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Israel relationship with US damaged beyond repair over Iran attack

Israel relationship with US damaged beyond repair over Iran attack

 

by Gordon Duff and Press TV

 

Editor’s Note:  This was written before the “fast shuffle” that allowed a minority to rescind, shamefully, the will of the Democratic Party

 

 
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President Obama and the Democratic Party announced today that they would no longer support a “platform” that advocates listing the city of Jerusalem as the capital of a Jewish state.

The President and the majority party made this statement for a variety of reasons, primarily however, based on pragmatism.
The president is assured the vast majority of Jewish voters in the United States, where recent polls indicate only 15% are “concerned” about Israeli security and 4% about relations with Iran, will continue to support him.

Sheldon Adelson

These figures reflect the approximate percentages of Jewish voters believed to support Mitt Romney, the Republican candidate tied to extremist elements in Israel and suspected members of organized crime. This minority of “outcasts” have created a bitter divide among the Jewish community in the United States.

Romney’s primary backer in the American Jewish community is Sheldon Adelson, whose history of involvement in gambling in the US and China has led to legal actions and accusations of involvement in prostitution and financial crimes.

The critical aspect of the Democratic platform was the removal of this language which had been included in the 2008 platform:

“The United States and its Quartet partners should continue to isolate Hamas until it renounces terrorism, recognizes Israel’s right to exist, and abides by past agreements. Sustained American leadership for peace and security will require patient efforts and the personal commitment of the President of the United States.

The creation of a Palestinian state through final status negotiations, together with an international compensation mechanism, should resolve the issue of Palestinian refugees by allowing them to settle there, rather than in Israel.

All understand that it is unrealistic to expect the outcome of final status negotiations to be a full and complete return to the armistice lines of 1949. The parties have agreed that Jerusalem is a matter for final status negotiations. It should remain an undivided city accessible to people of all faiths.”

The Republican Party website, www.breitbart.com, whose founder died mysteriously in his early 40s, issued the following analysis of the significant changes in direction for America, changes Romney and the Republicans expressed shock and horror at:

“…the campaign isn’t even saying the borders of Jerusalem are subject to negotiation, which would mean that the western part of the city would remain with the Jewish state. The Obama administration has removed all reference to Jerusalem from its platform, indicating a belief that the entire city is up for grabs.”

Those who believe in a strong United States/Israel alliance should be concerned that this year’s platform does not even pay lip service to these key issues for the future of the Jewish state.”

Today, Republican candidate, Mitt Romney, who recently attended overseas fundraisers, the first American politician to do so as foreign contributions to American elections are a felony, made the following statement:

“It is unfortunate that the entire Democratic Party has embraced President Obama’s shameful refusal to acknowledge that Jerusalem is Israel’s capital. Four years of President Obama’s repeated attempts to create distance between the United States and our cherished ally have led the Democratic Party to remove from their platform an unequivocal acknowledgment of a simple reality. As president, I will restore our relationship with Israel and stand shoulder to shoulder with our close ally.”

Political analysts in the US believe that Netanyahu’s interference in the US electoral process, something that has earned him criticism at home, has led to this change in American policy. Others have seen it coming for some time. Military leaders in both the US and Israel have repeatedly told Prime Minister Netanyahu that threats of military action against Iran were irrational.

Last week, General Martin Dempsey, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, America’s highest military leader under the president, traveled to Israel to personally deliver a message to Netanyahu.

The Israeli leader was told that under no circumstances would the US participate in an attack on Iran and that such an act by Israel, were it unilateral, would damage relations between the two nations.

General Martin Dempsey

Following this meeting, General Dempsey flew to Bagram Air Force Base in Kabul where his aircraft was destroyed by a missile attack. Sources within the Pentagon indicate that America’s “counter-battery” missile defense system was disabled by a computer virus during the attack, which would otherwise have been impossible.

No source for this electronic intrusion in such a key defense system at such a critical time has been found.

Soon after this attack, General Dempsey announced a cutback of US forces participating in joint military exercises with Israel. The initial force of 5,000 troops has been scaled back to 1,200.

America had also promised to move two AEGIS destroyers into the region. These are naval vessels with advanced air defense systems. Where two had been promised, there will now only be one.

The breakdown of relations between the US and Israel, though several years in the making, is more critical than ever with an Islamic government taking control in Egypt and dozens of Egyptian Army officers friendly to Israel, being forcibly retired.

