been evidenced by the political shenanigans perpetrated on the common population of the United States sinee its inception over 200 years ago.

    The purpose of this essay is to bring all of the foregoing to the attention of the common population of the United States so they will understand the necessity of a state initiated Constitutional Convention –

    This is necessary because it is quite evident that the CONgress of the United States will never amend the CONstitution in such a way that it would strip the CONgress and the President of their ability to fleese and enslave the commoners of the United States.

    The Constitution of the United States must be amended to include a statement in the Preamble as follows:

    Nothing in the Constitution created hereunder shall ever be construed, no matter what emergency shall be contrived by power seeking scoundrels who have wormed their way into positions of high office, such as the presidency, or otherwise, to imbue the government created hereunder with any more authority or power, that the authority and/or power Naturally imbued into any one single individual man or woman!

    Additionally, the foregoing shall be understood to include, but not be limited to, the prohibition of the imposition of any form of taxation by any level of government in this Federation, for any purpose what-so-ever. Additionally, on the same terms, voting shall never ever be implemented where the outcome of the vote would be construed or intended to require the conformance of any man or woman who would otherwise object. That is, it shall never be construed in this Federation that voters can create authority by their increased numbers, that none of those voting were imbued with individually, by Nature!

    Additionally, no money may be expended from the treasury of any level of government in this Federation for the benefit of any individual or group thereof. This prohibition will be applicable to all levels of education, medical care and retirement funding and any and all similar socialistic measures.

    The population of this Federation shall be expected to provide for their own sustenance during the duration of their lifetime, however long or short such may be.

    And finally, no elected official shall ever receive any manner of retirement pay or health care after leaving office.

    The foregoing is the Fundamental, Basic, Natural Principle of Freedom and is forever inviolate, no matter what emergency may be concocted by anyone!

    • EwhoRU,
      Apparently, you also know what the outcome of the “Revolutionary War” really was. When I found out, I became sick to my stomach and almost woofed my cookies. Not that this is directly pertinent to Mr. Duff’s article, but I always say, it’s best to begin at the beginning to understand why things are as they are. And yes, you have to go back- at least -to the latter part of the 18th century to understand the big picture. Then, once we have shed ourselves of preconceived designer notions that pass for history, we can get down to the brass tacks of fighting for our God-given sovereignty.

    • EwhoRU,

      You asked for some convincing. Your proposed amendment (preamble) to the Constitution belies an understanding of monetary systems and an earlier knowledge how the young American colonies operated.

      BACKGROUND:
      The American colonies were prosperous (1727-1763) when they operated on self-created paper money (Colonial Scrip) before the enraged British bankers got Parliament to enforce a gold standard on us– (The Currency Act of 1764)–thereby impoverishing us within a year. This led to the American Revolution, not the Tea Party (a mere trigger).

      “Benjamin Franklin wrote of the British colonies in North America in the 1750s: “Nowhere on Earth does one find a happier and more well-being people.” He explained that this was due to that “we in the colonies make our own currency,” called “colonial scrip.” He further explained: “By issuing our own currency we can control its buying power, and we are not obliged to pay interest to anyone.” In these British colonies in New England, there was a wealth contrasting sharply to the poverty and misery in England. There was enough money, and it was definitely interest free. When the bankers in England heard Franklin’s speech to the British Parliament, they made sure that Parliament forbade the colonies to use their own financial system and instead demanded they use interest money in gold and silver. Only an insufficient amount of this money was to be available. The money supply was reduced in half, and the colonies were forced to borrow money from the Bank of England. The result was steep interest and price increases. Within a year the streets were full of unemployed people.”

      Links to this background:

      A brief History of Banking Control in the United States
      http://www.jimbernard.org/gpage16.html Page
      Also here:
      http://coburns.biz/index.php/2009/01/02/the-american-revolution/188#axzz1kt80TpVJ

      America Created It’s Own Money In 1750
      How Benjamin Franklin Made New England Prosperous
      By Congressman Charles G. Binderup
      Copyright © 1941
      http://www.rense.com/general66/nobeyb.htm

      Benjamin Franklin’s writings here:
      http://www.historycarper.com/resources/header.htm

      TODAY
      We are not not the gold standard now, thankfully. The US dollar is a non-convertible currency (not convertible to any metal or anything else..thankfully). We are a sovereign currency–which means we control our own destiny, unlike Greece and Spain etc who gave up theirs–and the world’s reserve currency. The unfortunate thing since we went off the gold standard in 1971/1972 is that (1) most people mourn for a metal that crippled them–it caused the 90% tax rates in the 1950s, for example, and (2) have zero comprehension of how it functions operationally: the Federal government is a currency issuer, the 50 states, businesses, households, and all individuals are currency users. The latter group (50 states, businesses, households, and all individuals) cannot create money to pay their bills and must balance their budgets and bank accounts. The former (Federal government) creates money by spending. Any edict that the Federal government must ‘balance its books the way a business must’ indicates gross ignorance and misunderstanding on the part of the statement issuer.

