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American Church Leaders Challenge Israel and Congress

Christians Step up to the Plate to Legally and Morally Challenge Continued U.S.  Aid to Israel due to Ongoing Human Rights  and Weapons Violations

 

       … by  Jim W. Dean, VT Editor

 

Are the Christians coming to the Rescue? – Finally?

Well the church folks have gotten out if front of everybody else, including the main line veterans orgs, think tanks, political parties, and our own legal community. Hurrah for them as they struck a blow against hypocrisy and the double standard red carpet given to Israel.

No mention in the letter to Congress below about Israel’s huge weapons of mass destruction programs, stockpiles and who they might be a threat to. But VT will do that.

Our declassified Intel has substantiated that Israel always had conventional military superiority over all neighboring countries. The WMD was for offensive purposes only.

Actually we could do a pincer movement on them. Violations of nuclear proliferation also trigger a cancellation of US aid. But that little item is dismissed simply through our not acknowledging that Israeli has had these. Iran should be so lucky.

It will be interesting to see how Congress reacts. Hearings have been called for, but the Congresscritters have honed their skills at putting on show hearings. The Lobby will provide them a special team for the great smoke and mirrors presentation to prove that Israel is on the verge of annihilation.

The WMD people might even walk out the door with more aid…such is the congressional corruption over all things Israel.

The large Presbyterian and Evangelical Lutheran denominations anchored the fifteen church leaders who signed the letter below, with the ever present Quakers, of course, bless their souls. Israel was quiet, deploying their skirmish line of Lobby groups. And what was their tactic? To play the victim of course and trot out the old cliches.

The Jewish Council for Public Affairs (this is cute) claimed that American aid to Israel was not unconditional as we had ‘shared values’ according to JCPA President Rabbi Steve Gutow. I would remind the good Rabbi that we did not use white phosphorus shells on Jewish neighborhoods here after the USS Liberty was attacked. 

And we do not do home demolitions of their dual citizens who engage in Israeli espionage here. Not one home has ever been bulldozed, not even Jonathan Pollards. Torturing Jewish children (for security reasons) has not been made legal by our Supreme Court.

Shared values? I don’t think so. And God help us if we even do as we will not deserve salvation then.

Rabbi Steve Gutow

The Rabbinical Assembly whined that they were not ‘consulted’,  Hebrew for ‘we did not give you our permission to do this’. They claimed the interfaith partnerships were violated as this as all done, heaven forbid, on the eve of Shabat, hinting that only Christian devils could do such a thing.

And worse, ‘Congress was not in session and we are in the middle of a general election campaign’. Oh those evil conniving Christians and their pre-Shabat/election pogrom.

I would ask the Rabbinical authority why they have not showed us how all the Israelis got out of the twin towers alive on 911. Not one died. Will they share the trick with the rest of us, for next (or how much it costs)…for interfaith solidarity?

They even whine ‘breach of trust’ by the Christians. As I was reading I was expecting claims of a Neo-holocaust in the works, but alas they did not go that far, yet.

But the best was the American Jewish Committee who was outraged that such a move would be taken when we were all staring down the barrel of Iran’s alleged nuclear gun, but one with nothing in the chamber, and having that dark cloud hanging over the whole world.  We call his ‘hype city’ in the Intel world.

The AJC used the word ‘attack’, yes…Rabbi Noam Marans, …”Christian leaders have chosen to mount another political attack on Israel.”  And he went further.

“When religious liberty and safety of Christians across the Middle East are threatened by the repercussions of the Arab Spring, these Christian leaders have chosen to initiate a polemic against Israel, a country that protects religious freedom and expression for Christians, Muslims and others.”

Yeshivas in Israel teach intense hatred for Christianity. Orthodox Jews spit when they pass a Christian cemetery and young students spit on the crosses of priests in public to show their contempt. Welcome to interfaith dialogue.

Good Gosh Rabbi, when was the last time you have heard of an American priest or pastor spitting on a Rabbi, having been taught to so such at the seminary?

Have you folks sponsored legislation in Israel to make it a hate crime for Rabbis there to spit on priests? I did not think so.

And how many nukes do the Arab Spring people have, and chemical and bio-weapons, and tanks, and F-16′s? How many cruise missile armed submarines to they have, how many Congressional votes in their pocket, and espionage assets in the Pentagon and National Security Council?

Forgive me Rabbi but I don’t buy the crocodile tears. We have all seen them too many times before.  More and more Americans are deeming you militant Israeli supporters a national security threat.

Many in our Intelligence community do, also. And they are working away at tearing down the protection racket you have set up here to prevent prosecutions. America will ‘not be removed from the sands of time’ by a bunch of disloyal dual citizens with only one loyalty.

But enough of me…time for the good Christians to speak, the ones with no nukes or death squads and only vote in one country’s elections. It will be a nice change of pace.

Dear Christian Zionists, read this and weep…and may you repent your sins. The best way to do that is redirecting your tithes to taking down the monster you have been supporting with the billions in contributions you have been sending to Israel. They have been used to disenfranchise the remaining Christians there. And may God have mercy on your souls for that.

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Dear Member of Congress,

We write to you as Christian leaders representing U.S. churches and religious organizations committed to seeking a just peace for Israelis and Palestinians. Our organizations have been deeply involved in this pursuit for decades, inspired by the call and promise of Jesus Christ who said, “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God.”

In response to our Christian call to be peacemakers, we have worked for decades to support both Israelis and Palestinians in their desire to live in peace and well-being. We have worked alongside our Palestinian Christian sisters and brothers to help build a peaceful and resilient Palestinian civil society by supporting hospitals, schools, clinics, and social service agencies.

These ministries include cooperative efforts with Israelis and Palestinians as well as with Jews, Muslims, and other neighbors here in the United States. Through our presence in the region, and regular visits to our partners there, we see first-hand the impacts of the conflict on both Palestinians and Israelis and hear from them directly about the reality of their lives.

Through this direct experience we have witnessed the pain and suffering of Israelis as a result of Palestinian actions and of Palestinians as a result of Israeli actions. In addition to the horror and loss of life from rocket attacks from Gaza and past suicide bombings, we have witnessed the broad impact that a sense of insecurity and fear has had on Israeli society.

We have also witnessed widespread Israeli human rights violations committed against Palestinians, including killing of civilians, home demolitions and forced displacement, and restrictions on Palestinian movement, among others.

We recognize that each party—Israeli and Palestinian—bears responsibilities for its actions and we therefore continue to stand against all violence regardless of its source. Our stand against violence is complemented by our commitment to the rights of all Israelis, as well as all Palestinians, to live in peace and security.

It is this experience and these commitments that lead us to write to you today to express our grave concern about the deteriorating conditions in Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories which threaten to lead the region further away from the realization of a just peace.

Unfortunately, unconditional U.S. military assistance to Israel has contributed to this deterioration, sustaining the conflict and undermining the long-term security interests of both Israelis and Palestinians. This is made clear in the most recent 2011 State Department Country Report on Human Rights Practices covering Israel and the Occupied Territories (1), which details widespread Israeli human rights violations committed against Palestinian civilians, many of which involve the misuse of U.S.-supplied weapons.

