“Innocence of Muslims”, the GOP and World War III

by Jim Fetzer


We are being told by ABC News that Iran has launched a submarine and a destroyer into the Persian Gulf from Bandar Abbas port on Tuesday at the same time as U.S. and allied forces held massive naval exercises in the same waters to practice keeping oil shipping lanes open.

Tehran has repeatedly threatened to close the Strait of Hormuz, a route for oil exports from the gulf, if Iranian nuclear sites are attacked by Israel, which believes Tehran is trying to develop an atomic bomb. But think about it.

As Mike Rivero observes, this may well be a propaganda run-up to a false flag attack in which one of Israel’s Dolphin submarines, admitted by Germany to be armed with nuclear-tipped cruise missiles, sneaks up along the Iranian cost and fires an attack at a US ship, quite possibly the soon-to-be-scrapped USS Enterprise. So, ahead of hearing the Big Bang and the inevitable screams from Israel’s presstitutes at ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX. Just use your common sense and ask yourself why Iran, trying as hard as they can to avoid a war, would initiate such a foolish attack? As a reminder, Iran has not started a war in over 300 years.  And a “false flag” attack under these circumstances would be all too easy to arrange.  We are on the verge of World War III.  How did we reach this point?

With the demise of the Soviet Union in 1991, the US military-industrial-complex was on the verge of losing its principal justification for the gravy train of producing endless arms and ammunition to restrain the relentless expansion of the Communist Empire. It desperately needed a new, alternative “boogie man” to keep the conveyor belts moving and its profits–from increasingly technical and expensive weapon systems–soaring, where nothing could work better than some shadowy and elusive enemy in the form of “terrorists”, whose identity has no geographic boundaries and where “terrorist acts”, like the Bali bombing, can be arranged at any time it would be politically expedient.  If the government claims such an act was done by “a terrorist”, very few are in the position to explain that it was actually Blackwater (now “Xe”), Delta Forces, or the CIA.

The fabrication of the events of 9/11, which were done with complicity by the Mossad, fulfilled that objective perfectly, especially by blaming those attacks on 19 Islamic fanatics under the control of a guy off in a cave in Afghanistan.  Few have noticed that the first reported claims of responsibility were attributed to the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, as Preston James and I explained in “Peeling the 9/11 Onion: Layers of Plots within Plots” (2011). 15 of the 19 “hijackers” were from Saudi Arabia, but no one here seemed to notice.

That Osama had been “our man in Afghanistan” was never acknowledged and, although stories of “blowback” have abounded, until this latest series of protests, which appear to represent the culmination of the decade of abuse of Muslims as a people and Islam as a religion, they seemed fabricated or contrived.  Certainly, the low road taken by the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld troika, which, in “9/11 and the Neo-Con Agenda” (2008), I likened to a crime syndicate masquerading as an administration, sowed the seeds for bona-fide “blowback”.

The Assassination of an Ambassador

The deaths of Ambassador Christopher Stevens, information management officer (“propaganda specialist”) Sean Smith, and two others may have been cunningly contrived.  In his recollections of Stevens, French philosopher Bernard-Henri Levy has remarked, “This time, the imbeciles have won”, because the ambassador was among the strongest friends of the Islamic world the US has ever placed in the field.  While my thoughts about this are somewhat speculative, it may have instead been part of the plan to use the excited protest against this deliberately provocative film, “Innocence of Muslims”, as a cover to take out one of our most effective ambassadors, where there are reasons to believe that he was not going to go along with new plans to destabilize Libya once again.  Sen. John McCain, who recently visited Benghazi, has laid the responsibility for his murder on Obama for not paying enough attention to foreign affairs, which suggests that this incident may be part of the GOP “game plane” to elect Mitt Romney by attacking the President’s foreign policy. There are reports that the attackers may have had help from inside the consulate.

Bear in mind that the Israels are the most accomplished practitioners of “false flag” ops in the world today.  You do not have to go back to the bombing of the King David Hotel in 1946 when a gang of Irgun terrorists dressed as Arabs murdered 91 and injured another 46; or the attack on the USS Liberty in 1967, when Israeli fighters torpedoed and strafed an American spy ship during the Six Day War, killing 34 and wounding 170; or the bombing of its own Embassy in Bueos Aires, Argentina, in 1992, which did not result in enough deaths, so they bombed the Jewish Community Center for greater political effect in 1994 (“False Flag Attacks in Argentina: 1992 and 1994″, with Adrian Salbuchi).  But the massacres at Sabra and Shatila in 1982 are nice illustrations of the duplicity of the nation’s highest leaders, where Arial Sharon provided cover for the massacre of between 762 and 3,500 Palestinian and Lebanese Shiite civilians by a Lebanese Christian Phalangist militia, while the IDF illuminated the streets to facilitate the killing. So taking out Ambassador Stevens under the cover of this protest would have posed no problems for the Mossad.

The “Innocence of Muslims” as Provocation 

Of course, those who understand the history of the three great Abrahamic religions are aware of their common origins, but that kind of knowledge and sensitivity is exceedingly rare in the USA. As Christof Lehmann observes, “Hollywood stirs Middle East Plot“, Asia Times (18 September 2012), it is rather difficult to imagine that this inferior, low-budget film and those earlier cartoon denigrations of the Prophet Mohammed could possibly explain the resistance they have met in the Middle East, which appears instead to be the latest manifestation of decades of stereotyping of Arabs that has come from Hollywood. Westerners and non-Muslims are seemingly so used to the scapegoating, stereotyping and denigration of Muslims and in particular Arab Muslims in art and entertainment, he remarks, that they don’t realize the degree to which the Western news and entertainment industry, and in particular Hollywood–which is largely dominated by individuals who are dedicated to the cause of Zionism and to promoting Israel’s interests–is representationally depriving an entire population, predominantly Muslim, of its essential humanity.

