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Steve Pieczenik: World War III starts 25 September 2012

by Jim Fetzer

 

Dr. Steve Pieczenik, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State in three administrations, who earned his Ph.D. at MIT, has revealed that he has been told by a high-ranking general–whom I believe to have been Gen. Richard Myers–that 9/11 was a “false flag” attack, which was done by the government in order to arouse the American people to support wars of aggression in Afghanistan and Iraq. On Alex Jones, he has now asserted that Israel is going to attack Iran on Yom Kippur, which begins on Tuesday, 25 September 2012. He insists that Barack Obama and Benjamin Netanyahu are at odds over this, where Obama and the Pentagon are opposed to any such attack. I think Pieczenik is very honest and has run risks by revealing that he was told it had been a “false flag” operation to induce the public to support wars of aggression in Afghanistan and Iraq.

I wish that I could believe that the US “won’t be drawn into another unpopular war”. Given the coming November presidential elections, however, where a new war in the Middle East would be overwhelmingly unpopular with the American public, Obama needs plausible deniability, which means that it must appear to the public as though this engagement was initiated by Iran, where the most likely scenario has an Israeli sub torpedo the USS Enterprise, our first nuclear-powered carrier, and blame it on Iran. This would not be the first example of monumental hypocisy by Obama. The administration, for example, has opposed the invalidation of the indefinite detention provisions of NDAA, which were blatantly unConstitutional on their face and take us back to a time prior to the Magna Carta. I am also stunned that DHS continues to acquire more and more ammunition: what conceivable reason can it have for stocking more than 1.5 BILLION ROUNDS of .40 hollow point, which is not even permissible for use in warfare under the Geneva Conventions?

DHS does not engage in operations abroad; therefore, it has to be for operations within the borders of the USA. That enormous quantity would require absurd storage were it not to be used in the near term. Between the FEMA camps and the surveillance (probably predator) drones being authorized here (for no other discernible reason), we have to bite the bullet and acknowledge that our own government, THE US GOVERNMENT, IS PREPARING TO GO TO WAR WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. It has to be anticipating some cause of massive unrest and actual uprising by ordinary citizens, which could come from (1) the collapse of our economic system (where our bank accounts are vacated), (2) masses with Fukushima-induced radiation sickness (becoming like a vast class of Zombies), or (3) the nation is decimated by nuclear retaliation as a consequence of an attack on Iran (and the public is ravaging for its own survival). The third, at present, appears to me to be the most probable.

Circumstantial Proof

Bear in mind that Iran has not attacked any other country for more than 300 years. Iran has signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) and has allowed inspectors into its facilities. Iran has disavowed the pursuit of nuclear weapons, even though it is my belief that it is entitled to have them and that, as in the case of the “Cold War”, where mutually assured destruction of the US of the USSR and of the US by the USSR ushered in a period of stability that endured for nearly fifty years, it would bring greater stability to the Middle East. Israel, by comparison, has 200-600 or more of these little beauties. Israel has refused to sign the NPT. Israel will not allow inspectors into its own facilities. Israel has refused to participate in a conference in Finland to discuss the nuclear disarmament of the Middle East, for the obvious reason that Israel wants nuclear disarmament for every country in the Middle East except Israel! If an attack where imminent, then we would expect Israeli shills to be attempting (again) to demonize Iran and its leaders as a threat to the world, where Ed Koch is fulfilling that role:

Iran Will Attack U.S. if It Gets Nuclear Weapons

By Edward Koch

The New York Times of Sept. 17 reported that “in Iran, the commander of the powerful Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari, took the unusual step of holding a news conference on Sunday to warn that ‘nothing will remain’ in Israel if it or any other nation launches attacks against his country.

“He said that Iran and its allies — presumably Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in Gaza — would retaliate at Israel’s borders, as would Iran itself in Israel and beyond, targeting American military bases in the Persian Gulf and shutting down the Strait of Hormuz,” according to the newspaper.

The Times goes on to report: “Iran has often threatened to counter any attack, but the general’s threats were unusually specific and signaled Iran’s intent to turn any possible attack into a regional conflict. ‘Our response to Israel is clear: I think nothing will remain of Israel,’ General Jafari said, according to an account by The Associated Press. ‘Given Israel’s small land area and its vulnerability to a massive volume of Iran’s missiles, I don’t think any spot in Israel will remain safe.’ General Jafari also confirmed, in what appeared to be the clearest terms so far, that some high-level advisers from his elite unit were working in Syria and Lebanon, underscoring how deeply intertwined the many conflicts in the region have become.”

So now we have one of Iran’s top generals joining the president of Iran in calling for the destruction of Israel. The Iranian general threatens Israel’s total demise and destruction “if [Israel] or any other nation launches attacks against his country.” The Iranian president’s longstanding calls for Israel’s destruction have always been unconditional.

Israel is normally referred to by Iranian government officials as the “little Satan” and the U.S. as the “big Satan.”

You can be sure that if and when Iran develops a nuclear bomb and a rocket capable of reaching the U.S., we here in the U.S. will be at risk simply because we exist. The fanatic Muslims engaged in jihad against Western civilization have as their goal the total destruction of Western civilization which they both envy and hate. Their ultimate objective is to convert the world to Islam.

How dumb are we supposed to be? What conceivable reason would there be for Iran to attack the United States? There is too much belief in the infallibility of technology, alas, where Bibi may believe that the “Iron Dome” protects Israel and the Joint Chiefs may believe that satellite-mounted lasers and AEGIS cruiser electronic-warfare capabilities are going to prevail against even the sophisticated anti-ship missiles in the Iranian arsenal. The use of an Israeli sub to sink the USS Enterprise and blame Iran gives Obama his “free pass” for committing the greatest atrocity in human history. Estimates have an attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities at 1,000,000 dead outright and another 35,000,000 premature deaths as the contamination spreads across Afghanistan, Pakistan, and India. But that is not counting the additional millions of US citizens in response.