Accordingly, we urge an immediate investigation into possible violations by Israel of the U.S. Foreign Assistance Act and the U.S. Arms Export Control Act which respectively prohibit assistance to any country which engages in a consistent pattern of human rights violations and limit the use of U.S. weapons (2) to “internal security” or “legitimate self-defense.” (3) More broadly, we urge Congress to undertake careful scrutiny to ensure that our aid is not supporting actions by the government of Israel that undermine prospects for peace. We urge Congress to hold hearings to examine Israel’s compliance, and we request regular reporting on compliance and the withholding of military aid for non-compliance.

Examples of specific, systematic human rights violations related to U.S. military support are included as an annex to this letter.

In addition to specific rights violations, we see a troubling and consistent pattern of disregard by the government of Israel for U.S. policies that support a just and lasting peace. Specifically, repeated demands by the U.S. government that Israel halt all settlement activity have been ignored. Since 1967, every U.S. administration has decried Israeli settlements in the occupied Palestinian territories as obstacles to peace.

Despite this stance, Israel continues to expand its settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, claiming territory that under international law and U.S. policy should belong to a future Palestinian state. The Oslo peace process, which began in 1993, was publicly promoted as leading Israelis and Palestinians to a just peace based on a two-state solution.

Instead, since 1993, the number of Israeli settlers in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, has more than doubled. Rights violations resulting from Israeli settlement activity include separate and unequal legal systems for Palestinians and settlers, confiscation of Palestinian land and natural resources for the benefit of settlers, and violence by settlers against Palestinians.

According to the Israeli human rights group B’Tselem and the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs, there has been a dramatic rise in settler attacks against Palestinians this year (4). They report that these attacks are often intended to drive Palestinians from areas the settlers wish to take over, and that Israeli authorities have failed to take significant action to stop the violence or hold the perpetrators accountable. We believe that these actions directly undermine peace efforts and threaten, rather than support, Israel’s long-term security interests.

We want to be clear that we recognize that Israel faces real security threats and that it has both a right and a duty to protect both the state and its citizens. However, the measures that it uses to protect itself and its citizens, as in the case with any other nation, must conform to international humanitarian and human rights law.

As Christian leaders in the United States, it is our moral responsibility to question the continuation of unconditional U.S. financial assistance to the government of Israel. Realizing a just and lasting peace will require this accountability, as continued U.S. military assistance to Israel — offered without conditions or accountability — will only serve to sustain the status quo and Israel’s military occupation of the Palestinian territories.

We request, therefore, that Congress hold Israel accountable to these standards by making the disbursement of U.S. military assistance to Israel contingent on the Israeli government’s compliance with applicable U.S. laws and policies. As Israel is the single largest recipient of U.S. foreign aid since World War II, it is especially critical for Israel to comply with the specific U.S. laws that regulate the use of U.S.-supplied weapons.

We also encourage Congress to support inclusive, comprehensive, and robust regional diplomacy to secure a just and lasting peace that will benefit Israelis, Palestinians, and all the peoples of the region, and the world.

With respect and gratitude, we offer you our prayers.

Sincerely,

God Bless those signing this letter for washing some of the shame of Christian Zionism off the cross

Rev. Gradye Parsons
Stated Clerk of the General Assembly
Presbyterian Church (USA)Mark S. Hanson
Presiding Bishop
Evangelical Lutheran Church in America

Bishop Rosemarie Wenner
President, Council of Bishops
United Methodist Church

Peg Birk
Transitional General Secretary
National Council of Churches USA

Shan Cretin
General Secretary
American Friends Service Committee

J Ron Byler
Executive Director
Mennonite Central Committee U.S.

Alexander Patico
North American Secretary
Orthodox Peace Fellowship

Diane Randall
Executive Secretary
Friends Committee on National Legislation

Dr. A. Roy Medley
General Secretary
American Baptist Churches, U.S.A.

Christianity Under Fire – And Firing Back Finally

Rev. Geoffrey A. Black
General Minister and President
United Church of Christ

Rev. Dr. Sharon E. Watkins
General Minister and President
Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)

Rev. Julia Brown Karimu
President, Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), Division of Overseas Ministries
Co-Executive, Global Ministries (UCC and Disciples)

Rev. Dr. James A. Moos
Executive Minister, United Church of Christ, Wider Church Ministries
Co-Executive, Global Ministries (UCC and Disciples)

Kathy McKneely
Acting Director
Maryknoll Office for Global Concerns

Eli S. McCarthy, PhD
Justice and Peace Director
Conference of Major Superiors of Men (CMSM)

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Examples of specific, systematic human rights violations related to U.S. military support:

• Killings of civilians – At least 2,969 Palestinian civilians uninvolved in hostilities were killed by the Israeli military between December 29, 2000 and December 31, 2009. This includes at least 1,128 children under the age of 18.5 Many of these deaths are connected to weaponry the U.S. underwrites.

• Suppression of legitimate political expression and protest – U.S.-supplied tear gas has been used by Israel to systematically suppress political protests and dissent in the occupied Palestinian territories. This has led to the deaths of at least 5 Palestinians and the grave injury of many others, including two U.S. citizens.

• Home demolitions and forced displacement – According to the Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions, approximately 24,813 Palestinian homes in the occupied Palestinian territories have been destroyed since 1967. House demolitions in the West Bank in 2011 forcibly displaced nearly 1,100 Palestinians (over half of them children) from their homes, over 80% more than in 2010, according to the United Nations (UN) Office of the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (6).

• Use of prohibited weaponry in densely populated civilian areas – Israel has used both white phosphorus and flechette shells in Gaza and Lebanon in violation of international humanitarian law. During operation cast lead white phosphorus shells were fired against civilian targets including a UN compound, two hospitals, and private residences causing civilian deaths and injuries. Flechette shells have also been used repeatedly in Gaza since 2001, causing significant civilian deaths and casualties (7).

• Restricting Palestinian movement – Israeli-only roads and more than 500 roadblocks and checkpoints carve up the West Bank, making travel for Palestinians arduously slow or impossible (8). The Wall constructed by Israel in the West Bank deviates considerably from the 1967 lines, confiscating occupied Palestinian territory and water in the process, and severely restricting Palestinian movement. Since 2007 Israel has also maintained a comprehensive blockade on Gaza, restricting not only the movement of Palestinians into and out of Gaza, but also restricting the import and export of goods. The UN and International Committee of the Red Cross have both concluded that this blockade amounts to collective punishment (9), in contravention of the Fourth Geneva Convention.

