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Undeniable, American Civil War, it is in the Cards


Undeniable, American Civil War, it is in the Cards

by  Gordon Duff

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You hear it only in whispers.  Americans, those who used to consider themselves liberal or conservative, urban or rural, all races, religions and ethnicities are whispering.

With America’s new laws, universal wiretapping, total supervision of the Internet, networks of informants throughout the population, there is a genuine fear, neither of invasion nor of collapse and starvation though those are seen as more than “probable.”

Americans are convinced they will, perhaps this month, this year, certainly soon, see a civil war.  These are no longer bluster, angry words spoken in the heat of the moment.  These are quiet words, carefully spoken behind closed doors between trusted friends.

Americans are afraid of their government, their laws, their police and they have been afraid too long.

There are groups that, for political gain, have always exploited fear, this is to be expected.  The “neocon” movement was built from wild conspiracy theories spread by the Fox/Murdoch empire and its cabal of hidden cohorts.  Fearful Americans voted in even more corrupt governments than usual and economic disasters were engineered, perhaps a bit of government terrorism too.

Americans were lulled into the complacency of sheep and as they awakened, a few at a time, they saw how the visions and ideals they once held had disappeared. What they didn’t know was that this dark time and the darker times to follow would, when seen in retrospect, seem as though they were a golden era.

There is real fear in America, strangely uniting people as only hopelessness can. While America slept, thieves came in the night and stole her soul.  First the new laws, the foreign threats, terrorism, militias, extremism, Orwell’s 1984.

New Jersey Fusion Center

Then came the endless wars, more Orwellian nightmares followed by more laws, new bureaucracies, new humiliations, the author’s nightmares of a century past, Orwell and Kafka.

America went away.  It was replaced by “Fusion Centers” run by the Department of Homeland Security, where data on the behavior of everyone, children in school, gossip in the workplace, emails, telephone calls, all became fodder for analysis and classification.

This veteran is prone to violence, this church is a cult, this group is a militia, this meeting is a conspiracy.

This is one agency, there are 16.  This is only the “Fusion Center.”  The NSA (National Security Agency), NRO (National Reconnaissance Office) and 16 other agencies, all with undefined and overlapping powers, are spending billions on super computers to watch, to think, to predict and to, eventually, intervene.

“Capabilities” are being built to answer “threats” that have never existed and, as predicted, when the “Frankenstein monster” America has built is unleashed, it will have no duty but to turn on its unknowing creators. Thus, every phone call, every email, every Facebook post, perhaps every glance or expression will be recorded and analyzed.

Orwell’s “Thought Police,” exist, 16 agencies full, and those are only those with Federal or national designations.  Each state, county, each city or town, all are accumulating heavy weapons, surveillance equipment, all a duplication of the Israeli model.

The worst part is Americans have forgotten how to deal with tyranny.  Americans met the British the way the Viet Cong and Taliban have met our own troops.

Seattle gets to play police state

This was before 15 million Americans languished in prisons.  This was before a million police, indoctrinated, no, really “brainwashed,” fed on steroids, and human growth hormones.

Add to that sniper rifles, armoured cars and specialist gear of America’s elite special operations forces now “standard issue” for traffic police and meter maids, America has created a culture of power and oppression.

Behind the police is government, layer upon layer, each more corrupt than the last.  Behind the police are endless prisons and jails, many privately run, all as filthy and violent as any on earth, innocent and guilty alike share one thing in common, lack of money to buy their way to freedom.

Only the poor go to jail in America. Sheriffs and police chiefs, judges and magistrates are empowered to fill the “for pay” prisons owned by corporations that finance their campaigns.

In America, sheriffs and judges are elected, nominated by the powerful, financed by those they are sworn to protect, the privileged classes, those of organized crime, the drug cartels, and, most of all, their political overlords who then serve a greater class of criminals, onward and upward until the elite bankers and moguls of world crime sit at their table and divide their spoils.

The grand criminal conspiracy tried to form their own political base.  It was called the “Tea Party” and many fell for the message of hate and divisiveness from Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann and their masters, the Koch Brothers, those whose exist through bleeding America dry by manipulating fuel prices.

