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Benghazi Massacre: Fox/Huffington CIA Tale Nonsense

AC 130 Gunships, Typically in Aviano, 1700 miles away if at all, providing radio hadn’t been jammed

Imaginary Planes, Imaginary CIA Armies, All Invented as Election Ploy

By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor (with Top US Intel Specialists)

A trained team of up to 120 special forces personnel with radio jammers and heavy weapons killed the US ambassador.  There were only two America CIA employees in Libya.  The news stories are all fabrications.

md lotteryThe killing of Ambassador Stephens in Benghazi has become a ghoulish election ploy played by Fox News, Huffington Post and others.  All are printing and broadcasting conjecture, total falsehood and the usual biased and unreliable garbage they are famous for.

RF Jammer Trucks, Gaddafi Had Dozens in Libya

Neither publication/network has qualified intelligence and/or military advisors.  To be former military and work for Fox is considered prostitution.

The ambush at Benghazi required careful coordination.  There was no Al Qaeda involvement and there has never been any history of Al Qaeda on the ground in Libya.  Moreover, intelligence insiders use the term “Al Qaeda” when looking for money from “congressional critters” too stupid to know that the CIA has always run “Al Qaeda” as a way of avoiding explaining why dozens of small organizations and even friendly intelligence groups will, for obscure reasons, attack American targets.

Fox reported that a large convoy of Libyan milita relieved the compound at 3AM but that there had been no aid until 4 AM:

They were killed by a mortar shell at 4 a.m. Libyan time, nearly seven hours  after the attack on the consulate began — a window that represented more than  enough time for the U.S. military to send back-up from nearby bases in Europe,  according to sources familiar with Special Operations. Four mortars were fired  at the annex. The first one struck outside the annex. Three more hit the  annex.

A motorcade of dozens of Libyan vehicles, some mounted with 50 caliber  machine guns, belonging to the February 17th Brigades, a Libyan militia which is  friendly to the U.S., finally showed up at the CIA annex at approximately 3 a.m.

Generously one can call this kind of reporting inconsitencies.  Either they are there or they aren’t, either it is 3am or 4am but not both.

Nothing is simple enough for congress and the American people, this is the belief.  When in doubt…lie.

The attack in Benghazi was coordinated with the broadcast of the Terry Jones/CATO Institute/Tea Party telethon worldwide.  Rioting broke out in Tripoli but not Benghazi.

Ambassador Stephens had a 6 man detail, former SEALS, all private contractors from L3 Communications, a British company contracted to supply diplomatic security.

The team used was one of the best in the world, equal to any normal task, and by normal, we mean “high risk.”  This is standard State Department policy and those used were not only top quality operators but went through months of specialized training at Blackwater’s facilities here in the US.

The second problem was tied to the Ambassador being, not in the Capitol, Tripoli, but in Benghazi to open a museum.  I am deeply suspicious of this and as the CATO Institute and State Department are “co-mingled,” it would have been easy for information on the movements of the ambassador and his team to have been telegraphed to the enemy forces who had been positioned in Benghazi.

The forces themselves were spotted at the Tripoli airport several days in advance.  Some may have entered from Egypt and some from Tunisia but 50 had come in from the UAE and were identified as Special Forces, UAE Special Forces, who had completed an extensive training program by retired US Special Forces and through the specialized American school for “irregular warfare,” located 45 miles outside Budapest, Hungary.

The attack itself involved pre-positioning two levels of blockade, one tying up any possible relief in Benghazi a kilometer away and another setting up a perimeter about 200 yards around the compound.  Streets were blocked and heavy weapons, RPGs, truck mounted anti-aircraft guns and large mortars were used.

Mortar fire was so accurate that the compound had to have been pretargeted in advance.  The first round hit the roof of the main building in the compound of 7 homes, all with minimal security.