Situation Assessment

My best guess is that Pieczenik is honest as the day is long but has been induced to believe the US won’t go along, whereas we are already taking measures in anticipation of a retaliatory nuclear assault. Bibi’s assassination might stop it in its tracks, but I doubt that will happen. The Israel’s are going to torpedo an old ship, ready for the scrap-heap, the Iranians and the Russians will respond and most of us are going to be casualties in the greatest nightmare to befall the human race. It will fulfill Curtis Lemay’s fondest wish in believing that a nuclear war is “winnable”, but I think JFK got it right when he surmised that would be a war in which the living will envy the dead. I wish it were otherwise and hope that I am wrong, but that is how I see it.

Pieczenik is not being allowed back on the air with Alex Jones. Our B-1 and B-2 bombers, I have been informed, have been transferred to within striking range of Iran–and the B-2s are now equipped with MOPs (Massive Ordnance Penetrators), 30,000 bombs designed for deep penetration before they explode. And Navy bases are taking steps to protect resources that would be damaged by air-borne detonations during an expected nuclear retaliation. My belief is that an assault has been planned for 25 September 2012, Yom Kippur, to launch the Jewish holy day in spectacular fashion. Iran and Russia (and possibly China, too) are going to retaliate with a massive response. We in the USA are not going to be spared. There is still the grotesque attitude among military minds that nuclear wars are “winnable”. Every human being, not just every American, should be required to watch “Dr. Strangelove” annually as a reminder of its complete insanity.

In addition to the hysterical ravings of Ed Koch, the GOP appears to want to Carterize Barack Obama by saddling him with difficulties in the Middle East that parallel the Iranian hostage crisis that cost him the election with Ronald Reagan, which is why Mitt Romney has been placing so many of his eggs in the foreign policy basket. He and Bibbi turn out to be close friends, where Netanyahu may believe that he will be in the position to dictate US foreign policy if Romney should be elected. How many Americans fall for this rubbish may be difficult to calculate, but it is not difficult to discern that Ed Koch is playing a propagandistic role here in attempting to induce the false belief that Iran poses a threat to the US and Israel, when it is the US and Israel that pose a threat to Iran–and to their own nation’s residents. Iran has never threatened “to wipe Israel off the map” and the general was obviously discussing a response to an attack upon Iran by Israel and not reiterating a deliberate mistranslation that has been used as an instrument of disinformation for far too long.

THE INTERVIEW WITH STEVE PIECZENIK: WWIII Starts 25 September 2012
September 18th, 2012by Dominique de Kevelioc de Bailleul

Steve Pieczenik

Speaking with Infowars’ Alex Jones, former Assistant Deputy Secretary of StateDr. Steve Pieczenik says Israel plans to attack Iran before the U.S. elections of Nov. 6., and, that an attack on Iran will assuredly kickoff WWIII, according to him.

Moreover, Pieczenik, a man whose career inspired the character Jack Ryan of the Tom Clancy book series, says the ‘October Surprise’ will not take place in October. Instead, the big surprise will come earlier, in late September.

Dr. Pieczenik says the specific date of the strike on Iran is Sept. 25th or 26th, Yom Kippur—the Jewish holiday, which commences in the year 2012 at sundown on the 25th, and ends at nightfall, the following day.

“It [an Israeli attack on Iran] could be earlier than October, because we have Yom Kippur. And I predicted on your radio show, and I predicted to our national security people, privately, that Benjamin Bibi Netanyahu would start something on Rosh Hashanah,” says Pieczenick.

“This [prediction] was over a year ago, and I said it on your radio show. He was as predictable as a clock, and the Israelis will be very predictable, on Yom Kippur,” he adds.

Pieczenik says it’s clear to him that Israeli prime minister Bibi Netanyahu has already planned to attack Iran and has been desperately trying to enlist the U.S. to back him up. But, with or without U.S. direct help, Pieczenik is certain that Israel will attack Iran.

Moreover, he says Netanyahu is an extremest, who will “lie” for his personal and selfish cause, a conclusion also drawn by many Israelis who protest his regime.

“Everything Bibi is saying to the Americans and the American Jews is an absolute, unmitigated lie,” Pieczenik, a Jew, himself, says forcefully,

“What we have here is a collusion between Saudi Arabia, neocon Jews of America and Israel, against a president, who, whether I like or dislike, and may have lied about Osama Bin Laden,” he adds, “he [President Obama] is the son . . . a son of a CIA operative, the grandson of a CIA operative, who understands very well what the issues of intelligence are.”

Benjamin Netanyahu

With help from his neocon friends, Netanyahu threatens the entire world with the suicidal notion that Iran must be attacked, and the Israeli prime minister must be stopped, even if it means assassination, according to Pieczenik

“In a couple of weeks, they [Israel, Saudi and neocons] will try to initiate another war, unless their ex-Mossad operatives and their ex-Shin Bet will take out Netanyahu, and do to Netanyahu what happened to Rabin,” exclaims Pieczenik. “They know what I’m talking about. Otherwise he will bring down Israel, the world, and there will be a third world war.”

He also says, “What we are, is [sic] at the brink of war, that is being precipitated by two major countries. That is, Israel, particularly Bibi Netanyahu, who knows his country is failing economically, socially, politically.” And the other country is “Saudi Arabia.”

Pieczenik says the Israelis, Saudis and neocons were behind the 9/11 attacks, an accusation also made some years ago by many researchers of the incident. Once considered a crazy idea forwarded by some ‘conspiracy theorists’, who seek to see a conspiracy in every major world event, the conspiracy theorists have been mostly vilified, though no reinvestigation of the 9/11 incident has been seriously proposed by any member of Congress.