“Occupy,” a real America activist movement, the best of America, hope, ideals, intelligence, clearly recognizing the true enemy and resisting tyranny, certainly worthy but, call me a cynic, and I am certainly that, but two generations bred for complacency and, little are they aware, slaughter, too many stood by and did nothing.

Moreover, tyranny and violence came out in force, rights to free assembly and speech had long disappeared and no one had been there to notice.  Worse still, more openly sold those rights for nothing more than the promise of security, with only those of intellect, fewer each day it seems, aware that the enemy was and is…us.

Only one police chief, from Philadelphia, stood with the Occupy NY people

As things are now, in very real “America,” rural, urban, black, white, Jews and Gentiles, there is a feeling that it is wise to be armed.

There is also a need to be organized and also a fear, knowing that no group of any kind is safe if it is legally armed, organized and openly advocating a return to real representative government and the very minimal safeguards of a constitution even fewer realize is long outdated.

It has gone further.  In regions of the United States, people live in actual terror of their government.

Knowing I am speaking to a largely international audience, such a statement may seem almost humorous.  Imprisonment for crimes of thought or for exercising dissent are commonplace in most of the world.

America really was very different and, I can only hope, there are Americans out there who are as concerned as I am. What has made this situation so pervasive is orchestrating of complacency, of submission, the acceptance of fear and hopelessness that pervades many.

Conversely, there is an equal and opposite culture of brutality, of indifference to human values, of feeling, of respect and honor, a disrespect for truth, for rights of the individual, a need to oppress the weak and defend the powerful

We have bred, it seems, a race of sociopaths, be they cartel “hit men” or corrupt police or guards at military prisons, perhaps even well paid contractors loading planes with narcotics to destroy the lives of our children, they are our creation.

Morrison’s Grave, Paris
Photo By G. Duff

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Jim Morrison

Jim Morrison of the Doors once sang “They’ve got the guns, we’ve got the numbers.”

Morrison died in a bathtub in Paris many years ago, I visit his grave periodically.  The stone bust has long been removed as much as his message has been forgotten.

The balance has well changed. They have the guns and they have the numbers.  “We”, no longer seem to exist, not a “we” that respects liberty and honor anyway.

The military, through its service academies, West Point, Annapolis and the Air Force Academy, actually purposefully endeavor to mold a race of military leaders that function more as insects than humans. There are exceptions, but they live in the shadows and are cowed into silence.

Funny thing, our papers are filled with Syria, how their government is “repressing the revolution” with violence.  Were Americans to rise up and demand real freedom, there is little doubt nuclear weapons would be unleashed. Do make a note of that.

Last night was the first presidential debate, part of an election year ritual that first began in 1960, the year of the Kennedy/Nixon election.   Great issues stood before Americans, or so most believed, racial divides, pervasive religious discrimination, rural poverty and disease, urban decay, a crumbling manufacturing base, America under Eisenhower had stagnated.

American elections are much like wars or sporting events.  People choose teams for reasons none understand, vilify the opposition, show loyalty to the “home team,” whether a game or one of the endless wars that have sapped the economies and futures of this small planet since man first emerged, from a tree, a cave or from a scriptural paradise.

Now, it is all falling apart.  Old divisions are no longer believable.  Old ideals of hard work, saving for the future have proven to bring only poverty and hopelessness.  Ideals of justice and honor, of truth, these things have become a joke.

Americans that choose religious faith find themselves guided into extremism and hatred.  Those who choose rational problem solving, who choose to seek solutions, inevitably sink into cynicism and bitterness.

Robert Kennedy – Last Moments

America has sought leaders to stand for the people.  They are killed, “lone gunmen,” or plane accidents, some are imprisoned, some simply destroyed  through a deluge of laundered drug money, America’s new “currency of violence” as per the ruling of the Supreme Court of the United States in the case of Citizens United.

If a new leader arises, he or she will be of sterner stuff, merciless and cruel.  This is also what is whispered behind closed doors.