As Lehmann also reports, the Arab American scholar, D Jack Shaheen, had himself reviewed more than 1,000 movies, from the oldest Hollywood productions to the greatest blockbuster productions up to 2001 before publishing Real Bad Arabs, How Hollywood Vilifies a People. Shaheen concluded that no less than 300 movies, more than 25% of those he studied, vilified Arabs and Muslims in one way or the other, which represents an effort comparable to World War II Nazi propaganda against the Jewish people. This extensive and enduring cinematic portrayal of Arabs, especially Palestinians, creates a cultural background against which current events have to be understood. Even the Disney Classic “Aladdin”, which has been seen by millions of people worldwide, affords an example of Hollywood’s dehumanizing approach. The gullible and naive, especially children, are subtly induced to believe that Arab countries are typified by barbaric practices, such as where innocent women have their hands amputated for forgetting to pay at the bizarre; and, in other films, as he explains, Arab men are depicted as imbecilic and super-rich, sex-addicted tyrants, who not only mistreat their women but especially American women, who are kidnapped and sold off to sleazy Arabs at auctions. That theme is nicely illustrated by “Taken” (2008), where a retired CIA agent (played by Liam Neeson) travels across Europe and relies on his old skills to save his daughter, who was kidnapped on a trip to Paris and sold at auction to a wealth Arab sheik.  Even my wife and I enjoyed the film, which I am embarrassed to admit, but it is of that kind.

The film as Zionist anti-Muslim Propaganda 

According to The Washington Post (14 September 2012), the man who goes by the name, “Sam Bacile”, turns out to be Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, 55, if that indeed is his real name, who has been convicted of financial crimes. By making the film, he may have violated the terms of his parole and could be sent back to prison.  He pleaded “no contest” to bank fraud charges in 2010 and was banned from using computers or the internet or the use of false identities as part of his sentence.  Kakoula has identified himself as a “Coptic Christian”, where much of the film was apparently shot inside the offices of Media for Christ, a non-profit based in Duarte, an area of Los Angeles, CA, which has raised more than $1,000,000 to “glow Jesus’ light” to the world.  A Hermit, CA, man who was script advisor for the film, Steven Klein, has reported having received several death threats, but claims this was an exercise of his First Amendment rights and that he is prepared to die defending them.

The most reasonable interpretation of the production of this film, where the actors themselves did not know the roles they were destined to play when it was edited, like earlier cartoons belittling the Prophet Mohammed, is that it was intended to inflame tensions in the Middle East, which have already been exacerbated by the ongoing presence of US military forces in Iraq and in Afghanistan, not to mention their presence in Pakistan and the on-going use of predator drones.  So much of what is taking place has to be understood as stage props in political theater, none of which have been more blatant than the second killing of Osama bin Laden or concealing the first death of Saddam Hussein, which I summarized in “9/11: Have we been bamboozled?” (2012).  The political situation relative to the presidential election to be held in November suggests that this may be part and parcel of a plan to salvage the prospects of Mitt Romney, who has staked virtually his entire political fortunes on the claim that Barack Obama has a failed foreign policy.

The Master Plan: to take over 7 nations in 5 years

Remember that Wesley Clark, the former Supreme Allied Commander Europe (a 4-star general), acknowledged that he had been informed of plans for the US to attack 7 countries in 5 years at The Commonwealth Club of California in San Francisco (3 October 2007).  Most of the countries on that list, including Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya, have been taken over, where the battle for Syria continues to rage and that for Iran appears to be about to begin.  We have reports that Iran is supporting Syria, which makes excellent sense, and it would come as no surprise if Russia were not doing what it can to maintain the Assad regime in place.  In my view, if Russia were to declare that any attack on Iran would be regarded as an attack on Russia, it would bring about a high degree of stability and end the hysterical calls for attacking Iran, which have been promoted by Benjamin Netanyahu, especially, who turns out to be a close friend of Mitt Romney and may even believe he would be in the position to dictate US foreign policy were Romney to be elected.

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A situation like this would be inconceivable in times past when there was domestic disagreement between the political parties in the United States but still unanimity in foreign affairs.  As David Kerans (3 October 2012), has explained, however, the parties have become so polarized that even foreign policy is no longer bipartisan.  Since the misconceived “Citizens United” decision by the Supreme Court to allow corporations unlimited spending on political advertising, the US has become increasingly under the control of the rich and powerful.  Economic discussion is dominated by free market theology, which has no basis in reality, since the conditions that Adam Smith declared necessary for free markets, including transparency in pricing and the absence of monopolies, do not exist in America today and are one more part of the illusional ideology known as “American exceptionalism”.  When an administration can murder 3,000 of its own citizens, fabricate evidence and promote political myths, which is the grim reality of 9/11, it should be apparent to the world that the US is no longer a responsible member of the community of nations.

Coping with disinformation and propaganda

Most of what is going on in the US and the world today that affects public opinion about the war on terror and the ongoing aggression in the Middle East is, like the events of 9/11, either phony or contrived.  Wayne Madsen (“Wayne Madsen Reports”, 23-24 July 2012), for example, has found several links between James Holmes of the Aurora, CO, “Batman” shooting, and U.S. government research: “James Holmes, the 24-year old suspect in the mass shooting of Batman ‘The Dark Knight Rises’ movie goers in Aurora, Colorado that left 12 people dead and 58 injured, has had a number of links to U.S. government-funded research centers. Holmes’s past association with government research projects has prompted police and federal law enforcement officials to order laboratories and schools with which Holmes has had a past association not to talk to the press about Holmes.” This is very suspicious on its face and suggests the possibility of mind-control.

Similarly, Madsen has also discovered (7-8 August 2012) that the dead suspected gunman who opened fire inside a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin served from April 1992 to October 1998 as a member of the psychological operations unit at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. “CNN cited a ‘Pentagon source’ claiming Page was discharged from the Army in 1998 for “patterns of misconduct.” However, the U.S. Army only revealed that Page was awarded several medals, including good conduct medals and a humanitarian service medal.”  This does not prove that these were staged events, but they certainly create that presumption.  And CNN has also just reported (16 September 2012), “Egypt’s prime minister said some of the thousands involved in days of protest near the US Embassy got paid to participate, state news reported Saturday, the same day riot police managed to force demonstrators from the area”.  It is becoming increasingly difficult to sort out which events are real and which are Memorex.

Setting the Stage for World War III

It’s a matter of setting the stage for further and more ominous actions.  The UK “Telegraph” (15 September 2012), has now reported that an armada of US and British naval power is massing in the Persian Gulf in the belief that Israel is considering a pre-emptive [NOTE: actually, a preventative] strike against Iran’s suspected nuclear weapons program: “Cruisers, aircraft carriers and minesweepers from 25 nations are converging on the strategically important Strait of Hormuz in an unprecedented show of force as Israel and Iran move towards the brink of war. . . . In preparation for any pre-emptive or retaliatory action by Iran, warships from more than 25 countries, including the United States, Britain, France, Saudi Arabia and the UAE, will today begin an annual 12-day exercise.”  We have here what may well be the ingredients for a “perfect storm”.

