California – Orange County Deputy Murders Marine
Unarmed “Perfect Marine,” Nursing Student Gunned Down by Rogue, Racist Cops from Right Wing Community
“They would take their Bibles and walk around the track in the morning,” Cox said. He said Loggins’ wife usually accompanied them but is pregnant and was unable to go. “She’s just so pregnant now, she stopped going,” (Major) Cox said. Cox said Loggins volunteered with a Big Brothers group and at nursing homes, and was close to earning a bachelor’s degree in nursing…
Gordon Duff, Senior Editor
Police officials reported that Marine Sergeant Manuel Loggins Jr. was shot by one or more of 4 officers while unarmed, returning to his vehicle. The reason deputies give is that they felt threatened when a single unarmed man approached a car.
His small children watched in horror as their father was brutally murdered.
Marines at Camp Pendleton have other questions. “Will the officers involved get the lethal injection they have earned or will this be covered up like so many other crimes against Marines.”
Loggins was finishing his nursing degree and was a regular volunteer at nursing homes and a big brother volunteer. His 14 year record in the Marine Corps was spotless, continual “good conduct medals,” top proficiency and conduct and awards for achievement.
From Christopher Goffard of the Los Angeles Times:
Amormino (police spokesman who debriefed the officers) said he did not know why the deputy felt threatened, or how many shots were fired, or whether Loggins was armed.
Marine sources said Loggins was not in possession of a weapon.
Loggins was taken to Mission Hospital, where he died. Major Christopher Cox said Loggins had been scheduled to work at 7:30 that morning at the base, where he managed the in-bound and out-bound cargo. Cox, who was Loggins’ supervisor, said the 31-year-old Marine was a devout Christian who often took his daughters to the San Clemente High track for what he called “prayer walks.”
“They would take their Bibles and walk around the track in the morning,” Cox said. He said Loggins’ wife usually accompanied them but is pregnant and was unable to go. “She’s just so pregnant now, she stopped going,” Cox said. Cox said Loggins volunteered with a Big Brothers group and at nursing homes, and was close to earning a bachelor’s degree in nursing.
“He was a mentor, somewhat of a father figure, to a number of the Marines,” Cox said. “He was very soft-spoken, very nonconfrontational — very, very respectful. He was just the epitome of respect.”. Cox said he and other Marines were trying to make sense of the shooting and were frustrated with the lack of information.
“I’ve got some Marines that are very upset,” he said.
The deputy who shot him was placed on administrative leave, which is routine. His name has not been released.
Loggins has no history of mental treatment, is not a combat vet but rather supervises freight loading for the corps and was soon to be available for officers candidate school and a full commission.
As for police officers, unnamed, untested, we know nothing. All we know is that an officer “lost it” and murdered a Marine, an act of panic, seeing a black man get too close to a very expensive vehicle in an area where racial tensions run high and police are traditionally not answerable for actions against minorities.
The many thousands of Marines in Camp Pendleton, one of the largest military bases in the world, where Loggins was headquartered, have a long history of issues with Orange County, a community that deeply resents its Marine population. During the Vietnam War, it was not uncommon for Orange County residents to throw cans and bottles out their car windows and shout insults and uniformed Marines soon to deploy to Vietnam.
World War II vets talked about it, I saw it myself and was a victim more than once.
Thus, a murdered Marine and a cop with an unlikely story is equally unlikely to bring about any real investigation. “Marine shot for trying to protect his daughters.” This is where this is going, it was Loggins who had reason to be afraid, not for himself but for his family. Loggins has an impeccable repuation as police knew, their computers told them that in 5 seconds.
Loggins has no computer to tell him about local police, long known for their affiliation with drug gangs.
That was considered a reason to use deadly force on an unarmed hero. This is an old story, too often involving veterans, inexperienced police or as in this case, in Orange County, a very “non white unfriendly” region.
Loggins was at a school track with his two daughters who witnessed the killing. He goes there with them every morning for bible reading sessions.