The primary reason for no additional forces to have been available was the controversy during the civil war.  Anti-war activists and “anti-imperialists in the pay of the Gaddafi family along with David Welch of Bechtel Corporation and Israeli mercenaries and advisors, along with troops from across Africa, specialists from Serbia and Belarus and other nations, created something more than a “fog of war” but rather a “fog of truth.”

Paid “shills” working for Gaddafi continually warned of Americans coming into the country armed as an occupation force.  Thus, when the war ended, no armed Americans were brought in, only one small team and two CIA agents.

There were 3 additional armed local militia members providing security for the CIA who could have reached Stephens except for the blocked communications, the blocked roads and being outnumbered 30 to one.

The US does maintain 2 C130 gunships in the region.  These are slow moving transport aircraft stationed at times in Northern Sardinia but more often further away at Aviano in Italy, North of Venice.

These are Air Force planes, not Navy.

The gunships are extremely effective weapons and would have been of help had they been available, had they been called though all radio and telephone traffic was jammed as with the 1967 attack on the USS Liberty and had the personnel in need of support been stationary and secure with strobe markers to secure them from the 20mm, 40mm and 105mm weapons on the AC130.

Instead, we have been informed, a two pronged and highly coordinated attack drove the US group to a safe house, into vehicles and corralled them in a pre-positioned ambush where their vehicle was attacked by a “quad 50″ anti-aircraft gun mounted on the back of a truck.

Such a weapon could destroy a Bradley Armoured Personnel Carrier or shoot down an Apache attack helicopter.

What is clear is that help was not available, that America moved into Libya with a minimal presence so as to seem unaggressive, to please critics of President Obama’s foreign policy among Republicans in Congress.

Blame them.

 

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37 Comments for “Benghazi Massacre: Fox/Huffington CIA Tale Nonsense”

  1. Ghost,

    You posted on the 30th Oct while this was penned on 9- Oct.
    http://abcnews.go.com/International/attack-benghazi-consulate-unprecedented-state-department-official/story?id=17438780#.UJPvf2f0_a5

    As of Today many many of these pieces in word for word paragraphs excerpts…are showing up all over.

    Some even suggesting that Stevens was running some CIA op with these Turks…..something to do with Syria…

    The stench is here, there can be no doubt…..what that smell actually leads to is something yet to be told.

    Raptor

  2. Did Obama Withhold Cross-Border Authority?

    Please help me.

    I am trying as hard as I can to get out the word about cross-border authority (CBA).

    I just can’t believe reporters don’t know enough to ask the right questions! It’s infuriating.

    Libya, as far as standing down the rescue, is 100% Obama’s show, and nobody else’s. Only he can grant CBA, not Biden, not Panetta, not Dempsey, not Hillary, and certainly not Ham in Germany.

    The entire episode is explained perfectly inside the context of not granting CBA. The CIA QRF in Tripoli? No problem, send them on the local Tripoli station chief’s say-so. He merely informs up COC that he has done so. CCs them so to speak. “This is what I am doing.” Ditto if Predators were in country, no problem using them.

    But the big rescue air armada streaming toward Libya right away after the alarm got to Stuttgart and Africom? That has to stop. I believe at the 5pm meeting with Panetta and Biden in the Oval Office, he said, “No outside military intervention,” on the basis that the last report was the “lull” from the consulate, at about 1030 p.m. In Benghazi, when the attack appeared to be over and the situation stabilizing.

    (As a soft exception, Obama may have authorized sending an unarmed Predator from outside of Libya, but I am thinking the two Predators were already in-country, and hence available to use within “no CBA granted” rules.)

    “No outside military intervention” equals “no cross-border authority” and that constitutes “standing orders” until POTUS changes them. Nobody else can “un-decide” the POTUS decree. The rescue air-armada of C-17s, C-130s and SOF helos like MH-47 Chinooks and Pavehawks cannot proceed directly to Libya without CBA being granted, so instead they are all staged at Sigonella, Sicily.