The situation is completely absurd: Iran has not attacked any other nation for over 300 years.  Iran has renounced development of atomic weapons. Iran has signed the NPT and allowed inspectors into its facilities. Israel, by contrast, has 200-600 or more of these little beauties, has not signed the NPT and does not allow inspectors into its facilities.  Yet its prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, “King Bibi: ‘Red Line’ with Iran Means War Next 60 Days“, YouTube (16 September 2012), has demanded the US draw a “red line” to demarcate developments by Iran that would commit the US to war.  The US so far has refused to do that, which may itself be a “false front” by the Obama administration.  But the situation is enormously fraught with hazard and represents the greatest threat of precipitating World War III since the Cuban Missile Crisis, when cooler heads and higher intelligence prevailed.

Jim Fetzer, a former Marine Corps officer and McKnight Professor Emeritus at the University of Minnesota Duluth, is the founder of Scholars for 9/11 and organized The Vancouver Hearings (15-17 June 2012) with Joshua Blakeney.

Jim Fetzer

A former Marine Corps officer, Jim Fetzer has published widely on the theoretical foundations of scientific knowledge, computer science, artificial intelligence, cognitive science, and evolution and mentality.McKnight Professor Emeritus at the University of Minnesota Duluth, he has also conducted extensive research into the assassination of JFK, the events of 9/11, and the plane crash that killed Sen. Paul Wellstone.

The founder of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, his latest books include The Evolution of Intelligence (2005), The 9/11 Conspiracy (2007), Render Unto Darwin (2007), and The Place of Probability in Science (2010).

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44 Responses to "“Innocence of Muslims”, the GOP and World War III"

  1. Garibaldi  September 20, 2012 at 9:11 am

    Oh, No. Here we go again. As I was just now whining, something along the lines of- “it’s already well past high time to establish culpability”, it appears that yet another utterly predictable masterpiece of merda has just rolled freshly off the presses over at Daily Mail, accomplishing just that very thing. Looks like they beat us to it again, boys. Sure don’t look Mossad to me. This isn’t even one of Peacenik’s Saudis. This time, the freak is made out to be a freaking Libyan. Can’t these Zio-Mediators show any originality at all? Somebody, somewhere, give me a freaking break from this endless freak show……….. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2205825/Sufyan-Ben-Qumu-Former-Gitmo-inmate-planned-al-Qaeda-attack-Libyan-consulate.html

    • ricohands  September 21, 2012 at 6:35 am

      Daily mail a zio owned pos

  2. clausdoehring  September 19, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    yusefguitar, i am surprised. not many know about that. and after that he invented the holocaust. he occupied the concentration camp in dachau, germany, let the 250 guardians execute and with no witnesses left he declared in public and film reports, the duschraum was the gas chamber and the gas came out of the shower heads. today it is official, there was never a gas chamber in dachau. but it might have helped him, to become later president. ” I like Ike “

  3. Garibaldi  September 19, 2012 at 11:33 am

    Although events of past days seem to bear out a carefully planned and very successful provocation to produce Islamic war against Zion as a casus belli to enter Iran, it’s already well past high time to firmly establish culpability for a failed false-flag assassination of Ambassador Stevens, which might arguably be construed as an act of war against the United States, (and which Gordon Duff has desperately been trying to nail down in his channeling of Iranian media over the past week). I believe Duff has made unequivocal statements to the effect that Netanyahu is NOW, in effect, conducting de facto war against US. I should very much like to know how, at this crucial point, Obama can have “Israel’s back”, while an already bloody knife is being twisted into his own.

    • Dan  September 19, 2012 at 5:19 pm

      Garibaldi, not to quibble, but the alien enclave of Zionist Jews in America has been waging a de facto war against our society, institutions, and people for ninety years now. I haven’t verified this, but a Russian monk supposedly prophesied “What began in Russia will end in America.”

      As Dr. Fetzer points out, the ZOG is obviously and unambiguously preparing to make war on America in the very near future, as the real animus of Zionist hatred has always been America, which they see as an intolerable affront and the greatest obstacle to their racial-supremacist designs for enslaving mankind.

    • Garibaldi  September 19, 2012 at 8:54 pm

      Thus spake the holy and clairvoyant Elder Ignaty, (or Ignatius), of Harbin, Manchuria.
      Second to last paragraph of main article- http://orthodoxinfo.com/ecumenism/cat_joseph.aspx
      Old Ignaty pretty much nailed it.

    • Dan  September 20, 2012 at 5:35 am

      Tks for the link, and Old Ignaty nailed it, all right. The article should serve as a warning to Christian Americans, offering yet another example of the fiendish pleasure yesterday’s Bolsheviks took in mutilating Christians–forcing people on the train to stand dripping wet on frozen steel so the bottoms of their feet were torn off.

      The article’s referring to Russian communism as “the first satanist regime” implies another is coming, the second satanist regime, consolidating its power in the US today, as we witness the federal government through the DHS, federal law enforcement, and our police and judicial system relentlessly abrogating our rights and normalizing cruelty.

      Nietzsche’s “To watch suffering is pleasurable, to inflict it even more pleasurable” is already the de facto motto of the DHS. What the ZOG and its lackeys in Congress are doing to Muslims today they won’t hesitate doing to American Christians tomorrow, as they did to sixty-six million Russian Christians in the last century.

    • ricohands  September 21, 2012 at 6:33 am

      “We have exterminated the property owners in Russia. We are going to do the same thing in Europe and America.” (The Jew, December 1925, Zinobit)

      “The world revolution which we will experience will be exclusively our affair and will rest in our hands. This revolution will tighten the Jewish domination over all other people.”
      (Le Peuple Juif, February 8, 1919)

  4. Jim Fetzer  September 19, 2012 at 9:04 am

    Further confirmation for my profound pessimism comes from the hysterical raving of Ed Koch, who is advancing the absurd proposition that Iran would attack the US were it to obtain nuclear weapons. How many Americans fall for this rubbish may be difficult to calculate, but it is not difficult to discern that he is playing a propagandistic role here in attempting to induce the false belief that Iran poses a threat to the US and Israel, when it is the US and Israel that pose a threat to Iran–and to their own nation’s residents. Iran has never threatened “to wipe Israel off the map” and the general was obviously discussing a response to an attack upon Iran by Israel and not reiterating a deliberate mistranslation that has been used as an instrument of disinformation for far too long.