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1 http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/190656.pdf

2 Weapons in this instance include “crowd control” items such as tear gas. The Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2012 (P.L. 112-74) which is included in the US Foreign Military Financing regulations stipulates that “not later than 90 days after enactment of this act and 6 months thereafter, the Secretary of State shall submit a report to the Committees on Appropriations detailing any crowd control items, including tear gas, made available with appropriated funds or through export licenses to foreign security forces that the Secretary of State has credible information have repeatedly used excessive force to repress peaceful, lawful, and organized dissent.”
3 While this letter focuses on US-Israel relations and the Israel-Palestine conflict, these are laws that we believe should be enforced in all instances regardless of location. All allegations regarding the misuse of US supplied arms should be investigated.
4 http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/07/11/v-print/155813/report-violence-against-palestinians.html For more information see also: http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/lambs-to-the-settlers-slaughter-screaming-and-unheard.premium-1.455937
5 Details available at http://www.weaponstoisrael.org/article.php?id=2940 and through original date from B’Tselem at www.btselem.org/statistics.
6 http://www.unocha.org/annualreport/2011/pse
7 http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/news/israeli-army-used-flechettes-against-gaza-civilians-20090127
8 http://www.ochaopt.org/documents/ocha_opt_MovementandAccess_FactSheet_September_2011.pdf
9 http://www.ochaopt.org/gazablockade/

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49 Comments for “American Church Leaders Challenge Israel and Congress”

  1. Henry FORD woke up with this website and decided to throw in his masterpiece as Ford’s contribution:
    http://www.biblestudysite.com/intjewford.htm

  2. Well said and true. No longer can the zionist state of israhell continue its whine of being a victim of the so called holohoax. It’s time for an open and honest discussion, one that dares to investigate the atrocities israhell has committed against its neighbors in the name of self defense. Zionist jews are the world’s threat to peace and future operations.
    The one major problem is that so many so called liberals who whine about human rights, fairness and justice, often clam up when it comes to the human rights violations committed in the name of judaism and israhell. They are silent. Afraid to incur the wrath of the biggest coward and bully of them all: Abe Foxman and the ADL. Well, screw Foxman and the ADL. It’s time to call them out for what they are: enforcers for zionism. The ADL, SPLC, NAACP all smack of communist underpinnings. Of course after all Marxist Communism was a zionist creation.
    The fact that these church leaders had the guts to say what needed to be said without fear of retaliation which will obviously come in the form of possible violence against them by the zionist sayanim operating in America, speaks volumes. There are plenty of traitors who willingly do israhell’s dirty work against their own countryman. Might I suggest they be treated as the traitors they are and given a traitor’s punishment.
    It is long past due for real Americans and for those who truly seek justice and peace in the middle east to call out the zionist mafia and go toe to toe with them. No more holding back. No more cringing at the thought of the ADL or SPLC coming at them in revenge. It’s time for a new American revolution against the worst form of tyranny, the tyranny of zionism.
    The time has come to kick their ass.

  3. Have a look at the site below – and scroll down the LEFT hand side margin to the bottom – where you will see the word ‘Appendix’. Then click on the word ‘Appendix’.

    http://www.catholicvoice.co.uk/pinay/

    It carefully records and lists all the individuals who took over Russia and it’s government in 1917 – after the jewish bolshevik coup d’etat. Those individuals then ordered the massed killing of 20 MILLION Russians who refused to renounce Christianity and ‘embrace’ their form of atheism. Don’t expect any less from the new breed now infecting and conquering the US government offices.

    Each individual has been given their origin and religious denomination. I will also post this on Jimmie Dean’s article about the Christian Leaders criticizing the israel entity.

  4. “We write to you as Christian leaders representing U.S. churches and religious organizations committed to seeking a just peace for Israelis and Palestinians.”

    A just peace would be giving back the Palestinians all the land taken by force (i.e. all land not legally purchased by Jews under the Ottoman Empire and British Mandate). The Ashkenazi Jews can live in enclaves in those areas, or go back to their homelands in Azerbaijan/Georgia. The Arab Jews will likely find themselves happier than they are now.

    • Well said even though purchasing land in Palestine (5.5% of it) does not mean you can set up a state on that land or there would be Jewish states dotted all over the world.

  5. Jim – I somehow feel that this short youtube clip needs to be in here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&hl=en-GB&v=dDZVxbrW7Ow

    Lets stay positive – God Bless to all.

  6. This article has restored my faith in the christian churches in USA.
    If only the so called christian churches in Europe would follow their example and pin the blame for decades of
    killings and lies where it belongs, on the shoulders of the Zionists.

  7. Thank you J.W. Dean. I run into something that sounds like Bush October surprise with the Evangelists.
    This being S. California we have many Latino. most Catholics, but I also keep running into Latino workers that belong to cult like churches with a strong Evangelical drive. As several have been investigated as Cult like with money involved the member work hard on seniors. Any way, of interest to me is when I found out that they are strongly anti-Obama voting for Romney. I am talking about Catholic Latino. Checking this out. The number of these “churches” is too high for Latino community.

  8. Encouraging sign and about time.

  9. Fascinating in that I do not see one Catholic Bishop’s name on this list. Is it that bad in the Catholic Church these days?

    • Charlotte NC Bill

      Bp Richard Williamson, SSPX doesn’t need to be on their list….he’s been saying the above and more for the last 40 years….

      • Agreed Bill. The Catholic Church became out of favour with the judaic monsters many years back – since when the mainstream media has been tasked with a campaign of attacking and smearing the Holy Church in every way it can. Believe it or not jews hate the Roman Catholic Church so much that they have even sent operatives to enter the Church as priests and posing as Christians. Once inside they can cause havoc and bring misdirection and disrepute.

        This example of single minded hatred was done once before during the reign of Ferdinand and Isabella of Spain – and was the real reason for the ‘Spanish Inquisition’ needed to root them out.

  10. Good will always conquer evil. Pray for the Church leaders involved – to give them fortitude and strength – and so that they can galvanize themselves with grace and the bravery needed to be instruments of God’s will on Earth.

    The Christian zionist leadership is a wicked abomination – designed to mislead and misdirect those that are easily beguiled. You only need to repeat the prayer that Christ gave us – the ‘OUR FATHER’ prayer in it’s proper form – to understand this.

  11. unfortunately this is not a big deal because just a cursory glance at these ‘Christian leaders’ shows they are mostly leftist, liberal ‘denominations’ (I mean, ‘National Council of Churches?’ come on. —- and these groups do not represent the vast majority of sincere Christians.

    and here is something VT & readers of VT NEED to understand without prejudice, and that is that MOST Bible-believing, God-fearing Christians are ALWAYS going to have a soft spot in their heart for Biblical Israel, and I would say that 90% of those Christians DO NOT KNOW the real difference between secular zionists and the normal everyday Jews that make up your average Israeli household. But those of us who love Jesus Christ and the God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob (Father, Son & Holy Spirit) – we also love Israel. But again, we love Biblical Israel, the sons & daughters of Abraham, etc. But that, at least for ME, is NO endorsement AT ALL for these murdering secular zionist-mossad types who have wrought so much blood & killing & terror, etc.

    So therein you have a tremendous predicament. God-fearing, Biblical Christians in America NEED to be taught the difference between ‘Biblical’ Israel and the zionist killers.