It is my suspicion that a Romney presidency would bring it about, a war in Iran, a return to compulsory military service, elimination of universal education, massive homelessness, a nation pushed into decay as we see a “short sale” on America, a nation broken up and peddled off wholesale, as Romney has done so many times before.

I remember my first visit to the Tower of London.  The tours have been the same for generations.  The part that sticks, for me at least, is the idea of “hanging, drawing and quartering,” followed by placing the head of the traitor on a “pike” at the gate.

The tales of the Beefeaters at the Tower, meant to shock the American tourists no longer seem as out of place.

 Editing:  Jim W. Dean

Gordon Duff, Senior Editor

Gordon Duff is a Marine combat veteran of the Vietnam War.He is a disabled veteran and has worked on veterans and POW issues for decades.

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  1. Not Clueless  October 14, 2012 at 12:39 pm

    It appears all my posts have finally materialized – TY.

    @TP
    What others have written re the Bible’s authenticity:
    (a commenter to Was the Bible Forged article on Sott)
    The Old testament is just as fabricated as the New. Even a cursory examination of the NT shows us that the stories conflict at almost every turn. Whether the authors were in fact members of the 12 is even less important than the content they contain. In the first century there around 100 ‘gospels’ floating around. 4 is such a curious number. Don’t you think?

    The test of truth: If two statements contradict one another, one is false. They may both be false, and probably are, but one is necessarily false for they cannot both be true.

    Get a better look at what’s actually inside:
    [http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/joseph_wheless/is_it_gods_word/]
    Adam and Eve are not history. It is an allegory. So is original sin.
    Perhaps someone can explain how you can have a physical atonement (Jesus) for an allegorical sin.
    Exodus is a myth, it didn’t happen. There are no records of any people besides the Hyksos being kicked out of Egypt. The Egyptians were meticulous record keepers.

    There was no wandering in the desert. It didn’t happen. 185,000+ people meandering over that little area for forty years, performing sacrificial offerings virtually every minute of the day, for every reason under the sun would have left a mound of bones 2 miles high. There isn’t a stick or a stone or a bone. Nothing to indicate that the claims of the Exodus are historical. Because they aren’t. They’re fabricated. So is their claim of being “chosen of God”.

    It is quite likely that King Josiah wrote the OT in about 750bc when he miraculously “found the book of the Law” while renovating a temple. He immediately banned all other belief systems and instituted Mosaic Law; demonstrating that the people were not practicing it up to that point.

    And today we split hairs over whether the person who claims to have authored one of the many fantasies contained in the bible is actually who he purported to be.

    The only thing original to Christianity is its alleged founder. And there have been 16 crucified savior god-men in the history of religion. I guess the ‘devil’ must have put the other 15 there to fool us. Just like he did the dinosaur eggs.

    It is difficult for Christianity to stand the test of validity, even beyond its alleged authors, when it’s founded upon the OT; a collection of tribal folklore and fantasy.

    LKJ reply:
    I’m actually coming slowly to the conclusion that Josiah had nothing to do with it, that it was all put together in the 2nd-1st centuries BC to underpin the Maccabees political ambitions. It’s also possible that the Septuagint is the ORIGINAL “Hebrew” bible, a bunch of borrowings from the Greeks and Mesopotamians with Palestinian legends tossed in and historicized.

    What seems pretty clear is that the OT was either written or edited by a committee of schizoidal psychopaths.

    Another thing: there’s evidence that the Epic of Gilgamesh is closely related to the Odyssey… a difficult thing to explain for sure. My guess is that it was borrowed – as were all “Greek” myths and Mesopotamian myths and ultimately, Hebrew stories, from the Northern European megalithic civilization.

    1st commenter again:
    And before there was Adam and Eve there was Adam and Lilith.
    And there are 3 sets of 10 commandments. Which set do you prefer? I prefer the one that dictates “thou shalt not seeth a kid in its mother’s milk.”