Israel is in the process of making desperate attempts to repair that relationship which would, as things are progressing, eventually end all control of Gaza, an issue very much at the heart of Egyptian citizens who fought to overthrow the Mubarak regime.

Israel invited the Egyptian President, Mohammed Morsi, to Israel. However, this offer was declined. The issue was reported by Ynet News in Israel:

President Morsi

“A day after Israel’s foreign minister called on Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi to visit Israel, a Muslim Brotherhood official called such a visit impossible.”

“There is no possibility for Morsi to visit the Zionist entity,” Gamal Heshmat of the Muslim Brotherhood’s Freedom and Justice Party told an Egyptian online news magazine, Ynet reported.

“President Morsi’s patriotism will not allow him to do so,” Heshmat said, saying that the presidential palace will turn down the invitation.

Avigdor Lieberman issued the invitation Tuesday during a speech at a legal conference. He called for the visit after Morsi said in an interview Monday with Reuters that he would not attempt to overturn the 1979 peace treaty between Egypt and Israel.

In light of threats against Iran, currency instability in Europe, a key shift of allegiance by the US in the days preceding the national election and a new government in Egypt, these issues combined with the serious problems in Syria, have created an atmosphere of failure and powerlessness among political extremists in Israel.

Additionally, military and intelligence leaders in Israel are increasingly public in their criticism of the bellicose statements made by Netanyahu and fellow Likudist militants.

The real loss to Israel will be the “special relationship” with the United States which may have been damaged beyond repair. If this is so, then the “sands of time” may eventually close in on the Israeli state, one that has thus far failed to recognize and adapt to a changing world.

Editing:  Jim W. Dean

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43 Comments for “Israel relationship with US damaged beyond repair over Iran attack”

  1. Before anyone is going to buy any Israeli deals they first must clear out those complicit in 9-11 and other atrocities by Jewish and Mossad members….
    to start – see youtube — CIA Asset Susan Lindauer Can Now Speak 10 years after 9-11.
    Yeah the Bush WH did it… but also with Silverstien complicity… likely Guilliani too.
    Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

  2. Obama has spent his whole term vigorously pursuing the undisputed part of his Masters’ agenda: He’s protected Bush from his crimes; he’s expanded the illegal, immoral wars of aggression; he’s prevented an investigation into 9/11 and related events; he’s shredded what was left of the Constitution; he’s shredded what was left of “international law”; he’s brought torture and political murder and persecution of whistleblowers, etc., “out of the closet” and into the mainstream; he’s built up the Dept. of “Homeland Security” into a monster and continues to consolidate unprecedented power under the executive branch; he’s destroyed Libya; he’s moved assets to the Pacific to contain and confront China; he’s begun waging covert wars of aggression against Syria and Iran, etc.

    And then, we come to a critical point where – taken at face value – it seems our ruling class of Jewish-supremacist madman apparently disagree among themselves on how best to proceed, with the more radical, messianic faction apparently losing out to the more calculating faction – with Shabbos Goy puppet Obama merely doing what he always did, i.e., following the will of the Elders – and it’s going to be portrayed as an act of “defiance” against “Israel” by the “U.S. government”?

    If SIlverstein can mass murder people in the WTC towers, then publicly implicate himself in the crime, and then go on to collect a big insurance payout – AND THEN SUE THE INSURANCE CO. FOR MORE – before all the body parts are even collected; and if Rachel Corrie can be murdered in a horrific way in front of a bunch of witnesses AND THEN THE MURDERERS CAN EVEN PLUNDER HER ORGANS

    Don’t forget the “people” we’re dealing with here. These are the “people” that tried to murder the whole crew of the USS Liberty – so they could then proceed to murder millions more in the Mideast. These are the “people” who not only murdered Rachel Corrie, but then plundered her organs (apparently). These are the peopole who murdered unarmed peace activists in cold blood – trying to deliver humanitarian aid to the genocide victims in Gaza – and then in front of the whole world tried to blame the victims.

    In any case,

    • As I was saying before the cat jumped up on the keyboard:

      After all that’s happened, it’s going to take more than posturing to convince me that there’s been any change in anything.