    • This “good Jews – bad Jews” or “good zionists – bad zionists” or “good Christians – bad Christians” argument if completely irrelevant.

      Israel is 100 percent stolen property, period. Their tactics have been many but the outcome is always the same, the gradual theft of Palestine and the slaughter or expulsion of its rightful inhabitants.

      Many so-called “Christians” are confused by basic moral concepts (thou salt not steal, thou shalt not kill, etc.) in their lust to defend the Old Testament, which is irreconcilable with the teachings of Christ, or common sense and decency for that matter.

      Get over it and admit you were played for fools. If you don’t, the Jews will continue to use and abuse you as well as Christ and his teachings. The sadistic lowlife enjoy it.

    • “come on. —- and these groups do not represent the vast majority of sincere Christians. ”

      A valid point, but we don’t apologize for not being in control of all of these Christian groups. Editorially I made the comment early in the article that the Presbyterians and Lutherans were the main anchor groups, and a salute to the Quakers who for hours per person pushing for peace beat everybody else.

      It is not an uncommon thing for when progress is made for some to point out that ‘well, you have not won yet’. No sh_t !!! Ah…we know that. All we are doing is keeping folks abreast of new developments so they can think about where to pitch in.

      For example, how do you think all of these groups would feel to start getting lots of thank you letters in? Or, would you send them a ‘you’re just wasting your time, they are too powerful, it’s too late in the game, save yourself letter’?

      I am trying to liaison with these folks to explore how we might help each other. Welcome to the trenches. This is how it is done, building as you go, getting stronger, so hopefully when you have an opening to make a big move you have the juice to do it.

      Fighting when you are understrength is something we have personal experience with here. When Gordon was doing constant ten day patrols in Nam the platoons were down to six, sometimes just five men. When the VC found out how small they were, they simply started hunting them with two dozen man teams.

      The only way the patrolling Marines survived, the 60% that did, was being able to out run them. When the VC got onto their tails our guys could double time for 20 minutes in the heat, something the VC could not do. That allowed them to get ahead of the VC and J-hook around to set up an ambush for them, where they got shot to pieces. Hot pursuit became not too hot after a while.

      When the VC switched to hunting them at night, the Marines used the balls to the wall tactic of holding fire until they were within rifle length before firing. Why? Because they could shoot them all quickly with the minimum about of bullets being used as running out of ammo on a ten day patrol was a death sentence.

      So we try to work smart by using our time as best we can. Especially for us older folks, our time is out ammo, and we know we have a limited supply.

    • Charlotte NC Bill

      “leftist” “liberal” “conservative” have really become out-dated, almost meaningless terms that do nothing but create arbitrary and false demarcation lines of dissent…

      The genuine, grass-roots populist so-called ” left of center” types and the genuinely populist “right of center ” types have more in common than they have real differences; they both know 9-11 was done by Mossad and it’s agents, assets on the ground and in country and allies in the US…

      They both want the fraudulent magical money machine-the privately owned central bank- dissolved…they’re both against so-called zero tariff “free” trade…they both think allowing millions of HI-B visa people into the country when so many skilled americans are out of work is crazy…

      The Establishment “left” and “right” are joined on all of the above issues…maintaining the fantastical version of 9-11…”free” trade…no mention of the Fed…directing dissent to controlled groups and individuals…etc..open borders…etc..

      • “The genuine, grass-roots populist so-called ” left of center” types and the genuinely populist “right of center ” types have more in common than they have real differences;”

        Amen here. As I so often try to tell both sides is that the road to victory is not in defeating the Left or the Right, as that game us just a smart diversion for the swindler kings now. We will never be able to marshal the manpower resources to clean the real bad guys out without enough folks on the Left and the Right joining forces.

        When that happens the bad guys will start killing us as that will be their last defense, to knock off the opposition leadership. They have plants and infiltrators on both sides, sleepers even, ready to be activated when any leadership begins to emerge with a good plan to take the bad guys out.

        If you think I am kidding, cross your fingers and hope that we figure out a way to get some prosecutions going, and seem how many bodies they begin dropping to discourage the effort. To be ready we just have to make sure that we have replacement leadership ready to do.

        The more people the bad guys kill, the more they will reveal themselves and the easier it will be to pull in the Johny come latelies. The lights in people’s heads come on at different stages of the game. You all have heard of the term ‘tipping point’. That is the goal, to get to the time where when they make one more mistake, that triggers the beginning of the end for them.

        • So many “lefties” I know are starting to realize the Democrats have been infiltrated, too, similar to what was happening toward the end of the Bush regime when real conservatives were starting to stand up to the neocons that had taken over the GOP.

          Now many are realizing that the neocons on the right and the Bolshevik “socialists” on the left are the SAME people, with the same agenda.

          The “tipping point” is close, I think. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out in the next few months, since so many know who controls both “candidates” and that they’re both completely compromised.

    • liberty: One does not need to be taught, one just does not need to be gullible fool who is easily scammed and cannot think for oneself.

    • LIBERTY 1776

      The problem with Christianity in America is two fold. One, 90% do not know that the so called Jews are neither Judah or Israel of the bible and the other part is that they as European/whites/Christians do not know that they are both physical/ethnic and spiritual (believers) Israel/Judah of the bible.

      A Little Judæan History

      So if the word translated “Jew” in the New Testament really means “Judæan”, then who exactly were “the Judæans”? Aren’t we just talking about the Israelites who lived in Judæa in the time of our Lord Jesus? Let’s h
      ave a look at some Judæan history.

      The fact is that the vast majority of the people in Palestine during the Lord Jesus’s day were not Israelites. They could not possibly have been Israelites. Of the entire nation of Jacob/Israel taken captive by the Assyrians and Babylonians (a conservative estimate is six million based on the number of fighting men) less than 50,000, ie less than one per cent, returned from captivity. They were the remnant of the house of Judah who returned from Babylon under Ezra and Nehemiah. Compare that to the whole nation of Edom (Idumea, NT) who were already living in Judæa when the tiny remnant of Judah returned, and who later CONVERTED TO JUDAISM under John Hyrcanus in 126 BC, well before the Lord Jesus was born. Never mind all the Canaanites, Amorites, Hittites, Samaritans and the rest who had taken over the land when the Israelites were removed. Here are some Biblical and other historical facts pertaining to what happened in Palestine just prior to and during the period between the Old and New Testaments:

      1. When the house of Israel and most of the house of Judah were removed from the land by the Assyrians, the latter brought all manner of foreign peoples into the northern territory of Samaria to possess it and occupy it:

      “And the king of Assyria brought men from Babylon, and from Cuthah, and from Ava, and from Hamath, and from Sepharvaim, and placed them in the cities of Samaria instead of the children of Israel: and they possessed Samaria, and dwelt in the cities thereof.” (II Kings 17:24)

      They intermarried with what few members of the house of Israel were left in the land (the berries on the uppermost branches etc, Isaiah 17:6) and became known as the Samaritans.