      In your proposed preamble, you seek to eliminate taxes and deny Americans of any social benefits from their self-created currency, which we the people are entitled to define, no different than what Franklin did 300 years ago. The problem with your proposal is that (1) taxes do not create revenue when you have a non-convertible currency such as ours, and (2) the purpose of taxes is to establish the use of the currency (initially), control inflation, and regulate spending (fire up or cool down the economy). They are a fiscal policy consideration. Government spending has absolutely nothing to do with the amount of taxes collected. Not operationally they don’t. (If you don’t believe me, call the various Feds around the country and ask questions. I did. The government does not call the IRS to find out how much money is in the kitty; it’s immaterial.)

      Here is a book that can explain it better than I can, and it will show, monetarily, why your proposed preamble (above) to ensure the impoverishment of the people of this country is misguided:
      The 7 Deadly Innocent Frauds of Economic Policy
      http://moslereconomics.com/wp-content/powerpoints/7DIF.pdf

  5. Following the typical GD revelations, it’s started to make me wonder why the general public has not picked up on this stuff yet. You’d think the “truth” would be enough of a dead weight to impact matters, but so far we seem to be spinning our tires. We hear so frequently about leaks, why can’t our truths leak into the general public? There are people who still insist Mo Atta and his merry band not only were responsible for the precipitating event in the 911 fiasco, but were all sacrificed for the cause. If a person were to allow himself to look deeply into the destruction of Bldg. 11, it would seem that would be the catalyzing event that would inspire each lucid American to want to dig far deeper. Aye, just another tribute to the forces of evil that seem to squash and sequester a zillion facts about the defining event of the war on terror. How stupid can Rush Limbore be to still be buying into the standard, government issue
    lies? Why can’t we tip him over with a far better version of the truth? Is he complicit with the neocon mentality?

    • He knows and he keeps quiet, like a good boy!

      • Yea, not to mention he loves cashing those big fat paychecks he gets for keeping the dems vs repubs wars going.

        Most americans will never wake up, they’re way to lazy and would rather be spoon fed by the MSM as opposed to actually questioning anything.

        As a side note,

        I’m not convinced that pic is OBL (the one above showing Tim Osmon and Brzezinski). I thought OBL was like 6’4″.

        Michael

      • Also, most sheep can’t put their arms around the fact that MSM is all tied in with TPTB. They feel there are checks and balances there, and all of us come from looney ville cause they don’t stop long enough to look at the facts. This one debate site, I’ve put all gordon’s stuff out there, I’ve individually linked the fox news 2002 announcement, the Israel 2001 announcement and pleaded with them to <"C the truth, or believe a lie!" They all think I'm nuts!

  6. I’m not convinced the man hanged in Iraq was actually Saddam. It occurred to me recently that he may have been killed at the airport. General Al-Ham Dani confirmed to Russia Today that he was present there. Either that, or the Dora Farms strike.

  7. Gordon,

    thanks for this heavily documented and sharply formulated article. This is shurely one of the biggest lie story ever told and the truth needs to come out. For for me it’s interesting, how simply all this mind manipulation can work on a global scale, if the traitors can be shure of having all the media on their side. At the the end, this whole Bin Laden thing was nothing more than a well orchestrated cover up to start an endless series of wars and to induce fear and hate into a whole world population.

    I wish, we had this kind of truthful journalism here in my country, but time will tell…

    We’ll never give up!

  8. This Country has been a safe-house for the best of the worst mind-f****ers.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f8n9wDioD8&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIWR9pGy-3U&feature=related
    and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwvKhloXud8&feature=related. Excellent educational vids.

    Common Purpose = Tavistock.

    Here in the states they’ve taken other names than Common Purpose; but the agenda is exactly the same. So are their methods of infiltrating, imo.

    I came upon above lectures by Brian Gerrish apprx. 3 years ago. He’s from Britain, retired Navy Col. This man helped me gain calm I seemed to be loosing fast. He taught me quite a bit. Data I needed to know, to help me put things together concerning all the rage, shame & blame that way too many are expressing toward Americans (the “masses”) today.