    USN ships are in position to “lilypad” helos for long over-water flights. Airborne tankers are coming into position. SOF forces in Sigonella are going over their gear for different contingencies. Fuming all night as officers keep checking in with operational commanders. “Hold in place, no rescue yet. We can’t find the President, it sounds like,” say the colonels to the majors and captains. 100s of military must know about this. I keep waiting for the conclusive whistle-blowers to come forward BEFORE the election. After won’t matter, it will be for the historians.

    Panetta is falling on his sword for Obama with his absurd-on-its-face, “The military doesn’t do risky things” defense of no rescue. Panetta is destroying his future reputation entirely, to save Obama. The question is why? Loyalty?

    Petreaus was probably “used” in some way early, about the supposed CIA Intel link to the Mohammed video, and now he feels burned. So he conclusively said via his PAO, “The stand-down order did not come from CIA.”

    Well, what is higher than CIA? Only White House. Obama, nobody else. Petreaus is naming Obama without naming him.

    Now, as far as Obama / Huma Abedin / Valerie Jarrett etc actually wanting Ambassador Stevens dead, to terminate the end of the very dirty Libyan arms to Syrian AQ programs, I can’t speculate. Obama is not competent enough, I’m thinking.

    But for sure, the ambassador going to unsecure Benghazi on 9-11 of all days stinks to me of a setup. You can bet Stevens would have told the Turks, “No, 9-11 is not a good day for us,” and stayed in Tripoli behind many high and thick walls. For him to go to dangerous Benghazi on 9-11 means the Turks totally insisted, but why would they care about the meeting date, unless they were in on a “hit” as the Judas goat?

    Alternatively, ordering Stevens to meet the Turks in Benghazi on 9-11 may have come from down OUR chain of command. Stevens seems to have been wearing two hats as ambassador and CIA arms shipper. Moving between more-secure Tripoli, the Benghazi “consulate,” and the CIA “annex.” So orders to him might come down the State or the CIA commo channels, or both. I am unclear on his job title and true position, but either the CIA or State sends him final instructions. How this works with “dual-hatted” ambassadors, I haven’t a clue.

    But Stevens meeting the Turks at the unsecure Benghazi “consulate” on 9-11 stinks to me of a deliberate setup. The Turks left the meeting and probably flashed their headlights to the attack team commanders lurking in shadows. A coded text, a word on a phone, meaning, “The ambassador is there, with minimal security: proceed with the attack plan.”

    That is all pure speculation. What I know FOR SURE is that the big “stand down order” issue revolves around granting or withholding cross-border authority.

    Every SOF officer and ops officer all the way up has this drummed into his head. We can make Obama respond to this question, even if reporters must shout it at him while he’s doing storm cleanup photo ops. If the reporters KNOW enough to ask the quesion.

    That’s why I am shouting all over the internet about CBA.

    I can’t believe cross-border authority permission is not one of the top discussion points about Benghazi.

    That, and who “set him up” by sending him to Beghazi to meet the Turks on 9-11, with them leaving after dark.

    And of course, down the road, was the military rescue-in-progress turned back because Obama actually wanted to make sure the consulate was wiped out? Is that why the spooks at the annex were refused permission to travel the under one mile to intervene? That would connect it all together, but for now, the best focus is on Obama either granting or withholding cross-border authority for the rescue.

    Feel free to repost these musings of a long-ago SOF officer anywhere you please.

    • There are a few flaws.

      You are assuming that the “scuttlebutt” you are using as fact is intel. Big mistake.

      I went over this with Jim Hanke, who you know as senior,

      take for granted that all comms were jammed and that an SF officer, former employee, trained the group who did the assault.

      an LtC.

      with L3

      intel?

      I have intel.

  3. This looks more like Romney’s October Surprise by the day. Off subject, but is there any intel on the AP story “Carrier strike force commander is replaced”? “Rear Adm. Charles M. Gaouette is being sent back to the USS John C. Stennis’ home port at Bremerton, Washington state, in what the Navy called a temporary reassignment”. Is this the case of an insufficiently compliant commander being replaced?

    http://www.theday.com/article/20121028/NWS09/310289949/1019&town=

  4. What’s inconsistent about a relief force arriving at 3am but not defeating the attackers until atter 4am? The battle had already lasted more than 5 hours; what’s so incredible about it lasting another hour?