    Another commenter:
    Anyone jumping to the defense of any religion has not looked themselves in the mirror this morning. Any truths left in texts were left there intentionally, so that we may buy into the lies. And what terrible deeds those lies have dealt us so far.
    ~~~~
    Me? I’m still using the ol’ noggin as I continue my pursuit of TRUTH. Determining who/what is credible may definitely be dependent on whether one does or does not have an authoritarian personality.

  2. Not Clueless  October 13, 2012 at 10:43 am

    Two post awaiting moderation – indefinitely????

  3. Not Clueless  October 13, 2012 at 10:41 am

    WHY IS THIS STILL IN LIMBO – posted before the one above? Where did my other post go?

    Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    @TP
    Heyns Lecture Series: Misquoting Jesus
    1:39:15 – 5 years ago
    “Misquoting Jesus: Scribes Who Altered Scripture and Readers Who May Never Know,” a textual criticism of Biblical manuscript tampering by Bart Ehrman, Professor or Religious Studies of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=397006836098752165

    From:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1370206/Bart-D-Ehrman-Parts-Bibles-New-Testament-written-pretend-apostles.html

    Many scholars think six of the 13 letters allegedly written by Paul were actually authored by somebody else claiming to be Paul, Professor Ehrman claims.

    ‘In the ancient world, books like that were labelled as pseudoi – lies,’ he writes.

    Professor Ehrman also claims the author of the book of 1 Timothy claimed to be Paul but in actual fact was someone living after Paul had died.
    The author then used the apostle’s name to address a problem he saw in church, according to Professor Ehrman.

    ‘Women were speaking out, exercising authority and teaching men. That had to stop,’ he writes.

    ‘The author told women to be silent and submissive, and reminded his readers about what happened the first time a woman was allowed to exercise authority over a man, in that little incident in the garden of Eden.

    ‘No, the author argued, if women wanted to be saved, they were to have babies (1 Tim. 2:11-15).’

    Paul is known as one of history’s great misogynists, largely based on this passage from the Bible.
    But Professor Ehrman argues this label is not necessarily justified because he wasn’t the one to write it.
    ‘And why does it matter? Because the passage is still used by church leaders today to oppress and silence women,’ writes Professor Ehrman.

    ‘Why are there no women priests in the Catholic Church? Why are women not allowed to preach in conservative evangelical churches? Why are there churches today that do not allow women even to speak?

    ‘In no small measure it is because Paul allegedly taught that women had to be silent, submissive and pregnant.
    ‘Except that the person who taught this was not Paul, but someone lying about his identity so that his readers would think he was Paul.’

    Professor Ehrman then goes on to write how the Bible is actually filled with the need for ‘truth’ but many of its writers were telling a lie.
    ‘It appears that some of the New Testament writers, such as the authors of 2 Peter, 1 Timothy and Ephesians, felt they were perfectly justified to lie in order to tell the truth,’ he writes.

    See also:
    http://cassiopaea.org/category/volumes/who-wrote-the-bible/
    http://cassiopaea.org/2010/09/18/the-lost-gospel-the-book-of-q-and-christian-origins-by-burton-l-mack/
    http://cassiopaea.org/2010/09/18/the-most-dangerous-cult-in-the-world/
    http://cassiopaea.org/2011/03/03/gnosticism-and-the-christian-myth/

  4. Not Clueless  October 12, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    Another interesting point – from:
    http://www.sott.net/article/227222-The-Golden-Age-Psychopathy-and-the-Sixth-Extinction

    While I have great admiration for Gellner, I have to point out that this theory of how to control human beings was understood in pretty much this way many thousands of years ago. In the course of my reading, I once came across a passage translated from an archaeological dig – a Hittite tablet – where the king wrote that the priesthood needed the king to establish their religious authority and the king needed the priests to establish his right to rule. This control comes sharply into view in the falsification of history. History, itself, becomes part of the control. After all, control of daily information is just history in the making. As to how this process works on the individual level, a passage in Barbara Oakley’s Evil Genes describes what ‘dancing around the totem pole with ones social group’ does to the human brain – including scientists and creationists, both of whom have very strong attachments to their belief systems:

    “A recent imaging study by psychologist Drew Westen and his colleagues at Emory University provides firm support for the existence of emotional reasoning. Just prior to the 2004 Bush-Kerry presidential elections, two groups of subjects were recruited – fifteen ardent Democrats and fifteen ardent Republicans. Each was presented with conflicting and seemingly damaging statements about their candidate, as well as about more neutral targets such as actor Tom Hanks (who, it appears, is a likable guy for people of all political persuasions). Unsurprisingly, when the participants were asked to draw a logical conclusion about a candidate from the other – ‘wrong’ – political party, the participants found a way to arrive at a conclusion that made the candidate look bad, even though logic should have mitigated the particular circumstances and allowed them to reach a different conclusion. Here’s where it gets interesting.

    When this ‘emote control’ began to occur, parts of the brain normally involved in reasoning were not activated. Instead, a constellation of activations occurred in the same areas of the brain where punishment, pain, and negative emotions are experienced (that is, in the left insula, lateral frontal cortex, and ventromedial prefrontal cortex). Once a way was found to ignore information that could not be rationally discounted, the neural punishment areas turned off, and the participant received a blast of activation in the circuits involving rewards – akin to the high an addict receives when getting his fix.

    In essence, the participants were not about to let facts get in the way of their hot-button decision making and quick buzz of reward. ‘None of the circuits involved in conscious reasoning were particularly engaged,’ says Westen. ‘Essentially, it appears as if partisans twirl the cognitive kaleidoscope until they get the conclusions they want, and then they get massively reinforced for it, with the elimination of negative emotional states and activation of positive ones’…

    Ultimately, Westen and his colleagues believe that ‘emotionally biased reasoning leads to the “stamping in” or reinforcement of a defensive belief, associating the participant’s “revisionist” account of the data with positive emotion or relief and elimination of distress. The result is that partisan beliefs are calcified, and the person can learn very little from new data,’ Westen says. Westen’s remarkable study showed that neural information processing related to what he terms ‘motivated reasoning’ … appears to be qualitatively different from reasoning when a person has no strong emotional stake in the conclusions to be reached.

    The study is thus the first to describe the neural processes that underlie political judgment and decision making, as well as to describe processes involving emote control, psychological defense, confirmatory bias, and some forms of cognitive dissonance. The significance of these findings ranges beyond the study of politics: ‘Everyone from executives and judges to scientists and politicians may reason to emotionally biased judgments when they have a vested interest in how to interpret “the facts,”‘ according to Westen.” (Barbara Oakley, Evil Genes, Prometheus Books, 2008.)

    In short, a human brain that is calcified in a belief system – believing it because their social group, peers, family, also believe it – literally experiences pain if they try to open their mind and think in an unlimited and unbiased way. The same thing must happen to a person trying to understand the different social constraints that are accepted as perfectly normal in a different cultural group. The implications are truly enormous. It can also explain why science is so corrupt! This is, essentially, a look inside the brain of the authoritarian personality.

    I had another post submitted that is not showing up; to avoid duplication I will wait & see if it subsequently posts – it gives more evidence that the bible is a ‘doctored’ text and archaeological evidence is clearly nonexistent.

  5. Not Clueless  October 12, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    Another source/perspective – comments by Laura Knight-Jadczyk, researcher, Sott.net creator, and author of Secret History of the World:

    There’s a whole lot of studies that have been done on these texts over the past 50 to 100 years or more, some of the most fascinating in the last 25 to 30. This has been a process of comparing and analyzing texts, comparing the texts from one ancient source to another, and comparing both to the actual evidence of the spade: the archaeological findings and bringing in some hard science in the form of radiometric dating. What has been learned is staggering. But the general public doesn’t know it because they don’t read much and they especially don’t read technical papers.

    I’ve included a lot of this material in my book Secret History, re-telling it in more understandable language for the lay reader, but I’ve learned a whole lot more since that book was completed.

    The leaders in this work have come to be known as the “Copenhagen School” and it’s actually gotten a wikipedia entry recently because they are having trouble suppressing it… word is getting around.