  3. It is also interesting that when the dual citizen; an American/Turkish boy 19 was killed in a raid in International Waters. The M.E. report listed his death as 3 shots to his head while in a laying position. The US remains silent. Just as when a Jewish Atlanta Journalist openly called for the ([U.S. Based Mossad)] to assassinate Obama because… “He was not friendly to Israel”, Has an American said that they/he/she would be enjoy a plush cell at GITMO.
    Daily our Papers and Websites show what is going on and people still remain ASLEEP.
    NYPD just opened a office in Israel, The ADL website boasts of how Israeli’s are now training our SWAT, POLICE and MILITARY forces.
    Source: http://www.adl.org/learn/adl_law_enforcement/default.htm
    Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/06/nypd-opens-branch-israel-veteran-charlie-ben-naim_n_1860733.html?show_comment_id=184549517#comment_184549517
    Source: http://americanfreepress.net/?p=2528

    The list continues on and on. It is of no wonder our Law Enforcement are so violent towards this Countries OWN CITIZENS who protest at Zionist controlled Non-Federal (Federal Reserve) Banks that are clearly linked to Zionist’s and those in the White House who as the 82 page report said, “Does the bidding of Israel.”
    So what is all the fuss about?
    for the full article click below
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article32304.htm
    The study was commissioned by the US Intelligence Community comprising 16 American intelligence agencies with an annual budget in excess of $ 70 billion.
    Gross Israeli interference in the internal affairs of the United States through spying and illegal US arms transfers. This includes supporting more than 60 ‘front organizations’ and approximately 7,500 US officials who do Israel’s bidding and seek to dominate and intimidate the media and agencies of the US government which should no longer be condoned;

    • That the United States government no longer has the financial resources, or public support to continue funding Israel. The more than three trillion dollars in direct and indirect aid from US taxpayers to Israel since 1967 is not affordable and is increasingly being objected to by US taxpayers who oppose continuing American military involvement in the Middle East. US public opinion no longer supports funding and executing widely perceived illegal US wars on Israel’s behalf. This view is increasingly being shared by Europe, Asia and the International public;

    When a Loyal American brings this to the attention of other concerned American’s their email is filled with death threats from the JDL. This is perhaps the reason why Lieberman wants to shut down the internet with his Kill Switch.
    We are daily loosing our ability to practice our Freedom of Speech, this is noticed in the dissapearance of US Soldiers who fought for the US Constitution under an OATH to be arrested and placed in a Mental war for airing too what they have seen and now see is an Enemy Within.

  4. Gordon, I think that the Jerusalem issue is simply a diversion, i.e. “If the Zios can put the issue of Jerusalem as the MAIN focus, the real big question of the land grab since 1948 can be forgotten (inclusive the Golan Heights) and the Palestinian Refugees issue.

    Be ware that it might be a maneuver. The Zios can even settle for an Trilateral status (Jews-Christians-Muslims) for the city, but administrated by Israel.

    The negotiations to get there will take ages, once started and the Zios will say: “Oh let us first solve the issue of Jerusalem”, without any hope to ever address the refugees problem and a true Independent Palestinian State. It is a ruse to gain time, while expanding the settlements and enforcing the policy of ethnic cleansing.

  5. Obama’s lost a lot of weight lately…

  6. The Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995 has been “on the books” for almost 20 years. It’s irrelevant. At a time when it would be politically beneficial for the “Democrats” (and the Jewish ruling class) to attempt to show “independence” from Jewish control, it will take more than hollow gestures to convince me that there’s been any significant change in anything.

    Moreover, if “Obama” were doing something “independent”, i.e., something other than what the Elders of Zion [on balance] wanted him to do, the Jews would be screaming, and they aren’t.

  7. What I want to know is when did some Methodist Minister, the Democratic party, politicians or the USA, or even God for that matter, get into the real estate allocation business? These peddlers are insane. We are an occupied nation and it’s so sad that so many Americans have no idea.

    Funny thing about DNC video above… several blogs ran articles focused on the “God” part, neglecting to point out the objections were to the real estate allocation part, making it sound as if Democrats are against God! What nonsense. Our country is being ripped apart by a bunch of sick twisted mind f*ckers. It’s no wonder so many people tune out – they don’t even comprehend what the hell is really happening or what’s true anymore. A brainwashed population can’t be good for our national security, but it sure does serve corporate and foreign interests!

  8. then, Netanyahu would have Sheldon Adelson giving 100m to Obama rather than Romney.

    Harold may be missing something.