    I’m pretty sure it’s Obama that wants to “seem unaggressive” to the Arabs, not the Republicans in Congress.

  5. Gordon Duff
    “Your caller isn’t qualified to drive for the folks I talk to. Anyone who retires as an LT Col was either screwed out of a promotion…which standard in the Air Force or an office weenie.” I have a friend who is a retired air force Colonel and he has made same exact statement about anyone who was LT Col.

  6. I thing US is on the straight road to communism. Watch Mr. Putin knocking your doors one day.
    You rather prefer a Smooth Operator than the honest, experienced and hard working Gentleman who is proud to be American and cares about This Great Nation and the only country which can save the World

  7. Too many “regular info left out” lately. Question: “is it possible some one wanted the Ambassador death?
    Question: Murdock rape position has been all over but no one mention what his this “My Faith” he mentions
    as the source of his belief? Also is he related to Murdock of TV who is Jewish. Jews seldom mention their faith, now like Romney entering political issues.

  8. Make it simple for me. Assuming Ambassador Stevens is dead and was murdered, who could have given the order and for what reason? The involvement of American trained ‘Special Forces’ teams implies top level Administation or Pentagon approval. To what degree was the President involved? Why is the President’s narrative of this event so lame?Finally, what if Ambassador Stevens is not dead as implied by some of the comment above? What does it mean?

    • Looks like I got at least one “bite” on my question. As an afterthought, on mulling hypothetical “scenarios” at Benghazi, I was suddenly overcome by a lingering stench from the Been Laden debacle at Abbottabad, resplendent with an aroma of crash-diving Seals in roasted helicopters…Bingo! Nosferatu!! The UNDEAD!!!
      Then putting one and one together to make three, it further occurred to me that these mojo operators are certainly not above faking deaths to suit demands of certain scriptwriters to flesh out certain nefarious plots, however implausible they may eventually turn out to be. We already know about the so-called “funeral” of “Been” Laden. Been there, done that. So following that precedent, it didn’t seem such a stretch after all, that Stevens might have just gotten a similar “vanishing creme” treatment from whatever “undertaker” was available. Upon returning to my prior inquiries into the Stevens affair, imagine my shock when I stumbled on to this latest installment from Jim Stone, who it seems has been fishing around in his “ocean of bullsh!t” again. The inks not even dry on this yet, (and I haven’t even bothered to read it yet) but I just love coincidence, don’t you?-
      http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/

      • Would it surprise you to learn that Stevens is living it up (or should I say laying low) in a beach front bungalow somewhere next door to another script following Hollywood actor, Timothy McVeigh?

        Nice gig if you can get it…

  9. as per your sub-header “Imaginary Planes, Imaginary CIA Armies”……and perhaps “Imaginary” Ambassadors? I repeat my reply question from above, (which posted a day late)- When was the funeral?

    …”As a side note, odd as it is, has anyone here seen anything about a state funeral for “hero” Chris Stevens? A recent Google search turned up nothing that I could find. Felicity also noticed that odd fact. The two former Navy Seals had funerals and announcements of such, but what about the ambassador and the guy who was supposedly killed along with him?

    “In a nation which lets its grief hang out as no other, oddly, daily searches find no funeral announcements for Ambassador Stevens or U.S. Air Force veteran Sean Smith, with ten years as an information management officer in what has been since 2009, Hillary Clinton’s State Department.”

    “If there are, as one bereaved American father stated of his son: “throw away soldiers”, perhaps there are also “throw away” Ambassadors and their staff when things go wrong.” Global Research
    http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2012/09/24/cia-fingerprints-all-over-benghazi-innocence-psyop/

    Au contraire, mon frere?