      2. When the remnant of the house of Judah were taken into Babylon, the Edomites went down into Judæa and took it:

      “After this [the Babylonian captivity of the remnant of the house of Judah] they [the Edomites] settled in southern Palestine [Judæa], and for more than four centuries continued to prosper.” (Smith’s Bible Dictionary, under “Edom, Idumaea or Idumea”)

      “The Edomites pressed into the now empty lands in the South of Judah [Judæa]” (International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, under “Edom; Edomites”)

      3. The entire nation of Edom converted to Judaism in 126 BC and became part of the kingdom or house of Judah:

      “… during the warlike rule of the Maccabees they [the Edomites] were again completely subdued, and even forced to conform to Jewish laws and rites, and submit to the government of Jewish prefects. The Edomites were now incorporated with the Jewish nation.” (Smith’s Bible Dictionary, under “Edom, Idumaea or Idumea”)

      “Hyrcanus took also Dora and Marissa, cities of Idumea, and subdued all the Idumeans; and permitted them to stay in that country, if they would circumcise their genitals, and make use of the laws of the Jews … they were hereafter no other than Jews.” (Judahite historian Flavius Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews, Book XIII, Chapter IX, sec. 1)

      4. On the conversion of the Edomites to Judaism, “Antipater the Idumean”, the Edomite governor, became procurator of Judæa, Galilee and Samaria. Through collusion with the Romans he consolidated his power and effectively usurped the Judahite throne by arranging for his son Herod the Great, followed by his grandson Herod Antipas, to become king of Judæa:

      “In 126 BC the country was subdued by John Hyrcanus, who compelled the people to become Jews and to submit to circumcision. Antipater, governor of Idumaea, was made procurator of Judæa, Samaria and Galilee by Julius Caesar. He paved the way to the throne for his son Herod the Great. With the fall of Judah under the Romans [70 A.D.], Idumaea disappears from history. (International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, under “Edom; Edomites”)

      Herod the Great, an Edomite, killed all of the Judahite Rabbis bar one and rebuilt the temple in Jerusalem to his own requirements and specifications, thus indicating that he took over the religious affairs of the nation as well as its throne (see what Josephus has to say about the ethnic background of the Pharisees and Sadducees later).

      So by the time the Lord Jesus arrived in Palestine the Edomites had seized the kingdom from the true Judahites, the descendants of the tiny remnant of Judahite exiles who had returned from Babylon. The Edomites had control of the land, the throne and the temple when the Lord Jesus was here. They were posing as true Israelites of the house of Judah, but the Lord Jesus knew that they were impostors. And He warns us about them in the book of Revelation:

      “…I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews Judahites, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.” (Revelation 2:9)

      “Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews Judahites, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.” (Revelation 3:9)

      The Lord Jesus is telling us that there are impostors posing as true Judahites, members of the tribe or house of Judah. Who are these verses talking about? In the Lord Jesus’s day they were the majority of those people referred to in the scriptures as “the Judæans”. Who are they today??? -Eli James

    • Liberty 1776

      The Word “Jew” Should Not Be In The Bible

      The word “Jew” is a modern word. It replaced the Middle English word “Iewe”, pronounced “yew”, in our Bibles from 1729 onwards. The word “Jew” did not, therefore, appear in the 1611 Edition of the King James Bible. [NOTE: if you have a King James Bible that claims to be the 1611 edition but has the word "Jew" in it then it is actually a 1769 revision of
      the 1611 edition.]

      Remember the problem we had with the word “gentile”? Well, we have a very similar problem here. Unlike the Middle English word “Iewe” used previously in our Bibles, the word “Jew” does NOT mean the same as the original Hebrew and Greek words used in the scriptures. The Middle English word “Iewe” has its origins in the Latin word “Iudaeum” from “Iudaeus”. The Latin “Iudaeus” simply means “Judæan”, ie “from the land of Judaea”. The word “Iudaeus” is a loan from the Aramaic word “Y’hūdāi”, from the Hebrew “Yhuwdiy”, meaning a “Judahite” or “a member of the tribe or house of Judah”. This linkage between the Aramaic and Latin words meaning “Judahite” and “Judæan” respectively is explained by the fact that Judaea had been the territory and natural homeland of the tribe of Judah from the time of King David, later becoming associated with the house of Judah after God divided Israel into two separate kingdoms. Now let’s see if the word “Iewe” was a good translation.

      The Hebrew word translated “Jew” in our modern Old Testaments is יְהוּדִי or “Yhuwdiy”. It specifically means a descendant of Judah, or a member of the tribe or house of Judah, ie a “Judahite”. It is never used in the scriptures of any member of the house of Israel. The word “Yhuwdiy” should, therefore, be translated “Judahite”. It should NOT be translated “Jew” which means a follower of the religion of Judaism. There was no such thing as Judaism in Palestine when the word “Yhuwdiy” is first used to describe members of the house of Judah:

      “This is not an uncommon impression and one finds it sometimes among Jews as well as Christians – that Judaism is the religion of the Hebrew Bible [Old Testament]. It is, of course, a fallacious impression … Judaism is not the religion of the Bible.” (Rabbi Ben Zion Bokser, “Judaism and the Christian Predicament”, page 59)

      “The return from Babylon, and the adoption of the Babylonian Talmud, mark the end of Hebrewism [the religion of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob] and the beginning of Judaism.” (Rabbi Stephen S. Wise, formerly Chief Rabbi of the United States)

      “Judaism is, specifically, the religion of a Jewish community living among Gentile peoples and is to be distinguished from the religion of ancient Israel.” (Funk & Wagnalls Standard Reference Encyclopedia, 1959, Volume 14)

      So the word “Yhuwdiy” as used in the Old Testament can have absolutely nothing to do with Judaism or Jews.

      The Greek word translated “Jew” in our modern New Testaments is Ἰουδαῖος or “Ioudaios”. It means a “Judæan”, ie any person, regardless of race, religion, colour or creed, who lives in or comes from Judæa. However, it is sometimes used in the New Testament in the Old Testament sense to refer to a “Judahite”. The context tells us which way to render it correctly. The word “Ioudaios” should, therefore, be translated “Judæan” or “Judahite”, depending on the context. -Eli James

      • Thanks for that Tyron

      • It is interesting that The Qur’an talks about the Bani Isra-eel or Children of Israel/Jacob. “O Children of Israel…” But the word Jew/yahudi is also used. Perhaps to show the difference between the two.
        According to Wikipedia The Quran makes forty-three specific references to “Bani Isrāʾīl” (meaning the Children Israel)

        ” The Arabic term yahud, denoting Jews, and “yahudi” occur eleven times and the verbal form hāda (meaning “to be a Jew/Jewish”) occurs ten times. According to Khalid Durán, the negative passages use Yahūd, while the positive references speak mainly of the Banī Isrā’īl. ”

        “Say, “O People of the Scripture, do not exceed limits in your religion beyond the truth and do not follow the inclinations of a people who had gone astray before and misled many and have strayed from the soundness of the way.”
        Cursed were those who disbelieved among the Children of Israel by the tongue of David and of Jesus, the son of Mary. That was because they disobeyed and [habitually] transgressed.
        They used not to prevent one another from wrongdoing that they did. How wretched was that which they were doing.” The Glorious Qur’an, The Table Spread, Chapter 5: verses 77-79

        • Wisdom Prevails

          If the Jews Aren’t Israel, Who Is?