Today, the ‘conspiracy theory’, or ‘inside job’ theory, appears to be much, much closer to ‘fact’ than the account of that day was published through the official Congressional report of 9/11, giving rise to a strong possibility of a Mossad, Saudi and neocon conspiracy to carryout a false-flag attack on the United States and blame the crime on Osama bin Laden, Iraq and Afghanistan.

Given evidence of Mossad’s checkered past and involvement with the attack of the USS Liberty on Jun. 8, 1967, killing 34 American soldiers, Pieczenik comments won’t be received as a big surprise to many Americans.

I want Netanyahu to “begin telling the truth, that the involvement of Israel was, in 9/11” says Pieczenik. “Over 134 Mossad operatives were picked up on 9/11. The FBI picked them up [and] debriefed them. They were clearly involved with the Pakistani ISI and Saudi Arabian intelligence” on 9-11. [See "James H. Fetzer: Mossad Played Crucial Role in 9/11 Attacks".]

Christopher Steven

And, as far as the U.S. Ambassador to Libya, Christopher Steven: he was murdered by the Israeli, Saudi Arabia and Zionist neocons cabal, according to Pieczenik. [See "'Innocence of Muslims, the GOP and World War III".]“The killing of the ambassador is to precipitate war, so that Israel can finally get into Iran and try to destroy Iran,” he says. “It will be the beginning of the end of Israel. It’s Armageddon for Israel,” if it attacks Iran.“The Pentagon source informed me the distance between the Libyan embassy, where the ambassador was, and where the rioters were, was so large, and two days of delay in response . . ., simply that they [the killers of Stevens and three other embassy employees] were professionals ready to take out our ambassador,” he adds, and with the “approval from Saudi Arabia.”Adding to Saudi Arabia’s involvement of the two-plane demolition job in NY City, the crash of another alleged plane into the Pentagon, and the alleged downing of another plane into the woodlands of Pennsylvania, he says, “Saudi Arabia and Israel are twins. . . . There’s no way you can separate Israel from Saudi Arabia, or Saudi Arabia from Israel. They go back all the way to 9/11.”[But see "9/11 Truth will out: The Vancouver Hearings I" and "9/11 Truth will out: The Vancouver Hearings II".]

Then the subject of the killing of alleged mastermind of 9/11, Osama bin Laden. According to Pieczenik, the account of Navy Seal Admiral William McRaven and President Obama regarding bin Laden’s death in Pakistan is another unmitigated “lie.”

Osama bin Laden

“Then we get to the issue of Osama Bin Laden, which Obama said incorrectly and lied to the public that Osama Bin Laden was killed by Seal Team 6,” states Pieczenik. “Admiral McRaven had lied, repeatedly—unfortunately, a decent admiral, but for whatever reason he repeatedly insisted on saying Seal Team 6 killed Osama Bin Laden.”Pieczenik says Bin Laden had already been dead, and McRaven had known that. [See "Osama bin Laden: 1957-2001".]And the names that came out of 9-11 unofficial investigation are, what Pieczenik calls, the “neocon chicken hawks” of “Paul Wolfowitz, Elliot Abrams and Michael Chertoff.”He adds, “Chernoff, the Chernoff Group, which is nothing more than a cover for the CIA and FBI, run by Charles Allen, a former CIA operative.”

Moreover, U.S. intelligence was behind the uprising in Libya, the assassination of Libyan president Muammar al-Gaddafi, and the murder of U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens, according to Pieczenik.

“Why this particular ambassador,” Pieczenik asks, rhetorically. “I think it’s very important for your audience to understand . . . Stevens was an ‘Arabist’. . . ”

He goes on to explain to the Infowars listeners that so-called Arabists are experts of Arabic culture, language and Arab history. But, these State Dept. professionals also could pose a threat to Israel’s ongoing propaganda war in a long-standing effort to elicit sympathy for the Jewish state.

Israel is no friend of America, according to Pieczenik.

He says, “From a geopolitical point of view, Israel is a strategic liability and has been a strategic liability for over 20 years. Since 1968, we have had no need for Israel other than the fact it covered us under the Soviet Union on the eastern, southern and northern flank.”

Barack Hussein Obama

Presently, Israel is engaged in an all-out “provocation propaganda” campaign, according to Pieczenik, with the knee-jerk accusation from Netanyahu of Iranian involvement in the tourist bus explosion in Bulgaria, as the most recent and egregious example. The Bulgarian bus bomb incident is still under investigation.

But the Obama Administration won’t bite to being drawn into another unpopular war—following the failures, war crimes and lies surrounding the attack of Iraq and Afghanistan by the Bush Administration. [NOTE: This, I believe, is false: "'Innocence of Muslims', the GOP and World War III".]“Netanyahu has no idea that Petreus will not save him; Dempsey will not save him; our Navy will not save him; McRaven will not save him; neither will Obama,” states Pieczenik.“He cannot get that message through, so he’s pushing this through until he kills one of our ambassadors, precipitate what we call ‘provocation propaganda’, only with the approval of Saudi Arabia.”Yom Kippur falls on the dates Sept. 25 and 26. Watch for those dates, says Pieczenik.

 


Jim Fetzer, a former Marine Corps officer, is McKnight Professor Emeritus at the University of Minnesota Duluth. The founder of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, he has published 29 books and hundreds of articles on philosophical, scientific and political issues of our time.