    Breaking from Newsmax.com

    Iran Will Attack U.S. if It Gets Nuclear Weapons

    By Edward Koch

    The New York Times of Sept. 17 reported that “in Iran, the commander of the powerful Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari, took the unusual step of holding a news conference on Sunday to warn that ‘nothing will remain’ in Israel if it or any other nation launches attacks against his country.

    “He said that Iran and its allies — presumably Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in Gaza — would retaliate at Israel’s borders, as would Iran itself in Israel and beyond, targeting American military bases in the Persian Gulf and shutting down the Strait of Hormuz,” according to the newspaper.

    The Times goes on to report: “Iran has often threatened to counter any attack, but the general’s threats were unusually specific and signaled Iran’s intent to turn any possible attack into a regional conflict. ‘Our response to Israel is clear: I think nothing will remain of Israel,’ General Jafari said, according to an account by The Associated Press. ‘Given Israel’s small land area and its vulnerability to a massive volume of Iran’s missiles, I don’t think any spot in Israel will remain safe.’ General Jafari also confirmed, in what appeared to be the clearest terms so far, that some high-level advisers from his elite unit were working in Syria and Lebanon, underscoring how deeply intertwined the many conflicts in the region have become.”

    So now we have one of Iran’s top generals joining the president of Iran in calling for the destruction of Israel. The Iranian general threatens Israel’s total demise and destruction “if [Israel] or any other nation launches attacks against his country.” The Iranian president’s longstanding calls for Israel’s destruction have always been unconditional.

    Israel is normally referred to by Iranian government officials as the “little Satan” and the U.S. as the “big Satan.”

    You can be sure that if and when Iran develops a nuclear bomb and a rocket capable of reaching the U.S., we here in the U.S. will be at risk simply because we exist. The fanatic Muslims engaged in jihad against Western civilization have as their goal the total destruction of Western civilization which they both envy and hate. Their ultimate objective is to convert the world to Islam.

    There are very few Jews left in most Arab countries. In some countries, none.

    They were forced to flee after Israel became a state in 1948. Many Christian Arabs in Arab countries including those living under the Palestinian Authority on the West Bank, have left their homelands as a result of persecution by their Muslim countrymen.

    Neither Bethlehem nor Nazareth are cities with a Christian majority. The Arab Christian population of the Palestinian territories has dropped to just 2 percent. Many of those fleeing their countries have sought and found refuge in the U.S. The Coptic Christians who remain in Arab countries, approximately 10 million in Egypt, live in great fear and have suffered pogroms at the hands of their Muslim neighbors. Christians are also in danger in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan.

    The recent attacks on American embassies in Egypt and Libya — including the deaths of Chris Stevens, the American Ambassador to Libya, and three other U.S. diplomatic personnel in Libya — have been followed by anti-American demonstrations in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Lebanon, Tunisia, Yemen, Sudan, Nigeria, Iraq and Iran.

    Why should anyone be surprised?

    The Arab and Muslim countries hate the U.S., even those like Egypt, Libya and Tunisia, who have recently overthrown Arab despots during the so-called “Arab Spring,” with the assistance of the U.S. and other Western countries.

    Those who were helped by the Western countries to overthrow their despots immediately became Islamist states threatening the U.S. In Afghanistan, where we have spent billions in seeking to create a democratic government, the Afghan army and police of the government we are now supporting and defending against the Taliban are responsible for the killing of American and NATO soldiers training them.

    According to The New York Times of Sept.16, the six deaths on Friday, Sept. 14 “brought to 51 the number of coalition service members killed this year in insider attacks. The toll has already well exceeded last year’s total of 35 killed in such violence.”

    Training the Afghan security forces is the publicly-stated reason of the U.S. as to why we are remaining until 2014. We should evacuate all of our troops from Afghanistan immediately.

    We know that when the president publicly stated Egypt was not an ally, he could have said the same about Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan. The Muslim world believes the U.S. is not willing or able to use military action against Iran.

    It knows from the immediate and recent sacking of our embassies in both Egypt and Libya with the security forces in both those countries refusing to protect the American embassies, that the U.S. is not prepared or willing to punish those countries.

    Normally in such cases, is it unreasonable to expect our ambassadors — those still alive — to be recalled? Is it unreasonable to immediately cut off as much as remains of the $2 billion annual appropriation to Egypt and whatever we are providing Libya?

    Is it unreasonable to prohibit Americans from going to both Egypt and Libya as tourists because of the physical danger to them? Egypt’s economy depends on tourism to balance its budget.

    President Obama on a number of occasions has publicly stated, “I have Israel’s back.” I don’t know what that means in practice.

    I believe he should publicly state, as Sen. Daniel Inouye of Hawaii said back in January of this year that an attack by Iran on Israel would be considered an attack on the U.S. that would elicit an immediate military response.

    Former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates said in February 2011, “Any future defense secretary who advises the president to again send a big American land army into Asia or into the Middle East or Africa should ‘have his head examined,’ as Gen. [Douglas] MacArthur so delicately put it.”

    I agree with him, but that should not preclude our using our extraordinary air power — rockets, planes and drones — our Navy, and our stunning special forces where needed.

  5. Ken Rechtstein  September 19, 2012 at 9:04 am

    Israel, being, by deceit, an artificially and illegally created state is not only a liability for the USA, it is much so a liability for the entire international community too and a lethal danger for its neighbors and world peace.

    Israel is a state that exists only because of the myths-manipulations-bribes-terror actions-set up and blackmailing of decision makers and politicians in the USA-EU.

    It has acquired on its own and by its own actions-abuses and disregard for international law the right to be labeled a Rogue State that endangers the life of Jews and Gentiles within the Middle East. the USA. Europe and else where.

    By deceit-manipulation-bribes-bullying tactics (AIPAC-ADL) and infiltration, Israel managed to hijack the USA, by MAFIA LIKE methods and procedures, placing its foot soldiers and lieutenants in virtually every Institution of the USA and, perverting the US Constitution and the American Values, through the undisputed monopoly and control members of the Zion Talmudic Mafia have of the Media and the Money.

    Things got worse when the US Institutions dealing with National Security and Foreign Policy started openly to appoint dual nationals in leading positions. this epidemic contamination went so far as to reach the CIA, the FBI, the DHS, the NSA and even Academics.

    Furthermore the same Mafia managed to get Congress and Senate to outsource Intel to the MOSSAD and permit blatant espionage within the USA on behalf of Israel. This and the firm grip AIPAC has on both the Democratic and the Republican parties, have meant that America became more and more a prostitute doing Israel bidding, paying tributes to the ZIO MAFIA and permitting more and more abuses and endangerment-loss of American lives and impoverishment of the American People.