    As civilian, dealing with the most insidious forms of attacks here on the Home-front, I saw in mid to late 80′s things changing at quickening pace. Schools spitting out numbers of illiterate & angry (enraged) young adults. Unsociable attitudes being force-fed us via all the media channels. TV shows, cartoons teaching the young how to be savages, uncaring, deceitful & how to get away with it. Plus how being nasty to others rather than civil would get them to enviable heights in the corporate world faster. (all BS!) This subtle growing (festering) undercurrent took seed, gradually pushing up from under the soil. It’s in full Rats-Ugly bloom right now.

    None of where we’re at now is a surprise to me. The main focus of the ruling despots has been about “en-training” our mental faculties. (or is that scrambling our mental faculties?) This agenda has steadily grown more stealthy, more technically advanced over time. It’s not just chemtrails, GMO’s, fluoride, drugs, chips, vaccines, miniaturized (now) energy weapons.

    The links above connect to lectures covering another form of attacks, and is a massive problem I don’t hear many talking about amongst each other over here in the states. I know that when something sinister like this moves into & thru Britain it shows up here in states soon after. As I wrote above, it’s been seeded here for quite some time before it finally matured to what it is today.

    I saw NLP (neural linguistic programming) under-handedly used on the young adults in NYC Occupy not long ago. I was watching a short clip of a group of Occupiers attending some type of training session in one of the buildings near the park. Knew what to look for after watching Mr. Gerrish’s video lectures. Sure enough… they were using it on the NYC Occupiers. The training was about keeping low-keyed if something happens during protesting. To remain in control– but it was more sinster than that.

    Wishing the best for all…

  9. Angus, your mention of Darlene Kinsey reminds me—can the Smatt brothers link to the Bush family she exposed bedredged from the FBI files? The corruption back then was breathtaking. I never had a chance to get Danny Casolaro as a guest, but Riconosciutto was on a couple of times. As was your buddy Al Martin.
    Brad Ayers helped me a lot after Darlene told her story; and I still have transcripts of the show when the Pegasus guy came on while Fletcher Prouty stayed on the line. I never had to fear since I never had first hand testimony that could nail the crooks; I think what is said over the air is considered “hearsay.”

  10. Angus, I can only assume that you are an old fart like me and we share an “adopted son.” That said, I can chip in a little, having known Ted G. for many years and sharing a lot of face time talking up much of what he had first hand stuff about. I considered John de Kamp a friend, and only hope me might still be alive and holed up in that bar he owns in Nebraska. If anyone knows for sure John is still kicking; I would like to know. Hell I thot our mutual “adopted punk” was dead for about 10 years; he aint. Only thing anyone can say negative about Ted G. is he had a weakness for certain wimmin that got him into a little hot water, But he was not a sell out to the cause or turncoat jerk like the S.O.B. who is now undeserving of his “Martyrdom” in the patriot movement, you named him somewhere above, and I always had trouble with his name. Your mention of Rewald takes me back a long, long way.I always wondered how such a soft speaker could have worked his way up so high in the agencies.

  11. Charlotte NC Bill

    These people have short attention spans…If you can get away with something in America for 10 yrs (9-11) then you got away with it…”Gotta get the wife something for Valentines Day….baseball spring training,..somebody please buy the Dodgers…spring break….look we’re all goin’ to the beach…hey, footbal pre-season and hey is it Labor Day yet? ” Don’t mean to be a wise-ass ( too late ) but how much progress have we really made on the truth front? Because, before you know it we’ll be watching the World Series and the average non-thinking American will have to face the mind-bending decision of voting for Romney or Obama….I’ll vote 3rd party-as if it matters bc WW III is scheduled to start sometime around Purim according to Leon Panetta…

  12. The numbers DO add up, in the end. Thanks, Gordon and Co. It’s all falling into place, as fast as a downed helicopter. Don’t know whether to cry or cry harder.

  13. Wow Angus, what is/was your take on Gunderson? I’ve seen all of his debriefings on MK-Ultra victims, etc. I’d be really pissed if he wasn’t legit. I believe he was station chief in L.A. at one time, so the Osmon connect would make sense.