    Quote
    The Copenhagen School is a school of biblical exegesis which stresses the primacy of archaeology in establishing a history of Ancient Israel and Judah. It arose in the late 1960s from the need to deal with the increasing contradictions between the findings of Syro-Palestinian archaeology and the Bible’s version of history:

    “For decades … scholars interpreted archaeology in light of what the Bible said … [taking] for granted that what the Bible said, was true—not just morally and religiously, but historically and scientifically. So, as an archaeologist back in the 19th century, you would pick up your Bible and expect to find Noah’s Ark somewhere on top of Mount Ararat in Turkey, just as the Bible said; or that you could dig in Jerusalem and find the remains of David’s and Solomon’s palace.”[2]

    By historicising the biblical text, the traditional approach to Biblical scholarship created a false “Israel” which fails to fit into the archaeologically established context of Iron Age Syria and Palestine. The Biblical history as seen by Minimalism is in fact more comparable to Shakespeare’s Julius Caesar: the play is based in real history, but was not written for the purpose of retelling that history.

    In recognizing that the historical narrative of the Bible is literature rather than as history, with a plot, a set of characters, and a theological theme concerning the nature of the covenant between the people of Israel and their God, Minimalism treats “biblical Israel” as in fact a literary construction rather than an objective reality.

    Key scholars associated with the School (although they do not necessarily accept the idea that there is such a School) include Thomas L. Thompson, Keith Whitelam, Niels Peter Lemche, and Philip Davies.[1]

    If you read all the books of these scholars, plus the works of Israel Finkelstein, Shlomo Sand, and a few others, you will realize how completely we have all been had. Then, if you add the work of Burton Mack on Christianity to the pile, it gets even worse.

    That’s not to say that there is not some seed of a historical event somewhere in there, but what seems to be so is that a lot of dramatic elements from different times and places were used to create a piece of literature, even a deliberately faked history, for explicitly political reasons. Some of those elements include ancient tales of cataclysm that were available to the writers, and that’s where the works of astronomer Victor Clube et al come in. Also, the works of dendrochronologist, Mike Baillie, physicist Richard Firestone, geologist Allen West, et al, and a whole other field of research into what went on in our skies and on our planet in the past 13000 years or so that gave rise to these epics, myths and legends.

    The Bible is actually a Johnny come lately in terms of this kind of literature and it borrowed freely from the stories belonging to other peoples in other times and places to create its fake history.
    ~~~~

    Writer/researcher Michael Bradley wrote an open letter to Pres. George Bush re Middle East Peace. He is the author of “Chosen People from the Caucasus” which focuses on the two separate groups of people who came from the Caucasus Mountains of the Middle East: the Biblical Hebrews who emerged from the southern Caucasus between 3000-2000 BC to invade Palestine, and the northern Caucasus “Khazars” who were converted to Judaism about 740 A.D. The Khazars were pushed into Central and Eastern Europe by Mongol invasions, and their descendants comprise the vast majority of modern Jewry. Both peoples, ironically, are considered to be “Jews”– although they have no direct historical or genetic connections with each other — except as they shared a Neanderthal origin in the Caucasus Mountains in the far distant and ancient pre-Judaic past.

    Bradley is of Jewish and native Canadian descent. From his open letter to President George Bush, dated February 17, 2001:

    “By the 1930s, it was known that archaeology in Palestine did not support the Old Testament account of Israelite dominance or rule of the region. The Hebrews were a minor nomadic tribe of southern Caucasus immigrants or invaders into Palestine. There is no archaeological evidence for the conquest of Canaan by Joshua. No archaeological evidence for the Israelite empire of David and Solomon. No archaeological evidence for the two biblical successor kingdoms of Israel and Judah.

    As recently as October 1999, one of the most prominent Israeli archaeologists, Dr. Ze’ev Herzog of Tel Aviv University, pleaded with the Israeli public and government to base policies on fact instead of biblical folklore. Nonetheless, Ariel Sharon (and others) have expressed the intention of expanding modern Israel to the borders of “David’s” purely biblical and mythical empire.