    We have only ourselves to thank for letting this happen and, still the sheeple do not understand who is to blame for the descent of America to abysses of corruption, war crimes and poverty.

    More than ever a total divorce from Israel is called for urgently, if America and the American people are to be free and at peace at home and among the nations of planet earth.

    Its insane that an artificial state of 6 million people has so much clout (AIPAC) that America and the World have to dance to its false and irrational tune.


    • ricohands  September 21, 2012 at 6:26 am

      Well said!

  6. Ann  September 19, 2012 at 7:29 am

    It is now crystal clear that the murder of Amb. Stevens was just another vile ruse to play on raw nerves and lead to more Mideast intervention. Thank you DC traitors.


    They must be getting really desperate because they are leaving clues everywhere. Are the flying monkeys overworked, quitting, getting riffed, or just looking for a pay raise?

  7. Raptor  September 19, 2012 at 4:20 am


    The thing with 9-11, the key thing, is that they moved very very quickly to turn the event into legend, legend that they knew in advance most everyone would support. If you look back with a clear mind you can see this as being fact. It’s something that has always bothered me to no end, how, as you say, gullible people have become.

    I agree with most of what has been said here, with the exception of all out war WW111 style. Something of that kind is unnecessary to achieve the goals these assholes are trying to attain. The number 1 goal is fear, and to keep people living in fear. They work at this 24/7 and 365. It’s embarrassing to see so many fall in line, yet understandable to an extent. Most people today are too lazy, and way too soft, it’s as if their spines have turned to jelly almost overnight.

    Israel can’t attack Iran and come off Scott Free, they will take massive casualties….This is something that is being missed within the context of this line of reason. As one poster has already said, they are not stupid, they know this and it’s more likely just another poly. A sad attempt at pushing the western world one step closer to the brink.

    If things are indeed as dire as Gordon, yourself, and others have led us to believe, then I think it goes without saying that Obama has some very very tough choices to make in the coming months. I assume this business with Israel is designed to distract the administrations focus, not to mention that thing in Libya, or wherever that took place.

    On the bright side, you’d be amazed at the numbers of people who have begun to awaken from their slumber. I’m hoping that any indication that the US may actually take part in something against Iran would trigger more to snap out of it. One can hope anyway fore there’s always hope no matter how dire the circumstance.



    • Jim Fetzer  September 19, 2012 at 5:59 am

      NOTE: Most of what he says here is true, but his claim the US will not attack Iran, alas, appears to me to be false.

      WWIII Starts Sept. 25, 2012
      September 18th, 2012

      Dominique de Kevelioc de Bailleul: Speaking with Infowars’ Alex Jones, former Assistant Deputy Secretary of State Dr. Steve Pieczenik says Israel plans to attack Iran before the U.S. elections of Nov. 6., and, that an attack on Iran will assuredly kickoff WWIII, according to him.

      Moreover, Pieczenik, a man whose career inspired the character Jack Ryan of the Tom Clancy book series, says the ‘October Surprise’ will not take place in October. Instead, the big surprise will come earlier, in late September.

      Dr. Pieczenik says the specific date of the strike on Iran is Sept. 25th or 26th, Yom Kippur—the Jewish holiday, which commences in the year 2012 at sundown on the 25th, and ends at nightfall, the following day.

      “It [an Israeli attack on Iran] could be earlier than October, because we have Yom Kippur. And I predicted on your radio show, and I predicted to our national security people, privately, that Benjamin Bibi Netanyahu would start something on Rosh Hashanah,” says Pieczenick.

      “This [prediction] was over a year ago, and I said it on your radio show. He was as predictable as a clock, and the Israelis will be very predictable, on Yom Kippur,” he adds.

      Pieczenik says it’s clear to him that Israeli prime minister Bibi Netanyahu has already planned to attack Iran and has been desperately trying to enlist the U.S. to back him up. But, with or without U.S. direct help, Pieczenik is certain that Israel will attack Iran.

      Moreover, he says Netanyahu is an extremest, who will “lie” for his personal and selfish cause, a conclusion also drawn by many Israelis who protest his regime.

      “Everything Bibi is saying to the Americans and the American Jews is an absolute, unmitigated lie,” Pieczenik, a Jew, himself, says forcefully,

      “What we have here is a collusion between Saudi Arabia, neocon Jews of America and Israel, against a president, who, whether I like or dislike, and may have lied about Osama Bin Laden,” he adds, “he [President Obama] is the son . . . a son of a CIA operative, the grandson of a CIA operative, who understands very well what the issues of intelligence are.”

      With help from his neocon friends, Netanyahu threatens the entire world with the suicidal notion that Iran must be attacked, and the Israeli prime minister must be stopped, even if it means assassination, according to Pieczenik

      “In a couple of weeks, they [Israel, Saudi and neocons] will try to initiate another war, unless their ex-Mossad operatives and their ex-Shin Bet will take out Netanyahu, and do to Netanyahu what happened to Rabin,” exclaims Pieczenik. “They know what I’m talking about. Otherwise he will bring down Israel, the world, and there will be a third world war.”

      He also says, “What we are, is [sic] at the brink of war, that is being precipitated by two major countries. That is, Israel, particularly Bibi Netanyahu, who knows his country is failing economically, socially, politically.” And the other country is “Saudi Arabia.”

      Pieczenik says the Israelis, Saudis and neocons were behind the 9-11 attacks, an accusation also made some years ago by many researchers of the incident. Once considered a crazy idea forwarded by some ‘conspiracy theorists’, who seek to see a conspiracy in every major world event, the conspiracy theorists have been mostly vilified, though no reinvestigation of the 9-11 incident has been seriously proposed by any member of Congress.

      Today, the ‘conspiracy theory’, or ‘inside job’ theory, appears to be much, much closer to ‘fact’ than the account of that day was published through the official Congressional report of 9-11, giving rise to a strong possibility of a Mossad, Saudi and neocon conspiracy to carryout a false-flag attack on the United States and blame the crime on Osama bin Laden, Iraq and Afghanistan.

      Given evidence of Mossad’s checkered past and involvement with the attack of the USS Liberty on Jun. 8, 1967, killing 34 American soldiers, Pieczenik comments won’t be received as a big surprise to many Americans.