    • Angus Alexander MacLeod

      Always a pleasure, dn. First off, understand that I, myself, have been called an agent more than once in print by people who knew better, and one of the Illumminati, no less, by shit-for-brains “Uncle Miltie” William Cooper. That disclosed, I have to say I’ve tried my damnedest to become much more circumspect about such things in my “happy golden years” after shooting my mouth off a few times too often in my callow youth…
      Yes, Ted WAS SAIC in LA for a number of years, and has a most impressive CV readily available on the Net. I came here neither to praise or bury him, but will convey briefly what I either know or have heard from reliable sources. Once I do, you will understand better just WHY I was so stunned to see the rock-solid reference to his and “Tim Osman’s” meetings during the exact same time frame I was there. As most “cognoscenti” are well aware, TG pretty much led the charge on the McMartin Pre-school investigations as well as the Col. Aquino/Project Monarch Satanistic crap at the SF Presidio — and bless him for it. I was down in Florida back in the early 90s working on the Noriega trial and a few other major matters (including a bio of GHWB — “The Immaculate Deception.”)

      Had one helluva network back then of “scribblers,” disgruntled vets and “ex”-spooks filling my head and phone bill with all manner of revelations and fanciful tales, (you might recognize many of them, including a guy right here on VT’s staff who sent me to Baghdad on less than a week’s notice — ‘nother story for another time). One of these trusted sources warned me back then ’91/’92 that TG was a “sleeper” running “counter” operations cleaning up the mess after too many disclosures, particularly re: GHWB’s proclivity for youngsters (front-page story in the Sydney (AUS) Times back then). I had established fairly good contact with Sen. John DeCamp’s office in NB who was leading that charge on that entire miasma, as mentioned above, and apparently why I (supposedly) tracked on TG’s radar. My source insisted also that TG’s “crew” were “eliminating” anyone with first-hand “dirt” back then ahead of the ’92 elections, and some youngsters in the “trade” DID bite the dust. I already told you elsewhere about Al Martin & friends bailing out of Miami and elsewhere during the same time frame. Ask Al, he’ll verify that…
      I was deeply involved in much of the same investigations Danny Casolaro (Inslaw/Promise/Octopus) had underway during this same time, and my good friend, the aforementioned Bill McCoy in DC, was the one who called and told me about Casolaro’s death in a WVa bathtub. I brought my gf back to the “Left Coast” for saferkeeping after learning from a longtime Agency “wetwork” specialist friend that another one of these Inslaw “ringers,” Robert Booth Nichols, (whom many suspect of DC’s killing) was in Miami snooping around re: yours truly. As I’ve also written before, the poor bastard with my company’s name (Paragon), an Israeli, I believe, named Arik Afek, ended up stuffed in a car trunk at the Miami Airport.
      As you can see, I took all this fairly seriously at the time, esp. after another FBI CI — CN “Darlene Kinsey” and good friend of Bradley Ayres of Bay of Pigs fame) called to warn me of the same re: TG. Her own father ended up dead that same night at his home in Baltimore. Ask Tom V. about THAT one — he had her on his RFA program that same night…
      When I went back to “work” out here, I ended up having dinner with another “spook” and activist in Vegas one night, and Ted and his ladyfriend sat down with us for about a half-hour. I’d noticed him eyeballing me intently earlier at the event, and he took every opp he had to wrangle my name out of me at dinner. I had several I used at the time, and my friends blew him off as well. Since then, I have seen many of his videos and read articles, and have wanted to believe he was on the side of good and right — UNTIL I saw Grabbe’s DETAILED references to Ted’s numerous meetings with “Osman” in LA.
      That’s it in a big nutshell, dn. Like I wrote earlier, I have wished like hell ever since that time that I had followed up on all of it, but I was stretched past the limit in those days. One thing you and I BOTH know is that there are plenty of “counter” types running around out there. Hell, given all the Agency tracks all over BHO’s past — mother’s work with USAID, (alleged) father’s with Agency’s Africa programs, grandmothers’ at Ron Rewald’s bank in HI, for Chrissakes! — the same could easily be said (and proven) about him…
      Cooper, I KNOW first-hand, up-close and personal — was utterly full of mierde and a certified piece of vertical sewage. Ted, on the other hand, remains an enigma — and he won’t be talkin’ anymore. But maybe someone else who knows more than me will be…

    • Angus Alexander MacLeod

      dn — I wrote you a lengthy (and illuminating) reply, but it didn’t get posted immediately, so I’ll see if it passes “review” and then re-post tomorrow (I hope) if need be. Bottom line, tho’, is that despite all contra-indications, the jury’s still out on TG as far as I’m concerned… I’ll hope my original gets posted — never was that great a typist…