    • WTF, whining to VT about lacking MSM coverage of Ambassador Stevens memorials? Right, the mainstream’s dedicated too little reflection on the loss of Ambassador Chris Stevens, but why pester VT with lacking search results?

      Chris Stevens Memorials
      http://www.sfcv.org/article/chris-stevens-memorials

      • Well whaddaya know, another of my “WTF’rs” turns up while I’m out. Who’s whining, epiglottis? I didn’t ask about memorials, much less memorial concerts, I asked ONE SIMPLE QUESTION, as follows-
        When was the farkin’ FUNERAL?……………………………….and NOW, who’s “lacking search results”?

        • I think I get the concern about the funeral (pardon the exasperation). As a diplomat of the United States perhaps protocols dictate Ambassador Stevens be buried with a funeral ceremony I’m not aware of? and maybe I’ve mistaken the receptions and memorials as historically verifiable conclusions of his life? but the fact champions of democracy were annihilated under questionable circumstances obscured by pop-story-lines (not to mention wild speculation) appears indisputable.

          Diplomats’ Bodies Return to U.S., and Libyan Guards Recount Deadly Riot
          http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/15/world/middleeast/ambassadors-body-back-in-us-libya-guards-recount-riot.html?pagewanted=all

          Chris Stevens Memorial: Hundreds Gather At City Hall For Slain Libyan Ambassador
          http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/17/chris-stevens-memorial_n_1974130.html

          • Thanks for getting back TO me and not AT me, JC. Unfortunately, memorial SERVICES, such as the one held in San Francisco on October 16th, or the one held on “arrival” at Andrews AFB, do not a FUNERAL make. Funerals generally consist of services at BURIALS, for which two of the supposed “former” Navy Seals involved were indeed held and reported on. However, no such FUNERAL service or BURIAL has occurred for AMBASSADOR Christopher Stevens since his hypothetical remains hypothetically arrived at Andrews AFB in a standard flag-dropped coffin on September 14th, over a month and a half ago. To hear the Stevens family tell it, another “SERVICE” will “take place sometime later this fall in Washington, D.C.” No mention of “FUNERAL” whatsoever, much less a STATE FUNERAL, and isn’t November getting to be a WHOLE LOT later now? You tell me. http://www.rememberingchrisstevens.com/
            P.S. Try not to send any dead flowers, OK?

  10. “broadcasting conjecture”

    With respects, I see nothing here to substantiate your allegations.

    • Hugh,
      I know the people who trained the group personally, actually can publish photos.
      I was notified of the airport entry and published it.
      My story is also consistent with the US government report… and all credible versions.

      The other story…is wild conspiracy theory from Fox News.

      You believe who you wish but Fox has no sources for their information.

      NONE.

      You did notice that, didn’t you, no sources other than Limbaugh and Beck.

      • “My story is also consistent with the US government report…”

        The Obama administration has built an “elite” Libyan fighting force of 500 or so supposedly trained in counterterrorism by American Special Operations just as they have in Pakistan and Yemen. Is this the group trained by people you know personally? Apparently these forces were established way before the assault that killed Stevens. IMO, they are all mercenaries employed simply to carry out the misguided, immoral and unconstitutional mandates of R2P.

        According to the NY Times, the proposed Libyan commando force springs from an unusual partnership between the State Department and the Pentagon. Last year, S of S Hillary Clinton and the defense secretary at the time, Robert Gates, agreed to pool resources from their departments in a fund approved by Congress to respond more quickly to emerging threats from Al Qaeda and other militants in places like Libya, Nigeria and Bangladesh. Yea, right.

        The US State Department is directly involved in these killings. Would you put it past the US government to assassinate their own ambassador as a way to usher in these commando groups?

        I’ll defer to your view, since you have eyewitness boots on the ground, but with just a little more discernment.

        BTW, I don’t watch Fox nor listen to ClearChannel unless I need a few laughs.