          The answer to this question is what Christian Identity is all about. True Israel is the Caucasian people. Tracing the migrations of the Twelve Tribes into Europe is the beginning of Christian Identity.
          Knowing who we are makes all the difference in the world; and Bible prophecies about Israel, which never have been fulfilled by the Jewish people, finally begin to make sense.

          When we further add to tracing our roots and routes the prophetic record, we see that the Jews cannot possibly be Israel. Here is just a brief sampling of these prophecies:
          1. True Israel would become a Company of Nations.

          “A great nation and a company of nations.” Genesis 17:4,5,15,16; 18:18; 35:11; 46:2-3; 48:4,19. A nation is defined as a country inhabited by a certain group of people having specific laws and customs. Throughout history the Jews have lived within the national boundaries of other nations, preferring to live in ghettoes or other small groups where their rabbis can keep close tabs on them. From these ghettoes have arisen numerous secretive enclaves conspiring against the very thrones of the Davidic dynasties, which are also proof that the Anglo-Saxons are True Israel. Through this parasitic practice of establishing a secretive State Within a State, the Jews have been successful in stealing our nations from us. Marrano Spain is a perfect example. Britain was stolen away from the British people by the House of Rothschild; and now America has been stolen away from us by the Edomites of the Federal Reserve System and the Neocons. The State of Israeli is, in fact, the only nation the Jews have ever had; and even this nation was stolen from the Palestinian people and is parasitic in that it relies totally on outside funding for its existence. In short, the Jews have never had a nation of their own, including the one they presently are stealing from the Palestinian people.
          1.True Israel would be a mighty, seagoing people.

          Numbers 24:7; Deut. 33:19; Psalms 89:25; Isaiah 60:5. Virtually all of the Caucasian nations have had great navies. The Jews have NEVER been a seagoing people; and the current “navy” of the Israeli State does not compare to those of any of the Caucasian nations.
          1.True Israel would have a new language.

          Israel to have a new language, Isaiah 28:11. (The Jews have tried to preserve Hebrew – at least their corrupt version of it — to this day. This is part of their ongoing cloak of masquerade as Israel.) We Israelites have a new language: English.
          1.True Israel would forget its identity as the Covenant people.

          (NOTE: The Jews have an unbroken historical claim on the promises bestowed upon Abraham’s seed; thus, they never could have had the collective amnesia which Scripture says would befall Israel.) Isa. 29:10-12; 42:16,19,20; Hos. 2:1-8; Romans 11:7,8,25. Er, excuse me, Mr. and Mrs. Christian Israelite, would you please wake up to your true identity? It is essential that you know who you are if you want to be part of God’s Kingdom.
          1.Israel to be hidden because of its loss of identity.

          These prophecies are contained in Psa. 83:3; Isa. 49:2; Matthew 13:44. The Jews were never hidden. Indigenous populations (host countries) were always aware of their presence and their pretentious claim to being “Israel”. Throughout history, the Jews have made themselves so unwelcome that they have been expelled from virtually every nation that had the misfortune of letting them in. The Jews have always stuck out like a sore thumb.
          1.Israel to have a new covenant (a reference to the Last Supper Covenant)

          These prophecies are contained in Jer. 31:31-33 and Daniel, Chapter 12. The Jews deny that this prophecy was fulfilled by the Messiah. Hebrews 8:10-13; 9:15-17; Luke 1:77; 2:32; 22:20; John 11:49-52; Galatians 3:13 all confirm that True Israel accepted the Messiah at the First Advent. Judaism absolutely denies that Jesus Christ is the Messiah. The Jews still claim to adhere to the Old Covenant (Torah). Just witness their eye-for-an-eye treatment of the Palestinians as opposed to the Christian concept of forgiveness.
          1.Israel will remember its identity just before the last days.

          These prophecies are contained in Ezekiel 39:7,22-29, Gen. 48:5, 13-20 (Ephraim and Manasseh being the birthright tribes – Britain, America, Canada, and all of the English-speaking Israelites!) and Hosea 3:5. We True Israelites are returning to Yahweh and have rediscovered our Israelite heritage! These prophecies are highly significant for us today, especially since we are awakening to our true Identity at this very moment!
          1.Finally, the Heirs of the Covenants will be named after Abraham’s son, Isaac.

          “In Isaac shall they seed be called.” – Gen. 21:12.

          The Jews NEVER quote this prophetic verse because it is so obvious that they are NOT called by Isaac’s name! We Anglo-Saxon Caucasian Israelites, however, DO bear the name of Isaac.

          [To learn more about the True Identity of God’s chosen People, Israel, please go to my website, www . anglo-saxonisrael. com There you will find abundant proof that True Israel is the Caucasian people and that the Jews are impostors.]

          In addition, these Anglo-Saxon, Caucasian Israelites still retain a tradition of heraldry, being virtually identical with the coats of arms and family crests of the ancient Tribes of Israel.

          Of course, none of these things is true of the Jewish people. The reason why the Jews do not retain these True Israelite traditions is because they are not Israelites.

          The Bible clearly says that these Israelites, though “lost,” would one day be rediscovered. Having lost our Identity as Israel, we are rediscovering our Israelite roots, in these last days, at a phenomenal pace, as those of us in Christian Identity teach these irrefutable truths to an astonished world and a hateful Jewry. The Jews are doing everything they possibly can to prevent our research from reaching the mainstream Christian world; but their efforts will fail; because True Israel will be restored, and there is nothing that the Jews can do about it!

  12. who is moderating tonight ??????????????
    HELLOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! isn’t that annoying
    pain in the ass

    • duay khwaam nap theuu

      Please remember that whoever it is, his or her salary is ZERO – ZILTCH – NADA – RIEN.

      Go start your own blog.. Then you can be sure it’s done your way.

      Yes, it is annoying, but grownups try to deal with it.

    • Remember, This is a comment section, and not a chat room. Sometimes stuff flows through like chat room speed, but that is just because several people are online and getting emails of comments coming in. But when it gets bed time here on the East Coast…West Coast folks sometimes forget the time zone thing.

      Overall though, it works pretty well. We had to monitor because the spam was huge, 5000 a day with the filters getting 90%, leaving 500 for hand removal. Gordon use to spend three hours a day just on comments, which I eventually convinced him was a huge waste of his time, and reducing that to one hour would create two hours for radio and TV interviews. The cross promotion we have been getting for VT from that two hours has been fabulous.

  13. Nice, JD! Refreshing to feel everyone wiping the “sleep” out ‘ta their eyes. The day of reckoning is nigh, whether you’re a believer or a deceiver. In either case, you’ve done your best, I’m sure. It is all just a game, or something quite like one, but apologies wont bring your dead children back, unfortunately. We do get what we ask for and we ARE what we eat. It probably won’t be that bad. Unless, that is, you eat lots and lots of dead meat. You don’t, do you? Grin….