    • Quick, somebody take a silver spike and nail Adelson to a bingo card!

    • cant wait to hear Harolds explanation,,i doubt he has better inside info then Duff..

      Harold you out there?…whats the verdict?

    • “then, Netanyahu would have Sheldon Adelson giving 100m to Obama rather than Romney.”

      That’s not their M.O. It’s NOT about giving to “either/or”. Never has been!

      The COLLECTIVE IN CHARGE OF EVERYTHING shovels money to BOTH sides.

      Adelson’s just the guy selected to back Romney this time in this ridiculous charade uninformed ,(and therefore IGNORANT,) Americans have been fooled into thinking is a democratic election.

      We now know that almost ALL politicians these days follow orders dictated by a self-chosen tribe of evil gangsters headquartered in a foreign land they are in the process of stealing from its rightful owners. (I REFUSE to call it a country!) That’s why there really isn’t any fundamental difference between the politicians who are permitted to run in these farcical “elections”. When the same motley crew of murderous, racist psychopaths select and ultimately bankroll all sides, you have to accept the fact that those they have selected are interchangeable treasonous bots only in it for they can get out of it personally.

      Sure, everyone PRETENDS that the Rethuglicans and the Democraps are separate entities but everyone involved grabs their cash out of the same slush fund that was stolen from American Middle Class Taxpayers in the first place.

      Everyone knows that.

      So Adelson, Schmadelson…Next time it will be someone else selected by the tribe to be the Rethug’s public face as “Moneybags”. And it won’t matter a whit. The outcome of this criminal enterprise was decided years ago in rooms far removed from the citizens who will almost certainly be destroyed by these cruel and criminal shenanigans.

    • “Following this meeting, General Dempsey flew to Bagram Air Force Base in Kabul where his aircraft was destroyed by a missile attack. Sources within the Pentagon indicate that America’s “counter-battery” missile defense system was disabled by a computer virus during the attack, which would otherwise have been impossible.

      No source for this electronic intrusion in such a key defense system at such a critical time has been found.”

      Surely this deserves a chapter on it’s own!

      Was this “counter-battery” missile defense system designed in the United States, or is it one of those pesky, back-door-riddled software programs that the corrupt politicians bought from that shitty little country?

    • “Following this meeting, General Dempsey flew to Bagram Air Force Base in Kabul where his aircraft was destroyed by a missile attack. Sources within the Pentagon indicate that America’s “counter-battery” missile defense system was disabled by a computer virus during the attack, which would otherwise have been impossible.

      No source for this electronic intrusion in such a key defense system at such a critical time has been found.”

      Surely this deserves an article on its own!

      Was this “counter-battery” missile defense system designed in the United States, or is it one of those pesky, back-door-riddled software programs that the corrupt politicians bought from a “shitty little country” with a history of murdering Americans?

  9. you sure this article is correct ?,,”haroldsmith” says Obama and his administration sleeps with Nuttinyahoo and the relationship couldn’t be better,,its all a charade they really really love each other…

    maybe he was just confused,,he meant Romney..

    • Maybe you can find a helpful adult in your neighborhood and get him or her to read what I wrote and explain it to you in simpler terms, commensurate with your limited faculties. (Don’t feel bad, as that’s what BJBronco had to do too. Unfortunately though, in her case, as it turned out there were no words simple enough to get through her thick skull).

      What I said is that both “Israel” and the “U.S.” are controlled by Jews, and that our Masters don’t always agree among themselves on tactics and timing. Moreover, the Jews’ task of establishing Jewish global governence is obviously very difficult – even for such “superior” “beings” – and involves some trial-and-error, and involves having to deal with unpredictable real-world complexities as they arise, etc., and the agenda obviously requires vast, intricate, multiple layers of deception.

      I’ve explained elsewhere in some detail the psychological and political benefits our Masters derive from the political Punch-and-Judy show they put on whereby they attempt to portray “Israel” and the “U.S.” “government” as separate, “independent” entities. And for the nth time, it’s a fraud.

      Lastly, if there really were two separate, independent political entities known as “Israel” and the “U.S.”, and the “relationship” between them really was “damaged beyond repair”, there would be some substantial evidence of it, and there is not.