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74 Comments for “Steve Pieczenik: World War III starts 25 September 2012”

  1. Sept 25 came and went and nothing happened. This is starting to feel like Harold Camping.

    • The threat is real. Has it crossed your mind that all this publicity might have cut it off? Do you seriously not understand that the point of discussing it is to expose it in the hope that it would be too embarrassing to do it? Egad, man. What do you think? That we are recommending a “false flag” attack? Look at this:

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      • When persons possess knowledge that might make the difference between war and peace, especially on this scale, would you prefer they remain silent? I am sorry, but your attitude strikes me as both ignorant and immoral. The point is TO MAKE THE EFFORT, EVEN IF ITS EFFECTS MAY BE DIFFICULT OR IMPOSSIBLE TO ASSESS. We are still here–and in my opinion, a lot of the credit for that being the case goes to Steve Pieczenik!

    • Not everyone is willing to go down in history as the Adolf Hitler of their time. This would have been one of the greatest atrocities of world history, with 1,000,000 Iranian deaths outright and 35,000,000 more premature deaths as the wave of radioactive contamination swept across Afghanistan, Pakistan and India–not to mention the millions of Americans who would have been incinerated! It could not have been done without US complicity, where some of us seem to have a stronger sense of rationality and morality than you and Benjamin Netanyahu!

      Bear in mind that you are completely ignoring the evidence: setting up the armada, including the Enterprise, moving the bombers, producing the MOPs, announcing the Iranian sub launch, the Israeli sub capability, preping bases for nuclear attacks, shills speaking out, Bibi’s hysterics and more–when Iran has not attacked any other country for more than 300 years, has disavowed nuclear weapons, has signed the NPT, allows inspectors, none of which is true of Israel. Believe what you want, but logic and evidence are on my side, not yours.

  2. Here is an old story that assumes new meaning:

    Did Israel Bomb the U.S.S. Cole? It Looks Like It

    Posted By: billym
    Date: Sunday, 6-Oct-2002 16:36:20
    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=23860

    Breaking story, from What Really Happened….
    ==========================================

    Did Israel Bomb the U.S.S. Cole? It Looks Like It
    All of America, Muslims and non-Muslims have grieved for the innocent Americans killed in the attack on the USS Cole. An important Muslims cleric in Detroit, MI explained that Muslims fight only combatants, not innocents. This brings us to something strange and very important in our report to you.

    Some disturbing new information has come from some of our confidential sources in Washington, DC; it appears that the bomb making materials used in the bomb, known as D 4, that blew a hole in the U.S.S. Cole could only have come from the U.S. or from Israel.

    This has alarmed the FBI and its director, Mr. Louis Freeh. Various bomb experts in the CIA have raised new questions about the Mossad (Israeli’s Secret Service). Once expert on counter-terrorism and espionage told our reporter that Israel killed its own ambassador to London, England in l982 in order to use that as a pretext to attack Lebanon. There have been other incidents this source disclosed but he could only speak of them off the record. As he said, “It’s part of an old game, you do something that appears to come from an enemy, in order to make that alleged enemy look worse; in this case, Israel may have done it to make the Muslims and Arabs look bad, especially in light of the warming American-Yemen relationship.” Thus, there are some intelligence sources that are starting to have questions about the people involved in the bombing.

    Further questions have been raised because the two men mentioned, “looked like Arabs” but there papers were false—another Mossad move that has been used to blame others in the past. The CIA agent explained that many Jews, especially those Sephardic Jews who grew up in the Middle East, look like Arabs; thus, they would be perfect for such a mission.

    Our reporters in Washington, DC will stay on top of this story so that we may get to the bottom of what now appears to be a very interesting and perhaps explosive situation. It may very well be that Israel was behind the bombing of the USS Cole and not Islamic militants—especially since no Muslim group has claimed responsibility or wanted credit for this dastardly act.

  3. Thank you Jim for an astonishing article. Mr. Piecenvik’s are some of the most fearless comments ever. I am still stunned days later that he made those statements, which echo the Op Ed by Andrew Adler from the opposite point of view. It reveals deep ructions in US/ Israel relationship that the worthless controlled press never mention. (I wonder why?) Bibi has gone too far this time and his candidate is doomed. The frightening thing is that Bibi’s best option now may be to do as Mr. P. suggests and risk all on a pre-election strike.

  4. Just maybe we should with draw all of naval forces from the firing line between israel and Iran to avoid the possibility of another Liberty type event. It would also send a clear message to israel that we will NOT support any such attack on Iran. We also need to take away from israel access to any intel data they might be getting from US sources on Iran’s military activities. As it has been stated here and other places I have seen it said that Iran has not started a war in over 300 years. And for us to except the word of israel that Iran is this monster global terror organization is totally foolhardy and we should tell israel to show us the real data and triple check all of it’s sources. We also need to stop using all computer systems and software made by israeli companies in any of our defense systems or in any of our major communications systems including those programs used for cell phone billing are made and operated by those extremists in israel. The NSA, CIA, DOD and FBI all use software made and controlled in israel for tracking and spying on people and organizations. With them being the war mongers they are how can we trust any of the data about Iran produced by these programs/systems they made and control? Might they be ensuring that the data comes out in their favor to get the US into this war for them? And it seems very clear that israel will do whatever it takes to get us to fight their wars for them, they had one of their operatives “blow” the president to keep US support for israel “coming” in, I will just say does Monica ring a bell? They also had their operatives within the CIA “blow away” our president in 1963 to keep funding for israel from being cut off. I guess Wet Willie decided that it was better to be blown than blown away. Israel is more vile than Nazi Germany ever was or could have been. The SS were Boy Scouts compared to what the Mossad does and has done.

  5. Why is everyone knocking Alex Jones? Just consider “zionists” and “globalists” to be synonymous -so what if he wants to stay away from blaming things on Israel and the Jews -read between the lines -you can figure things out. Alex’s life is always in danger -people are breaking into his home and cutting gas lines. Give the guy a break. There is no army of Patriots out there lining up to protect Alex and his family -he does have 3 or 4 young kids.