  14. Angus Alexander MacLeod

    P.S. As far as the “vote”: That SF LTC referred to above used to inspire his listeners/sycophants by telling them “We have one more hill to take — Capitol Hill — and not with bullets, but with ballots.” I still pretty much say the same, but have grown increasingly disgusted and cynical about the entire utterly bought-off process, esp. with this current parade of clowns. I worked damn hard 20 years ago to get Sr. Perot in the race — and keep him in after the Scott Barnes (BOHICA) debacle. If Dr. Paul cannot prevail this time around in a severely uphill battle, I seriously doubt the latter option will ever be viable again…

    • I am in the habit of reading/studying an article and typing my unfiltered gut response. Perhaps I need to start “checking out” the comments section first. Sir MacLeod, you brought “alot of goodies” to this table. Great contribution.

      • Angus Alexander MacLeod

        I sincerely appreciate the compliment, Latney, but whatever I’ve contributed is due entirely to the level of genuine inspiration I have received from the ongoing superlative work of Gordon & Co., along with you readers’ own comments. I tried my damnedest to do the same until about 15 years ago, as I indicated above, but after all the losses endured (including at least a couple that were supposed to have been me) I remained “under the leaves” far too long, believing the vast majority of Americans didn’t give a damn, or even preferred this headlong march to “football fascism.” Each of you have given me genuine hope for the very first time in more than a decade, and I lack the words to express my gratitude…

        I will continue to contribute what I can, but since VT is doing “the Lord’s work” (as Mr. V. would put it) so damn well, what I WILL try to do here in the comments section is outline my own thoughts for a genuine, viable “battle plan,” if you will. None of us have any doubt it really HAS come to that, and the sooner we formulate a serious, workable approach to “recovery” of our freedoms, the more likely our “snowball’s chance in Hell” possibilities may yet be converted into a giant snowball rolling downhill, crushing the cockroaches, piranhas, and remoras infesting and sucking the lifeblood out of our body politic. In years past, I would only have considered such discussions in quiet backrooms, but much prefer this right out in the open. I want all the bastards to know we’re comin’ — and we are legion…

  15. Angus Alexander MacLeod

    Mr. D. —
    Heartfelt thanks yet again for “fleshing out”/confirming suspicions and other indications so many of us have had for at least 10 years now. One of my preferred news sources before (thankfully) discovering VT ( I actually thought you were a VA-type newsletter when I’d earlier come across fleeting references) was Orlin Grabbe’s Kalliste site until he passed away prematurely a few years ago. As one who has investigated, studied, written and spoken about numerous Agency depredations in years past, this latest all but puts the last nail in the coffin of the entire OBL-Terrorist myth — and all that has followed in its train.

    In the mid-90s I had just completed the last book and documentary video to help keep a former SF LTC out of federal prison, was working in LA on another major investigation (or three) and had occasion to rub shoulders with “former” FBI SAIC Ted Gunderson during a Preparedness Expo in Vegas. I had already been warned that Gunderson was actually still performing COINTELPRO-type work for the Agency and/or Bureau, and that my own name had surfaced on his (alleged) hit list as a result of detailed inquiries I had put to the DeCamp investigations underway in Nebraska vis-a-vis that entire Larry King/pedophilia miasma. All water under the bridge at this point, but I was struck deeply by a detailed reference I came across in some of Grabbe’s articles just a few years later (circa ’98) re: the Charles Hayes/Angel of Death, Norman/Forbes Mag disclosures about Hillary C.’s and V. Foster’s covert intel/weapons transactions via Systematics and other front companies with ISRAEL, among others.

    What literally leaped off the page back then, well before 2001, was Grabbe’s references to “Tim Osman’s” (AKA OBL) meetings with Gunderson primarily in Westwood, CA, apparently concerning wepons transactions for the mujahadeen — at a particular hotel where I frequently held “quiet” meetings myself with sources, within walking distance of my office in the “hood.” Grabbe and Gunderson are both dead now, and Hayes and his “Fifth Column” of “former” Agency hackers are probably deceased and/or surely scattered to the winds. I have always wished I had tracked this lead to its end way back then, but I had already used up whatever good karma I’d accrued in life, too many of my compatriots had already fallen, and I figured for too many years since, “Why bother? Who out there really gives a shit, anyway?”