  14. Paul V. Sheridan

    Mr. Dean, thanks so much for this info. In terms of actual modern-day practices there is nothing “judeo” in any Christianity that I am familiar with.

    For example, according to Ms. Wasserman-Schultz stating the FACT, that-that Herzl-Balfour sewer is guilty of war crimes is now “hate speech” :

    http://freebeacon.com/dnc-rep-resigns-after-anti-israel-tirade/

    http://www.bizpacreview.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=news.details&ArticleId=747087&returnTo=jack-furnari-2

    http://mondoweiss.net/2012/07/evelyn-garcia-welcomes-a-debate-on-us-middle-east-policy-not-smears-and-misrepresentation-and-hate-mail.html

    Censoring the truth is what (fundamentally) characterizes Satan . . .

  15. Way too broad a statement. There are jerks, hustlers and sell outs the world over.

    During Klaus Barbie’s Nazi trial in France one of the interesting things that he said in his defense against torturing people to find resistance folks, was that they would run ads in the Sunday French paper offering bounties on partisans and resistance helpers, and on Monday the Gestapo headquarters would be mobbed. Many would be just trying to turn in someone they did not like purely for personal reasons.

    There are countless examples.

  16. duay khwaam nap theuu

    On first reading this article here, I searched to see what coverage this letter to Congress was getting so far. Not much… 6 hits

    jta.org/ news/ article/ 2012/ 10/ 09/ 3108806/ religious-leaders-call-on-congress-to-reevaulate-military-aid-to-isra el

    blogs.elca.org/ peacenotwalls/ files/ 2012/ 10/ Military-aid-to-Israel-2012c.pdf

    mondoweiss.net/ 2012/ 10/ roger-waters-says-israels-staggering-record-of-impunity-from-worlds-j udgment-is-due-to-elephant-in-the-room-the-lobby.html

    standfirminfaith.com/?/sf/page/29520

    thenakedfacts .blogspot.com

    niqnaq .wordpress.com

    ———————————–

    That’s it. New York Times, CNN etc. must have a meeting or wait for the memo or something.

    Meanwhile…

    Peter Hansen formerly the head of the UN Works and Relief Agency:
    The peace process that he once believed could bring justice– “I can only think of it as a cruel joke.” It has nothing to do with principle, but simple dealmaking between powers, and the UN has abandoned its own principles, norms and values merely to have a seat at the table.

    As for the huge UN presence in the occupied territories, the aid is a Bandaid on a cancer, and whenever Hansen tried to raise the necessity of addressing underlying political issues with the donor countries, he was told his views were not welcome.

    “I was not supposed to talk about anything except how to get truckloads delivered… The donor countries… like to think they have bought redemption.”

    Roger Waters, a juror for the Russell Tribunal and bassist for Pink Floyd:
    The “elephant in the room” is the unspoken cause of this long and unrelenting pattern of impunity, and that cause is “the Israel and Jewish lobby,” …

  17. I’m glad they sent the letter it took a little courage, although I don’t think the Israeli controlled congress critters will act upon the letter accept to tell their AIPAC bosses to expect even more money in a show of their unbreakable elegance to their Israeli masters.

    I was sure hoping to see a P.S. By the way we church people know those Israeli scumbags did 911.

  18. Charlotte NC Bill

    Bishop Richard Williamson, SSPX is the lone Catholic bishop that has consistantly told the truth about what these people are all about…The Americanist/American exceptionalist-no salvation outside the Republican Party/all I know about the world I get fm Fox “News”-type “catholics” don’t like him of course..Bp DeMallerais and Bp Galleretta, sspx are also very good..Bp Fellay is the weak link in the SSPX…a certain “Grimer Wormtongue” by the name of Max Krah seems to have gotten to him..

  19. Jim have you seen this … http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2012/10/10/urgent-update-and-notice-from-the-international-common-law-court-of-justice/ all need to see…..is there a connection here like maybe they are trying wash their hands of the “stain” well this “stain” is not coming off ANYBODY…….

  20. Thanks for the good news, Jim. It’s been a long day dealing with my neighbors who are slightly dumber than asphalt, so it’s good to know that maybe there is some hope that people do awaken, eventually. Made my day.

    A question: Is the addendum at the end of your piece (detailing Israeli transgressions of law) part of the original letter or was that a VT addition?

    Nice work, either way.

    • A question: Is the addendum at the end of your piece (detailing Israeli transgressions of law) part of the original letter or was that a VT addition?

      Everything in the block quotes is the letter. I just added the images. Our usual format is to put unedited outside material in block quotes. Rather than cut the letter in half, I used the whole thing as its an historical document. With a large group like this a lot of work went into the wording so I wanted you to have it all and to interpret however.

      • Thanks, I think the details of Israel’s crimes made the letter much stronger and I wanted to make sure I wasn’t getting too excited for naught…….

  21. Well, it seems to me that the US public is waking up, although maybe just sleep walking. I don’t know, but I like to keep hope alive. Of course Israel is a rogue state and needs to be taken to the woodshed.
    I can dream can’t I?

    Viva Palestina,
    Infidel

  22. duay khwaam nap theuu

    Shared values?

    SHARED VALUES?

    S H A R E D V A L U E S ? ? ?

    We did not use white phosphorus shells on Jewish neighborhoods here after the USS Liberty was attacked Israeli attacks killing 34 US seamen and wounding 171I.

    We do not do home demolitions of dual citizens who engage in Israeli espionage here.Not one home has ever been bulldozed, not even Jonathan Pollard’s.

    Torturing Jewish children has not been made legal by our Supreme Court.

    Shared values? Don’t you DARE let those words pass again. Ever.

    • duay khwaam nap theuu

      “wounding 171″ or 173, actually.

      http://www.usslibertyveterans.org/ — “ON JUNE 8, 1967, while patrolling in international waters in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea, USS Liberty (AGTR-5) was savagely attacked without warning or justification by air and naval forces of the state of Israel. Of a crew of 294 officers and men (including three civilians), the ship suffered thirty four (34) killed in action and one hundred seventy three (173) wounded in action. The ship itself, a Forty Million ($40,000,000) Dollar state of the art signals intelligence (SIGINT) platform, was so badly damaged that it never sailed on an operational mission again and was sold in 1970 for $101,666.66 as scrap. “

  23. well said, Jim. You don’t do cheap jibes, but neither do you pull your pinches. you tell it straight.

    and good news that some church leaders are taking down the CRITICISM OF ISRAEL FORBIDDEN signs. I think Gunter Grass has been influential in this respect, and perhaps Prof David Ray Griffin, whose relentless expose of 911 wickedness has shown him to be a man of integrity, faith, diligence, and with a sense of humour. As a distinguished theological scholar, the thinking end of the Christian spectrum can hardly igbore his splendid example.