  6. I like Pieczenik. I like Alex Jones. Dont know what’s going on here. What I can get over is Pieczenik’s response to Alex on his show about a year ago–when asked who he would like to see as President–Pieczenik replied -someone like Jeb Bush. Alex was speechless.

  7. Mr. Fetzer ….do you have any idea what happened to Dr. Pieczenik’s second interview with AJ ? The reason I ask is when your article first was published , there was what appeared to be a threat to Pieczenik as one of the first comments, which disappeared that first day. After first listening to the Pieczenik interview , I was amazed that his “handlers” had allowed this to happen. Considering that someone like Pieczenik doesn’t go off half-cocked , it had to be planned by some powerful faction (of informationist or disinformationist) . Either they never planned a second interview , having accomplished all they intended, or he was threatened away from it. What’s your opinion ?

    But what is amazing is that his interview with AJ is receiving so little coverage, considering that he’s one of the highest insiders to admit 9/11 was an inside job.

    And a point about Alex Jones and his Israeli position. I think he’s only protecting his family. He was probably seriously threatened early on. Everyone is.

    • When he appeared on the show Sunday, Alex was enthusiastic about having him back on Tuesday. But, from his web site, Steve Pieczenik: “Alex Jones just pulled me off his 1:30 show today. He was intimidated by the very people we talked about. no worries, truth will prevail.”

      • Jones: …[1:03:46] Well Doc, in closing, we are going to get you back up in the next few days, we appreciate your time, stevepieczenik.com…

        Dr. Pieczenik: …[1:10:52] ….[Israel] will launch an attack, which [is] presumably by Netanyahu and the Israeli Defense Forces strategy, will think will force us into saving them from total destruction. And the answer is Netanyahu has no idea that Petraeus will not save him, Dempsey will not save him, our Navy will not save him, McCraven will not save him, neither will Obama. He cannot get that message through. So he is pushing this through until he kills one of our ambassadors, precipitates what we call agitation propaganda, only with the approval of Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia and Israel are twins. They are doppelgangers. There is no way you can separate Israel from Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia and Israel go all the way back to 9/11. They go back to the days when Jimmy Carter fired 4,000 operatives because people went to Saudi Arabia, those people who were left in the agency went to Saudi Arabia. The Mossad, and the Pakistani ISI reconstituted an intelligence service which was totally illegal. Many of those who came in the Carter administration, Jews like Dennis Ross, Martin Indyk, who was an operative underneath the Australian government, was an American citizen for only one day was appointed an American Ambassador to Israel so that Dennis Roth who was a neocon could control him—

        Jones: [At 1:12:18] All right, well let me stop you right there, stop right there Doc, we will be back on Tuesday to break this down, but bottom line, the twenty five fleets, this is London Telegraph, Associated Press, are converging, twenty five nations are converging on the strategically important Strait of Hormuz. They have never done this in the last five years of saber rattling. My intel is that right now Israel has tentatively green lit an attack any time in the next month and a half against Iran. Iran will then attack U.S. bases all over the Middle East with all their missiles, drawing the United States in. By having the Al Qaeda groups that Saudi Arabia runs, start attacking U.S. facilities, they believe that will create a sympathetic response domestically within the U.S. for a call to attack Arabs, because people are politically and geopolitically totally ignorant, to the level of being basically brain dead, and so there is this saber rattling `Now let’s bomb the Arabs.’ You can see the manipulation, the propaganda is targeted for what a five year old mentality. Briefly, to you concur with that analysis?

        Dr. Pieczenik: [1:13:26] Basically I will summarize it as this. As Hitler created the first Holocaust of the Jews, Netanyahu will be responsible for the second Holocaust of the Jews in the 21st century. He will be the Hitler of the 21st century to the Jews. On this New Years Eve [of the Jewish Calendar] this is what I say about Netanyahu. He was part of 9/11. He was part of the conspiracy, the agitation propaganda, the killings, and now the agitation for precipitation of war. When that war goes we will have a holocaust and pogrom the likes of which we haven’t seen since the days of Hitler. He is our new Hitler.
        Jones: Whoa. OK, wow. Dr. Pieczenik, we will talk to you Tuesday.

        Dr. Pieczenik: My pleasure, bye.

      • Pieczenik subsequently posted on his blog:

        “Okay, no Alex Jones today! Just got a call from info wars, canceling my interview. I think Alex was intimidated by the very people and organizations that we were talking about. Stay tuned, more to come.”
        Posted by Steve Pieczenik at 8:30 AM

        • In that context, it could be that Peiczenik is correct in his analysis, hit a nerve, and then AJ was threatened not to have him back on. I don’t know. I listen to AJ, and I like VT and all you guys too. These are my favorite sites. I am just trying to make sense of all of this. It seems to me that AJ’s analysis and VT’s analysis are have much in common, or are very similar, except for the Zionist connection, because I know AJ avoids that, but it just surprises me that he is bashed here, or questioned in this manner, being called a fraud and such, when to a large degree, he is saying things very similar to what I read hear. I am not saying there are no differences, just that they are not dissimilar.

          • Well, I like him and believe that most of what he does is viable and constructive, especially when he goes after the bankers who have so much control over what goes on in the world. But the evidence of Israeli complicity in 9/11 is both abundant and compelling, from Christopher Bollyn’s book to Alan Sabrosky’s articles. See, for example, the web site, “Israel did 9/11–All the proof in the world”, if you have any doubts. It is difficult to maintain a reputation for muckraking when you leave massive piles of 9/11 muck aside and pretend that it does not exist. That, I think, is the question, but it may well be that he has been threatened and has no real choice.