    Aside from that, the modern population of Israel consists overwhelmingly of “Jewish” people from Central Europe (“Ashkenazim”) who immigrated into Palestine before and after World War II. They have no genetic connection with biblical Hebrews at all. They are descendants of northern Caucasus steppe tribesmen who were converted to Judaism in AD 740.

    This has been known for centuries by chroniclers such as Muggadasi and Al-Bakhri (The Book of Kingdoms and Roads, circa AD 1050) and specialist historians like J.M. Bury (The History of the Eastern Roman Empire, 1912). It was first brought to limited public attention by Dr. A.N. Poliak of Tel Aviv University in his 1939 article in Zion magazine and then in his 1950 Hebrew-language book Khazaria: The History of a Jewish Kingdom in Europe. Arthur Koestler popularized the Khazar conversion for the Western world in The Thirteenth Tribe (1976).
    […]”

  6. Not Clueless  October 12, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    @TP
    Heyns Lecture Series: Misquoting Jesus
    1:39:15 – 5 years ago
    “Misquoting Jesus: Scribes Who Altered Scripture and Readers Who May Never Know,” a textual criticism of Biblical manuscript tampering by Bart Ehrman, Professor or Religious Studies of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=397006836098752165

    From:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1370206/Bart-D-Ehrman-Parts-Bibles-New-Testament-written-pretend-apostles.html

    Many scholars think six of the 13 letters allegedly written by Paul were actually authored by somebody else claiming to be Paul, Professor Ehrman claims.

    ‘In the ancient world, books like that were labelled as pseudoi – lies,’ he writes.

    Professor Ehrman also claims the author of the book of 1 Timothy claimed to be Paul but in actual fact was someone living after Paul had died.
    The author then used the apostle’s name to address a problem he saw in church, according to Professor Ehrman.

    ‘Women were speaking out, exercising authority and teaching men. That had to stop,’ he writes.

    ‘The author told women to be silent and submissive, and reminded his readers about what happened the first time a woman was allowed to exercise authority over a man, in that little incident in the garden of Eden.

    ‘No, the author argued, if women wanted to be saved, they were to have babies (1 Tim. 2:11-15).’

    Paul is known as one of history’s great misogynists, largely based on this passage from the Bible.
    But Professor Ehrman argues this label is not necessarily justified because he wasn’t the one to write it.
    ‘And why does it matter? Because the passage is still used by church leaders today to oppress and silence women,’ writes Professor Ehrman.

    ‘Why are there no women priests in the Catholic Church? Why are women not allowed to preach in conservative evangelical churches? Why are there churches today that do not allow women even to speak?

    ‘In no small measure it is because Paul allegedly taught that women had to be silent, submissive and pregnant.
    ‘Except that the person who taught this was not Paul, but someone lying about his identity so that his readers would think he was Paul.’

    Professor Ehrman then goes on to write how the Bible is actually filled with the need for ‘truth’ but many of its writers were telling a lie.
    ‘It appears that some of the New Testament writers, such as the authors of 2 Peter, 1 Timothy and Ephesians, felt they were perfectly justified to lie in order to tell the truth,’ he writes.

    See also:
    http://cassiopaea.org/category/volumes/who-wrote-the-bible/
    http://cassiopaea.org/2010/09/18/the-lost-gospel-the-book-of-q-and-christian-origins-by-burton-l-mack/
    http://cassiopaea.org/2010/09/18/the-most-dangerous-cult-in-the-world/
    http://cassiopaea.org/2011/03/03/gnosticism-and-the-christian-myth/

  7. Not Clueless  October 12, 2012 at 11:58 am

    @TP
    For whatever reason, the 2nd part of my long missive failed to post or has gone missing. Reposting:

    From: http://www.talmidi.co.il/htm/articles/articles2.htm
    What is Talmidaism?