      • maybe you ought to do a little background search on Obama before you spew out so called undeniable facts,,it dont take much investigative work to uncover Obama might be a closet anti-Semite or have a serious dislike of Zionist Jews,,and if thats the case i doubt Obama is bending over pants around the ankles in front of Nuttinyahoo,,if anything the roles may now be reversed..and just because were in the middle east dont mean were there because of the Jews,,we need oil,control worlds opium supply,precious resources like metals and military bases to hold our military edge etc etc..but thats all bla bla bla,,lets examine some past friendships/relationships of the president
        http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/03/11/Judging%20Obama%20by%20His%20Antisemitic%20Friends
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvdAWJ3tyR0
        http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/07/figures-obama-supporting-anti-semitic-truther-is-running-for-mo-secretary-of-state/

        this one is my favorite Obama says “pay the same tax rate as a Jew,,ahhhhh i mean janitor” lol
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CTveeRIg2wo

        and we all know about his pro-Palestinian past prior to running for senate..
        i seriously doubt this administration is anything pro-Israel,,anything we see on TV now is a dog and pony show to steal any Jewish votes and money that he can..Palestinian statehood is a real possibility if he wins a second term..

        • You play right into the hand, tool. O’s dislike of the nut has nothing to do with anything. This right/left stuff is exactly what they want, they being the top cabal that controls Everything. This is about two mobs fighting for the right to kill us. That is all. The ndaa should have clued you in to that reality. Or how about the fact you are being sprayed with chemtrail biowarfare which is giving you Morgellons fibers for transhumanism. Don’t forget haarp earthquakes, drought and hurricanes. All while billions of profit is made from that and war. See ‘Why in the World are They Spraying’. Then see this, top two diagrams – 911nwo.com/NWReligion%20Part%202.html – and this how they control this right/left junk fighting – 911nwo.com/NWO Flowchart.html – They also created the tool of Israel, so again, it does not matter who doesn’t like Israel, because the cabal controls everything.

      • haroldsmith, you appear to be firing on all cylinders from where I sit. Keep up your good work.

  10. Mr. Duff,
    Can you see why the political process cannot any longer be supported?
    It is utterly insane to advocate for, and protect a nation that has attacked us, not once, but again and again. How can we invest authority in a system that ultimately compromises not only our security, but our very future?
    There is no longer anyone to vote for. None of the above needs to be an option. We need candidates who can pass a sanity test, understand and are true to their roots and their country, and eschew any association with organized crime of any stripe.
    Amazing.
    What a year.

    • If we play into Adelson’s hands, the mob will rule America.

      Unless you are prepared and organized for immediate civil war, you have no option but to vote, organize and redress.

      g

      • You mentioned ‘civil war’ a few times. I don’t understand that. Signals on economic collapse, sure. Though a ‘collapse’ devaluing the dollar further doesn’t mean closing the banks, it just means further devalued cash. The only reason to close the banks is to force a ‘cashless’ system that I doubt Americans will be stupid enough to fall for. So why did Obama take control of food, water, energy, animals, agriculture, even people in his martial law eo, and why the ndaa. Also why is he having haarp drought our food supply and spraying biowarfare chemtrails here. I haven’t heard any problems coming from the people about a ‘civil war’, not that I know of. It sounds like the government is attacking our food and us and planning to shut down banks for no reason or starve us. Especially with the billion hollow points bought by homeland. That’s a nice name, ‘homeland’. They must be nice people. Are they planning unecessary bank closings or starvation and to call it a ‘civil war’ or will there be haarp quakes? This election looks like we the people are in a skillet with two mobs fighting over who gets to fry us. Be nice if you could give us the inside scoop G but I know you can’t. –btw the special ops piece was a good wrap.

        On the lighter side, while I don’t buy the fake drama between fake leaders because they’re all in on the demise of the US, that caveat in mind, check out this one (copy paste) – tomatobubble.com/putin_obama.html . Even O would have to laugh-

      • Gordon, I don’t understand why you and others bring out the civil war card. As I see it, there’s about 300 million of us and maybe 1,000 of them. Yeah, they’ve got lots of money and that buys lots of perks and goodies but they’re also complete cowards, most of them. If and when a few million of us decide to go after their asses, my bet is they’ll do what rich little pu—ies do and run as fast as they can to the darkest little hole they can find. They spend all their time and money keeping us in the dark and keeping us down but it ain’t gonna last forever. And when it snaps, it ain’t gonna be a civil war. I trust your military knows who’s side they’re on and I don’t see the fight lasting long.