          • I think what gets me is the vehement bashing of AJ at times. Martin made the point above that I had it backwards: not that AJ defends Israel, but doesn’t allow criticism, and I agree with that. As far as I can see, that is the primary issue here, that he doesn’t go after Israel. I think there are legitimate reasons that he doesn’t, like he could be threatened, I don’t know for sure. I just don’t believe he is a fraud or controlled opposition. He does so much good fighting the evil, waking people up, even if they have to read other sites such as VT to get the rest of the story.

          • Check out Kevin Barrett, “Israel seeks war on Iran to keep lid on 9/11″. I think we are on the same page.
            http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/22/israel-seeks-war-on-iran-to-keep-lid-on-911/

  8. If the US government is planning to go to war against the American public, it will definitely be a false flag operation. In the time before the elections, will anything that Joe Arpaio has about the Mystery Man come to light and be actionable/prosecutable? Supposedly, there is a soon to be law that will allow the President total control over the Internet. And, “in the interest of national security, I, your fatheaded president/narcissist, MUST shut down the Internet”. It’s this kind of phony false flag that we can expect from this president. Sadly, tragically, Obama is running against a Malamute who has his own insanity to deal with. As Gordie says, “we have another election where the American public has nobody to turn to”.

    I’d invest in a company that made bandoliers and magazines for .40 handguns. Reminds me, I’ve got to hit the sports store and buy some slugs……If we see Janet Napolitano wearing her steel pot, we’ll kinda know something’s up….with all these commie czars, you just know that Obama may have to shoot the works,no pun intended, if he suddenly pops up 12 points down in the polls. Who here bets he would declare martial law because Martians are landing? This guy will do anything to hang on to the presidency and the big issue is IF this schmo will pull a notable stunt to retain the top seat.

  9. Iran is the golden egg’s hen.
    You can’t kill the hen.
    You can’t destroy Iran.

    It is because of fear of a war that the warmongering industries are selling billions of dollars in missiles and shields to Iran’s neighbours thus keepin’ the war machine running.

    Unfortunately, no war is going to happen, bro.

    • Why anyone in their right mind would think that “no war is going to happen” is UNFORTUNATE is beyond me.

  10. I refuse to accept that american public, as stupid as it can be, will believe this crap.
    Sieg Heil!

  11. duay khwaam nap theuu

    Somewhat tangential to WWIII starting in a few days:

    Alex Jones Removes words ‘Mossad Connection’ From Title 9/17/12
    during his interview with Steve P.
    Documented in 1 minute video
    youtube.com/watch?v=EHxM4Doo9nw
    Before : “Shocking 9/11 Mossad Connection Revealed!”
    After : “Insider: U.S. Ambassador Killing an Inside Job!”

    Also, I don’t understand why SP is writing only of Spanish WWII history and The history of Chinese-Japanese relations with no mention of his warnings or the recebnt fals flag on his new blog (at his website).

  12. duay khwaam nap theuu

    How about a food for guns exchange program? An anonymous person has reported that a second anonymous person has claimed to have seen the plans.

  13. If this indeed happens, it will be the final nail in the usurping zionist entity’s coffin

  14. Stacie ” If the arabs laid down their arms” today then tomorrow Talmudia would be ten times bigger and would oppress and brutalize that much more of the arab world….Talmudia shouldn’t exist..saying that it “has a right to” is like saying that a certain group of “Jews” called zionists have the right to massacre, assassinnate, ethnically cleanse people off their land and lie about it…no one has that right..

  15. why the freak does israel even want to attack iran in the first place? to ‘delay’ the inevitable nuclear bomb in iran? (that they can buy off russia or china anyway?)…..

    what is goin on – why is israel trying to start world war iii?

    • Think of Talmudia as a serial killer…It will keep scheming, double-dealing, oppressing and brutalizing people-occasionally running over unarmed women w/bulldozers-until they’re stopped…It’s a failed state-the only thing keeping it going is war and threats of war..

  16. Now who’s dictating foreign policy? Netanyahu or Pieczenik? And this meshuggeneh thinks Hilarius Clinton has been a great Secretary of State? OMGWTF! Thanks for Camp David too, Stevenik, and helping sell out Palestine to your pet Irgun monster Menachem Begin. Just lovely. So is it YOU or Netanya-WHO that really picked the date, to set off some real fireworks on the “Jewish” New Year? You and Foghorn Jones are not only out of your element, you’re out of your Holocausted skulls.

    • I originally described it as the Jewish “New Year” but it’s the most holy day in Judaism AND the beginning of the Jewish “New Year”!

  17. Thanks all for the latest on the Jewish war against the former US of A. May God help us send the dirty scum back to Hell, from whence it came.

  18. Jim,

    Thanks for the story, this can result in new dangerous technical warfare. I was working abroad during time when many were testing new technologies for potential space warfare. There was allot of low level chatter and concerns about how warfare can be engaged in space, and how many now have the ability to target infrastructure support systems. And this pretext for disengagement of systems, and then lower level, and thereafter ground engagement.

  19. Why would the Pakistanis want the Israeli Foreign Legion camped in Afghanistan? ( When Israel has an obvious alliance w/India )…..For that matter, why would the Saudis want to take down Saddam “the human wall holding back Iran” Hussein? Poor Saddam…Iraq deserved to have Kuwait after fighting Iran for “us” for 8 yrs…He protected the Christians, built infrastructure, kept the damn Mossad out of the country ( kept the treasonous Kurds fm inviting Mossad in )…eliminated sectarian strife…His only mistake? Believing that the Americans were ever really an ally…

    • We Anglos have a comprehensive record for cheating Arabs, much to our detriment. The karma is ongoing.

      Maybe we should choose our friends more wisely ?