    how the US has created 60 million “Christian” zionists remains at this date a mystery to me, though it is clearly a remarkable feat of brainwashing.

    let us hope, both for their sake and ours, they are all soon raptured, though to airlift 60 million people would have to be carefully organized.

    since no one but God knows the time or place, some people might be carrying implements like pitchforks, chain saws, cut throat razors, or even guns, items which, even with the best intentions, could, in a mid-air collision, seriously injure a fellow-rapturee. no one wants to begin eternal life with his arm in a sling, or a nasty scar. And rapture, whilst undoubtedly delicious, is liable to makeall of us a little less careful.

    i am using a friend’s computer at present, and the T-mobile ‘dongle’ has a content lock (removable on presentation of credit card details – i have not bothered), supposedly to protect children, but which in my usage seems to only block certain zio-sensitive sites, for example just a minute ago after googling “scofield, falwell funding” i was blocked from checking out a search result headed:
    “The Scofield Bible, Oxford Publishing and the House of Rothchild”
    so i am just left with the intriguing verbal summary:

    The Scofield Bible, Oxford Publishing and the House of Rothchild
    wakeupfromyourslumber.com/…/scofield-bible-oxford-publishing-a…
    7 Oct 2010 – The Scofield Bible was financed by the House of Rothchild with the sole purpose … Rothschild founded and funded the Zionist movement to further a New World …. Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell weave Scofield’s “Jews” into …

    curiously T-Mobile’s owners (via a series of daughter companies, e.g. Everything Everywhere in the UK) are Deutsche Telkom and France Telecom. DT has from 2009 expanded its operations in Israel, though this may be due mainly to their specialised knowledge being useful for satisfying the communications needs of the wives and girl friends (or boy friends) of the new elite generation of Israeli nuclear submariners.

    I note that DT’s CEO, Rene Obermann was an attendee at the (June 21-23 2011) 3rd Israeli Presidential Conference, a gathering which included such distinguished yet diverse luminaries as as Tony Blair, Henry Kissinger and Sarah Silvermann.

  24. although a great letter and one where every american should get behind….. the people it is comming from are NOT to be trusted. how much history do you need to see this…. this message needs to come from 100 million americans not a church or group that represents a small group of people working on their own agenda. just read histories about what the religions have done to the planet and the people…all equally lost in time and way out of touch with mainstream thinking of today. things are never what they seem ……..any aged person knows this to be true…….

    • We can’t control completely when people can figure this out. We can put material out when they are treading water and not much interested in reading. And then we can catch them after they have been saved.

      You work with the people that are available and try to reduce the learning curve for them. These folks did this when the Catholics didn’t, and the CZs for sure. It’s progress. Another group is forming to take on AIPAC, the Kario folks, criss crossing the country now setting up state orgs. It included ex-AIPAC people..and American Jews that went to the West Bank and were shocked at what they found.

      Netanyahu did more to discredit the Lobby in a month that we have in several years. So as the saying, goes, you never look a gift horse in the mouth, who is not asking for a payday loan, or wanting to take English lessons from your wife or daughter while you are at work.

      • michaelalexander

        Jim,
        A few of us went to a CZ mega-church here in san antonio last year and sat through an entire sermon from pasture (of shit) Hagee about how God, through revelations, told us that the antichrist is Ahmadinejad and Putin, and in order to fight the antichrist, we have to drop nuclear bombs on them..no joking, he went through a 2 hour lecture, pulling random parts of scripture to justify this argument. He carried on brainwashing thousands of people into believing God wants us to murder millions of innocent people…What would God make of a man like that? Pure Criminal. We’re all anticipating his return home to his brother and father, the late con artist Falwell and his eminence, Lucifer. REAL CHRISTIANS are an oasis in a desert these days. We do our best to unglue people’s minds from that “God said murder everyone else because they’re the antichrist” sort of people. Good to hear Jim.

      • Jim,

        You are right it is progress and we should not let the fact that so much of main stream Christianity is corrupted by Judaism/Zionism. These people found their voice and courage for once in a LONG AS- TIME, they are actually acting like Christ instructed them too. Having said that, one should always keep in mind that there is always the possibility of them playing a hegalian dialectic game. Let’s hope they found their balls in Christ again though and that this development is authentic….. :)

        • The have hijacked Christianity the way they have hijacked Judaism but thankfully not as intensely. Most civilized sensible people can see through these hucksters MO.

  25. Anna O.. is all over that Jimmie
    Is this letter some kind of “code” green light for israel to go into full offensive mode (because everyone is attacking them from all sides) yes it can get more “offensive,” obviously some kind of diversion …yes one more tactic to get israels rallied……”The Show Must Go On” ….sad case senario…

    Anna O
    October 9, 2012 – 8:01 am

    Hate to say it. But you know you are going to get screwed when they bring religion into it.

    govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr6566/text
    H.R. 6566: Mass Fatality Planning and Religious Considerations Act
    112th Congress, 2011–2012. Text as of Sep 28, 2012 (Introduced).
    To amend the Homeland Security Act of 2002 to require the Administrator of the Federal Emergency Management Agency to provide guidance and coordination for mass fatality planning, and for other purposes.
    SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
    This Act may be cited as the ‘Mass Fatality Planning and Religious Considerations Act’.

    SEC. 2. FINDINGS.
    Congress finds the following:

    (1) Emergency preparedness often plans for how to prepare and provide for survivors of a natural disaster, act of terrorism, or other man-made disaster, but fails to plan for how to prepare for and respond to mass fatalities that result from such an incident.

    (2) Funeral homes, cemeteries, and mortuaries could be overwhelmed should mass fatalities arise from a natural disaster, act of terrorism, or other man-made disaster.

    (3) Different religions have different customs surrounding death; for example, the Jewish and Muslim religions call for burial of the deceased not later than 48 hours after death.

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  16. VA Mandates Overtime to Increase Production of Compensation Claims Decisions
  17. Intel Drop: Thursday, May 16, 2013
  18. US Government Preemptively Gears-Up for Your Demise
  19. Take It From the Rabbi’s Mouth
  20. Dennis Bernstein interviews Gilad Atzmon – 5/13/13
  1. PAUL LEO FASO: Place Ellen Mariani in Google search and read the full charges filed in court years ago against the entire Bush Administration and you will have an idea of what this ...
  2. Tomer: Now that must have been a great act of courage when Shepard Ambellas "infliltrated a government cemetary compound" to investigate what our government plans for the dead. Did he get shot ...
  3. LC: How Amputee actors help make Boston Marathon Bombing Drill look real? *****************https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNsnCVuE2C4 Side by Side of Real & Fake Boston Bombing Photo - What These People Are Capable Of ***************https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGgopQENLUU
  4. Dublinmick: This is not surprising, as New York is no long a part of the United States, it is simply Tel Aviv north. The Bloomberg mafia has been stacking the ...
  5. Preston James, Ph.D: An excellent comment by someone who truly understand the situation better than 99.9999% of the people. Your points are spot on and timely. Thanks.



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