        Matt

        Lexington, ky

      • Mr. Duff,
        Yes, it is always the same. We are railroaded into supporting someone wrong for the job, because the other one is a disaster.
        I’m really not sure if we can avoid civil war, since its being cultivated in entertainment, ideology, economics, and in politics even as I write this. Divide and conquer, the old strategy, rehashed today.

    • It is also interesting that when the dual citizen; an American/Turkish boy 19 was killed in a raid in International Waters. The M.E. report listed his death as 3 shots to his head while in a laying position. The US remains silent. Just as when a Jewish Atlanta Journalist openly called for the ([U.S. Based Mossad)] to assassinate Obama because… “He was not friendly to Israel”, Has an American said that they/he/she would be enjoy a plush cell at GITMO.
      Daily our Papers and Websites show what is going on and people still remain ASLEEP.
      NYPD just opened a office in Israel, The ADL website boasts of how Israeli’s are now training our SWAT, POLICE and MILITARY forces.
      Source: http://www.adl.org/learn/adl_law_enforcement/default.htm
      Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/06/nypd-opens-branch-israel-veteran-charlie-ben-naim_n_1860733.html?show_comment_id=184549517#comment_184549517
      Source: http://americanfreepress.net/?p=2528

      The list continues on and on. It is of no wonder our Law Enforcement are so violent towards this Countries OWN CITIZENS who protest at Zionist controlled Non-Federal (Federal Reserve) Banks that are clearly linked to Zionist’s and those in the White House who as the 82 page report said, “Does the bidding of Israel.”
      So what is all the fuss about?
      for the full article click below
      http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article32304.htm
      The study was commissioned by the US Intelligence Community comprising 16 American intelligence agencies with an annual budget in excess of $ 70 billion.
      Gross Israeli interference in the internal affairs of the United States through spying and illegal US arms transfers. This includes supporting more than 60 ‘front organizations’ and approximately 7,500 US officials who do Israel’s bidding and seek to dominate and intimidate the media and agencies of the US government which should no longer be condoned;

      • That the United States government no longer has the financial resources, or public support to continue funding Israel. The more than three trillion dollars in direct and indirect aid from US taxpayers to Israel since 1967 is not affordable and is increasingly being objected to by US taxpayers who oppose continuing American military involvement in the Middle East. US public opinion no longer supports funding and executing widely perceived illegal US wars on Israel’s behalf. This view is increasingly being shared by Europe, Asia and the International public;

      When a Loyal American brings this to the attention of other concerned American’s their email is filled with death threats from the JDL. This is perhaps the reason why Lieberman wants to shut down the internet with his Kill Switch.
      We are daily loosing our ability to practice our Freedom of Speech, this is noticed in the disappearance of US Soldiers who fought for the US Constitution under an OATH to be arrested and placed in a Mental war for airing too what they have seen and now see is an Enemy Within.

  11. Charlotte NC Bill

    But, hold the presses. Just heard a report that Obama promised to send Talmudia “bunker busting bombs” in exchange for the crazies not attacking Iran until AFTER the election…it’s up @ http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk

  12. Charlotte NC Bill

    Hey-hey, ho-ho..Talmudia’s got to go!

  13. im glad to hear you say that i thought so too,,he was pretty convinced those two were secret lovers..

  14. Coming from a consummate moron such as yourself, that’s a nice compliment; thanks, BJ.

  15. Opps. That editors note was the senior one. Gordon. I always put my name in one that is in a Gordon piece to avoid confusion. There is a method to our madness here :-)

  16. TJB,
    Of course I didn’t read it, I absorbed it with the bones in my hands. Sheesh, you are soooo lame!

  17. TJ, Do you have anything USEFUL to add to the discussion? Or have you been placed here by your masters to muddy the waters and sow confusion and division with your childish antics and perpetual displays of ignorance, whether willful or not?

    Surely a REAL person, grounded in good sense AND informed through a personal commitment to the truth, could admit to the valid points raised by haroldsmith, don’t you think?

    Or is that it? …you DON’T THINK before applying your pinkies to your computer keys?…?

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  5. ani: LOL Venice the Venetians Florentines Guelphs Black nobilities….. I know for a fact that Ernst of Hanover (Germany)-earl or count of Armagh (Ireland) for a while married to Caroline of Monaco (Grimaldi) but with a new girl ...

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