    Take this little nugget for whatever it may be worth. I probably still have a few more of interest. This particular one can probably even be independently confirmed by ransacking Grabbe’s archives. His 50-part series on Hayes/Colby and so many others was a treasure trove and I still have all of it on disc somewhere. Like you folks, he headquartered in his last years in CentAm and Qatar, I believe, but even THAT didn’t save him from a premature demise. I quit giving a damn about that awhile ago, myself, but am the furthest thing from suicidal, just UTTERLY committed to doing all I possibly can to help bring down “The Cabal” — in my own lifetime, God willing…

    Again, I offer you my deepest heartfelt thanks for re-inspiring me, and ALL that you folks do to offer us that “Last Chance.” Godspeed, brother…

    • have friends who worked in cointelpro

      how do you explain…when they are your friends and still don’t get it

      may never get it

      • Angus Alexander MacLeod

        Well, as you know probably better than I, the indoctrination for those types goes real deep, and –let’s face it, G. — they all have one helluva invested in the status quo, esp. facing the onslaught of all the “unwashed masses” daring to question authority EFFECTIVELY and upset the apple cart. There are plenty of genuine “converts” to the truth from the realm of spookery — praise Allah (that’s a joke!) — and millions of other accomplished and bright people out there that I gave up long ago trying to wake up the “suits.” But I admire you for trying, G. Given your background, it must be frustrating as hell… Like one of your readers wrote elsewhere, I’m more than happy to let God sort them out “when the dust settles…”

        • Angus,

          Your posts are bringing a lot back to me. Last time I saw, and hung out with, Orlin Grabbe was in Costa Rica, 1998 or 1999, and he looked healthy and happy. It was just after he moved from Reno to San Juan, he had a new house, and was trying to set up his digital cash program among other things. (I am just an ordinary person. No spook background.) But I read Kalliste religiously for years and copied his entire website numerous times: 3,000 to 4,000 pages. When 9/11 happened and I watched Ehud Barak declaring the ‘global war on terror’ on the BBC before the first tower went down–found that video–I thought who the hell is he to be directing US operations, and then the remarkable hour the BBC gave Richard Perle and Ehud Barak later at around 10:30 PM GMT (9.11.2001)–have this video too–to declare bin Laden the mastermind, all those Grabbe posts about Tim Osman came back to me, including the photos Grabbe had of a young western-dressed bin Laden.

          Could Charles Hayes still be in jail? I know Grabbe traveled to see Wanta in jail in Wisconsin a couple of times; Wanta could confirm. The series Grabbe did on Wanta, starting circa 1995, was illuminating too. So much was happening behind the scenes those days while the world occupied itself with Clinton’s peccadilloes. That’s why I paid attention to the background; as I said, I’m just an ordinary shmuck with zero background in the businesses you guys were involved with.

          I did this because Danny Casolaro’s death was the tip-off to me, a monster red flag: that and the fact that I worked at the company that produced PROMIS, that *really* created PROMIS for the Justice Dept. although it was delivered to William WhateverHisNameWas under one of our subsidiary’s names in DC. We designed and complied the program. The trash bins were full of PROMIS work every night, huge masses of green and white striped output paper. I could never understand the number of Israelis who worked there–we had lots of Orthodox Jews from Williamsburg and Brooklyn–or why they would take the garbage home, which I witnessed time and again at 8 PM, or later, after the offices were closed (I worked late on personal projects because it was cheaper to use the company’s air-conditioning than crank up my own…all this was happenstance). There were times when I was in the elevator with these guys, saw the PROMIS header on the stack, and marveled that they were so dedicated to their work. We were a boutique custom operating system company that produced defense and aviation/transportation custom work for the Shah (before 1979) , the IRS (I can tell you from experience that the IRS code is written as if each sentence in a paragraph is a different language because of their paranoia at letting you see the entire thing and therefore write intelligent call routines, the lead guy who worked on it told me it would take all the people in the State of Pennsylvania five years to rewrite the code to something sensible), the Defense Department, the Justice Dept….you name it. The work on PROMIS was never done in DC…and I remember that project because it irked me that they didn’t spell it correctly and put an E at the end of the name. I thought it too cute by far. Odd what cements memories.

          • Angus Alexander MacLeod

            Pall, I just popped in here for a moment to check for replies after just now e-mailing my old friend Mr. V. re: his comments below. Your observations are intriguing and appreciated, sir. Amazing what shakes loose from the noggin given the proper “lateral adjustment.” I’m still trying to remember the Smatt Bros Tom refers to below, as well. Definitely very sobering times then, for certain, and how I wish we had had these these “tools” available to us back then. I really must collapse now, but we will will remain in touch. So many of these articles are so damn good, I cannot help but add at least my two cents whenever I feel it may be useful. Thanks for adding your $2 worth, friend…

  16. Correct, the only thing buried at sea was the truth.

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