      • Gordon
        I am going back and forth challenging someone concerning the conclusions he reached from listening to other sources when I explained my conclusions were based on your article, because of your actionable intelligence and military background, for starters!
        His recent response was the following:
        There are some whose words are golden but this site is as much conjecture as any other for now .
        I’m waiting for word from someone I trust that will know the true story and suspect he will have the real dope very soon .
        What is very suspect to me is General Ham being demoted along with General Dunford within a minute of stating he was not going to stand down with helping Stevens . It’s stated that G. Ham was apprehended by G. Rodriguis (Govt words). Highly unusual in any circumstance . I can’t ever remember this happening in my life time in a situation even close to this .

        Would you help me with a response? I know that after Pearl Harbor, people were fired and demoted, unlike 9/11 where responsible party’s were Promoted by Bush and Cheney. But I don’t know about these Generals he is referring? I would appreciate any input, Thank you!

  11. I have not seen a single story on this so far about how shooting the natives is to be avoided in all embassy situations as the worst of the worst things to happen. Marine guards have empty guns all the time, and mobs are never fired on.

    There are countless US consulates and many other nations that could be taken down just as easily in similar circumstances. All it took was someone who wanted to do it. The report from the survivors is that when they were in the safe rooms, with jail bar doors, not a solid door…and the bad guys came in with diesel to light the place up…they did not fire on them. That had to be protocol, which of course they don’t want to broadcast to the world.

    If you look at all the photos there was nothing to taking the place. The main damage photo was of an RPG wall hole. If you look at the building you see zero bullet holes. No one was firing at the bad guys so they did not need to shoot.

    It seems that the folks inside were waiting for the Feb 17th folks to come to the rescue, not knowing that the attackers had taken care of that.

    We thought that low key would keep us off the radar. But someone who wanted to spotlight weakness found this lightly defended place and put a big team on it. The chaos of Libya made it the perfect ground. The place is such a mess that the FBI could not get in for over a week, and the locals could not even secure the place from looting.

  12. Charlotte NC Bill

    I still say we never should have ousted him in the first place…We’ve seen the pictures..the country has been trashed unnecessarily…It was ridiculous for Obama and Romney to speak as though we’ve done these people a huge favor by turning their country into almost an arab Somalia…If he was so bad: 1. Why did Mossad blow up the discotech in Germany and blame it on him…2. We know why Mossad blew up Pan Am 103 w/a suitcase bomb: they were trgeting 2 CIA agents who had initiated running heroin out of the Bekaa Valley in Lebanon-they didn’t like the prospect of the CIA developing a relationship with their only real enemies in that region..This according to S. Lindauer..and i believe her…then they pinned it on poor col Khadafi agn..Any real improvement has to happen organically w/o outside assistance otherwise the losers seethe ( justifiably ) for a very long time..

  13. Getting this information out to the brainless masses is the hard part.

    They are presently being bombarded with bullsh!t.

    If this is all true, and I am not saying that I doubt you, then it surely suggests that there is a vast difference between voting for that suckhole Romney or voting for Barack Obama, does it not ?

    RIP J. Christopher Stevens
    .

    • -BTW, before you say RIP Stevens, when was the funeral?
      http://www.destroythedarkness.com/forum/discussion/comment/9520#Comment_9520

      No funeral, no body. No body, no murder. I’ve looked high and low, and found an account of a funeral in New England for a Glen Doherty, one of the supposed “Seals”, that’s about it. Maybe that would explain why Hilarious Clinton had no qualms about taking “responsibility” for the “massacre” of Stevens, if he never really got whacked in the first place…
      Would anyone with any account whatsoever to the contrary please post it herewith, before we all drown in Jim Stone’s “ocean of bullsh!t”?

  14. Oil company fat cat killed outside a spaghetti house? Tell me the perps were driving a ’39 black Cadillac and maybe carrying violin cases?

    Just look at who gets the movie rights to this story and you’ve found the killers.

  15. Charlotte NC Bill

    It sure fits their m.o. “do unto others evil…then blame the other”

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