    Put very simply, it is a modern term for the religion of the earliest Jewish followers of Jesus of Nazareth. It is synonymous with the ancient term, ‘the Way’, and for the Talmidi community it replaces the inaccurate and misleading academic term, ‘Jewish-Christianity’. Modern Talmidis see themselves as the inheritors of the historical faith of Yeshua`’s earliest Jewish followers, and of 1st and 2nd century ‘Jewish-Christianity’.

    The word ‘Talmidaism’ has nothing to do with the Talmud. The only connection between the two words is that they both come from the root verb talmad, to teach. To further distinguish it from ‘Talmudism’, the word is taken from the Aramaic talmida, rather than the Hebrew talmid. Both Hebrew and Aramaic words mean ‘follower’ or ‘disciple’. Talmidaism is therefore ‘the religion of followers (of YHVH)’.

    The modern Talmidi community consists of born-Jews and those of Jewish descent who would not be accepted by the mainstream Jewish community, as well as Jewish converts and ‘Godfearers’ – that is, Gentiles who follow Torah and Jewish customs and traditions, but have not converted.

    Talmidaism is not messianic; it neither teaches that Yeshua` of Nazareth was the messiah, nor does it believe in a ‘personal messiah’ who will come to save us (since YHVH, and YHVH alone, is our Saviour). It does however accept that one day God will place a descendent of David on the throne of Israel.

    Talmidaism emphasises the Jewish teachings of Yeshua` of Nazareth. It does not accept that he was in any way divine or the son of God; nor that he was born of a virgin, or died to save us from us sins. And we do not accept the authority of the teachings of Paul of Tarsus. In these respects we feel we are in keeping with the earliest Jewish followers of Yeshua`, who were lambasted by the early Church Fathers for their position on such subjects.

    Talmidaism emphasises the humble and compassionate practice of religion. Talmidis teach the unconditional love, mercy and forgiveness of God, and that human beings should seek to emulate God in that respect.

    Because we reject the Oral Law, some have said that we are just Karaites who believe that Yeshua` was a prophet. We would say there is more to it than that. Following the message of the Prophet Yeshua` means that our spiritual emphases are different to those of mainstream Judaism. Yeshua` said, ‘God is kind even to the ungrateful and the selfish; therefore be merciful, even as your heavenly Father is merciful.’ We therefore anchor our faith in God’s unfailing and merciful love and boundless compassion.

    Yeshua` said, ‘Blessed are the humble in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of God.’ We therefore emphasise spiritual humility, which means that we do not judge others, we give humane help even to our enemies (a humble spirit is not vengeful or proud), and we should try to do the most just and fairest thing, even though it might not be advantageous to us.

    This is not to say that mainstream Judaism does not value humility or see God as compassionate; rather for us, these come first, and everything else in our faith proceeds from them.

    Following the message of Yeshua` means that our view of holiness is different to that of mainstream Judaism. Rabbinical Judaism, being descended from Pharisaic Judaism, equates holiness as being separate in the sense of being apart. But Yeshua` said, ‘if you do good only to those who do good to you, what more are you doing than others? Don’t even Gentiles do the same?’ For us, holiness means being separate in the sense of being distinctive – not only in our culture, but also in our ethical and moral values, and the way in which we interact with others.

    In Orthodox Judaism, external piety is emphasised, but for a follower of Yeshua`, it is the intent of the heart which is more important. We encourage others to follow Torah, but we emphasise that it is the intent of the heart that is more important than the level of perfection to which the commandment is fulfilled
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    Talmidaism internalises Torah. A Follower of the Way is called to show by the life they live who their heavenly Father is, and more importantly what our God is like – to show the love, compassion, and merciful kindness of our God by the way we think and behave.

    We hold, at the core of our faith, that YHVH is love, compassion, mercy, and forgiveness, and our core mission is to play our part in helping God to bring His Kingdom to fulfilment.

    The general aura and ethos that Talmidaism tries to project is one of friendliness, openness and humilty, of helpfulness, kindness and a refusal to judge others. It is centred on the absolute trust and faith in God to love and care for us – and ultimately, to defend and protect us, and fulfil His promises.

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