      I want Netanyahu to “begin telling the truth, that the involvement of Israel was, in 9-11” says Pieczenik. “Over 134 Mossad operatives were picked up on 9-11. The FBI picked them up [and] debriefed them. They were clearly involved with the Pakistani ISI and Saudi Arabian intelligence” on 9-11.

      And, as far as the U.S. Ambassador to Libya, Christopher Steven: he was murdered by the Israeli, Saudi Arabia and Zionist neocons cabal, according to Pieczenik.

      “The killing of the ambassador is to precipitate war, so that Israel can finally get into Iran and try to destroy Iran,” he says. “It will be the beginning of the end of Israel. It’s Armageddon for Israel,” if it attacks Iran.

      “The Pentagon source informed me the distance between the Libyan embassy, where the ambassador was, and where the rioters were, was so large, and two days of delay in response . . ., simply that they [the killers of Stevens and three other embassy employees] were professionals ready to take out our ambassador,” he adds, and with the “approval from Saudi Arabia.”

      Adding to Saudi Arabia’s involvement of the two-plane demolition job in NY City, the crash of another alleged plane into the Pentagon, and the alleged downing of another plane into the woodlands of Pennsylvania, he says, “Saudi Arabia and Israel are twins. . . . There’s no way you can separate Israel from Saudi Arabia, or Saudi Arabia from Israel. They go back all the way to 9-11.”

      Then the subject of the killing of alleged mastermind of 9-11, Osama bin Laden. According to Pieczenik, the account of Navy Seal Admiral William McRaven and President Obama regarding bin Laden’s death in Pakistan is another unmitigated “lie.”

      “Then we get to the issue of Osama Bin Laden, which Obama said incorrectly and lied to the public that Osama Bin Laden was killed by Seal Team 6,” states Pieczenik. “Admiral McRaven had lied, repeatedly—unfortunately, a decent admiral, but for whatever reason he repeatedly insisted on saying Seal Team 6 killed Osama Bin Laden.”

      Pieczenik says Bin Laden had already been dead, and McRaven had known that.

      And the names that came out of 9-11 unofficial investigation are, what Pieczenik calls, the “neocon chicken hawks” of “Paul Wolfowitz, Elliot Abrams and Michael Chertoff.”

      He adds, “Chernoff, the Chernoff Group, which is nothing more than a cover for the CIA and FBI, run by Charles Allen, a former CIA operative.”

      Moreover, U.S. intelligence was behind the uprising in Libya, the assassination of Libyan president Muammar al-Gaddafi, and the murder of U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens, according to Pieczenik.

      “Why this particular ambassador,” Pieczenik asks, rhetorically. “I think it’s very important for your audience to understand . . . Stevens was an ‘Arabist’. . . ”

      He goes on to explain to the Infowars listeners that so-called Arabists are experts of Arabic culture, language and Arab history. But, these State Dept. professionals also could pose a threat to Israel’s ongoing propaganda war in a long-standing effort to elicit sympathy for the Jewish state.

      Israel is no friend of America, according to Pieczenik.

      He says, “From a geopolitical point of view, Israel is a strategic liability and has been a strategic liability for over 20 years. Since 1968, we have had no need for Israel other than the fact it covered us under the Soviet Union on the eastern, southern and northern flank.”

      Presently, Israel is engaged in an all-out “provocation propaganda” campaign, according to Pieczenik, with the knee-jerk accusation from Netanyahu of Iranian involvement in the tourist bus explosion in Bulgaria, as the most recent and egregious example. The Bulgarian bus bomb incident is still under investigation.

      But the Obama Administration won’t bite to being drawn into another unpopular war—following the failures, war crimes and lies surrounding the attack of Iraq and Afghanistan by the Bush Administration.

      “Netanyahu has no idea that Petreus will not save him; Dempsey will not save him; our Navy will not save him; McRaven will not save him; neither will Obama,” states Pieczenik. “He cannot get that message through, so he’s pushing this through until he kills one of our ambassadors, precipitate what we call ‘provocation propaganda’, only with the approval of Saudi Arabia.”

      Yom Kippur falls on the dates Sept. 25 and 26. Watch for those dates, says Pieczenik.

      Read more at http://marketdailynews.com/2012/09/18/former-state-dept-veteran-drops-bombshell-wwiii-starts-sept-25-2012/#okfTH6YdyRwMzSXZ.99

    • Gerry  September 19, 2012 at 7:36 am


      Having listened to Pieczenik several times now over the last year I’m wondering what is the general consensus about his veracity amongst you guys at VT. He certainly gives the appearance of sincerity in his presentation. One concern for me is his venue being Infowars.com. Even Alex Jones who refused to acknowledge for many years any Israeli connection to 911 has recently begun to act like he’s been unleashed on the Zionists. Of course as I believe it was Stalin who said, If you want to control the opposition, you need to be the opposition.

      So I guess my question boils down to; Is Steve Pieczenik a real “self hating Jew” or a master Mossadnik in your opinion?

    • Jim Fetzer  September 19, 2012 at 8:32 am

      It was Lenin who observed, “The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves!” I think he is very honest and has run risks by revealing that he was told after 9/11 that it had been a “false flag” operation to induce the public to support wars of aggression in Afghanistan and Iraq. I wish that I could believe that the US “won’t be drawn into another unpopular war”. Obama needs plausible deniability. The administration has opposed the invalidation of the indefinite detention provisions of NDAA, which were blatantly unConstitutional on their face and take us back to a time prior to the Magna Carta. I am also stunned that DHS continues to acquire more and more ammunition: what conceivable reason can it have for stocking more than 1.5 BILLION ROUNDS of .40 hollow point, which is not even permissible for use in warfare under the Geneva Conventions?

      DHS does not engage in operations abroad; therefore, it has to be for operations within the borders of the USA. That enormous quantity would require absurd storage were it not to be used in the near term. Between the FEMA camps and the surveillance (probably predator) drones being authorized here (for no other discernible reason), I think we have to bite the bullet and acknowledge that THE US GOVERNMENT IS PREPARING TO GO TO WAR WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. It has to be anticipating some cause of massive unrest and actual uprising by ordinary citizens, which could come from (1) the collapse of our economic system (where our bank accounts are vacated), (2) masses with Fukushima-induced radiation sickness (becoming like a vast class of Zombies), or (3) the nation is decimated by nuclear retaliation (and the public ravaging for its own survival).