  20. Pakistan had nothing to do w/9-11…..There was no $100,000 transfer…No ” ISI involvement..” That’s all bs..Atta was reportedly using the passport of some other Atta in Hamburg…Used his profile…The guy at the flight school was surprised he didn’t know German-but reportedly knew Hebrew…The interview w/his american galpal was pretty revealing too..This guy was no devout muslim on a suicide mission…More likely he was a Mossad agent helping to build the “Al-Quaeda” narrative…This was a Mossad job..with their agents. allies and assets on the ground…Alex Jones is a fraud….I’m beginnin to think only God can/will deliver justice to the actual perps..

    • I agree. You have to assume that much evidence was planted. We have the qurans in the “hijackers” cars that ICTS planted and the magic passport of course but I would absolutely add in the supposed $100,000 transfer. 9/11 was strictly an Israeli and American job. Not Saudi. Not Pakistani.

      And yes, Alex Jones is is the most succesful controlled opposition tool in “alternative” media.

      • Yes, indeed, evidence planted by the Mossad.

        This information is from an article written by the Pulitzer Prize winner Seymour Hersh: Many of the investigators believe that some of the initial clues that were uncovered about the terrorists’ identities and preparations, such as flight manuals, were meant to be found. A former high-level intelligence official told me, “Whatever trail was left was left deliberately—for the F.B.I. to chase.”

        Brian: Atta the supposed ringleader was being impersonated. According to friends, family and former college friends in Germany, he was a shy, very conservative man in real life and not the drinking womanizer as the Mossad impersonator played him at bars just before 911.

        Atta and the supposed hijackers were supposedly devout fundamentalist Muslims and their drinking and womanizing doesn’t make sense. From an article: “They were talking about what a bad place America is. They said ‘Wait ’til tomorrow. America is going to see bloodshed,”‘ said John Kap, manager of the Pink Pony and Red Eyed Jack’s Sports Bar.

        Brian: I don’t think terrorists would attract attention to themselves and jeopardize their mission. Kap said he also told the FBI they spent money on drinks and lap dances.

        Also, it would have been ridiculous for Atta and his two colleagues to be in Florida the eve before 911 because if the flight to Portland Maine or the connecting flight to the airport in Boston had been delayed the hijacking operation would have been at risk.

        • See “9/11 Truth will out: The Vancouver Hearings I”, for more on the fabrication of all four of the plane crash sites.

        • Jones and his handlers decide Michael Rivero must go. Not only from the Jones radio sideshow but from the GCN network as well. AJ waves his ‘magic’ zionist flag and makes things disappear.

          Announcement from Mike …

          “I have just been informed by the Alex Jones show that they are canceling my monthly interviews commencing this coming Tuesday. Imagine my shock and disappointment. No, really, just imagine it!”

          A little more info from Mike …

          WRH: “I have not made a big deal about the reasons for the move, but in a nutshell, GCN is a reflection of Alex Jones’ views of the world, and more and more our points of view regarding Israel are diverging. I get a lot of email asking why I do not challenge Alex on his defense of Israel, or asking why every time I am on his show Alex feels obligated to have a pro-Israel representative on immediately afterwards to counter the points that I made.

          I view the attack by Israel on a US flagged ship and Americans in international waters as an act of war and all who defend said attack as traitors to the USA. Alex holds a different view and I guess the breaking point was his rant in which he said that anyone who is a critic of Israel is a “weak-minded fool”. That made it a personal attack, and I decided it was time to step out of Alex’s shadow and go in a different direction.”

        • And those 2 paper passports that managed not only to survive the impact intact, but fall at the feet of an FBI investigator!

    • Steve Pieczenik doesn’t think Alex Jones is a fraud.

      • Well, that Mike Rivero has been given the boot from GCN is a serious development and tends to confirm my impression that Alex does not want to talk about the role of Israel in 9/11 or in world atrocities, for that matter, including its history of “false flag” attacks.

        • To my knowledge, he avoids the subject of Israel. Brian said above:

          “WRH: “I have not made a big deal about the reasons for the move, but in a nutshell, GCN is a reflection of Alex Jones’ views of the world, and more and more our points of view regarding Israel are diverging. I get a lot of email asking why I do not challenge Alex on his defense of Israel, or asking why every time I am on his show Alex feels obligated to have a pro-Israel representative on immediately afterwards to counter the points that I made. ”

          I don’t ever remember AJ defending Israel, I don’t know who WRH or Michael Rivero are, have not heard either on AJ, and have never heard a pro-Israel interview in the past two years. Please give an example, a time frame or otherwise substantiate.

          • I don’t beleive AJ is a fraud or controlled opposition. He may not be perfect, but he is a patriot who has gone all in trying to save our country. Dr. Pieczenik praises him every time he is on. Also, can you say why Pieczenik will not be back on? I too noticed he was not on Tuesday, and AJ basically ran a rerun today for some strange reason.

          • See my comments below. The clip of him defending Israel and saying its “their land” is readily available on youtube.

          • “I don’t ever remember AJ defending Israel…”

            You’ve kinda got it backwards.

            It’s not that AJ defends Israel; it’s that he prohibits criticism of Israel.

            “…I don’t know who WRH or Michael Rivero are…”

            WRH = whatreallyhappened – dot – com, Michael Rivero’s Web site.

        • is it possible that Alex Jones simply does not know the depth of mossad atrocities, and mossad’s interwovenness in the neocon world?

          to me it is illogical that Alex Jones is somehow a zionist/mossad plant controlled dissent et al.

          and yes, Dr. Pieczenik seems to endorse Alex Jones, so who here now wants to say that Dr. Pieczenik is also a mossad stooge? no way.

          • Alex Jones’ wife is Jewish so their two children are therefore considered fully Jewish because under rabbinical law, if the mother is Jewish, then the kids are too, regardless of the race or ethnicity of the father.