Police claim he disobeyed their orders.
Police have told two stories, one that they had chased the SUV and it “broke through a locked fence,” one that has been open every other day as required. That version has Loggins outside his SUV and refusing police orders.
The second version police have given says that a patrol car pulled behind the high priced Yukon SUV containing Loggins and his two daughters. It all gets very sketchy from then on, police “orders” not heard, not obeyed and, more appropriately, no evidence of “probable cause” for police to have approached the hero Marine with a long record of public service, a continual community volunteer and excellent citizen.
Loggins bullet riddled body was checked, no drugs or alcohol. All that was found were two terrified children and a blood soaked bible. There were no weapons on Loggins, none seen, none in the car.
No one searched police for drugs, no one tested them for drugs or alcohol, nobody got to interview their families, their names weren’t even released.
The police involved remain unnamed, untested and their reputations are secret. They may well have been both drunk or drugged, as is often the case on morning shifts, a touch of “meth” to take the edge off a morning, something likely to lead to panic and gunfire, in this case, cold blooded murder.
Typically, police “score” drugs off hookers who give them “freebie sex” and supply them with what they need to get through the day, uppers, downers, ecstacy, “oxy” or what is required. The reason you see this on TV, this kind of police behavior, working with drug gangs and prostitutes, is because discipline is almost non-existent in most departments. Drug tests are routinely falsified and special crews shake down small time dealers and get payoffs from larger ones.
This is one of those departments with Los Angeles being actually worse.
Fellow Marines and Loggin’s commanding officer find the police story inconsistent with the “picture perfect” Marine they know.
Normally, when 4 police come on an unarmed black man, he is usually tased, then kicked for awhile and arrested for “resisting arrest, drunk and disorderly, vagrancy and possession of whatever police have in the trunk of their vehicles for such an occasion.”
A typical crime in Orange County is DWB, called “driving while black.” In this case, however, the sober, fit Marine would obviously have made short work of the 4 deputies who saw the only option they had as using deadly force without reason.
One deputy, unnamed as usual, is on paid administrative leave.
He and others belong in cells.
Dashcam video of the incident has mysteriously disappeared as has CCTV from the school. Radio of the event has been withheld from the public also.
It is expected that Federal law enforcement officials will investigate this incident, technically a possible act of domestic terrorism and covered by provisions of the Patriot Acts and other exceptional regulations that overrule any of the usual police protections of “their own.”
Police involved have no right to counsel and may be interrogated in any country in the world, held indefinately, induced to confess and are subject to military tribunal.
We have a plane bound for Bulgaria on the tarmac at Ontario airport right now, ready to assure the freedom and safety of Americans and, on this rare occasion, protect Americans from a very real domestic terrorist organization.
Welcome to “our world!”
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60s/early 70s Marines may remember sign up at a bar (I won’t mention site)- no dogs or Marines allowed. I’m sure some former Marines will remember the looks of hate frequently shown when we ventured off Marine base. It was a time of hate directed to Marines (despite the suffering and craziness in Vietnam), and from what GD says, seems it still has not changed. The Marine had more in common with a Viet combatant than he did with the squeaky clean US citizens that profited off the bases but showed only contempt for young Marines (kids) and treated many of us like generic trash. I’m glad you (someone) mentioned this. Now I know I was not dreaming in 69-70.
Good old Orange County, showing up in a Marine uniform could get you picked up by police any day, World War II, Vietnam or today they just shoot you.
Back in San Clemente, on the northern edge of Camp Pendleton, if you left the safe confines of the USO, you were taking your life into your hands.
BTW, thanks to those who ran the San Clemente USO and for others, burn in hell you rotten SOBS.