      There is too much belief in the infallibility of technology, alas, where Bibi may believe that the “Iron Dome” protects Israel and the Joint Chiefs may believe that satellite-mounted lasers and AEGIS cruiser electronic-warfare capabilities are going to prevail against even the sophisticated anti-ship missiles in the Iranian arsenal. The use of an Israeli sub to sink the USS Enterprise and blame Iran gives Obama his “free pass” for committing the greatest atrocity in human history. Estimates have an attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities at 1,000,000 dead outright and another 35,000,000 premature deaths as the contamination spreads across Afghanistan, Pakistan, and India. But that is not counting the additional millions of US citizens in response.

      My best guess is that Pieczenik is honest as the day is long but has been induced to believe the US won’t go along, whereas we are already taking measures in anticipation of a retaliatory nuclear assault. Bibi’s assassination might stop it in its tracks, but I doubt that will happen. The Israel’s are going to torpedo an old ship, ready for the scrap-heap, the Iranians and the Russians will respond and most of us are going to be casualties in the greatest nightmare to befall the human race. It will fulfill Curtis Lemay’s fondest wish in believing that a nuclear war is “winnable”, but I think JFK got it right when he surmised that would be a war in which the living will envy the dead. I wish it were otherwise and hope that I am wrong, but that is how I see it.

    • Gerry  September 19, 2012 at 9:46 am

      Thanks for taking the time to respond. FWIW I don’t consider your worldview pessimistic. I’m someone who considers Murphy an optimist. And I share your concerns. Thanks for the correction about the Bolshevik truism. It’s a shame that they were much more prescient than the average American in their observations of “Democracy”.

    • duay khwaam nap theuu  September 19, 2012 at 7:12 pm

      United Nations False-Flag Terror Attack Planned For New York City?

      The Sep 26, in New York City meeting date also falls on Yom Kippur which completes the annual period known in Judaism as the Yamim Nora’im or “Days of Awe”. Historically, events involving U.S., Israeli and Iranian presidents are scheduled months in advance, but not this time. Just two days after the failed 2012 DNC Terror Plot [link], potentially the most high profile UN meeting ever was scheduled…

      The World Headquarters of the United Nations is scheduled to host the leaders of Israel and Iran and U.S. President Obama. In addition, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, French President Francois Hollande and U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron are also scheduled to attend the U.N. forum. […]

      Given the current geopolitical climate, there is a real possibility that the United Nations’ World Headquarters in New York City, which is currently “under construction”, may be the site of a major false-flag terror attack. […]


    • Jim Fetzer  September 19, 2012 at 7:15 pm

      Yes, that is entirely possible as a fall-back if a false-flag attack on Iran does not occur on the 25th. Nice conjecture.

    • Jim Fetzer  September 19, 2012 at 10:10 am

      Raptor, thanks for this thoughtful post. Misplaced faith in modern technology can be more than seductive. A formalist movement in computer science, for example, has long held that the performance of a computerized system when it executes a program can be predicted with complete confidence when the program has been subjected to formal verification by means of a correctness proof. As I explained in “Program Verification: The Very Idea” (1988), it is not even theoretically possible that that should be the case, since it mistakes abstract contexts and virtual machines for causal contexts and physical machines.

      But it is the kind of false belief that can engender rash actions. In this case, the “Iron Dome” we have provided Israel may have led Netanyahu to believe that his small country is invulnerable to missile attacks. US belief in satellite technology and its “Star Wars” ability to laser and destroy missiles in flight, which I believe was exercised against North Korea recently, can further bolster that confidence. The presence of the U.S.S. Enterprise, which is ready for the scrap heap, appears to have been brought to the Persian Gulf to serve as as a prime target for a “false flag” attack by an Israeli submarine.

      There are reasons to believe that our own military is taking steps to protect itself against nuclear retaliation. My belief is that an assault has been planned for 25 September 2012, Yom Kippur, to launch the Jewish New Year in spectacular fashion. Iran and Russia (and possibly China, too) are going to retaliate with a massive response. We in the USA are not going to be spared. There is still the grotesque attitude among military minds that nuclear wars are “winnable”. Every human being, not just every American, should be required to watch “Dr. Strangelove” annually as a reminder of its complete insanity

    • duay khwaam nap theuu  September 19, 2012 at 3:45 pm

      Or watch and listen to the facts in this:
      larouchepac.com/ww3 (Just paste it in address bar and hit enter.)
      The video report is entitled “Unsurvivable.”

  8. Mike Kay  September 18, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    Mr. Fetzer,

    I do believe that the demonizing of Islam began decades ago. The “oil crisis” of the Carter admin. The airliners “hijacked”, always by Muslims.

    Perhaps it is even older, going back to the Crusades, the Janissaries, England’s destruction of the Ottomans for control of oil.

    Strategically, today’s Islamic countries were artificial creations of the British Empire, a successful act of dividing and conquering. Today, they are struggling with this yoke few of them recall ever having to wear. Islamic countries are perfect targets for a corrupt war machine. Why, if they didn’t exist, they would have to be invented! Small nations lacking the capital to fully attend to their own needs, with savage ruling classes, providing the perfect excuse for endless regime change. How many times have we heard it said…well, maybe there were no WMD’s, but hey, we got rid of Saddam, and he was a bad guy!

    America loves its boogeyman, and this fictional nemesis is today the Muslim terrorist. This amazing enemy sprouts up like mushrooms after a rain, populating country after country, and-so the story goes- forcing us to go and kill them. See how far you get challenging this narrative among the ranks of the “average American”.

    Today, 9/11 is becoming a yawn for average America. The story is told, the propaganda has taken hold, and hardly a word of truth is allowed in.

    I do find it perplexing, to be living in a country where the populace is so in love with fiction, that they embrace it as a central ideology.

    • Jim Fetzer  September 18, 2012 at 8:26 pm

      I think you have it right. As an illustration, check out “9/11: Have we been bamboozled?” First published in COMMON GROUND, it’s also here at Veterans Today, http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/06/29/911-have-we-been-bamboozled-2/ The American public has been gullible and has been played for saps. It is unbelievably disgusting–but the proof is overwhelming!

    • Mike Kay  September 19, 2012 at 8:59 pm

      Mr. Fetzer,

      Yes sir, I agree with your assessment that the evidence nullifying the official propaganda line is overwhelming. I also commend you and your associates for working tirelessly to collect, codify, and explain this evidence. This is, in my opinion, the work of true patriots.

      I consistently make time to read your reports here on VT, they are well worth it.

      A moment of explanation: I expressed my frustration above, at the intellectually lazy, and those so thoroughly propagandized, especially by “talk radio” pundits, that they are incapable of normal thought.