            Brother Nathanael Kapner has a few articles that connect some dots about Alex Jones’ Jewish connections. I didn’t want to believe it either. http://www.realjewnews (dot) com/?p=387

          • No, its not possible. Lets look at just a couple of AJ quotes-“they didn’t do it (Israel/9/11)”. “Arabs own the media”. “Its their land (Israel’s), I support them”. Alex has openly attacked callers who even dare mention Israel on his show.

            Also, Alex regularly plays the phony left/right divide game that he pretends to be against. Half the stories he posts are from compromised MSM sources and the other half are fear monger propaganda that keeps his listeners going in circles. Every now and then he posts a good article from PCR or somebody but for the most part I cant tell the difference between his site and Drudge. And that’s NOT a compliment. He is very close to becoming just another Glenn Beck Republican who pretends to be independent but is anything but.

            Finally, to see just how hypocritical and yes, racist he is, go to youtube and watch the clip-“Alex Jones Mexicans vs Zionists”. Alex does what hes told and what hes told to do is play the controlled opposition role and pull in and defang as many people as possible. Don’t be pulled in by his BS.

          • A friend, who is very astute, has just written as follows:

            Alex Jones has strong ties to Zionist Emmis Broadcasting. Here’s the link, http://adventofdeception.com/deception-alex-jones/. It’s a long article but very informative and well-written. So it’s readable and sews AJ up in the Zionist pocket quite successfully. He also shared a lawyer, maybe still does, with Zionist Edgar Bronfman, Jr., which is a second article you an easily Google. Frankly, I don’t think Netanyahu is going to pull off a false-flag op on Iran. He can’t be that stupid. If nuclear radiation can drift from Fukushima, Japan to the U.S. West Coast, it certainly can drift from Iran to near-by Israel, that is if Bibi owns a map of the world. I frankly think all this is saber-rattling though accidents happen when you’re waving sabers in the air. Hopefully, it wouldn’t trigger a world-conflagration. It is not worth losing this beautiful world of ours over the low-lifes of Israel. As to Obama, it would behoove him to back off, and let Mitt sink in his poop with Bibi. One could make the case that the ex-Bain Capitalist Hedge-funder/CEO, running on his financial prowess as a biz-man should not be throwing away $3 billion a year plus to such a dangerous partner as Israel.

          • duay khwaam nap theuu

            Alex Jones Removed words ‘Mossad Connection’ From Title 9/17/12

            Before : “Shocking 9/11 Mossad Connection Revealed!”
            After : “Insider: U.S. Ambassador Killing an Inside Job!”

            Documented in 1 minute video
            youtube.com/watch?v=EHxM4Doo9nw

          • Duay, good catch. Myself and many others are all over that video ripping Alex for it, and for his general obfuscation when it comes to Israel/9-11. If they haven’t deleted our comments yet.

  21. I volunteer Mittz Romney to play the part of T.J. Kong and ride the first W88 right into Tel Aviv!

    He should relish the part since he missed his calling in 1970 ;-)

    • Yeah, he was too busy offering French girls free english lessons and magic underwear..The no wine, no coffee thing must have been hard to sell…

    • I agree, let Mitt Romney and all those American Zionist Jews and all those who are for the war on Iran to volunteer and be the first to go to battle… I am sure they do not have the courage or the guts to do that, they only want others to die for their wars… well be the war on Iran will bring an end to Israel and its lobby in the US.

      • Good for you Sami Jamil Jadallah. Let Mitt and all the pretty boys and girls in D.C. and Pentagon get the first to fight out of their collective system. The pretty ones can shoot people they don’t know, hit them with blunt objects breaking bones and crushing skiulls – strangling the bad buys too, blowing them up with a plethara of explosives, don’t forget the baynoet either. The folks in D.C. need the same opporutnies others have. You know who the others are? The guys that don’t have more than one home, make under $20,000.00 a year. Yup – gonna have another war.

        However – we wil fight it. The every day guy (and now girl too) while industry makes more money and the very brave ones in D.C. and the Pentagon get so very much “GLORY”. Yeah.

        Take care.

        Once an 0311
        Dale R. Suiter

  22. Preston James, Ph.D

    We can all hope that Dr. Pieczenik’s disclosures/predictions have created “blown cover” and will prevent such a catastrophe from occurring. Coming forward at this strategic time can hopefully raise the awareness of the US High command and politicians and hopefully prevent this world conflict from going live in a new full spectrum int’l/multinational war.

    Dr. Pieczenik has a long patriotic history of serving America under both political parties and has shown himself to be a hero many times over. He is unquestionably a senior statesman,clearly apolitical, a former Deputy Director of the State Dept and his credentials are impeccable as well as his track record.

    Only a handful of top American Officials have come forward and told the truth of what happened on 9-11-01. He is the first to name names publicly and this is an expression of his great courage, previously shown in numerous highly sensitive covert missions for the benefit of Americans. And he did play a critical role in the Camp David Peace accords, the only successful treaty between Palestine and Israel to date.

    Highest commendations to Dr. Pieczenik for once again standing up for Americans and America, putting his country first. And many thanks to Professor Jim Fetzer for this fine article and all his excellent research.

    • Yeah I’m sure Dr. Pieczenik’s “disclosures” Alex Jones show will prevent an Israeli attack because everyone takes Alex Jones and his guests seriously. I’m sure that right about now every high ranking official in the government is panicking after listening to Pieczenik’s well based assertion on Alex Jones.

      Btw the Camp David Peace accords were between Egypt and Israel not Palestine and Israel.

  23. So anyone who disagree with you, you call them a rat?
    Man, you are so stupid. Stupid american sheeple.
    You put those eternal jews where they are now.
    Deal with them, you inbred pig!

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