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Thanks for this, Gordon. To add to the tragedy his family must endure, this article will probably be all the justice Sgt. Loggins will ever receive. As a former deputy myself, this is a sickening example of why I and so many other decent officers have left, unwilling to look the other way or “testilie” for their fellow “thugs with badges and guns.” Ever since the travesty inflicted on America by the “blue-ribbon” Warren Commission, all that “police investigation” has ever meant to me is yet another Cover-Up, pretty much without exception. I can only hope the Marine Corps with the help of the Feds dig through this and hang the guilty — preferably by their cojones. Otherwise, it will remain business-as-usual for these bastards.
Now that it is official, from the mouth of Big Sis Napolitano herself, and the FBI director, that American Veterans are the nation’s Number One Terror Suspects, I can also only hope that the widening Band of Brothers recognizes the targets they have become here at home, and take all appropriate action. I have little doubt citizen-respect ratings for law enforcement across the country are even lower than that of Congress — lower than whale manure. A Day of Reckoning IS coming…
this whole period was where I learned to distrust the govenment. Most of you posting here, see the US was on the wrong side of right, protest was in the air, we were going to change the world!. When it came time to discover the NWO and all it’s evil ramifications, all the idiocy I’d witnessed for the previous 40 yrs started making sense. Unlike most , who hate losing their illusions of reality, I greedily drank up the new info that revealed GW went to Iraq for the NWO, he did just what they wanted and he knows it. No need to apologize for it. I couldn’t see that before. He never worked for us and neither will Jeb Bush, so keep him away, please!!!!
Those poor children. Makes me sick.
Review your STATUTES AT LARGE in your state. Rules are there
Gordon, Please keep the story about this murder alive till justice is served. I live a few minutes north of Pendleton and can say that the anti Marine sentiment is no where near what you experienced here in the 70s. The issue here now is one that you have addressed in several previous articles — the establishment and entrainment of a totalitarian police state. I have watched the 0C sheriff’s department receive massive amounts of new equipment, a helicopter fleet, new cars, new motorcycles, new more paramilitary uniforms, and weapons with more killing power. There are now surveillance cameras mounted above street lights throughout the county. For what? Even worse is the attitude shift over the last twenty years from one of being a part of and a service to the community to one of being suspicious and separate. These guys act like they’ve been trained to hate and suspect every member of the public they are supposedly paid to serve. I would bet many have been trained in Israel. They are weapons out more often than not when approaching someone — or at least have a hand on their pistol. I have had a weapon aimed at me when I was stopped in a parking lot by one of these mind controlled stooges who told me after the fact that I resembled a “suspect”. Some of these “officers” beat a mentally retarded guy to death just a few months ago and the story DIED within days. I am sick at heart for Sgt. Loggins and his family. The truth of this story has to come out, whatever the price, or we will continue to see our communities overwhelmed by the cabal’s program for police force. N
several years ago this ” i suddenly felt threatened ” or other statements to that effect became very
very much in vogue as a cover for any incident across a whole range of any circumstances regardless
of context
can we get some photos of the front and front sides of his vehicle?, especialy where there would be
scratches and dents from driving thru a locked fence
photos of the gate ?
where is the broken gate lock ? or has that already been “prepped” ?
will the police report , hospital records and autopsy not match up? or will that be fixed?
is the er med staff being ” assisted” or intimidated/threatened in regards to their statements on the injuries observed/found?
is the “right” judge being lined up to handle this in court?
how about ballistics on the bullets? is that fixed too? , are any bullets missing accidentaly?
ee medicaal
Sergeant Loggins was a heroic Marine and an altruistic nursing student. His intelligence,behavior, and character are, without a doubt, beyond reproach. The police would NOT want me on the Grand Jury deciding the fate of the policeman who shot this hero. The “Rambo” affect is present in many policemen through out the USA. If they see a U.S. Veteran wearing decorations indicating that he is a combat veteran, some policeman, feeling somewhat “put down” by the same, will intimidate and harass such a veteran hoping to provoke a response that would justify the use of inordinate force against him by the police. The Sylvester Stallone movies describing this same “Rambo” affect on some policemen is not imaginary but real in my opinion!