      Yes, we are played for suckers constantly here in America, yet it remains endlessly mystifying how people can so easily accept an impossible fictitious chain of events, unquestioningly, and today look on with distant boredom at 9/11.

      Sometimes I wonder, is it some primal fear that keeps the public supporting the official lie? Is it the terror of having to face the fact that one’s own government will happily murder as many citizens as necessary to achieve its goals? Is it the evasion of responsibility to face the moral and ethical failures of our leadership?

      Maybe its the cold comfort of finally seeing all the propaganda, all the rhetoric, for what it is, with the inevitable stark question of what to do next?

      My only comfort is that there are people who do not follow the propaganda line, who speak and demand the truth, and who will not surrender to the puppet masters who orchestrate false flag disasters like 9/11.

    • ricohands  September 21, 2012 at 6:22 am

      Brilliant comments Mike Kay

  9. brucetylerwick  September 18, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    It’s difficult to say what has brought the world to this precipice. In terms of misplaced power, it was surely the nuclear arming of Israel. I mean, what is to prevent Israel from simply nuking Iran, or any other non-nuclear state, to induce its capitulation and its subsequent vassalage?

    • Jim Fetzer  September 18, 2012 at 8:02 pm

      David Ben-Gurion resigned as Israel’s leader in disgust when JFK would not support the acquisition of nuclear weapons by Israel. Were Iran to possess them too, it would bring about an era of stability to the Middle East, just as the nuclear stand-off between the US and the USSR led to the “Cold War”, which was itself an era of peaceful co-existence.

  10. Jim Fetzer  September 18, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    Thanks, Yusef. Semper Fi! (Strictly speaking, an expression only between Marines, but I appreciate your usage here.)

    • Loneranger  September 18, 2012 at 9:28 pm

      Strictly speaking…..Semper Fidelis, Latin for “Always Faithful” or “Always Loyal”, has a long history as a motto for families and organisations and including the United States Marine…..

    • Jim Fetzer  September 18, 2012 at 9:34 pm

      Good catch: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semper_fidelis I am glad to exchange that greeting across the board with those who have earned it!

  11. Charlotte NC Bill  September 18, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    http://www.jimstonefreelance.com has an almost equally good take on these shenanigans….(Of course, I’m partial to Fetzer….Semper Fi!)

    • Jim Fetzer  September 18, 2012 at 6:12 pm

      Thanks, Bill. Semper Fi!

  12. Charlotte NC Bill  September 18, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    Sitting in a pizzeria a couple hrs ago I listened to a little of the lame conversation of the table next to mine..Someone mentioned what’s happening in Afghnstn…some lady sd “we should throw pork at them..” Idiot…They were parishioners at the local Novus Ordo Vatican II “catholic” church….Sure, they got scammed by Vatican II and the New Mass why wouldn’t they be scammed by 9-11, the GWOT, the creation of the mythological “al-quaeda’ organization, the mid-air pulverizations of the Towers and everything else…

  13. ricohands  September 18, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    90% of what most Americans think they know about Islam comes straight out of the usurping zionist entity propaganda & via the Israeli Consulate in NYC.

    • ricohands  September 21, 2012 at 6:18 am

      Copy and pasted From a great comment on YT:
      “The enemy of the Jews is Zionism. They have no compunctions in destroying Hebrews and Semites. Zionists are largely Ashkenazi “Jews” from Khazaria. They adopted this deception in 740 AD.”Juri Lina, In The Shadow of Hermes”. “NWO, Secret Societies and Biblical Prophecy”; “The President Who Told The Truth” all on YT. Marx, Lenin, Trotsky and Engels were not “Atheists”, but practicing Satanists, Freemasons, and followers of the Kabbalah, the Zohar and the Talmud.”

  14. lola  September 18, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    You are correct again. This is another sad yet successful PsyOp by the Zion Narco Kabal(ah). This saber rattling is especially colorful as it is an Election Year. Remember in 2008 June Israel was buzzing it’s planes all over the Mediterranean? This may be the same crap again. The reality of Israel bombing Iran or even False Flagging is remote. There are other subtle gains made when they do this Ritual. They get favors in the State Dept (AIPAC) and other silent concessions that we never hear about. It is all done under the table. I will be surprised if anything happens. If Israel attacks or Flags Iran, Iran can inflict a lot of damage on Israel and Russian and China have a say in this. Nutty-Yahoo knows this and he is not stupid. I think this is how Israel fills its pockets during Election Time. In short, Israel Sucks. The fallout on the Muslim world is epic. I am not falling for it. No Way.
    Your Friend

    • ricohands  September 21, 2012 at 6:16 am

      And don’t forget Op Cast lead last election.

  15. Jim Fetzer  September 19, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    This is a pointless post. Historically, the Marine Corps has been the most professional and the least political of the services. In my time, it was honorable to serve your country, but I certainly agree that the American military has been used to promote the profit motives of corporations, as Gen. Smedley Butler wrote in WAR IS A RACKET.

  16. stephanwilliams  September 20, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    “Historically, the Marine Corps has been the most professional and the least political of the services.”

    Mr. Fetzer, Have you read, “War is a Racket”, authored by a Real American Hero, General Smedley Butler? (http://www.twf.org/News/Y2001/0911-Racket.html)

    Sure you have…So your comment: ” Historically, the Marine Corps has been the most professional and the least political of the services.” is nonsensical.

    Military misadventures are always directed by corrupted old men who learned early to manipulate hate as a means of gaining power over stupid and/or uninformed people.And they always use the elite unites of their military to do their dirty deeds.

    Political manipulators, controlled by evil outside interests always direct the armed forces to do the bidding of their Masters in every country on the planet unless that country is controlled by the military itself.

    You have to know this. So why are you misrepresenting the facts?

  17. Jim Fetzer  September 20, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    I appears to be my fate to have to deal with endless air-heads and nit-wits. The man who would write this has no experience with military service and does not comprehend the notion of a “chain of command”. Are you aware that the Commandant of the Marine Corps, for example, is not the Commander in Chief?

    Military forces are instruments or “tools”, to make it simple enough for you. Historically, the Marine Corps has in fact been the most professional and the least political of the services. But that instrument or tool has often been abused for political reasons, just as Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler observed. Don’t you get it?

    Smedley was complaining that his force, the US Marine Corps, has been abused, again and again, to prop up the profit margin of American and international corporations. Get a grip. I have seldom had to deal with a post of this degree of ignorance. What I said was true. What you wrote was very, very stupid.

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